>>> WEEK 7 AP TOP 25 <<<MIAMI #1 FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2002Others receiving votes:Oklahoma State 128, Oregon 79, Auburn 61, James Madison 52, Mississippi State 30, New Mexico 6, Oregon State 3https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
>Top 4 Miami vs Notre Dame still onIt doesn't get any more classic than this.
>no SEC in the top 4
>nahm sayin out for 3+ weeks>everyone acts like ohio state can coast through the rest of their schedule
>>158252507>3 votes for oregon stateBeaverbros, it’s our year
Promotion/relegation at the individual level is retarded but at the conference level, it would improve the quality of the game. At the end of each season, drop the two lowest FBS conferences to FCS for the next season and promote the top two FCS conferences to FBS.
>notre dame at number 4 There should be blood in the streets over this
>>158252628>that back archI'll be in my bunk.
>>158252507>UK ranked above Alabama & LSUWhat does the Monkey Paw have in store for us Cats fans?
>>158252637Immediately shut the fuck up
>>158252507>ND #4This is so when they play Miami, the winner is automatically #1 and the loser won't drop out of the top 10. It's bullshit that all rankings are mostly just for future rankings. CFB Playoff rankings are the same shit, but worse.
>>1582526708-4 I assume
>>158252670First round blowout loss to the G6 representative.
>>158252705I'll take it!
Anon in the last thread said Notre Dame has a better resume than Ohio state. I'm still laughing
OHHHHH SHIT
>>158252630well next week they're on a byeUSC's defense is still mondo assOregon is a shadow of what they once wereunironically the hardest game in there is Northwestern which is a month awaythey'll be fine
>>158252609also>UCLA ahead of Alabama, Texas, and LSU
>>158252762
Top 10 UCLA Bruins Football
>>158252580This generation of players makes Deion Sanders look like a shy, humble guy. They do a little dance after every play, throwing signs at the crowd. They brag after a TD even if they're down by 20.
multiple 3 loss teams will make the playoffs this year.
>>158252790>>158252762This was never up for debate though unlike country roads take me home which could be about Virginia and not west Virginia
>>158252630They'll lose to Michigan now that Carr is the starting QB.
>>158252507>byu beats the second best team in the nation (according to AP). >miami barely beats an unranked shitter. >byu is not number one. Isn't beating the second best team in the nation (according to AP) that would have been the best team in the nation (according to AP) had they have won worth anything?
Hello, where are the CFP rankings?
>>158252786grim, california doesn't even care about college ball
>>158252802>They brag after a TD even if they're down by 20.sometimes they do it for a fuckin first down lol
>>158252843Look at the OP, retard.
>>158252859Not the same thing pal
>>158252859I see AP in the OP. You get a bit confused boy?
>>158252507B1Gcels...SECissies....
>>158252802>>158252849They aren't playing for the team, but for themselves. All they care about is getting noticed to help their draft stock and probably to get laid by some sorority hole after the game.
>>158252637Go back to r*ddit you stupid fucking fag.
>>158252845The USC-UCLA game at the Rose Bowl could theoretically be a top ten matchup this year
>Miami #1 for the first time since 2002great, so we get to spend between now and their inevitable embarrassing loss hearing about how they got robbed in 2002.
>>158252843they dont start releasing those until nov 3
UCLA is the only team in the Big10 or SEC that is undefeated
>>158252922it's a shame Oregon's turned out to be dogshit. the best win UCLA's notched is probably Wisconsin now which isn't great.
>>158252834It comes up because Alabama plays it in their stadium. That their second biggest (and for some fans, biggest) rival is Tennessee makes it even funnier that Alabama uses it. Their cope is "well, the name of the band is Alabama" and "it's secretly about Alabama men going to Tennessee to fuck their women".
>>158252628
>>158252678>lose on the (second to) lasts second play in an acknowledged screw job>on the road against a top 10 opponent in their biggest home game of all time>at a point in the season where everyone has spilled their spaghetti >this must be collusion among hundreds of disparate people planning for an outcome a month in advance that they conveniently all share
>>158252802
>>158252834Also heard that it's about Maryland.
>>158252955top zoz
>>158252947Wisconsin would've been #25 if the voters last week changed their ballots just a bit
>Missouri still ranked
cant wait for the 24 team playoff so we debate which 5 loss team should make it in over a 4 loss team
NEXT WEEK: SHIT BOWL1-6 HAWAII vs 0-6 NIUWho do you have?
>>158252994they buttpounded Florida and Florida is ranked
>>158252906This is also BYU's highest ranking since the 1984 natty year
>everyone hates how rankings are done and bitches it isn't done <random arbitrary way>>bitches about a playoff that solves all those problems for any teams that matter
>>158252849That's honestly baffling. Imagine these twinks playing college ball at the same time as Ray Lewis, Sean Taylor or Roy Williams. >>158252895It doesn't help now that they transfer to a different team at the end of every year.
>>158253001Imagine how fucking stupid you have to be to be thinking this. A 24 team team playoff makes more and more sense by the day. The rankings are clearly more correlated to how easy your schedule is than how good you are. Notre dame at 4 lol
>>158253027My problem with the Playoff Rankings is that they're clearly lying to us. The "committee" doesn't do anything. They don't rank shit, they don't watch a single game, and they have ZERO input.
>>158253037That's exactly why we don't need a playoff system. Encourage teams to actually play someone during the regular season.
3 teams from the Big XII will make it into the CFP.
>>158253004NIU. For Hawaii, that's a 9am game, after a long trip to get to Illinois.
>>158252637Pro/Reg is the singular only way to save the sport and people are retarded and scared if they can't prove their worth on the field vs staying in the top tier when you go 2-8 in conference each year because you joined in 1945 or something
>>158252507Why is Texas still ranked?
>>158253063nta, but people don't like change and will ALWAYS use the excuse of "muh rivalries" like they still can't schedule it every year for one of their OOC games.
>>158253063Fuck off redditor. We aren’t doing that shit
>>158252970oh yeah, well *smacks lips*
>>158253063Swiss tournament but would require massive changes to conference system, and conferences currently run the show
>muh relegationEurofags need to permanently fuck off.
>>158253101But we are doing 64 team playoffs soon which is even more Reddit.
they really don't know how the fuck to vote wake lmao
>>158253054and what's your gripe with this weeks rankings? they seem totally fair to me
>>158253060what a time to be alive
>>158253131>NOOOOOO WE NEED RUTGERS AND ARKANSAS TO BE SHITTERS IN THE TOP CONFERENCES FOREVER
>>158253101he's right but you're too obsessed with MUH TRUHDISHUN to realize it
>>158253131this, fuck all pro/rel faggots and fuck foreign soccer shit
>>158253073Poll inertia
>>158253172>caring about "conference strength"You've been so mind raped by ESPN retardation that you should probably just kill yourself.
>>158253161These rankings don't really matter. If I had to pick something, who has TT beaten? They have one good win and that's it. Why does that qualify you to be ranked in the Top 10?
>>158253172A couple of years ago you would have been saying that about Northwestern and Kentucky.
>>158253205buddy you completely missed his point. cut back on the drinking friend
>16 game conference winning streak>very little signs of regression after coaching/roster change >7-0>unranked>Arizona on bye>moves into rankingsDo voters even watch the games
>>158253073archie/espn bias keeps their rank inflated
>>158253117Conferences are going to die soon in the 24 team playoff era, to be replaced with schools making deals themselves and long term agreements to play other schoolsWhy would Ohio State share all that revenue equally with Rutgers and Purdue when they can make more on their own and schedule top level opponents if they have a 4-5 game clearance to make playoffs?Enough just have to agree to go independent and play each other each year and the final result will happen. All teams for themselves, no propping up that you joined SEC in 1930 so you get as much as Georgia in revenue
>>158253218at this point all the "good" teams have been choking shitters one way or another
>>158253117What is a swiss tournament?
>2. BYU (20 first-place votes)
>>158253218they're a beneficiary of this weekends carnage in the top 10
>>158253231they literally do not. some dude forgot miami existed on his ballot two weeks ago
>>158253231Sincerely how the fuck does James Madison keep doing it?They got pillaged for coaches and players yet again and are still going undefeated in the Sun Belt
>>158253291remember the female voter last year that ranked florida higher after they lost to USF?
>>158253238Been saying this for years, even without playoff expansion. Once media rights ballooned, conferences are relying on the haves subsidizing the have nots indefinitely
>>158253172Indiana was a shitter for like 100 fucking years getting buttfucked by Ohio St, Penn St, and Michigan every year and now they're defending National Champions and pushing to make another strong run. This how the sport works and if you don't like it watch something else.
I missed the other threads. What did /cfb/ think of this? Apparently he "assaulted" the trainer and it sounds like he's about to be off the team.
>>158253275BYU being ranked below Miami is an absolute fucking joke
>>158253340kid's a moron. even in middle school we knew not to get in the way when someone was hurt
>>158253260I don't know. I read the wiki on it and still don't understand
>>158253340players should be suspended for shoving people not in pads
>>158253260Basically a dynamic schedule in blocks, where teams move up and down tiers within the season based on performance. Everything could be organized regionally
>>158253372he didn't fucking shove her. she shoved him.
>>158253223There's always going to be bottom feeders. Doesn't matter if the Big 10 kicks Rutgers out for the top performing MAC team or whoever, that MAC team will just become the new bottom feeder getting ass blasted by top of the conference. Particularly now where these lower level schools can't hold onto any quality players. Pro/Rel wouldn't solve a fucking thing. It just be putting slightly more money into a different shit program who doesn't have the means to compete against the top of the nation. You fucking retards need to shut the fuck up.
>>158253396Bullshit show the webm it was here all day yesterday
>>158253396>shoved
>>158253322In a pro/reg system Indiana would have moved up insanely quickly to become contendersIn the current system if Indiana was in Big 12 by chance would they have had that option at all?
>>158253396lmao
>>158253291>journalists>>158253307The previous AD, Jeff Bourne, dedicated 25 years of his life to elevate JMU athletics from C tier D1 FCS school into a winning FBS program with solid non-rev sports to boot. Secured funding from alumni (lots of defense contractors + Carmax) and local industry (chicken farms) for a solid revenue stream. Poured money into facilities while also being a genuis at scouting coaching talent. 2 FCS natties under his tenure that eventually led to Cig being hired (because he upset us while at Elon) and finally executing the move to FBS. Chesney was his 2nd to last hire, with his own successor at AD being hand picked. Billy was outside our normal hiring criteria, but chosen for his prior success at ULL. Was skeptical, but holy shit it worked.
>>158253396poor wittle D1 football athlete in pads and a helmet bawwww
>>158252786UCLA is extremely overranked, they’re a probable top 20 team that hasn’t played anyone worth a shit
>>158252630northwestern is the only hard game on there and he'll probably be back for that
pure self-defense. he had to shove his team's athletic trainer
>>158253340>don't put yo hands on me ever again you ginger bitch I'll knock yo ass out
>>158253399>Pro/Rel wouldn't solve a fucking thingwell then we simply disagree
>>158253307I mean they play in the fun belt, it's not a very serious conference when you think about it
>>158252630I sense an uh oh stinky coming in the Northwestern game, USC could trip them up too
ND should be #2 behind BYU, miami almost lost to a trash FSU
Man Wake up Barstool is gonna be lit tomorrow
>>158253474USC got shredded by Dylan notMahomes, osu will be fine
>>158253492I really don't understand why BYU isn't #1 right now outside poll inertia
>>158253447Remember when UCF was tearing up the American and then got "promoted" to a power 4 conference? Yeah, how's that worked out for them. TCU jumped up 14 years ago and have only had 4 years where they weren't mid tier or worse. So first of all, you can play yourself into getting into a power 4 conference already and secondly, we have multiple examples of it not increasing the quality of play.
>>158253492my longhorns should be #1 because they are the only team with a win over the Top 3
>>158252507There are like 3 teams below Miami with a better resume kek what is this
>>158253340Typical black behavior; they can't handle authority. It's why they can't comply with police orders.
>>158252637Faggot.
>>158253577
>>158253565NTA but UCF and TCU would have then been brought down a tier again until they are ready to compete, instead of now just clogging up P4 spots forever because they were invited at one pointYeah teams would yoyo but that's the whole point, they only would stay up if they are worthy of doing so and can compete
>>158252507>#4 Notre DameI didn't think my hate for them could go any higher, yet here we are. Fuck you, you fucking frauds.
>>158253587Don't worry, they'll choke this week against Pitt as is tradition.
>>158253565>precovid example>example of a school that was literally in a natty game three years agonigga what
>>158253600yuo seem to be jealous of my harrns, sir
>>158253604#3 to #7 are frauds to be fair
>>1582535873 might be lowballing, fucking UCLA has a more impressive resume
>>158253396
>>158253565lol you just cited a team that has a winning record in the conference. their promotion woud have worked EXACTLY as intended and is if anything a case in which the system has worked. lol what kind of dumbass would use that as evidence of the opposite?
>>158253602The point is constantly playing musical chairs to constantly swap some "coveted" spot in a power conference isn't going magically make competition in those conferences better. We've seen this with Cincinnati, Utah, UCF, Houston, TCU, etc. Schools from the lower conferences just don't have the facilities and means to compete consistently with the big dicks schools running the sport. Replacing Rutgers with JMU isn't going to do fucking anything other than probably making JMU worse.
>>158253723kek
>>158253740nobody thinks it's magic m7. just gives more chances for the best teams to compete against other teams that are likely the best. you're somehow over and under thinking this at the same time.
>>158253604>openly declaring that you're delusionally butthurt for the millionth time
>>158252653The problem with ND is more poll inertia than anything, they’re were wildly overranked before the BYU game and you can’t drop them that much for losing to the #2 team in a game that went to the wire
>>158253431This is going to be a thing for super conferences. UCLA somehow dodged Ohio State, Indiana, Iowa, and Northwestern this season. They obviously have USC (also overranked). They may get into the playoffs and will get their dicks blown off and will go 7-5 next year when their schedule isn't soft as baby shit. 2025's version of this was Texas A&M, and look at them now.
>>158253740>isn't going magically make competition in those conferences betterit literally is though. if jmu can do what they're doing and indiana can do what they're doing you're just being willfully obtuse
>>158253788>wildlylol
>>158253728Who gives a fuck about winning record. TCU has only had 4 seasons out of 14 where they had less than 4 losses. They're trying to get bowl eligible more then they are competing for a conference title.
Miami lost to FSU. I watched FSU score two touchdowns in two straight plays to end the game and that's not even a fraction of the blatant refballing. Why are they ranked 1st? There's no doubt they will get heemed by several teams this year.
>>158253823>Who gives a fuck about winning record...the...entire sport? what point are you even trying to make?
>>158253740Rutgers is famously incompetent with the $80m a year they get from the BIG10, JMU would be better with that money
>>158253647OSU aren't frauds. They didn't have their best O-lineman, a RB, Sayin played like absolute shit, and they still beat Indiana at home.
>>158253823you're confused. pro/rel isn't solely for teams who regularly compete for conference titles. you harping on that repeatedly suggests confusion, and your suggestion that a team in the top half of a tier from which you'd restrict their access is even dumber. you should have thought this through even briefly before trying to talk shit.
>>158253835>Miami lost to FSUsource?
pro/reg faggots need to be shot on sight. It's never going to happen. It's silly to even fucking talk about. A waste of time. How about this, we'll just acknowledge you're some worldly nigga who watches foreign soccer leagues and give you flowers about how cultured you are and we can just move on to more pressing matters. Sound good?
>>158253787Everyone hates you. Notre Dame hasn't won a top 10 game on the road since 2012. Absolute frauds.
>>158253881howd they do the last time they got to the playoffs?
>>158253898They lost
>>158253879Eyes. The final score is actually 47-43 FSU. Everyone saw it, my guy.
>>158253908and what elese? you're saying there are 137 frauds every year?
>>158253856We're talking about improving the "quality" of a conference. TCU has been just barely over .500 for 8 of those 14 years. That's not improving shit.
>>158253933Yes. No participation trophy for you, if you ain’t first you’re last
24-team doomers need to be shot on sight. It's never going to happen. It's silly to even fucking talk about. A waste of time. How about this, we'll just acknowledge you're some panican nigga who watches NFL football and give you flowers about how fearful you are and we can just move on to more pressing matters. Sound good?
>>158253949that is literally by definition improving it vs. whoever would've been in their place at the bottom. it's shocking that you could make that mistake
>>158253835You do know those scores would have only put them 2 points behind. They wouldn't have been walk off TD's
>>158253835Kek did this really happen? I might have to go back and rewind the tape and watch again
>>158253949>There's always going to be bottom feeders????are you having a medical emergency? should we call an ambulance?
>>158253977original anons was funnier. nice attempt though.
>>158253977kek
>>158253960lel i seem to remember having a blast winning a home playoff game while you were boiling in your moms basement.
>>158253982Then we are on opposite sides of the river. Improving the quality of the conference to me means you're adding somebody who's going to consistently compete at a high level. Not somebody who's getting dogwalked by the top teams and barely squeaking by.
>>158254014i was in your moms basement. clapping those flappy cheeks.
>>158254039>Not somebody who's getting dogwalked by the top teams and barely squeaking by.i agree, the SEC should be disbanded
>>158253835The ohioim have gone insane.
>>158252507Northwestern would obliterate half of these shit teams
Hey man, can you bread bakers quit being dumb faggots and linking previous in the OP. Shit has been fucking awful this season.
>>158254039that's numerically impossible, and you've completely misunderstood the whole point of all this. you're making shocking logical errors. A team in the middle of the distribution is better than a team at the bottom of it. Running that same competitive shuffle year after year is the most likely way to distribute higher quality alongside higher quality and lower alongside lower. I don't even want pro/rel in the sport and it's not a realistic thing anyway, but all of your arguments have actually been retarded.
>>158253987New rules: they scored 6, twice. That's 12 points. Need 8 to tie. Point being it was an obviously rigged outcome (without going into the other non calls like UM holding on the fumble recovery), so why are voters not taking this in to account? FSU was a better team all night, game went to OT bc of egregious refballing (don't sue the ACC, this is what you get). I guess pollsters really do not watch the game, because call it whatever you want but that game was rigged and UM is clearly not the best team in the nation, regardless of record. They will get KWABd so badly when they play a real team and don't have ACC refs. It is what it is, just shitty to watch this sport sometimes.
>>158254050nobody believes you could get your soft little dingding past your gut
>>158252609>Self Ending Conference
I thought Texas was a bad #1 team but Miami?KWAB
>>158253991Yeah man it was the egregious screw job I've ever seen in football
Listen, if we could go back to 5 top conferences of retaliative equal size and no national championship I absolutely would. But the sport is changing and conferences and "p2 conferences" and bowls and so on are antique and obsolete. Look right now the top 2 are not even from the P2, why should they exist if Miami and BYU are left out because they were not chosen to be in 20 years ago before they became the P2?You changed the sport so much with this 24 team playoffs and megaconferences with no regional variability that you made it so pro/reg is not a far off proposal. You are not blowing up "muh traditional and history" because there is none left when USC is playing Rutgers in the Big 10 and the Rose Bowl is going to be Miami vs Georgia
>>158253588That’s based though. White people will just pay taxes for nothing and be monitored by flock cameras and still have pro social attitudes. Blacks are unironically correct about how the state should be handled. Don’t respect their “authority”
>>158254123It's been proven already that it doesn't work like that. You're living in a fucking fantasy land of hypotheticals and hopes and dreams. These teams who make the jump have proven that they don't make the conference better. TCU is the most successful team to make the jump to a power conference in the last 20 years and they've been under .500 in conference play the majority of the time. What are YOU basing your assumption upon that promotions/relegations would increase parity and quality of play. How about you provide your fucking facts to the argument instead of just saying "not uh" when presented with the numerous teams who haven't done what you keep saying will totally happen.
>>158254103Request denied
>>158254258>It's been proven already that it doesn't work like thatfunny you seem to be the only one with access to this proof
>>158254258>TCU is the most successful team to make the jump to a power conference in the last 20 yearsThat would be Texas though
3 wins over #1 this season :)
>>158253835Not to mention that fumble where the FSUkid couldn't recover it because he was basically tackled from behind with the ball.
>>158254258where was that proven? it's never been attempted in the sport, and it's done the opposite of what you're claiming in every sport where it was implemented.
People spent all week weeping about the playoff expansion and pining for the BCS days. Meanwhile under a BCS system right now we’d be hurtling towards a natty matchup of Miami vs the Big 12 champ. A narrower playoff field doesn’t make sense in a sport where the portal and NIL has diffused the talent to much wider range of schools.
>>158253864They lost to fucking 117th best QB in the nation Arch Manning LMAO there is no way to justify them as anything but frauds
>>158254297It's not that hard to look up what teams have made the jump from G6 to the P4.
>>158254429...so you agree we have absolutely zero evidence of what promotion and relegation would look like in the NIL era
>>158253650>UCLA has a more impressive resumeIn fact, they have the most impressive resume.
>>158254368Yep. There wasn't a hold called all game either til the end, which wasn't a hold just a pancaked DL who kinda fell down on his own. Several uncalled facemasks and helmet to helmets as well. It was a sham, most disgusting shit I've ever seen in a football game.
>>158254401Oh, the good old classic "true communism hasn't been tried" argument. We've seen multiple teams make the jump to power conferences and they haven't done anything and most are sucking shit at the bottom of the conference. But you're right, you specific idea hasn't been tried so nothing is remotely comparable. What a wonderful convenient stance to have.
The Solution>64 team "FBS">2 Leagues of 32 teams>Each league has 4 divisions of 8 teams>You must win your division to get into the 8 team playoff or the top 2 move on for a 16 team playoff whatever you like>non serious shitters fuck off
>>158252955Wwwwwwhaaaaaaaaaaaaleeee
>>158254481/cfb/ approved ranking
>>158254258who said anyting about parity? this guy is really just short circuiting
>>158254410I'm not even pining for the BCS daysI'm pining for the days we all agreed a sport with 120+ schools where they only play 12 games a year can't have a definite national champion and people were happy when they beat their rivals
>>158253061Not even good illinois, fucking rockland
>>158254501>Oh, the good old classic "true communism hasn't been tried" argument. that's not a good analogy. A handful of teams moving up to conferences below super conferences isn't the same thing as merit-based promotion year after year. Obviously.And again,
>>158254519Says the retard who can't even provide one single iota of proof of what he's saying. Nice deflection though.
>>158254501>you specific idea hasn't been tried so nothing is remotely comparablethat's how testing works bro. how do you think we figure shit out as a species?
>>158254410Truke. Imagine a texas tech vs miami national championship game.both teams legitimately probably not top 10 teams in reality. We can no longer reward having an easy schedule above all. It’s so retarded
>>158254541>moving teams from g6 to p4 will improve play>none of these teams that have moved from g6 to p4 have improved play>nononon that' doesn't count it's totally different and not comparablewew lads
>>158254501And again, this literally has been tried for decades in a ton of leagues. i'm the one with data who supports the claim. you're the one who's trying to claim at a team with a .534 winning percentage is somehow not better than a bottom feeder with an inferior record.
>>158254423Yeah they had a bad quarter early in the season. Doesn't make them frauds.
Maryland has fired their Defensive Coordinator. In order to fire him the University had to pay him 500K. AD Jim Smith thanked the coordinator for his time and effort up to this point and praised Locksley for making moves that will help the team finish strong while pushing for a bowl bid.
>>158254565>none of these teams that have moved from g6 to p4 have improved playyou keep saying this without any evidence of any kind. tcu was in the national fucking championship before harbaugh left
>>158254568TCU is a bottom feeder in conference more than they aren't. That win record was inflated by one good year.
>>158254546every single soccer league>>158254565I can't tell if you're actually retarded or just obtuse. If you're above .500 you're literally, verifiably, unequivocally providing higher quality to your conference than any random team at the bottom of the distribution. I'm not sure how that's something you're so willing to debate. It's actually insane
>>158254610And what about Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Utah, Boise State, and the other 3-4 I can't remember?
>>158254613>noooo you can't look at all-time record, you have to only look at the years they're bad. then you'll see that they're actually bad
>>158253835Holy cope LMFAAAAOOOOO
>>158254632they're all also better than when they were in lower leagues. how did you think that was a good response lmao
>>158254619>every single soccer leaguekek>>158254619>I can't tell if you're actually retarded or just obtuse. If you're above .500 you're literally, verifiably, unequivocally providing higher quality to your conference than any random team at the bottom of the distribution. I'm not sure how that's something you're so willing to debate. It's actually insaneTake a gander at TCU's record while in the Big 10. They're literally under .500 for the majority of the years they've played there.
>>158254528Based>>158254550>Imagine a texas tech vs miami national championship game.both teams legitimately probably not top 10 teams in reality.This is based, too, though. All the supposed "real" top 10 teams can go cry about it.
>>158254640Thanks for letting me know you're just shitposting.
>>158254660okay? but they are still above 500 and even by your own standard are generally mid-tier in the years that you've cherrypicked. They are definitionally doing more for the quality of the conference than the worst teams in the conference.
>>158254681you're doing your best, sadly
>>158254550Having an SEC schedule is an easy schedule too, as that whole conference has established in the field that they all suck, so I don’t know what point you’re even trying to make. Should we just scrap the whole season? Would that make your butthole pucker less?
>>158254712>says the nigger who's pretending to not understand the conversation
>got really drunk watching the saarhorns and i*ish lose >been having mega shits all day Glad I installed a bidet yesterday morning. Changed my life.
>>158254739i understand it. I'm trying to argue based on literally every game they've played as an equally weighted data point. You are struggling to justify excluding some because it doesn't suit the point you've already decided you can't concede.
>>158254660>They're literally under .500 for the majority of the years they've played therethen why would you be mad that they drop down to the second shelf?
>>158254651No they're not. Most of those teams had season were they were highly ranked before making the jump. None of have had the same level of success since. Are you niggers lying on purpose or just ignorant?
>bunch of casuals arguing about college football like we're still in 2011
>>158254750They're calling me Bum Farto.
>>158254660>noooo the idea of rewarding quality teams and punishing bad ones is different in this sport just because it's different! i said so!!!!!!
>>158254648Cope? It's all on video, I'm just stating the truth and you're replying like a 12 year old. It was already a lost season for FSU, the entire fanbase still wants their coach fired and no one is happy with the state of football in Tallahassee, but it's not coping to call a spade a spade. It's just crazy and sad what's become of CFB. Saw the same thing with Auburn vs UGA yesterday, but the zebras couldn't finish off the best team in football. Double OT in a game when the team is a 21 pt dog, no one expected a close game, to even be close let alone stolen is just depressing for ball. My life goes on either way though and there is no doubt it will all come tumbling down tumbling down for UM at some point this season
>>158254757You're taking an outlier and saying that's proof that they've been a quality team the whole time. That's not how it works. Mike Norvell isn't a good coach just because he has a winning record at FSU.>>158254762Missing the entire point there.
>>158254766AAC cincinnati would be winless with their 2026 schedule, i still don't know what point you think you're making
>>158253238Probably will happen. Streaming makes it easier to have a direct connection between the school and its fans while other media technology makes it easier for individual programs to produce the game coverage themselves. Even if they were to contract that out, having a production crew you hired for that task is different than selling the rights to a company that then produces the content.The question is who will do it first? Texas was a couple of decades ahead of things with the Longhorn Network, so it was mostly a flop. Each year more people cut the cord and become more comfortable with using streaming. At some point that becomes the majority of the viewers. I'm guess is there's going to be that one last round of realignment and new contracts in 2030 but after that individual programs will break away to control their own production.
>>158254766buddy they were highly ranked because they were playing shittier teams, not because they were better. That's literally the point, to figure out where they actually stand in the spectrum. how do you not get this?
>>158254826>Missing the entire pointso please tell me what's so awful about a winless top-tier team dropping down to be replaced with one that wants to play against top shelf opponents then
>>158254826i didn't take the outlier, YOU brought up TCU specifically because you didn't realize they were refuting your point because you didn't understand what people were saying. lmao
Computers would have the ducks ranked in the top 15 but the AP doesn’t even have them in the top 25. The AP is pure faggotry.
>>158252678retarded take. if everybody else took care of business yesterday notre dame wouldn't have stayed up as high. their loss was the best loss of the day because even indiana still lost to a team that had already lost. there are only miami, ucla, and three big 12 teams left undefeated and miami and byu were automatically top 2 so if ucla wasn't top 5 and nobody is rating texas tech and utah then you've gotta slot them in with the rest of the one loss teams. they don't have a win as good as ohio state even if their loss was better but they're very comparable hence 3-4. georgia lost to an unranked team and indiana has no good wins outside of northwestern and also hasn't looked good. it really didn't matter what was done there were going to be arguments but the way the poll shook out i personally am fine with outside of byu should be #1 and ucla probably should be in the top 5. everything else makes enough sense.
>>158254890FUCK computers
>>158254890ranked or rated? there's a difference.
>>158254899>there are only miami, ucla, and three big 12 teams left undefeatedJMU is undefeated
>>158254722The SEC is 11-2 vs P4 opponents retard. SEC superiority has been proven on the field. SEC teams losing to other SEC teams only confirms that it’s the deepest conference
>>158254845How do you not get that nobody in that lower league is going to make the jump. That's the fucking point retard. We've got decades of teams making the jump that haven't suddenly and magically turned into a powerhouse program or even consistently good program. The ENTIRE FUCKING ARGUMENT is about how these "good" G6 teams just become low level teams in their new conferences so the entire idea is fucking fantasy based on nothing but hopes and what happens in completely different sports. Holy shit you retards are fucking stupid.
>>158254930No there isn’t. A ranking is just ordering the ratings. You and josh pate don’t know what the words mean
>>158254878I knew exactly who they are. YOU are the retard that knows fucking nothing about them other than they had one miracle year recently before fading back into irrelevancy.
>>158253063even if there was an upswell of support for this it will never ever happen. for that reason please shut the fuck up about this forever.
>>158255000>suddenly>magically>powerhouseagain you're using words that nobody else did that make it clear that you're confused. it's simply merit-based positioning of teams with teams most likely to be at their quality, over time giving access to the top to anyone who earns it. it's that simple. You have no clue what argument you're even trying to argue against, you're just seething and looking stupid repeatedly.
>>158255000>nobody in that lower league is going to make the jumpjust like indiana would NEVER win a natty
>>158255008that's incorrect. because one is based on what you've earned with outcomes, and the other is predictive. i always lol when pate has to teach kindergarten shit like this to a barely literate and logically stunted population of hicks who refuse to be educated.
>>158252507This is honest to god the worst top 25 I have ever seen in my fucking life
>>158253218there are only 5 undefeated teams left and like two of them have wins worth a shit. they're in and around the top ten by default.
>>158255117the 2000s were so much fun dude. i'm sorry you weren't around to see them
>>158255038TCU is 66-50 in the big 12 since joining. If we took away half a conference season of wins because you don't want to count their miracle year that is apparently completely skewing their ATR, what would their conference winning percentage be?
You faggots are gonna have nothing to argue about next year when 24 teams get in kek
>>158255117zoomer detected
CFB simply needs more parity. Most people get extremely tired seeing the same fucking teams winning championships or even in the playoff. This happens with all sports, CFB isn't immune to this.
>>158255111Nope. Look up the definition of a ranking or rating. You won’t find anything specifying what the criteria should be for either. You could have resume rankings, and neutral site rankings. Or resume ratings and neutral site ratings
>>158253798Which will set up a potential feast for the G6 auto qualifier if they get paired up against a P4 fraud with a baby soft schedule.
>>158255212damn if only there were a way to recognize that they are jargon with a specific meaning in this context that is widely used
>pro regHave you guys worked out how conference share of money works when a team leaves and one comes in? what about the NIL. I play on a G6 shitter and get pro'ed into the SEC or B1G, shouldn't I begin making a comparable "salary" if I'm going to get my dick knocked in by the big dogs rather than getting $1000 bucks from the pizza joint and car dealership. How does all that work? Let's say Arkansas get reg'ed down, everyone worth a shit would just go to the team pro'ing up?
>>158255240that's why it will never happen. it's not really appropriate for conferences and it basically violates all the incentive for the people holding the revenue cards at the moment.
>>158255240>conference share of moneyplease tell me why i should give half a fuck what happens to some stuffed suit in a strip mall office who makes seven figures to to "administer" a "conference." be specific, use real throughputs.
>>158254957Grats on a bunch of wins over shitty ACC and Big 12 teams like Kansas, Arizona State, Baylor, NC State, Clempus and Georgia Tech
>>158255285because they're the ones who make decisions on how this is going to work. how old are you?
>>158255210One of the dumbest takes lol. CFB is already verging on having too much parity. Having less parity is one of the things which differentiates CFB from the NFL. The more we become like the NFL the less relevant college football will be.The NFL is emotionless as fuck because the outcome of any game is not really surprising. Whereas in college football we have things like vandy beating Alabama and shocking the nation and people literally losing their minds and storming the field etc. you would be a fool to kill these moments by introducing too much parity.
>>158255270>that's why it will never happenwas my point. easy to say well this team should move up and this one should move down, but if you don't address the money and business it's not an earnest discussion and just a circle jerk. guys, we get it. you watch soccer.
>>158255313>they're the ones who make decisionsbro you're almost there. one more step...WHY are they the ones who make decisions?
>>158255334i know that was your point I was agreeing with you.
>>158255238I don’t accept your retarded gibberish. Explain what you are saying correctly. Words have definitions for a reason
>>158255351because colleges like to secure their own bag and in search of that have signed contracts with other colleges. you think you're a few steps ahead here but you're just being naive
>>158255322NFL doesn't have parity you retard. It had ONE team dominate for more than a decade and now you have the Chiefs. Nobody fucking likes that shit. Nobody liked watching Alabama assrape CFB for what seemed like an eternity. Nobody likes knowing that every year you can pencil Ohio State and Georgia into the playoff before the season even starts. It's boring as all hell.
>>158255357>noooo jargon isn't a thinglel nobody cares if you "accept" it. you get laughed at for yelling at clouds and being obtuse, trying to sound superior when you're just being an idiot.
>>158255405the biggest spread in any given NFL week is often single digits.
>>158255393>colleges like to secure their own bagalright we're almost there, stay with me. why should we keep the status quo when the status quo only benefits schools that were in power two generations ago?
>>158255352i know anon, i was talking to the faggots in the thread. you're a man who understands.
>>158255149I don't even know how it works this year.
>>158254481
>>158255440non-sequiturAt least TRY to stay on topic.
>>158254368>>158254492
>>158255443>weyou're pretending to have a seat at the table sweetie. you don't. What party with any sort of agency here has incentive to institute pro rel? Your leverage is literally being one out 50 million people who need to stop watching. That's all you've got.
>>158253340Post a video of it.
>>158255492>a quantifiable demonstration of competitive balance is a non-sequitur when discussing competitive balancethis is the dumbest general
>>158255499>well sure things would be better if everybody agreed and did something about it but the bad system has been in place as long as i can remember!you were literally born to be a slave. holy fuck
>>158255405>the nfl doesn’t have parity Okay retard you’re truly retarded. I shouldn’t even talk to you after you say this. The patriots dynasty was not because they are so much more stacked than other teams. It was because they played in a conference with the dolphins, bills, and jets. All of which were dogshit for this whole time. Which means they got an auto bid to the playoffs. And then they had a good QB and good defenses. So they won a lot. It CFB remains this unfair we will see schedule merchants like Miami and Notre Dame have dyansties as well. The normie brain can’t conceive of the statistical nature of wins and losses and that the best team often does not win.
>>158255117>Say hello to my lil' friend
>>158255541based freedom fighter. what do we do next, comrade? How do we usurp power in collegiate athletics?
I have an idea>B10 and SEC break off to form their own division>conference championships are done in playoff format (top seven seeds get in, #1 seed gets a bye)>B10 and SEC conference champs play against each other in a big bowl game (call it the Giga Bowl or something)>winner is the CFB champion
>>158255508it's in the OP of an old thread that's still in the catalog
>>158255553>It was because they played in a conference with the dolphins, bills, and jetsthe boundless gray-area cheating/"not technically" cheating helped. not that a decent christian man like robert kraft would ever do anything unwholesome!
>>158255529What do week-by-week point spreads have to do with the fact the Patriots dominated the NFL for over a decade and everyone hated it? Same with the Chiefs now and Bama during the dynasty.>>158255553So the fact the Patriots were guaranteed to win the division basically every year they had Brady BEFORE the season even started is an example of having parity? Are you stupid or trolling?
>>158255285>i should give half a fuck what happensif you're advocating for pro-reg, then you'd have to present a system that would satisfy powerful people within the current system ($$$) to change to what you're advocating. that's just how the world works, kid.
>>158255418Enjoy explaining your made up definitions of words forever because I will forever need clarification when you act like you can just use words incorrectly
>>158255471Notable that CUSA is the only G6 without a loss to an FCS team.
>>158255575>How do we usurp power in collegiate athleticsfunny enough if like two schools refused to play for a year it would change immediately and the entire ecosystem would realize how fraudulent disney's hold on this thing actually is. but i'm daydreaming again!
>>158255508https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vGXMrxJkTt4Don't touch me bro.
>>158254528here you are again talking about a world that literally hasn't existed since 1935. a world none of us grew up in, our fathers never grew up in, and our grandfathers most likely never grew up in. every school has been bitching about natty tallies and how they are awarded since they came out in 1936 and not because they didn't want natties, it's because they did and they wanted a fair system. every time you come around with this bullshit you are presenting a completely disingenuous argument that has never had any basis in reality.
>>158255613well first of all, parity is a measurement of quality distribution. So the answer to why point spreads might indicate that is self-evident. Moreover, you're referencing a period of time "dominated" by teams that lost more often than they won.
>>158255591Won't happen because then Ohio State wouldn't get their mandatory free 10-11 wins every year against shitters in their own conference.
>>158255620>that's just how the world works, kidgood goy. stay subservient and never question the almighty israeli state <3
>>158254550>nobody is a real top ten team
>>158255668You think the Patriots during the Brady dynasty lost more games than they won? Okay, you're definitely trolling. Nobody can be that fucking stupid.
>>158255613Relative to college football the NFLs parity does not need demonstration. If you are smart enough to tie your shoes you must admit the NFL has parity and kneel to me and apologize for your previous statement
>>158255632well it would have to be two of the more influential schools, and they don't actually have incentive to do that. and I wouldn't be so confident that it would immediate change the ecosystem, it's more likely to limp along at 95% of what it would have been with them in place. So you want two schools to shoot themselves in the foot to appease you for an outcome that you may have overestimated. I'd say that you are indeed day dreaming again.
>>158255647I mean he is a retarded nog, but that does not seem like a big deal.
>>158255723>what's that? sacrifice requires SACRIFICE? well no wonder everyone in the west obeys israel at every turn!
>>158255702obviously not. They did not win the championship more often than they won it (so there's no ambiguity). Contrast that with yuropoor soccer leagues.
>>158254948nobody cares about jmu and they never will.
>>158255754>someone else needs to sacrifice so i can be happier with my sportsthe intersection of /cfb/ and /pol/ produces some of the dumbest people
>>158255706So you're saying the NFL had parity when the Browns played in 10 straight championship games? Goddamn, you people are unbelievably stupid.>>158255760Not what you said. You said they lost more than they won. You didn't say anything about championships. Moving the goalposts. I accept your concession.
>>158255744Yes I agree.
>>158255760good point bro. every nfl team regularly wins 6 out of 18 super bowls. lmao
>>158255790yes "lost more than they won" was ambiguous so I'm really deeply sorry. But when it gets clarified, you need to move along or risk looking nitpicky and desperate.
>>158255785>someone else needs toyes. defying the billionaire class involves more than one interested party. again you were born to be a slave
>>158255818You moved the goalposts. You lost. I accepted your concession. Thanks for trying.
>arguments get blown to shit so thoroughly you start crying about goys and israel in a college football thread
>>158255808how drunk do you have to be to think that was the point. Nobody is arguing that there's perfect parity in the NFL. there is quantifiably more parity in the NFL than in many other sports, including college football
>>158255835that's what i meant with the nitpicky desperation.>>158255833no, you're just demanding that people bend to your whims while you aren't even to vote with your meager wallet. lmao @ u
>>158255901Not what you meant since it wasn't what you initially said. You moved the goalpost, you lost. Take the L instead of tripling down like a retard.
>>158255623>have fun laughing at me and other stupid people probably will, yeah
>>158255901>while you aren't even to vote with your meager walletnetanyahu pls go
This thread is AIDS
>>158255937it is what i meant. I didn't specify games, yet you're willing to headcanon that word in to suit you. obvoulsy nobody thinks the pats were sub .500 during the brady era, so I'm not sure what you're really attempting there.
Amazing that there's parity in Women's Olympic Archery. I always thought there wasn't, but apparently winning 10/11 Gold medals means there's parity. The 2 games the won all three medals, that's peak fucking parity.
>>158255942>i'm going to continue watching this thing I bitch about, add to their ad revenue, and complain about OTHER people being jewish
>>158255970Quadruple down. Damn, you're incredibly retarded. You lost, learn to accept it like a man.
btw everybody bitching about byu not being #1 they got 20 votes. miami only got 40. it's very split and 4 separate teams got votes so that would indicate miami has very little support relatively as a #1 team (rightfully after last night).
>>158255954you're mom got this thread from her gay best friend in the late 80s?
>>158256002>add to their ad revenuebro it's like midnight in tel aviv. log off and go to bed
>>158256068>why no, I won't stop doing the thing that I do that encourages the thing I hate.Golden hour approaching in the lord's timezone here.
>>158255673It's not 2023 anymore, Cletus.
>>158256103>in the lord's timezoneahhh a zaslow fan lmao somehow i knew all along
>>158256169wut
>>158256183Johnathan ZaslowHe's a sports talk radio guy down here in south Florida and he's always talking about that
>>158256153Ohio State has won at least 10 regular season games every year after 2012 minus the shorten COVID season. Going back 20 years, they've won at least 10 regular season games every year except the aforementioned. You're clearly a fucking retard.
>>158256213they love to pretend they're lefties man it's so fucking funny to me
For me it is the Auburn Tigers, the best college football team.
>>158256216You're missing the point. The SEC isn't as good now that they can't hoard players.
>>158256262are you saying Ohio State is in the SEC, or are you saying that what would have been SEC players in the past are making their way to Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, etc?
>>158256262see>>158255471
>zas gets called out>thread immediately dies back downvery curious...
>>158256409>sperg about jews>try to make fun of someone for knowing talk radio host that actually you know
>>158256458idf soldier says what?
>>158256488and priase KEK!
why do /pol/ retards who come here just starting calling everyone good goys and jews instead of laying out a plan (any plan) to over take who they feel rules everything? if you keep screaming that they run everything, at some point doesn't it reinforce the narrative you're trying to overcome?
>no guys i SWEAR the perfectly altruistic state of israel will see us through this!!!!LMAO
I’m you may not like it, but the big 12 is the best conference
>best game next week kicks off at 10:15pm
>>158256595no different than blacks and browns that blame every shortcoming on racism from da whyte man. same type of person / personality.
>>158256760you have it backward but you got the spirit
>>158256745Ole Miss ending the saarhorns' season and getting Sark fired will be pretty kino
>>158256595Yes we are in the gayest most homosexual war of all time bc of bibi, jews, and the adleson's. No one even denies this. Good goy. No a poltard is not going to write you a thesis on a Mongolian basketweaving forum, hes just shitposting, a lot of have posted on pol but its basically dead now as X/twitter has taken its spot.
>>158256595well in the case of this thread it derailed because some autists decided it would be a good idea to argue about pro/rel scenarios that will never ever happen instead of properly arguing about rankings like we always do
>>158256933this. the idf should actually be handed centcom control because uhhhh that's how it is uhhhh
>>158256904>X/twitter has taken its spotgreat news. when are you fucking losers going to make your way over there?
>>158257016
>heavy red losses forecasted in every swing state midterm>hitlerposting suddenly drops to a bare minimumhmm.....
>>158252580how does anybody, but especially an athlete, respect an obese "person"?
>>158257095that fuckin blimp doesn't want these kids having fun while they play a game
>>158257095you know everyone but skill positions are obese in football right
>>158252580Big fella needs to relax before his heart explodes.
>>158256745LSU at Auburn
>>158254155KEK
why didn't he know
>>158252628>snnnnniiiiifffffffff
>>158252637>I know what would save college football! >More FCS teams playing in FBS!You are extremely gay and retarded
>>158256023You really are a dumb asshole. No one with a brain would assume that the goalpost he set was what you claim. Clarifying your position once you see the other person has misunderstood you isn't moving the goalposts you fucking tard. That being said, he did fail to address your point about a lack of parity inside the divisions, but across the league as a whole, as measured by championship wins, the NFL has much better parity than the EPL with 13 champions over the past 26 years as compared to the EPLs 6. However, over that same stretch CFB has had 14 different champions, so the NFL and CFB are actually roughly the same as far as parity across the organization.
>>158257870It actually would lead to less
>>158257877Sad that you lost and keep going. Filtered. Keep replying, I won't see it anymore. I know you'll reply again because all retards do. Prove me right, show me just how retarded you really are.
>>158253307>Sincerely how the fuck does James Madison keep doing it?> in the Sun BeltI think you answered your own question
>>158257902Technically true but I think he means FCS tier teams. Really what does swapping out the shittiest FBS conferences for FCS conferences really do for the sport? How does scheduling work when you schedule years in advance but don't know who is going to be FBS or FCS years in advance?
>>158257947You can't filter anon retard
>0 SEC and 1 B1G in the top 4It's time the NCAA steps in and does something about these fraud conferences
>>158257877the nfl has 30 teams and CFB has 140
>>158255647That bitch was shaking in fear. A White pill for the country.
>>158258258that's something that this retard often spams when he gets btfo and needs to soothe his feelies by pretending to shitpost
>>158257169yes, but there's strength behind them. that guy is just a fucking blob.
>>158257947lel this guy didn't know the word pentuple
>>158252507What other boards do you post on /CFB/? For me its Tigerdroppings
>>158258415Noles247
Arch being so bad that longhorn fans are on twitter reminiscing about ewers is making me feel something
This season has been fraud watch 24/7, who’s the next one to fall
>>158258671Ole Miss will lose to Texas, moving Texas back into the top 10
Promotion and relegation is gay and anyone suggesting it is gay.
>>158259162>muh culture war is more important than fairnesskeep buying the tel aviv narrative bitch boi
>>158259269
>>158259294>well yes the power should remain in the hands of the powerful>well uhhh because uhhhh>because it just should, okay!!!!
>>158259269I am Benjamin Nettenyahoo and me and my team have been gang stalking you for months. We're firing up the goy beam to blast you when you least expect it.
>>158258586It's wild how the media is still trying to pump his tires too, like we all don't have eyes.
>>158259423who is trying to pump his tires? Everything I have seen is saying he hasn't evolved any part of his game since he's been at Texas and taking a double dookie on him and Sark, which seems pretty fair.
>>158258586It’s wild that people could watch how bad Quinn was and now how bad Arch is and think the problem isn’t sark and his retarded broken offense and inability to develop talent. Two five star recruits who should work at McDonald’s
