New CFP rankings are outPrev: >>158554168
lmfao at that penalty miami just got for putting multiple uprights on their video board
Bama making you seethe?
Rank JMU you cowards
>dropping the fake fg tdEternal shame>>158570461Banter
>>158570473Missouri simply refuses to leave the top 25
>>158570500undefeated (?) big ten champ UCLA would be 8th seed? the old boys club would chimp
>>158570473New Mexico is better than Boise State and both should be ranked desu
>>158570510>Missouri simply refuses to leave the top 25Gotta inflate that SEC strength of scheduleI'm so fucking done with this horseshit
>>158570446>still no bye for Notre LameThey’re more based than I thought
>>158570510>Here's that ranked SECSECSEC win I was telling you about
>>158570473LSU and Mizzou should be dropped, add New Mexico and SMU
>>158570510they, like my aggies, are usually overrated to give other teams ranked wins
>>158570473Bama over UCLA is legitimately fucking ridiculous
>>158570554just talked to the fellas and another holiday reunion against boise followed by a 2-TD spread against UCLA would be a dream scenario. sadly this is bound to change.
Mizzou’s best win is over 5-4 Florida, their best non-conference win is Kansas. They’ve gotten gaped by any half decent team they’ve played
>>158570617Bama should be #5 at the very best but honestly should be at #7
none of this matters next year.
>>158570617yeah outside of heavily discounting losses in games with injuries, there's no argument that you can make for bama over UCLA that you can't also apply to ND over UCLA. I get the sense they are maneuvering early to make sure that the SEC champ gets the 1 seed if they win out without having to do anything strange later on like they did last year.
>>158570617UCLA is missing a loss to a strong SEC team on their resume
>>158570659That's why we've got to argue and shit our pants over it while we still can.
>>158570659you said that two years ago
>>158570659>everyone in the top 10 this time next year literally has their ticket punched already barring a fucking plane crash>rest of the field will probably also be mostly set>the last few weeks of the season will mean practically fucking nothing
>>158570674also they have no mother fucking fans. in normal times ESPN would be all over an LA team leading the Big Ten. they can put the bruins in the shed and move them down a few spots because they don't have any fans or boosters to complain loud enough to affect the comittee
>>158570617UCLA has not played any teams as good as either of Bama's losses.
They’re making it impossible for any fewer than 5 SEC teams to make the yoff
>>158570708SECfags have been running their mouth about Mississippi State over Minnesota all season, suddenly that's no longer a quality win after UCLA beats them
>>158570708they have similar best wins, and bama has confirmed they can lose multiple times to teams above that level.
I can't believe this season is real.
Roll tide!
enough with the schizoshit
>>158570773>hardest game of the entire season is either pooregon without a QB or USCNot to take anything away from them but they seriously dodged absolutely fucking everyone
nice int, however
>>158570801do you understand how dog shit we have been the past 15 years? this same schedule this team is like 3-6 on average this decade
>>158570750Minnesota is 5-4, Miss State is 4-5. Why are you wasting my time (You)ing me about shitters.>>158570771UCLA hasn't proven anything at all about being on that level. UCLA over Bama would be fine, but we don't have any data to call either ranking wrong.
>>158570801Despite the recent natties this is the proof you need that top to bottom the SEC is better than the B1G. A few B1G teams each year somehow dodge every relevant team in their conference, but this never happens in the SEC.
>>158570867>Despite the recent natties
>>158570867Happened with Texas A&M last year, retard
>>158570867>A few B1G teams each year somehow dodge every relevant team in their conference, but this never happens in the SEC.uh, my aggies did this last year
>>158570852i think you got confused. UCLA beat oregon, which is roughly comparable to bama's two best wins according to the committee's own rankings. In game above that level, bama is 0-2, losing at home and losing the other game by 16. While I suspect UCLA would get pantsed even worse when they played that upper level, we don't have data on UCLA. however, we actually do have data on bama, contrary to what you said, and it's negative. we're merely speculating that the undefeteated team is worse than the 2-loss team, which can only be done by discounting existing data or supposing something negative in the place of missing data
>>158570446>CHUMP ROUND8 Tenn wins at home over 9 IndianaCheeky 12 Boise wins at 5 ND10 BYU wins at 7 Miami6 Texas wins at home over 11 Kentucky>QUARTERFINALS1 Georgia baptises 8 TennCheeky 12 Boise flushes 4 Pooins2 Utah jihads 10 BYU6 Texas beats 3 Bama on military-grade refball>SEMIFINALSCheeky 12 Boise over 1 Georgia2 Utah jihads 6 Texas>NATIONAL TITLE GAME2 Utah jihads Boise State>>mfw
>>158570867*checks cfp records straight up and ATS by conference*
>>158570867this doesnt happen in the SEC because every mid shitter like A&M and Florida and LSU and Kentucky is undeservedly ranked top 10 at some point, making the schedule look vastly harder than it is
>>158571009there's also two additional teams in the B1G, so there's a higher chance of dodging the top 4-5 if you can only at most play half of the conference
My god, I don't think Kent State's ever experienced such a tragic loss
>>158570539If UNM had a QB they'd be a lock. The 3rd string kid who has played all year is dogwater. He would go 6/25 with 4 picks in a playoff game
>>158570617UCLA's starting QB is out for the season. The committee will use that as an excuse to rank literally any SEC team above them, even if UCLA goes 13-0
>#2 Utahlol every cfp ranking got the whittingham chair
>>158571094If only Boise had UNMs defense or UNM had Boise's offense desu. UNM really should've beat Oklahoma, just couldn't string a good drive together.
My longhorns have more ranked wins than the entire ACC and are 1 loss away from potentially missing the playoffs. The bias against the SEC is unacceptable
>>158570473>They are still ranking MizzouLmfao it's going to be hysterical when all the SEC teams immediately lose again in the playoffs
>>158571108>bcs was shelved because of sec bias>playoff committee is now hated for sec biasNot saying its not there but perhaps going from computers to a group of randos wasnt the best idea
>>158571299>playoff committee is now hated>now there have been 2 completely undeserving playoff teams and they were both alabama
>>158571318Again my point remains Switching who was ranking teams resolved nothing
>>158571278You’ll still be wrong if you don’t think the SEC is the strongest conference. NFL draft will prove it once again. Just like it has each of the last 3 years
they should let fans vote for the 24th team
>>158571377there's what, 128 FBS teams? after the first 23 are picked, play a single game of smear the queer with one representative player sent by the remaining 105 teams last man standing gets his team the last spot
Coach Primate
>>158571437And there he is
>>158571156>Utah drastically improves after "losing" Whittingham>#2 and undefeated>Michigan regresses significantly after ditching an interim coach for Whittingham>Unranked with 4 losses and will likely finish the season with a losing recordWhat's Michigan thinking right now?Do you think their AD realizes he fucked up big time?What's the general mood of their boosters?
Bobcats what are you doing
>>158571318Ohio State in 2014 didn’t deserve to be in
>>158571437Bro, come on ... seriously?
>>158571522They cheated their way to a natty and are waiting out the sanctions until 2029 or whatev. I doubt any of them care if anything they're glad that Whittingham is shaping up to be the perfect fall guy for the next few sanction seasons
Meltdown by miami
>>158570918>UCLA beat oregon, which is roughly comparable to bama's two best wins according to the committee's own rankings.It may be comparable to half of Bama's two best wins, seeing as beating Oregon is only one win.>we're merely speculating that the undefeteated team is worse than the 2-loss team, which can only be done by discounting existing data or supposing something negative in the place of missing dataWe're simply not making a comparison which can't possibly be made. We can't compare UCLA's top 10 games to Alabama's because UCLA hasn't played any top 10 games, so we're not doing that.
>>158570890>>158570906Texas.
>>158571531They were a valid choice over Baylor. Baylor was an option as well, but so was aOSU. Still, knowing how many times we'd have to see aOSU in the playoffs, usually as a disappointment, it would be nice to have seen Baylor. Although they probably would have lost to Bama so it would have been Bama vs Oregon, and Bama might have won that one, so I guess I'm happy it was aOSU.TCU was not a valid choice.
>bama losing to two elite teams proves that they are also elitethe mind of a SECuck is a baffling thing
>>158571680They lost to a 7-6 Va Tech team at home, they were only included over Baylor/TCU because they’d draw a bigger tv audience
>>1585715312022 anOSU also. USC was punished for making its CCG while the buttguys were rewarded for sitting on their ass
>>158571691Baylor lost to a 7-6 WVU team. But seasons are more than one game long so they were still a valid choice.TCU was not in the conversation so do not bring them up. They had the same record as Baylor and lost to them. TCU was never going to be in over Baylor.
>>158570461It just means more
Is Oregon going to back door their way into the playoffs?
>>158571717TCU had a better resume than Ohio State that year.
>>158571663>we're not doing thatwe shouldn't be, but they are necessarily data points that currently result in alabama being ahead of UCLA. you're making my point for me.
>>158571299to be fair, the computers were mostly the result of voters. and if you pay attention to the AP, it's batshit insane
>>158571741I think Oregon will have to win the B1G to get in. Their last 3 games are Michigan, Sharty and Washington. None of those will move the needle.
>>158571108Fair or not, this (the qb consideration) is the precedent, and it doesn’t have anything to do with sec bias. See FSU under norvell’s one good year>>158570617UCLAs best win is 17-15 over Oregon. Say what you want about who deserves to be ranked higher between ucla and bama but.. be honest who do you really think would win on a neutral field?
>>158571823>be honest who do you really think would win on a neutral field?power ratings aren't rankings. If it were, ND and Miami would have been comfortably in ahead of alabama and oklahoma last year
>>158571522>What's Michigan thinking right now?They're pissed. 90% likely Whit is gone.>Do you think their AD realizes he fucked up big time?After the Indiana lost the university put out a statement that they're looking for a new AD ASAP.>What's the general mood of their boosters?Extremely pissed.
>>158571823FSU only played 1 game without their QB and they looked like shit. UCLA has played 4.5 games without their QB with 3 more to go. Very different situations.>it doesn’t have anything to do with sec biasI don't remember Georgia falling in the rankings after Carson Beck blew out his elbow in the SEC CCG. In fact, they moved up 3 spots to #2 after that game.
>>158570473Looks like 4 and 5 loss sec teams will make the field next year, lmao.
>Chris Weinke>Brandon Weedenwho else
>>158572428>Cam Rising>Michael Penix>Bo Nix
>>158572428Brandon Doman had a norwood 3 and a 401k before he had a 4000 yard season
>>158570773rolling
>>158572428>every punter from Australia
>>158572390bama could lose to vandy and auburn and make the playoffs. Auburn would end ranked and be a quality loss.
this is how rankings used to work btw
>>158570552>I'm so fucking doneSure you are. See you again tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day...
>>158570473>bama moved up to 3 What the fuck?
>>158573712Buy into the dip. Some blue collar chad back in her hometown is going to get her for cheap while she's at a social low.>>158572390With twenty-four teams, four loss teams will be somewhat common. Looking at recent years, I see Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Tennessee, Missouri, Notre Dame, Texas, NC State, Mississippi State, South Carolina, and Texas A&M all in the end of season top twenty-five. I left out LSU because their fourth loss was in the SEC Championship game that year, which will no longer be played.Most of these were 22-25, so with autobids, not all of them would make the cut but it's going to happen regularly.
>>158570773Only 1 fuckable girl on this whole cheerleading squad.I thought California was supposed to be where all the hotties are!What happened to that?
Why did Indiana drop 5 spots down during their bye week?
From previous thread>>158555684>>>158554990>>sec shit teams put 90-100k in the stands and have 70%+ bluechip ratios>NIGGA YOU CRAZY, AND A LIAR>Less than half of the sec schools have a capacity over 90k>7 of them are less than 80k>UGA's blue chip ratio, which is the highest, is only 68%>And the sec combined ratio is 43%>You do know the internet exists, right?>Go sell your lies elsewhere.
>>158573929Not enough quality losses to teams like miss state and Florida and South Carolina
>>158573929eSECpn is 100% financially invested in the sec and if you do not support them they will not support you, i.e. ever having you on or even mentioning your name or polling.
>>158573929>>158573943>>158573984try not going into OT against the 5-3 gophers in an already weaker B1G if you want the committee to take you seriously
>>158573930>1 kb
>>158573712You don't hate the jewish media enough.
>>158573929every p4 team they have played lost last week, and a bunch of teams that were marginally behind them had big weeks
>>158571848My point exactly. UCLAfags are acting like they deserve to be above Bama because they have fewer losses but any reasonable person would expect Alabama to beat them in a head to head. The committee is looking for the teams which are the best and if you're ranking them it should be Bama over UCLA. I do agree that the committees criteria is a little vague on who's the best though. But again. This is not the AP. It's not about what UCLA "deserves" whatever that means. It's about who's better. Which again, is most likely Bama >>158571860>FSU looked like shit after losing TravisOkay but they won their last game 16-6 over Louisville. What's your definition of "looking like shit"? 16-6 is not that bad. It's better than losing. Texas made the playoff that year they barely beat TCU, to me that's looking like shit. Bama, just a few games prior, BARELY squeaked past Auburn, at the end of the year mind you, in a game where they only won because Milroe hit some miraculous throw. If you think FSU beating Lousville 16-6 with a backup is "looking like shit" surely you agree these other games did too right? I'm not trying to relitigate the 2023 CFP but lets be clear FSU didn't just make it because they looked "like shit" or less dominant in their last game without travis - maybe that's 10% of it. The rest?The CFP committee really wanted to put Texass and Bama in the CFP because the media has a bias towards those teams. That's it.
>>158574097that's the opposite of your point. it's not about who's better, hence the reference to bama last year. The CFP rankings have never looked like power ratings. Ever.
>>158574103If it's not about who's better, then WHY would they take out FSU based on a QB injury in a game they fucking won? Doesn't the FSU thing show that it's about potential to win? Rather than what you deserve?We're talking in circles here. I feel like the FSU thing proves the committee is considering potential to win/who's better RATHER than who "deserves" to be in because they have the best recordHow would it even be the latter? Are you trying to say it is? What IS their criteria if its not picking the best teams?
>>158574128>then WHY would they take out FSU based on a QB injury in a game they fucking won? yeah great question, everyone has been saying this for years.>Doesn't the FSU thing show that it's about potential to win? Rather than what you deserve?no, as was already mentioned multiple times, there are numerous predictive metrics that show go-forward quality, including one that the committee explicitly references called FPI (which is largely corroborated by sagarin, elo, srs, sp+ etc etc etc). There's some general correlation between that and rankings, including the CFP rankings, but there are always drastic differences between CFP and predictive quality ratings. It is unequivocally not about "best", by their own implicit admission.
>>158573667I used to clear my schedule spend a whole day Saturday drinking, watching and posting. Now I watch my team sometimes and a few other games, show up here once in a while. I can only imagine it's going to get worse for me and others. What are you, the ESPN reverse psychology intern?
>>158573712Nice titties
>>158570801They’re losing to my Illini this week
>>158574181they'll still make the playoff
>>158573532Horrifically retarded loss column bias We created a committee specifically to avoid that
>>158574149Ok cool, I see what you're saying here. I was just thinking of it as a binary between "whos best" and ap style rankings. Thanks for the explanation anon
WTF Miami and Indiana were raped in the CFP Bracket polling
>>158570473JMU fan here, we don't deserve a top 25 ranking. Big shout out to Billy and his OC for ruining the perfect season.
Why are so many teams ducking Notre Dame? USC, Florida, Indiana, are they all scared of a team that aint never beat nobody?
>>158574236and to be fair, they are conspicuously vague about their goal in filling the field (best, most deserving, best resume, etc). Gives them berth to contradict themselves. The most cynical say it's about awarding teams that will generate the best ratings, but my cynical take tends to assume that they're balancing competing interest to keep their partners happy - competitive matchups to keep viewers and broadcasters happy, fairness to keep fans from turning against the construct, and keeping the conferences and ND happy so that they sign off on this system. It often pulls them in different directions, so it's important to note who on the committee is saying what and how they are framing the information they put out. usually their motivations around the margins are pretty obvious.
Friendly reminder that semenhole fans unironically believe this was a nail biter of a game that they would have won if they didn’t have some players sit out for the draft (and please don’t ask if UGA had players sit out for the draft too)
>>158573929IF THIS IS NOT BLATANT SEC BIAS AND ESPN BULLSHIT to punish the coach of IU for talking shit about the AP and Coaches the week before
why not just put bummer at #1 lmao, what a joke.
>>1585742699 conferences games and not enough incentive to get a big win OOC. Of course a few of them on the wrong side of bubble would love an opportunity for a big win to set them apart, see BYU this year. They'd be fucked if they played say, Virginia instead of ND
>>158574278>some playersvery stupid post
>>158574299But I thought expansion would make it so you're more incentivized to take a hard OOC game.
The writing is as clear as the day that EsecN wants to win the natty using cheating, stealing, and lying there way to the top. That whore got on EsecN at told Mike Greeny that IU deserve to move 5 spots from a bye week
>>158574309well compared to being locked out if you're 13-0 or 12-1, it certainly did. But it also requires a committee willing to weigh games approrpiately. It also requires admins to operate with a mindset that balances opportunity and risk, rather than one that's simply risk averse.
>>158574313Indiana didn't even deserve to be in the top 10. They've been scraping by awful teams all year, and the one time they went up against an OK team in Ohio State they lost.
>>158574313Conferences won't matter next year.Regular season won't matter next year.You're crying about nothing.
>>158574287>>158573929IU's schedule is weak as shit and they always bullshit their way out of games at the very end miraculously. See: them against the Golden goofers this year. They are literally 2022-23 TCU.
I for one can't wait to see one last UGa-Bama ccg where Gaylen gets btfo and follows up with a first-round exit. 4-loss bummer is good for the sport but I wish it would happen earlier in the season so we wouldn't have to waste a playoff spot
>>158574355how are they going to figure out which 115 teams to cut from the playoffs?
Why doesn’t Stanford just throw money from its infinite endowment at its football team to flex on the plebs? Zero reason they shouldn’t be a top 5 team year in year out in the NIL era
>>158574372Most casual viewers can't even name 24 teams.
>>158574356they are power rated a full TD and like 5 spots higher than that TCU, but I do see what you're saying
>>158574373Far more lucrative to build sports gambling digital infrastructure and take commissions from retards
>>158574333>>158574356you fagets really really really really really really really want to end the 1800 days since the EsecN won a natty by any means necessary
>>158574355
>>158574386what does that have to do with what i asked?
>>158574393obviously humans are needed to choose this methodology. it's not a given that this one is the best one. generally I agree though that we should set out rules, lean on a couple formulaic ranking systems, then let that play out without anyone making decisions based on their mood or orders.
>>158574400So you put in the 16ish teams that anybody gives a shit aboutAnd toss the other bids on the pavement for the poors to fight over
>>158574410so florida state, michigan and OU would be in this year?
>>158574418with 24 teams everybody's going
putting bama at three is a fukken slap in the face to college football A 2 Loss bama at 3????? And one of their losses was to lesser ranked opponent? Wtf are these rankings.
>>158574421so yes? A&M and Nebraska too?
>>158574432yeah niggaits 24 teams its liteverybody's goin
>>158574393I don't give a shit about the SEC. Indiana is fucking terrible.
You know how every year there's those kids who have crazy names like Wonderful Monds or Running Rabbit? We used to have a linebacker named THUNDER JUSTICE KECK, and that shit was never talked about in the same light
>>158574451so is bama for having the number 3 spot over ND who beat the number one team.
>>158574457The ladies call me Lightning because I always come first
>>158574465Bama would bootyblast ND.
Obviously showing their bias. Admitting their bias. IU as 4? Now they’re 9,after not playing? And no.1 is now no.9? These are clowns. No wonder they want 24. They have no clue as to how to rank a team. They say ND doesn’t play enough competition, but IU has the easiest schedule imaginable. Then they reverse course? What a joke this committee is.
>>158574465I do not give a shit about Alabama. Indiana needed coinflip wins over Nebraska, Michigan, and Minnesota. They fucking suck. They were pretty lucky not to lose vs Northwestern as well.
>>158574480i didnt mention IU I said ND should be number 3 not bama
>>158574485You responded to me talking about Indiana. I'm not talking about Notre Dame, I'm not talking about Alabama, I'm talking about Indiana you fucking retard. They suck, they should not be a top 10 team. It is that simple.
Say it ain't so. Deion on the hot seat? No way Colorado has the balls to fire him. The three safest coaches:Jason Eck @ New Mexico - Everyone knows he's going to get poached Jake Dickert @ Wake Forest - 50/50 odds that he staysBob Chesney @ UCLA - The school can keep him if they want. They have the resources but will they do the needful?Will Stein @ Kentucky - Some of the shine has come off but it's Kentucky. Some SEC school is going to make a run for him.Morgan Scalley @ Utah - Unless a modern blue blood position opens up, he's likely to stay.
>>158570446Not one single decent team in that knockout bracket. And that's why the playoffs will be entertaining.
>>1585744883 Top 25 Offense3 Top 25 Defenseeat shit fagets
Cheating for Bama in plain sight. Saban still on the payroll, pulling strings for them. Unreal.
>>158574515The only top 25 anything Indiana has played is Ohio State. They lost and looked like shit.
>>158574542are you stupid or retarded they played 3 top 25 offense and defense this year. georgia had not played anyone this year
>>158574542OSU was a good team when Indiana played them, but IU's quarterback play is still questionable.
>>158574566>OSU was a good team when Indiana played themNo they weren't>>158574565Name them
>>158573917I’d have sex with literally every one of those women
>>158574491Imagine being on a hot seat during year 1
>>158574491Is clemshit actually dumb enough to fire the coach who got them the majority of their natties?
>>158574615Dabo's done, he hasn't been good in years, and the sooner Clempus realizes that the sooner they can move on.
>>158574586Yes they were you retarded faggot. You're trolling at this point.
>>158574615They can't fire Brent Venables.
>Be Penn State>Hire the Iowa State coach>Bring the Iowa State roster to the Big Ten>Completely mediocre>Be Oklahoma State>Hire North Texas coach>Bring North Texas Roster to Big XII>Be ranked multiple times with a huge upset over Oregon>Be UCLA>Hire JMU coach>Bring JMU roster to Big Ten>Be one of the best schools in footballhilarious that the Sun Belt is superior to the Big XII
>>158574632If Ohio State was good they would have beaten Texas. They had an OK offense and the same bad defense they do now, they were just playing absolute shitters so nobody could tell.
>>158574615They should, Dabo refuses to adjust to how the sport functions now. If I was a Clempus fan I'd be fed up with hearing him talk about what he did 10 years ago in a completely different landscape to deflect from how he hasn't done a fucking thing since the portal/NIL rolled around.
>>158574643>losing by 1 point on the road in week 2 means you're not goodAgain, you're retarded. When OSU lost by 1 point to Oregon on the road did that mean they weren't good? They went on to win a natty. (I'm not saying OSU in its current form is good.)
Alabama (7-2) is ranked 3rd.Tennessee (7-2) is ranked 8th.They played a football game 3 wks ago.Tennessee won by 16.
>>158574685Well you see they're in different pods or something. Also losing to South Carolina is pretty fucking pathetic.
>>158574653Older fans remember what Clemson was like pre-Dabo. They don't want to go back to that but it appears that's going to happen with or without him. His buyout is Texas sized and Clemson doesn't have Texas type money. Clemson is going back to Clemsoning. Why waste a bunch of money on firing Dabo when the only light at the end of the tunnel is a giant pile of money on fire for nothing? He is their once in a lifetime coach rather than a once a generation coach.
>finally playing on Saturday again>its a noon kick >we've had 3 Thursday night games>a 10:15pm EST kick>3 noon home games>bye isn't until 2nd to last week of the season Fucking abysmal schedule.
>>158574586ohio state, even with their recent swoon, is STILL top 5 in predictive ratings and adjusted net EPA per play. Obviously they've changed dramatically after losing their QB.
>>158574709bama lose to auburn and thats pretty fucking pathetic as well checkmate
>>158574848Muh Sayin isn't an excuse for Ohio State's defense going to shit against USC and Oregon
>>158574900No, but an offense that can't stay on the field gasses your defense, and if an opposing offense gets more chances to score they will.
Texas Dalit daughter or Ohio State Brahmin son?
>>158574900agreed for the most part. I think they are getting bad complementary football, the defense is actually keeping pretty decent success rate and getting gashed on high leverage explosives. Maybe they are trying too hard to make something happen, maybe they are on the field too much, maybe they are switching off mentally because the season is falling apart. None of those are excuses, but "going to shit" is a pretty serious exaggeration that might ignore what's actually going on. and despite all that, they are still top 5 in the categories I just mentioned.
>quality loss
>>158574393>ratings based on "power"Might as well just use polls
>>158574915Can’t speak for the pooregon game but anosu’s offense was completely fine against USC aside from atrocious red zone playcalling that’s not the QB’s fault
>>158574959>public ivy
Hi can somebody explain to me how 6-3 Oregon is ranked in the top 20 but 6-3 Illinois who beat them head to head by double digits isn’t? Please and thank you
>mfw Hurr State wins the Natty
>>158574915>gasses your defenseOhio State dominated TOP vs USC (39:28/20:32) and TOP was almost dead even vs Oregon (Ducks had 2 seconds more possession), this cope doesn't work either
>>158575082>hurr stateUnc ahh meme
>>158575078>Lost to purdont on homecoming weekendthat's an automatic disqualification from being ranked for a full calendar year
>>158575078they're not in the same pod
>>158575089Ducks ran more plays and Ohio State got a lot more garbage time. in the 2nd & 3rd quarters, ohio states possessions went:3 plays punt6 plays punt3 plays turnover3 plays punt4 plays turnover6 plays turnoverTheir defense kept getting a short field to defend during the stretch that this game flipped. They actually had a great success rate number in that game, but their explosives were really bad.
>>158575089Ducks ran more plays and Ohio State got a lot more garbage time. in the 2nd & 3rd quarters, ohio states possessions went:3 plays punt6 plays punt3 plays turnover3 plays punt4 plays turnover6 plays turnoverTheir defense kept getting a short field to defend during the stretch that this game flipped. They actually had a great success rate number in that game, but their explosives were really bad. There was a similar trend against USC, though not as stark.
>>158575078if you flipped them then someone would have to say the same thing about Ohio State.
>>158574848>EPAOh so you are an analytics retard. Here I can make up words and formulas too, Ohio Stat's ESHART was -0.02, Alabama's was +0.19, fucking world of difference.
>>158575205>people are retards if they understand things that I don't
>>158575226You don't understand EPA, you regurgitate it.
>>158574479Thinking teams can't drop after winning/not playing is such a low IQ take.
>>158573929Because their loss got much worse. They've played one ranked team, #20, and lost to them.
>>158571775That doesn't even follow. Maybe type that sentence again with adverbs used properly. Maybe you mean they are necessary data points? But that still wouldn't make sense.
>>158575236No, that's completely inaccurate. Also not an argument but a desperate shot in the dark hoping to deflect because you dont like fairly simple facts
>>158575043The backup QB wasn't a huge problem, but he definitely missed passes Sayin would have made.>>158575089Retarded box score merchant
>>158571769They didn't have a better resume than Baylor, Oregon, FSU or Alabama, so there are 0 (zero) circumstances they should have been in the playoff that year.
>>158572428Who else what?
>>158574685Hundreds of games are played every year. The rankings are based on more than just one of these.
>>158574864>bama lose to auburnDon't get my hopes up.
>>158575226nah he is right. Confident statistics fags are the most retarded people.
>>158575078See >>158575317
>>158575291>Ohio State's offense ran 81 plays vs USC's defense>USC's offense ran 50 plays vs Ohio State's defense>Ohio State's offense ran 71 plays vs Oregon's defense>Oregon's offense ran 74 plays vs Ohio State's defenseAgain, find a new cope
>>158575272Anon every post like this you lose 0.0024 ESHART. You better be careful
>>158575319Beating Georgia was great but it did give us all a little bit of hope, that we all deny actually having, that we beat the gumps in tuscaloosa.
>>158575322yeah, it's weird that the vegas lines are consistently more accurate than anything you could muster, considering how much smarter you are than them. I can't think of a single sport that was changed by analytics.
>Miami Redhawks lose their 3rd string qb to injury, down by 17 points>Insert 4th string true freshman QB, score 34 unanswered points to win 34-17Absolute MACtion
>>158575270no, necessarily was obviously modifying "result"
>>158575370I'm not defending the USC game. OSU's defense didn't defend against explosive plays.In the Oregon game Oregon consistently started with great field position and there was a long stretch where the OSU offense couldn't stay on the field. Sure, at the beginning and very and of the game OSU methodically moved the ball down the field, but that masks what happened when Oregon was scoring.
>>158575302guys that returned to college in their late 20s to play football because they still had remaining eligibility
>>158575427>Wedid a lot of good things in that game but it was mostly things out of our control that won it for us.>Georgia coming off Alabama >>us coming off a bye>Stockton shitting the bedAlabama will be coming off Chattanooga.
>>158575470Yeah that still doesn’t make sense as I said. If you consider those data points that wouldn’t argue for Alabama over UCLA, it would be the opposite. I think they should be ignored but I’d never suggest they HELP Bama.
>>158575465Ah yes, the Vegas lines that use EPA to predict them. Just ignore that EPA isn't a predictive statistic, it's a descriptive one.
They're intentionally making the polls so dogshit people accept the 24 team playoff as the only solution to the rigging.4D chess
>>158575465vegas lines are not statistical lol they move them based on how sharps bet
>>158575758I think its more like "who cares, everybody will be in the playoffs next year and college football will be radically different in 3 years"
>>158575536i know you didn't suggest that, i never implied otherwise. but the point is that bama has two losses and it doesn't have a clearly superior win to UCLA. So the committee isn't basing that ranking on strength of record (UCLA is #1 in the country). the committee isn' tbasing that ranking the overall best win, because those aren't similar to overcome a 2 loss differentia. The committee, at least according to what they'd have to say, is giving that ranking because alabama's second tier of wins is that much better than UCLA's second tier of wins. I think you're going out of your way to misunderstand because it seems like you aren't reading posts honestly.
>>158575761>>158575594>adjusted EPA isn't used in predictive models as an input along with talent composite>sharps don't bet based on analytics>those lines that look identical to power ratings week after week aren't "statistical"this general is full of actual retarded people.
>>158575847no that's not what I said. read the post again my guy
>>158575893I wasn't saying what I thought you said, retard. I'm telling you how the committee is straining to put bama ahead of UCLA because whatever they're doing, it doesn't make sense.
>>158575904your argument makes no sense and is all over the place
We are doing this all over again
>>158575916nah you're just confused. Bama is getting credit for strength of schedule, but they have an inferior strength of record. something isn't adding up unless we are accepting hypothetical losses.
>>158575860you are retarded bro. Statistics cannot account for the vastly different schedules in college football. Vegas uses sharps (people) rather than just building some nerd algorithm based on statistics to do that job. Because I gaurantee your EPA shit would have UCLA beating the shit out of any mid tier SEC team. You need human beings to account for what statistics cant. if this was the NFL and schedules were not VASTLY different then you probably could just build an algorithm that sets lines based on stats and it would be pretty accurate
>>158575927so who would win in a neutral field
>>158575928>he doesn't realize that there are tons of stats that are specifically designed to account for different SOS>he doesn't eralize that adjusted EPA that's been pointed out explicitly is different from EPA because it's adjusting for what he claims they don't adjust for>he doesn't realize that UCLA is actually not super high on adjusted net EPA per playyou should educate yourself at least a little bit before commenting on this stuff, you know?
>>158575958I do know about that actually. They try to account for it but they cant do so adequately
>>158575934bama would be a 14 point favorite, so them 7 or 8 times out of 10. but that's a completely different discussion so I accept your concession.
>>158575977exactly lol
>>158575971is that why the SEC is shitty ATS in the playoffs? Is that why spread error is less than 1 point across all games?
>>158575958Prediction markets can do what stats cant. Prediction markets are smarter than any metric you are going to talk about. Simple as
>>158575991if you believe in these jewish statistics so much then why dont you simply print money with sports betting? shouldnt be hard for you since your analytics fully account for every single unquantifiable variable apparently
>>158575984yeah oregon would be a similar favorite on a neutral field, and ohio state would be an even bigger favorite over kentucky. Oklahoma would've been a neutral dog against notre dame last year. I don't know how you thought that was a good idea to bring up in this context.
>>158575992The prediction markets corroborate the stats you dummy. with very few exceptions.>>158576008>if you believe in these jewish statistics so much then why dont you simply print money with sports betting?i get you're a retarded southern polfag, but i just explained that the books themselves are obviously using the same inputs. in what world would those give an edge if both parties can and do use them?>shouldnt be hard for you since your analytics fully account for every single unquantifiable variable apparentlywhy would you have concluded that? I didn't suggest that. merely that you can know if a team is "complete shit" and if advanced efficiency game control stats are completely devoid of predictive value (Which they are not, very obviously)
>>158576034nah you are moving the goal posts. Nobody is saying that there is zero predictive value from statistics. I am saying that human bettors are going to be smarter than your staistics. Which cannot adequately account for the vastly different schedules we see in college football. If you were intelligent you would share my intuition here, because its obviously correct.
>>158575928>Vegas uses sharps (people) rather than just building some nerd algorithm based on statistics to do that job.lmao
>>158575798nah, they're hard committed to the 24 team playoff and they need to make some kind of justification for it and the best one they can do is "look how awful we're fucking it up right now"
we got a bunch of statisticians in here
blud really thinks betting still works like it did in the 60s
>>158575466Who the fuck is their strength and conditioning coach? Jabba the Hut? I get that it's the MAC but having three QBs out for injury is insane. Really bad luck or some shit tier conditioning.
>>158576079Why are you laughing? I am correct. I think you are retarded
>>158576008Anyone can download cfbd api and train ai on every single measure and create a better model than vegas. I got my mae a full point lower than vegas once I had every data pointYou have to do more than 50.1% you have to get 52.4% a top tier professional bettor gets 55%. Its still just gambling
>>158576100Go ahead and bet based on adjusted EPA. Any time the line doesnt align with EPA you should get free money. Betting directly against the sharps every time will surely make you a fortune lmao
>>158576063nope i didn't move the goalposts. you joined a convo half way and focused on a tangent argument. EPA was only brought up because someone tried to say that Ohio State wasn't "a good team" when they played Indiana. I used EPA per play to explain why that was stupid. I then educated you and another dipshit about how those inform models that are much more accurate than you could ever hope to be, which is indisuptable evidence of their value.
>>158576130They are going to be infinitely more valueable comparing teams in the same conference than teams in different conferences. They cannot adequately account for the radically different schedules we see in college football.
>>158576125>this retard thinks that a predictive model only has one inputwhy do you keep dragging this out, retard. Go look at lines every single week. they are highly correlated to some transformed OLS on adj EPA or some other efficiency metrics, with excpetions for injuries and matchup-specifics.
>>158576142you keep repeating this, but it isn't correct lel. you keep saying that models can't account for schedule inconsistencies, but they are literally designed for that. If you reject that, then you think sharps just use their gut or prayers or something to quantify the schedule differences
>>158576146>with excpetions for injuries and matchup-specificskek
>tfw my team's ESHART is the reason why we suck and will not qualify for a bowl yet again
>>158576159They literally cant account for it. Its impossible. You are retarded for not understanding I am right about this
>>158575847Alabama has two ranked wins to UCLA’s one, one of which is higher than any team UCLA has played. Both of Alabama’s losses have come to teams higher than any UCLA has played, so those have to be discarded when comparing the two. Honestly Alabama’s loss Georgia helps them in fact. They were slightly worse than Georgia in that game and #3 is a slightly worse ranking than #1. >The committee, at least according to what they'd have to sayLet me stop you right there. Do not listen to what the committee has to say, ever. >I think you're going out of your way to misunderstand because it seems like you aren't reading posts honestly.You are you, which means you know your own thoughts and what you meant to say. I’m not you. I don’t know your thoughts, I only know what you actually said, not what you meant, and what you said didn’t make sense.
>>158576171ok so then the SEC should dominate AT in the playoffs, right?
>>158576174>he literally tried to say that losing to a great eam is better than not losing to them
>>158576176do you mean ATS? No because the spread is set by HUMANS not your retarded statistical jewishry
>No CFP games will be scheduled in conflict with the historic Army - Navy game.>The Army - Navy game is a national treasure that showcases our future leaders. The Management Committee has worked closely with American Conference Commissioner, Tim Pernetti on behalf of both academies and CBS Sports to provide a solution that preserves the tradition's protected window from Playoff games while providing Army and Navy an opportunity to compete for a national championship. The CFP is proud of this collaborative effort to protect what makes college football special.Sounds like games will be played that weekend but not during the same time slot as the Army-Navy game. I'm wondering what happens if either of them ends up as the highest ranked G6 champion or an at large selection. Do the get a bye so they can play in the Army-Navy game? If so, some other team gets screwed out of their bye and seed.
Two 6-3 SEC teams LSU and Missouri are ranked and neither have beaten a ranked team.Two 6-3 B10 teams Wisconsin and Illinois are both unranked, yet they each have a top 20 win.
>>158576183Alabama’s close loss to #1 Georgia gave us information. UCLA playing no one in the top 10 does not give us information. That doesn’t mean Alabama has to be ranked higher, or that UCLA can’t be ranked higher, just that we don’t know, because we don’t have enough information. Either is fine.
>>158576191I bet soon every player in the army-navy game will say football gave them PTSD and demand lifelong gibs from the government. Its just what they do
>A sharp in sports betting is a professional, highly skilled, or institutional gambler who consistently wins over the long term by identifying mathematical edges rather than betting on gut feelings>mathematical edgesoh no no no no eyetestfags
>>158576188i did mean that, but it's not good news if you're trying to be a bigboi about simple typos. so now you are saying that spreads are generally far off of power ratings?
>>158576210If you took the best players from wisconsin and illinoise and put them on 1 team, that team would be less talented than LSU
>>158576211but their best wins are basically the same
>>158576210Did they all play the exact same teams and have the exact same scores? If not then you’re comparing different bodies of work despite the equal records.
>>158576228Okay well rankings aren’t based on any one game. They’re based on all the games. Cherrypicking one game and saying that’s the only game that matters is low IQ, although you don’t strike me as particularly low IQ.
>>158576244i didn't do that at all, dummy. UCLA has a higher SOR, Bama has higher SOS
>>158576232the EsecN teams didnt win against rank teams
>>158576191CFP will be starting December 11th in 2027. They will implement a required bye week between end of regular season and first playoff round Army-Navy will be the only game played in its week (pending if all G6 schools scrap their conference championship game)
Data-Driven Strategy: Sharps rely on quantitative models, statistical analysis, and positive expected value (+EV) rather than team loyalty or entertainment.
>you can't use models to adjust for strength of schedule>even though these models explicitly aim to do that>and these models look exactly like the spreads every single week>and the spreads have an average error under 1 point
>>158576321They can aim to do it but they cant do it. Hope that helps fucking moron
>>158576437you should go back, consider the last two lines of the post to which you responded, and try again.
>>158576456Nope. Regardless of what claims you make its impossible. This should be obvious to you if you had a functioning brain.
>>158576506i actually didn't make a claim, i presented evidence. and instead of explaining why that was insufficient you just said "nope, can't be" lmao
>>158576210That's because it just means more in the SEC
>>158576528I shouldnt have to explain it. You should just be smart enough to understand that you cant use statistics to account for completely different schedules. It cannot be done. Its like how you cant do the science fiction "enhance" and zoom in on an image to increase its resolution when the signal isnt there. You could use statistics to make something that looks nice but its never real.
you cancerous retards deserve a 24 team playoff
>>158576580>you can't do it>and this overwhelming evidence that they do simply doesn't count because it can't because i said so. this is self evident, and the actual evidence isn't evidence, actually.
The whole season should just be the playoffs desu. Make it double elimination round robin. That would make for some high drama, the TV jews would make a killing, and nobody would have to cry about some committee as everything happens on the field.
>stats induced meltieimagine seething about math they teach you in the first gradepublic ivy education on display
>>158576631Thats correct. Im not going to look at your evidence because its impossible so the evidence is necessarily fake and gay.
>tfw Kentucky is now a football schoolI never thought I'd see the day, but they're mediocre as fuck at basketball now. They're surviving on brand name and beating all the teams worse than them.
>>158576640>sports system where the losers bracket is 8x larger than the winners bracketfund itadd a double-loser bracket for extra humiliation
Indiana got leapfrogged by 3 SEC teams this week. When they didn’t play a game And people say that cig was crazy for calling out the SEC bias
>>158576652you're not supposed to just admit this
It is 100% without a doubt true.Every year - literally every year - SEC teams are overranked to start the season and benefit from that. Every single year they use the "well we are so good, obviously looking at the rankings, that any loss is a good loss"Having ESPN as your personal propaganda wing must be nice. Having them so heavily involved financially in both the SEC and college playoffs, surely they wouldn't do anything unethical to ensure they make the most money? Never.
>>158576702cig is a fucking pussy who makes the easiest schedule possible. His team does not deserve to even be in the playoff conversation right now as they have zero impressive wins
>seething about the fact that the concept of strength of schedule exists
how is Wake Forest #13seems a bit high even for beating Louisville or am I crazy
>>158576711Its true. You cant magically produce data that doesnt exist. Any claims that you can are not to be taken seriously. It would be like me seriously contending that due to statistics my high school team could beat some bad college team. You wouldnt take that seriously no matter how much I insisted on it
>>158576716you are not making a point you are showing your bias and for that you disgust me.
>>158576640My idea is much simpler. Make every conference 12 teams. This allows them to play each other once and have 1 game open for an OOC rival. You can either win the conference outright or go to a 1-game tiebreaker. Then you put all conference champions into a single elimination playoff.>muh ND independenceToo fucking bad catholic boy fuckers. Join a conference or fuck off, you're not special.>muh G6 sucksDon't care. Cry more bitch nig.
The CFP committee is never beating the SEC bias allegations: - 2-loss Alabama ranked ahead of UCLA- 2-loss Texas ranked ahead of Miami after barely losing at Notre Dame w/o best player- 2-loss Kentucky ranked ahead of Wake ForestLet's just rename the CFP the SEC Invitational.
>>158576640Don't even waste our time playing the games and just give the trophy to whoever has the #1 talent composite, seems like that is what SECfags think the sport is anyways
>>158576770MAYBE it has nothing to do with the SEC and more to do with the fact that Alabama is a mega name compared to UCLA. Texas has Arch so they're automatically going to get promoted over Miami. Nobody gives two shits about Wake Forest and Kentucky is the playoff darling right now.CFB is a business. Once you view the games and rankings through that lens, it all makes absolute sense.
A few other thoughts about the rankings ...1. How in the world is LSU ranked? They have 3 losses and have beaten no one. 2. How is Missouri ranked? They have 3 losses, and their best win is over 4-loss Florida at home.
>>158576797>MAYBE it has nothing to do with the SEChahahahaha
notice anything /sp/ee
>>158576845You'll learn one day that it's a business, which means profit is the only motivation for everything they do. Then again maybe you'll stay a retarded child. Choice is yours ultimately.
>>158576872>You'll learn one day that it's a businessthe business is that EsecN wants sec teams playing for the natty regardless of the lying, cheating, and stealing
>>158576872>>158576845>>158576797but they didn't (officially) pay players until a few years ago?
>>158576866It harms your argument when you omit non-SEC ties, like Mark Dantonio and Michigan State.
>>158576915So they want SEC teams playing for the Natty, but they haven't played in the championship game the past 3 seasons. Either they suck ass at rigging the games to put an SEC team in the championship or you're full of shit. Which is it?
>>158570446>Nig Ten
>>1585769569 of 13 members are from the SEC thats 85% of the voting comes from the SEC
>>158576866Where else have those people worked?
>>1585769582027 will end with a SEC winning the natty because of the 9 members on the committee
>>158576866Carla Williams is a player, a coach, and on top of it, the assistant AD at TWO schools. Really amazing! How does she find the time?
>>158577058this is about 2027 and ending the SEC over 2000 days without a natty
>>158577071exactly my point they dont watch the games they just go in the direction of whats being told to them by EsecN
>>158576866You seem to have left out some important information.
>>158577064Didn't answer my question. Try again.
>>158577075This is about pretending to be retarded is worse than being retarded. Sorry you have no friends and you're estranged from your family but trolling for attention is effeminate, which is why you have no friends and your family avoids you, necessitating you acting like a retard online for attention. Enjoy your Thanksgiving alone. Maybe the cashier will ask you how you're day has been while you're buying your Hungry Man Turkey Dinner for one.
>>158577101why are you projecting
>>158573712What's the crime?I guess she's afraid of being murdered and the school would not investigate it anyway.Smart move, nice boobies.>>158573929They look at which teams will generate the most income hosting playoff games.
>>158576866Yes, and wahmen's basketball has a say?LMFAO
bros wtf why are there no games today why do they hate our brave men and women in uniform
T A N L I N E S
>>158576732Winning and scoring ass loads of points, also acc bias since someone has to win that championship game for a spot.
>>158576736in your analogy, you would have also shown me box scores of your high school team beating a college team, from a reputable source. at which point it would be stupid of me to continue denying it. of course, that's why the analogy fails
>>158576956>see there can't be bias unless literally every member is connected to the SEC
The only model that matters is which teams seeded where maximizes revenue.
>>158577564That's why they left out nd last year and Alabama the prior?
>>158576111i dunno what happened to the previous 2 qbs but the 3rd stringer had his leg trapped awkwardly under him as he was being sacked
the MACtion continues tonight:>Buffalo (6-3) vs Ball State (3-6) | ESPN2>Sac. State (2-8) vs C. Michigan (4-5) | ESPNU>UMass (5-4) vs Toledo (7-2) | CBSSN
>>158577595Still working out the kinks, and the refs can only do so much hence the expansion to 24.
>>158577713Plays like that remind me of highschool, very cool!
>>158577459Stop with the lip filler you dumb bitches
>>158577056>>158577500Retards, I'm on your side. It makes your argument weak when you put out low quality graphics like that.
>>158577713>you could go to the mac as a 4-5 star as a skill player and be a literal god. especially going to a college town and be a literal idol. nil whore yourself to a restuarant, a clothes store, the hospital. sometimes its better to be a big fish in a small pond.
>>158578057Only if you dont know how many people are on the committee
>>158577459Imagine fucking this up with lip filler and caked makeup
>>158578046It's too late, they are bogged.>>158578141>ai generates perfect wifes>see none irlI guess this is why I watch sports and drink beer.How about them dawgs?
college ball looking real bad compared to the NFL right now
so did you retards come to any conclusion today
>>158578212I had a scene version of top right who was homecoming queen, there was no way I could keep her, it was just my turn.
>b1gger schizos can’t fathom the concept of strength of schedule and are making conspiracy theoriesTop kek
Most will watch a shit team over a dogshit not going anywhere this season nfl rebuild.In the age of DO SOMETHING won't surprise me to see attendence drop off a cliff. I think that is the real surprise they won't expect.Real money is in getting as money people subscribed to streaming packages, not a good product.
hell yeah buffalo vs ball state is a rain game
>>158578290The executives get paid regardless.>>158578292FI grabbed some ass so my homecoming was better than expected.No ring door bells back then!Also why do colleges even do that shit now, seems forced and fake now unless what your family.and dare I say friends show up? lol
huge pick by my chips !
>throwing the ball at your lineman's head for a turnover on downsoh ball state...
>>158578398MACtion!
>storm the field against western michigan at home over clock error>lose to sparties college kicker at homeIf they had Michigan ranked the fraud would be too obvious, and that is saying something.
>>158578290yes, 24 team playoff is a lesser cancer than the committee
and thats why hes not a reciever
>>158578290B1ggers are retarded and think they should automatically get into the playoffs based on playing nobody all season.
bloocked!BLOOCKED!
BLOCKED PUNT FOR A TD
>>158578552kiss my arse you deadshit fuckwit
>>15857829032 team playoff will ensure everyone gets in, mostly
>>158576274Neither are good ways to evaluate teams. Seasons are much more than one number and can't be summed as such.
SPECIAL ED TEAMS
>>158578561run some laps
>>158578506Saban saw more FG's made on gameday because they get extra chances.
are WE watching sac-cmu or buffballs
>>158576277The problem is that normalfags (including the writers and committee) believe that you can't drop a team after they win or increase a ranking after a team loses. So when Missouri beats #8 Florida it catapults them into the high teens, but when Florida falls out of the ranking there isn't a corresponding drop in Missouri's ranking. Their rankings go back no further than one week.
>>158578599ive been watching buffballs
>>158578601>>158576277Actually I take it back because they seem to have done so in this case:>>158576702Ohio State losing makes Indiana look worse, because Ohio State is Indiana's only ranked game, and they lost. Indiana dropping is correct.
and another missed FG
>>158576714SEC teams are the most talented so it makes sense. It all works itself out by the end though.
did the MWC think they were too good for ballsacramento or something
>25 yd punt
>the NFL doesn't matter but we're also the best because we send the most players there
Cheering for Sac State because of that one Hornet Anon
>>158578610They had Sayin and BARELY won, however I doubt the committee remembers but going forward you're right.
>>158577713Anyone else remember Buffalo's first season in FBS when they wore uniforms straight off the shelf from Academy?
>>158576714TV contracts and subscriptions keep fans renewing presumably.
>Hornets>clearly a dragon or winged serpent or some shit
>>158578682Looks like the kraken logo, lol.
when did long john silvers switch to waffle fries?
>Alabama got waxxed by Tennessee less than a month ago >3rd ranked team in the country
>>1585768666/13 have Big 12 affiliations, 5/13 have B1G affiliations and 7/13 have ACC affiliations. That is slightly slanted to the SEC.
>>158577056>9 of 13 members are from the SEC thats 85%Highest IQ SEC hater.
>>158578738>espn airing the saban documentary 24/7>legacy ranking?yes
>>158577459Gross. I like my girls white.
OFFICIAL TOP 25 P4:1. Stanford2. Puke3. Northwestern4. Vanderbelt5. UCLA6. Cow7. Notre Dame8. Michigan9. Virginia10. USC11. UNC12. Florida13. Texas14. Georgia Tech15. Illinois16. Pissconson17. Boston College18. Buttgers19. Ohaiyo state20. Jawja21. Washington22. Maryland23. Snake Forest24. FSpoo25. Vtach
>>158578617>It all works itself out by the end though.Then the SEC starts their "muh SOS/muh SEC gauntlet" offseason PR blitz and by the time the season rolls around everyone has forgotten who won the last championship and who looked like shit in the playoffs and we're back to square 1 of the SEC being treated like God's gift to football
>>158578771>FSpoo
buffalo's qb has only completed one pass all game long
>>158578781It's because the SEC loads up on future NFL talent every offseason.
>>158578786>say the line Bart!
>>158578806black qbs...
tied up baby MACtion packed!
>>158578802but the greatest NFL player of all time played for the wolverines
>>158578290Yeah ur tests came back. Still gay and obese
>>158578806M-maction
>I wonder why ESPN propaganda works on EEC fans
>>158578786He gave us no chance to call pass interference!
>>158578626sac actually wanted to get into the pac.it boggles the mind that ppl in sacremento even think about football.
>>158573712KWAB
>>158578869They got cheated out in shooty hoops there is nothing left.
>>158573712door primate
>>158573712>should have worn her covid mask which was encouraged at the timelolAlso...>Trinidad Chambliss among Ole Miss football stars on injury report for Oklahoma game>The Rebels fell to No. 19 in the latest College Football Playoff rankings and can't afford another loss while still holding onto hope of making the CFP.THE COPE BEGINSKWAB
>>158573712reproach primate
>>158578568Agreed on that too. Nobody implied those were the only items being evaluated. But sor is specifically designed to assess different records against various SOS. And if Bama had materially higher end wins that ucla then your comment would be more appropriate. But they don't
>>158573712If her daddy really does own a car dealership, he'll probably send her right to Trinidad.
AND HE MISSES THE FG AGAIN
>>158579000Checked, MACtion!!!
>>158570461Genious why has this not been tried before
>>158579000why don't colleges recruit professional kickers instead of college kickers?
>>158579044Lane tried to recruit, lol.
>>158579044many schools poach some random 30 year old Australian to come kick/punt and fuck freshmen
>>158579017nobody is gonna do it again because they know it will now get you penalized 15 yds lol
>>158579063Sounds like the dream
>>158579017It's okay to distract but not too much, same for basketball free throws.
>Lane tried
why
>>158579165LOL
>>158579165>no guaranteed ND spotIT'S ANTI-CATHOLIC DISCRIMINATION I'M TELLIN YA
>256 team playoff finalized just in time for America 2076>LOUD NOISES>IF YOU SIGN UP NOW GET 10K IN FREE BETS TO FILL OUT YOUR BRACKET NOW>LOUD NOISESYea...
>>158579212;crying emoji;;crying emoji;;crying emoji;I’ll have to take a double shot of whiskey ;crying emoji;;crying emoji;;crying emoji;
>rosters are eliminated, players are now recruited to a conference>conferences hold their own drafts each year for the freshmen it recruited>worst team in the conference picks first>champion picks last>NIL needs to be able to support its draft picks or they can hold out
Relegate shit teams maybe?
How about 2 QBs and two foobaws at the same time? Double dragons.
Jesus, did you see the hook on that field goal try from Ball State?
>>158579349i missed it. how bad was it?
who the fuck names their kid Hamishfeudal serf-ass name
>>158579421Scrabble bag was running low.
Sanfrisco Magee
>shartinals
>>158579291Slow build up to the roller ball timeline except player safety.
>>158578835The exception proves the rule.
>>158578946Alabama has double the number of ranked wins of UCLA and quadruple the number of ranked games.
>>158579165>first two rounds on campus of higher seedYou gotta admit this will be kino.
>>158579564>nooo SOR and SOS are not good ways to evaluate team quality>here's a shittier, less rigorous, more arbitrary representation of the same concepts
lmao coach not happy with that PI
>>158579574if you rig it they will comeUnless...
>>158579564yeah and they have infinity the number of losses too. still haven't proven they can win games against a higher level than UCLA. at this point UCLA would at worst equal alabama in their W-L performance against the top level of teams
It's still pretty funny to me that Freeman has accomplished more at Notre Dame in five years than Kelly did in eleven.AND he's a real Catholic, not a fake one.
>>158579601>SON I AM DISAPPOINT
>>158579620>accomplished moreThey both hit the same ceiling so far (losing in the title game)
>Kamario Taylor getting $7.5 million for 2027 season at Miss StateI feel like this stuff has jumped the shark man. Miss State even with him is at best a 8-4 team. And it's Miss State, so they aren't going to have jack shit to pay anyone else. This stuff is getting silly. What is the ROI for the boosters and collectives? Sitting in the jank ass luxury boxes in Starkville and saying "Dats my buck right there, now." Just silly.
>>158579620catechumen primate
>>158576702b1gfags literally never stop whining
>>158579732The S O Y jacking over anything that involves the SEC is so fucking tiresome and reddit man. Guys we get it. Not liking the SEC is your personality, well done, congrats now can we move the fuck on and discuss other matters?
cardinals are basically in 4 down territory for the rest of the game thanks to their kicker
bro he just ran right at the defender in the backfield lol
>Ball State>doesn't
>Buffalo>next to northern border
>ball state
lmao
>>158579596You said Alabama has no wins are substantially better than UCLA's, ignoring the quantity of ranked wins as you have so often today. I made it so you couldn't ignore that anymore, at least for one second. Math formulas are absolutely bad though, that's for sure.
>ball state>not good at ball sports Sad
>>158570446Did Ohio State change their logo or something? I can't seem to find them in that bracket.
>>158579732After the air conditioner became widespread, college football became they only good thing about living in the north, and then the south took that too. Understanding that makes it easier to understand b1ggers.
>>158579620If he wins it all we all owe black coaches an apology.>>158579684But Freeman at least showed up for it.
>>158579619The losses came to teams better than anyone UCLA is played, so they're discarded. Including them would be a comparison of apples to oranges.
>>158579684Freeman has won in the postseason and wasn't embarrassed in his championship game. Kelly looked like absolute garbage any time he was given a chance.
>>158579620Sacraments?>since 2022lol>Freeman's mother, Chong did the nasty withlolWhy is cfp so hung up on these NOT MY CONFERENCE retards?
and thats it for ball state
it's ballver
what the fuck is ball state doing? you have to field the kickoff lol
>>158580012NEXT TIME!
cardinals just gave up 2 tds in 6 seconds
Zebra Rub X Shift Y Chase. Bussy Trap on 2 on 2. Ready Break.
I want a 42 belly option on two on two ready break
>>158580050zebra rub? good call coach
>>158579997>see you just have to ignore the bad data pointsAbsolutely not how it works. This is shockingly stupid.
>make camo your causeLMAO
>>158570446>Ummm sweetie it's a Good Thing that mediocre college players are getting paid more than NFL players and salary inflation on the unrestricted market is going to price 95% of the teams that aren't in the Big 10 or SEC out of ever being able to have sustained success. Do you know experts have agreed that parity is better than ever because a Big 10 team with a megabillionaire donor is good now?>I think you're just upset that a young black man is finally able to get paid. College football is NOT FOR the fans anymore chud.
>>158581278hand to god I've never heard of this dude in my lifet. utah
>>158581278>>158579728If this shitter who has played 5 games is worth 7.5 million to Sipp State what's a guy like Michael Hawkins worth? How the fuck are fans supposed to keep caring when December rolls around and he goes>Sorry WVU. I know you believed in me and invested in me despite being a failure at Oklahoma and revitalized my career and massively increased my worth by putting me in a system that's tailor-made for my strengths and didn't show bad film on me by not asking me to do things I'm not capable of doing, but Ole Miss is offering me 8 million to play QB there when you can only offer me 6. >So fuck you and all the fans' who continued support is the whole fucking reason I'm able to make NFL money in the first place despite not having the tools and skillset to be an NFL QB.
>>158581418You could easily put a stop to that shit with a CBA, but the schools still have zero interest in officially labeling student athletes as employees (despite the fact that plenty of regular students are also campus employees) so take it up with them
Ohio State has 2 real wins this season. Even their normal strategy of padding out wins against G6 and bottom-tier Big 10 teams isn't helping.
ND has 5 wins against sub .500 teams. Other than their win against Miami, why the fuck should they be ranked at 5 when they have a piss poor schedule? Man, must be nice to still have old ass boomers and Gen X thinking it's the 80s and sucking off ND. Force them to join a real conference and they'd never make another playoff, even when it expands 24.
>>158579564Blaming the victim. Ucla cant control muh elite teams getting stinky >OregonStill 2 left>Meatchigan>PooscIf pootah and ucla both go undefeated its a travesty to the sport if they are not #1 and #2. If they weren't #1 and #2 in the bcs system it would end the bcs system
>>158581278There really is no reason to enter the nfl draft for most.Keep playing college ball into your 30's.
>>158582263And their loss came against fraud BYU.
>>158581472That they didn't want players to be considered employees made sense in the past but things have reached a point where the downsides of what's happening now outweigh those of having players-employees. Seems like a combination of stubbornness and inertia that's keeping that prohibition alive. That said, I do hate the idea of a season getting wiped out by college players going on strike someday.
>>158570446
>>158582853and the game ended with one second left on the clock
>>158582263remember when you said this a few years ago and they won three playoff games lmao
Until m. toney is healthy miami should be ranked #15
How long until most conferences completely dissolve / big brands go independent? I give it 5 years.
>>158583165Every game ends with the remaining 1 second ticking off(except Michigan)
>>158583205that's not what happened in provo, unfortunately.
>>158583169>he thinks I know what I typed 3 years agoI can't remember what I typed a day ago. You do know that 4chan is anonymous, right?
>>158583202The first spark will be Ohio State leaving the B1G, after that everything will be done within 3 years.
>>158583334Fair point desu
>>158583202>>158583353>conferences do everything they can to upset people and fondle the golden goose>they die
>>158583202>>158583353Better question is, why don't companies sponsor the entire conference? For example: Pepsi's Big 10 Conference. Every time the logo is used, it shows the Pepsi branding with it. You know, much like with bowl game names.
teams need to beat up shitty teams in their conference to keep their high ranking. how are you gonna rank teams if they break away to form a super league and ohio state and alabama go 5-5 cause they beat each other up
>>158583468Teams like Ohio State and Alabama can still play shitty teams if they go independent. The difference is instead of sharing their media revenue with them and playing road games against them half the time they'll just pay teams like Rutgers and Arkansas for cupcake games at home.
>>158583442Because each individual university has sponsors. The conference usually has sponsorships for tournaments and championships and whatnot.
>>158583468>>158583508You now remember the WWE Big 12 Championship where they made a title belt. That was fucking retarded.
>>158583508But those sponsors aren't shown with the team. I'm talking about something much bigger and grander. Every fucking Big 10 vs Big 10 matchup would be read as "Pepsi's Big 10 showdown/matchup/whatever between X & Y".
>>158583519Individual rivalry games often have sponsors.
>>158583519You have no idea how much corporations pay universities to be a sponsor. The corporations themselves probably can’t fucking afford it.
