Let's talk about this.
>>157851068Yes. They have four World Cups. Something your country will never win again for another 60 years of hurt.
>>157851068el fútbol es once contra once y siempre gana alemania
>>157851068Eternal rebuild. Grateful to ever have been on top to begin with.
>>157851080We have 4 world cups, but we lost our country and will never get it back. Feels bad man.
>>157851068Okay. What do you want to talk about regarding them?
>>157851080no one cares about pre-var plumberball
what's all the fuss about?
>>157851068Any thoughts, anybody previously had about the German national team, are no longer valid. The country has changed beyond recognition. Different ethnicity, different mentality. Culturally they have become weak and without identity. They're not the same people, not the same team.
>>157851168feeling proud to be german is a bad thing, like here, all west countries with a recent fascist past are like this
>>157851194>feeling proud to be german is a bad thingYep. Its a theme across europe and the uk. Its been drummed into generation after generation.
>>157851068Even if you only count Worlds and Euros after the reunification, we're more successful than England kek. Only one country in Europe is getting dangerously close and that's Spain
>>157851068so fucking back
>>157851128post VARsinso world cups are the ones that shouldn't count.
>>157851068Klopp nominated some very strange players, but many people are kind of hyped. Impressive that this is even possible after the last 10 yearsAs of now, we have no reason to feel optimistic, though. Mentality remains a big factor, and I don’t trust a random assortment of ngubus to measure up to the historic standard Our talent development as a whole is lacking. But maybe the very worst is already behind us