Why do Warhammer players not like crafting terrain anymore?
>>96425286They do. There is just much more alternative to crafting. I, myself, use my 3d printer to do the work for me. As such, I can focus on painting and doing all the other "musts" in the house.
>>96425316Post your terrain
>>96425286This is a bait thread.still, your whole take is faulty.Terrain has always been something only some of the players appreciated, even fewer players were the guys to actually build the stuff.This ratio hasn't changed imo.Also we have the occasional terrain general on this here board.
Terrain building is fun but it's a hobby all on it's own. It combines perfectly with playing games but it's not required. That being said, nothing kills my enthusiasm for playing a game more then seeing flat 2d terrain mats or random nick nacks as terrain.
>>96425494I some ways it's charmingly dorky and retro to see old nick snacks used as terrain. But I agree that these days decent terrain makes a battlescape
Warhammer players are allergic to effort
>>96425286Terrain doesn't work with model bases.
I know you want me to say something bad about GW and 40k players. You want me to say they’re slop eaters. You want me to talk about how the only thing they can do is open a box, shove pieces of plastic together, and glob on contrast paint. The real hobbyists have all retired to historicals or play old editions in their garage, far from spoilt 16 year old children, you would have me say. But I’m not going to indulge your call to a two minutes hate. You see, the world of traditional games is an open and diverse place. We do not discriminate based on age or mental faculties. We let Mexicans sculpt Space Marines. We let trans people write lore. We make sure the rules are easy enough for a 13 year old or a Sigmarine collector to understand. Your ways are the ways of the dinosaurs. The future is inclusive consumption.
Do we really need to have this thread every fucking week? What is there to say that hasn't already been said?
>>96425286Because the game is so comically lethal that if they have creative or good looking terrain the games tend to end extremely quickly and one sidedly
>>96425698WE don't. However, OP's mental compulsion and/or demonic possession compels him to do so until he falls from exhaustion.
>>96425698This thread, and other like it, should continue to be posted for as long as GW trash continues to pollute the tabletop hobby.
>>96425316>t. wrongful faggot
>>96425286GW has decreed that you will buy injection molded tiles and terrain from now on, 99% of "players" do whatever GW wants and basically directly forward their paychecks to GW.
>>96425494>nothing kills my enthusiasm for playing a game more then seeing flat 2d terrain mats or random nick nacks as terrain.What about dollar store aquarium decor as terrain?
I'm gonna do something stupid and engage meaningfully and say that no one owns a house anymore, no one has room for this shit. I've gotten into terrain making but living in an apartment means you have no room you can just be messy in, and anything you make has to stay. Half the shit you work with needs to be ventilated. You need a garage or a workshop where it doesn't matter what you spill and you can open the whole place up if you need to.No big shock nobody is making a scale replica of minas tirith in their two room apartment.
>>96429347This is a big factor for me and the reason why I am not currently doing a terrain set for necromunda, that's one game where other player will have to provide the terrain. My big two games, Battletech and Blood Bowl, do not require any terrain.
>>96425286it takes a lot more space and prep i'd love to make big set pieces like that but i barely have the space for my own minis
>>96425698We do this thread until warhamsters are shameful enough to stop playing on bare ass tables.
>>96425286It still happens, especially in FB groups I'm in, but usually by the older crowd. It's a lot cheaper and faster these days to get 3D printed stuff, but people still absolutely do.
>>96425286Where the fuck am I going to store it? I don't have enough space for the minis as is.
>>96425399Sure, here is a Mordheim Table I printed on my old printer. Was a bit of a trickle to put together, due to the build plate only being 14cmx14cm, but I think it turned out great for my small gaming table.
>>96429275How exactly am I wrong Mr. faggot? May I call you Mr. Faggot? Or should I say Wrongful? Its totally up to you.
>>96429318If only 99% of players would use plastic terrain
>>96434557looks cool
>>96425286I don't have the space to store such things. Getting a house for myself is just a dream to me now. There will come a time when I will have to sell my beloved miniatures.
>>96438256just use random objects as terrain like a chadif you're not imaginative enough to pretend they're something else then that's a you problem
>>96425286needs space
>>96425286It's better to keep terrain simple and symmetrical to avoid arguments and make sure the game is balanced. I get that home made terrain has a lot of nostalgia for boomers but do you really want to go around no knowing if you earned your wins or if they were just because the terrain favored you?
>>96439269>do you really want to go around no knowing if you earned your wins or if they were just because the terrain favored you?I'm OK with it. The average tournament is played on several tables anyway, so it's no big deal if one table is slightly better or worse.
These "40k/TOW game terrain sucks" threads are getting real old, real quick. Stop doing them so frequently.
>>96439597Terrainlet spotted
>>96439269I pray this is bait, because if it's real I'm going to have to spend my life savings finding you and removing you from the genepool and I was looking forward to a comfortable retirement.
>>96439269The words of a true coward. You can always tell the players who never did sports as a kid, were never in a real fight, never flirted with girls, and so on. You can spot them within 5 seconds. Their worldview is built on delusions and idealism. Put simply, they cannot play the hand dealt to them in life and so they refuse to play. They only play “games” where they can control all the odds. Fags that need this explained to them will never truly understand it or live it. Bros that don’t need this explained are already living the good game life.
>>96434557Pfft ahahaha great work anon, fukin gottem.
>>96439269Skill issue, real wars aren't fought on symmetrical terrain and it's gay to demand it of your war games, it shows a lack of tactical ability
On a related note this dude is based https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIBsZK4sf-f/?igsh=MW5qYXdldHF0dGc1Zw==
>>96440295I always see that dude spamming himself in every single terrain group on Facebook. I always thought he was cringe - the feminine attention seeking behavior, the PED abuse, the corny tiktok style editing, the goofy tattoos,the conventionally ugly face, the wannabe Riddick attire.
>>96439269>because the terrain favored you?That's how warfare actually works.
>>96434557Can't wait to play this and have my dumb little mini fall off the middle ladder-bridge like 3 times (I have terrible pulse, please be nice :<)
>>96439975>Put simply, they cannot play the hand dealt to them in lifeThis 100% a true warrior makes the most of any situation he finds himself in (unfavorable terrain(. A loser beta begs for equal treatment (balanced board) >"nobody is more inferior than those who insist on being equal">"There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people." >"The craving for equality can express itself either as a desire to pull everyone down to our own level"Anon forgot to read his Aristotle and Nietzsche. Perhaps this explains his textbook slave morality?
>>96440415Nah he's based, he builds shit and builds his muscles
>>96425286I've never been a fan of making terrain, because I dislike the permanence of it.I feel like if I spend time making something really nice, I'm just going to use the same shit over and over and the game's will become tactically stale because of it.I only really like making reusable, generic pieces that can be moved around easily.
>>96439975Funny thing is, the easy sportsmanlike solution is "let's swap sides and play another game".
>>96440717Warhammer hasnt had a sportsmanlike community since the 1990s, and it is only getting exponentially worse since 8th ed.
>>96440555get some bluetack.
>>96440832>Warhammer hasnt had a sportsmanlike community since the 1990sI wouldn't know, I stopped playing when 3ed dropped.
>>96440717DON'T TOUCH MY MODELS
>>96439269>It's better to keep terrain simple and symmetrical to avoid arguments and make sure the game is balanced.I thought that too and then actually played a couple of games on a symmetrical terrain. It generally sucks. Your logic is faulty - if you're playing with different teams, characters, factions, whatever - it's already not a symmetrical game, so the symmetrical terrain will reward one team and punish the other. You gotta go full asymetrical, that way the quirks and oddities have a chance of cancelling each other out and you can have an actual fun game.
>>96439975Not that anon's idea isn't gay and retarded, but those are some schizo tier projectionsalso what you described applies to 90% of this site, where do you think you are?
>>96440705you can always make it modular, although it's tricky
>>96441748I said sportsmanlike solution, faggot. What does it have to do with you?
>>96434557Damn, looks lovely.
>>96442064I was always bad at sports. I came here to win!
>>96439269>to avoid arguments A better way to avoid arguments is to not play against feminine acting manchildren
>>96441909>thing that brutally and accurately calls me out is le schizo projection I don’t think you know what those words mean, child. You feeling personally ass ravaged by someone else’s words isn’t them projecting, it’s you being inconsolably rekt. Bet you even have a hilary bumpersticker on your macbook
>>96434570he was saying you're a wrongful faggot, so you would be Mr Faggot or Wrongful! In English when someone calls you something that's pretty much never their name but it must be confusing where you're from
>>96440670Roid trannies are never based man
>>96440415he's a goofy druggy bodybuilder - it's humor dude. He's chill.He's mid skill level