Arachnophobia edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96378523>TQWhat is the scariest magic card?
>>96394574>TQPhyrexian Unlife is stuck in my mind.
tq
>>96394614
>>96394614>>96394625
last one
>>96394574Kind of garbage common but I really like the art here.
>>96394677Overall, I think that Steven Belledin should draw more of this kind of images. Sadly, MTG is nowadays pretty toothless (heh) and is moving towards becoming just a vehicle for selling more UB garbage.
>>96394574A small detail that's bothering me and I still have no answer to this day is why WotC decided to make the bottom of the cards black. I think they hade more personality when the entire frame was colored and not just the top and sides.Also tq
Never forget what they took from you
What companions do you want /mtg/?Sliver companionSpell companionHumans companionDredge companion
>>96394574>TQ
>>96394574Good >TQs so far.
>>96394596So if we had even the slightlest hope for Lorwyn to be good we can now 100% confirm this will be a trash?
So the blue is waterbending, green is earthbending, red is firebending and white is airbending.What is black?
>>96394934Eldrazi companion - all creature cards in your deck are Eldrazi. Allows you to touch the exile zone somehow.
>>96395149>So the blue is waterbendingIt is not so simple.
>>96394934Artifact companion something like every card in your deck must be colorless or artifact and i want it to make pinnacle available at every format for example.
>>96395164>o-ring, but rare to inflate price
>Firebend>AirbendAre you ready for this two mechanics to completely destroy several formats?
>>96395242Lets say we get an ephemerate downgrade for standard with {W}: airbend target nonland permanent you controlso my deck would instantly become;>4 llanowar elves>4 molt tender>4 manifest dread>4 growing dread>4 splash portal>4 airbend>4 quantum riddler>4 anti-causal vestigehmmm should fit ~8 more big fat payoffs like knights of the round, valgavoth, adamantoise, vaultborn tyrant, maybe bahamut
>>96395235And flash. And a built in means to sac it if, for some enigmatic reason, you want the thing to come back. Perhaps you exiled a permanent of your own to save it from a more dire removal.
>>96395242>free mana ON ATTACK >ON REDwhy? why this fuckers can't design even if their lifes depend of it? why they just can't learn from their past mistakes?
>>96395324Wonky free mana is a red thing. They're trying to see if limiting it only to the combat phase and therefore only really enabling burn spells/combat tricks will make more sense than their clumsier attempts like Seething Song.
>>96395333And even at instant speed, so no Lava Spike and variants.
>tq
almost none of my lgs are doing any limited events, its nothing edh slop everytime its magic day
Wut pet is this? Obviously its amonkhet themed, but I don't remember them ever doing anything for that.
>>96395444Nobody plays paper outside EDH now. Standard and draft are dead due to arena, and modern killed itself by becoming modern horizons block constructed.
>>96395154>when ~ enters exile all graveyards.>you may cast colorless cards you own from exile by exiling a colorless card from your hand in addition to its other costs.Personally I think>all cards in your deck are colorlesswould be a better condition
>>96395242You're completely ass at the game if you think firebending will do anything, outside of maybe one or two few pushed cards.
>>96395476Arena general should know, but Aetherdrift passed through Amonkhet, so it could be from that set.
>mtg design lead is named Chris MoneyI wonder what is his greatest inspiration for card design.
>>96395127It’s going to be lawdy Dem Rangz 2.0
>>96394574>What is the scariest magic card?There are too many contenders in my mind but this is my current favorite.
I can't understand why they didn't ban Soul Cauldron during the huge ban wave. It's such an insane decision
what can kill/stop commander from getting all the focus?
>>96396458Nothing.
>>96394934Suspend companionDeathtouch companionPhasing companionAnte companionHire me Mark, please
>>96396458If, somehow, the zeitgeist changes from casual to competitive.
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71876&f=PREM45 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71875&f=PREM40 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71540&f=PREM81 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71249&f=PREM107 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71247&f=PREM60 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71452&f=PREM50 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM177 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM66 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM84 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM279 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM92 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=67416&f=PREM52 playersEmbrace tradition.Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home...
Why do the paid JotC shills split threads anytime the OP is critical of their game design mistakes? >>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430Real thread here
>>96396593Stop shilling your garbage static format. You are extremely annoying and retarded, none of us will ever play this retarded shit
>tfw went 5-0 in a pioneer challenge recently and been reflecting on my lifeThis game has made me into a retard. Magic is literally the only thing I'm good at. I can't draw, I can't speak another language, my social skills are shit, I'm rusty as fuck with social science stuff. I saw an effortpost on another board (by a chick, no less) just now and thought to myself "god, I'm retarded". All I think about now is magic. Every fucking minute of my day is spent thinking about sideboard slots.
>>96396598Stop shilling your garbage static thread. You are extremely annoying and retarded, none of us will ever post in this retarded shit
>>96396702>5-0 in a pioneer challengeyou mean a pioneer league? challenges are 32 player events
>>96396760>static thread>a /mtg/ general not at bump lock created before your threadpick one, paid shill
>>96396702Congrats anon, you are a fucking loser but you will always have... Magic :^)
>>96395321Yeah they've been purposefully doing this. Also making it overpriced as a way to save stuff, 5 mana in each caseStandard could really use some 1 mana cloudshift
MOREATLALEAKS
>>96397446>Standard could really use some 1 mana cloudshiftProbably not going to happen, with all the warp creatures around.
>>96397483What do you mean, "more"? We haven't had any leaks to start with.
>>963975131 is more than 0
We're finally going to see the UW spiderman digital cards on sept 8th.
>>96397483I NEED TO SEE THE WHOLE SPIDER-MAN!I NEED TO SEE HOW MANY CARDS WOULD I IGNORE!!!
How does this look?No fatties that get stuck in hand dead, only playable cards16 'hits' for manifest dread, so 47% chance to hit, another 56% if you include molt tender, though its a 44% chance to only hit lands/spellst1 molt tender t2 quantum riddler + splash portal would be the most reliable linecould run llanowar elves but not sure what I'd cutwith 7 direct removal + 3 marangs to bounce it could stymie some boards
Here me out, the Bible Universes BeyondMoses 3U: Activated ability 4U: Part the waters Tap, return half of target player's lands to owner's handJoshua 1WR: Exert, Stop the sun: After this combat phase there is an additional combat phaseGod 5R 7/7 Deal 20 damage to all creatures
When I first started Magic I used to be obsessed with Creature tribals, and making tribal themed decks. I used to think Lord creatures with "Give your tribe +1/+1 (and maybe an ability)" used to be the greatest shit ever. I feel sad that such a style of deck (with tribals and lords) is completely unplayable these days.
>>96397581Not before the Senfield UB.
>>96397581>wrath of god reprint that costs $179 on tcg in 2 years
>>96397596ITS KINDRED
>>96397637you messed up the joke
>This awful meta until NovemberJustify this. Give any valid reason for this.
>>96397596most of them were unplayable even back then
>>96397606>tfw this isn't the same person that mentioned UB Seinfeld last thread because that person is meShalom
>>96397731>LINE MUST GO UPt. Hasbro Corp
How much does getting started in paper MTG cost in the current year? And how long should I expect to get my ass beat every game if I've never played Magic in my life (but have experience with other TCGs)?
>>96397921depends on the format but you can get a vague idea of deck prices on goldfish https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper>And how long should I expect to get my ass beat every game if I've never played Magic in my lifequite awhile
>>96397921If your LGS is not full of autists, and you want to play for fun, not much. Proxy all the shit.
Maro's teaser for Spider-Man. https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/792879612208267264/maros-spider-man-teaserNew things:> a new artifact Food> “mind swap” as flavor words> a new card with “Rocket-Powered” in its name> some new counters – ingenuity and film> a five-color Spider-Man> a reanimation spell that can reanimate a number of creatures never used before> a card that keeps the “legend rule” from applying to Spiders> a card that lets you exchange life with another player>a character, other than Miles, from the Ultimate universe>a famous Spider-Man meme is made into a cardRules text:>“Exile those tokens when Mysterio leaves the battlefield.”>“choose a card type other than creature.”>“Look at the top nine cards of target opponent’s library,”>“You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card in addition to paying its other costs.”>“Whenever a creature you control with menace attacks, create a Treasure token.” (We know this one it's Jameson)>“You don’t lose unspent red mana as steps and phases end.”>“If you do, draw X cards, then you may put a permanent card with mana value X or less from your hand onto the battlefield.”>“loses all abilities and becomes a green Lizard”>“Until next turn, he becomes a land and gains “T: Add {U}.”>“Whenever you attack with two or more Spiders,”Creature type lines:>Legendary Creature – Symbiote Spider Hero (Symbiote Spider-Man we already know this one)>Human Mercenary Hero>Human Detective Hero>Mutant Advisor>Sand Elemental Villain>Human Shapeshifter Villain>Human Warrior Villain>Vampire Scientist Villain (Morbin' time)>Insect Villain>Robot VillainAnd names:>Parker Luck>Pumpkin Bombardment>Radioactive Spider>Rent Is Due>Spider-Verse>Spiders-Man, Heroic Horde>Wall Crawl>Web of Life and Destiny>Web-Shooters>With Great Power...
Don't care. Waiting for UW.
>>96398372Guesses on the creatures are Mercenary is Luke Cage, Detective is Jessica Jones, Mutant Advisor is Madame Web, Sand is Sandman, Shapeshifter.. Chameleon? Warrior is probably Kraven, Insect Villain I'm unsure, no idea for Robot, there's a lot of villainous robots.
>>96398372*PUKES*
>>96398372>a famous Spider-Man meme is made into a card
>>96398397Yeah, almost certainly this. Probably makes a copy or something.
>>96398372>Exchange life with another playerThis sounds like cancer and>Meme made into a card>AGAIN!This is disgusting MaRo. We are tired of your shit. Get your memes and Cabagges and shove them up your ass.
>>96398372>>“You don’t lose unspent red mana as steps and phases end.”insane with firebending
>>96398415I'm actually trying to think of what that might be in Spider-Man. Electro?
>>96398372>a famous Spider-Man meme is made into a cardHuman Holocaust confirmed?
>>96398397>>96398400a reprint
>>96398391Mercenary is probably Silver Sable actually.Insect Villain is for sure Swarm.Robot Villain is either the Living Brain or a specific Spider-Slayer (probably Mk I or II with Jameson's face on a TV screen).
>>96398487I genuinely forgot Silver Sable existed, but yeah. Who'd be the Detective then? Can't think of too many detective-types associated with Spider-Man. Betty Brant maybe? Wouldn't really put her as Hero-typed though.
>TQIt's cool EoE was its own thing, but I still want more generic ayys, flying saucers, and alien abduction
>>96398520I googled "Spider-Man detective hero" and one of the top results (after Spider-Man Noir) was Wraith. It's probably her, she was that one Asian cop in the PS4/5 Spider-Man games who later became a vigilante.
>>96398565Well it'd just be Yuri Watanabe more likely, she's currently Wraith but that's not really what she's broadly known as, I think.
>>96398372>Rent Is DueProbably don't want to remind the paypigs of that.
If we got DSK 2 which points of the set will you encourage and which one would you erase??
why is this piece of shit a rare?
>>96398735why wouldn't it be?
>>96398735the only unconditional creature buffers at a lower rarity cost more. cheaper = better = rarer.
>>96394574>40 card deck, 10 card sideboard, singleton>30 card deck, 9 card sideboard, 2 card limit>15 card deck, 3 card sideboard, singletonI may have solved kitchen table magic – build microscopic decks so you spend less money
>>96398735Because it's an unconditional anthem.
>>96394997Post the one about the slut that used to attend mtg tournaments (back when we didn't know what sleeves even were) exclusively to flirt with whoever was higher on the totem pole for example big personalities or whoever was highest in rank in terms of won games at the moment and used to swap on the fly who she was flirting with...Damn this game used to be so fvckin zased...
>>96398786but it doesn't draw you a card or generate tokens
>>96398372>>“Until next turn, he becomes a land and gains “T: Add {U}.”I assume this is Hydro-Man?
>>96394574>TQThis is the most terrifying card that will ever get printed, last time white men decided they wouldn't endure or tolerate any more abuse the entire earth trembled in fear and begged for forgiveness, then the white man could only be stopped by other white men who were manipulated through lies and blackmail, for every 1 dead white man he maneged to kill 9 men in the opposing army, at the end of that fratricide the white man whispered "we fought the wrong enemy...".Which is why the white man needs several trillions of dollars spent in order to keep him starved and constantly bombarded with lies, fear and all his dear ones kept hostage.
>>96398901Probably the most likely one? Can't think who else.
Why is anyone playing Esper Pixie in standard? It's been dead since Nightmares was banned. It lost it's turn 1 and it's now too slow.
are you hyped for Spooderman?
I'm a newer player to Magic, so I don't have the hindsight of how they played.Were Slivers really that strong back then, or was it just because people back then really didn't have answers for them and never bothered to go against them again?
>>96399073Because is still a deck. You can still bounce multiple things with Kirin+Pixie, Zennith is a payoff for casting multiple things and Kaito, the main reason bounce is still a "thing" is because of that motherfucker.
>>96399107slivers are fun, that's the core of it. you have a bunch of little creatures with different abilities and the become a big scary blob
>>96399107a little of everything they can get out of hand fast and new players are bad at strategy, deck building, and threat management a good player that uses protection properly gain a small edge of off 3 or 4 slivers and become too bug to stop
>>96399126And you still lose to Vivi 63% of the time, Dimir 82% of the time. It's only good against the decks no one plays at this point.
>>96399159If you will not play a good deck because can't deal with number 1 (broken) and number 2 decks of the format then i suppose you will only play the amount of 1 deck LMAO
>>96399159>izzets only bad matchup is mono red >mono red's only good matchup is izzeti'm surprised izzet isn't 70% of the meta
>>96399159orlando will be a nightmare right? is cutter pattern again...
>>96399172>can't deal with number 1 (broken) and number 2 decks of the format then i suppose you will only play the amount of 1 deck LMAOIt can't deal with the top 5. Pixie isn't even in the top 6.
>>96399190https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#papermy data says otherwise.
>>96399190Showcase qualifier:Pixie 4 placehttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/standard-showcase-qualifier-2025-08-24#paperYou should step up your analysis.
>>96399203Bad decks still get lucky sometimes.
>>96399196>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paperThis is only based on the number of people playing it.
>>96399196>past 30 daysChange it to past 14 days or past 7 days. Not the top 6 in terms of how many people are playing it. Not the top 6 even in win rates. Just a bad deck without hopeless nightmares.
>>96398372It's like they just keep reprinting the same set over and over again. Just with different art and names.
>>96398735>strict power creep over crusade, a rare>anon wonders why it's a rare
>>96398961
>>96399295F L O U R I S H I N GLOURISHING
>>96399295IS Dimir just the "safe pick"? You can't go wrong with removal+draw, that sort of thing?
Support your local LGS- sometimes they give out promotional material since (apparently?) they can't sell them
>>96399579Yes.
>>96399599My lgs would rather burn it or cut it to pieces than to give it away for free... yes even to the local whale, they've done it before.
What do you the Avatar standard will be?My guesses:Monoblack decks of all varieties become more common because it's the one color without a set specific mechanic which means they will make the cards more powerful to compensate (white gets airbending, blue-waterbending, green-earthbending, red-firebending)Control decks with white in them get bigger because of a one mana white spell with airbend (exile, cast for 2 more) on itBlue artifacts might get bigger because they can convoke this card with an artifact
>>96399816>artifacts might be good>because>because they won't have to discard a card after playing 4 mana draw 3 if they can tap 2 artifacts?????????play that 4 mana from final fantasy instead
I just wanna know what will ruin my formats in the few months... Just unleash Spiderman trash already...
>step outside /mtg/>people actually respecting MaroWait. People actually listen to the obvious lying shill? Say it ain't so.
>>96394574I just played the free standard event in mtgo and I have to ask: is the current standard this bad? Every deck seems so brainless and on autopilot-mode, even if you manage to get some kind of advantage it still doesn't mean anything cause the opponent might top deck something like kaito or vivi and still get ahead. Is this game fuckep up beyond relief?
>>96399926ye dont play standard
Poo(au)per players, what madness are you currently playing
>>96394632Ahh chained that takes me back.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-august-25-2025Through the Omenpaths, the UW versions of Spider-Man, will be revealed on September 8.
>>96399961Arenachads just can’t stop winning… Imagine have to play Peter Porker or Aunt May meanwhile these fags will play whatever actual character WotC delivers for them.
>>96400021>have to playNo one is making you play, esl friend.
>>96399926Yes.
>>96400058Oh no obviously no one is pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to play, my slop enjoyer Fresno, what will you do when Spooderman releases broken and you have to play? There are a bunch cards already showed that will see play are you suggesting to ignore a whole fucking set?
>>96394614This is a very solid choice. I think that the Ravnica version of Macabre Waltz is pretty unnerving as well.
>>96398436Raimi posting being made real would unironically get me to recant everything bad I have said about JotC.
>>96398372>“You don’t lose unspent red mana as steps and phases end.”Firebending confirmed to be busted on release
>>96399816almost all avatar art is so much better than the shit we got in the last 10 years wtf
whens the next set coming out im already bored of eoe draft
>>96400524sept 26th
>>96400630>another month of thisit is over as the kids say
This game has become completely insufferable. Prowess is probably more broken than Storm at this point. Everything is either any creature even 1 drops kills you instantly on untap or people are playing 25 removals.
>>96396593I will play your format using kawaii proxies
>>96400797I like this.I like this a lot.Have fun in the peachball or whatever it's called tournament my dude.
Post cards that cause immediate tilt >turn 1
>>96400963
>>96396593
>>96396621>>96401203samefag
>>96396621id play it if there was a scene for it in my area
>No Halloween-themed set akin to Midnight Hunt or Duskmourn this year.Sigh...
>>96400963It was a spicy card in Uro/Thassa's Oracle Self-Mill deck. Replicate Uro or Repudiate their planeswalker activation
>>96401206Do we have to do this every time? You have extreme autism if you think that everyone that doesn't like your shitty format is the same person.
>>96394632this card used to make me rage so hard
>>96399945my chainer/nightmare deck made an eldrazi player rage quit like no ones business. >have chainer, rakdos and a stolen blightsteel out>eldrazi player gets an insane board from zhuldok/ulalek and cascades, casts all is dust>cast pic rel>change nightmare to eldrazi>exiles all of his titans and massive board
>TQ
>>96401305>muh brazil strawman
>>96397494>Probably not going to happen, with all the warp creatures around.So glad they could print a mechanic that forcibly deletes multiple possible archetypes from ever being printed into Standard for 3 full years.
>>96394574>TQI'm surprised no one posted pic related, it always stood out to me as being bizarrely terrifying.
I once again drafted while very tired and need help evaluating what to change/cut
>>96395197>Companion — Each permanent card in your starting deck is an artifact.That would be a fucking hilarious MH card, assuming no untapped artifact lands besides Darksteel Citadel ever get printed.>>96397596Technically many tribes are still playable in standard via generic lords and tribe-based lands, that is if you don't mind getting shut down by a billion 1-mana removal (Torch the Tower, Into the Flood Maw, Intimidation Tactics, Seam Rip etc.). Tried running insect tribal last Friday, and it usually took me 3-4 casts before I could stick a single mana dork for more than one turn>>96398372>Insect VillainI originally wasn't going to run any UB cards in the deck, but if they print Swarm (technically a Spider-Man villain) and it's significantly better than Swarmweaver, I might have to run him/her (depends on the version) instead. I'll still keep the delirium reanimator theme though, would be a shame to throw that away.>>96401242Technically Arena will be getting their own exclusive Halloween standard set, if you catch my drift.
>>96401242Nah anon consider we have to pamper all the casual retards of outsiders IP out there, please understand is all money that Hasbro has right to get and actual Magic players can suck a dick.
How we save constructed?
>>96401494>I might have to run him/her (depends on the version) instead.Wait, I thought that Swarm was always a he. I could see a legitimate argument for they/them pronouns though since Swarm is a collective of bees.
>>96398372>>Sand Elemental VillainInteresting that Sandman isn't a Sand Human. I guess that he doesn't really qualify as a human anymore since he's just sentient sand that sometimes takes on human form. I recall that at one point it was established that his consciousness was contained in a single grain of sand that controls the rest of the sand that it absorbs from deserts and beaches.
>>96398372Give me Peter's bull Paul.
>>96401784They made him a her in the Miles Morales rebranding (Madame Swarm).
>>96401784>>96401812Swarm is also a girl in the Iron Man and his Awesome Friends show, but it's literally made for toddlers so I wouldn't take that into account.
>>96401812She's from the Spider-Man Noir universe though.
>>96401824Wait really? Might've misremembered then. Most of my Spider-Man knowledge comes from my college roommate. He thought I would've liked Swarm since I like bugs.
>>96401830I think you misremembered because Miles was teaming up with Spider-Man Noir in that story.
>>96401835Yeah that makes sense, I mostly just remember the fact that he was involved.>Spider-Man Noir is only an uncommonGuess there's a good chance he/she/they are probably not going in the deck.
TQ
>>96399816I don't there will be a lot of airbending in white only the few Airbenders. White and blue seem to share waterbending.
>>96395290>ephemerate downgradeit only hits creatures though, a theoretical air bend for W that hits any perm is comparable in power.
>Fable is still legal in Pioneer>Annex is still legal in Pioneer>Cutter is still legal in Pioneer
I need 2 or 3 old frame, nonfoil basic plains to go in a Bomberman deck. Recommend me some
>>96401911
>>96401857We already know that airbending can be on noncreatures, so we don't have to rely on just Aang/Appa cards to get it. Also, I assume we'll be getting cards of the previous four avatars, so Yengchen will probably have it too.
>>96398372>people unironically want fucking memes on their cards
>>96401922your opinions and tastes are not universal
>>96397581I'm fine with this as long as they type Jesus as a Human God and not a Demigod
>>96394625This man used to make Hallmark greeting cards.
>>96401937but theirs are. otherwise they'd be putting guns on cards
>>96401808>Paul>PauperIt was right in front of us all this time...
>>96401808I'm glad that Paul got NTR'd by Venom.
*spikes*
>>96402204Second sunrise unban?!
>>96402205No, go back to timing out in pauper.
>been a Yu-Gi-Oh! player for over 10 years>getting tired of how bullshit the game is>MTG friend invites me to play MTG instead>spent days watching videos online, learning the basics>"OK, this looks fun">craft budget Standard deck from singles I purchase online or get from my friend, fully knowing that it's not going to be competitive but at least I can play>all games go either one of two ways:1:>I cast- destroyed. I cast- destroyed. I cast- negated. I cast- destroyed>opponent's turn>10 minutes of comboslopOption 2:>10 minutes of retarded comboslop that requires a glosary for mechanics that are all essentially "tap", "put counter on X" and similar shit>board is full of creatures in a single turn all of which have protection and/or ways to generate infinite advantage when interacted withWhat I'm trying to say is that if I ever hear an MTGtroon say that MTG is better or more balanced than YGO I'm going to cast Murder IRL. It's the exact same shit except turns are slightly shorter in MTG.
>>96402715>opponent has answers>lose>opponent has no answers>win
>>96402770You're being disingenuous.
>>96399599Lucky bastard.
>>96402715>YuGi fag somehow believe his “turn 1 I win game” is more balanced or in any way better than MTGThis is what pedo art does to the human brain uh?
>>96402814It's exactly the same thing. YGO turns take longer, other than that it's the same shit.>"noooo my turn 1 win game is more balanced than your turn 1 win game!!!!11!"
>>96402715Honestly, that's how I've felt about the game ever since FIRE ramped the fuck out of the power scale. Was a part of /ccg/ for a while, and prior to the FIRE sets there was a clear power level that all cards from the Weatherlight saga forward generally adhered to, and could be clearly used as precedent for what new cards would look like. Nowadays, every new set is pushed a little more than the last one (while the ones that aren't are regarded as weak), and the game is steadily degenerating into a power spiral where every card is a bomb that could decide the game if it isn't handled immediately.
>>96400963female babboons are so ugly. They really should stop putting them on cards
>>96400963swamp and island
>>96402715if you're coming from modern YGO you should be playing vintage, not standard
>>96401741Gas Nosewater and cripple Blue, Black and Red.
It's Rosewater, ok?
>tqBoth the art and the flavor
>>96402128Home...
>>96397735Honestly, Fish has always been sort of a rogue deck. They really got their wings when Lord received Errata (like all the OG Lords) to be part of their type. Goblins were always viable. Everything else was casual table gold, until Onslaught came out.
SHOW SPIDERMAAAAAN
No, show UW.
>>96401516Well, there is always next Halloween I suppose. Sigh...
>>96404362Next year will be the same: 3 actual Magic sets and 3 huge slops
>>96404373Aw man...
>>96402784My LGS' way of distributing them was to 'raffle' them out (including this promo). In order to enter you needed to play a single game of EDH during a specific night. That's it, then at the end of the night they put all the names in a pool and picked one out at random. So yea, I lucked out here.
What will be the most powerful card in Dune Standard?My bet, Maud'Dib, the little desert mouse
>>96402715>Complaining about opponent playing 1:1 removal>"""Comboslop""" in fucking Standard of all formats (which is currently 80% mindless aggroshit because removal sucks so badly)My brother in fucking christ you're allegedly coming from YuGiOh. Have you seriously never been hit by DRNM into Evenly Matched?You type this shit I genuinely don't believe that you've even played Master Duel.
>>96404575>Dune StandardWhat?
>>96404582Dune is the upcoming UB
>>96404584Where can I see this?
>>96404601Anon, I..
>>96399599better than my local Walmart who wouldn't tell me when they were taking their Elden Ring display down and then it was gone the next day.
>>96404613Oh is fake… Thank god I don’t want to see Harkonen shit in Magic
>>96404631yeah Captain Kirk and Black Captain America are much better fit
Leaked 2027 Sets>UB Dune>Ravnica Rebuilt>UB Batman>Zendikar Remastered>Unnamed New Plane set>UB Seinfeld>Unnamed Kaladesh Set
>>96396593I will. Rate my premodern build.
>>96404797
Any chances remaining UB flops so hard that next year we don’t have these many sets?
>>96404838This is actually interesting but there's no mana acceleration so I wonder if it's a bit slow.
Remember when Kamigawa' Fox people didn't look like your typical furrie bait?
>>96404867not after FF sloppa made JotC 200mil in one (1) day.
>>96404883game is ran by furries and troons, what did you expect?
Remember when Tarkir' Dog people didn't look like your typical furrie bait?
>>96404880any suggestion?Sky diamond maybe?
>>96404797>>UB SeinfeldGEORGE IS GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATED HERE
>>96404867UB is a short term strategy. There aren't many franchises on the same caliber as Final Fantasy, and returning to those sets will never achieve the same heights as the first one.Once the pool is extinguished, MTG will be done for, as UB will have completely eroded interest in original MTG.
>>96404867Let's be sincere here, doesn't matter how much we complain here in the Internet, out there, in the real world, there will be tons of faggots that will waste A LOT of money into ATLA and Spider-man.This UB trend is now unstoppable.
>>96404989This is the future of Magic
>>96404989so two more weeks mate?
>>96404989Magic will never be the same and sadly this UB way will only lead to the progressive "Fornitization" of the brand and only the most casual faggots will actually care about it, the people who actually cared, enjoyed and had good times playing Magic, we all will be progressively kicked out.
>>96404989there are plentyGame of ThronesThe MatrixDragon BallMarioJames BondResident EvilGundam I think a SpyFi themed or Mecha themed franchise set would do well
>>96405107I would add:Silent HillMinecraftSteven UniverseOne PieceThe WitcherElden Ring/Dark Souls/BloodborneMazinger ZSailor Moon
>>96405107>Game of Throneswake up bro is not 2010 anymore
>instead of discuss which plane ot what theme will have the next set we are discussing which client magic whore will sell herself tothis is truly the end.
>>96405107>>96405128how many years is that worth? assuming the best case and all those right holders allow the usage of their brand
>>96405151At least 5. And you can recycle the succesful ones like FF that surely will have 2.0 before 3 years.
>No ones mentions Jurassic Park as a possible UB ;_; Dinos are cool, brothers...
at this point if we are going full clown world i rather have seinfield ub...
>>96405107>Game of Thrones>The Matrixnormies dont give a shit about them anymore, new series and movie flopped>Dragon Ballbandai will never never let its iron chokehold, they already have a tcg printing money>Mariosame but nintendo>James BondIt will get BBC as lotr got>Resident Evilall capcom is highy likely since they keep horing their ips but expect monhun/DMC first>Gundam not even weebs but some delusional boomers give a shit
>>96405158>And you can recycle the successful ones like FFthat strategy surely cannot go wrong, lets see how hollywood is doing RN
Battletech
>>96404883massive pectorals
>>96405246They will do it regardles and you know it.
>>96405246Reminder Endgame was utter dogshit and still made a bazillion dollars off marketing.
>>96405278>>96405278endgame was 6 years ago and the MCU is dead in the water trying to ride the dragon again (Pro tip: they never will)
>>96405128>Universes Beyond: Sailor Moon>Death Phantom-helmed Jund Reanimator deckGimme.
>>96405166They did Jurassic Park during the most recent Ixalan set. It had everything, including a Secret Lair.
>>96405307and MtG is trying to piggyback off that with the UB: Marvel sets.Think about that.
>>96405128>>96405107Is that the best you can come up with? WotC is going to be scratching the bottom of the barrel in two years.>Mecha themed franchiseGreat another vehicle set.
>>96405370They could make decent UB sets: they should emulate what Fromsoft did with GRRM and Elder Ring and hire authors to create new settings unconnected to the UW of Magic.
>>96405375Well i don't think every single IP is willing to pay to JOTC. In fact i doubt half of those IPs will come to this dying game.
>>96405375I see it now...It will be called "Pilot" and it will be a crossover between Equip and Mutate
UB: BionicleUB: TerminatorUB: My Little PonyLet it sink.
>>964054412027 is looking great.
>>96405441UB Bionicle will never happen because Lego genuinely hates it and WotC would never bother licensing it anyway.MLP technically already happened, so actual legal cards are inevitable.Teminator will probably get a Secret Lair at some point, with the T-800, T-1000, Sarah Connor, and John Connor.
>>96406000The day they make MLP into this game i mean real Magic not Cummander, will be the day i really pack my stuff and leave.Nice Quads by the way.
>>96405144On that topic, I am curious about how they'll deal with Tribal themes in Lorwyn Eclipsed.We know that they will use both regular Lorwyn and Shadowmoor, so does that mean that Elves, Goblins, Merfolk, Giants, Treefolk, and Kithkin will each be in 3 colors instead of two? I assume we'll also still get Changelings and Elementals in all 5 colors.
>>96406118I don't think they'll lean into tribal strategies as much as they did in the original Lorwyn block. It'll probably be more like Bloomburrow.
>>96406180ANOTHER TEN THOUSAND YEARS OF RDW!!!
>>96406043Why not just leave now? It's inevitable at this point.
>>96404743Has Star Trek UB been confirmed yet?
>>96406244why don't you kill yourself? Death is also inevitable
>>96406278all but
>>96406282Life is good for now. MTG is not good at the moment.
REMOVAL IN STANDARD? THAT'S A TALL ASK.WHIRRRRRRR
>removal, counterspells, and any interaction is just mean>lets print these one card combos that ruin every game they show up in
>Removal is a tall ask>Interaction makes you fel bad>Meanwhile Aggro is destroying several formats>Because attacking with a creature that if you don't eliminate (and sometimes eve if you do) you lose is actually what our zoomer dopamine seekers wantI wanna talk with the design team... With a baseball bat.
Tell me about Lorwyn. It and Shadowmoor are two aspects of the same plane, that's all I know. How do they swap? Do the people remember between aspects? Are elves dicks in both Lorwyn and Shadowmoor?
Does anyone like pauper?
These are your prices of Lorwyn Eclisped, say something nice about them.>Preconstructed Deck - 60-card precon deck (two decks) - $24>Draft Night - 12 Play Boosters and 1 Collector Booster, 90 lands - $90>Play Booster - $5.50 (same price)>Collector Booster - $27 ($2 increase)>Bundle - $58 ($4 increase)>Commander Deck (two decks) - $50 ($5 increase)
>>96406739Makes the choice between it and my printer very obvious.
>>96406739i thought they got rid of prices in favour of secondary market scalping
>>96406931They did, but brought them back.
>>96407020And it's way too expensive. Booster packs should cost $2.25 and no more.
Reminder that it's your moral obligation to proxy.
>>96407127You should buy all my 1 cent bulk cards and get some nail-polish to hand draw your own
>>96407127>Encouraging illegal behavior >Moral ObligationAnon? ANON?!
>>96407342What's immoral is corporations charging people more than $5.99 for 60 pieces of cardboard.That's what should be illegal.
>>96407342>Law>As a measure of moralityngmi. Mastema has you. Humanity is doomed.
>>96407370how about $999 for 45 cards?
>>96407342>he thinks he can spot my bootlegsAs long as you don't do something hilariously egregious like use bootlegs of list stuff or OG dual lands, no one will ever question it.>go to LGS for a tournament>cards are double sleeved>employee asks to see cards>"sure">gives them a cursory glance, no issueIf anyone ever bothers you, just act like they insulted your mother and tell them they can't take your super rare $10,000 deck out of the double sleeves unless they're buying it from you.
whats a good cheap way to get a bunch of dragons? card sellers keep charging bullshit shipping
>>96406718>how do they swapevery 300 years it just does>do people rememberFor the most part no, as far as they know it's always been the current incarnation. There are certain individuals who do understand the cycle though>are the elves dickselves become the humans of shadowmoor, pressed in on all sides by forces that want them deadthey're still dicks
>>96407554Say that you're gay really loudly and dragons will flock to you.
>>96407759That only gets you Gay Bolas. Ugin ain't having any of that shit. He's too busy fapping to the idea of sticking Emrakul in a triangle anyway.
>>96406718>>96407596Elves are dicks on Lorwyn (Golgari) but nice guys in Shadowmoor (Selesnya), which is notably the exact opposite of every other species in Lorwyn-Shadowmoor (except Fairies, who are exactly the same in both, also they're dicks).
Any neobrand players here? How do you use the hooting mandrills? Do you go for the combo and use the cards in the graveyard to cast mandrills in case you get countered?
>>96408428If you spent two seconds looking at the deck you wouldn't need to ask
I am trying to use MTG to teach some ESL (english second language) middle school students English. They're advanced compared to the other kids in their ESL class, so I need something simple for them. I used to play the game from 2008-2017 but I left my collection of cards back in my parents' house, very far away.I haven't played the game aside from a couple matches on Arena last year, and I noticed that the sets have become waaaay more complex and there are multiple variants of each product from each set. Half of the sets being UB makes them even more expensive and complicated for a new player who doesn't speak English as a native language.let me get to the point: what is the best set that is readily available with the most BASIC creatures? Core sets like m10 and m12 were perfect for my purposes, but they've been done away with for some reason. Do shops still get sent starter decks from WOTC? I need some basics lands, creatures that are mostly vanilla with a couple keywords and some spells akin to LAva axe, Divination, doom blade, rampant growth, etc. There are a couple shops in the big city a few hours away and I heard they take ship out orders, but I still need to check them out in person. But their websites seem to only have the latest sets back to bloomburrow>>96406718Lorwyn is perpetually stuck in a summer afternoon. Elves are only dicks on Lorwyn. During the "Aurora", lorwyn becomes shadowmoor and every race flips into a dark, ugly inversion of itself. Shadowmoor also has more "ugly" fantasy creatures like Ouphes, Gwyllions, Bogles, and that weird half donkey thing. idk if they're explained in the books but you can imagine shadowmoor as more dark fantasy with a Jim Henson look.Look through the card gallery for lorwyn and morningtide, take in the art and flavor text. then do the same for shadowmoor and eventide and you'll notice the difference.
>>96408407Elves even if dicks they are good guys in Lorwyn.They keep order in the forest. They keep the merfolk+kithkin settlements secure from Borgarts and rogue elementals and even have trades with those two.>>96406718Originally both where the same, a "third plane" that had aspects of boths but after Oona (queen of the Fae) came to be (she could be a planeswalker but it is never explicit said) she started to manipulate the plane as to separate the aspects further and then after a while the plane started to differentiate into 2 aspects: one full of sun and "happy vibes" (Lorwyn) and one with no sun and everything is figuratively dark(shadowmoor). Those two started to switch every couple of years to the point that some people would sometimes only experience one side of the plane in their lifetime but after Time Spiral fucked up the system that Oona established there started to crumble with Shadowmoor coming soon than expected. In that shift a couple of characters kept memories or didn't change at all (bridgit, sappling of colfenor, etc). Also Faeries apparently didn't change during the planeshifts because of their connection to Oona.
>>96405128>Steven Universefor the love of God, kys.
This card used to trigger my arachnophobia pretty bad.
>Stops Kaito ninjutsu>Delays combos by a full turn>Strips on-tempo countermagic from controlThis card puts in so much fucking work wtf
>Every 1cmc red threat has 2+ toughness>Every 2cmc red threat has 3+ toughnessah yes, the color of fragile emotional aggression
>>96408515You could always grab some Foundations, that's about as close to a core set we've had in some years.
>>96408515MTG language is not very good to use for ESL as it is extremely coded and many of the words within it are game jargon.I'd honestly recommend a simple tabletop RPG like FUDGE, with a simple scenario where they can use the language creatively in a practical scenario, devoid of a specific game's jargon.Also, MTG just fucking sucks noawadays. No better way to ruin someone's excitement for a language than to introduce it to them with a shit product.>let me get to the point: what is the best set that is readily available with the most BASIC creatures? Core sets like m10 and m12 were perfect for my purposes, but they've been done away with for some reason.They didn't make enough MMMONNEYYYYYYY!!!!! so WotC scrapped them because they wanted more money."Foundations" is the new core set. But seriously though, don't support this trashfire of a game or the corporation that makes it.
normalize land destruction
>>96408922normalize millnormalize dredgenormalize prisonnormalize toxic
Lads, I need your sharpest minds to solve this logic paradox> wotc ditched the draft boosters for the more expensive play boosters> wotc said that the alternative was to kill draft, as draft barely brings revenue> non draftable sets such as aftermath and assassin's creed sold like shit> spider man was now changed to a large draftable set because of thisCou-could it be that they're a bunch of lying sacks of shit and draft/pre-releases/limited in general is actually a very relevant source of revenue?
>>96409264>spider man was now changed to a large draftable set because of thisFunny thing is they failed at this and had to come up with the four man draft format
>>96408922it's faux pas to play ld in edh
>>96408515PokemonTCG sounds like a better fit for teaching ESL. The kids would probably be more excited for it too.
>>96408901Normally I would agree with you, but I invited these kids to my office during lunch to test them and they were able to read/comprehend Harry Potter and THBP. I want to start slow then slowly introduce keywords and essential MTG-essential vocab>don't support this trashfire of a game or the corporation that makes itI'm justifying it by buying opened commons/uncommons from a local store that has tables and events. I'm not 15 anymore, I'm not buying booster packs or products aimed at noobs. But yes I hate modern cards, artwork, UB, and the mindless consoomption that the game has death-spiralled into>>96408863I'll see if the store I plan to visit has boxes of set-specific bulk. I hope LGS's still do that. I saw that WotC still makes 30 card intro decks so I might grab one of those and some singles if possible. Thank you
>>96409448I didn't consider this. The kids are familiar with pokemon, but I don't know the game well enough and I'm too busy with other hobbies/work to bother learning and researching it. It's something I'll write down for the future though.
>>96409264It's really just bigger sets = more cards = more to sell. Aftermath had no target audience because it was un-draftable, the cards were shit (apart from, like, one random Human) and it had nothing really going on. Assassin's Creed 'met expectations', but it was always gonna not do great for the simple fact that people don't like smaller booster packs. Draftability is ancillary, but they know people like drafting and there's no reason to try and kill it.
>>96409455You're welcome. I hope things work out for you and the kids.
>>96409264Spider-man was changed into a draftable set because it was going to be standard legal.
>>96409986Aftermath was a non draftable standard legal set
how accurate is it?
>>96410461>grixis>basedretarded
>>96410461im assuming this is meant for commander based on the group hug thing in which case its all gay and boring
>>96410461I'm Cool, I Guess.
New Thread here>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430>>96365430
>click on mtgo dot com>no premodern modeHuh guys?
>>96410584>new>6 days old...
>>96410751Blame the thread splitters.
>>96410461>Dimir Faggots>Golgari cool I guess>Orzhov boring>Izzet not insufferable garbage>Naya Dinos>Mardu transsexualsYep this is Cummander no doubt
>>96410737people play it in the freeform tournament lobby, it's not an official format so there's no official support
>>96410584Actually thread here>>96411992>>96411992>>96411992
>>96402715Bro just play with jumpstart packs if you want a normal fair game
>>96404576DRNM and Evenly are annoying but meta decks don't carry them anymore. They're "too slow" and they would rather make room for handtraps and more consistent combo pieces.>1:1 removalNo different from Ash Blossom and other handtraps -> next turn -> comboslop when the opponent has no resources on field.
