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he's coming home, fla

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For me it is the Auburn Tigers, the best college football team.

So is the plan now to be dogshit enough to get into the playoffs and then start trying?
If 3 and 4 loss teams get in you don't have to worry about big losses.

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>>158447723
Interesting implications for rivalry games that traditionally are the last week of the regular season. If you know you're in the playoff regardless of the outcome, do you rest your starters and let scrubs play against your rival, not caring if you lose?

>>158447807
How is this even a question. You rest your starters unless the game matters for making playoffs or positioning
We will see within 2 years Ohio State/Michigan rest players for their game

>>158446870
>>158446925
Brian Kelly is still out there.

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Reffies and Vegas- hand-in-hand.

https://awfulannouncing.com/college-football/fox-robert-griffin-iii-mike-pereira-big-12-officials-overturned-byu-asu-touchdown.html

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fast enough

AP Top 25
1. Miami (62)
2. Georgia (7)
3. Utah (1)
4. Notre Dame
5. UCLA
6. Indiana
7. BYU
8. Kentucky
9. Alabama
10. Texas
11. Ohio State
12. Ole Miss
13. Texas Tech
14. Wake Forest
15. LSU
16. Tennessee
17. Houston
18. USC
19. Mizzou
20. Boise State
21. Iowa
22. New fuckin' Mexico
>>>>>>>>>23. South Carolina
24. Arizona
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>25. Florida

>>158447807
Not a fan of this webm desu

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Biggest movers:
USC +13
South Carolina +7
Iowa +5
New Mexico +5
Missouri +4
Utah +3
UCLA +2

Biggest droppers:
Ohio State -9
Indiana -2

Others receiving votes:
Northwestern 79, Oregon 55, UTSA 43, SMU 27, Virginia Tech 12, Duke 10, Minnesota 8, Liberty 4, Oklahoma State 3, Louisville 1

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll

>>158449151
Jawja receiving #1 votes is actually insane. Miami is fraudulent but they didn’t lose to fucking Auburn at home
Also UCLA objectively should be ahead of ND

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NOT SO FAST NORVELL HATERS

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>Heads down to Bloomington to entice Cignetti to become the next head coach of the Clots.

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What part of B1G country are you from?

>>158449369
It’s not insane at all. Playing UNC to the wire is just as bad as losing to auburn. And anyone with a brain would pick Georgia over Miami if they played tomorrow on a neutral site

We are moving away from “count the number of losses” ranking

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>>158449057
NO REFUNDS

>When Georgia and Miami lose next week we are going to see #1 Utah

>>158449134
>job description
>walk around as a cop after football games
>$250k a year and pension
Must be nice.

>>158449246
>>158449151
This is New Mexico's first AP ranking ever

>south cackalacky ranked in the AP poll
Beamer was about to get fired 3 weeks ago what the fuck happened

>>158449057
this is the third week in a row a bad ref call directly aided BYU, arguably all in clutch moments.
what the fuck is going on with reffing this year? It's so much worse than usual.

>>158449651
genuinely, good for them. It's fun seeing forgotten programs getting to have a good time. Jason Eck is doing good things there. Too bad this 100% means some P4 team is about to write him a blank check

>>158449656
hedging their bets, if Florida gets embarrassed again they need another "ranked" SEC team to buoy the upper levels.

>>158446870
I'm hearing rumors that Oregon is going to make Mike Norvell their OC. How will that work out?

Is there any reason for UCLA to be ranked below Notre Dame

>>158449810
NBC deal.

>>158449151
>two G6 teams in the top 24
Surely we can expect something like this in the CFP rankings next season, right?

>>158449461
Closest B1G School to me is Rutgers, followed by Maryland. But I almost went to Pedo state. Got a free ride at App State tho so I went there much to the chagrin of my dad (a high school dropout)

>>158449810
Media made their mind up that Irish are better already

>>158449913
>chagrin
look at the college boy with his fancy words

>>158449246
I love how chaotic this season is. How many people would've had UCLA in the top 5, Utah in the top 3, top 15 Wake Forest, or first time ranked New Mexico? It's not quite 2007 since the barrier for entry is lower but man It's great
>>158449987
I, from my Appalachian mountain mansion look down on the lowly blue collar hillbillies, brushing their tooth

dead sport

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save us jimbo

>>158449134
OSU fans give me shit for saying his teams win despite him not because of him.

>>158449483
>winning on the road is the same as losing at home to teams with basically identical ratings.
Lmao. Those performances are basically 2 TDs apart in quality, dummy

>>158449151
Those seven UGA 1st place votes belong to Utah btw

>>158449810
Presumably for the same reason they are ranked ahead of BYU

>>158450608
By they I mean Notre Dame
>reasons

>>158450608
>>158450660
You're saying UCLA has a loss to a team that's sub .500 in the big 12 and beat ND under suspicious circumstances?

>>158449718
Eck is staying.

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New Sagarin
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

JIMBO IS COMING HOME

>>158450137
how is sex a real thing people just do
insane

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>>158449057
B1G officiating is just as bad.
Setup- Minn -v- Indy game 1st quarter, 1st Minn possession
>Minn punting
>punter gets kick away clean
>punter hit hard at the waist, ran over and tackled
*penalty- RUNNING into the kicker, and NOT ROUGHING*
>Minn coach rightfully goes off for 5 minutes

I turned it off.
The level of officiating is atrocious, especially in football. Basketball has always been garbage. Hockey and Baseball are good enough. But football officials are the absolute worse.
It's why they always LITERALLY leave the field with a police escort.

When are you guys going to grow up and watch the NFL?

>>158450250
>muh ratings

Auburn would be favored big over unc neutral site. Your ratings are obviously fucked

>they actually fired Norvell
So they found the money after all. "Ain't rich enough"fags seething

>>158452805
I'm watching women's college volleyball right now.

>>158452906
>Owed $50.3 million
lol

>>158449134
>8 minutes left in the game
>Down 15 points
>Take 6 minutes to score
>"FAST ENOUGH"

Day has no sense for game flow and has always been a below average clock manager.
Maybe "FAST ENOUGH" has more to do with his coaching staff than the players.

>>158452805
It's a replay, but I'm watching women's oil wrestling.

>>158452908
Based. I sometimes like the token Asian Libido on some teams.

>>158453039
The offense was peak Arthur Smith, warts and all. It's not an offense that hauls ass.

Who do you even replace Norvell with?

>>158452906
There's a difference between calling a single donor to get someone like jimbo fisher fired and begging the tribe for gibs to get on a payment plan for 50 million.

>>158453165
They're gonna throw a bag at Jason Eck, he'll do terribly, and FSU will be a dead program for the next decade

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>>158453165
If only for the butthurt it would cause.

Deion could consistently get FSU in a 24 team playoff.

>>158453154
There's some gigaultramegastacy on Oklahoma. I think I'd start crying if she ever looked at me irl.

>>158453165
DeBoer

Confirmed fired

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>>158453165
Just pay him in freshman sluts like that other poster suggested last night.

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>>158447654
Thanks, but I work alone.

I got perm banned on reddit for accidentally saying the N word

For me it's the Auburn Tigers, the best women's college volleyball team.

>>158454791
Coach Nigger

>FSU has also fired DC Tony White and safeties coach Evan Cooper
for a team that didn't have any money for firings, they sure do suddenly want to fire a bunch of people

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>>158449483
>anyone with a brain would pick Georgia over Miami if they played tomorrow

I was expected more of a response from /cfb/ after he finally got fired

>>158456756
Their AD got fired a month ago and in that moment Norvell's death certificate was signed, only needed to be dated.
When you see it coming from a mile away it's not as shitpost-worthy when it happens. That on top of FSU being dogshit the past three years.

>>158454791
I got banned over some real bullshit. I think I was giving someone some EXTREMELY TRUE advice on how to successfully get girls and it triggered a janny. Then after I got banned I naturally made another account and went to call out the janny for banning me over a disagreement of opinion which is a clear abuse of power. Then they banned me so hard that anyone who had ever accessed Redd*t over my WiFi got banned. So my little sister and like 8 of her friends all got permanently banned lol

>>158456756
He almost beat Miami, spoiled fans

>>158455635
It's true aside from maybe the Prussians where they'd have better individual soldiers but a huge unwinnable disadvantage in artillery.

>>158455635
>b1ggers so historically retarded that they think this isn’t true

At the start of WW1 the European powers were rolling out napoleonic armies with napoleonic doctrine. Americans already knew how to fight with proto machine guns and shit. The Europeans would have gotten absolutely rolled.

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Coach Primate

>>158456756
Surprised they did it, but now what? lol

>>158456756
Lot of posers watching the NFL right now

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Who would win in a fight?
>4 Ohio State defenders
>or 1 freshman TE
The answer may surprise you

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My slampig FWB doesn’t have a cute face and she has a gag reflex :(

>>158452901
They aren't my ratings, dimwit. They're like 4 different systems that all look almost identical to game lines week after week. If you don't understand basic shit like that, you should avoid commenting on the topic

>>158459137
it sucks for McClain because he's been balling for Ohio State this year, but no one will remember that because he got hurdled by a white tight end.

>>158452805
This, NFL fans are typically really mature and intelligent

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>>158455635
To be fair, Europe is curently being destroyed by roaming packs of brown 80 IQ apes who don't even have guns, so it's probably true that the Confederates could easily conquer them

>>158449810
Let’s be real, ND would beat UCLA handily on a neutral field and we all know it
But yeah resumewise UCLA is just better at this point

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>>158459971
>and we all know it
Notre Dame has a black coach, you imbecile. Anything could happen in a matchup like that

>>158460045
Valid

>>158451639
So much better than Sagarin

>>158460045
SHADILAY BROTHER AND PRAISE KEK!

>>158460116
One is meant to be predictive and the other is not. Saying one is better than the other is an admission of low iq and simply not knowing ball

Is there any reason for osu to be ranked ahead of usc?

>usc has better record
>usc won head to head

>>158460929
If 2 P2 teams have the same record and 1 has a H2H win over the other, the H2H winner should be ranked higher, no exceptions

>>158460968
Agreed. Usc should be 10-15 and osu should he in the same range, just below.

Ranking teams who can win a natty this year by how good I think they are:

1. Georgia
2. LSU
3. Indiana
4. Texas
5. Miami
6. Ohio State
7. Alabama

>>158460968
What if there's a circle of wins that necessarily violates this rule, as there often is?

>>158461072
Thanks for this bud, this is really interesting and helpful

>>158461072
I'd agree about Texas if it was the BCS era or the 4 team bracket, but they are way too inconsistent to win the 12 team bracket. They could put together 1 or 2 good games, but in a system where you have to win 3-4 straight playoff games they will lay a stinky in one of them.

>>158461235
So 2 games is fine, 3 games is unbelievable?

>>158461235
They consistently play to the level of their opponent almost every week senpai

And have done so for years under Sarkesian now that I think about it. They were a play away from beating 2024 Ohio state lol

>>158461072
ND could absolutely get hot & win it all but I’m not saying they will

>>158461712
If you're always one of the most talented rosters, that just means you forget to show up somewhat frequently

>>158461072
>6-2 Texas
>6-2 Bama
>6-2 ohio state
>7-2 usc nowhere to be seen

Make it make sense

>>158454791
Last time I used reddit i got permabanned for calling a stupid faggot a stupid faggot on the college football page

>>158449369
the only thing fraudulent about miami is their secondary. granted it's a pretty big flaw but their offense will literally never let them be out of a game even if their secondary can't get off the field like yesterday

>>158452906
they had to shake down the boosters and it's going to turn into a bargain bin g6 hire while they spin out paying him off, there is no way they can afford to pay top tier money to two coaches, some schools can but they are not one of them. im not surprised they fired him because fsu's board has no fucking clue what they're doing but i really thought they were gonna stick with norvell until the buyout became more manageable in a couple years and then take a swing at a big coach. they kinda fucked themselves here, they can't afford a big coach so they gamble on a g6 shitter and if he gets lucky once like norvell did they are going to repeat the same stupid decisions

>>158461072
1. Team that lost to .500 Auburn at home
Lmfao

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Michigan just needs to win out. Beating two top 10 teams in the last two weeks will seal it.

>>158449246
>ranks 1-3
Am I kawaii? UGUU~

>>158451639
Based fellow colleyposter
The one true ranking

After watching some Arch interviews, he seems genuinely low IQ.

>>158462284
Lincoln Riley team.

>>158463995
He talks like every other zoomer I've ever met

>>158446870
Did we ever find out why his whole team entered the portal in 2023?

>>158462284
As a USCfag myself I’m not boarding the hype train just yet. It was Riley’s best win by far and USC’s best win in at least a decade but there are plenty of reasons to pump the brakes. The Bucknuts shot themselves in the foot constantly, one of the rare games where Riley outcoached someone. Also USC has always been a way better team at home under Riley. If they beat Indiana on the road I’ll start to believe but I give that like a 15% chance of happening

T Boone Pickens would go crazy in the NIL era. Oklahoma State would be top 10 every year.

>>158463640
Cope. It's over for you cheating losers.

>>158464276
>It was Riley’s best win by far and USC’s best win in at least a decade
It was completely and utterly unimpressive. OSU's backup QB is a fucking train wreck. There is nothing impressive about beating Ohio State right now.

>>158463640
Seal what, pray tell? A berth in the Cheez-It Bowl? Meatchicken is done. No one is fooled by the “win” over WMU and regardless I can’t imagine them getting in over any other 3-loss P2, if indeed any 3-loss teams make it
Oh, and most obviously of all, they’re not winning out, lmao. 2-2 at best.

>>158464393
I actually am inclined to agree that a lot of this game was Ohio State beating themselves but Fahey wasn’t even close to the biggest problem

>>158464393
Sayin doesn't play defense and Ohio State had a lot of bad drops on catchable passes. Fahey played like a decent game manager, which is about the best you could expect in that context.

>>158464604
Yeah the way people are talking about this game you’d think Fahey threw 4 interceptions. He didn’t even make any major mistakes beyond a couple overthrows of open receivers but every QB including Sayin has those. QB play isn’t even in the top 5 reasons Ohio State lost

>>158464276
>riley's best win in 5 years is beating the most mid cryin gay OSU team with a MAC tier QB

>>158464751
This is one of those wild overreactions to Fahey’s QB play I just mentioned. You didn’t watch the game or you’re just deep in cope mode.

>>158462097
/pol/ is thattaway. No one here gives a single fuck about ukraine or slavs killing each other in anything other than heroes3.

>>158464643
Cuckeye damage control is acting like losing Sayin was equivalent to losing Cam Newton

>>158450985
For one more season? Maybe. That’s the limit though. He left Idaho when he got the well-deserved chance, he will leave for a P4 team when he gets the well-deserved chance. Very Cignetti like in how long he spent grinding away in lower division football, succeeding everywhere but never getting noticed. Now he is.

Is Notre Dame ranked so high because their tantrum worked? Are trying desperately to make sure ND makes the playoffs for the ratings?

>>158464939
It's to advertise a #1 vs #4 game this weekend when Miami plays at Notre Dame. If ND loses there is no way they make the playoff with 10 wins vs shitters and 2 losses vs the only good teams they played. That would be a rerun of last season. You might think "Well ND barely missed the playoff last year so maybe they'll be on the right side of the cut line this year" but there is one big difference from 2025 to 2026. Sankey and the head coach of every 9-3 SEC team will spend 24/7 during CCG week shilling for those teams to get at large spots. They will shit on 10-2 ND and their zero quality wins nonstop to make sure they don't get a bid.

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>>158456888
You unintentionally saved your sister and her friends from retardation. Well done, anon.
>>158459643
Slampigs are for pic related. She's a convenience. Get what you need and leave.
>>158462990
Has FSU tried hiring a coach that won't suck so bad they have to fire hose him with cash to go away?
>>158463640
Haley Stevens endorsed Ohio State in The Game. It's over!

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>But the financial reality at Florida State is ugly. Because the school had been so far behind in facilities during the Fisher and Taggart eras, Florida State needed to spend $400 million just to catch up. The debt service on those investments kicked in just when roster costs were exploding thanks to revenue sharing.
>Now, on top of that, it will cost tens of millions of dollars more to swap out coaching staffs. Though Norvell's buyout number of $47 million will likely be lower than that because he has a duty to mitigate written into his contract — in other words, when Norvell gets another job, the money he's paid will be subtracted from what FSU owes him.
It will be funny if FSU is passed over during the next round of realignment due to having old facilities and financial instability.

>>158463640
>1-score victories over WMU, Oklahoma, Pedo State and Buttgers
Christ they’re even worse than I thought

FSU needs to hire a defensive mastermind who can recruit well and has a history of turning mid level programs into championship contenders. Someone like Luke Fickell.

Please hire Luke Fickell.

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>>158454407
Comrade, that's not how communism works.

>>158465438
Fickell just saved his ass at Wisconsin for another season.

>>158465438
They also need a roster builder and someone who knows how to develop quarterbacks.

>>158465922
Even last year, I'd have told you that Wiscy likes everything about Fickell except for the results. Now the results are improving. He's not going anywhere unless it's on his own terms.

>>158464939
No its because they're good

>>158464980
How is that a big difference? That's exactly what gapplasy year. Bama didn't belong and you forgot that ND had good wins

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Saturday is gonna be fun

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which head coaching job is better, penn state or FSU? are they basically the same and if so is fsu going to get turned down by everybody and then take a terrible last option and pretend that's who they wanted all along like penn state?

>>158466669
FSU is going to be in a less certain conference situation and Penn State's NIL budget seems a bit higher by most estimates. It's harder for Penn State to reach a conference championship, but that might not be the case in ~5 years

>>158465922
Are you implying Wisconsin is anything close to Florida State? lol

>>158466669
Is say they are pretty equivalent. More money at pedo state but Florida state should be able to get Florida bucks at a discount and you can win a natty just with Florida bucks. And Florida is a more desirable place to live than Pennsylvania

>>158466763
Wisconsin has a higher NIL budget right now, almost identical roster quailty, plays in a better conference. Historically, Wisconsin has more wins, but but FSU has more weeks in the AP poll and a higher win percentage. They really aren't that different, especially if you're a coach just looking at who is best set upf or success today.

>>158466774
>tallahassee is a desireable place to live

>>158466669
Penn State has higher funding, a more stable conference position and less expectations for immediate success
James Franklin got 11 years at Penn State where he fluctuated from 2-6 losses each season and that is a long time for a CFB coach

>>158466795
That’s why this argument is going to be so fucking retarded kek
Florida and Pennsylvania both have desirable places to live. Neither are near Tallahassee or State College

>>158449656
Why do cocks often fuck their season over the first 7 games and then go on a massive spoiler campaign to finish the season so often?

>>158466839
Cocktober is real.

>>158466791
>Historically, Wisconsin has more wins, but but FSU has more weeks in the AP poll and a higher win percentage. They really aren't that different,
Florida State has THREE NATIONAL TITLES in the last 33 years, and Wisconsin has never even SNIFFED one in their entire fucking existence. Nothing about these schools' histories are even REMOTELY comparable.

>>158466187
The big difference is the SEC playing 9 conference games now instead of 8 and how that juices their SOS

>>158466669
im da best mane
i did it

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What went so wrong for Oklahoma this year?

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Just gotta win out and count on Georgia Southern losing 1 out of 4 games, then we're in the SBC title game and we can forget the embarrassing losses. Can't be that hard.

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>>158466498
>No. 19 Mizzou

>>158465046
>Slampigs are for pic related. She's a convenience. Get what you need and leave.
That’s the thing. I can’t get oral and her face isn’t enjoyable to look at. But she’s good enough that I don’t really feel like replacing her.

>>158464980
ND's bitch fit last year made is so as long as their ranked in the top #12 they get a spot. I doubt the voters will drop them that far unless Miami just crushes them by 40.

>>158467228
They remind me of the Vikings. Lots of wins yet no titles.

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>Idaho starts 0-4
>Wins the FCSb owl
It’s happening. You can’t stop the rape train coming.

>>158468065
Doesn't matter what the voters do, all that matters is the committee. They can always wait to drop Notre Dame after all the games are played because muh full body of work, like how Miami didn't pass ND until the final week last year. If ND is 10-2 they're going to have a really tough time making a playoff argument when their best win is Wisconsin or SMU while the other 10-2/9-3 teams jockeying for at large bids have multiple top 15 wins on their resume.

>>158467228
The all caps makes you sound like a woman/Redditor

>>158466826
Bucks from the south don’t like cold weather bro Florida is always going to be more desirable than Pennsylvania in this context

>>158468065
reminder that this "bitch fit" (which was no different than what sankey does every year) resulted in a a new arrangement that would not have gone into effect in any season in the BCS or CFP era besides last year, and that last year the CFP let the outcome dictate the ranking rather than the ranking dictate the outcome, so even that wouldn't have mattered. much ado about nothing

>>158467454
>the difference is something different from what i said the first time
how much harder have the SEC schedules gotten now with the extra game? quanitfy it.

>>158467228
first off, I already showed you the comparison. FSU has been on the top a lot more in their history, but they're really not that difference in the long term. FSU has been in the top 25 590 weeks, Wisconsin 417. Those are 15th and 23rd respectively. You're pretending that the Bowden era is representative of both overall history and the current situation, and neither of those is accurate. That's why you used a bizarre aribitrary time frame (past 33 years) and conspicuously ignored their really poor past decade. The difference in their overall historical place in the sport is not substantial enough to overcome the marginal edge that Wisconsin currently holds in terms of resources and conference stature in the eyes of most coaches and players.

>>158468190
yeah ND is basically guaranteed a spot with a win and almost certainly fucked if they lose this weekend, barring an implosion across the bubble.

is the rankings tomorrow? or next week

>>158466856
Beamer still needs to go. The upsets are nice but they never show up when it actually matters

>>158468604
It’s tomorrow

>>158467760
ou vs a&m will be a slurp off for the ages

>>158468612
thank goodness. This will solve everything im sure

>>158467662
naw i messed up
but ima stay on top
they told me mang, butchoo know
im never gon flop

>>158468647
To be fair, even their early rankings dont matter. They've just been copying the BCS in early weeks then finessing as they see fit in the last couple weeks and violating their own previous logic

>>158467760
they have a defensive coordinator with zero head coaching experience running the program. the brand of air raid mateer and arbuckle run is dated and they don't have the weapons to drag the system above their competition. he had one year with dillon gabriel and last year was a scheduling anomaly and they still looked like shit, their win against Alabama was overvalued.

hes not a head coach, hes a coordinator, and the difference between the two is a coordinator can never stop trying to beat himself or what would work on him, whereas a head coach understands what would beat the other guy.

>>158468380
good luck. living in florida and surrounded by these vapid fsu fans i can tell you they do not understand bowden was an anomaly and the rise of the SEC was a poison pill to their talent pipeline while miami's resurgence has been catastrophic to their ability to pull transfers as well as blue chips from south florida. they were never rich enough to stay elite in the NIL era and they have squandered all the prestige bowden built into that job by making retarded move after retarded move in both coaching hires as well as talent acquisition. a microcosm, miami pulled both cam ward and carson beck out of the draft with NIL, and had enough money to rip mensah out of duke, while FSU managed ukelele, castellanos (lmfao), and ashton daniels (???). like they're pulling what they can afford to pull.

the truth is they are in no mans land recruiting wise and they have zero money to compensate AND they have been irrelevant for a long time. there is no light at the end of the tunnel for them, they're gonna have to make the whole ass tunnel first, and any coach who wants to deal with that is not going to be a current p5 head coach worth anything. so there's another g6 incoming and it might even be a coordinator because it is literally a total shit show of a job.

but you can't explain this to fsu fans. theyre out there talking about gruden, cig, lane. they are literally completely retarded.

>>158449369
Needing 2OT and 2 shitty ref rulings to erase a score to beat Florida fucking State and then letting UNC take you to the wire the week after is arguably worse than losing to Auburn in its worst years.

>>158468809
"To the wire" a stretch.

>>158466795
Like most places in the country, it is if you have D1 HC money. The one thing you can't change with money is weather (and marina access)

>>158468809
No, winning is not arguably worse than losing. You’re a victim of EEC brainrot.

>>158468837
I know being a Miami football fan that you probably only watch a football game once or twice a year if Miami makes it to the ploffs, but 3 is the smallest point differential that can be achieved minus unusual occurrences such as conversions, safeties, and missed PATs.

>>158468848
Winning against the local peewee football team is arguably worse than losing the super bowl.

>>158468809
they destroyed pitt the week in between those two games. fsu was a rivalry game and norvell's last gasp, not totally dismissing the result but it wasn't in a vacuum. they hadn't beaten UNC outright since 2019.

look miamis secondary isn't even questionable or suspect, it looks just straight up bad, and that's a big fucking problem, but there is no indication their offense can't compensate for it either until they figure out how to play together or until somebody shuts down that offense. the only team to do it so far was wake forest in the second half.

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SHAME ON YOU CORNHUSKER FANS!!!

>>158468893
You can get a 1 point difference without anything weird happening
>one TD and one FG vs three FGs
>two TDs vs one TD and two FGs
>five TDs vs four TDs and two FGs

>>158468893
This was a nice attempt at being smug, but it was a two score game that could only be tied with an onside conversion and then more work to do. There are numerous closer games every week. Let's also not forget that you just tried to argue that winning is worse than losing, so your relative credibility on the topic isn't something you should be trying to highlight.

>>158468893
>EEC tard makes embarrassing post involving simple math again
Tons of combos of 3 and 7, dumbass

>>158468928
my hero Jedd Fisch lives another week

>>158468963
Math didn't save you from the gas chambers, and it certainly won't save you from the fact that everyone can payroll violent Florida street apes with impunity now. It can't even fill the lower deck of your stadium in a rivalry game lol.

>>158468928
Whelp, corn knows how to get out of the buyout now. Just need a booster to pay off some kids to call his daughter a stupid cunt for losing like that.

>>158469042
>this guy can add so he must be a jew from miami
Lmaooooo

>>158469070
He laffin cuz he know

>>158468913
Nope.

>>158469042
damn you would never expect a polfaggot southerner to make multiple cartoonishly stupid posts in a row

>>158468802
>. theyre out there talking about gruden, cig, lane.
i'm praying this isn't true outside of a few token retards

>>158468324
>quanitfy it.
On average, everyone has half an extra loss. Well, except Arky and Vandy. They were going to lose that game anyway, regardless of who it was against.

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>>158469622
Which was worse:
Michigan's win over Western Michigan
Michigan's loss to Indiana
Be honest.

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>>158469809
>Michigan's win over Western Michigan
>"win"

There are actual CFP voters/pollsters that score that as a loss.
>>158451714
>http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

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Are you ready for a HUGE weekend, /cfb/?
Early games
>BYU at Utah
>UCLA at Minnesota
>Texas at Missouri
Afternoon games
>Alabama at LSU
>Oregon at Ohio State
Night games
>Kentucky at Tennessee
>Miami at Notre Dame
>Georgia at Ole Miss

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>>158469756
eh maybe. the fattest part of the discrepancy is still less than a 3 point per game difference, and the complaint is basically that "we have to play the 41st best team in the country instead of the 48th". Considering the playoff bubble is around mid-to-high teens in power rating, the additional conference game would still be a 10+ point spread. You can say that a 1-2 point increase in opponent quality adds up if it happens in 4 different weeks, so there's a cumulative impact. That's certainly a non-zero factor, but I have a hard time believing it rises to half a loss per team on average, especially among teams at the top of the conference. More than anything, this talking point seems like another poorly-conceived attempt by the EEC to hype themselves up because they assumed nobody would bother to actually check the logic (or perhaps due to their surroundings didn't realize this was something was relativley easy for non-tards to inspect).

>>158468928
already looking for a way out. sad

>>158468324
>how much harder have the SEC schedules gotten now with the extra game?

I'd love to see Michigan and OSU schedule the same teams that Alabama and Kentucky did the previous year, to give them an extra bye week like Alabama and Kentucky get. Also, Georgia does this shit too.

>>158469741
token retards make up 95%+ of their fans. that's what I'm trying to tell you.

>>158469809
that's a false equivalence. a win against western michigan is better than a loss against western michigan. it has nothing to do with indiana

>>158470117
this bot get broken? I think a prompt to rank things by definition is not an equivalence.

>>158468913
i guess you could have that debate but it has nothing to do with Miami and georgia's respective schedules so that is a weird tangent

>>158469809
>Michigan's win over Western Michigan
Michigan didn't beat Western Michigan though.

>>158469809
As frustrating as that loss to Indiana was--given that they would have won if not for that shanked chip-shot field goal--the Hoosiers are still the defending champs and their defense is still legit.
Needing a last second Hail Mary to beat a MAC school, on the other hand, is extremely embarrassing.
>>158469837
Those people are delusional. It's a shame Sagarin decided to completely torpedo any credibility he ever had over this.

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>>158470485
>Those people are delusional. It's a shame Sagarin decided to completely torpedo any credibility he ever had over this.
i mean, it's a predictive rating. i'm not sure that treating that as a loss changes his credibility, since that should only reflect the methodology of a predictive metric.

>>158470517
It's denying reality, though. It's one thing for a random anon on here to pretend like Michigan lost because you don't like them or whatever, but when a so-called "expert" does it, it just reveals his own biases, and calls his entire system of ranking teams into question. Very sad.

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so... its begun. at long last.

>>158468380
Your problem is that you think a program that has been around since 1889 is “not that difference [sic] in the long term” from the program of a school that was a literal girls’ college until the late 1940s. If you didn’t know FSU didn’t have a team regularly until after the GI bill, you’re ignorant. If you did know that and still chose to compare the programs by total wins, you’re retarded.

Wisconsin has 156 more wins, but they’ve played 413 more games. Their most significant AP success, including all five of the seasons they ever appeared in the top 2 of the poll, came before FSU even made their first appearance in the poll, so your poll appearance stat also only favors Wisconsin for being an established program for far longer. Wisconsin was a founding member of the B1G in 1896 while FSU was independent until they joined the ACC in 1992. Wisconsin has one top 5 finish in the last 60 years while FSU has 17.

tl;dr there is almost nothing comparable about the two programs, any stats you cherrypick that show Wisconsin to be close are because of their longevity, also you’re a moron

>>158470735
i see you've attempted to sounds smarter than someone else when (not for the first time) ignoring the current financial & conference situation. In that regard, I agree with you, they are not comparable. Unlike you, I acknowledge that FSU is clearly inferior on both counts.

Also, it's kind of stupid to make a historical argument that in which you try to pass off having more limited history as a positive.

>>158470561
does it make his model less accurate?

>>158470485
True, which is my point that sometimes a win is worse than a loss, a concept that an anon up-thread can't comprehend. But I guess he can "well, technically" his way out even if everyone with eyes and an IQ above 80 sees the reality of which was the more embarrassing outcome.

>>158467350
Nobody below Georgia deserves a shot. Bring back the BCS.

>>158470819
you probably got less grace because you are trying to make that argument about Auburn and UNC

>>158470690
It’s a bunch of retarded boomers who are going to sort teams by number of losses and only make decisions between teams with the same number of losses at which point they will let in whoever has the head to head or will get more viewers. So fucking pointless. Especially now that we have AI who could actually tell you who the best 12 teams are.

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>>158470802
I’m not the anon you were arguing with, just had to jump in and point out your retardation.
>Also, it's kind of stupid to make a historical argument that in which you try to pass off having more limited history as a positive.
You’re retarded so I’d be careful trusting what you think is stupid and smart. IMO the team on the left is more prestigious all time even if they weren’t around much before Hiroshima got nuked, but I suppose a low IQ could lead one to think that “more years = more impressive” (even though Akron also beats FSU by that metric).

>>158470850
i think they said they are factoring in sos more which should mean blowhio shart is out

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>>158468928
lmao

>>158468848
It obviously is, that’s why we have rankings that aren’t just the teams in order of win percentage.

>Buckeye fans wanting Ryan Day fired
Lmao that job cannot be worth the money

>LSU and Bama will not be playing each other every year
What the actual fuck
The best thing about /cfb/ were rivalries and now you’re removing them?
Americans what the fuck you had one good product that wasn’t complete goyslop

>>158470865
Are we changing to argument to "more prestigious" now? Seems like you had to "jump" in, point out an autocorrect like a douchebag, ignore part of the argument, and otherwise try to move some goalposts. Those programs are more similar than they are different in the big picture and most of what you are trying to argue for was already conceded from the start, in that FSU had a 20-year spell near the top that exceeded anything Wisconsin has accomplished.

Your Akron point is embarrassingly stupid. Akron has zero weeks in the AP top 25. You're trying to imply that Wisconsin's extreme depth of history is the only reason someone would consider them a program on that 20-30 tier, and that simply doesn't hold water. Either bringing up Akron was a total non sequitur or you were deliberately trying to misconstrue the argument you're trying to oppose. Or you're confused maybe.

>>158470561
It's a formula that's been running for decades retard. It's a change in one data point out of thousands that's clearly notated. How does that throw the credibility of his system into question? Is this just the melodramatic programming they put into you on the Big Blue Cock forums after the horrible embarrassment of losing to a middling MAC team?

>>158470947
>arms race to maximize revenue in order to stay competitive for recruit and coaching talent
>gold rush to line the pockets of coaches and admins
>explosion of media money
>dickheads and retards in charge of the conferences
it has been a perfect storm

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>>158470886
Ohio State needs four 7-5 seasons in a row to purge the fanbase of the "lifelong fans" who think that 10-win seasons every year is a birthright
>but a monkey could get ten wins at Ohi-
Has never been true of any place it's been said. Even DeBoer didn't get 10 wins his first year at Bama. Fucking even Saban needed a bowl game to salvage a ten win season the year after they won his first natty

>>158470947
Sorry buddy, if you're not the end-of-year rivalry please enjoy a complementary visit to the cuck chair while you play your rival every third season.

>>158470881
>>158470990
at this point it's impressive how unclutch Nebraska is. it feels intentional, like a cruel social experiment

>>158470952
>Are we changing to argument to "more prestigious" now?
It always was. You said their history was similar, did you not?
>Seems like you had to "jump" in, point out an autocorrect like a douchebag, ignore part of the argument, and otherwise try to move some goalposts.
I'm not interested in your entire argument, just the retarded part. Not everything you said was wrong. For example, Wisconsin certainly has deeper pockets than FSU. That part is not retarded.
>Those programs are more similar than they are different in the big picture
This part is retarded. You haven't even pointed out any similarities other than some longevity stats, which actually serve to highlight differences, not similarities.
>Your Akron point is embarrassingly stupid. Akron has zero weeks in the AP top 25. You're trying to imply that Wisconsin's extreme depth of history is the only reason someone would consider them a program on that 20-30 tier, and that simply doesn't hold water. Either bringing up Akron was a total non sequitur or you were deliberately trying to misconstrue the argument you're trying to oppose. Or you're confused maybe.
Of course it was stupid. It was mocking you thinking more history = good regardless of the quality of that history as you did here >>158470802.

>>158470886
he's been through worse. after Michigan beat them in 2024 the teachers at his kid's schools were berating his kids because of that loss. he had to get a security detail for his house in case of an actual lynch mob.
ohioans are psychotic for buckeye football

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>>158471074
sorry, dickhead. This is since the year 2000 so I don't want to hear any bullshit you want to spew about hiroshima. I didn't say "more history=good", and "regardless of the quality of that history" is not something you should have concluded was said in that post, because it wasn't. From the very start, and then again throughout, the quality of the history was referenced. you're just making shit up now like an idiot. These programs are more similar than they are different.

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>>158471118
also, since I think you rushed to jump in after doing a very poor job reading -- the argument also clearly pointed out that the bowden years were an aberration rather than the norm for FSU. That's obviously part of their history, but the post-bowden era hasn't exactly covered FSU in glory. That's approaching two decades now.

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The ghosts of once was

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>>158470979
my reffies :)

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>>158454407
I also work here.

>>158471118
>sorry, dickhead.
No need to apologize, just think before posting next time. Actually just don't post.
>This is since the year 2000 so I don't want to hear any bullshit you want to spew about hiroshima.
And it refutes your own argument. First, it's cherrypicked, conveniently ending the year after FSU's second natty. The only similarity in your cherrypicked stats are the weeks ranked, which also happens to be the most useless stat here since it treats being ranked #1 the same as being ranked #25.

You get even wronger as we move left to right. FSU has 72% more weeks in the top 10 than Wisconsin. For reference, that's an even greater gap than the one between Alabama and LSU (60%). Worst of all is the 13-0 in favor of FSU for weeks at #1. I can't even calculate how much higher 13 is than 0 because you can't divide by 0, and Wisconsin doesn't have a single week ranked #1 since 1952.

Of course, no good program enters a football season with the goal of trying to get ranked midseason. Good programs want to compete for championships and win trophies. Since 2000 (and this is just your cherrypicked range), FSU has played in two natties and one playoff, winning one, and won eight conference championships. Wisconsin has won only three conference championships and has never won or even played for a natty in their entire history.
>From the very start, and then again throughout, the quality of the history was referenced
And Wisconsin's history is inferior despite being around way longer.
>These programs are more similar than they are different.
You've gotta be a homer, no one else could be this adamant about being retarded. For reference, I hate FSU, so if anything I should be trying to agree with you, but I can't because you're just too wrong.

>>158471520
>dumb reffie doesn't get out of your way on a live play
>rips your helmet off
>flags you
DAS RITE BOY.

>>158470850
>Especially now that we have AI who could actually tell you who the best 12 teams are.
BCS was a thing in the 90s. GayI isnt needed

>>158471245
Sovl

>>158471645
Again, you're doin a lot of repeating stuff that was already agreed upon from the start. Nobody said they're identical, quite the opposite. Florida state isn't a top10 program historically. Wisconsin is top 25 across most historical slices and ratings of quality. I dont really think there's a universal way to assess quality, but to me any teams within that range are overall pretty similar, given that there arcorroborate? You've lost track of the point. Florida State on its own doesn't carry any material prestige on its name above Wisconsin as far any random coach or player is concerned, unless you were a certain age in the 90s and mistook that era as the norm.

While you were penning this tryhard post, I was looking at nfl draft picks by team (do players enter college hoping to get drafted?). Guess what that ALSO corroborates?

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I’m on the train at DFW and the UTEP basketball team is here.

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Can I just say how incredibly grateful I am that a bunch of Jewish media elites and fag journalists with zero interest in college football came in to the sport and completely gutted everything great about it in just about 3 years? Special shoutout to reddit for astroturfing and accelerating everything. Great work fellas.

>>158473819
Are you sure? They played at a tourney in South Dakota today

>>158474070
Yeah pretty sure. That game was 1 CT so it would make sense if they fucked off immediately after.

>>158473964
You gotta admit having the talent spread around makes the natty more interesting. No more Bamawinslol or Georgiawinslol. Saban literally retired because he could no longer out-talent everyone else.

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Apologize

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>>158475654
Looking back at this, it’s actually based.
>love me mum
>will go to her when I need comfort
>don’t care if anyone sees
>simple as

>>158474844
With the exception of Indiana with a Heisman miracle QB and an instant cash injection that could have easily happened 1p years ago if Mark Jew wasn't a cheap sissy, the top dogs are still the top dogs. The "spread of talent" is a fucking meme.

>>158475785
>don’t care if anyone sees
Why's he got a box over his head then?

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What's the /sp/erdict?

>>158475847
He doesn’t. Looks like the lady behind him shielded him with a paper, but he doesn’t seem to ask for that.

>>158475837
>with the exception of the program that had the most losses in the history of college football and the 73rd most talented roster winning the national championship with a perfect season, defeating bluebloods Alabama and Ohio State en route
Yeah with that exception lmao.

>>158476136
>With the exception of my addiction to sucking cock and getting fucked in the ass by men, I’m as straight as ever. “Homosexuality” is a fucking meme.

>>158475785
Faggot.

>>158473964
Ngl i am enjoying watching this shit collapse
t. NFL GOD

>>158476550
Call your mom.

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happened a month ago but i was occupied. did you all talk about Mora firing his DC at half time? yes, i know its CSU (alma mater), who is a fraud even in the Pac. they do have michael vick's cousin though
> https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/50097925/colorado-state-defensive-coordinator-leaves-sideline-fired-game
has there ever been another instance where a coach is literally fired, and off the team, during the game?

>>158475955
Boise St.
Texas St (surprisingly)
are decent.

The rest are trash. Pac 12 is basically the western conference of the Mountain West

>>158475955
Needs Wyoming, Air Force, New Mexico, UNLV and UTSA tbqh

>>158475654
You forgot to apologize

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>>158470834
I only posted about Michigan but since this board doesn't have IDs, I see why some arguments appear to get blended together.
>>158470947
Doesn't really matter since the new SEC rotation means you play "permanent" rivals 100% of the seasons and everyone else 50% of the seasons. Everyone visits everyone else's stadium at least once during a four year period and for permanent rivals, it's every other year. It's not like the old system where a team could go over a decade without seeing the other team's stadium. LSU and Alabama don't play every year but now they play every other year. Don't see that as a huge issue since Auburn and Tennessee are their actual arch rivals and LSU has only been a thing lately because both were good and have shared coaches.
>>158477291
They wanted AFA and UNLV but the Mountain West showered them with money to stay. Can't say I blame them as the opportunity to join the PAC will still be there once the current Montain West bribe expires.

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Huge day for college football, literally nothing else matters tonight at 7pm

>>158470947
Unfortunately we have to deal with republicans who thinks everything needs to be sold to higher bidder and that highest bidder is Israel, so everything in the country has to become enshittified so it can make the most immediate revenue
College football managed to hold out for decades past when it should have been commercialized which is a miracle

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should Ohio (including IPs on this board) be banned from college sports until they become a US state?