>>158556328
about time.

pochetinno got very unlucky at psg, he doinated shitty in the CL, but they were extremely lucky. well I reckon psg got very lucky against bayern.

>>158556328
ameribros why would poch just dump usa like yesterdays trash when they have better players than man utd

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>>158556340
he was really shit with chelsea and the american team though

>>158556343
Shit program, shit players, nepotism and no real desire to actually develop good players.

Please take him United, fuck Poch

>>158556348
was unlucky with team usa at the world cup. same he was unlucky in the cl final with spurs. the problem is that he's not a "league" manager, but he can do things in cups.

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>poch is a 55 year old boomer now
i remember when he was in his prime a decade ago with spurs. also the last time he was relevant as a manager

kinda crazy he won fuck all with prime lloris alderweireld vertonghen walker trippier son and kane, that team was stacked

>>158556363
Good managers create their own luck.

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>>158556357
kek. whats he done that made you feel this way?

>>158556357
Fuck the only guy that got you playing anything that looks like football?

>>158556363
well he will fit at man utd because theyre not a league team for like 15 years

>>158556328
OH HECK NO

https://reddit.com/r/coys/comments/1xs5ctt/ornstein_manchester_united_expected_to_sack/?sort=controversial

spurs not happy kek

>>158556383
>>158556387
He’s a good manager and his teams play exciting attacking football but any time we come up against a real European or South American side trying to play that way we’re going to get embarrassed because our players aren’t good enough. We need a manager that will have us playing boring terrorist football and trying to win on counter attacks

>>158556433
conte is available...

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It was his turn...

>>158556415
americans seem pleased her going

https://reddit.com/r/ussoccer/comments/1xs5ev0/athleticornstein_carrick_expected_to_be_sacked_by/

>>158556444
Someone like that would be ideal, Conte would hang up the phone before the US finished their pitch though. Mourinho is probably the most prestigious name we could realistically land and even that is a long shot.

>>158556452
hes taking the USA job
...until next november when poch gets sacked

According to ESPN these are the potential next USMNT coaches:
>Steve Cherundolo (U23 coach)
>Mikey Varas (USMNT assistant coach)
>BJ Callaghan (Nashville SC)
>Gareth Southgate (you know)
>Pep Guadiola (you know)
>Pellergrino Matarazzo (Real Sociedad but American born)
>Brian Schmetzer (Seattle Sounders coach for over 24 years)

I would say Cherundolo but the USMNT doesnt have enough U23 players that have coached him to go senior yet. The same De La Fuente and Southgate has. Also really Schmetzer?! He's been coaching in Seattle since 2002 idk if he wants something new

>>158556489
>Pep
>taking a job where he doesnt have some kind of bullshit advantage over everyone
kek.

is ten hag available? or even slot?

NOOOO
We wouldve actually got man utd relegated if carrick stayed
Why would anyone want to manage that shitshow? I hope poch doesnt go, he seems like a good manager

>>158556489
eddie howe to USA is a done deal

>>158556489
get thomas frank in
or nuno

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>>158556343
He was just a stopgap. We want Herv Rennard

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/m-mug/bros... n-not the mighty Poch...

The man who brought Spurs to a CL final... who defeated the mighty Ajax to finish second place...

Tell me ABLbros... are we cooked????

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>>158556600
I got sad news for you. The King of Africa (only beating Claude Le Roy) signed a few weeks ago to coach Ivory Coast for $2.3m a year

>>158556328
Didn't except him to stay after the world cup

>>158556489
When they hired Dolo for the Olympic spot, it felt like it was priming him to take over
Not overly improved but unless they can pull Mata don't really think it matters that much
Also Varas is San Diego's coach

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>>158556626
Thank you Ivorian Coaster for the sad news

>>158556608
>ABLbros
mong

>>158556600
Stop promoting thia fucking fraud
He's the memest meme

United fans seem like the absolute dumbest goyim alive. How do you celebrate this when you still have these passionless bums playing for you

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>>158556654
>he doesn't know that Pochettino's nickname is Luncho

State of this subredit

>>158556688
>Luncho
Explains why the Yanks wanted him then

>>158556343
He did a pretty good job in the world cup but it was pretty clear he wasn't elevating the level (we got embarrassed by Belgium in March as well)
I didn't think he was going to stay until 2030 so I didn't know why they offered the contract or why he took it

>>158556489
It's either Dolo as the guy or Dolo as the interim
They aren't getting a current MLS guy

>>158556353
but enough about man united

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IM THE /MUG/GERNAUT, BITCH

someone ai slop the jugg with the mug root beer livery

>>158556343
He realized the USMNT is beyond saving

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Anybody want to shop this epic image with the faces of the Glazers, or Ratcliffe or Bruno or the Man Utd logo?

Thank you.

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Why did we never update this image?

>>158556783
We got 4 wins from 4 games with a youth squad last window

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>taking away both /mug/ and my NT’s coach

>>158556908
its /mug/ver...

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>>158556854

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>>158556965
Based

They're getting relegated then.

>>158556328
Another one to do the humiliation ritual of managing modern united, might as well be the sports management equivalent of darksydephil, selling your dignity and reputation for money

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United must be paying like £100m/year in alimony to former managers at this point.

Poch sucks and not even american. Never should have even let him back on the bus after that belgium disaster. All of europe just laughed at us and was bs because we're a top 10 team in the world

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>>158557115
But can you not look at all of the terrific signings he made at Chelsea from 2023 to 2024.

He is a perfect appointment for Manchester United, only short of Gareth Southgate.

his last game was a bizarre one and not the game i thought that would get him sacked

i can only imagine what happened for Poch to go fuck this shit i'll go manage man united then again Poch is a big fan of taking what can on paper described as potentially horrendous jobs


2014–2019 Tottenham Hotspur
2021–2022 Paris Saint-Germain
2023–2024 Chelsea
2024–2026 United States
2024–2028 Manchester United

>>158556717
>t. Balding, fat, out of shape alcoholic, ex smoker with poor dental hygiene

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>>158556328
when is Rppney taking over

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>>158556328
So it happened again
fucking hell even gary neville's a /mug/ger

>>158558790
never gary forces him to talk to goldbridge every week for a pittance, he's got too many turkish surgeons to pay off

>>158556861
>with a youth squad
well that's part of the problem, you can't expect your best lineup to actually perform well if they don't get the minutes to build chemistry and get experience playing together.

Any chance we can get big FAT sam?

>>158556340
>, he doinated shitty in the CL
Beating City at home in the groupe stage is all he did

>Def getting relegated if we appoint that fool.
>id rather go managerless than have Poch anywhere near our club.
>Poch is a Muppet.
>Poch as his replacement is so uninspiring. Hope we put in some clauses that make replacing him in the summer easy.
>Have I not suffered enough, fecking Pochettino
>Do not want Poch, not the right manager for us at all.
>Poch is only one of a few managers that I wouldn't even take before Carrick.
Reminder that these fans cheered Michael Carrick off the pitch with the club in the relegation zone

Poch's a fraud

>>158562830
He failed to win Uber Eats Ligue 1 with Mbappe and Neymar in the team

>>158562858
Michael Carrick failed to be promoted from the Championship and keep Man United out of the relegation zone but I suppose Pochettino didn't play under Fergie

>>158562865
Who cares about Carrick? We always knew he was garbage. Poch has a better reputation but that doesnt mean he isnt fraudulent

Arne Slot would've unironically been a better choice
You'll get the same counter-attacking shit with Puck

In many ways united and poch have always fancied each other. Going back years. Every time he's moved, united have had a look. Never quite happened for one reason or another. When he moved to spurs, united moved for van gaal. When had went to PSG, it was the tail end of Mourinho / start of Solskjaers interim. Ten Hag when Poch went to Chelsea.

It could be a good fit. Poch likes clubs where he can settle in, he's been itching to come back to the premiership. United tend to give managers a fair crack, they let the shit hit the fan, then give it a few more months. The fans tend to stick with managers to the bitter end. He'll probably have negotiated his contract to wrestle a bit more control back from wilcox and berrada. Then he hasnt got a lot to lose has he really, the only way is quite literally up surely, they're in the relegation zone.

The the squad is lacking. Injuries are a problem. When teams are low on confidence and shit, its not unusual for players to mysteriously pick up injuries, in this united side anyway. But they've got enough to get back up the table, and they look completely uncoached. What even is their tactics or style of play, there is no chemistry, no patterns of play, nothing fuck all, they just play on instinct. So if he can establish tactical discipline, develop patterns of play, resemble some sort of real football team, beside a shit result here and there, he'll be fine. The key is what they do in the summer, and how he avoids falling victim to 2nd season syndrome that has ruined every manager before him pretty much.

If this fails. I really don't know where the glazers and ineos go from here. Its time to go

it's time for soufgate

>>158562940
No to bald fraud

>>158562948
>avoids falling victim to 2nd season syndrome that has ruined every manager before him pretty much
United 2nd season syndrome happened again and again because the board got complacent and stopped giving the managers the players they needed. No doubt it will happen to Poch too, especially with Wilcox's 'this window we'll buy forwards only, next window midfielders' transfer strategy

have united ever had a decent argentinian? im sure theres some bench player somewhere who was ok but off the top of my head

veron-giga flop bald fraud that started it all
rojo-red card addict
di maria-good player but said manchester was a 3rd world crime ridden shithole and his wife said everyone from manchester was an ugly mong
heinze-refused to play because he wanted to go to liverpoo
garnacho-retard who thought he was pele then went around town wearing other teams kits that he wanted to play for while a united player
martinez-insane midget who cut a shoot promo on the club
tevez-went to city then held up a tombstone with fergie on it


honestly poch is inheriting a proud lineage of argies at utd

>>158563079
Yep I'm expecting more of the same.

But from poch's perspective alone, he can’t enter this like every other manager has. Comes in mid season, results pick up, the good vibes are back, this squad is brilliant, they’re all good lads, they all care. They’re shit houses. This squad of players will fuck him over. This ownership will let him down. So he has think, its coming, not a case of if. It is coming. They will fuck him over. So what steps can he take to prevent that, whats he going to do, when it arrives. Not only how does he get results now and start moving up the table, but whats he going to do when the ownership piss him about and the squad lets him down.

Certain people defend the owners based on money spent and trophies won since Fergie retired, in comparison to other clubs. They could have spent more, could have spent it better, could have won more. The owners have to go. This is manchester united we're talking about, not some tin pot club. The owners have rendered it a tin pot club.

>>158562895
Replacing a terrible manager with a better manager is a positive step thoughbeit

Such a lukewarm appointment. /mug/ lives on.

>>158556681
>United fans seem like the absolute dumbest goyim alive

thats why theyre owned by the smartest jews

>luke shaw kills another

Van Gaal, mourinho, Solskjaer, Ragnick, ten Haag, Amorim, Carrick, new manager.

and that excludes interims of fletcher and van Nistelrooy etc

Poch is absolutely the right guy, he's just what Man U needs, I expect

>2nd/3rd by Christmas
>Playoff round in the champs league but they get through that easily, SF/Final finish
>FA Cup win

Don't forget we were 3rd last season, we are probably the second best team in the PL currently pound for pound

>>158556348
Fat bastard

>>158562948
He will start demanding more in training, players will eventually get frustrated with having to work hard, start drawing and losing games, united legends will attack Poch, he gets sacked. Nothing changes.

Or do you really believe this time, united will actually get rid by any means necessary of Rashford, Dalot, Maguire, Bruno, Shaw sp on and so forth and start from scratch?

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>>158556328
>poch
another shit manager with no balls

should be him

>>158563658
united have enough bloodsuckers involved already

>>158556363
>>158556340
>unlucky
>unlucky
>unlucky
>unlucky

At some point it stops being luck and is just poor coaching

>>158556328
Another fraud, why not try a good coach

>Manchester United head coach Michael Carrick's future will be decided at a meeting attended by owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe and executives Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox in Monaco on Wednesday

lol

>>158563658
>should be him
I don't see anything

>>158556949
the lads

Pochettino hasn't done anything worthwhile since Southampton

>>158563431
Pochettino used to stop Luke Shaw from eating at Southampton

>>158556908
You're crazy if you think United are going to suddenly be good. Their defense spreads its ass at leasf twice a game. While there might be a short term bounce, I could just as easily see things getting worse as all the senior players completely give up.

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muh philosophy -> tactical disciplinarian -> former club player yes man -> repeat

>Man Utd chiefs Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox head to Monaco today ahead of pre-planned talks with owners. Recommendation on Michael Carrick’s future expected but confirmation unlikely before Thurs. Providing Carrick extra coaching support also on agenda.
Not so fast, /mug/gers

>[The Athletic] The buyout clause in U.S. men’s national team head coach Mauricio Pochettino’s contract is in the ballpark of $10 million, sources briefed on the situation tell The Athletic. To also buy out Pochettino’s assistant coaches, United would have to pay millions more dollars, sources added.

>>158563989
They spent £50m on Andrey Santos

>>158563989
How much has been spent on buyout clauses and premature termination compensations involving managers by this club since 2013?

>>158563989
2018-2019: Chose Ole instead of Pochettino
2022: He was free and signed ETH instead
2024: He was free and United stick with ETH and fired him afterwards.

It’s like 8-10 years late to hire him, isn’t it? Always wanted him but never signed when he was free and now we’re ok to pay £10+million?

>>158563995
Yeah, I wonder if the money it will cost to sack Carrick and all his coaches, and hire Pochettino and all his coaches, could have paid for a left back. It's got to be costing in the region of £25m to make this change. 25 here, 15 for ten hag, 10 for Ashworth. Enough for one Santos lol

>>158563989
10 million is around what we "saved" by ineos sacking all those regular workers which was deemed vital while blowing similar amounts repeatedly on failed ineos managers and executives

>>158564040
Billionaire mindset at work

Yeah hire more tea ladies that'll win the league

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>>158556328
As a white Mexican man I find this extremely concerning. The US team might go from number 4 team in the region to number 2.

Now we'll have the infamous ineos "process" of box ticking and multiple rounds of interviews to "identify the outstanding candidate", which will all be for nothing anyway, because he'll be another manager sacked in 2 years.

>>158564203
Yeah they should just keep one manager forever like all the other teams

>>158563989
Bro if I was Ratlip I'm not spending 10m on Poch. Nagelsmann is free

>>158564203
>2 years
optimistic i see

So we are going for a guy who prefers playing attacking fullbacks and a high line. It would be some sight watching Shaw, De Ligt, Maguire and Martinez shit their pants trying to play a high line

>>158563049
Might as well just poach Vincent Kompany lol. Then we can have former City men at CEO, DOF, Manager.

>>158564209
You're attempt at sarcasm didnt come off. The process of appointing the manager, was the overriding point. Or here is an idea, maybe get one right, considering the past 6 have all failed.

>>158564280
Well. A year and half. It will be good vibes for the rest of this season, as long as he doesnt ruffle too many feathers. Next season, is when they'll throw him under the bus

>>158564297
Who's the right one then given you can apparently see the future?

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>>158564307
Is there a right one, considering who's above them? Arguably not. My stance is the glazers, ineos and footballing executives have got to go. Ineos bought a stake in the club and took over footballing operations. They have no proven track record of success in sport, none. Manchester United werent the first football club they invested in, and still got it wrong. They've got every major decision wrong.

You can make a case for loads of managers, based on their own strengths and weaknesses, but whats the point, they'll all be up against it

>>158563509
>Or do you really believe this time, united will actually get rid by any means necessary of Rashford, Dalot, Maguire, Bruno, Shaw sp on and so forth and start from scratch?
These players have all been there so fucking long, surely their contracts are coming up and they can be let go? Surely, unless ManU are giga-retarded and re-sign these players, they will have left the club by default in a couple of years?

>>158556489
real ball knowers know that BJ Callaghan is the right answer

>>158564531
Fuck off

>>158564531
i'm fine with him or dolo. manure bailing us out of an underwhelming, stale cycle while paying us a nice $10m tip

>>158564532
you can't possibly expect Nashville to hold on to him after they broke the points record
if it's not the USMNT, it'll be some bum-ass french or championship club that snaps him up
besides, wouldn't you rather have him win for your country instead of your club? ;)

i think youve got to judge poch on his chelsea tenure

spurs was a decade ago
psg he lasted 1 year but they have high standards
international management is a different ballgame
so here he is compared to other chelsea managers in win percentage

COACH W%
Avram Grant 0.688
Antonio Conte 0.671
José Mourinho 0.664
Carlo Ancelotti 0.632
Rafael Benítez 0.577
Felipe Scolari 0.56
Thomas Tuchel 0.556
Maurizio Sarri 0.553
Guus Hiddink 0.529
Roberto Di Matteo 0.522
Claudio Ranieri 0.521
Xabi Alonso 0.5
Enzo Maresca 0.491
André Villas-Boas 0.481
Gianluca Vialli 0.479
Ruud Gullit 0.476
Mauricio Pochettino 0.474
Frank Lampard 0.439
Liam Rosenior 0.385

got to bear in mind some of these newer ones had free wins due to being in the conference league though

>>158564546
First of all that record has been broken like 7 times in 10 years
Doesn't mean anything
Secondly, I don't want to hear the bitching about getting a MLS guy again
I don't think anyone wants to see Nashville's tactics with the NT
After the free flowing attacks we just saw at the WC

usa should steal marsch from canada, hes got them as the best team in concacaf.
you know he would do it, and it would cause a melty

>expected
>literally all the grifters like Brent were going on about 'sacking Carrick' last night at 23:00
>still not sacked
>only articles are 'expected decision by Wednesday'
lol. lmao.

>>158564580
>>158564546
what are the chances that two people are responding to one another with strange line breaks like some sort of gay poem

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>>158564584
>hes got them as the best team in concacaf.

>United is for sale
Wow. LOL.

[Ducker] Jason Wilcox and Omar Berrada to keep jobs despite Man Utd chaos

>>158564584
Trve! From turning yanited states to a world beater to turning Manchester yanited into the undisputed English and European champions

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>>158564568

United should only keep Carrick if they think nobody else can lead united to 1 win in 10 games

It's absolute chaos jesus christ.

>>158565063
what's happening now?

[Wheeler, Salt] Man United Confidential: Jim Ratcliffe makes new 'brutal' cutbacks to ex-players' charity, Nathan Collins and Calvin Bassey among January targets, Luke Shaw eyes Anfield return and why club confiscated two anti-owner banners

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/football/article-16281981/Man-United-Jim-Ratcliffe-cuts-charity-transfers-Collins-Bassey-banners.html

>>158565411
Collins and Bassey? Christ, why not just come out and say you've got no interest at all in making the team better?

Isn't Chelshit in worse position overall the past 2 years than Man U? Why didn't Xabi get sacked first?

>>158565456
chelsea usually do their sackings in december, wheras united do it in november. trust the process

>>158565411
>Nathan Collins and Calvin Bassey among January targets
lmao what the fuck am I reading

>>158565513
>>158565411
>>158565433
There are better LB who should be available who aren't expensive as well. Terracciano, Parisi and Homenchenko.

>>158565598
brother youre on meth if you think jim ratcliffe knows about players from the mexican league
look at his signings. mbuemo cunha telimans santos baleba. if theyre not in the prem hes not interested.

>>158565411
>Calvin Bassey
Jesus Christ. Embarrassing

>>158565631
Well Parisi and Terracciano are in Serie A. Should be known.

>>158565456
Well Chelsea finished 10th last year and are now 5th. United finished 3rd last year and are now 18th.

>>158556328
I dont get the obsession. He had plenty of time and we were still dog shit

>>158565709
brother youre on meth if you think jim ratcliffe knows about players from the italian league
look at his signings. mbuemo cunha telimans santos baleba. if theyre not in the prem hes not interested.

If they go ahead, worth knowing what it's cost before. United's own results releases show the exceptional charge booked each time a permanent manager left:

Moyes £5.2m, Van Gaal £8.4m, Mourinho £19.6m, Solskjaer £10.0m, Ten Hag £14.5m, Amorim £16.7m (plus a £5.2m write-off of hiring costs). £74.4m across six managers! The results aren't great but more money not being spent on the players

>>158566765
If /are Jim/ is signing the players then there's an issue right there.

>>158556949
kek

Gary Neville on Sky Sports:

>Carrick pleased the home supporters with many passages of play from the performance, just like my wife is pleased with the teenage boy who spent the night with my wife last Wednesday. The problem here is that Carrick seems to think it's acceptable to concede 4 goals at Old Trafford.

>While there is much to work on, Carrick needs to reduce the amount of goals being conceded. Why should United concede as much on 14:00 before my wife spent her massage time on that same day??

>Ultimately, this club is spending too much. Just like the amount I'm spending on an extension so that we can have an extra bedroom, I don't see why we need an extra bedroom.

>Pochettino needs to fix all this.

>>158565411
>Nathan Collins and Calvin Bassey among January targets
Hey big spender

>>158568334
shirley utd cant be serious