The Man City verdict + the forced sale of Chelsea in 2022 + financial rules blocking the likes of Villa/Newcastle from investing have ensured no other team in England will ever be able to compete at the top level again.England will become a Spain/Scotland style league where the same 2 or 3 clubs win every single year, and the rest of the league are just fodder who have to sell all of their good players to the aforementioned 3 if they ever have a decent season or win a cup.Is this really what you wanted, /sp/?
It's going to be Brighton's turn, mark my words.
>The Man City verdict + the forced sale of Chelsea in 2022 + financial rules blocking the likes of Villa/Newcastle from investing have ensured no other team in England will ever be able to compete at the top level again.>England will become a Spain/Scotland style league where the same 2 or 3 clubs win every single year, and the rest of the league are just fodder who have to sell all of their good players to the aforementioned 3 if they ever have a decent season or win a cup.>Is this really what you wanted, /sp/?
>>157976964City are a soulless, sham club who forged over £900m in revenue and STILL can't fill their stadium
This sport has more semen slurping than /gif/
>>157976964>England will become a Spain/Scotland style league where the same 2 or 3 clubs win every single yearThat’s already the case
>>157976964>England will become a Spain/Scotland style leaguewe're already way past that
>>157977013>>157977018This is the funny part, City fans want to have it both ways.Simultaneously they dominated league* (Via cheating), but also they're the only thing stopping league domination.This is the same club that covered up for a paedophile
>>157976983Why do you want the same three redshirt clubs to be allowed to dominate the league endlessly without challenge?
>>157977013>>157977018>>157976964At least it's not Manchester UnitedEveryone used to agree on that
>>157977041Why do you want the same paedophile, sham club to win every year without challenge?
Liverpool are Leicester and Blackburn tier in Premier League context
>>157977036>>157977018>>157977013Now imagine what the league could've looked like if the financial rules brought in during the last 15 years (specifically to prevent another Chelsea or Man City from ever happening again) didn't exist.Newcastle and Aston Villa could've spent as much as their owners were willing to invest in order to compete, and thus would likely have won at least 1 or 2 titles by this point. We would realistically have a scenario where about 8 clubs could challenge for the league each season.On the flip-side: What would the league look like if Abramovich were never allowed to buy Chelsea and the Sheikhs were never allowed to buy Man City? The years 2004-2013 would've been solely won by Arsenal and Man Utd with maybe one Liverpool win in the middle. The 2010s would've belonged to Man Utd and Liverpool. And the 2020s would've been straight Arsenal wins for the most part.I'm not a Man City fan btw, I support Chelsea.
>>157977066They did have challenge. Did Klopp's Liverpool, Mourinho and Conte's Chelsea, and Arteta's Arsenal not exist?The allegations have never been that "City invested so much nobody could ever compete with them" but rather that they circumvented the rules to allow themselves to invest amounts comparable to what Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are allowed to invest.
>>157976964Yes, I want a Liverpool-Arsenal duopoly.
>>157977100>Did Klopp's Liverpool, Mourinho and Conte's Chelsea, and Arteta's Arsenal not exist?So what you're saying is we would have actually had MORE winners if City didn't cheat
>>157976983owners really should of bought everton or villa
>>157977041Redmond won.Seether harder, Blutarch shills.(Red spy in the base btw)
>>157977154>Redmond won.yes, american billionaires won
>>157977113No because if you had your way then Chelsea wouldn't be allowed to compete either (as they are not able to post-2022 thanks to the UK government's sanctions + forced sale to predatory American owners). It would've just been Liverpool and Arsenal.
>>157977186>forced sale to predatory American ownerskek didnt know this happened
Chelsea will be up there, only reason they were shit last season is because cheaty tapped up maresca (good luck now you bald cunt) who sabotaged them mid season. United are also shit, and arsenal were poor not that long ago but fair play, have stuck by arteta. Whole league will be miles better off without an openly cheating club. Honestly so much is gonna come out of this, what they've been charged with is just the start.
>>157977233Basically after the war in Ukraine broke out, the UK government rapidly manufactured a response to sanction Chelsea FC and force (Russian owner) Abramovich to sell to Americans, under spurious allegations that Abramovich was a "Putin supporter". The Americans have zero intention of investing wisely to allow Chelsea to compete, so they have won basically nothing in the past 4 years.But we all know that if Abramovich had owned Manchester United rather than Chelsea (which was very possible, Man Utd and Tottenham were two of the other clubs he considered buying in 2003), they would've found an excuse to not sanction him.
>>157977284>Whole league will be miles better off without an openly cheating clubIt's literally just gonna be Arsenal winning back-to-back-to-back for the next few seasons. Whenever their dominance starts winding down, a juiced-up Man Utd or Liverpool team will take their place.In 10 or 15 years time you'll have people looking back and asking "Why and when did English football get so boring?" and only then might you have some people finally starting to realise the nuclear-level response to Man City's charges probably had something to do with it.It's gonna be comparable to when Rangers went bust back in 2012 and turned the Scottish league into a laughable joke ever since.
>>157976964Lets be honest it was the exact same situation a week ago but with City in there too. We're you complaining then?
Red cartel chads, why can't we stop winning?
>>157977311>Why and when did English football get so boring?We already know the answer to that, it was when the whole thing became about money and therefore marketing to foreign customers.
>>157976983>City are a soulless, sham clubWell, yes, but so are the other three. If they had any soul, they wouldn't write pussy financial rules to ban any other teams from competing with them.
>>157977345Which began in 1992 btw. Not 2003 and certainly not 2008.
>>157977311City are the most boring and pointless club in the league though. Only appeal they ever had was not being man u in the 90s, should've stayed that way before bringing the game into severe disrepute.
>>157977368>City are the most boring and pointless club in the league thoughBut Fulham exist
>>157977357It was a slow burn which increased at pace in the 2000s with Chelsea and then City as notable catalysts. Granted the outcome was probably inevitable from 1992 and we have 5 different clubs to thank for that.
Ideally, the regulators would find a way to give smaller teams the chance of reaching the top, while also not allowing foreign billionaires to pick a random club to take over and throw obscene amounts of money at. Wigan, Reading or Walsall would be dominating the league if City's owners picked them instead.
>>157977372Personally I like Fulham, Boa Morte and Van der Sar are more memorable than any city player pre their cheating, and no city player since 2008 can be considered as relevant due to the charges.
It's either pure cope or bait. You can whine about the rules as much as you want. Most people would agree they're not the best in encouraging those lower down to get higher up and challenge the established clubs. But they're the rules. Everyone agreed to follow them. The natural extension of the cope is to say "they're all doing it!!!". Prove it then. As has been proven against this shitty, sham, tin pot club. City as a club will continue of course, but the brand is completely dead. It will always be known as a shitty, sham, tin pot club now.
>>157977494There's bending the rules though and inflating your clubs revenue by 100 mil a year, in theory not a single sponsor is valid if they're all just UAE linked assets. And paying additional salaries via said assets is so brazen. Unbelievable that the owners ever thought they'd get away with this. This also has bigger implications, were those refs doing work in the UAE influenced whilst there? If the owners can scam this openly and badly they're capable of anything. Anything less than complete expulsion from any league system and severe fines means the PL is dead.
>>157976964Keep crying bitch nigga
>>157977368>City are the most boring and pointless club in the league though. Only appeal they ever had was not being man u in the 90sThat always was their appeal and was what made them interesting.City were the authentic club of Manchester. The one supported solely by actual Mancs and not bandwagoners from London slumholes. All the actually talented Manc musicians (Joy Division, The Smiths, Oasis) supported City while obnoxious B-list celebs supported United.Even as a Chelsea fan who is generally pro-City I have to admit they lost a lot of that character in the Sheikh years, or even years before then when they demolished Maine Road.Now we are going to see things return to a pre-2008 or even pre-Etihad/CoMS reality for Man City. They will float somewhere below the PL in most seasons, win nothing, and be known mostly for having a bunch of funny fat northerner fans being drunk and obnoxious revelling in how hated they once were. There'll be some memeable photos of the Gallagher brothers getting rained on in the stands at Newport County away. United meanwhile will win another 10 titles over the next few decades. People will learn to hate Man U again just like we did in the 90s and 00s.
>>157977661>or even years before then when they demolished Maine Road.City of Manchester Stadium-era Man City was weird because you had a recently shite team playing in this massive stadium
>>157977938Yeah and it's weird how most people don't seem to even know that era existed. Like the average football fan nowadays believes Man City instantly jumped from playing Gillingham in the 3rd tier at Maine Road, to being in the Etihad owned by Arabs spaffing billions on players, over the course of about 1 or 2 seasons.So much of City's rise has just been memory-holed in the zoomer era. Most people on /sp/ probably don't know that neutrals unanimously celebrated Aguero's last minute winner in 2012 because City were still thought of as underdogs compared to arrogant, ref-intimidating Fergie Utd. Even Liverpool fans were celebrating. City weren't truly hated until Pep won his first title, before then people mostly saw them as playing second-fiddle to the true oil money villains which were Chelsea.
>>157976964>will become
>>157977074Yeah, I 100% agree that the "spend only as much as you can make rules" are bullshit devised to keep the big boy club small. While it is unsavory that a random sheik can come in and buy a league, we cant pretend thats already what the big teams are doing, but its fine because they've been doing it for longer? If you want to make it "fair" give every team a flat budget based on PL earnings, anything other than that is bound to be unfair one way or another.
>>157978585The only fair way to do it would be to have spending regulated purely on sporting merit.Tottenham finished 17th? They get fucked, they have a limit to how much they can spend in the following season as punishment for performing so bad.Crystal Palace perform above their station by winning the FA Cup? Now their spending level is raised and they should get a huge paycheck for winning the cup so that they can be rewarded with the opportunity to improve their team.
>>157978601It sounds good in practice, but with the ability to buy players, the ones doing better getting the most money only ensures they continue doing better than the rest and eventually you end up in a 1-2 team league anyway. There should be some financial windfall to winning things as incentive but it should be a very minor part of the cake
>>157978601How wont this just compound over time with well managed clubs solidifying as a new elite? Back to square one again.
>>157977100>The allegations have never been that "City invested so much nobody could ever compete with them" but rather that they circumvented the rules to allow themselves to invest amounts comparable to what Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are allowed to invest.Seems to me they evened the playing field and then beat everyone fair and square. How embarrassing for the "Big Four" cartel...
>>157978601Better idea, just do a consistent salary cap/floor that everyone has to live by and doesn't have special corrupt carve-outs for the favored teams.
>>157977041Do you honestly think the FA don’t have the power to rig the league to make it more exciting than that? If Newcastle winning is good for the league, Newcastle will have a chance to win it.
>>157977494I agree that what Man City did is corrupt, I just think the rules are also corrupt. It's complete bullshit to create a financial system for your league that blatantly favors three teams over the rest and makes it impossible to compete with them. Not even the NBA is this shameless with their eternal hard-on for the Lakers and Celtics. It seems to me like there's no reason to bother watching the Premier League at all outside of those teams and they'd much rather have bandwagon Liverpool fans in India and Nigeria than real fans of Newcastle or Aston Villa in England. But really, soccer in general has this problem and it's one of the many reasons it'll never catch on in America.
>>157977286Roman Abramovic is absolutely a Putin supporter. They’re literally friends. All Russian oligarchs are fans of Putin, or they wouldn’t be oligarchs. You must be completely mad or completely paid-off if you think otherwise.
>>157977420Lots of other clubs have been bought by billionaires and not had the same success. QPR and Cardiff spring to mind. Remember that Indian chicken company that bought Blackburn?
>>157980115This.Mikhail Khodorkovsky showed what happened if you're an oligarch but don't side with Putin. Perhaps by magic, Roman never shared his fate.
>>157977661The Stone Roses support Man Utd, you monumental gigapleb.
>>157978016The crazy thing is that they had two shady rich owners. Before the Abu Dhabi lot, there was Thaksin “Frank Sinatra” Shinawatra.
>>157980170>Remember that Indian chicken company that bought Blackburn?Venky's are still there and they're still shite.
Reminder that this entire "red cartel" seethe narrative is being pushed by almost entirely by Newcastle supporters.
>>157980269You're still upset over stag dos in Newcastle, aren't you.
>>157979942The whole problem with the top four in those days was that the money teams got for qualifying for the Champions League immediately put them above every other team. So they were completely untouchable and it was shit. Any changes to the rules will have to allow some level of bankrolling the smaller teams, but Man City did far more than that. They’re not in trouble for buying the league; they’re in trouble for massive criminal fraud and breaking the rules that did exist.
>>157976964True.Younger people here don't remember what it was like 20 years ago. Man United won EVERY season, sometimes Arsenal.Without Abramovitch it would have been like that forever, possible with United becoming even more dominant.
>>157980143>Portsmouth, Burnley, Ipswich, West BromYou can see why Americans rig their leagues to make this happen instead of what we have.
>>157980115>Roman Abramovic is absolutely a Putin supporter. They’re literally friends.Maybe years ago. Not anymore. Abramovich has stronger ties to Israel than he does to modern-day Russia.>You must be completely mad or completely paid-off if you think otherwise.Right, I'm "paid-off" cause I didn't want to see an entire football club ruined and sold off to predatory Yank owners all cause Boris wanted to do something to "stick it to heckin putin!!!" Mental.
>>157977133>Weee Woo Weee Woo Wee WooCitizen, do you know why I pulled you over?>should of>should’veLet me see your papers.I’ll let you off with a warning this time, but you need to be more careful out there, especially in front of our classy European friends.
>>1579770592000-2009 was absolute PL KINO... especially with THAT introhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5KiKEQ3pPE
>>157976964Matter of time until mlsization of most european leagues. They’re all way too corrupt.
i like how people have already forgot that was the entire point of the premier league in the first place.they originally weren't even going to have promotion/relegation from the first division (championship) they only begrudgingly relented at the last hour. it was the og super league.
>>157977059the worst era of english football ever, hate how mongs romanticise it.
>>157981319>In another timeline, Notts County v Luton Town was an opening day Super Premier League fixtureYikes
>>157980170Yeah but they spent fuck all. Not really sure what their game was.
>>157981475They just wanted a Premier League team. When they bought Blackburn they didn't even know you could get relegated from the PL.
>>157981475Just a good asset to have. You see this happen in American sports all the time, billionaires will buy these teams and make no effort at all to win because the teams are simply an investment.
>>157980351You really can't be a Russian oligarch unless you're friendly with Putin, it's kind of how the system works. It's like being a Chinese billionaire who isn't on good terms with the Chinese Communist Party, it's not an option. They'll simply arrest you and take all your shit.
Motherfuck the big three, nigga, it's just big me!
>>157981543Didn’t they also say they wanted to sign Pele? In about 2009? Sometimes I wonder how the rich get rich, because it can’t be through intelligence nor even through basic due diligence of their investments.
>>157976964>i cant follow financial doping rules like the other clubs do so i cant beat themKwab
>>157981599You cant be any type of oligarch anywhere and be against the respective deep state. This is why the epstein files are wreaking havoc.
>>157980341Blackburn rovers won, leeds was good, derby county would do ya in.
>>157980115>Roman Abramovic is absolutely a Putin supporterand? did abramovic kill any ukranians? did he voice his support for the russian army?
>>157976964>i-i-it's m-manchester u-united's fault that w-e h-had to c-c-c-cheat!!!! t-t-they f-forced us, w-w-we had no c-c-choice!!!!Time to face reality, your club is finished, you'll always be looked down on as a joke of a club, nobody in football will ever respect you, none of your wins will ever be considered legitimate and you'll ultimately be known as the biggest cheats in footballing history
>>157980143Preston North End shall inherit the earth
