Regarding Magnus, bastard is missing not only an answer for Vapula but also for Nocturso, who's CB1 to effectively go +2 when called and is another 15k shield for the deck, something pure Magnus can't use

despite rereleasing both of these cards recently they fucking forgot Magnus can't use them when they are extremely good cards for Drajeweled; this is why people were saying Magnus needed a grade boosting skill to at least be its own deck, which would enable both of them to be used

couldn't even make it at the beginning of ride phase along with the SC2 from drop that is better than Ignis for setting up the toolbox for geodrahl and potentially zagan; maybe they were as scared as they were when they were making Draconis when they made Magnus solely a grade 3

>What should I look at if I want to get into Vanguard? Like in terms of Products, etc?
I asked this right as the last thread died.

>>96247075
There used to be some where Bushiroad actually Remote Fight eventss but I don't think they do anymore

>>96254392
You are probably better off getting one of the starter decks to learn about the mechanics first, but the Start Up Trial Decks they put out earlier last year were lacking and overpriced relative to the cost since most of the cards were vanillas so this is probably the best "starter deck" out of the lot

https://en.cf-vanguard.com/products/dzss04/

>>96254392
If you want a beginner Standard ready product wait a month and get these.
https://en.cf-vanguard.com/products/dzss09/
https://en.cf-vanguard.com/products/dzss10/
The first one could use some upgrades, while the second one is fine to play out of the box (once you pick up extra plant tokens) without too much trouble at a local level.

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The Strongest.

Do you guys think there is any place for stupid rogue decks like Shieldfisher nowadays? There was a time when even bushiroad itself used shieldfisher in one of their videos, and it was not even that long ago. Maybe I am crazy but It feels as if something like that is not viable, even as 4fun, at all in the current state of the TCG. Like, it seem that decks are expected to do a lot more to even survive nowadays.

>>96255780
For one, it's outdone by Griphogila who can get onto a 18k body by turn 4 pretty much guaranteed due to the retrained Wretches and potentially sit on 28k if you get lucky with your field who at least swings for crit pressure on turn 3

Otherwise 18k had potential for the Magnolia matchup earlier in the D format, but the vanguard itself does nothing by itself aside from being 18k on turn 3, which isn't that big of a deal anymore; Impauldio is a better tank deck due to getting 5k off of any damage check and eventually getting up to 15k with a trigger check, on top of having some good scaling that it didn't get a restander for a year

When did an official channel show a Shieldfisher deck?

>>96233997
More than anything I think the meta is still largely determined by who goes first. The Bav and Vyrgilla nukes dont really become a thing until Grade 3 and one less turn to deal with them is a huge pressure reliever. When their ball gets rolling sooner its just a snowball of too much goodstuff piling up. Although in the case of Vyrgilla even if you go first thats still majorly just a shitshow of a diceroll. If they see rewrite on their first ride its eyerolling watching a field get built that can swing so hard off of so little, if they dont its an easy win.

>>96255780
Maybe if they give it a restander. You kinda need that bare minimum to get anywhere.

>>96256794
I like how hard they went into making Vyrgilla a going second deck, even if it doesn't really change if they want to go first or second.

It's one of the only decks that can capitalize on a grade 1 turn, has the strongest turn 2 in format and a nightmarish grade 3 turn if it finds Alfknights, and even with that in mind it would still like to go first because it gets to twin drive first and still Alfknights with greater consistency on the following turn

At the same time we have decks like Dragontree that should be more functional but aren't due to old game design; they're a hard going first deck but don't actually suffocate the opponent out of their plays per se, and in Griphogila they literally have no early game to speak of and their win condition turn is extremely slow even considering they go first in Dragon Empire and somehow held onto enough pieces to get two Espereideas on board

Looking back on Veissrugr, it looks like Standard suffers from newer decks either needing all of the good shit ASAP or they will suffer and be worse; Vyrgilla came out before Veiss' but had a year of time to build up support by the time Veiss' was still working with a barely functional engine and Alfknights came out before Helgvarr, on top of Vyrgilla having far better of a going second experience by design; they're both rearguard oriented decks with power up order cards but Vyrgilla is so much better that it only further drives the narrative that Bushi are scared of doing similar decks that have done fantastically, with Veissrugr taking after both Vyr' and Fashionable Witches and being a worse deck than either for half a year

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The Big 3 have returned... these designs feel so fucking lazy. theyre just in their school uniforms with accessories slapped over

>>96256773
What I meant with that question was less about Shieldfisher itself and more about that kind of stupid decks as a whole, you know?
>When did an official channel show a Shieldfisher deck?
It was around when Floseria was released, if I remember correctly.

>>96260895
Happy Siana's getting a new form, but the new support's got a lot of heavy lifting to do for the deck.

Should I buy Vyrgilla, "Rewrite Form: Alfknights" or Variance Ray Dragons first for my Vyrgilla deck?

>>96261538
Alfknights is basically your new Grade 3 that enables a fifth attack going second while filtering two key pieces out of deck, while Variance Ray is an extremely handy card for maintaining your board and being further shield value for the deck

Variance Ray is also useless for the Bav' matchup due to only being targeted protection, meaning the front row nuke will bypass it; in part due to that I think Alfknights is a superior upgrade for the deck between the two

>>96261586
Is there a card I could run in place of the Ray Dragons?

>shojodoji
>stoeirhaja

Now what to build next...bruce maybe?

>>96261537
Very little lifting needs to be done by anything except the new Siana. She is an extremely halfassed boss.

Her units bounce opponents stuff and her pay off for it is power+crit that the opponent can cancel out. If it fights tokens or stuff that pops after it attacks theres no window for its bind skill. Even if it does proc its bind skill all that has to be paid is a discard. Theres also virtually no window anymore for its bind to proc off anything but Blitz Order sentinels or taking a damage anymore because lots of things are swinging for 38k and close for a kill when they start seeing those numbers.

Too much stuff goes wrong in her deck all because of her.

>>96263854
She had a good premise a year or two ago, but a lot of decks have such powerful advantage engines that none of her threats mean jack shit anymore

She's, albeit like most decks in format, strictly a worse Bavsargra, who can get critical and drive pressure for just playing the deck without any method of counterplay and who also gets to nuke the front row nigh every turn along with a much better defensive skill

The distinction is that Siana is straight up inferior to Aksayya in every functional way at this point due to how the meta evolved.

>>96260895
>New Siana
we're so back

>>96266572
My wife Yuna looking good

Do not come back when Siana gets blitz order that nullifies rg attack. Do not come back when Siana gets a restand rg that scale with number empty circles on opponent field

>>96269077
Unironically, Siana's DressUp alone will help with the deck tremendously, let alone what other cards might do

Sianna's old form has a barely functioning "defenisve" skill to enable the bind that doesn't do anything in this format due to the high powered columns demanding two cards at least and her crit/drive pressure is only enabled if she can get rid of the front row, and is straight up negated if the opponent hard guards her comparatively weak VG swing, since she is a vanilla when you put two or more on GC no matter what; she is somehow the worst card in the deck outside of being what enables her support.

In particular, she already has a card that SB1s when placed to bounce an opponent's front row RG to hand before getting 5k for every open front row rearguard that the opponent has in addition to being a Rockargour for CB1 if the opponent's front row is cleared along with a front row bounce to hand in Parstie; she's got genuinely solid support but the boss itself is damn near a vanilla in this format in contrast to the support she has.

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>>96272789
to big

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Are they...?

I thought Nao was supposed to be the main heroine.

>>96276038
yes anon, they fuck

>>96276105
she served her role as Sybilt's host well

>>96276038
Their boss units are husband and wife. Of course

>>96276105
Sybilt's onahole

>>96276105
It's starting to look like a pentagon with how Rezael has two versions of his deceased girlfriend, one of which is merged with a random ass dragon named Gabwelius and now the guy he's tied to on another planet is expecting to bag the person tied to a dragon he fought twice

Not helping things is that BOTH versions of his girlfriend are tied to the biological sisters of his Earth dude, but since Cray and Earth just influence each other, and not everything tends to be directly correlative, I think it's more likely that Rezael and Varga are just going to be warrior hobos or something if Akina gets with Nao; Rezael was already one for the most part anyway

Not actually all that strange: Rezael can use the constant battles as a source of mastering his healing powers and shit, so it creates a feedback loop; now if only we knew what makes Veissrugr a physician outside of cheating with the Moon Gate or something

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>>96277660
>>96277857

Man, for years now I have been wanting a card like yuika that uses counter blast instead of soul. It's kind of ridiculous that one doesn't exist yet, since counter blast is supposedly the more expensive resource.

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Is there a way to salvage Heroic Deeds Dracokid via errata or is it a lost cause for Veissrugr, or does Veissrugr even want or need something like it at this point?

Its quite possibly one of the most absolutely scuffed support cards I think this game has seen, the sodden piss order was played as a four of in the anime and the guy used Bobalmine as a two of instead of this guy that never got used on top of that

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What is wrong with this girl?

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What is blud even talking about?

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It's so weird how they always try to pretend the Destined Ones are like this super tight group of friends

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Looks like Yuna will be joining Erika as an Anchor Bolt member.

>>96281077
Guess I gotta adjust my sleeves for my Lisciafel deck...

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>mikoto's face when she realizes Erika is an incestous freak

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Very special cameos in the ending

>>96281102
Maybe yuyu can win against them now

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Next up is another quite unexpected match up. Urara vs Mikoto. I guess you gotta shill the new Lianorn against somebody.

>>96281118
to much filler in the last season...

>>96281039
holy shit how did i miss that

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>>96281133
Master of disguise

>>96281043
>>96281056
I wouldn't say that. It''s pointed out during the episode that they actually don't meet up any often at all and it's true that Kuon was the only one during season 2 that consistently tried to interact with everyone while everyone else was fucking off advancing their own goals. I think they get it across pretty well that it's a group of people that have a shared experience with each other but aren't actually friends.

>>96281125
Turns out they only actually needed seven episodes to get through the finals, and only Kagetsu really had anything riding on the matches apart from clout

they have at least four episodes to kill time with, and even then they're allegedly taking a break next week on top of that; there's one more non-tournament episode after this one if we count the first episode and assume there'll be a two-parter finale to the Deluxe like last season.

>>96281077
We're absolutely going to go into a team match season huh. They'll split up a bunch of the cast into three person groups and we'll get Erika, Taizo and Yuna on one. They'll introduce the two hospital ladies from Hikari's past on a team with someone. Akina and Suo will team up with someone, then we'll have Nao with Kagetsu and Ruka. Team match seasons are the worst.

>>96281166
This round of seasons getting a third parter makes sense, although a team format sounds extremely scuffed with the cour format

We havent gotten anything regarding the Red Moon Disease yet so they might be setting up that season with this one; that shit got name dropped as something to be on guard for and jack shit has happened with it so far, I kind of thought it might've had something to do with Liael=Draconis at first but that turned out to be wrong

>>96281039
>>96281095
She's just trying to make sure the Myodo bloodline continues

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>>96281147
I kinda saw that with Yuna when she had no one to talk to and mentions barely ever talking to Senka, but there are sometimes where they try to oversell the idea of friendship in that group.

Like in the last season during the Akina and Kuon fight, when Mikoto asks Hikari who she's rooting for. I was absolutely baffled at that question, I couldn't wrap my head around it, even worse when Hikari actually says she supports both, like no, sorry, no there's no universe where I believe Hikari admires Kuon as much as she does her brother.

>>96281039
Akina fucked his sister
He FUCKED HIS SISTER
its CLEARLY a REACTION TO THAT

WHATS WRONG WITH HIM IS THE QUESTION. HE CORRUPTTED HER WITH HIS COCK. LIAEL REVERSE SOON

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>>96281252

A fucking fire throwing dragon fighting a Catgirl on a floating concert stage sure is goofy

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>>96281220
How much time passed between Season 2 and Deluxe? Maybe she interacted with Kuon some inbetween the seasons

Kuon goes to the same school that she does and hangs out with Akina there, so it's not like the Destined Crew's on-and-off status is a factor in this, on top of Kuon being sociable with them being another factor that's brought up in the latest episode, by Hikari herself no less

>>96281278
>charmed the school idol
>dating the hot college chick
>fucking his sister
THIS MAN IS A MENACE

Question: Is it possible to play Sephirogila with Buddyfight?

>>96281376
You can run the cards until they make a ruling, I think, but you won't be able to ever ride either of the Dragontrees due to how the decks work.

You can only run the Calamity/Blessings in ride deck a certain way, and both 'sids specify the respective orders that originate from the Ride Deck

The crest itself doesn't deny anything and I'm not sure if the Flags specify anything, either, but the cards are functionally useless unless something gets released that uses grades

>>96281102
Misheru?!

>>96281118
Mikotobros... our girl feelings for Akina was retconned and now she is getting destroyed by another overdress character again... I can't cope anymore

>>96281660
Mikoto lost the second she got dragged to another city because Akina wanted to cheer for Nao at a tournament.

>>96281660
They gave her a yuri love interest so she doesn't need Akina anymore.

>>96281842
Idolize is not love. Idolfaggotry is for losers

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*shits pants*

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>>96282040
pay up

>>96282040
>186

>>96282040
Magnus is looking pretty modest but I can see why the FR isn't as appealing as the SR or SEC since it's going to be in the ride deck in Ignis builds.

Surprised it's not hiked up considering decks will likely only run a single copy in the ride deck considering pure Magnus kind of eats shit without access to Ignis' engine and with that, there's almost never a reason to run more than the one Magnus at all; Persona Ride doesn't do much Ignis already does and you might as well get onto Ignis to make use of the bricks.

>>96281077
How many more girls is Taizo going to traffic on his island?

>>96282603
Bolted might be a secret word for passed the hands of Taizo at this point. What a chad

So what did Akina wish for if it's not winning the tournament or becoming pro?

>>96283526
a harem, why do you think most girls like him

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>>96283526
Something cheesy like wanting to be with Nao forever

>>96281166
A 3v3 team format season would be such a cluster fuck. Like a single match would be 1/3rd of the season

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>>96285369
>A 3v3 team format season would be such a cluster fuck. Like a single match would be 1/3rd of the season
>he think they are not going to skip most games

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Best OD character birthday. New Bastion soon

>>96285949
thats not mirei

>Mirei wants to fuck Danji
>Erika wants to fuck Erika
Cardfight Vanguard Divinez? More like Cardfight Vanguard Incezt

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>>96285982
Tohya is the best male character, Mirei is the best female

>>96285949
Is Bastion actually lacking anything or is it just the outdated Bastions?

I get Accord is mid but that shit would be putting in work in the current meta if not for Bav's bullshit; Vyrgilla might be going +5 but at least your front row is secured.

>>96287546
The recent support it got is fantastic, but it really needs a better rideline.
A new Fort that checks top 5 to call a G3 for some early game pressure.
A new Rooks that instead of drawing a card for revealing 3 G3s let's you grab a Bastion or maybe revealing 3 G3s becomes the ride cost instead of discarding.

>>96287745
Bastion STILL hasn't gotten a ride line that isn't total shit?

Even Magnolia got a pretty decent update over a year ago as soon as Divinez started that also got reprinted in DZBT08, so it's not like they were waiting to make a new Bastion to go with it like they did with Youth and Bavsargra

>>96287976
>Bastion STILL hasn't gotten a ride line that isn't total shit?
pray the next filler episode is a tohya duel

>>96287976
>Bastion STILL hasn't gotten a ride line that isn't total shit
Nope!
>Even Magnolia got a pretty decent update over a year ago as soon as Divinez started
That's what I've been hoping for Bastion as well, but still nothing

Fort calling possibly Azeruel on paper sounds a little nuts, but Veissrugr post-DZBT10 is just as bad with how it can pretty easily see 10k, 10k, 23k on turn 2 without minusing set a pretty damn high bar for early aggression that Bastion should at least compete with as the classic aggro deck

>>96288095
Yeah, I guess getting a semi-consiztent Azeruel call that can then call something else would be kinda nutty

It is a highroll, with the numbers looking 13k 10k VG swing and 13k without minusing

That's about on level with Veiss', and I still don't think that deck is beyond a rogue pick; Bastion also needs to blow a CB on this so it's entirely plausible the opponent damage denies it while Moonkeepers don't give a shit and can just go mad with 23k, 10k, 23k with the only penalty being to their energy

Bastion is actually kind of suffocated for CB last I checked, unless I'm forgetting a Bastion-specific countercharger, so this has counterplay by comparison; the main deal is that 13k is a magic number against a G1 that demands 10k and is a reason a Veiss' player is willing to forgo saving the doggos for turn 3 in favor of early aggression, especially with Helgvarr providing an in-engine 8k booster that can make for a 23k column on turn 2 and a fuckin' 33k with a trigger that's a two card guard minimum with likely 2 critical; both Azeruel and the dog have draw effects to mitigate the loss of hand

>>96288095
Anon, kekssrugr will never be there with the big boys, stop shilling us that garbage

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>>96288615

>>96288615
It's not even like Veissrugr's deck inherently non-functional, Vyrgilla became tier 1 despite playing nearly the exact same game, but that was due to giving it the best going second power in format, extremely good cards and actually realizing some of the issues the deck has and fixing them
>Ezerwur getting removed, added Variance Ray Dragon on top of the deck already being able to revive it twice
>needs Orders to do things, added a filterer and Alfknights
>wants a certain piece and a certain order by turn 3/4, Alfknights
>needs an effectively costless Order while still pressuring the opponent for stuff like Fanvare, Blazing Star Cross
Vyrgilla got all of this shit by the time Weissschwartzrugr was dealing with Garzorums for a month and then they also released Happy Toys, which is basically EXACTLY what Veissrugr is supposed to be: an extremely in archetype rearguard-centric deck that uses set orders and wants to use an Order every turn, and Heartlulu even matches the vibes Kagetsu allegedly has in being shady

Both of those decks are firmly tier 1, despite playing two of Veissrugr's MOs to the letter while six months in Veissrugr STILL isn't anywhere realistically close to actual tier 1 status despite having some of the best on-paper cards in format, because Bushiroad put too many guardrails on the deck's potential and kneecapped it purely based on having one of the best filters in format; best case scenario is that they realize Heartlulu is good but not busted, he feels like an experiment in seeing what happens if they gave Veiss' actual power, and come up with either a new card or errata Veissrugr to make the guard skill work on ALL guardians called to make it an actually tanky deck

>>96290212
>>96288615
Potentialman rideline

>>96290928
Speaking of potential man, how's Zorga doing?

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>*COUGH*

Youthberk needs to crash out at nebula knights so hard for stealing his old ass order from set 6 and making it generic costless usable from drop and only further exacerbating keter pile that he gets some actual support and a RevolForm that triple drives instead of creating huge numbers for the field

hes got a good chance of that in dz set 11 after the disgrace that was being a slightly more endemic keter pile with his own order that was still worse since it traded card advantage for a filter that could miss

if he gets lucky he could also get a tempest upgrade that bottom decks the backrow or some shit that replaces wisodm as the decks plus engine

Its nothing but funny to me that people are bitching about balance and banlists in premium,the legacy format. The broke ass format that bushiroad RAN from where turns are incredibly lethal,defensive mechanics can be shut on or off on a whim and where everything going +1 critical is just plain old natural. Like cmon.

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So why shadoba stoled vanguard cards?

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>Chronojet got Chronoscommand Dragon
>Messiah got Trans-else Messiah
>Shiranui got fuck all
>Luard got fuck all
>Harri got fuck all
>Nightrose got fuck all
When the fuck are we getting more G Units in D?

>>96296545
Next set if the trend is maintained, every third DZ booster has been the dedicated non-anime support

Speaking of which, I'll be damned if Heartlulu got more shit since they basically gave it all of the support it needed for a while until they decide to slow the format down some more and pull a Bavsargra by making side grade-ass support or replacing the toy horse; Shiranui was too dominant to really need new support in dz set 9 so they just make Shojo tier 1 to further the Dragon Empire agenda

>>96296545
It's assumed that Luard and Shiranui will get Ogma and Mujinlord as their 3rd G units.

'Side from that, the other assumptions for what could be in DZ set 12 would probably be more Skyride ridelines, maybe also Chaos Breaker Dragon.

>>96296939
>Chaos Breaker
>In Standard
>Artisaria with a hard one lock per turn is arguably still a rogue deck
I can see them balancing it like how errata'd Harmonics works where they can choose to drop or even bind a card instead of dealing with a lock, depending on the matchup as to avoid eating shit to Blangdmire or something, in return for more rapid locking, but that sounds pretty dicey

Especially for G Chaos that has hand locking, but Alththani would make for an interesting advantage engine with that in mind so i dont think it's entirely unworkable

>>96296939
>mujinlord
We don't need that shitter. Give us rinne

>It's Collab Hell with Touken Ranbu
orz

>>96301680
Its probably just for this one week. Next episode they should be debuting new Lianorn and that will take up next tuesdays stream.

DZ needs a character to hates women and beats their wife.

>>96306433
Timeskip Danji after he gets stuck with Megumeme

>>96308616
yuyu beating mirei....
akina beating hikari...

>>96310371
Yu-yu fits the supposed bill funnily enough

bro fled to paris to get away from his banshee sisters and beat (in a cardfight) his prime ship candidates

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>>96310674
So true megumi

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Is he right? Is it bushirover?

>>96314454
idiot that dont play the game

>>96314454
What stuff is he even talking about. I can only remember the hype news of
>OD bosses getting uppies
>Lyrical booster set announced
>New Liael
>Bav losing OT and Batman getting rightfully trashed

>>96315225
they are angry at premium dying
https://x.com/cfvanguard_en/status/1953675285054079073

>>96314454
Even if Bushiroad has ignored the english lore website for over a year and begun phasing out Premium, EN isn't really close to being trashed, and given everything is holding on pretty well all things considered

They are fairly greedy these days, but that's sort of how it goes; it's never been fair to compare Vanguard to Yu-Gi-Oh in terms of money making when that shit got ahead of most of card game anime and was a big deal in the west as a meme, while Vanguard has been comparatively more of a cult phenomenon before and after the peak in the Break Ride era

If your card game can go upwards of thirty years without a proper set rotation in spite of having an extremely unforgiving metagame, youre clearly advantaged in regards to financing that Vanguard hasn't had the privilege of; I'm more pissed at how proper English translations have been slacking and they've reused Leon's voice actor twice now

>>96315310
bandai is not yugioh anon
yugioh is konami

>>96315326
yugioh was brought up for comparison on the problems with the english side

Bandai was brought up as part of bushis ambition at one point in time

Have people figured out what makes Nannaclir tick or is it just high roll on turn 3 against a g2 and hope they can't recuperate?

>>96318139
What makes Nanking click is triple critical trigger

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If Yuyu beats Mirei would it be considered domestic violence or ableism? Would Danji interfere?

>>96318139
>deck is even more trash than liaek
>doing anything
Might as well send nannaclir players to lyrical cup since they actually have a non-zero chance of winning there

>>96323943
danji beats tohya after sex, he would be proud of yuyu

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>Artisaria bizarre adventure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shT9Qqx1BrQ

>>96331874
We were robbed of Liael vs Bav...

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>>96332056
Liael is prettier

>>96332056
That could've made for an interesting episode since both Mirei and Erika have experienced the loss of their brothers, but I'd chalk that up to both limited runtime and Bav', even with Mirei's slightly unoptimized deck, being extremely hard to write a loss for, especially for pre-set 10 Liael who was struggling a bit; there's a reason she won 3:0 when in brackets with Rakshasa and it wasn't for her alleged skill

It'd also be kind forced since neither know each other personally and the topic itself is a chief personal issue for both

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>break before Urara
They know who BEST GIRL is and had to recover their budget for her fight!

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>>96332849
Me and my wife

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>>96332056
We really were, I was really looking forward to that matchup

>>96333308
you want to see mirei losing that bad again

>>96333053
this frame is so funny lmao

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>>96333889
>Mirei losing to Erika
>only way this could've happened was during brackets or grand finals
>intro hyped up Erika vs. Akina
>only possible matchup would've been pre-banlist Bavsargra against pre-Draconis Liael
>Mirei's deck is only a couple cards away from being properly optimized to boot
>Erika runs fucking Liael's mind hacker equivalent and Amartinoa in a deck that runs Gabwelius
>canonically lost to Mirei in brackets and had to win a lottery to advance because she got whooped by Nao
>only in tournament victories were against a bot and someone who's deck she explicitly has a counter for
>barely won the latter to boot
Mirei probably slimed Erika and it wouldn't have been close, she was probably sweating from the sheer power Bushiroad gave her deck after highrolling her pieces; if anything the Deluxe got bailed out of another Bav sweep because she was unfortunate enough to be bracketed with a deck that somewhat countered hers in Drajeweled, albeit Michiru didn't even need Ignis and won despite getting turned into a skid mark in the first half in the worst possible way for Magnus

Her ass is on fraudwatch considering her remaining match until finals is against at most a low tier 2 deck in Nannaclir who only got there due to sacking a guy who nearly won despite having shitty luck his entire game with her

>>96333889
But Mirei beat Eirika

>>96334909
ok, but raise the stakes by having whoever wins decide her oniichans bride/sister in law

>>96334909
Mirei literally had the fight in the bag until bushi decided to have her guard fraudchiru first attack for no reason

>>96336577
Mirei found all of her pieces for a turn 3 victory, got a trigger on all of her drive checks and still managed to lose

As for Mirei misplaying on Michiru's final turn
>Mirei's total guard: 3 15ks, a 10k, 2 5ks, a 20k off of the shield and a PG with Persona in hand; totals 75k with the ability to null one last attack in order to hold onto Persona Ride
>Michiru's total board: 43k, functionally 3 48ks before triggers; requires 155k guard with two attacks twin driving
>Lithos was 43k going into 13k, demanded 35k
>Drajeweled swings a lethal two critical and sets her power to 0, demands 40k guard plus extra for drive checks, Mirei makes it a two to pass 50k
>Geodrahl demanded 40k plus extra for drive checks, possibly goes critical
>Lithos restood, demanding 40k plus whatever triggers Geodrahl gave, possibly goes critical
>Heal Trigger offline due to being at 4 damage to Michiru's 5
>Overtrigger wouldn't have changed anything since Drajeweled has the distinguished ability to negate even the 100m on attack; every attack after Lithos was possibly 2 critical
If she didn't guard Lithos' first 43k swing, that would've been a complete misplay against Drajeweled. She guarded correctly as Lithos would've set her to five damage or possibly remove the Overtrigger and could've hit even bigger off of the drive check on top of hitting harder due to the way the 0 alters magic numbers; she lost solely to triggers and she has no right to bitch about it when she crit him on her first swing and barely avoids healing on the second while Drajeweled Magnus can't even get extra drives due to Mirei being on grade 2, the latter entirely unpunished for pushing Magnus to 4 that fast

She would have still lost to Ignis with more certainty since Vapula is one of Drajeweled's big 3 cards and would've made Geodrahl two attacks for game, so no matter what she lost in that scenario, Magnus or Ignis, and especially if he used Vapula with Magnus by holding onto Ignis.

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>>96334814
Not so funny when you realize he fucks that

>>96344574
>same guy who let two legendary fighters get away from fighting each other
>despite inviting them seemingly for that purpose himself
>proceeded to then cockblock Michiru from fighting the next best fighter in the room
>likely because Jinki knows Akina has the better Keter deck and Michiru also knew this
>knows that Akina would probably smear the same guy he just lost to in the same episode because pure Magnus is pure ass
>Michiru probably ran Dimmea and playsets of both Rock and Lithos because advertising
>Jinki still lost
This guy is built like a flipflop but I aint calling him a fraud yet because he was a proxy for a bot for a season and a half before being made a side character; Gui is more of a fraud for how he went from gimmick to conventional deck as a transition from sweat to casual, and that's more than likely the result of being CardfightGPT

>Liael tits
https://x.com/MRLUFNIS/status/1957619697161241087

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https://x.com/pav_7yb/status/1957374807319642351?t=InqrsSkrGLv6Hsf2OZN6pA&s=19

Somebody post more art of my wife, Yuna

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>>96350590
Vanguard barely get fanart anon
https://x.com/Loquillo661/status/1832482393204113708

>>96350590
Your wife is a lesbian...

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Wingless odium

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balanced meta

>>96352904
Chiho cup is teams with I think a stiupulation that multiples of one boss cannot be used by a team.

>>96356031
Moon Man claiming the runner up from the big three recursion decks is still one hell of a comeback even with that in mind

Like, big time, Minerva is the current Eledglema equivalent as the meta's highroll OTK deck in a JP tournament no less and originally tier 3 Veissrugr still saw more play than her and every other individual deck except the first three

Might just be the scalpers as for why more Minervas weren't present, but then I wonder how hard Helgvarr is and will be scalped considering how the deck desperately needs a playset to be functional.

>>96352904
When's the broken Youthberk promo?

What's the deal with the Godzilla card game? Can you actually make a deck for a different kaiju or is it all just different versions of Godzilla

>>96356972
that would be that nebula knights order that's a stronger version of the youth order
>>96360519
It's funny how her deck plays like Vanguard Zero with the strong intercept option and the guaranteed power when damaged while also generally considered a rogue deck

a tier character, in spite of infrequent appearances

>>96360519
Too bad her only path is irrelevancy and jobbing plus loneliness or marrying the other jobber king of destined ones (also gay).

Senka happens to be a bunch of good ideas all thrown together to create a character without much to really complain about outside of her place in the story and subsequently limited screen time

and even the story can't help but favor her since she takes Ls in stride and is one of the only cases where matchup mattered arguably twice for her fights. How many times has the anime acknowledged whether or not a character has a legitimately bad or good matchup against another deck?

Instead of showing off Ignis' good matchup against peak Bavsargra, we got Magnus and Samupadru shilling with a weaker deck than the one Michiru used against Taizo HALF A YEAR AGO. I know it was awkward to write a fight that fit in all of the new cards' effects but at that point they shouldn't have kneecapped Magnus so fucking hard, especially considering what Bav' gets to do.

>>96363164
>That would be that nebula knights order that's a stronger version of the youth order
>A manga promo of all things
Why are they like this?

>>96370814
To be fair that order isn't 100% an upgrade as the Youth order can be used a turn earlier to enable Teithfallt and Cerrg if needed, albeit needing an entire CB for a top 5 that might just get damage denied

The youth order itself is also a whole three years old at this point, and it's not like it fixes Youthberk beyond making the Pile slightly stronger

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>"Incest is wrong"

>>96371877
OY! NO REUPLOADING!
Now Senka will come to you in your sleep.

>>96371888
Someone do the british edit, "oi mate you got a loicense for diddling ya brotha?"

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Apparently there's gonna be a new Krysrain as well

>>96374578
She definitely needs one; first skill costing CB1 for a whole lot of nothing in this economy despite being a pseudo highlander effect, and the Divine Skill is not carrying her like it does with some of the others, and yet she's supposed to be the head of Monasterio.

Somehow her goofy fan Lisciafael manages to not be a fraud and kind of deserves the name Supremacy with how she has access to triple drive, critical pressure, restands and higher base power to swing into, all of which being nearly all of the most meta defining effects in Vanguard rolled into one, and that was just her on release, and yet she's somehow not the meta beast that the top three are because she has a distinct lack of board breaking and hard consistency.

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>>96374662
Krysrain new divine skill lets you pick who you return now so her restander actually works on divine turn

>Lest squizo theory in twitter
I think Veissrugr will be the final "Villain" of the DivineZ arcs. Lemme explain why. As we know Veissrugr's design is heavily influenced by Loki, primarily known as a trickster god associated with mischief, deception, and...Chaos.
In vanguard the one unit that was tied to chaos itself the most was the laughing clown of Star-vader Chaos Breaker Dragon. Currently in the lore of D series the moon has turned blood red and caused units on cray to become violent, unruly, and "chaotic." Known as
The Blood Moon Disease.
The diease itself originated from Cray's 2nd moon that was originally the planet Brandt. As we know the invasion army Star-vader from said "moon" and their most powerful and influential unit Chaos Braeaker Dragon. Is hethe cause of the new corruption? Is he the virus long thought "dead" during the Messiah's era. Are the new Mythisch race made of the same energy as the Zeroth dragon's here to help, or are they here to spread the disease? To serve their "masters" in the upcoming trials. to bring about Ragnarok.
I believe the advent of the Moon Gate and the Blood Moon Disease are connected in the return of the Star-vaders that were sent back to their origins. The upcoming set 12 will probably reintroduce Chaos Breaker Dragon to the game as well as the corruption of Veissrugr in set 13.

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Why is she like this?

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>>96377698
Place your bets is Krysrain gonna be 'infected' or is Mikoto just gonna get Mythisch of Ever Changing?

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T3 Unison dress

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Akina, Erika, Nao and Suo have arrived at Wonderhill

>>96377753
a yes megumi brother,,,,

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You'd think next episode would be another DivineZ character vs Dress character but next up is Blackout's origin story featuring Ruka vs Tomari, so she can shill her new Seraph.

>>96377759
>Lets retcon overdress

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>>96377736
You're telling me Traumend, support for low-key a rogue deck with an OTK variant, got 100% compatibility with 99% of the old support support while Magnus couldn't even get +1 grade during the battle to at least use Vapula when that shit is mandatory to get the optimal 5 attack kill turn off at all?

And on top of that it's still 5 attacks on persona ride while Magnus' fucked at 4 while needing extremely harsh conditions to get an extra drive over Ignis, meanwhile Vivace doesn't entirely override the new support due to Traumend asking for that shit, so going into either or isn't deck breaking since you're running both for the Traumend build regardless and Vivace doesn't conflict with anything I think.
>>96377698
A lot of people connected Veissrugr to Odin because of the bird, but the Loki comparison is fair since Kagetsu is supposed to be shady and the Mythisch are implied to be relatives to the Moonkeepers, though Odin himself is a jackass like most mythological figures.

Regarding Brandt, in vanguard lore, Brandt was a different story from the Star-vaders, and sort of just became their crib after Messiah purified them a lot of them so His Jesus in Ibuki could have a new deck; the Mythisch being made of the same shit as the Zeroth Dragons isn't entirely unreasonable, but that's moreso how the energies of the sun is probably Fate Power on some level per Nirvana and the bird collecting that shit for the Gate, while Gyze made the ZDs by shoving his five spare pelvises into the planet

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The final battle of divinez will be yuyu vs akina both nude

Maybe we'll actually get a twist in the form of the intro being misleading

imagine it, the Deluxe finals between akina and erika gets skipped and shows erika winning without showing the fight at all

>>96377886
anon id ont want another jaden vs yugi ending in my life

>>96377898
ok bro but

holy shit divinez has been so much predictable that the fucking filler has more excitement; it was an actual tossup who'd win between returning side character and sidelined side character both rocking new support in need of glazing from the anime

also the amount of non-Deluxe episodes all of a sudden is rather ominous if they only have so many episodes to work with, which kind of implies something especially considering the plot point of red moon disease in the cray lore; it was less that theyd skip over the fight and more how that's suddenly on the table as a route they could take

>>96377886
I doubt it, although these last non deluxe fights have been taking a lot more time than I would have thought.
Episode 8 is Ruka vs Tomari and we still need to see Yuyu vs Akina.
I guess that still leaves episode 10 for Ruka vs Erika, episode 11 for Akina vs Michiru and finally episode 12 and 13 for Akina vs Erika and red moon disease teaser for next season.

>>96378068
yuyu not being the last boss of the season would be weird

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>>96378075
I guess you could put Yuyu at the end, my only problem with that is that I don't know what purpose that would serve.
Right now I'm imagining Yuyu's fight as prep work for Akina's fight vs Michiru. I image Yuyu would give Akina some advice and his opinions on Michiru

>>96378121
Didn't he deadass rip the Overtrigger to knock him out of finals after Michiru managed to pilot his ghetto wave 1 supported Drajeweled deck to the top?

Yuyu was admittedly working with the dress series equivalent to wave 1 Veissrugr but worse, however he had plot armor to make it work so that barely mattered for any of his fights

Also from what I've seen, modern x-overDress somewhat counters Ignis because they don't really give a shit about the backrow and the deck is pretty aggressive, though this is Magnus we're talking about so the best advice is to tell akina to stop being honorable and throw in Cerrgaon before Michiru realizes how ass Magnus is and goes back to his genuinely good Ignis deck after installing the new rideline and Geodrahl.

>>96377838
Which demographic was this for? Fujo? Gay men?

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>Release a master deck for Urara
>Then make an entirely new rideline
Cracks me up. Like the boss I can understand but the 0,1 and 2 being renewed shortly after gets me laughing

>>96377784
Magnus can always get more support. But in vision im pretty sure Magnus is not intended to stand on its own and its designed in mind of Drajeweled players just riding into Ignis kind of like Bastion Accord. Theyll probably even release a superior ride promo.

>>96378075
>>96378068
There's like 4 viable candidates for the finale fight
>Akina vs Erika: Tournament Ending
>Akina vs Nao: Farewell Fight because no couples allowed
>Akina vs Yuyu: Hype Legacy Match
>Akina vs Kagetsu: Red Moon Teaser

I don't know how I feel about the Mikoto episode. We've spent so long joking that the writers forgot about her, and then she got to win a fight. It feels like it was just wasting time, but also she really fucking needed it.

>>96378717
Ignis getting a superior ride from deck like the other G4s would be sweat inducing if not for the fact it'd be locked to either
going second or ride up and the Grade 4 might have all four copies still in deck, Ignis could use at that;
Bavsargra was tier 0 for basically being a turn 3 Ignis that could steamroll a G2 opponent and skidmark whoever failed to
force enough pieces out of her hand, and is basically still that if they find three Trickmoons

Magnus has an interesting gimmick of aggression that has a decent baseline if not for the restrictions, it feels less like they
wanted Ignis to remain the prime strategy and more that Magnus could realistically stand on its own with how it does nearly the same thing
if it wasn't so bottlenecked; it also feels like they were scared of Empousa looping Persona Ride like that doesn't kneecap the deck's
numbers and deck space running four of her if you aimed to get the 5k ASAP

It's not like it's a serious either/or case like Traumend is with Vivace because Ignis straight up gets a persona ride every turn automatically
for playing the deck while Magnus needs to use Empousa by design, who admittedly benefits a LOT from Magnus' 5k and the turn 3
power to 0; Magnus also straight up can't use any of the G4 support without including Ignis, and at that point why even bother with main deck
Magnus when Drajeweled's surprisingly sturdy tier placements have been entirely to its cracked lineup of G4 support, that would be
overpowered as shit in other decks, that are barely held back by requiring you to see a 4-of in hand that was already critical to your endgame

also you can just Empousa an Ignis if you're desperate for a copy for next turn, Empousa isn't even a good excuse for why Magnus is so kneecapped
>>96378891
Wasn't she already 2:1, I was expecting Urara to lose because she ended her last fight in major W and got cemented into the meta, so she
had the L coming, especially as karma for off-screening Mirei

>>96378891
>It feels like it was just wasting time, but also she really fucking needed it.
I'll be nice, and assume this is actually gonna go somewhere >>96377712

>>96378155
>Didn't he deadass rip the Overtrigger to knock him out of finals after Michiru managed to pilot his ghetto wave 1 supported Drajeweled deck
Yeah, but Michiru himself had guarded with his OT

>>96378641
Fujo, S1 really wanted the fujo audience. They pretty wanted the Kai/Aichi audience (and failed)

>>96379043
Man, I rewatched the all of Overdress recently and it was so fucking weird seeing how hard they dropped all the fujo baiting after season 1. I didn't realize how jarring it was while it was current.

>>96377753
I'm glad that Zakusa is close to the center, maybe they still remember that he technically should have all his Uniformers Training experience and thus be a >Michiru level cardfighter.

>Sybilt is dirt cheap
Weird, but good news.

>>96378891
Erika malding at both Suo and Akina was unironically the best part of the entire episode

>>96379987
if we're power scaling cardfighters, Michiru and Kagetsu are still on top of things, as we're not sure how far Zakusa went after the end of w+D S3

Kagetsu was explicitly above pre-awakening Michiru and got even better according to Gui, and, if we want to get technical, was able to pilot his deck while it was missing several key pieces for the entire Deluxe and pretty much cruised through it, while also beating Akina's tier 1 deck with the most bare bones version

Michiru, I think, is probably back to being at the very top, having gone through supposedly tens of thousands of cardfights and managing to get bored to the point he decided to bounce to see what he missed; his fundamentals are probably at the least the best out of everyone as a result, Kagetsu managing to get even better be damned, although Kagetsu does hold the distinction of surviving an Overtrigger fueled kill turn from Vita who managed to put it on a guard restrict

I'm thinking post-awakening Michiru>Kagetsu>Shirogane>at least pre-Uniformers Michiru, though since Shirogane presumably did get to benefit from Michiru's data in his training it's possible he's better than Uniformer's Michiru; Halona being considered the best Uniformer prior to Shiro' makes it a bit iffy but she's hard to quantify regardless, she got pitted against the strongest deck present at Hakusan while Shirogane matched against Yuyu, who had both plot armor and possibly a verison of x-overDress only missing Stravairina, which shouldn't be nearly as shit as the builds he had prior; I'm also iffy on Michiru going through tens of thousands of cardfights, which might be a mistranslation, and the dub goes with hundreds and thousands, which is still a shit ton of playtime on top of his prior skills and Uniformers training

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>>96381530
This is how I imagine the powerlevels

>>96382091
I feel like Mondo is supposed to be in the Top Tier considering the glaze he got from Tohya, but he is held back by playing B-Heroes

Is the list not ordered, and if it is what's the order?

>>96383403
The order is just left to right.
The only tier that's kinda fucked up is Top tier, since I pretty much placed them by feel and it's also kinda bloated.
It feels like the character feats are too similar and thanks to the writers wanting to give every Deluxe fighter a single win you end up with shit like Suo beating Suzune who beat Senka but then Senka beats Suo.

>>96382091
>>96384157
It does feel you could make a Great Tier and put the lower half of the Top Tier into that.

>>96384157
All of Suzune's matchups were extremely pronounced, as she fights Senka who she counters to an extent, Megumi who only goes down from 6 to 5 attacks and Suo, who's deck seems to be built as to prevent a frontrow lock in the first place and so he playted into the matchup when she didn't or maybe couldnt

She's a good fighter, and I cant call her a fraud, but she is in a weird spot since her deck is almost always matchup specific and the usually short fights don't play into Artisaria's strengths of a grindy game

As for Senka getting a w against Suo, keep in mind that Impauldio has a method of dealing with Blangd's Divine Skill, and that's by eating the vangaurd swing and possibly going up to 33k body with a single damage trigger and three xceed activations, which makes the turn a fuckton less scary, especially since Suo doesn't Game of Underworld his Veidrocks like real Blangd players do; Return to Zero doesn't affect Set Orders so she's still getting 5k for the turn for every damage taken in one turn, it was another case of matchup mattering

>>96384771
Like yeah, that's also the problem with trying to powerscale in Vanguard, you can say that a character's feats are match up dependent.
But then you have characters like Michiru, Kagetsu and even S1 Danji who are just always wanked off as the strongest regardless of matchups.

>>96385460
To their credit, those decks never really had relevant matchups come up in the anime, and in the case
of Veiss and Drajeweled, the decks were kind of shit until they got good support and then proceeded to
either not be used again like Ignis or made to practically brick like how Kagetsu never saw Helgvarr
until his kill turn when she would've helped build resources like he wanted; if anything, though, this
further cements their users as strong by proxy of taking these wack decks to nationals and topping

and in Danji's case, he was using one of the best decks during S1, hands down, so he was probably
carried by his deck on top of his decent skill according to Kagetsu like how Mirei did during Divinez
DELUXE; Lenard was fucking nuts for its time and it'd still be good if not for the second skill being
unusable with Viamance or when you're sitting on the G4

It's more reasonable to rank fighters by their estimated skill, which still puts Michiru at the top as
someone who was already the best of the best who then went on to spend over a year playing at least
thousands of games to perfect himself after already going through VR training beforehand and on top of
that, probably had the most optimized deck seen yet with nearly every card used against Taizo being
entirely reasonable to run in a competitive Ignis build at the time, only to drop all of it except for
Lithosargour when fighting the strongest deck in format and still winning. The relevancy of matchups
plays into shit like Erika nearly fumbling against Suo, despite the fact she has a fucking counter to
his deck's endgame, which is all the more reason how Senka>Erika is a fair take

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>>96385773
>Senka>Erika

Powerscaler niggas deserve the rope

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>>96387558
Powerscalers should kiss

>>96378717
To be completely fair, that shit was ass to the point Gracia needed to eat Rorowa like how Youth incorporated Sequanna into his revolDress Rebuild; they did the same shit with Drajeweled but at least you have a choice between the old Ride Line's early game power or the new ride line's consistency and flexibility; Drajeweled probably still isn't running pride cyclers since that soul is extremely valuable on top of Ignis' increased soulblast

Urara didn't even use the old Ride Line's effects when she played optimally against Prison for a reason, it would made her go minus on resources

But I swear to Messiah, they saw how hard they fumbled with Magnus and did none of the fuckups with Traumend as a result
>triple drive on turn 3, even against grade 2
>four drive checks on at least a Persona Riding turn 4
>neither of these have a fuckass damage requirement
>UnisonDresses on turn 3 to enable literally all of Lianorn's support ASAP
>works in tandem with Vivace instead of being entirely reliant on it, and works perfectly fine with Masque builds
>rideline damn near might work with Masques as well if that CB1 reduction isn't just for Traumend
It's not like Traumend even needed much to work with, Lianorn wasn't exactly built on UnisonDress to begin with, and they still gave her even that a turn earlier while Magnus couldn't even get +1 grade during just the battle phase

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I found this image in my folder I saved from like 5 years ago and it made me lol

So if the red moon disease thing is gonna be Reverse 3.0, mechanics wise how they are gonna make it different than Reverse and Masques?
Reverse was pretty much a crossride and Masques had the Order gimmick + serving as a persona ride.

>>96393047
God, Kagero is so cucked.

>>96393460
Closest thing I got was an extremely simple ride up mechanic that only might Persona Ride for Veiss

Man, for once, Bushiroad made the right call by making moon man's guard skill only work on Mythisch
>>96394737
They're just putting their stock investments in Standard, trust; meta's basically been Dragon Empire for over a year because in this format, Nations actually follow identity and Dragon Empire is the do anything except conventionally go plus nation that can take out rearguards, swing vanguard repeatedly and hit big numbers, all without much gimmick; making most decks not be able to easily retire shows why Kagero dominated for a lot of Standard format for ages and only suffered when they actually made it pay taxes when V format came around

It just took until the retires became cheap and the rearguards much more powerful for the nigh complete lack of retires in other Nations to be much more glaring

Also the X's V counterpart was stupid as hell and was Varga several years before Varga

>>96394901
Kagero dominated not really because of retirement but because they had creator bias. They had too many multiple benefit cards like Gatling Claw and cost reductions that made the opponent calling a near random card more costly than retiring it by providing extra power or a draw. Even when it came to bosses even shitty ones could be made glinto terrifying because they had Dominance Drive as a Break Ride.

Standard retirement/control itself is its own unique problem but I think its match up specific. Lyrical Monasterio and Keter are the only nations with decks that really struggle with it. Everything else can essentially just pull a working field out at a snap.

>>96397915
It is true that Kagero being favored is the more accurate reason why the Clan was dominant for a lot of classic Vanguard, though as you say, Dominate Drive was an extremely powerful card and all it did was give any G3 on turn 4 the ability to restand if you used its effect before another restander

The retire gimmick and what not, while there, only really got far due to how much support it got; Nubatama being Kagero's opposite in that respect as it only got support a couple years after the first four cards were made and never really saw its full power until G when it got some of the most busted cards in Vanguard history and later in V

I think people who believe Bav's retire ability needed the draw if it couldn't retire are insane for not acknowledging it potentially goes +2 in tempo for SB2 that bypasses targeted protection and adds crit pressure to a fairly huge vanguard swing all at once, even going first into a G2, especially considering the deck has little issues with soul and can make 30k boosts to its attackers with Trickmoons and just a single sword equip

It's a centralizing notion: if you're constantly getting board nuked and the opponent isn't, you're the one who's losing in the long haul since you end up wasting resources to fix your board while the opponent can cruise on their board; this is the fundamental problem with making retire effects easy and without any cost to aggression, and is honestly why Bav was locked to 3 attacks for years, on top of its ability to recur powerful boosters.

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>Sure they will learn and make the next one f2p

>>96400612
D Gacha soon...?

>Traumend only needs to go second to do the buffed effect
>Draj needs persona or LB4
Why do they hate Draj like this?

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>>96402983
Drajeweled Magnus having the 0 immediately does mean you can essentially go Ignis against a G2, since you end up getting an effective 15k to all of your attackers if you find another Drajeweled into soul, which the deck can somewhat easily do, especially if it finds Valack. Lithosargor also makes for potentially five attacks if you find the CB for it that can then bait out damage triggers for Magnus to wipe out, even the Overtrigger.

That alone is pretty damn scary and is a good reason people say that while Magnus doesn't compare to Ignis as a main boss, it's lethality over the original Drajeweled going into turn 3 cannot be understated and it sets up into Ignis very well with that soulcharge from drop that also lets you recur off of Zagan and Geodrahl; the problem is that Magnus as a boss is extremely clunky when compared to Ignis, who was designed too well to be seriously powercrept without making a tier 0 deck,
>G4, gets a 20k off of Twincast and can be searched with Forbidoll
>has extremely powerful support only it can use that still hasn't been powercrept
>Zagan, who would be banned in Premium if any less thought was put into the effect
>getting 15k and the extra drive every turn by default is strong; makes switching to Magnus' comparatively absurd conditions on the 15k and extra drive feel like shit
>is the entire Burgen-Truck that filled up on gas and runs over the opponent's back row every turn
>all of the support just draws for some reason, and I mean ALL of it, everything Ignis has is either adding to hand or is Zagan, on top of doing shit like turning anything into a restander and setting up soul without tearing through the deck
Ignis had way too much going for it and any comparable support, like Geodrahl, runs the risk of making another Bav'

Definitely feels like Traumend learnt from Magnus' mistakes

>3 weeks in
>drajobber didn't do shit in tournament
KWAB. Truly didn't deserve to be the face of the set. Even more so when along side with that ugly piece of shit of a dragon is kekchiru who looks like a loser otaku with that yee yee ahh haircut

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I just looked at Michiru's deck that he brought going into a Bav match that he was fully aware of
>full playsets of both 'argours
>playset of Leimina (soul cycler that calls from soul for CB1 if called during Persona Ride)
>runs only Forcalors and no Vapulas despite running 8 self-restanders
>3 Rystal Galer
>only Drajeweleds are his Persona Ride copies when Magnus needs a Drajeweled in soul to get the 5k
>not even bothering to shill Dimmea despite running 8 Demonic Stone Dragons
What the fuck was Michiru cooking? And let me remind you that he was playing a tournament viable Ignis build a season earlier that he presumably reduced Ruka to a skidmark with.

And then compare it with what Mirei was packing, which as it turns out, she actually WAS running four Vairlords the entire time on top of the deck being even stronger than her original build she went 3:0 with, seemingly being an aggrp build that went second and still lost to Michiru's excuse of a deck; there is no way he should've won this

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And this is what his deck looked like before he fucked it up

>>96402983
That's not even the worst part: Lianorn got a second Rosarium Fairy, full stop, and Rosarium works with any Lianorn while the newer one works with both Traumend and Vivace

Meanwhile Geodrahl is, in over 95% of cases, just a Zagan that actually costs something and can't be used on G2 while giving Drajeweled energy problems and doesn't change the fact Zagan demands a G4 Drajeweled, meaning only Ignis can feasibly use both since deck space is tight

>>96405601
I don't kind that as much since Draj got the nicer thing in set 8 with Lithosagour.
I do wish Geodrahl was useful though.

>>96406361
It's not like Drajeweled in general got subpar support lately, Lithos is extremely good with Magnus added, letting the deck actually clapback against rushes going first; Dimmea being CB1 for maybe a draw one or blind SC2 if you didn't in set 8 feels puzzling, especially considering it filters for Demonic STONE dragons and not demonic JEWEL Dragons that Magnus asks for; not that strong of a card even if it worked like a Bifrons or did the old Drajeweled's SB2 to draw if different grades

Is there a consensus on Compositive Freaks? I've gotten mixed signals and it seems like a decent card primarily held back by the lack of deckspace, which Drajeweled seems to have difficulties with considering the numerous staples.

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>>96404031
>>96404072
The strongest...

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So uh, card that flew under my radar is a common from D Set 3 that can give Geodrahl proper magic numbers and a guard restrict it can recur since the bitch souls herself and Magnus can soul from drop.

Maybe there WAS a reason Magnus was so restricted, though this is Dark States so trigger checks aren't exactly hot.

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>>96407282
...will LOSE to the guy who learned how to play Vanguard a week ago.

>>96409074
michiru lost to vairina yuyu overdress xdress squizo deck, he no longer care

>>96409074
All he needs to do is crack open some CoroCoro start deck packs for Cerrgaon reprints and he'll be good to go; Mirei ran four Vairlords so this should be tournament legal for a worse deck

It would even line up with Akina's strategy of taking what he learnt from others to heart
>after Kagetsu whooped him with a tier 3 deck because deck thinning is deck winning, he took to adding more draw and filter options to improve his Divine Skill late game
>after Raika smoked him for not pressuring him enough, he added ways to check the top card of his deck to make his non-Divine Skill turns more threatening
>after watching Michiru use matchup knowledge beat a tier 0 deck with locals garbage, he ought to add Cerrgaon to find defensive pieces while further filtering

>>96409087
>strongest
>knelt to: Danji, Gui, Yuyu, Akina (soon)
>never made it out of top 4
>avatar suffered a humiliating defeat in lore by dealing no damage to a tree despite trying

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Been like almost a decade since I've bought any cards of this (last time was Vanguard G era with Generation Stride and G-Guardians)
Could I buy 4 boxes of this and build a decent Great Nature deck? I only cared about the furries in this card game tb.h and just want to have fun, don't really care about getting my ass kicked too much. I notice there's not too many decklists for Great Nature online though.

Can anyone explain to me how exactly the whole "period rule" works? I remember there was a card they had to errata because the period made it so you could use part of the skill outside of the correct deck. For example, does the period in Sylvan Horned Beast Marlgol's second skill means you can give the 5k to another unit even without playing the soul blast? Do you even need a vanguard with Magnolia in its name for the second part of the skill?

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UnisonDress] - [CONT] (VC):This unit is in the [UnisonDress] state.

[CONT] (VC):All of your rear-guards with "Lianorn" in their card names get "Boost", and grade -2.

[AUTO] (VC)[1/Turn]:When this unit attacks while not boosted, [Stand] all of your back row units with "Boost", and boost this unit with them. If you boosted with three or more units, [COST][Counter Blast (1) & Energy Blast (2)], this unit gets drive +1 until end of turn, and perform one of the following at the end of that battle.

•Choose two of your back row rear-guards, and [Stand] them.

•If your opponent's vanguard is grade 3 or greater, choose one of your rear-guards, [Stand] that unit and this unit, until end of turn, they get [Power]+10000/drive -3, [COST][put a card with "Lianorn" in its card name from (RC) or hand into soul], and they also get drive +1.

>All that and still probably still wont be meta
Its better than Magnus and Magnoliathose things are jokes. Comedies but these boss upgrades have been dropping off kinda hard post Bavsargra. I dont expect much from the new Seraph this week. Even Cadenza they made out to ultimately just be a buff to its once a game Divine Skill

>>96413735
It's explained on the wiki's "Then" page.

When a part of a skill's effect has a period, that means a full stop into new effect. A further effect is not hinged on that first part of a skill
being fully resolved when it goes off unless it directly involves it like with alternate increases if certain conditions are met.

I'm not sure about cost requirement to reach Marlgol's second skill, because Vanguard effects have evolved in terms of their
presentation, and the example cited on the wiki in "Helldeity Seal Dragon, Crossorigin" is an ACT ability that lets you pay the cost without
first meeting a condition to start the skill's effects.

If the cost being unpaid doesn't stop the effect from technically activating, then you should be able to give 5k to another Sylvan Horned
Beast without paying anything, since it's not by itself hinged on paying the SB1 with a Magnolia vanguard, but it does need the skill to be
activated, and I'm not sure if that's done if you don't pay the cost of the first part.
>>96413787
Magnus is a pretty great improvement when looking at Ignis builds, but on it's own two feet it's unworkable compared to Traumend
having none of the drawbacks Magnus has with being a G3 persona rider; Magnus definitely could've used a Grade +1 while on VG at
the very least, if not straight up being able to Persona Ride on top of Ignis somehow; Ignis is just that solid.

Heard of someone glazing Patriarch, but in Patriarch's case, Elder hasn't exactly aged that well, and one of the reasons Aksayya has
worked is because she's straight up also considered the original, if she wasn't
>Trickmoon straight up couldn't DressBoost at all, only Vairlord could
>none of the old Arms would work, can't Mace the backrow or get a Battledore effect
Probably wouldn't make her bad because Cindi and friends, but it would hurt.

>>96413246
Unless you have a really good deal with those boxes would just recommend singles. Regardless, Great Nature as a clan doesn't exist anymore. Clans got merged into nations after several reboots and a 3000 year timeskip. You'd have an incredibly hard time finding people to play with Premium format (all cards allowed), or V format (for sets like Mysterious Fortune) instead of the current Standard format.

>>96414489
>several reboots
G wasn't really a reboot so much as an extension of the original eternal format Vanguard ran on for nearly a decade, before attempting to see what a retro styled format would look like in V

to think of V as a form of retro format is some parts sad and some parts comedic, and that's before we get into the Phantom Dragon Aeon situation; there's some cool visions but fuck man, the meta just got too fast and the cards making certain clan's strides pointless, although me personally, Daimonas making Dark Irregulars a nuttier Neo Nectar was funny as fuck

And then they fucked up the format one last time and somehow made Glendios a rogue deck and Steam Maidens of all things tier 0 despite the format being nearly dead

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>>96414546

>>96419579
>Whole ass booster boxes for ~$15
I wish this was *MY* dead card game...

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>All the good bosses either gain critical on attack or restand while having inflated numbers

I hope they remake these triggers soon. Bosses need to get punished for all this meta-esque samefagging. A new Sanctitude definitely needs to happen as well,specifically one at least for the critical Vanguards since its not hard to find ones that go live with no grade restriction anymore.

>>96420311
I mean how many aren't Bav' in terms of getting critical against G2s?

Bav' came from a simpler time as a three attack deck with a lot of bricking, and Aksayya was the result of poor planning with regards to how powerful a skill would be when the requirements basically don't exist.

Shit like that bit Drajeweled's honest ass when his double crit only against G2 and extremely conditional extra drives got bottlenecked because of how good the G4 support is and the possibility of it breaking because cards like Quen Lu exist, and only after Magnus flopped do they give fucking Lianorn, a far better performing deck than Drajeweled in all honesty, a new boss that works and a second Rosarium Fairy that has no restrictions like how Geodrahl does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK3wUeaDFFU

How strong is Prison, even with as old of a boss as Seraph White?

>DELUXE Finals
>barely any deluxe this season
Kek

yuyu vs akina next week, at this rate half the arc is outside of deluxe

Akina's obligatory loss and then he sweeps the tournament the end

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they didnt bring yuyu to make him lose, right?

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>>96427285
Strong enough that to this day it still sees tops with a Grade 3 released in one of the very first trial decks of D formst and a grade 4 from the 4th set of D when we are like 20 sets later. It doesnt entirely keep up with the meta though because theres a ton of on call to recycle with Prison and make up the cost.

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Overall felt like a wasted episode, played out exactly as you'd expect. Next week is the big MC showdown

>>96428409
Of course not, he's gonna win and then give Akina a card that he uses to beat Michiru

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>>96428487
>yuyu in his way to brick akina deck

>>96428495
Akina is gonna get TrickFeather and his own OD

>>96428487
>played out exactly as you'd expect

>New cards take the loss against the older cards
>Also Ruka legitimately fucks off and has no further development with Kagetsu

It was wasted because they put waaaaay too much investment into explaining the Blackout birth but it didnt play out as I thought.

>>96428580
Tomari's jobbing ass was never gonna beat Ruka

so are we getting a new nirvana? because a new vairina is not going to carry the deck alone

>>96428865
Set definitely has the RRR slots for it considering Magnus' wheelchair-bound ass got one for himself and his specialized support card.

At the very least, a new Nirvana needs to give protection or some kind of extremely good recursion considering we're still in Bav meta, on top of shit like Heartluru and Veissrugr not giving a fuck about even Bracing Angel Ladder.

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Younger Mirei

>>96428865
Surely we will. I'm more curious of if the new Vairina is a regular OD or XOD or even a new type of OD

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>>96429243
it look more like a xod than normal, also they are not introducing a new mechanic just for a random duel

>>96429267
Name is definitely indicative of x-oD, no oD units have a prefixing title and are just "Vairina X", even Vairlord is just Vairlord

also they DID technically introduce brainrot for Sybilt alone, both for Varga and her own card that never appeared in the anime, but the name is almost certainly for a x-Overdress unit

>>96428408
I honestly think they'll give Erika the win since the loss won't really hurt Akina at all and this will allow her to job next season.

>>96429187
>still in Bav meta
They have defanged so much from Bav I dont really think you can call this her meta anymore. Heartluru, Vygilla and especially Minerva who id argue is stronger than post lost ban all stand up there with her.

>>96429458
Thoughts like that need to be reminded that they gave Akina Rifistor amd that theres likely some other new shit for him to whip out in his fight against her and also Michiru

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>This stupid bimbo had double Comet and then CALLED OVER ONE
>And she hard rode the Grade 4 instead of using Security Upgrader,wasting a counterblast
She deserved this loss

can we get a villain nex season please, I'm getting bored of these buddy buddy fights and everyone just smiling at each other and having no problems

>>96430860
at best you are getting a depresed person with traumas

>>96430860
Red moon disease soon

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>>96431314
can Masanori summon the devil again or something

>>96430348
She still defines the meta, as Heartluru and Vyrgilla have answers to her constant board nuking via their extremely good recursion and ability to keep up with her pace while Minerva is just the obligatory OTK deck like Eledglema, she's just not tier 0 anymore.

Also "defanged" is stretching how hard they hit Bav' considering she still has
>Trickmoon
>the one-of Vairlord
>non-targeted front row retires that asks for the opponent to go potentially -2 to fix board going into their next turn
>said effect also makes her go critical, even against G2
>Rancor Chain for EB3 in a deck that can recur the required discard fodder
>said Rancor Chain is also a multiattacker
>an EB3 to recur G2 and make it able to hit into a 13k body by itself
>said self-recurer can also check top 5 for an Arms or DressBooster to drop, which the deck can then recur
>Cindi, fucking Cindi, who is partly why Vairlord is insane
>a 20k beatstick that can also filter 2 pieces from top 7
>an in archetype backrow restanding Shenryi
only change now is that she can't accidentally OTK people by either finding multiple Vairlords or ripping Dragveda turn 3 onwards that makes her go +3 and swing again with a two critical vanguard demanding yet another PG or die.
>>96430640
Depends, she drew two off of the Corners which might've been Security Upgrader and Clearlight, who was needed for the 10th in Prison, so it's possible she didn't immediately have the optimal kill hand and decided to go for 4 double critical swings instead of 5.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Tomari got bribed by Bushiroad so that they can make Nannaclir look decent when Prison is such a better deck in its current state, though I've gotten word that Nannaclir isn't THAT bad, it would've lost this match up considering she still didn't go first and went against a superb Prison kill turn.

At least Michiru has the excuse that he's Drajeweled's Jesus on earth as for how he got away pulling up to the Bav matchup with a deck like that.

I see someone does not enjoy propane and propane accessories
Im gonna kick your ass

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>>96443319
anon fucking off yourself

>>96439290
Half of those are whores...

>>96443957
we know erika and hikari

>>96443337
The only thing thats going off is my foot. Destination your ass

>>96413787
urara should jump off a second floor balcony with an affixed, state certified, noose around her neck and let gravity do its work for advertising this card as something you persona ride into. rewatching the episode and its mind boggling retarded she planned to do so while she also still has Vivace in her deck.

I dislike dumb cunts. Mirei was also a dumb cunt. Is Yuyu also going to be a dumb cunt?

>>96445513
>Mirei
I mean Tomari

>>96445513
I doubt Yuyu is going to do the same sort of shit Urara and Michiru did because only half of the G4s actually aged that well, and Nirvana's G4 was hard carried by the support, on top of not working with x-oD

There ain't no way a new Nirvana WONT just be better unlike Ignis and often times Vivace are; the problem Urara made when ending on Traumend over Vivace was that she didn't include/find Rosarium Fairy and Silverwhite, which made her Traumend look weak as hell and it also didn't show off the nuance it has over Vivace in dealing with damage triggers and the huger attacks; she also only confirmed Vivace after going into the Persona Ride turn so she might've missed it.

It's another case where the anime seemed to realize that there was no way to show off a deck's highroll without the opponent just dying to it; no chance in hell to write Mikoto as surviving a REAL Lianorn kill turn.
>took the initial barrage, Rosarium Fairy/Silverwhite wouldn't change this part
>nulled the Vanguard swing, huge fuck Vivace swing also wouldn't change this part
>Traumend swing was actually big compared to a turn 4 restood Vivace, +20k over +5k and had a triple drive prior and one extra drive check for the second to beat over defensives and keep pressuring
>would've closed out the game if she ran Silverwhite, as it could add at least 15k to the Rosarium G2 and Mikoto didn't have the hand to guard that
The only problem with that turn was the lack of Silverwhite; Vivace's second wave of attacks would suffer to some damage triggers while Traumend's combination of a 10k boost and Persona Ride immediately on the kill turn would deal with them better in exchange for the sixth attack.

It's just Magnus but it actually works with the original deck, either as a buffer for the old boss or its own kill turn outright without the bullshit, all while never bricking any of the support.

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>>96446422
>>There ain't no way a new Nirvana WONT just be better
its difficult to do a worse card than this with the current powercreep in the game

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>>96446458
Had to give Nannaclir an arguably shittier version of Seph's EB3 to make her stand out.

Jheva was good for its time on paper, but damn, the restand is so standard issue nowadays that getting another column swing is what we now work with, unless your deck is huge numbers and instead has a 4-of self-restander that makes it piece reliant. Going +1 every turn was interesting but it never really turns into advantage, especially when it's a control format.

And this anon was especially talking about that poor bastard Mahar, who's only rivaled by "Unrivaled" Bruce in terms of how bad it aged; even Prime sees use since Accord decided to be released before DZ and Magnolia has yet to fully wean off of Elder because Persona Riding is a bitch and Patriarch demands CB every turn

>>96446422
You have been butthurt about magnus being shit for days now. STFU and take the L

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>>96446849

maybe hank hill had a point

this thread is running out gas faster than Blangdmire after whiffing the rideline and the turn 3 zamuug

>>96448163
more like vanguard is unkown asfuck outside of jp, we are in /tg/ aka a niche board in 4chan, and we are in 4chan a niche community in general

>>96448199
Vanguard reached a good peak a while ago, was the loss of the eternal format that big of a hit for en or was it the general shit like GRs, the 16 card extra deck comprised of a bunch of GRs and the centralizing meta?

V had a good premise but was scuffed as fuck by the immediate VRs that were just as bad as GRs like Chronodragon Nextage, though they're doing very well regarding D with the reduction from the inflated 20+ clans to 6 nations, maybe the anime's rocky start hindered the growth on top of yet another format change. D felt closer to the classic experience than V did with the simpler effects, though DZ is starting to approach V with its wack meta game, albeit it's way better than the tier 0.5 formats of Gurguit and Hamiel.

>>96446422
>she also only confirmed Vivace after going into the Persona Ride turn so she might've missed it.
yeah and thats due to her bad deckbuilding. actually adding extra traumends so she can persona ride on it is really stupid. theres like 4 ways to draw in the deck and one of the draws is tied to a failure of a top 7 check for a lianorn. topped with how traumend in the ride deck has a discardless triple drive,Vivace can be 4x main deck and the fact that you can mulligan, she knee capped herself and then said shit like
MIKOTOSAN TSUYOI
MAKERU TO WA OMOTTE INAKATTA
WATASHI WA KARESHI NO OKINA CHINCHIN GA DAISUKIDESU

what a bitch

>no chance in hell to write Mikoto as surviving a REAL Lianorn kill turn.
Mikotos so pathetic.

>>96448163
>>96448287
I just want a good villain again bros. Sybilt was such an interesting return to form but too short...
She should have won her season finale, then there would be regrouping, planning, and being defeated a season later.

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>>96448802
>red moon shit happens
>Sybilt's power in rasetsu acts up
>pulls a Good Yamigedo and manifests despite the original being dead
>steals the Malwyrm keyword from vargra and cardfights Nao using a Sybilt deck
>entirely plausible because Oksizz pulled up to GZ after over three years
>Sybilt's ride line alone represents the most important series of events that's relevant to the DZ anime
>pulls an Erika and demands Nao be shipped with Akina
>has all of the reason when Gabwelius is in Erika and Akina resembles Sperod
>also gets to use the superior remix of Nao's insert again after a year
>fight ends in a turdkuna situation
>sybilt actually accepts the arrangement of living dormantly in Nao

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>>96450004
why do you want syblit do watch akina fuck nao?

>>96448163
Its because all we talk about is Vanguard which doesnt have much to bitch about compared to other TCGs like One Piece that have these nonsense combos and stuff that utterly remove your involvement from the game. If you look at other TCG threads theyre about
A Fucking the opponent like they are someone elses wife
And
B Bitching about how messy the balance is

Strictly speaking with Vanguard our biggest concern is practically always just triggers

>>96450546
>all we talk about is Vanguard
>Bushiroad Card Games General
Think I found the problem

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>>96450546
>Strictly speaking with Vanguard our biggest concern is practically always just triggers
>The 140$ game 2 alredy forgotten

>>96450560
shadoba alredy have a thread so there is no point and weiss is dead asfuck

>>96450581
Imagine being a multi million dollar corporation with international recognition and seeing one of your bigger IPs video games get btfo by a
SHITTY
TUNER GAME

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>>96450594
funny because Weiss is somehow in the top 5-10 regarding card sales and ahead of VG

seems like an alternative to pokemon in that sense, even if it only has a tenth of the revenue

>>96450019
Nao having a transformation to use in later seasons would be cool visually. Probably not for friendly Tournament arcs like now, but if we get another plotline I would watch Sybilt!Nao wrecking someone from any new villains with a smug on her face.

>>96453978
>The list have tcg so is not a jp list
>Mtg the last

>>96454744
>not a jp list
>duel masters
anon...

>>96454479
If Sybilt-Nao's design isn't just too tacky for the animators, it'd be nice to bring back one more time; FATAL Finale was also used all of one time, which is the only insert song in the DZ side to not be used more than once, along with Into The Cemetary and maybe that one song that played when Tohya and Danji fought with G4s in S2.

also a missed opportunity to give Into The Cemetery to Masanori for DZ, though admittedly the absence of an insert did make the fight between him and Jinki more unpredictable

>This is the only affordable way to get my hands on a Lateefa for Sybilt and wirbel
I'm so tempted to just print out the Lateefa art over these fucking things.

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>>96456025
In my wrathfulness, I forgor to upload this piece of shit.

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>>96450004
I just want my baby back.
He deserves a good ending, he did many things wrong but his heart was generally in the right place.
Sperod two(Akina) deserves a good ending and Sybilt deserves to see that shit.

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>>96456038
>laughs in Keter Pile
I also noticed that the Nebula Knights order not only stole Youth's order but also Bifrons' first effect if you're actually playing Nebula Knights, as its cb1 check top three, ditch one, hand another and do a Nation-specific thing with the third with a couple 5k boosts late game

doesn't really save them from being kind of mid but it's pretty funny

New bread >>96461687