Good old times edition>ReminderUnbanning Heartfire Hero is the only thing that can save Standard from Vivi>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96355144 >TQWhat's your favorite card tied to a specific tribe or creature type?
I like the Monoist aesthetic because it reminds me of the Necromongers
>>96363773You keep what you kill
>>96363737There will be no more real Magic sets until 2026 what are your hopes and fears about Nu-Lorwyn anons?
>>96363782>No one cosplaying as a Lensor
>>96363793>Unannounced non-standard setMODERN HORIZONS 4 BABY LET'S GO
>>96363793>>96363805Reminder this image is fan-made, there has never been a single announcement anywhere about a seventh set next year, it's literally just pulled out of somebody's ass. I'm not saying it's not a thing, but there's currently no reason to believe it is a thing. The art for the first two is just key art for Lorwyn and I'm not even sure where the Strixhaven art is from, the 'event set' art is from a TDM card and the Marvel thing is probably just some comic cover.
>>96363793Niggers
>>96363737>TQliterally the only good tribe
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>>96363814shut up let me be angry
tq
>>96363793needs yugioh universes beyond to finally test this games rulings book to the mettle.>if, not when, then there, missed timings.when was the last time some key word was actually original and not just rehashes of a mix of old mechanics.>waterbending>firebending>random ff one of keywords that will never be used again
>>96364007I always found this card funny because it used the chinese flag in the 1800s
>>96364069I want to put cards into my Opponent deck and have trap cards indeed so for my is alright to twist the rules as much as possible.
>>96364069>>96364097>Trap X: Exile this card face down by paying X. You can cast it as if it had Split Second on a later turn. You can only Trap as a Sorcery.
>>96364069What kind of keyword do you think would be actually original? Like >>96364252 is just a variant of plot.
>>96364007>me: turn 1, ancient tomb, lotus petal, cast show and tell>you: uhhhh... i wish i was running foils right now... okay>me: okay put down creatures. me first. i put down hypnox
>>96363737You wake up today as the CEO King President of WOTC.You have one task- FIX STANDARD.How would you do it?Hard Mode: How would you do it... but you are only allowed to make ONE big change?
>>96364396Standard is now commander
>>96364396delete standard
>>96364323for example, a keyword like magical hats.basically a keyword where you can actually put stuff face down on the battle field, except universal, not just some dread or morph thing, but even for lands, or enchantments etc.
>>96364401>complains about standard balance>thinks cuckmander is somehow better balanced with 11 hour ruleshark final games being normal.cuckmander is a joke of a format that is an inconsistent mess with realpolitics being the real emphasis on victory rather than skill
Charges, officer?
>>96364418That's the point, you push the responsibility to balance standard onto the players. Now they fight among themselves instead of blaming JotC.
>>96364424premodern and many other non tranny formats does a fine job at balancing the formats, cuckmander is just a shit format with not properly thought out rules., nothing to do with the ability of the players to balance.
>>96364438>*premodern and many other non jotc monitored fan formats.emphasis on unofficial, since you also got pioneer on life support.also due to the annoying thing with commander, basically every single set is now designed with commander in mind, its precisely why red was so pushed recently(since aggro is weak as hell in this shitty format and needs to be given steroids) then you got the colourpie breaks because of retarded commander rules making people locked in certain colours for stupid reasons.
>>96364438Premodern does not exist for WotC because a format only exists if they can print cards into it. The hypothetical question was concerning WotC, of course premodern has to be ruled out
>>96364396Step 1: Bring Nosewater behind the building and Fire him in the manner done in grorious ChinaStep 2: Repeat step 1 but for the rest of the MTG and D&D design teamsStep 3: Ban all cards printed in the last five years from all formats and ban commander since its not MTGStep 4: End the reserved listStep 5: Go back to the original art styleStep 6: Build compounds equipped with swimming pools, showers, dentists, and big signs at the entrance stating Arbeit Macht FreiStep 7: Start rounding up and shipping Jews to those compounds so they can have their own Hebe reservations yet separate from the rest of humanityI'm going to have to work on the rest of the steps after that. But I think this would be a starting point.
>>96364410I don't understand what you mean. For starters, you can already do that with lands and enchantments. There's multiple cards that can put others face down.
>>96364524yes but there needs to be a consolidation of keywords, so many different ones that keep doing similar things, they need to change some rulings to merge certain contexts together, or simply make a keyword for the action of for example puting things facedown. there are already currently like 3 different ones just for puting stuff facedown
Would this be a good addition to a mono white heroic pauper deck?https://scryfall.com/card/stx/16/eager-first-year
>>96364543Ok but that's the opposite of making original keywords like we were talking about.
This is a sick card and would help a standard a lot. They should have put it in the regular set and just said they can cast it for 5 as long as it remains exiled If you’re printing shit like Vivi you need top tier interaction
>>96364543>>96364584Best thing to do is get rid of keywords to help limit the number of abilities that can be put on a single permanent.
Just play Premodern and have fun again. It's that simple.
>>96364396>How would you do it?Remove all sets currently in print for standard, create a set with a similar power level to the original Ravnica, which will be the standard going forward. Quarantine UB to eternal formats only (which are a lost cause anyway) and keep Commander bullshit in commander products only.
>tqI love ouphes bros
>>96364420Mike Flores told his buddies to buy Rain of Gore because he made a broken deck with it and Beacon of Immortality. He took it to MTGO, pulled off the combo, and his opponent's life total went up. SELL! SELL!I like Remedy with Roar of Jukai online, because MTGO doesn't make it clear what's happening, they just see their life dropping.
>>96364573It's weaker than Seeker of the Way, and it's unlikely you're playing that.
>>96364730>Original RavnicaTHE ONE THAT PRINTED DREDGE!?
>>96365220Hilariously, not a problem at all in Standard.
>>96363737I really wish WotC would do more with subtypes, whether it be creatures types or rooms or spacecrafts or whatever. It's always food synergies or treasure synergies. For some reason, whenever I see them talk about how the designers and players don't generally like tribal sets, it's because they feel pressured to only build around one specific creature type, even if that's not the most optimal way to build a particular tribal deck. I felt like kinship really bridged the gap well, suggesting you would only get a small bonus from running similar creatures, and even then, it was still by chance. Considering the FIRE philosophy they've developed, they could easily design cards nowadays that were fine on their own, but really strong when you reveal the same creature type.>TQA specific tribe? Honestly, most of my favorite tribal cards are either generic tribal cards or care about 2+ types. Also, most of the tribal cards that I like that WotC prints nowadays have tribal mechanics that only seem to be meant to be relevant in commander, so I'm not sure I should really include them in the running. If I had to pick one though, it would either be the OP pic or Nova Chaser.
Reminder: OP's thread is shill created and was posted before the bump limit. The real thread, Mark Rosewater should be promoted (again) edition is linked below.>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430OP should be sentenced to playing standard for the next 4 months.
I just want to take a moment to express my absolute maximal disgust at pic related being just some random irrelevant flavorless Human and not a Spider.
>>96365508The creatives and designers at WotC hold great disdain for arthropods. Case in point, the first time they've ever printed spider tribal support outside the occasional one-off commander card every 5 years is in the fucking Spider-Man set. Is it any wonder that they waited until they did a set themed around outer space before they reintroduced sentient insects to the game via aliens that were designed to look creepy?
>Cutter is still legal in PioneerWizards, just kill the format already. Why are they still pretending it's a format they support.
>>96365519It's not that they hate arthropods it's that most normies have a phobia of them. Most games have an arachnophobia mode which removes spiders so there's no upside in including random spiders unlike dogs or cats.
>>96365541Hey Mark.How about you make a good product instead of caring what people with shit taste think about it?
>>96365541>It's not that they hate arthropods it's that most normies have a phobia of them.You say that, but WotC have no problem printing powerful snakes every few sets, even though ophidiophobia is the second-biggest animal phobia. Nagas have been a frequently-returning creature type for many years now, at least until they got errata'd to snakes.I genuinely believe there's some sort of bias specifically against arthropods at WotC, where they refuse to print any spiders or insects with powerful abilities outside eternal formats (i.e., commander). It's even evident with Genemorph Imago from the showcase misprint that they were almost certainly going to make it a legendary creature (probably named Kadrik) until they changed it somewhere near the end of development, hence the template didn't match the final product, leaving the only legendary Eumidian to be restricted to the commander precon. That also probably explains why they didn't include an insect lord to grant benefits to run Eumidians or any of the other insects in EoE, but they were fine putting Swarmweaver in Duskmourn, because the latter was designed with a "scary" set in mind.
>>96364323Yeah, just like Saddle, Crew and Station have similarities.The fact that the opponent doesnt knows what exiled and that even if he does (like you only play one Trap in your deck) he cant do anything about it is what sets it apart from Plot. Also it will be paid with colorless only.
The Last Airbender
want to start playing magic with my friend who already has an old collection but my fuckass eastern european country only has MH3 and Foundation bundles (no starter collection), Final Fantasy starter kit and the rest of FF stuff. which of these is the least horrible way to start? (i know how to play just don't have cards)
>>96365679No, not just cabbage merchant....THE. Cabbage Merchant, thank you very much.
>>96364730I would do something similar, but leave say the most recent 2~3 sets in standard still.
>>96365679>>96365725And everything changed when the Fire Na'vi attackedhttps://youtu.be/rv8CkgGItd4?t=126
Is the Spiderman set out yet?
>>96365759No but next month
>>96365679>Cabbage merchantWhy? For what purpose?
>>96364459They could reprint cards and get money from said format, so people who play it wont have secondary market as their only source of cards. They dont even need to be standard legal for that.
>>96365774Buying cabbage, mate.He sells cabbage.
>>96365541>Most games have an arachnophobia mode>Citation needed
>>96364396Split off from Hasbro.
>>96365541>to allow players to play with what they enjoy and not play with things they don't.So where's my MH-free Modern and Legacy?
>>96365944Woah there, Doctor Doom!we can't just go around catering to our players! We're a small indie company and do NOT have the resources for that!
On Arena you you can play >Alchemy and experience the full vision of Magic as Rosewater intended: Izzet prowess with Vivi and Cutter in the same deck. They even nerfed the Cutter digitally (no +1/+1, no trample) and it's still the best deck.
>>96365774If mtg can have orcish librarian card it can have a cabbage merchant card.
>no in-universe set until january 2026i regret not going to tarkir pre-release, holy fuck
>>96366042>AlchemyImagine lmao. I rather play Hearthstone.
>>96366205What? You don't enjoy Faggatar or Spooderman? For real? But you will get to play Guy in a Chair and Cabbage Merchant! Think anon!
>>96364396I'd change the number of concurrent-sets available in Standard. Maybe turn Standard into "Current set + Foundations" only.
>>96365771Is there a Dr Olivia Otavius?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKgU3FqjUCc
>"It's the quenchiest!"
>>96365640Wait... is that...A vore based counterspell?
>>96366474It is a vore based counterspell.
List exactly 15 reasons why green shouldn't have regular staple vore themed creature-spell counterspells in its pie.
>>96366530>List exactly 15 reasons why green shouldn't have regular staple vore themed creature-spell counterspells in its pie.It should have vore-based on-board removal instead.
>>96366530You need first to list the reasons it should.
Universes Within spoilers when?
>>96366646>No set until 2026November as the bare minimum
>>96366570Stronk doms eat the subby weak.Ambush predators.
>>96365209I have 4 Seeker of the Way in my deck
Is magic online down?
>>96366227most MTGA general posts are made by a mentally ill brazilian favela teenager who is obsessed with transsexuals and insists on only playing Alchemy.he is also the Premodern spammer in these threads lol
>>96366720
>>96366720>Premodern Spammer is also an Alchemy enthusiastIt checks out.
reprint him to fix modern from the frog menace>>96366710yes
>>96365774why not?
I genuinely don't understand why a cabbage merchant, of all things, is making some people butthurt. Is there some weird logic I'm missing that I'd need to have schizophrenia to understand?
>>96366983they probably didn't watch the show and don't know how iconic the cabbage merchant was.
>>96367066But even if you didn't, what's so offensive about a guy selling cabbage?
>>96366769Call him a Brazilian Nepo baby if you're ready for a melty
>>96366720as long as he doesn't use a trip or spam about alchemy in this thread. He makes /mtgag/ completely unusable.
>>96366646There's a First Look for Lorwyn sometime next month. Forget the exact date. Mid-late September I think.
>>96366653>>96367306No I mean the Spider-Man set on Arena and MTGO.
>>96367309Oh, I have no idea. Probably the week before Spider-Man releases when previews are done.
This might be me overthinking things, but do you think Slivers might be making a return?After all, in just a few months, we've had:-New Sliver support- A reprint of Overlord- A new Secret Lair that has LegionAgain, I could be overthinking; but the thought is still there
>>96367367I think they just wanted to tease Slivers with EOE as a potential thing to explore whenever they return to the Edge. They've very clearly set up the Edge as a whole 'space to play in' for sci-fi and sci-fi-related stuff and Slivers absolutely slot neatly into that.
>>96367367>-New Sliver supportI'm pretty sure Thrumming Hivepool is just an anchor for people that want to exploit a tribe via Lorwyn's changelings. I guess theoretically it's possible they'll come back either in the distant future or during the "multiplanar event" happening in 2026, but far for likely. Slivers aren't a particularly beloved tribe (most people hate the powerlevel), so they probably don't want to push it outside of commander.>- A reprint of Overlord>- A new Secret Lair that has LegionShit like that is only for the sake of commander, trust me.
>>96367789>actually, we don't want attractive looking characters on our cards, we want ugly hags
>>96367789What they did to my lorwyn? Is some sort of gay paradise now?
>>96367789Cute boy, how many EYEBLIGHTS has he been fucked by?
>>96367810shadowverse general is two blocks down
>>96367789This is just every Evyn Fong piece ever. It's kinda hard to judge how 'pretty' Lorwyn will be by the art of the person who draws everybody as normal-ass people.
>>96367789If they dare to ruin Lorwyn i swear to motherfucking god…
>>96367810It's about style you coomerbrain. Lorwyn elves were always unique and slightly "off", not generic humans.
>>96367789>Lorwyn Eclipsed>Return to the Land of Light and ShadowBeing serious though, I wonder how they've designed the set mechanically. The set name and subtitle suggest they're gonna try to include elements of both Lorwyn and Shadowmoor. Are they gonna try to shove all the major tribes into hybrid colors (or even shard colors) while also blending colors based on species and class that synergize based on shared creature types? Would be kinda crappy if they taint the creature type prejudice even more than what they did back during Magic Origins (or whenever they rewrote Nissa's history). Are Kithkin gonna become black/white like the Drannith?
>>96367810>i want to see attractive females>more faggy twinks you say? coming right up again!
>>96367998Shadowmoor introduced many creature types that didn't exist in Lorwyn. If the set is going to have tribal support, it is going to feel more like Lorwyn. I think everybody expects a tribal set, right?
>>96367998what if the merging of lorwyn and shadowmoor fucked with everyone and the end result is monocolor tribes
>>96367951I will likely liquidate my MTGO account, if they fuck it up. It's old, I've had it since the interface had playing tables.
>>96364396>pick a few good old cards that counter cauldron vivi>announce that they are now legal in standard>don't reprint them though
>>96367998re-reintroduction of day/night mechanic, obviously
>>96368292You aren't doing shit.
>>96364396I'd just ban standard.There. One change.
>>96364396Ban amerimutts from playing any format that isn't standard, EDH, pioneer or modern.Make alt art for non-english cards featuring exclusively Aryans and Asians
If they fucked up Elves and Kithkin that bad, I can't wait to see how fucked the Goblins of lorwyn are going to be.
Where are my Spider-Man spoilers?
>>96369022I think you meant Universes Within spoilers.
>>96369022in the copyright purgatory
>>96365774It's a meme from the showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UByhxXvmX8o
>40% IZZET cancer>only control deck that's being played is the most boring color combo for control>Only other decks played more than 5% are some jank Dimir deck and whatever random aggro deck is the deck of the week
>>96369102>It's a meme from the showiT's A mEmE FrOm ThE sHoW
>>96369143Who are you quoting?
>>96369102People who don’t get what’s the problem with Cabbage, there you have the answer.We don’t need stupid meme cards into this game like instant ramen, guy in a chair or this shit.
>>96369138Is this what Mark and his puppets call a FLOURISHING formats?And a friendly reminder this was AFTER seven bans and a whole neglect for Modern, Pioneer and Legacy for example.
What deck makes you do this?
>>96369166>We don’t need stupid meme cards into this game like instant ramen, guy in a chair or this shit.Ah, but you seeWotC doesn't care what this game needs.WotC doesn't care what the players want.WotC doesn't care what the players demand.WotC cares what money people who don't play the game have.
>>96369215I guess that’s the main problem here
>>96369211Arclight Phoenix. That list is famously MTG's reenactment of a bowel movement.
>>96369211Vivi Cauldron.
>>96369178>Seven bans>Take away some aggro tools>Cripple the only viable combo and control tools>Rotate the only boardwipe that worked>Hmm why did aggro get better?
>>96369138So if i play Standard i must play Aggro (Not combo, not control) or eat a huge shit? Jesus leave me with my Hidden Strings.
>>96369274>only viable control and combo tools>turn 4 instawin with no downside>a burn spell that also handrips and can be looped>single best bounce spell ever printed since vapor snag>"every single card you play (including this one) is a guaranteed 2-for-1 forever"come the fuck on niggavivi fucking sucks we all agree but you don't have to shill fucking esper bounce and beanstalk (banned in modern btw) to say that
>>96369463Esper bounce was a fair deck. maybe not fun to play against but at least fair and I will discuss this against any of you faggot aggrotards.
>>96369166As a full creature I think it's fineIf it was an instant named 'My Cabbages!!!!' then maybe you'd have a point
>>96369463Izzet Prowess -> Izzet CauldronEsper Bounce -> DeadOmniscience -> DeadYeah okay nigga keep going off on how these archetypes survived though.
>>96367117I dont think they are offended by what he is, but by the fact that he's a 'nobody' that got a card and people who understand why hes important liked that and keep mentioning it.
>>96369166Why are you acting like there haven't been tons of stupid meme cards far before UB was even a thought?
My standard loving friends, come to arena best-of-one, a bunch of good and fun decks that normally just lose to sideboards become viable, and izzet isn't even that strong here.
>>96369395>i must play AggroEven worse. You must play an Izzet Jank deck
>>96369679>arena best-of-oneNot MTG.
>>96370123>Not MTGok dude, enjoy your "oops all vivi" real mtg while I play this apparently inferior version that's actually fun
>>96367789He looks like he fucks human men.
>>96370123>>96370188The nicest part is that standard bo1 is in arena while cummander and premodern arent. Guess whats 'real MTG'?
There's actually no such thing as "real Magic">Uh I play Black Lotus into Mox Ruby Channel Fireball gg go next?
comprehensive list of things aren't MTG>digital formats where "alchemy" cards are legalthank you for your attention to this matter
>>96369102>>96369143>>96369166that's not a meme, that's just a recurring joke
>>96370377don't explain shit to zoom zooms
>>96370359>Alchemy Not real>Bo1Not real>Timeless/HistoricNot realIt checks out if you ask me.
>>96369679>My standard loving friendswho?
There are a few specific cards I want but I'm worried about getting scammed with fake cards...is there any reliable place to buy cards?
>>96370383>implying avatar isn't zoomer shit
>>96363793>fearsThat the elf in that image is supposed to be a female elf and not a male elf.
>>96370377you just defined a meme.....
>>96370490TGC Player, Ebay sellers with high ratings.
SIX FUCKING GANDALFSFIVE FUCKING AANGSONE BILLION SPIDERMEN
>>96370533LEGENDARY COMMONSPIDER-MAN WASN'T SHOWING UP ENOUGH
>>96370533Correction: four Aangs so far, but there's five Kataras so you'd assume there'd be just as many Aangs if not more.
I NEED PHOTOS OF SPIDER-MAN. WHEN I OPEN THIS BOOSTER PACK I EXPECT TO SEE SPIDER-MAN.
>>96367998Maybe Monocolor. A minor tribe theme for monocolor while everything else is tribes working together. The W/U draft archetype would be Kithkin/merfolk.The monocolor archetypes would beWhite: KithkinBlue: MerfolkBlack: FaerieRed: GoblinGreen: Elf
>>96370591
>>96369039This bit was never funny and it's not a bit that becomes funny by repetition.
>>96370547Four Aangs in the main set, and some more in TLE. Three Kataras in the main set.
>>96370662SEVEN FUCKING AANGSAND THEY'RE ALL SHITE
>>96370662How many Sokkas?
>>96370526a meme is a recurring idea that spreads throughout a general population. the cabbage merchant getting his cabbages ruined is a repeating joke made by a closed group of writers, by design.
>>96370533Not a bad thing.
Stop trying to justify your shit card UBslop enjoyers is shit and the laugh stock of an already horrible set. We will keep laughing at it until Avatar is released and possibly after that.
>>96370281>in arena You're stuck with the fake nu-MTG formats there. >no cummanderWhat is Brawl?>no PremodernPremodern is actually real MTG unlike anything in Arena. It's pretty much what MTG was prior to Mirrodin.
>>96370827Furthermore, looking in to it deeper:All of the episodes where the Cabbage Merchant appears were either written or story edited by the same guy, except for one.
>>96370917>You're stuck with the fake nu-MTG formats there.having access to bo1 is what makes me enjoy it. sidedeck is fun in tournaments, but thats all. and its free. thats probably the biggest part of it. Im coming back to paper MTG and CBA to play anything but pauper, seem like commander ruined the games already bad product line and secondary market.
zamn
>standardAt least play some fun whacky format like Timeless
>>96370926The cabbage merchant is a hard working and respected person in this house and I will accept nothing different
I'M LIKE A STEPPING RAZOR DON'T YOU WATCH MY SIDES I'M DANGEROUShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WZY1cEecbI
>>96371148I don't listen to hip-hop
>>96371109Did you think my post was being negative towards the cabbage merchant
>>96371152So I said, downpressor manWhere you gonna run to?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq-X1x0OkQw
>>96371084Enlarge those milkers
>>96370821Presumably also three in the main set and I dunno how many in TLE.
>>96364069Real talk, a Yu-Gi-Oh! UB would be a dream come true for me, but I fear that Konami would never let it happen. What are your guy's thoughts?
>>96371384>UB A huge shit. There is no UB for me that would change that
>>96371384Anyone who praises or tolerates UB of any kind should be beheaded.
>>96371235
>>96371084It appears to be that reanimating sapients is prohibited on Arcavios.
I’m kind of a magic boomer but I like UB. It’s funny to me how mad people get about it, as if Magic’s story was ever good
>>96363793I almost want Lorwyn to just not come back. Let me enjoy what already was, and enjoy the dream of what could be.
>>96366769Alchemy is actually a pretty good format. It pains me to say this but it is the best balanced 60 card format other than pauper and has a lot of unique and cool cards. It feels like a “good” standard season is that makes sense. What’s annoying is many of the cards are cool but clearly did not need to be alchemy, they just put them there because they hate fun
>>96369544they shouldn't have survived. omniscience can go fuck itself, izzet prowess also deserving to eat shit doesn't mean it wasn't cancerous
>>96371494I do not think Liliana has ever cared about what is legal.
>>96364396>ban Cauldron and/or Vivi. Not smart enough to know which should go.>focus on the LGS since most will never participate in higher-level events>provide exclusive rarities of good cards in low volume>cards don't even have to be for Standard, but do have to be desired for monetary worth>stores receive one 1st place promo & four Top 4 promos for each week of the month>this ensures low volume of cards to keep the price at a decent valueThings like the full art Urza's Saga and Dauthi Voidwalker? Those are peak.I personally think Standard is doomed as are all other 60 card formats, but I'm still here for the ride. Happy to play Legacy and Vintage when I can, but settling for Standard at locals since the only other format played is Commander. The melancholy is palpable.
>>96371544>When ~ enters, discard up to two cards, then draw that many cards.The degree to which WotC's total inability to think of new ideas is oversaturating formats with extreme redundancy, resulting in stagnation and hyper-optimization, is truly pathetic.As if fucking Standard needed MORE ur looters. Fuck me at least they managed to accidentally blunder this into strictly Artifact synergy instead of general Noncreature.
>>96371800It fits for Sokka. He's the ideas guy.
>>96364396Make the game about LGS culture.Develop a line of long-lasting, natural energy drinks with anime waifu marketing to be sold at game stores to keep gamers going on those long prerelease marathons.Find more than just prize pack support for LGSs. Pins, badges, just some cheap mass producable shit that gives players bragging rights / that they can keep to prove their record of wins.Also, if you win a Pro Tour or other major tournament, you can name your LGS and that LGS gets a big promotional product line unique to them. Basically, turn the top-level pro scene into LGS-based sports teams so the little folk have skin in the game.End Secret Lair and bring back LGS-exclusive "From the Vault" type products. Basically just SL, but only LGSs can requisition them so you actually have to go through a store to get the ugly ass piss-filter alters.That would be the one change if I was going hard mode. On top of that, massively decrease product output. Three sets + a Core Set every year. Every Core Set is basically identical to the last one, just staple cards at a low pack price, to give designers a 3 month open buffer period for preproduction of the next year's block. Oh, also, yes, return to blocks and bring back paper novels.
>>96371831>last line of textJust got into the Sorcery tcg and am a personal huge fan of one set a year. It gives players a year to enjoy the art, mechanics, design, and homebrews of literally everything the set has to offer.Was actually blown away Chris Cox knocked my door down, held a gun to my head, and told me to stop thinking about the Spider-Man set that isn't even out yet and to start getting hype for Avatar spoilers. Literally the Red Letter Media webbum of don't think just consoom.
https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/166/jaya-ballard-task-mageFor my 3/4c D&T deck should I get TSP foil, FSP promo or F&L
>>96371384>but I fear that Konami would never let it happeneven the people who work on YGO cant stand it anymore, but Konami wont let it die, ever.
>>96372310>Game literally releases peak sovl>"T-They can't stand it!"Yeah maybe if it was WotC they would hate releasing sovl.
>>96372508time after time they get a new archetype and its always either 1 card combo into full undisruptable board (mixed with some utterly broken staple link monster) or an engine that you simply slap a few cards into your regular deck and now you have two full line combos in case one gets disrupted.
>>96372559>He says in response to the one archetype that notoriously requires you to commit your full deck to it while having no one-card combos AND was still extremely resilient despite all that
How can one fucking plane be THIS broken this consistently? It has to be intentional, right?
>>96372840>(FIRE
>>96372840The first vist was powerful because players complained about weak cards so they boosted standard's power.The second time was because players complained enchantments weren't as powerful as artifacts.
>>96371468too much mana...........*pop*
It's time to go 2-3 in Modern with Boros Burn again, wish me luck!
>>96372840wait, is Embercleave really that powerful?
Embercleave...Dreadhorde Invasion...that was the Standard format....
>>96373874yes
Do you think EoE sold well enough that they'll focus on actual mtg settings for a while?
>>96373901That depends less on EoE and more on how well Spider-Man and AtLA are going to sell.
>>96373874In Standard, yes. Not so much in other formats, but still a nice equipment to have if you can run it.
>>96373901It's selling a lot less than Tarkir.
>>96369138they'll ban the cauldron in november, vivi will stay surely
>>96373990>Free mana>Grows with each cantrip>Pings faceHaha i'm sure this will not lead to any fucking problem! Vivi is a totally fair card!!
>>96374067I just doubt they'll ban a poster child of their best selling set.
>>96374067He's very strong but not banworthy on his own. Cauldron goes bonkers with a ham sandwich.
>>96373874>>96373922Embercleave is really good in commander still, if your commander can hit someone in the face for 7+ damage already, it basically allows you to hit anyone on the board once, then on a later turn you just kill them by flashing it in on your commander.It's a stupid good card.
>>96373874It was the Monstrous Rage of its day.
>>96372840Notice how none of those are white cards
white is the support colour
>>96374713Support THIS>*unzips dick*
*exiles you*
*waves at you*
*gives you a farm tool*
*demands additional payment*
Standard is returning to the equilibrium state reached backed when Domain decks were casting a boardwipe with beanstalk every turn and the game only ended because one player milled out. And some ran a singleton imodane's recruiter just so their herd migration could get under the opponents sunfallWell here we are againMarang river regent was cast 30+ times this game. All we did is counter each others removal and cast uncounterable dragons to bounce the opponents dragon. That's not the first time I've been in this same stalemate, regent back and forth is the new "I sweep your board you sweep mine"
*swoops down taking your shit and hold it ransom*
What should happen for this faggots to ban Cutter from Pioneer?
*enforces the law*
>>96374836Gotta bring the backup plan for situations like this
>>96374918Shame omni combos took over because mana loops like virtue of courage could power out that sweet sweet outrageous robbery x=40
Why shitters hate stax so much?
>>96374949No no no, you got it wrong. Shitters like stax so much. But why?
Apologize.
>>96375009?????
>>96374949but its always the (bad) combofags that whine?stompy doesnt care and any comboer worth their salt know when to hit the brakes and wait
>>96375014its a great budget tutor, people are sleeping on it
>>96375116Is shit anon.You are only allowed to play Aggro nowadays and that shit ship does nothing
>>96375009I've seen it in action and I fear it
>>96375138not OP, but people used to play this one in Standard
>>96375147yeah and people used to play fucking delver of secrets in standard but didn't when reprinted thanks to powercreep. get on with the program gramps
If you had a time machine, how would you save mtg from the current timeline? What's the number one event whose ripple effects ended up ruining the the game?
>>96375165I'd go back in time to kill adol- I mean sheldon from ever inventing commander
>>96375165Prevent Hasbro from acquiring WOTC.
>>96375164People didn't play delver in standard this time around because the support for it wasn't there. It's the opposite of powercreep, the instants and sorceries back then were better.
>>96375165Kill Mark RosewaterBurn all “The Walking Dead” cardsBomb the acquisition of WotC by HasbriStop FIRE designDestroy CummanderDone Magic saved.
>>96375138>You are only allowed to play Aggro nowadaysbut maro told me standar is flourishing...
https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/792519114102063104/reading-your-various-responses-about-the-volume-of?source=share>So yeah UB has been positive to the game (that means our pocket) so UB haters are just anti-science chuds mkay
>>96375165Convince Garfield to cut Blue from the game.
>>96375165Convince Garfield to cut Red from the game.
>>96374481It turns Gisela into a player deleter.Going from 10 commander to 24 commander midcombat is pretty nasty, especially if they thought they were safe with some flying chump blocker.
>>96375164Delver of Secrets needs support to be a truly monstrous card. It's like the difference between standard and eternal Tarmogoyf.One is a 0/1 that grows with the progression of the game. One is a 5/6 immediately on turn 2 minimum.
>>96375165delete throne of eldraine
>>96375232AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTOP LYING NOSEWATER YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOOOOT
>>96375164>>96375266I miss the days where a 3/2 evasion for 1 mana feel brokenafter heartfire hero, sazh's chocobo, cecil, pixie? feels like a joke. Hell, I'd rather have Hired Claw and stuff a deck full of threats you need to answer every fucking turn or loseeven heartfire decks at least needed the monstrous rage / manifold mouse package to enable themnow red is just>huhu t1 edge rover t2 wickerfolk attack for 5 t3 screaming nemesis attack for 8 t4 unload a bunch of burn spells
>>96364347They still get their show and tell card, although it's still a good choice.
>loses>starts bitching in chat while i combo off>gets called a retard for it>bitches some more about muh report>slowplays with the kill on the stack>ragequits on 1-1real subhuman hours
>>96374949I love stax
>>96375381
>>96375381sounds like you are the salty nigger that has to come here and complain
>No we can't make good lifegain, removal, or vigilance creatures it will ruin Limited and make Arena games take too long!!!>wtf why is white bad?Inside the mind of Mark.
>no more spiderman or avatar spoilers it's quiet...too quiet
>>96375526SECRET LAIR ALERT
*is soul warden in your path*
What format is left to play?no fuck you brazil premodern is boring as fuck
Where's the Brazil coming from, and how is that relevant.
>>96375534vs aggro decks a soul warden is often 4+ free life and triggers on life-matters creaturesagainst non-aggro decks, lifegain doesn't do fucking shit
lifegain would be a thing but screaming nemeses exist for some fucking reason
>>96371847Gothic is going to be lit. I really hope it takes off even more
>>96375643It's a top ranked deck in best of one on arena and is tier 2 in regular standard. It just can't compete with something like Vivi Cauldron
>>96375643t0 leylinet1 sanctifiert2 warp the bitch, hawk, whoops I'm at 28 life attack for 3 and have a 3/3 flying lifelink XDDDD
Are there other ways to reduce pip mana?
>>96375723yes and standard legal
>>96375723HIM
My best performing standard deck is just lifelink fliers, leyline and split up.split up is just a 1 sided boardwipe in every gamebats outrace everything when you're gaining life
>>96375621It's from one article posted on reddit.
Premodern is for browns only and even the shills (brown people too) know this
>>96376047is there some kind of a color skin gatekeeping in place?
>>96376047>implying they can afford premodern
>>96374760Didn’t stop monstrous rage or cutter>>96374797Waves back since it didn’t stop anything >>96374816TALL ASK, lmao>>96374831Never stopped Goldspan/Epiphany>>96374843Didn’t stop shit, JOTC even denied it Flash to the world champion>>96374875Got Flood Maw’d
Could this work for standard
>>96376167No.
>>96376189but CARD ADVANTAGE
>>96376207No.
>>96376127>No FlashUnironically how does Flash meaningfully improve it? There's no window you have priority between a tutor/draw resolving and turn player being able to cast it in main.The whole reason black doesn't get instant speed handrips is specifically to avoid this ambiguity regarding holding priority.
>>96376218If you draw more cards than your opponent you win the gameFact
started playing on mtgo this year and so far i've been ignoring rental services because of the cost of the higher tiers, but i subbed to manatraders base ($15/month, 150 tix limit) and this shit is actually great if you can sift through league results to find competitive lists for 150 tixsince yesterday i've played modern belcher, jund reanimator, ruby storm, mono white control, mono black midrange and neobrand, i've also found a 146 tix list for legacy oops all spells loli can't play boros energy, zoo, frog decks, prowess and decks that have retarded prices on mtgo (consign, bauble, etc) but whatever, if i run out of modern stuff to play i'll just try pauper or some other format
Is there any chance they add some new dragons to lorwyn? like one that isn't fucking red
I've been told the next big UB will be Dune
>>96376399This was the only dragon in Lorwyn.
>>96376402would unironically be the 2nd best selling set after FIN
>>96376247Maybe in the pre FIRE. Now a days you win by reducing your oppo life to 0 and the faster the better so if you deck can’t deliver or deal with a killer turn 3 then your deck is dogshit.
>>96376366>i've also found a 146 tix list for legacy oops all spells lolthat's my list, don't play that, I went 1-4 twice since that 5-0, waaaaay too many dimir tempo players that keep 7 card hands full of interactionI've shifted to modern with boros belcher, went 2-3 yesterday but could've easily been a 4-1 with better luck on a few important turns, when I 5-0 with it, I'll recommend the list I'm playing, but the play patterns are very similar to oops and queue times are quicker since there are twice as many people playing modern leagues compared to legacy
Wasn't Lorwyn full of -1/-1 counters too? I'm hoping for some of that.
>>96376402>DuneUuuuughI like Dune but i can’t deal with this shit anymore.
>>96376489-1/-1 counters are a 7 on MaRo's storm scale so don't hold your breath
>>96376229Yes you do. Each player has a priority window at the end of draw step before main phase 1.
>>96376532why the fuck. what's wrong with that jew. rethorical questions. there are way worse and nicher mechanics on the list than fucking minus counters
>>96376486>belcherthis is what i've been playing: https://www.manatraders.com/webshop/deck/8624214
>>96376577They can’t print good interaction, are really scared of - counters and can’t deal with combo being good but they don’t have problems printing IN A ROW Mice package, Nemesis, Cutter and Vivi one after another.
>>96376657this game is turning more and more in to solitaire. just like how other card games are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCeWKcWMEQMnew aids just dropped
>>96376402How many Duncan Idahos will be in the set?
>>96376718It will be 'the deck can have any number of cards' type of a deal.
>>96376718Duncan Idaho {WB}Legendary Creature - Human SoldierWhen Duncan Idaho dies, return him to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep.3/2
>>96376565Untap, draw step, and cleanup do not have open priority unless a trigger occurs there.
>>96376613I know, that's blue belcher, it's trying to be more reactive, what I'm playing is similar to thishttps://mtgtop8.com/event?e=70422&d=733606&f=MOyou can win on turn 3 very often and orim's chant is the perfect answer to a hand full of consign to memory which is what everybody brings against ruby
>>96376743could see it. Maybe he returns tapped then has (2W): untap Duncan Idaho
>>96363737It's UP
>WotC makes a digital client>It's so awful it revitalizes paper>Konami makes a digital client>It's so good it kills paper
>>96376751504.2 nigger. You don't get priority befor you draw for turn, but you get one after. I played modern death and taxes and one of my main lines of play was vialing in a tidehollow sculler during my opponent's draw step.
>>96376532But yet every fucking color gets to steal White’s Basri Solidarity effect of +1+1 counters on all your creatures now. The color pie(for nonwhite colors) doesn’t matter anymore.
>>96376402Place your bets /mtg/. What will be the biggest decks in Dune standard?Ornithopters matterBene Gesserrit wizardsGrixis scytalePaul voltron
>>96377043sandwurm ramp
>>96373874It was so good that everyone called it gendercleave and you would be accused of being a tranny for running it
>>96376894i aint watching 25 minutes for something that can be sum up on a sentence
>>96377043Fremen jihad, obviously.
>>96376978it's not really fair to compare the two since the vast majority of arena players are playing standard.exe while master duel is effectively legacy + a bunch of cool formats
premodern is so comfy, bros
>>96374624we get it, white is the weakest colour.
>>96376402If they make "alt cards" using screencaps from the movie i will forever mald we never got a Vigo Aragorn alt art
>>96375631>>96375534screaming nemesis and a bunch of cards block lifegain entirely
>>96376888>>96376743Duncan Idaho {WB}Legendary Creature - Human SoldierWhen Duncan Idaho dies, return him to the battlefield tapped at the beginning of your next end step.3/2There now he can't block every turn
>>96376978you get like 50 packs a month for free in master duel ez, you can also earn gems by playing and there isn't a 15 win limit, its really just more popular since its alot cheaper, mtg arena is insanely expensive,all in all, arena is better sorely because there is best of 3 and no best of 3 in masterduel.
>>96376978You can consider Magic Arena tm a real Magic client when it doesn’t have not even half of the real formats of Magic and let’s not forget it even has 3 made up shit digital trash only formats that doesn’t exist out of there.You can’t even call that “digital client”
>>96377412And there's no way to tell you're playing against humans or botsthe most sterile, uninteractive version of the game with zero stakesyou're free to leave any game at any time
>>96377372all screencap alt arts will be from David Lynch's Dunealso, there will be a Baron Harkonnen that looks like Orson Welles to represent Jodorowsky's Dune
Arena is real magic
>>96376577Anon is retarded, they literally had -1/-1 counter cards in Duskmourn.
>>96377539deck? weapons manufacturing seems fun
>>96377539I like it better than master duel or pokemon pocket purely because they actually have best of 3, literally the only client with a decent best of 3 case, and thats saying alot since even mtg arena has the shitty blank out bugg that blocks half of your side deck, some how still better than master duel in that stupid b01 trash
>>96373901On Arena it was more popular than Tarkir but less popular than Final Fantasy.
>>96376577R&D doesn't like it since it's harder to make a good draft format.
what's more likely:- card of ty lee's beach tits- card of sokka getting suki pussy
>>96378357>less popular than Final FantasyI think they said literally every other set was less popular than FF.
New thread>>96378523>>96378523>>96378523
I came here just to laugh at you mongs.
