Neuer is clearly washed. Raya is another overhyped Arsenal shitter who isn't even good enough to start for Spain. Dibu only tries when he plays for Argentina. This leaves...uh?? Are there even any good young prospects coming up?Pic unrelated of course.
If youth soccer is anything like youth hockey, only weirdos and autists want to play the position where you stand by yourself and get blamed for every loss
>>158462626Does hockey also have sweeper keepers and keepers who play from the back?
>>158462680There's goalies that constantly come out of their net to try to pass the puck like a real player and often get embarrassed
>>158462680no, more just out of position guys who make spectacular saves because they are flailing, and guys who know where to be, limiting their movement
>>158462566>prospectsPandersHe's still raw however
>>158462566Verbruggen
>>158463255Well not elite yet, but he'll become soon. Watch Bayern, PSG or Real sign in the near future
>>158462566Keepers are the players everyone argues the most about (if they get attention). You will find people who will adamantly claim that Buffon, Neuer, Casillas, Kahn etc were all total frauds, for example. Objectively judging a keeper is harder than objectively judging a field player isKeepers also tend to be late bloomers in many cases. Neuer is 40 today and obviously washed because of this age, but his star rose in 2010, when he was 24. He wouldn't have been a starter for Germany without René Adler injuring himself btw. Before the 2010 World Cup, Neuer was known in Germany as a pretty good keeper, but he had basically no international standing at all. A field player breaking through at 24 is very rare, but for keepers, it is somewhat common. They have strange career trajectories at timesEspecially today, it's hard to talk about keepers since they are now expected to also be excellent with the ball on their feetI cannot think of any super clear examples of elite keepers either. And naming promising talents is very unreliable, the last one to really be an obvious pick was Donnarumma, but he's the total exception since almost no one actually is a starter at 17
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>>158462566Svilar probably
>>158462566the belgian langlet isnt even the best right now nor the best of his generationDiogo Costa is currently the best gk in the world
>>158465346Why is Costa in his late 20s and still playing for Porto then?
>>158466942Do not look up at what age Van der Sar joined Man U
For me? It's Patrick Roy
>>158462566Donnarumma can stop bullets
>>158462626Sounds based desu
>>158466942It is called love and the board fearing the inevitable destruction of the team that would follow, you wouldn't understand
>>158462566Courtoise
>>158463523>He wouldn't have been a starter for Germany without René Adler injuring himself btwIt wasn't for Enke offing himself?
>>158479274Enke would have been in the squad, but not as number 1. Adler was shaping up to be the clear frontrunner due to being younger and playing at a more successful clubAlso, remember Enke killed himself in late 2009 already, that was enough time to adjust plans. Before that, it was a close race Adler seemed to be gaining the upper hand in. He was then named the starting keeper in spring 2010Adler injured himself in May 2010, that's what made Neuer the starting keeper
>>158479274Jogi probably wanted to enter the tournament with Adler and Enke as 1 and 2, both battling out who actually plays. Adler was more likely to win in the long run, Enke already would have been 33 as opposed to Adler's 25 years. Not a bad age of course, but when two keepers are evenly matched, you usually pick the younger one since it is a long-term solution. Adler had more lobby power behind him than Enke, he was the rising starNeuer had a chance to be nominated as the third keeper, but it's hard to say. Maybe Jogi would have picked a veteran (like he eventually did with Butt) for that position as well. In any case, Adler was the one overshadowing Neuer at that point since they were of a similar age. Neuer did get his first game for Germany in June of 2009 already and was respected as a great option for the future, but Adler definitely had the upper hand on him at that point. Adler getting injured and Neuer playing a good tournament with a successful and refreshing young team followed by a very strong 2010/11 club season then sealed the deal. Especially as Adler continued to rack up injuriesBy the time Enke died in November of 2009, Neuer wasn't really close to the #1 spot yet. Adler injuring himself a bit over half a year later is what made that happen. In the mean time, Neuer had improved as wellWithout Enke's death, Adler would have beaten Neuer for sure. Without Adler's injury, Enke arguably would have beaten Neuer before being replaced by him after the World Cup, but I am not quite so sure. Neuer needed both to happen, but Adler was the main one
>>158479619>>158479837Way too good posts for /sp/, bro.
>>158463523>CasillasHe was a fraud compared to his fame tho, couldn't take crosses out and was chipped way too often.Cech was the best since Kahn anyways.>AdlerEnke was already #1 but asked for some time away hence why Adler got in before that butcher fest Argentina friendly.
>>158469280Forget Van der Sar was already a starting keeper at Ajax and Juventus
>>158462566Yeah raya gets cucked in NT selection like arteta did as a player but if he wasn't as good as he is, arsenal don't break their title drought last season