Cope. Nothing is going to happen. The Red Cartel with sneed and seethe. Nothing is going to happen. Liam has already confirmed it's AT WORSE a transfer ban and a fine. All you mongs wanting titles stripped and relegation and point deduction are fucking deluded lmao.The seethe when nothing happens will be legendary. All the cope about 'protesting' and 'going on strike' if the punishment is 'weak' is hilarious.
>arabs and their pet dago are delusional and overconfident Hardly surprising desu
But Mark Goldbridge is wetting himself over a relegation to League 2
>>157950233Why would a Forest fan care?
>NOOOOOOO YOU CHEATED, YOU SPENT LESS THAN THE TOP SPENDERS OF THE LEAGUE MAN YANITED!!!!newcastle voted for ffp back in the day so it's glorious that they will never become top dogs but aston villa voted against so they don't deserve this
>>157950233Huh? He literally did a video a few days ago saying that he thinks the rules are wrong and need to be removed. His logic is that if they don't exist the Glazers will be forced out because Villa and Newcastle etc will spend more and push United down and out.
>>157950167>Liam has already confirmed it's AT WORSE a transfer ban and a fine.ah yes, that famously in the loop footballing journalist liam gallagher
>>157950324Cope. He spoke to a guy very very very high up. Where's your source?>>157950225Cope.
>>157950262Chelsea have spent more than City. But either way, City cheated. Sorry LOL. All your 'trophies' are tainted. You cheated. Everything is void.
>>157950373>He spoke to a guy very very very high up.did he now
>>157950392>cheating by spending the same amount of money as other teams in the same leaguego to bed nigel
>>157950406Yep. Go on his twitter. You can sneed and seethe all you want. Nothing is going to happen.>>157950392COPE.
>>157950438shame he can't name his sourceif he was telling the truth he'd be able to say who it was
>>157950437Go read the rules you retarded nafri. They cheated by putting in money that did not come from footballing sources, paid players and managers off the book, took costs off the club in order to cook the books to 'adhere' to the rules. They got caught and when they got caught they refused to hand over their books and fought it all the way. They got found guilty.Imagine being so fucking inbred and retarded you think the issue here is how much money was spent, not that the fact the club doesn't earn that much (despite the club buying out their stadium every week even tho it's only full by 45% during match days).If even AI can manage to make coherent posts about the subject, the fact you don't understand it and are dumber than an AI is hilarious.
>>157950482>club A can spend a billion (and be in debt)>club B cannot spend a billion (and not be in debt)oy vey
>>157950482These anons find it so hard to comprehend concepts as laws and rules.
>>157950605probeer je je nou voor te doen als mij
>>157950307I think he's covering all bases like he always does and then deletes the opinions which don't do well
>>157950233Technically, with 114 charges city should be disbanded altogether, as the point deduction is far more than any lower league
>>1579507532 weeks
>>157950482That's not even why they're going after them and you know it. They're mad at them because every team in UEFA needs to be globohomo-compliant and have a 50% black squad, which they didn't have the year they won the treble. They did the same thing with Wenger: one year he registered a squad that only had 2 black players and the globohomos literally paid a fucking airplane to fly a banner over london all year saying "wenger out" and it wasn't until they utterly diversified their squad that the refs allowed them to win anything
>>157950753Apparently, the EFL have said if City get thrown out of the PL then they won't accept them in the Championship or L1 & L2So that means they'll go to the National LeagueCan't see that happening
>>157951109If they get thrown out, yes, which is why the Premier League would instead hand out a massive points deduction that relegates them (rather than demoting or expelling them).
Bros I am beginning to believe arabs are actually bad with money and their only business strategy is to throw as much sovereign wealth at any venture till it works.First LIV golf, now City!
>the city of OP
>>157951109>We deduct City 150pts>they get relegated>they have a laugh in Championship, win every game, go unbeaten and come straight backwho cares?
>He's gonna do damage control for a year for FREE and you'll still be bumping his bait threadsWelcome to /spee/
>>157961186unironically this, i cannot fucking wait to go to championship games and have a larf with all the manc lads. going from Istanbul CL final to fucking portsmouth will be incredible
>>157950515why didn't they simply go in debt than? Why hide money and pay off the books? Could it be they are a small club with 10 fans and don't' even own the ground they play in? And in addition are a shallow hollow little club that should be playing in the conference league at best?
>>157961246All your trophies, from 2008 on wards are tainted. Cheat.
>>157951109they would no exist as a club and would just be wound up. Whether they start up again as some small local club and work all the way through the divisions is another matter. But that is like saying Salford might have been citeh at one point and are now in the FL.
>>157961246You won't go.
>>157961145I'm sorry, but did we already lose our titles? Oh, that's right. The proceedings aren't even over yet. In fact, it's only the 395th week. Does a strongly-worded letter at 395th week count as a title loss or relegation? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong.
>>157961269all the clubs in the PL should refuse to play them and the PL would be forced to kick citeh out. And they can fuck off wit the appeal shit, citeh dragged this shit out as long as possible already.
>>157961269>>157961300>replying to 190 on his vpnlol
>>157961355What does it matter? Whoever it is won't go.
>>157961300>>157961355>You
>>157950167They're gonna make Steve Ballmer's NBA penalty look meager
>>157961386Hope you're going to enjoy the 10th tier.
>>157950392Cheated, sure. It's not as severe an infraction as most make it out to be though. The idea of voiding their trophies is silly, they won them fair and square - on the same level playing field (both competitively and financially) as the rest of the top six. Relegation and financial penalties? Sure. Taking or voiding their trophies? That was never your decision to make.
>>157961447>The idea of voiding their trophies is silly, they won them fair and square - on the same level playing field (both competitively and financially)but they didn't. they won them by putting £1bn illegally into the team over a period of time and buying players that would have gone elsewhere had you not illegally bought them. toure got separate wages off the books, you saying yaya toure wasn't instrumental in them winning stuff? lol.retard.even if the pl cuck out and don't void them, no fan is going to consider them legit.
>>157961523Football is played on the pitch, not in the financial auditor's office. What matters is that City never held a competitive advantage, and it's for that reason that their trophies should remain valid. I personally could not give a fuck if they weren't supposed to be allowed to sign Toure, and that's because Man Utd, Liverpool, Chels, Arsenal all COULD. >but they didn't. they won them by putting £1bn illegally into the teamteam a spends a billion and it's called legal, while team b also spends a billion and it's called illegal. not a big deal on the football side of things, the better team simply spent the money more wisely and won when it mattered.
>>157961720citeh couldn't get the money legally to spend on players, so instead they set up sham and illegal sponsorship deals which were really just the owner spending money to buy players. Just image if all the teams in the PL just had the owners buying any player they want, billions of pounds in a team and nothing generated from anything else
>>157961720>never held a competitive advantageBut they literally did, did you not read the PL ruling? What part of this don't you get? If you signed Toure over, lets say, United, how is this not a competitive advantage? You're paying Toure £10m through a separate contract because you cannot afford to pay him £15m officially. Again, how are you THIS retarded? The whole point is that this is a competitive advantage. You signed players you shouldn't have legally been able to sign. You committed fraud (a criminal offence, btw) by hiding your earnings and spendings when reporting to HMRC and the PL so you can pretend you had more money than you did. This means you won trophies, hired better managers and got better players. Pep wouldn't have joined if City hadn't won shit with illegally bought and funded players.Again, go read the PL report. It's out right now.https://www.premierleague.com/en/news/4727779/premier-league-statement-manchester-city-fc
>>157961774>If you signed Toure over, lets say, United, how is this not a competitive advantage?Because United had equal opportunity to sign Toure. It is only a competitive advantage if City were in a unique position that enabled only them to buy these players. And we know that this is not the case. They cheated to get on level terms with the rest of the big six. Again, that is NOT competitive advantage. They are being punished for their maneuvering that got them into the position that they are in now.
+1 PL for The Special One+1 PL for Ole, the first person to win the PL as both a manager and playerGood doing business with you
They'll pay a fine and that's it. Nothing ever happens. At best they'll get a point deduction that leaves them out of the title race for this seaaon. I don't see them getting relegated or getting a transfer ban
>>157962256and the owners? Basically a fraud club with fraud owners who have committed criminal fraud. And top of that they still think they are innocent of everything. So the PL is going to give them a slap on the wrist, let a criminal owner carry on in the PL and carry on as if the yhave done nothing wrong? Nope, first of all that owner will be kicked out of Englaish football and UEFA won't allow them in any club in Europe either. So citeh will have no owner, the club would have be sold off and then they are facing possibly billions in compensation to clubs who will want want everything. There won't be anything left of the club tho it will be dissolved to avoid the massive financial payments, all the libel actions.
>>157961355I thought he ACKed himself after his e-whore found out about his posts
I dont think they will do much because itd be a massive blow to the PL and PL is all about business.I dont doubt every big club in the PL is similarly corrupt anyway so I dont think theres really much of a moral standpoint anyway, the main issue is the "old firm" clubs upset they were outcorrupted and wanting to stamp that down.
>>157963108They should just call it the CL- corruption league.
>>157962148But they didn't. City offered him more money buy offering to pay him a second off-the-books wage. Which is against the rules. What about this do you not get? You mention 'get level with the big six' yet you don't give a shit about the other clubs who followed the rules, do you?
>>157963051He tried a new trip called Geezer with a Barcadi Breezer and another trip but because he kept posting with his VPN and files attached to his trip he gave up and realised being a gimmick flag was better for (You)s.
>>157961186The players that aren't interested in paying in the championship care
>>157963303they signed a contract, so unless the contract says 'released if relegated' then they're stuck.
>>157963368Standard league contract for any team has relegation clauses. How will they continue to conform to finance regulations when their income is non existent from lack of premier league and cl matches? Players will have to be sold regardless.
>>157963274>City offered him more money by offering to pay him a second off-the-books wage.Yes, the players were paid off the book. However, because of this it is currently unknown how much they were precisely being paid, it remains to be seen. However, I find your claim that the amount of money the players were paid off the book was *SIGNIFICANTLY* more than they would have been paid 'on the book' at another club to be fantasy. While it remains to be seen how much the players were actually paid, the premise that players were being lured in with astronomical wages that no other club could compete with is just total nonsense. Word of misconduct of this scale would have got out far sooner than it did in reality. There wasn't even a suspicion before they got hacked which is extremely telling. I imagine they paid similar wages to other clubs, just some was off the book because they couldn't actually do it regularly.>Which is against the rules. What about this do you not get?I know it's against the rules, read my first post if you forgot. The whole point of my argument is that the rules they broke didn't provide them any competitive advantage - which is the most important thing in the topic of sports, and that's the thing that most people miss. >You don't give a shit about the other clubs who followed the rules, do you?unrelated
>>157964414You claimed that they HAD to cheat in order to 'level the playing field' with 'the big six' so it's OK to cheat to get level with them but fuck the other clubs who followed the rules? To claim there was no advantage in this is just pure delusion on your part and I don't think you're arguing in good faith. So I'm done here.
>>157964414>The whole point of my argument is that the rules they broke didn't provide them any competitive advantage - which is the most important thing in the topic of sports, and that's the thing that most people miss.No this is bullshit. If you cheated then you cheated, whether or not cheating actually worked out for you is irrelevant. This is the same bullshit that Houston Astros fans try to pull here in America, "oh but Altuve actually hit worse with the camera signal system so he asked them to stop!". Doesn't matter.
>>157964616You're right, the other clubs who would have been hovering around the champions league / europa league zone will have been hit the hardest and it would be wrong of me to say city didn't have an unfair advantage against them. They deserve legitimate compensation for their losses. I was tunnel visioned into the league title when discussing competitive advantages which isn't the full picture I admit. But I still maintain that they didn't hold any significant competitive advantage in regards to the premier league title. The europa league and champions league hovering teams (i.e. brentford, brighton, west ham etc.) were never contenders for that. Two things can be true at once. Though if a team from outside of the top six came second in the league, losing out to city at any juncture then I would say they deserve that title. The same cannot be said for the top six.
