https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7049721/2026/09/25/manchester-city-charges-verdict-premier-league/
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>>157892359RING RING RING
>City appeal>It gets drawn out for a few more years>when it's finally time for a punishment they get a 10 point deduction and a two window transfer banAnyone expecting real consequences is delusional
>>157892365The charges only apply to years before 2019.
>MINUS TEN POINTS TO EVERTON
>The premier is a corrupt money laundering league
>>157892359Realistically the only punishment they will get is a points deductions:>Limited guilty verdict if successful on appeal: 15-30 points applicable to the 26/27 season or the 27/28 season>Large majority verdict if apepal is unsuccessful: 40-60 points this season or next (this is most likely but i'll estimate 55 points)>Almost everything proven: 60-80+ points relegation pretty much guaranteed
>>157892365I hate that stupid lego-head freak
>>157892419>The charges only apply to years before 2019.You're mad if you think there aren't ramifications for seasons after that. They signed players in that period who played on for years. Liverpool dicked out of league titles as well. Kompany only even has a career thanks to City's cheating.
>>157892359Are you telling me something happened?
>>157892561Bundesliga about to sue the Premier League
>>157892564Nothing happened, yet
>>157892561there will be no ramifications for anything that happened post 2017, that would be highly illegal because none of the charges are for that period
They'll still finish above Spurs
>>157892564stand by for more announcements
Do we know the punishment yet?
>>157892588Legally no but there blatantly are ramifications for City's success past that era you mongoloid, which was blatantly what I meant.
Guilty on 114 charges, the one not found guilty will be the "big" one
>>157892561relegated teams can argue they shouldn't have been sent down due to results against city etc. it's going to be very messy
>>157892600The charges are officially at 130. It was 115 then 15 additional were added after City refused to send over any paperwork (all the whole briefing in the press they were helping at every stage).
>£10.000 fine and a retroactive point deduction for some season that has them retain the title anyway
>>157892597doesn't really matter, city are too rich and powerful, literally owned by a state, and the charges haven't been confirmed by PL or city yet and 114/115 guilty makes zero sense because there are 130 total charges, I don't think the story is right
it's taken 7 years since first being announced to get to this point, this isn't just going to be a slap on the wrist. In that time multiple clubs have been heavily fined, deducted points for a fraction of the charges. City aren't some titan of the game they're an abu dhabi skin suit
stefan borson said they're utterly fucked and an appeal will be likely meritless
>>157892359PANNICK STATIONS
nothing will happena token payment at best
>>157892640
If this gets brushed off with a fine and a transfer ban it'll mean quite a large number of paying customers turning their back on premier league football in this country
(((ornstein))) risking his credibility here with the PL not even releasing a statement
>>157892659It's nothing to do with the PL, it's the independent panel who have reached their conclusion.
>>157892659don't post if you're going to be this poorly informed
>>157892359Here's hoping that those Oasis shows at the Ethiad next summer will end up being an unofficial wake for Manchester Shitty Football Club
kek the absolute state of the (((PL)))LIGUE 1 BVLLS WE UP
>>157892667the PL will be the ones releasing the verdict, they are the ones pushing the charges
TWENTY TWO TWENTY TWO MAN UTD
>>157892675oasis returns to how they were in the 90scity returns to how they were in the 90skek
>>157892419Everything City has right now is built on the foundation of those years
Oh no. Whatever will we do when we get a £20m fine (reduced to £8m on appeal) and a two window transfer ban (reduced to 6 months on appeal). We're winning the Quad this season and you can't stop us. This is just the PL panicking that we're going to dominate for another decade with Anderson, Bouaddi and Enzo. LOL.
>>157892567>Bundesliga about to sue the Premier LeagueHuh?
>>157892659BBC reporting it now.
>Brent is on holidayHahahahahaha he can't do his videos. Bye bye tens of thousands hahaha.>>157892419>cheat>buy good players>good players win you games>winning games wins you trophies>your trophies won by players you cheated to buy now attract other people to your club>you cheat to buy those>rinse and repeat>suddenly get caught and stop 'cheating'>you've now had years upon years of success because you've spent money via cheating, gained success via cheating and now have £500m sponsorships because you are a 'dominant force'You're such a mong.
>>157892452kek
>>157892704only based on the athletic source, nothing official
>>157892718Ornstein's ex-BBC, he will have shitloads of contacts.
>NOOOO YOU CANT HECKIN BUY PLAYERS NOOO YOU JUST CANT DO THAT OKAY?fuck timmy gon do? A fine and a 1 transfer window ban? LMAOOOOO just put the trophies in the bag lil nigga
*Won PL in your path*
>>157892738*wins a PL with the worst United team ever in your path*
>Manchester City deny wrongdoing and insist they are innocent of all of these chargesthey are leaving it pretty late to prove this
Is that why City rushed to buy players?Makes sense why Haaland has a release clause too then if they knew
>Simon Jordan keeps mentioning 'the appeal process'I thought the whole point of this was there was no CAS option?
>>157892763At this stage there are more people who believe epstein killed himself than believe these fuckers
>>157892759Retroactive Mourinho PL
>>157892774There isnt. This whole process is the appeal already. Once its done and verdict given its over.
It’s AGUEROOOver
>>157892706>Arsenal fans seething because the titles stripped are only going to Liverpool and Spurs
>114 of 115 chargesGenuinely how is that even possible?
>>157892798Well, one could argue that all post cheating era trophies are null and void as well. I don't care, but to claim that City are not in the position they are due to a foundation of objective and widespread long term cheating is false. If City didn't cheat then they probably would not be where they are now. They cheated, so you have to apply logic to that they won't be able to compete as well as they have. There was a reason they spent huge sums this window, because if they get a window ban (they won't get any major punishment) they have quality players to cover it.Furthermore, Spurs getting a title given to them because of this would be fucking hilarious. Liverpool at least won titles off their own back.
>>157892691screenshotting this for when they throw the book at Shitty
>All of City's achievements will now be removed or heavily asteriskedHOWLING
>>157892801the 115th charge was defrauding the telecom company but they were able to find the phone bill receipts
>>157892856said who?
>>157892359Oh no no no no no
>>157892856Now?
>>157892365nope he'd only get 1
>>157892862Said me
>>157892856guard of honour for every affected visiting team to etihad this season where city players symbolically hand over the medals for that season as part of the punishment
>>157892359 Every player that has played under pep guardiola has taken performance enhancing drugs.Spanish authorities’ investigations uncovered a shockingly wide doping network around Eufemiano Fuentes. The evidence implicated most of Europe’s leading cyclists, but people weren’t overly shocked at the confirmation of something that most suspected anyway.The most compelling evidence produced by Operacion Puerto suggested that it wasn’t just cyclists but footballers who were “treated” by Fuentes. This was of course around the time when Spanish teams and athletes had started to dominate their respective fields. Fuentes has admitted in the past he worked with Guardiola. He is also alleged to have said “If I would talk, the Spanish football team would be stripped of the 2010 World Cup”With the nandrolone (an anabolic steroid) scandals of the early 2000s, where multiple bans were handed down to Guardiola. Guardiola was playing at Brescia at the time, where his club doctor was Ramon Segura – the same Segura who worked for Pep during his highly successful spell managing Barcelona.3 doctors who worked with Lance Armstrong’s US Postal cycling team received lifetime bans from sport for providing athletes with EPO, blood transfusions andmasking agents. One of cycling’s most famous ‘doping doctors’, Luis del Moral is also working with Guardiola under the guise of “medical advisor”. FC Barcelona haven’t made a statement on del Moral’s ban, which prohibits him from working in any sport which has signed up to the WADA code of conduct. It would be interesting to hear why they employed del Moral and what his specific role was within the team
DSL?
lol and dare i say lmao
Weird, their sponsors seemed so legit
QUICK, HIRE SOME MORE INFLUENCERS, CONTROL THE NARRATIVE
>>157892452lel
• 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.• 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.• 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.• 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.• 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
>>157892359Pep knew and bounced
>>157892798Huh?PL titles:Man Utd - 2Liverpool: 2Arsenal: 1Spurs: 1
Championship? I didn't say i'd send you to the Championship. I'm going to send you to the National League
Surely all their trophies will get voided and they will get relegated or have a MASSIVE points reduction.Right? right?
Remember the PL cannot relegate City into Championship because that isn't within the rules. The only way they can do it is my 'all but relegate them' with a 100pt deduction or w/e.
>>157893135A fat fine, a ban on transfers for a season and a slap on the wrist. FAGsenal fans will be dissapointed
>>157893126kek
>we have a right to see your books>no you dontTimes 115 None of these claims say they actually forged papers and hidden salaries 8mill fine for failing to comply case closed
>>157893170If that was all, then a lot more clubs would attempt it. It's quite cheap for 6 PLs etc.
>>157893195>fagsenal swede already seethinglmaooo going to be hysterical when the punishment drops (in 2 years) and Its just a fine with a ban on transfers for a season AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHJust put the trophies in the bag lil nigga
>>157893231Everton got points deduction for one or two charges. City will get the book thrown at them, whether you like it or not, Karim
>>15789324910 points for 1, 2 points for the other
Now back to your containment thread somali wog
Burnley got £40m because Everton broke rules and burnley got relegated.United, liverpool, arsenal and spurs all filed legal notices in 2024 to city.They can now all sue for £100m+ each for the lost revenue due to missing out on CL, winning league etc
>>157893188That's not it at all, anon. At least 12 of the charges are for failing to adhere to FFP rules and PSR rules. Everton got a 12pt deduction for breaking two of those. So, City have x6 (SIX) times as many charges. So that should be 72pt deduction, if we're being 'fair and equal'. They then got 35 charges for failing to actually comply with the investigation. So they knew they were cheating and refused to admit it. The rest being their failure to 'show us your books' means they were hiding something and if you think scores of charges being found guilty will result in a fine, again, you're retarded.If nothing comes of this, there will be riots. So I suspect a 40pt deduction (appealed to 12pts) and £50m fine (appealed to £15m) and 5 year transfer ban (appealed to 18 months with rest suspended). That keeps City in the PL and they can claim they were 'hard on cheaters'.>>157893231Mate, Everton got a 12pt deduction for two charges. City have 114. If you think it's going to be a small points deduction, you're retarded. Nobody in the footballing world would accept that.
>>157893287>be retard>get called out for being a retard>seethe about arsenalgive your head a wobble or fuck off to their containment thread you boring cunt.
>>157892359Nothing ever happens.
I'd throw the book at them 100 point deduction spread out over 5 years
>>157892359I know most people wont care as they aren't in finance. But im interested to see what happens to whoever audited their accounts between 2012-2018, because whoever it was clearly was either bought off or incredibly incompetent
tik tok doyers
>>157892419Sunderland 2014 EFL cup winners CAM ONNNNN
>give your head a wobble or fuck off to their containment thread you boring cunt.malding
>>157892972has he post lately? I haven seen him in years
>>157893287
Why don’t you dumb europoor retards just make a salary cap system.>Noooooooo they spent more than us!!!!!!!>well you spent more than that championship team that just came up>But I’m allowed to spend more than them!!!! City shouldnt be allowed to spend more than me!!!!!
>>157893338Nope. If we only apply the period they cheated (09-18) and assumed runners up got the trophies instead....Manchester United: +2 Premier League titlesLiverpool: +1 Premier League +1 League CupStoke City: +1 FA CupSunderland: +1 League CupArsenal: +1 League CupChelsea: +2 Community Shields
>>157892419When are they investigating the years after, bros?
>>157893358Because football is played by over 100 countries unlike American sports that operate within a closed system in 1 country.If PL makes a salary cap then players just start to leave for another league
>>157892359
>>157893325This. You guys are like children
>>157893358it's not so much about spending more than someone else, it's that they've fucked with the numbers by carrying out a shit load of off shore payments to make it look like they were only paying their players a fraction of what they were actually getting
>>157893352i'm not the one seething about a shite club in a thread about city, they have an entire general for you to shitpost in, freak.
>>157893309Everton never done nothing for the EPL except embarrass them. City gone out and won them prestige some prestige and was one of the top teams as the EPL kept getting more and more money. You argueing like Barca and Madrid would get treat like Levante, they won’t
>>157893376That's what I'm saying
>>157893394The difference is the PL don't want City on top because it's bad for business.It looks bad seeing them at the top in front of half empty stadiums with no culture.The likes of United, Liverpool bring way more eyes to the product
>>157893402Yeah I was agreeing with you, I dunno why I wrote 'nope'. I meant 'yep'. Sorry lad.
>>157893376The knockout format cups won't be awarded to runner ups. Any team knocked out by City en route to the finals could argue they deserve it.
>i'm not the one seething about a shite club in a thread about city, they have an entire general for you to shitpost in, freakfuming
>>157893427I now remember Swansea v Man City which had a dodgy offside goal for Man City
>>157893380Who gives a shit about those other league. There are like 5 that matter and maybe another 5 that even get into champions and Europa spots. They won’t do it cus of teams like Bayern and Real/Barca that Hogging everything and have been for decades
>>157893427Guess you gotta strip the trophy then and say nobody won it that year.
>>157893430>he's BUBBLING so much he won't even reply any morehahahaha. watch, watch him do it again because his autism compels him.
>>157893442>all those trophies with engraved score marks through Manchester City's nameslel
>>157892359NOTHINGWILLHAPPEN
Reposting from the other thread on this, but say hello to Manchester City's new opposition in the 10th tier of English football!
WHERE IS DSL? HE'S NOT PICKING UP MY PHONE CALLS
desu a fair punishment is stripping them of the titles and leaving them null and void, then maybe some kind of transfer ban. a fine does nothing to an oil statei know in italy when juventus got caught cheating they gave the titles to whoever finished 2nd, but imo a blank title serves better as a record of what they did
i know its reddit but if youre in for some peak delusion check this outhttps://www.reddit.com/r/MCFC/comments/1wpwoh8/ornstein_manchester_city_found_guilty_on_almost/this is like 2016 reddit tier denial of reality and wishful thinking
>>157893434>190 exposing himself
>>157893498Seems comfy
>>157893517Juventus got effectively stripped of two titles and relagated to Serie B with a 30 point penalty in their first season there (reduced on appeal to 9, which allowed them to get promoted again in the following season).
>>he's BUBBLING so much he won't even reply any moreabsolute melty. Now imagine when city gets a slap on the wrist HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
United have won 2 league titles since Fergie retired
>>157893507he moved to france
>>157893522Who? I just remember it because they would have failed in their domestic quadruple bid without it.
>>157892365Nope, the league title will be void, there will be no winners for any seasons they get stripped of. This is how it works for pretty much every league sport.You can't untangle the influence of how various teams were damaged to different degrees by City. wins, losses, injuries, red cards and yellow card totting up etc.
>>157893616I think the charges apply only to the year Mou finished 2nd
>>157893622DSL turned sideways kek
>>157893089>Imagine fucking Spurs getting a PL title thanks to the cheating scum of ShittyBest timeline desu
do you even celebrate a title you won in 2nd years ago
>>157893695would i? nowould scousers and gooners? yes
>>157893695not in the same way as if you won one this season, but its like if the guy who defrauded you gets put in jail and the money taken from him. even if you dont get it back you feel satisfied that justice was done
>>157892706This is why black people need reperations
>>157892653I hate city customers so fucking much.
Fuck me almost replied to a burgerWhy are they even in football threads?
>>157893380They could easily make a salary cap that is based on what the richest clubs want to spend, but they won't because that would mean teams like Newcastle and Villa would be allowed to spend money and we can't have that.
>Could affected clubs claim compensation from City?>Earlier this year, Everton were told they must pay Burnley £35m over the impact of a breach of the Premier League's financial rules.>The case - heard by a Premier League commission - relates to the 2021-22 season, when Everton were found to have broken PSR regulations over a three-year period.>Burnley argued the breach impacted their chances of staying in the Premier League, and sought compensation for the losses associated with being relegated.>The Clarets were awarded £26m in damages and a further £9m in interest.>Clubs who had their league positions impacted by City's offences could potentially claim a loss of chance to win potential honours.>These would need to be individually heard by an independent commission.Holy shit city could get absolutely screwed even if they get a slap on the wrist
>>157893582Will the PL do the same or is UAE involvement too big in UK?
>>157893695Ask Moroccans
>first game after international break is Liverpool vs City at anfield LOL theyre gonna get so much shit
The number one lesson to be learned from this is that the powers that be will NEVER again allow a challenger to try and replace the elite redshirt clubs (Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool) at the top of English football.They invented a political excuse to destroy Chelsea by removing Abramovich, are going to drop a nuclear bomb on Man City over this, and the rules they have set in place ensure with 100% certainty that any other "new money" teams like Newcastle or Aston Villa will never be able to break into the title-winners club like City and Chelsea did in the 2000s and 2010s.We will look back on this as the moment when England officially became a league akin to Spain or Scotland, where you simply have two or three teams (in this case Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool) who are the only ones with the means to ever win titles, and every other club are merely also-rans.Is this really what neutral fans wanted?
The EFL should refuse to accept them. Not our problem.
>>157893487At least we won’t have to hear city customers claim they’re still technically not guilty of anything anymore
>>157893885Rick Parry will be bribed
>>157893884Ah yes poor little city just fabricated financial statements, hid cash payments and then refused to comply with investigation The city customer narrative is pathetic, I hope they're at least paying you for this shit
The Premier League is the UK's golden goose, allowing some tin pot middle eastern oil state to turn it into a one man band is simply unacceptable. This state run joke otherwise known as Manchester City will be destroyed for the greater good
>0 (zero) tweetsthis speaks volumes
>>157893914I don't support Man City. I support Chelsea actually.I don't really care about the facts of what rules were broken, because I believe the whole rules were a sham to begin with. They were invented to ensure the traditional big clubs stay big, and smaller clubs stay small. They were a reactionary attempt to stop what Abramovich did starting in 2003 from happening again.You can be against "oil money" if you like but the facts are that without that money being invested into the game, we would be looking back at 30+ years of nothing but Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool winning titles. Do not bring up Leicester because they, too, won their title in 2016 due to foreign investment.You have to understand that if you want to destroy clubs like City and Chelsea then the end result is England becoming a totally non-competitive league where the rich get richer indefinitely and nobody can ever again earn a seat at the top table.
Lol remember UAE threatened sanctions against UK if they found City guilty.I can imagine Starmer would have knelt, but Burnham is too much of a footy fan and everton got fucked too hard for him to help city
>>157893914Some cunt called into bbc claiming their happy memories are tainted and that city fans are victims of this just as much as fans of other clubs kek
>>157893914yes, yes, Newcastle and Aston Villa SHOULD be forced to buy each others' homegrown players to protect the hegemony of the top clubswe simply CANNOT have Brummies playing for Villa and Geordies playing for Newcastle - that would generate some sort of local pride, and that is NOT what we wantwe want profits, we want globalisation, we want the top clubs never to get challenged, for the sake of the Indian market!Glad you're looking out for the Indian market brother, your izzat is strong
>>157893940leicester won the league, spurs would have if not for cheats. if you are run correctly you can win. of course a chelsea fan would say this because they are just chelsea but worse
>>157893914Anon does have a point regarding the legacy clubs. Never forget Liverpool fans celebrated Everton being denied Europe due to Heysel.
6th favourites for relegation now on oddschecker
>>157893947>I can imagine Starmer would have knelt, but Burnham is too much of a footy fan and everton got fucked too hard for him to help cityBurnham was Mayor of Manchester, he instantly loses half of his popularity in the city if he goes against City in this case.He would be very foolish to do so. He should stay as neutral as possible on it.
>>157893972>half
>>157892359Remember that Britflag shill who spent years saying they wouldn't be guilty?
>>157893972Manchester will always vote Labour lad
>>157893884Did you actually believe anything you just write down? holy cope hahahah
BREAKING>the points deducted will be split over the next 100 seasons
>>157893940These rules aren't destroying anybodyAnd most of the Abrahamovic spending was wasted anyway
These are City's charges:For anyone that forgot what the charges are:>54 - Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information (2009-2018)>14 - Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation (2009-2018)>5 - Failure to comply with UEFA's regulations, including Financial Fair Play Regulations [THIS IS THE MOST SEVERE CHARGE, CAN DISQUALIFY THEM FROM EUROPEAN TOURNIES]>7 - Breaching Premier League Profitability and Sustainability regulations (2015-2018)>35 - Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations (2018-2023)
>>157892359Could this case will eventually end in a Juve-style sanction?
>>157893961>leicester won the leagueWouldn't have without foreign investment.>spurs would have if not for cheatsSpurs are part of the traditional elite of English football, they were big in the 80s and earlier, they just fumbled it in the 1990s at the exact moment the PL was formed so people have this impression of them falsely being a "plucky underdog".>>157893979Manchester is roughly evenly divided between red and blue these days. Man United merely appears bigger because most of the ethnics in random cities across the UK bandwagon them.>>157893995Tell me how do you expect any smaller club to ever break into the elite of English football without massive long-term financial investment from wealthy owners?If you "do it the right way", you just end up with your entire team or even your manager getting pilfered by the rich redshirt clubs the moment you get lucky and win an FA Cup or finish 3rd or whatever.
Neverton are about to get sent down to local five-aside
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>>157894046>you just end up with your entire team or even your manager getting pilfered by the rich redshirt clubs the moment you get lucky and win an FA Cup or finish 3rd or whatever.That happened to Leicester as well, foreign investment be damned.
>Small clubs have an easier time competing if City is allowed to spend 500% of revenue every year because their owners have infinite money
>>157894026>>>35 - Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations (2018-2023)That's the big oneThey need stripping of every single title during that period.
sticky this shitloving the tears from American bandwagoners on r/soccer kek
I genuinely do not see how anything but relegation to League 2 and removal of all illegally earned titles is avoidable
>>157893848There are teams relgated that wouldn't have been and teams that would have got champions league.I would put a lowball estimate at £500m not including prize money to be repaid.
>>157894026What's the one they got away with?
>>157893961And now Leicester (broke EFL financial rules getting promoted btw) are in division 3 and Spurs are bottom of the league. Villa have had to sell half their squad despite qualifying for the CL, Newcastle have to sell any decent player they find, Brighton and Brentford are the best run clubs the country and will never win the league, maybe if the stars align they'll qualify for the CL once. Meanwhile Chelsea and Man United are run by absolute retards and can spend whatever they want because apparently persuading paint companies and noodle manufacturers to give you hundreds of millions of pounds a year is an entirely legitimate source of sporting advantage but persuading Arab royalty to is beyond the pale.
bet they just get a fine their owners can easily pay and life carries on at normal
>>157894079>>157894099Imagine unironically wanting clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs to be granted fake titles that they never actually earned on the pitch.If the PL actually goes that route they will turn this league into a joke forevermore. Massive asterisks over the trophy record of every big club.
>>1578938851bajillion Points deduction, they basically have to accept them (CAS would likely force it).Not impossible they then impose their own points deductions though.Straight expulsion from the EPL? They go to the bottle of the ladder by default and the EFL would actually need to specifically accept them (with most of the championship objecting to it).
>>157893884i'm afraid thats just life little man, nobody will ever respect chelsea or city as football clubs, forever seen as plastic
>>157894076Yes, unironically.If not for the rules that were specifically brought in to prevent another Man City or Chelsea happening again, Newcastle would probably have a couple Prem titles under their belt by now.
>>157894115Fuck off Keep it as nobody won the league then. That's what they did in Italy with Juve's Match Fixing. Either way those titles are fraudulent and all need stripping.
>>157893971Wonder if they'd pay out on expulsion. Kinda suprised they're taking the bets given the risk of insider knowledge, they probably are heavily restricting those bets.
>>157894115They did earn them. City were and are operating illegally. It's like how your dad raped you, shagged you right up the arse, he can't count that as one of the shags he had because it was illegal.
>>157894046I bet you’ll be the first one to whinge that the efl should’ve “done more” next time a club goes under after the owner spunks a load of money up the wall
>this will hurt the small teams who can no longer get rich arabs or jews to spend 500% of revenue every year
>>157894079Ultimately, that's the one that puts it beyond 'just' a record fine and points deduction this year.Chelsea got off with a slap on the risk because they reported irregularities themselves (and there was no financial rules breached). Everton didn't but they still co-operated and got a harsh penalty.
>>157894153>They did earn them. City were and are operating illegally.They didn't earn them. Liverpool, Arsenal, Man United and Spurs failed to win enough matches in order to win the league in any of those seasons.>>157894154If it were up to me I'd pretty much have it be a free for all. It's best in the interests of competition. There should be nothing to stop a club as big as Man United failing and collapsing down to League Two due to mismanagement, and there should be nothing stopping a madman Kazakhstani trillionaire buying up Millwall and turning them into back-to-back Prem winners and Champions League contenders.I want an interesting football pyramid. Not one where the same traditional big clubs win over and over, and the same clubs float around in mid-table Championship purgatory forever.
crazy how Andy Carroll comes out of the closet and it's immediately wiped off the front page
>>157894115There is a lot of precedent to vacating a title (no winner reported), that's what has happened almost every time a title has been stripped in other leagues. Awarding a title a decade later is a farce.
>>157894130i think it was to prevent another Portsmouth from happening
>>157894153>It's like how your dad raped you, shagged you right up the arse, he can't count that as one of the shags he had because it was illegal.And to keep that analogy going, what you're saying is "that gayboy who sat next to you in secondary school should get to count it as HIS shag, cause if your dad hadn't nonced you he would've had an opportunity to consensually bumfuck you instead".Just doesn't make sense does it? You can't turn back the clock, so you can't know what would've happened in the eventuality that the illegality did not occur.
>>157894191All those Liverpool games where he was playing to rent boy chants.
I thought the whole point of the EPL is that it's a pure capitalist system. If these Arabs have the money to spend, who cares if they aren't profitable? From a political standpoint, it seems completely retarded for the UK to reject such huge investment in their country.If you're going to punish clubs like this with silly rules, why not just adopt the American system and put in a salary cap, which accomplishes the same fiscal goals while also promoting parity across the league?
>>157894154Make owners who want to invest more than the club's total revenue pay upfront from their own money.
stripping and awarding other teams titles will never happen, even voiding the titles will be a stretch. Massive points deduction and transfer bans is all we can hope for.
>>157894210Chelsea came real close to completely ceasing to be a club.It was only Ken Bates and Richard Attenborough who set up the Chelsea Pitch Owners and made it impossible for a bank to sieze the land that saved the,
>>157892618Imagine a one point deduction for 2018/19
>>157894187>i want my entire culture and country sold to foreigners no matter the cost to anybodyexplains a lot about the state of britain
>>157894153And despite the illegality he'll never be unraped, just like Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal will never not have been raped by Man City.
Does United win the 2012 league now
>>157894216>I thoughtstop lying fatty
>>157894191no way any fucker would rape him unless they're into horses
The seethe when we get a transfer season ban and a £50m fine will be ENORMOUSEnormous enough to make fagsenal and /MUG/ troons rope
>>157894216>If these Arabs have the money to spend, who cares if they aren't profitable? From a political standpoint, it seems completely retarded for the UK to reject such huge investment in their country.There is a very retarded element of English footballing culture where a very large segment of fans in this country believe that you should have to be a club with a "history of winning titles" or else its unfair for you to win too many titles in the present.The sad thing it isn't just redshirt fans who go along with it, you'll find random supporters of clubs like Brentford or Sunderland who will unironically support Arsenal or Liverpool to win the league over City because "Arsenal/Liverpool have history".It's a very cucked mentality. Just look at the insults they have thrown at City over the years. Saying they have "no fans" purely because they don't have bandwagoners that come from Birmingham or South London like Man Utd do. But if you went back in time to 2007, these exact same fans would've praised City for being "the proper club of Manchester" and directed their hate at Utd instead. It's only when City got "too big for their own boots" that everybody goes vile and tries to tear them and their fans down.The message given is: "If you stay a small club and don't threaten anybody we will love you, but don't you DARE try to take titles away from their RIGHTFUL owners that play in red, or else we'll destroy you."
Sticky?
>>157894216They don't want parity, its best for The Brand™ for the teams who happened to be on top when TV money went through the roof to win forever.
>>157894216>it seems completely retarded for the UK to reject such huge investment in their country.most of the money goes to foreign clubswhen is the last time any of these clubs bought a player from english lower leagues for any kind of money?and FFP rules doesn't prevent you from building new stadiums etc.
So Pep is a fraud after all
English football is a sad joke.
So are the other clubs happy at this news or angry
>>157894271You need to go back
>>157894269*Youth transfer ban (suspended for two seasons) and a fine to be paid over the course of 15 years
>>157892359They'll just appeal for 10 more years then absolutely nothing will happen.
>>157894334Why did you post a picture of Man United fans?
The four year appeal arc now begins.Final punishment: £7m fine and four points deducted.
114-1. Man City you took one hell of a beating.
>>157894271no one will ever consider chelsea or city a legitimate top club, you can seethe all you want but it's just the facts
>>157892359relegate them to the scottish premiership I say
>>157894257oh shit this is the headline story of every single news site here lol this must be super serious business.
>>157894271>"If you stay a small club and don't threaten anybody we will love you, but don't you DARE try to take titles away from their RIGHTFUL owners that play in red, or else we'll destroy you."Case in point Newcastle. The Saudi takeover has amounted to a single League Cup and two Champions League campaigns. But even THOSE are too much.
>>157894187You’re only saying that because you’re a Chelsea fan, I’m sure fans of Bury/Macclesfield/QPR/Portsmouth/Sheffield Wednesday/Reading would disagree with you
“We’ll always have the memories” ass niggas lmao. “Tears in the rain” ass niggas lmaoooo
>>157894352And in my view Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are not legitimate clubs because 95% of their fanbases do not come from the actual local area of the club.
>>157894373Why are you pretending to be black?
>>157894102Failure to have a half empty stadium
It should be points deductions over multiple seasons and guaranteed relegation. Cash fine doesn't really matter to UAE.
>>157892452heh
>>157894406It may do to a degree - Middle Eastern countries were already reducing and backtracking from their mega projects and sportswashing and that was before Iran started launching missiles at them. This whole thing might be the final push to reduce dependency on oil - these nations haven’t diversified as much as they pretend they have.They’re going to have to spend a lot of time, money, and energy on actually building up their militaries. Focusing on European football is not a priority
>>157894406>you don't understand, corrupt rules are good, nobody should play for their hometown club, the best teams should never be challengedcheers fat lad lmao
city should prepare their anus for lawsuits from every single EPL club
>>157894472>BREAKING NEWS: Evangelos Marinakis has EATEN the Etihad Stadium
can foreign teams sue if city beat them in CL?i know it's rare
>>157894461They make 4 Billion in profit a quarter, they'll be fine
LMAO
>>157894510Lmao no they don't, they've literally been inflating sponsorship which is why they're fucked.
>>157893923common occurrence when he gets gigamogged by ornstein
>>157892359bet he's feeling sick right now
>>157893126Only Bury gets that treatment.
> Get demoted to division 12> Financially ruined and go into administration> Utd buy the Etihad and are able to actually fill it
>>157893358This wasn't a matter of simply "somebody spent some more money than what they should've spent" there were other repercussions.
Breaking: City have been relegated to the National League
Admit itHe was the good guy all along
>>157893498>Chorlton-cum-Hardy
>>157894676he's the reason glazers own united
>>157893358ah yes, because a salary cap would have prevented the clippers from being sanctioned in the NBA, right?
What did they do
>>157894710financial doping for at least a decade
>>157894676>>157894641It's hilarious how hard /sp/, and the football fandom in general, simps for the absolute biggest elite football institutions like Man United.Imagine if you went on /v/ and you just saw threads full of people saying how based EA and Epic Games are and that Fortnite is the only proper game because it was 10 gorillion monthly players.This behaviour would seem odd in any other form of entertainment media but in football, its the norm.
We all know what's about to happen.
They corrupted the entire football league and europe as well
>>157894731united are the only team who have a general for losing/drawing
>>157894787those exist because everyone loves man u and wants to see them win everything every single year every trophy all of them every player every title give it all to manchester united
>>157894684No, this is
>>157894731Lad I support a non-league club and I just think Utd sorting out their old Trafford woes by purchasing the Etihad in a garage sale would be hilarious
>>157894775No I think in this case something is actually gonna happen really big. This is the culmination of a project which started with the forced sale of Chelsea in 2022, where the PL and other authorities are working towards an end goal where the "oil teams" functionally cannot compete anymore, and Liverpool, Arsenal and Man United return permanently to the top of football like they were in the 1990s and early 2000s. They're doing this because they believe its what will make them the most money, especially from international markets where the redshirt clubs are monstrously huge.
>>157894727that's it?
>>157894799You have a cuckold mentality.
>>157893885They'll have them in League Two so they have to play the EFL Trophy for at least two years.>>157894801Based if true.
>>157894684Because he bought the wrong half of a horse
>>157894796yes ferguson did it over horse money
getting really sick of arsenal trying to slapp/lawyer their way into relevanceno one gives a shit about your band of cloggers have your yankee doodle owners build a bridge and get over it
>>157893188To not create a perverse incentive witholding information should assume the worst and apply the corresponding penalty.
Where do Indian city fans go next?
>>157894827he didn't buy anythingthey gave it too him as a gift
>>157894852Chelsea
>>157893354Yeah he posted an eternal blue moon (gayest thing imaginable) last week when Arsenal lost (obsessed).
>>157892547Nah banish those Greggas to the Combined Counties North Division 1 West
GUILTY
>>157894852PSG probably. They’re already sweeping up thirdies at a rate unlike anything I’ve ever seen
>>157894838are you really trying to imply arsenal are irrelevant when half the posts online about the prem are about arsenal?
>>157892359this changes nothing
>>157894963LMFAO, get fucked DSL. Pucker up those lips in prison with Mansour
>>157894801Based AF, fuck shitty and chelshit
>>157894963cheating scum
>pulls the ejection handle right before the guilty verdict How did he know?
>>157893629Wasn't Sfinter granted with the 2005 Serie A after the Calciopoli?
>>157894269>and /MUG/Are you an oldfag who's been gone since 2010? I do not think you know what that thread is.
>>157892452Yes, yes, well done, well done. HOWEVAR.
>>157895045>Take the blame, pass the blame
>>157894852>Where do Indian city fans go next?Whoever is winning everything at the moment.That's how thirdies operate.
>>157894731>Imagine if you went on /v/No thanks, lad.
>>157894386Gloryhunters BTFO
if it was Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal (or even Villa or Everton or Spurs) they wouldn't dare chuck them out due to the historical significance and cultural meaning of the club to the domestic game.City are literal whos. they won't care about dumping them in non-league
How the fuck does it get allowed go on for so long is what I want to know. Did the thought occur to nobody that it was A BIT FUCKING ODD that the shitty Manchester team that traditionally just tried (and often failed) not to get relegated was suddenly top of the league by miles and winning the champions league, fifa club world up and so on with over a billion euro of players on the field. And that MAYBE they should be looked into ASAP for financial irregularities and other irregularities causing it? It should all have been sorted out long ago. Now what're they going to do - tell people to erase the past well over a decade from their memories? What a farce. People aren't going to stand for this, same as how the match fixing scandal ended Serie A's dominance this could harm the EPL forever if Man City get regulated.
>>157895498On the other hand, you have to look at Manchester United and how they've been completely ran into the ground by Jewish ownership, and maybe this is a signal that you have to suffer like they are and not just enjoy success from people who are actually invested in more than just parasiting from you for the rest of your existence
>>157895498the first case started in 2018 but they didn't have enough evidence and it's just dragged on since thenthey have to prove that the sponsorships was rigged etci don't think it's simple to prove
>>157892452I dot get it. Don't follow football much. I'm here to point my finger at oil niggas and laugh
>>157892359City did what was necessary to break the Yoonited, Arsenil and Chelshit cartel. If this be cheating, then I am a woman.
>>157892359Who cares, there are no more City fans. They are now PSG fans
heinous shiteverton should get relegated
114 month transfer ban
>>157894907unironically this. the amount of niggas and moroccans here sporting full PSG tracksuits has risen exponentially in the last 5 years
relegate them to the Plumber's Warehouse North West Sunday Shieldcant wait for Man City vs Bexworth Lane Youth Club U15s next season
>enough charges to see them stripped of every oil title, demoted and potentially dissovled >will get less than everton routinely gotGames unironically gone if nothing comes of this
they're so lucky they've successfully defended that one chargeotherwise they would have been fucked
City FEAR the mighty Mariners in the National League North
Even if city get relegated to league 2 they still have oil money and get right back up?
city would destroy all lower league teams. imagine the over 3.5 goals betting opportunities
They are going down to the Championship and will get promoted with 120 points
The sad truth of the matter is that only the American-owned EPL teams are honest and upstanding. Everyone else is corrupt.
So, this doesnt fuckin slip after all, la?
lol Man City 3/1 to be relegated
>>157892618and a transfer window banI wouldn't be surprised is this has already been agreed.
The most fitting punishment is swapping the squads of Manchester city and Manchester United.
at least that would mean that wanker would finally get a hair cut
It's looking more and more like they genuinely will be relegated. Not sure about the titles or any of that.
>>157892359They won, and you're cheering
Retroactive titles don't work. Literally no one actually accepts them as real. It's not really possible as a punishment.
>>157893394City isn't a product like Madrid or Barca, in terms you understand they're the Cleveland Browns that won the ghetto lottery and pretend to be a big team. Even if they win something, nobody really cares.
>>157892359City is cooked
>>157896758they seem to be a team that no one really cares if they win because as long as utd, liverpool, Arsenal, chelsea etc etc are not winning then it's stopping those teams adding titles. People are talking about titles stripped away, asterisk on the titles. But the same can be said if the teams that could benefit just as equally have an asterix on any title gained - no one will ever see them as titles actually won, just gained through citeh's own blunders. This should have all been sorted years ago anyway and that is where a lot of the blame lies. It's like a criminal continuing crimes whilst the cops and others sitting back and turning a blind eye.
INTER ARE EUROPEAN CHAMPIOOOOONS
>>157896073might well call them Bury AFC because they about to get buried in the lower levels of the pyramid LMFAO.
>>157896847The issue is City were purposely delaying the proceedings as long as they could and hoping the PL would give up or run out of money or make a mistake during litigation to have it thrown out.For example, City recommended one of the KCs to be on the panel, then waited until the deadline of raising any grievance with the panel. Then on the final day, they raised a grievance to get the KC they'd recommended thrown off the panel because they said he'd be biased against City
>>157893940>I don't really care about the facts of what rules were brokenKind of derails any decent points you might have made about anything. Fuck off and go be a chelsea supporting nog somewhere else
>>157893972give it a fucking rest, half the city are NOT man city fans, Burnham doesn't give a flying fuck anyway because he's an Everton fan, he doubly doesn't give a fuck because he's no longer the Mayor of Manchester. And Manchester will absolutely always vote for labour no matter who's in charge
>>157896838they should not be suing citeh, they should be suing the PL and they even admit it by saying more should have been done. That's down to the PL not the criminal. Citeh are going to be kicked out the football league probably and face massive fines and they will have to move out of the stadium and sell all the players. The massive delay in doing all this - even for this season means the PL have gained finically by having citeh and the players and the monies being brought in. Leicester were badly run and their own incompetence after being gifted the title in 2016 shows how swiftly they fell off even if they are a small club that managed to win despite the odds due to how shit of a season that was with regard to quality.
>>157892811Ring ring
>>157896883yes but the PL control things and if they are being bossed around by moneybags citeh run by dodgy arabs then that is down to the PL either being corrupt themselves or being weak. We already know other teams were hit straightaway with far more minor stuff than what citeh have done. So really the PL needs suing, they gained from citeh being in the PL when really citeh should have been kicked out or docked points straightaway.
>>157895809Thirdies just want to chase glory - PSG rule the roost in France and the champions league wins have sealed the deal.Their branding is on point and everywhere - they have a fucking shop on Oxford street ffs
>>157896847Yeah it's a shitshow but oh well that's what we got now. You can't fix it and nobody cares about the asterisk titles but at least we can hope that they will now act faster on that shittery.
>>157893940I don't care about dodgy money coming into the game to "improve" things. This is why citeh have been let off the hook for so long, all that money being brought in and now deemed dodgy and basically illegal. The PL's brand is on the line now, everything that citeh did has been to benefit the PL and make it the richest in the world and now it's being brought down to earth. Without that oil money would others have had to bring in such money? Probably not, but why exactly is that a bad thing, buying titles is never good anyway
>>157895479yeah, it's only slightly less retarded than /pol/, slightly...
>>157896939The PL did not control things, the body making the decision was entirely independent.This is also why city cant appeal to CAS, and the appeal goes through the PL system
City fans reaching bargaining stage >O-ornstein is wr-wrong, we were just guilty of misclassifying some sponsors and delaying proceedings. Its j-just gonna be a fine
>>157896981
>>157895649gtfo troon
>>157894481kek
>>157896971The PL were the ones to refer it to a independent body to look at. The problem tho is the PL knew about this shit for years before and did nothing because citeh were bringing the money in. This could have been sorted years ago, all it took was a few brown envelops from the arabs to the PL to keep it going as long as it did. Of course what will happen is the arabs will simply pack up everything and walk away, citeh might well not even exist and would have to restart as a new club in the lower leagues.
>>157897004Did he lose weight?
>>157897019...what a shame, lol
>>157892359The part people arent talking about is that this basically confirms city were cooking the books. A business submitting fraudulent accounts is a pretty serious crime, and the auditors who signed them off will be in for some questions too
Arsenal suing for £120m
>>157897071citeh will have to cook the books again to pay off all these libel cases to get around FPP rules
KEKEK
>>157893309>If nothing comes of this, there will be riotssteady on. some clubs will rightly open legal action but "riots" kek.
