Is the outrage against Manchester City FC becoming a mass-hysteria event?
That's genuine mental illness
It's insane how much seethe and butthurt there are from fans of red shirt clubs who are all dog shit and get raped and gaped by everyone especially hated JFs in the CLBongs are throwing away their only recent win against enemy continentals because of buthurt from MANUre, arse and liverpooSoccer is the mechanism of European nationalism and you're just throwing it away to admit defeat to France, Spain and Germany.
>>157976894IT'S MUH RED CARTEL'S FAULT THAT WE CHEATED FOR OVER A DECADE
>>157976901kek what made you bandwagon old shitty red boomer teams City brougjt haaland to England and cucked Spain of him, they will always be respectable for that no matter what You're missing the big picture. This is a war for soft power. This is geosportlitical
>>157976862It's becoming very performative and American female coded.
>>157976922based retard
>>157976862>believing those pampered gazillionars actually give a fuck
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Pep personally told Jota to floor the gas. He has blood on his hands.
>>157976862claude died bcuz the nigger in charge kick him off to appease AFTV's ballsack shaving ad
People who care this much about football are sad cunts. It's a bit of entertainment.
>>157977471This is all gonna end in tragedy when some sadsack Liverpool or Arsenal fan goes insane and kills a Man City fan after a match cause of how angry they are over the "cheating".Social media and the footballing press are trying to whip up hysteria and make this whole scandal seem like an Epstein-level crime rather than just funny sportsball nonsense.
>>157976862He would unironically be alive if they hadn't cheated
I think people aren't taking it seriously enoughManchester city basically raped the fans of all other clubsThey raped themliterally
Why are scousers like this? Even in Portugal he's already forgotten
>pay to play merc league hysteric about money
>>157976862Jota robbed his own brother of his life by being a reckless retard
>>157977920>make this whole scandal seem like an Epstein-level crime rather than just funny sportsball nonsense.An £800m+ fraud is not "funny sportsball nonsense".
>>157978322It's a game. Nobody's lives were harmed by the fact that City won a bunch of trophies in the past 15 years rather than Utd or Arsenal doing so.Ironically the only lives that WILL be harmed are the stadium staff who are going to get unfairly fired when the PL drops a nuclear-tier punishment banishing the club to the National League North or some shite.
>>157977920It's no better than retarded teenage girls who hate Beyonce because they like Taylor Swift or vice versa. In fact it's much worse because a lot of these spastic sportsball fans well into adulthood. SAD.
>>157978352>It's a game.That's not the point.>>157978375Another clueless clown.
>>157978322It really, really is. By all means enjoy the drama - I am too - but being emotionally invested in brown millionaires playing a silly sport is about as low-IQ as it's possible to get.
>>157978387>"NOOOOOOOOO NGUBU SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING FOR BLUE TEAM! HE SHOULD BE WITH MGUBU AT RED TEAM! THIS IS VERY VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS!"
>>157978387>>It's a game.>That's not the point.What is the point then? Tell me why you think "Sports team owners spent more money than they were legally permitted to" is apparently an Earth-shattering revelation that the whole world should care about.
>>157978407This is all happening because fans of teams like Liverpool genuinely spent the past 20 years deluding themselves into thinking they were a salt-of-the-earth working class sporting institution rather than a corporate entity like all the rest of them. So they see Man City "cheating" as some kind of deeply profound moral crime, the "rich" robbing from the "poor" kind of stuff.
>>157978514I agree but also I've also heard City fans on talksport going frothing at the mouth about the "red cartel" and all of that shite which is equally sad and pathetic.
>>157978104>Why are scousers like this?You are retarded, the post is made by an Arsenal fan
>>157978599Well it is worth pointing out.Football is the only entertainment medium, perhaps even the only major sport, where there are regulations devised solely to keep big teams big and small teams small. And where fans go on and on about "history of winning" as the only relevant factor in determining a team's worth.Imagine that happening in any other form of entertainment. "Fortnite is the only proper video game because it has 1 gorillion players! Your favourite game only sold 500,000 copies so it sucks and you should be ashamed for playing it!"
>>157978626>Football is the only entertainment medium, perhaps even the only major sport, where there are regulations devised solely to keep big teams big and small teams small.Nope, that happens in cricket.Very interesting you describe football as an "entertainment medium" first.
>>157978626They also see themselves as a plucky underdog fighting against the man, which is just as retarded as what you described from Scousers et al.By all means, disagree with rules and voice that disagreement but fully-grown men should not be unironically seething about anything like this.>>157978640>Very interesting you describe football as an "entertainment medium" first.It is, unless you're a player/coach/whatever
>>157978498Clubs agree to play under certain rules. Most team comply. One Shity team decides the rules are beneath them. Corrupt and shameless
>>157978689>By all means, disagree with rules and voice that disagreement but fully-grown men should not be unironically seething about anything like this.In that case why should the authorities care?>It is, unless you're a player/coach/whateverNo, it says to me you don't understand the nature of sports in the slightest.
>>157978706>In that case why should the authorities care?Cos it's their job, numbnuts.
>>157978736I'm not the one who's claiming it's an entertainment medium. If it's an entertainment medium like you say it is, why should there be any rules at all?
>>157976862do Liverpool fans work in the dairy industry or something, why do they milk every single event far past the expiration date
>>157978758Because this particular form of entertainment wouldn't be very entertaining if there were no rules. It's braindead to be treating this as though it's a rigged national election or something.
>>157978823>It's braindead to be treating this as though it's a rigged national election or somethingI think you should go back to your home board.
wtf are man city's lawyers doing itt
>>157978909I think you should stop taking entertainment so seriously
>>157978640>Very interesting you describe football as an "entertainment medium" first.It is entertainment. Watching and following football is supposed to be fun. I may have allegiances to a team, but I only do that because it is fun to be attached to a team and to have someone to root for.The moment football stops being fun because its being bogged down by infinite regulations, many people will give up and take their attention elsewhere to things which are more enjoyable to spend their free time on (video games, films/TV, music, even Youtube).It is in the interests of fun for football to be spontaneous and unpredictable, where you can't immediately predict the outcome of any given season. When you introduce rules saying "teams can only spend based on their revenue", you make things predictable, you make it so I can easily predict "Well, Arsenal are going to win this season and probably the next too, because they already have the best team and now they also have the advantage of being a traditional big club which has a right to spend more money, according to the rules". Or I can also predict "Despite Tottenham being shit and finishing in 17th, they won't ever be relegated because their massive stadium revenue and non-footballing events like Beyonce concerts mean they can spend their way out of every bad situation."It's the same with something like VAR. You introduce a system which enforces rules at the expense of fun. Now the game is more "legally correct" but isn't as good to watch as a result.
>>157976894You keep saying this and yet Liverpool and Chelsea have both been champions of Europe in the last seven years, and Chelsea are the current champions of the world. I think you may be mentally ill
>>157979150Nah mate you don't understand - there are rules, therefore it isn't entertainment
>>157978626>Imagine that happening in any other form of entertainmentWhat do you mean imagine? That's exactly how normies operate.
>>157976862If Manchester City takeover didn't happen he could have been alive, butterfly effect and all
>>157977149I don't understand why they were driving to take the car on the ferry. Jota must have been a millionaire, he couldn't rent a jet?
>>157979109You don't get sports mate, stop trying.>>157979425Rattled as fuck.
>>157978626>Imagine that happening in any other form of entertainment. "Fortnite is the only proper video game because it has 1 gorillion players! Your favourite game only sold 500,000 copies so it sucks and you should be ashamed for playing it!"it appears you haven't visited /v/ or /vg/ much in the past several years
>>157978817>do Liverpool fans work in the dairy industry or something, why do they milk every single event far past the expiration date
>>157976862That’s hard to hear but they are murderers, he would still be alive if they didn’t cheat.
fuck me you'd think city had firebombed an orphanage, who in their right mind gives a fuck about sponsorship deals
>>157980159He probably just enjoyed driving his luxury car.>>157980254I don't think you get much of anything at all
>>157978599there is absolutely a cartel in this country and you are de-fucking-lusional if you think otherwise
>>157981135AFAIK over the course of 10 years, they fraudulently reported 900 million pounds of "sponsorship revenue". Without that money I doubt they'd have been anywhere near as successful. Nobody really gives a shit about what company slaps its name on their stadium or shirts, it's just that they cheated to get around spending rules. Of course I think Man City fans would argue that this whole system feels rigged to benefit teams big enough to get huge sponsorship deals to begin with. There's no way they were realistically ever going to get the same brand deals as Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, or Chelsea around 2008 when nobody knew or cared who the fuck they were.
>>157976894>It's insane that people are angry at cheating
>>157976894>Bongs are throwing away their only recent win against enemy continentalsI really don't think the British care about that. When it was Tottenham vs Liverpool in the Champions League Final, do you think Arsenal/United fans were like "well it's good that the finalists are both English at least"?
>>157981453Sponsors don't only take the supposed "popularity" of clubs into account, it's quite plausible that City could land big contracts on growth projections.
>>157981557Big enough to compete with the clubs that were already massive global brands, though? And anywhere near what they ended up claiming as sponsorship money? Seems pretty unlikely.
>>157981557>literal leaked emails showing how overinflated the agreements were
>>157981913>NYCFCIt would be so fucking funny if the New York Yankees get implicated in this, NYCFC plays in our stadium and Yankee Global Enterprises owns a percentage of the team (with City Football Group being the majority owner obviously).
>>157981913Doesn't really mean anything out of context.
>>157976862>muhh ClaudeThese fucking aftv and redditors were the one who cancel himFucking hypocrite performative retards all of them
>>157981197Sure, OK. I don't really care. Either way it's not something an adult should be overly upset about.
>>157982009completely bizarre response, supporters are not the only party involved in professional football
>>157981959I think the issue is this bit>Sponsorship fees 67.5m>8m should be funded directly by Etihad and 59.5 by ADUGAs far as I understand it, ADUG is the club's ownership group. They're falsely reporting the full 67.5m as sponsorship money when in reality only 8m came from a sponsor and the rest was just a direct injection of cash from ownership. It would be like if Liverpool had a sponsorship deal with some Boston-based company (idk, maybe Dunkin Donuts) officially reported at 50m, but in reality only 5m was coming from Dunkin Donuts and the other 45m was just John Henry transferring cash from Fenway Sports Group's accounts.
>>157982018Yeah OK but do I really need to specify that I'm not talking about the miniscule % of the population who are professionally involved with the Premier League?
>>157978352Except that numerous teams were cheated out of millions due to being placed lower, due to City cheating.
>>157981959>out of contextNo, it's very obvious what that email states. You have to be deliberately ignorant to claim otherwise.The Etihad Airways sponsorship fee of Manchester City for 2015/16 was supposedly £67.5m. It turns out that only £8m of that fee was going to be paid by the actual sponsor. The remaining £59.5m was paid by Abu Dhabi United Group (i.e. the owners). From that transaction alone, that allowed Manchester City to spend an additional £59.5m on player costs without incurring PSR losses, when in reality they should have only been allowed to spend £8m without incurring PSR losses.>>157982022>It would be like if Liverpool had a sponsorship deal with some Boston-based company (idk, maybe Dunkin Donuts) officially reported at 50m, but in reality only 5m was coming from Dunkin Donuts and the other 45m was just John Henry transferring cash from Fenway Sports Group's accounts.Correct.
>>157982065those teams didnt bring elite players and coaches to epl, which is one of the reasons epl earns so much money right now. and those poop fc teams now can earn billions when they never bothered to invest proper money in football, that's the real fraud.
>>157982022I'm aware of what the implication is but that's just a reading and these emails are old news. He used different phrases elsewhere. It was already ruled once in court that Etihad's sponsorship was made at a fair market value. So we don't really know what City's financial skeleton looked like, how they were moving money, or for what reasons.For the record I'm not sure whether or not City are guilty. I just believe there's a possibility they were legitimate and I'm not really swayed by the PL's reasoning so far.
>>157982154>I'm aware of what the implication is but that's just a reading and these emails are old news.It's not "a reading", that's literally what it says.>So we don't really know what City's financial skeleton looked like, how they were moving money, or for what reasons.Please be baiting. You cannot be that fucking dense.>I just believe there's a possibility they were legitimate and I'm not really swayed by the PL's reasoning so far.Absolutely laughable.
>muh stolen memoriesall this drama and crying makes me want city to get a light punishment so everybody goes even more retarded
>>157982213tsmt
>>157982062You do, actually. It's not just restricted to the Premier League clubs involved that were affected, the local economies of each club were too. Sunderland for example could have had a significant Europa League campaign had they won the 2014 League Cup, and it wouldn't have just been a boost for the club financially, but also the local area.Your reply of>Either way it's not something an adult should be overly upset about.is ironically immature. You see football as nothing more than the equivalent of a soap for men. It isn't. Maybe you should grow up.
>>157982062sure thing dawg
>>157982254Is that the reason why the overwhelmingly majority of people are upset about this? Because the local economy lost out on a slight boost? Or is it because they wanted to see Ngubu lift a shiny cup?
>>157982411While both of those are relevant, I'd say it's the persistent dishonesty from Manchester City that's the most significant factor.
>>157982110Spurs had Modric and Bale, who both left in part because the team wasn't making the Champions League, they kept finishing 5th. If all those 5th place finishes became 4th place finishes and they got all the extra CL money that comes with it, how different does that whole decade look for them?
>>157982742modric and bale left because spurs' owner loves money more than football
>>157976894>It's insane how much seethe and butthurt there are from fans of red shirt clubs who are all dog shit and get raped and gaped by everyone especially hated JFs in the CLit always boils down to bloods vs crips, doesn't it
>>157978322Who gives a shit. Nobody is touching that money other than arab sheiks, chinese oligarchs and american jewllionaires. All we get in return is 22 illiterate millionaires playing a children’s game for the better part of a couple of hours.
the crux of it is that>City hid its spending to catch up to the other big clubsthe only people that actually care are the "fans" (various third worlders) of those other big clubs who also have rules in place that basically guarantee they'll stay big forever
>>157985165I agree that the rules are unfair, but the United Arab Emirates government still agreed to abide by them when they launched this marketing project using Manchester City as a vehivle. If they didn't like those rules, they should have done what Qatar did and bought a team in France where the rules are apparently different. Or what the Saudis have mostly done (Newcastle notwithstanding) and thrown enough money around to make people come to them.
>>157985360>as a vehivle*vehicle
>>157985360>but the United Arab Emirates government still agreed to abide by them when they launched this marketing project using Manchester City as a vehivleFFP was not introduced until 3 years after the Sheikhs bought Manchester City.
>>157985467Wait, they had 3 whole years to do whatever they wanted with no restrictions, and they *still* had to cook the books this hard to build a competitive team? God damn. So these guys aren't just scummy, dishonest cheaters, they're also apparently ludicrously incompetent.
>>157976862I wonder what type of retard would stoop so low as to claim butterfly effect of kickball team cheating being related to a dude speeding his lambo and getting fucking obliterated.I wonder.
>breaks the rules and assfucks "traditional clubs"Utterly basedI hope they get the judge supposed to sentence them assassinated
Jota tried to cheat the speed limit
>>157985574>incompetentYou can't really claim this when they build a team that dominated and won as much as it did. Their ambitions were fully realised, it's just they had to bend the rules on their way to the top.
>>157976862Yes. Letting the Third World have internet access was a mistake.
>>157987151Isn't the third world defending them? I don't know who's trolling whom anymore.
>>157980159Because Cars are kino, basedboy
>>157982504It's because they want to see Ngubu lift a shiny cup. Being deprived of that is a pretty sad reason to be genuinely upset>>157984990Nail on the head, Carlos
>>157987571No, Third Worlders support the red cartel in the EPL or Barca or Real Madrid.
>>157984990>playing a children's gameAnother immature manchild.>>157988042>It's because they want to see Ngubu lift a shiny cup. Being deprived of that is a pretty sad reason to be genuinely upsetMy team will never get close to winning a major honour. The fact Manchester City were getting away with this for so long is the disgusting part.
>>157979409>I think you may be mentally ill>chikanermentally ill is an understatement
>>157978322you're so close to realising why this entire circus is complete nonsense and there was no fraud
>>157988169Enlighten me then. Why was no fraud committed?
my brother and I picked up citeh on a whim and pure hatred of man uenjoying all this butthurt and have enjoyed the success latelyhttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/33tTTxbBaTU?ra=mwhitest crowd in the PL budddyyyyyu
>>157988196>whitest crowd in the PL budddyyyyyulol, lmaonot even close
>>157988134Do you not have better things to be "disgusted" by than a sportsball team inflating their sponsorship revenue? I get that it's annoying, disappointing and whatever, but I think the point being made in this thread is that a lot of fans' reactions to it are over the top, and, quite frankly, gay.
>>157988201>sportsballThere you go again. Which "sports" do you even like? Or do you not just have one and came across from another board to shitpost?>I think the point being made in this thread is that a lot of fans' reactions to it are over the top, and, quite frankly, gay.You do you.
>>157988201hmm well i will say that a bunch of slimy rich arabs in the uae govt being able to flout the rules in britain as they please is pretty disgusting. that isn't why the ledditor in OP pic is seething though
>>157988215I like football but I like it in the same way I like, say, Game of Thrones. I imagine you would be quite bemused if you saw people getting as upset about the showrunners ruining its later seasons as a lot of people are about Man City breaking the rules to buy better players, no?
>>157988246>I like football but I like it in the same way I like, say, Game of Thrones.So you genuinely don't have an interest in sports. You solely see it as consumable entertainment.>I imagine you would be quite bemused if you saw people getting as upset about the showrunners ruining its later seasons as a lot of people are about Man City breaking the rules to buy better players, no?That's a completely braindead analogy. Sums you up entirely.
>>157979150>It is in the interests of fun for football to be spontaneous and unpredictable, where you can't immediately predict the outcome of any given season. This is a gross oversimplification. By this logic deciding every game at the coin toss would be the most "fun". Part of the entertainment is in explaining the past/present and predicting the future and you need continuity for that.
>>157988253It's a perfectly reasonable analogy. Red team or blue team winning has as much bearing on the lives of the public as the dragon burning down the castle. If you're like 19 years old then I can kind of forgive you for thinking that Ngubu trying to score more goals than Mbugu is much more srs business than anyone else's choice of entertainment, but if you're in your mid 20s or older you're kind of sad, sorry to tell you.
>>157988302>It's a perfectly reasonable analogy. Red team or blue team winning has as much bearing on the lives of the public as the dragon burning down the castle.You're completely clueless.>If you're like 19 years old then I can kind of forgive you for thinking that Ngubu trying to score more goals than Mbugu is much more srs business than anyone else's choice of entertainment, but if you're in your mid 20s or older you're kind of sad, sorry to tell you.Another post that explains it perfectly: you're a lonely edgy teenager who knows no better. Hope you get some friends mate. When you grow up, maybe you can go out and watch a local football match.
>>157988200ohfuck off Bumpingtonhampahiretown FC doesn't count
>>157988324Yes it does. The PL isn't just six clubs.
>>157988319>it's a bad analogy because I said soActually I used to travel around the country watching my team play years ago. Then I got a girlfriend and a job I liked. I suggest you do the same. Maybe take those posters of Ngubu off your wall first though.
>>157976862It's a bit weird that the noise coming out for ages was that City had been cleared, then out of nowhere during an international break it turns out they're actually guilty of everything.It makes you wonder what evidence the PL has. If they're still going off the Spiegel emails then this'll just be UEFA vs CAS all over again. But I'm not certain what City's defence was doing.
>>157976922>City will always be respectable
>>157988383>Actually I used to travel around the country watching my team play years ago. Then I got a girlfriend and a job I liked.Stop lying, it's obvious you've never been to a game in your life.
>>157988402It's obvious you have never seen a single episode of Star Wars in your life, or you would understand that it's very serious business!!! >:(
>>157988436You've lost the argument mate. Hope you enjoy your non-existent girlfriend and apparent dream job.
>>157988457You've been thoroughly routed here, but I'm optimistic for you. You seem like a reasonably intelligent lad, so, once the frustration subsides and you get a little bit older, you may actually look back on this as being the moment you began to realise that niggers from Brazil kicking a ball around a field isn't worth seething about. You're welcome, btw.
>>157976862REDDITLEL KYS OPR9 > JOTAR9 CAN DRIVE
>>157976862I think it is, speaking as an ABU. City need to keep their titles. City has elevated the league while Manure kept tripping over themselves. They shouldn't be rewarded for incompetencey. If the league punishes City hard PSR should laxxen. It should be easier for owners of means to invest in clubs. The better the quality of the league the worse off Manure is
>>157988501PSR no longer exists, it was replaced by Squad-Cost Ratio (SCR).
>a screenshot of fucking reddit counts as a thread now on /sp/
>>157976862Why are the bongs so mad about this? You'd think Man City just nuked three major British cities from the amount of seething this has caused. It's just football! Cheating is part of the game. Everyone cheats to win.
>>15798886099.9% of Premier League fans are third-world customers of Manure, Liverpool and Arsenal. They are just in a blind rage that another team kept beating them, they don't care about the details or have a high enough IQ to understand them even if they did. It's the same mindset that their teams have where they just want to ban all competition instead of earning success on a level playing field.
>>157988860>Why are the bongs so mad about this?Most English football fans are total cucks who would rather watch Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal win over and over and over because "at least they have 'istreh!!!"Seriously its bizarre, you'll find comments from some random fan of Stoke or Preston and they're just non-stop simping for Utd and seething over City.
>>157990563Arsenal winning the league just makes EPL look pathetic when Arsenal doesn't have major international trophies.
