Now what? edition>Senior teamSat 11/14 4:30e/1:30p CNL QF leg 1 at Haiti (in Miami) TBS/truTV/HBO Max/Universo/Peacock/Westwood One Radio/FDP RadioTue 11/17 7e/4p CNL QF leg 2 vs Haiti (in Cincinnati) TBS/truTV/HBO Max/Universo/Peacock/Westwood One Radio/FDP Radio>Olympic team (2005)Sun 11/15 9am e/6am p (3p local) vs Scotland u-21 (in San Pedro del Pinatar, Spain)Tue 11/17 8am e/5am p (2p local) vs Ukraine u-21 (in San Pedro del Pinatar, Spain)>U-20 (2007)Thu 11/12 8e/5p vs Japan (NTC in Atlanta)Sat 11/14 7e/4p vs Colombia (NTC in Atlanta)Tue 11/17 12pm e/9am p vs Paraguay (NTC in Atlanta)>U-19 (2008)Sat 11/14 8am e/5am p (4pm local) vs Jordan (Antalya, Turkey)Mon 11/16 8am e/5am p (4pm local) vs Indonesia (Antalya, Turkey)>U-18 (2009)Sun 11/15 3e/12p (8pm local) vs Norway (Santarém, Portugal)Tue 11/17 1e/10p (6pm local) vs Portugal (Santarém, Portugal)>U-17 (2009)FIFA U-17 World Cup Group Stage — QatarGroup JSat 11/21 9:30am e/6:30am p (5:30pm local) vs Montenegro FS2/FSDTue 11/24 9:30am e/6:30am p (5:30pm local) vs Chile FS2/FSDSat 11/27 10am e/7am p (6pm local) vs Algeria FS2/FSD>U-17 (2010)Sat 11/14 11am e/8am p vs Canada (San Jose, Costa Rica)Tue 11/17 11am e/8am p vs Costa Rica (San Jose, Costa Rica)
Fuck them kids, USLC playoffs are on
No really, is shitizen posting on /epl/
>>158557422I recommend Bojan HodakThis Croatian lad managed to win my local league 3x in a row
Glad he's leaving. Glorified Ruben Amorim. Lost us the belgium game by playing a back three…against a team with Doku and Trossard on the wings. Absolute dipshit and fraud. Bet that’s a fucking wig he’s wearing.
>>158565033He played a back 4 against Belgium you fucking doofus
>>158565033What lost you that game was corruption, trump getting into bed with infantino. Belgium got a huge motivational boost from that. They're also a better side.
>yanks really think they will get someone better than PochAmusing. He was too good for you lot anyway
>>158567307I mean we lost to them 5-2 back in March so idk what any of that had to do with it
>>158567312>yanks really think they will get someone better than PochWho is saying this? Tell me
>>158567312Meanwhile during the world cup the narrative was>yanks really think they will win anything with Poch
>>158567339You don't know why that had anything to do with it, because its not related to Belgium being a better side, and you don't know anything about football. Belgium entered that game, particularly motivated, with the support of the world willing them to beat the USA and knock them out of the tournament. That was because of the corruption and the most jewish world cup in history
>>158567307>>158567405>still crying about muh corruption while FIFA will continue to own """"the beautiful game""""Do something about it then, you anemic retard.>D-Dey was super motivated, they had THE WORLD behind them!Meanwhile the real reason was because of our dogshit goalie and grossly overrated players. Keep telling yourself you stuck it to le ebil america tho if it makes you feel better.
>>158567307>motivationalyeah they were probably taking a world cup knockout game lightly otherwise. this is bullshit that fans tell themselves
whenever you think /sp/ is retarded just remember it could be worse
>>158567262Kys
>>158567524>while FIFA will continue to ownThey don't own anything. IFAB does. They decide the rules.
>>158567710>some Google graphicOh you sure got me lmao
>>158569022It’s so funny to imagine you googling the game and then deciding to double down on being retarded
>>158565033Ahh i remember when you guys praised his back three tactic
>>158569651I fucking watched the game manJedi played back as a leftback, Freeman played wide as a rightbackIt was a different formation from the Paraguay/Australia/Bosnia games
>>158557422If he leaves it will be unforgiveable. A great betrayal. We gave him so much money and that should mean something.
Pochettino's ability to fail upwards is astounding. What about the USA's complete meltdown against Belgium, at home, convinced Man United's board that he's the guy to handle any big games they might play?
>>158567524>Do something about itWhat about I going to do, hold Trump to account?>Anaemiclmao what...Football is going to hold Infantino to account and your own country is holding Trump to account by the looks of it. >D-Dey was super motivatedI speak English. The mother language anon. Please remember that. >>158567542Belgium wasted their golden generation. They're infamous for their wishy washy underwhelming, unmotivated, divisive performances. They often squabble among themselves and with the manager. It was a bad world cup anyway, awful in fact. Jewish personified. No country took their real support. Ad breaks. Soulless stadiums, slow shit football, bad pitches etc. The world hated it. But when news leaked that americans were in cahoots with infantino to sell football out, along with trump personally and brazenly trying to rig the tournament, at Belgium's expense, that was a significant source of motivation for Belgium. There was a sense of injustice and anti american sentiment peaked. Belgium went into that game with the mentality of putting the USA to the sword, and they did. That sort of mentality, has often been missing from Belgium. Nice try you retarded mutts
Should we re-hire Poch after he’s sacked in ~1 years time?
>>158567401Now you’re getting it
They’re just going to promote cherundolo and give him a chance right? That seemed obvious
>>158574367Why would you want to? He's shite.
>>158574422We played better soccer under him than anyone else
>>158574422You're so rattled and angry about united hiring poch lmao but why, youre foaming at the mouth and getting sweaty over it. Calm down, you'll have a heart attack you sped
>>158557422He was a failure as coach of usa. I feel crazy watching people act like this is a major loss
>>158574337Meds
>>158574441The US are dog shit. Its a miracle you even qualify for tournaments, never mind reaching the last 16. Going into that belguim game literally all americans on sp thought you were winning that lol
>>158574453You're rightEngland must have won every world cup game they've played against us
>>158574436What? I called Poch shite and didn't mention United. Why are you acting like he's already a club legend? You'll be saying the same thing as me come January.>>158574435Cos you have better players than you've ever had before, and were hosting the World Cup. The tactics and mentality of the team didn't get as much out of the players as they have to give. I'm confident with a better manager that US squad could have beat Belgium pretty comfortably.
>>158574499You clearly didn't see us in the copa america
>>158574487England being crap, doesnt make the USA good anon. We can both be shit. We can both swirl around the plug hole as countries and societies. You know that right. But England do have some sort of justified expectation, some sort of pedigree considering what theyve done in recent years and who they beat in qualifying. What was the USA expectation based on? Your team is shit, your fans are shit. "Right lads, semi final at least, the final, we can do this"
>>158574499Only sane person ITT. Unfortunately most Americans are still under the delusion that >foreign manager = good!We need a hard driver not an idealist
>>158574533What american managers are world class? The last one, the bald guy right? He was laughable, awful
>>158574527>What was the USA expectation based on?Idk what's the point of expecting to lose? Especially in a sport you don't follow enough to care outside once every four yearsI didn't think we were going to beat Belgium based on us getting our asses handed to us back in March.
>>158574551You couldn't beat him
>>158574507You didnt bring in Poch until after the Copa America.
>>158574560He couldnt beat anyone else though could he, hence why he was sacked and you hired a foreign manager that could
>>158574570Yeah it was a fucking comparison point, Ahmed
>>158574435In previous World Cups the USA have always played hard and been more than the sum of their parts. This was the first time I've seen them totally capitulate. The manager is to blame for not preparing them properly.
>>158574581Our performances against Paraguay and Australia were the best American performances in world cup games in historyAlso we did very poorly against the Dutch in 18 and Belgium in 14I know the 14 game went to ET but we gave up the most shots on goal in a world cup game ever
>>158574614The US has enough talent that it shouldn't even have to worry or care about Paraguay or Australia, and should be much more dangerous against teams like Belgium. Your next manager should be someone who doesn't look like he's playing for a draw whenever the opponent's team has a couple of washed old Serie A or Bundesliga players.
>>158574765>The US has enough talent that it shouldn't even have to worry or care about Paraguay or AustraliaAnd yet it took until Poch to play that way
>>158574551>What american managers are world class? None. What I’m trying to convey is that unfortunately there is very little critical analysis of a manager if he’s foreign. Same shit happened with Klinsmann and coincidentally he was a very similar manager to Poch. I value defensive solidity and neither of them brought that. Simeone would unironically be a fantastic manager for us.
He's going to coach the Haiti gamesNo word on who takes over for the Jamaica friendly in December
>>158574614>Our performances against Paraguay and Australia were the best American performances in world cup games in historyyou only started watching soccer this yearthat or youre mentally retarded
>>158575262When has the US ever played like that?Maybe 1930Sure they weren't the biggest wins in program history but the US playing pressing attacking soccer has never happened
>>158575337US vs spain 2009US vs portugal 2002US vs germany 2002US vs italy 2006US vs england 1950US vs england 2010US vs portufal 2014hell, USA vs uruguay just last yearthey play pressing football against concacaf shitters all the time, scoring against the POWERHOUSES of paruguay and australia means nothing
will poch be able to unlock my boy big zirk?
>>158567307Orange man bad
>>158575355I was talking strictly play style here, not resultsLike for example the Spain game in 09Great wom from a program standpoint but it wasn't like the US overwhelmed Spain with tenacity and attacking movement They bunkered down and hit Spain with two quick attacksBut that's just hoping and praying for resultsAlso Poch was the coach for the Uruguay game you're our of your goddamn mind
>>158575417better results and performances than the wc is what Im saying
>>158575895One is reasonably obtainable and might actually accept the job. The other is a fever dream wished up by delusional Indians.
>>158576268Why would Callaghan be so unobtainable? He's coached the team before?
>>158576281Kek
Look at these faggots
>>158575360Unironically maybe
>>158577679niggas think that shit applies to mls lmao
>>158575895The paradox is the skill gap On one hand you can get a guy that tries to elevate how Americans play techinical wise or on the other you have a guy that plays to our strengths more direct more athletic
>>158557540everything hes ever posted about arsenal has been true, youre just too delusional to see it
>>158584277He owns property in New York City
>>158584277did this really get banned?wtf jannies?
i mean usa are gonna suck nomatter who they pick just from how useless the youth coaching is there. but i think they should try and find a style of play and then keep appointing managers that want to play that same style. ive never even heard of any of these guys who are apparently interested in the job, but i think they should try and find coaches who play a hardworking physical style, because it suits the kind of players they can produce. more klopp than pep. i dont think it really makes a difference where the manager is from but youd like someone who has good english and also not so highly rated that they immediately fuck off because some big club wants them
Which bald fraud do you want?
We might actually get Pep kek
>>158585185No chance. You'll get Roberto Martinez and be over the moon with it
>>158585236Id rather an American or some lower table la liga manager than Martinez it’s time for him to retire or go to TurkeyThere’s way too much noise around the pep rumour rn
>>158585236martinez is the opposite of what they need. usa dont have the technical ability to play his style
>>158585185
I fucking told you Pocchetino was a fraud and a scam. That as soon as he saw anything decent he will abandon the ship. Never trust argentinians
>>158584261Head coaches for national teams dont raise anyone's technical abilities in a handful of days a year. National team coaches need to be tactically sound and uphold and identity that suits the card they're dealt. Its totally different from club
>>158585944Anyone who thought he would stay for the whole cycle is an idiotHe's not an American and he would have been away from the club game for 6 yearsWhy would he maintain that commitment?It's probably the reason Pep won't commit eitherDoes he really want to spend the next 3 years gameplanning against Guatemala or Barbados?
>>158585935As horrendous this would be, it's not happening anymore. This bald fuck is failing in MLS and there's way too much baggage associated with him after the reyna scandal. Word on the street is Guardiola and Nagelsmann are targets from our federation.
>>158586087>This bald fuck is failing in MLS?
usa should just get an interim manager for the next 6 months and get poch back when he gets fired at the end of the season
>>158586097He hasn't done shit with chicago last two seasons. Playoffs are so easy to enter for any non retarded mls team so that isn't an accomplishment. BJ at Nashville has done a better job in MLS and he's not being looked at by the federation either.
>>158586069yeah, i think the most important thing with a national team setup is stability and a long term plan, some americans dont like klinsmann but something like that. either a guy who is just done with club management and wants a long term retirement job or someone who teams bigger than USA wouldnt consider stealing. if you somehow did get pep you know hes fucking off in 2 years so theres no point. i dont think he suits your playstyle either but thats another conversation.
>>158586125Nashville didn't sell the golden boot winner to sign a geriatric Polack
Realistically we should be looking for Poch replacements from the same football style. Pep isn't that big of a possession merchant these days but he still wants world class midfielders that control the game and we don't have that as a national team. We're probably gonna have to get a German manager again who has similar ideas to Poch. Bielsa is a control freak and wouldn't be welcomed by US Soccer. Klopp is already taken by Germany and will probably stay the entire cycle, he would've been my number 1 choice.
>>158586087>Word on the street is Guardiola and Nagelsmann are targets from our federationWhy would either take it. United arent signing Poch because of what he's done with the US. Nagelsmann failed with Bayern Munich and Germany, he's not going to rebuild his reputation by managing the US. Guardiola probably has one more job in him, its going to be Barcelona 2.0
>>158586236Nagelsmann is not even 40 yet, he could easily spend another 4 year cycle bumming around and then going back to the club game
>>158586236i wouldnt say nagelsmann is a bigger name than poch and he took it. you never know with unemployed managers. theyre both just sitting around until a big club side sacks their manager and eventually they will get one of those jobs. if they did go to USA theyd just be sitting around the exact same way but getting paid to do so, so its not impossible
>>158586218agree with this. i cant see any manager in the top 5 leagues ditching their club mid season to take the usa job, so it would either have to be a guy from a smaller league or a guy without a job currently. i dont know how many of these that have a physical pressing style exist. a lot of ex bundesliga coaches would fit that. guys like ralph hasenhuttl, kasper hjulmand, roger schmidt, horst steffen, bo henriksen play that way. not exactly big names and i dont know if they could run something as big as usa but if you want a style fit there you go.
>>158586125Look manHe's goneYou don't have to spend more time coping and seething about him
>>158586532No one's seething at him, I gave you a response as to why he's been shit in MLS and I was originally responding to the english anon who mentioned him first
we dem moyes boys
>>158586546>He's been shit by doing what has been expected him ofYou're just a fucking retard
>>158586555DID YOU SEE THAT SCORE G2 GOALS FROM PEPIhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/aTVspy43xxINow this would be kino
>>158586569Seethe harder Bitchhalter fag
>>158586595You're the one seething
here is every MLS coach in the past 3 years ranked by win percentage1 Jesper Sørensen 66.7%2 Javier Mascherano 66.3%3 Steven Cherundolo 64.9%4 Wilfried Nancy 64.0%5 B.J. Callaghan 62.1%6 Pat Noonan 60.3%7 Gerardo 'Tata' Martino 60.2%8 Brian Schmetzer 58.0%9 Marko Mitrović 57.7%10 Eric Ramsay 56.9%
>>158586617Don't bother with the MLS guysMight as well just keep Dolo if we go domestic
>>158586665i thought people hated it when you didnt have a MLS guy. or maybe it was just the media or MLS itself but i remember non MLS coaches getting raged at for not calling up enough MLS players and preferring ones from europe, and the media/fans liking guys like berhalter because they called up MLS guys. idk though
>>158586706>i thought people hated it when you didnt have a MLS guy.Only homosexual MLS retards seethe and they're just a loud annoying minority. Most USMNT fans want good international coaches or at the very least an American with some European experience like Marsch.
But yeah USL is totally gonna have pro/rel
>>158587986>Population: Approximately 58,458 within city limits
>>158588219Metro area has nearly a million
What's wrong with getting an interim until Copa America and assessing from there?
SOUTHGATE BECONS
Losing a coach to Manchester United has to be one of the great accomplishments in American soccer history 2bh
>>158595825Nashville SC would beat the current MU setup
>>158595843They couldn't beat either of the Monterrey teams so we shouldn't be boasting
>>158595881Not a chi but people kind of underestimate Mexicans ability to beat anyone at soccer. Yes they more often lose but they have a feral murderball style that can unsettle anyone.
Poch knows u are all trash LOOOOOL. Not worth his time lmfao. Scammed usmnt. So pathetic you thought youd win the world cup
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Do you think the players are gonna get mad when they realize Poch isn't bringing them to Manchester with him?
