"Hey, here's our brand new game and we'll never have a better marketing opportunity than right now as we're launching a new show and D&D is struggling mightily. But no, we're not going to use it on our show where it's a slam dunk our feminized simp fans would buy it just to put on their shelves."They're currently pretending they weren't paid off by WoTC but it's unfathomable there's any other reason. For the show itself the game system is completely irrelevant since it's all scripted with improv theatre mixed in between plot points. Mercer isn't a retard and he knows full well it's not like "well, D&D is better suited to the show" especially since the entire marketing of Daggerfart is that IT is the better theatrical system.
>>96427958>They're currently pretending they weren't paid off by WoTC but it's unfathomable there's any other reason.Naive. The reason is clout chasing. They don't need Wizards to pay them. They do it for free since the casual normie fans still have no idea what the fuck Daggerheart is. You underestimate how many brainlets will only play DND and never try another system. CR knows this. Daggerheart is just a side grift and always has been.
>>96428025>Naive. The reason is clout chasing. They don't need Wizards to pay them. They do it for free since the casual normie fans still have no idea what the fuck Daggerheart is. You underestimate how many brainlets will only play DND and never try another system. CR knows this. Daggerheart is just a side grift and always has been.LOL. 99% of their audience doesn't actually play D&D. They watch it like a TV show and buy products and commission lewd furry art of their characters. The system is completely irrelevant. Mercer comes on the first episode and says "We made a new game called Daggerheart that's better than D&D. In our game we won't yuck your yum with math or give you the ick by having your character fail at anything. If you support LGBT and Palestine and hate Drumph you'll agree, won't you?" All those retards will run to Reddit calling anyone who still plays D&D a fascist since it was created by the Nazi Gary Gygax. They already call anything produced by TSR or pre-2015 WoTC problematic and this would finish the job.
>>96428546>The system is completely irrelevant.Yet you're here asking why one system is more relevant than the other.
>>96427958it had to do with timing. crit role season 3 ended early this year in feb, daggerheart was releasing in may, and d&d was a tried and true system that they knew they could use for their next season which they 100% were working on immediately after / near the end of their season 3.
>>96427958Because they are gutless sellout poseurs.
>>96428954This is utter retarded bullshit and you keep repeating it in every thread. Unless Daggerheart was releasing after the season was supposed to start, they had zero reason not to switch over to their own in-house system.
>>96429229they have 13 playoids for the new campaign, you really think that they would all learn a new system?
>>96427958>why is grifter doing grifter stuffWe'll never know
I don't care.
>>96428546at last, pure seethium
>>96429276 (Me) Because I wanted to give a more thorough replyFirst of all, DnD isn't struggling. Hasbro/Wizards might be struggling, trying to videogamify DnD, put everything behind a subscription behind a paywall, get playoids to also buy books and not just the DM, etc etc, but ultimately the only thing you need to play DnD (or any ttrpg) is a couple of friends sitting down in a circle, so they can't exactly force people into any of this shit. DnD will continue to be immensely popular no matter what.Second of all, "people" who watch DnD on youtube have zero interest playing DnD, or doing anything unless their favourite youtuber tells them to. So the youtuber makes a pretty book with pretty pictures and tells them to buy it, so they do. The book was never meant to be read, and it's never going to be anyway. And once they have the book, they still go back to youtube to watch DnD, so the youtuber is going to play DnD, because it will get them the most views/money.It's not that deep, it happens all the fucking time fucking everywhere on the internet, and unless you plan on killing yourself within the next couple of years you will see them doing the same thing again.
>>96429229>This is utter retarded bullshit and you keep repeating it in every thread. Unless Daggerheart was releasing after the season was supposed to start, they had zero reason not to switch over to their own in-house system.I'd say it's certainly a troll but I've come across a fascinatingly weird Youtuber who's an unpaid D&D shill and it's exactly something he would say. I see he's posted 10 videos in the past 24 hours.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0zCXor8vVc
I had a dream Matt Mercer DM'd a game for me last night and kept calling me a dumbfuck retard for forgetting what my spells do. I don't even like CR.
As far as I know the guy they got to be the DM for this only runs 5e and even then, like most of these shows, he doesn't really run 5e. The CR community are a bunch of thin skinned babies so dealing with such a huge change of a new DM and new table set up is already destroying their mushy pea brains without also inflicting the horror of a new system instead of their cosy little D&D.
>>96428546false flagging leftist
>>96429229Correcting and clarifying myself: >Unless Daggerheart *wasn't even going to be playable until* after the season was supposed to startTiming the release of a new product with a multimedia push across social media, livestreams, and youtube videos is basic stuff. There's no way in hell they were convinced that the game would do so badly that it would be less profitable for them to promote a competitor's game instead of their own. Meaning something else is profoundly wrong with Critical Role and Darrington.>>96429254It's their job to learn the system, and then shill it, because that's their fucking business.
>>96429229Do you thinkt he prep for the next season doesn't happen till the season comes out?
>>96429254it's not like they ever really learned the old system
>>96427958>Why is Critical Role ditching Daggerheart for D&D 2024Because they dont give a shit about DH, or their fans or shit. They follow the money. If Wizards pays them a bazillon of dollars, they will suck Wizards's cocks and paly D&D, if they see their cumzoomers fans will eat every shit they make, they will make a shitty game to sell it.Simple as that.
>>96428546>[Return] [Catalog] [Bottom]19 / 0 / 5 [Update] [Auto]>Critical roll accidently makes DND conservative againThis would be a massive win. The overton window is shifitng and hard to far right. Being Conservative is the new punk. The only thing stoping Conservative from being king is the new media in the u.s is owned by like 4 jews. Please CR called dnd fasict,i'm begging you.
Why do you care so much about this e-celebs that all you do it's talk about them all day?
>>96430490>The overton window is shifitng and hard to far right.Not even remotely. It's widening, perhaps, but the fact is that the far right still has to dress up what it actually wants in more socially acceptable language.
>>96430936>want deportations>get them You're coping
>>96431012Do you actually know what the Overton window is? Talking about deporting illegal immigrants has never been outside of it.
>>96430490>Being Conservative is the new punk.You said this in 2016 and you were a moron then, as now.
>>96430936>more socially acceptable languageThe absolute fucking irony. How's woke turbo-commie language doing right now in terms of being socially acceptable?
>>96431022Lmao there's the cope again. We as a country weren't allowed to bring up the illegal issue until Trump brought it to the debates and cleaned house with it.The fact that you think we've always been talking about deporting them is adorable
>>96429787They had a playable, complete version of the system in house for more than a year. It takes time for books to get printed, so it needed to be done months in advance to be released in May. There's no spin on this where they don't have the completed version of Daggerheart on hand to use for their new campaign unless this shit was recorded before they started making the game.
>>96431428>unless this shit was recorded before they started making the gameHmmm....
>>96429671>It's their job to learn the system, and then shill it, because that's their fucking business.They are lazy and stupid, like all playoids.
>>96427958>Why is Critical Role ditching Daggerheart for D&D 2024?Money and the brand power of D&D is why. Most people when they think of TTRPGs think of D&D and that means that the word "D&D" alone can mean more clicks which can mean more newcomers to bolster the already existing audience which will eventually translate to more money.
They are running West Marches-type tables, and Daggerheart in parallel.
>>96427958>They're currently pretending they weren't paid off by WoTC but it's unfathomable there's any other reason.If they were wouldn't that make it a sponsored play, which has to be declared by law?
>>96441581Advertisements need to be declared, not sure a campaign itself would need to be.
>>96442031Playing a game you were compensated for (via money, a free copy, etc) is still considered an advertisement. If you look on some YouTube gaming channel playthroughs you'll see that some of them are tagged as sponsored. And no I don't mean "raid: pedo legends".
>>96442200Not sure that's the case. Cause in this particular case, they use a rulebook, but not a pre-made Arsebro adventure, just a ruleset.
>>96442703If they received money for any reason from another company for the purpose of promoting that product, it's an advertisement and must be disclosed as such.They're clearly a bunch of dumb faggots, but not so dumb as to try and loophole and fudge their way around a paid sponsorship. Hasbro is run by scumfucks, but they're aren't dumb scumfucks when it comes to what laws they have to follow. Which means the far sadder and more pathetic reality here is that Critical Role made serious moves to compete with D&D and pull people away from them during a time when Hasbro was burning bridges and people were finally getting sick of their shit... and when the dust settled, they decided that the best thing they could do for their company and the games they've made is to freely promote D&D for Hasbro even more, put that cock right back in their mouths, and suck away.
>>96442773>If they received money for any reason from another company for the purpose of promoting that product, it's an advertisement and must be disclosed as such.Just checked. It seems they advertise whoever is sponsoring each episode on Twitter.Mind you, we can only speculate whether there is a sponsorship from Hasbro. It could be that CR get their D&D shit for free, as in jannie salary free, not as in sponsorship and clauses free, as Hasbro gets publicity and people to buy D&D with a minimal investment.
Is Daggerheart special in any shape or form? Is it good? We have a ton of D&D imitators that crop up and die from time to time, and so far it seems like a vanity project they abandoned as soon as it released.
>>96443213>It seems they advertise whoever is sponsoring each episode on Twitter.I'm pretty sure the FTC has come down on people being sneaky like that in the past.
>>96443289>Is Daggerheart special in any shape or form? Is it good? We have a ton of D&D imitators that crop up and die from time to time, and so far it seems like a vanity project they abandoned as soon as it released.It gets a lot of hate here, but it all depends on the table you play at. It's a rules-light system where it encourages more narrative and world building by both the players and the DM. I am personally having a lot of fun as I am a DM who gets to make wacky shit and actual boss fights etc. regardless of what some say, I like the no-initiative system. Last time, I had an undead commander who was an amalgamation of several souls, ripping pieces of himself to resurrect his fallen guards, summon minions etc. as half-homebrew half-premade mobs, and it worked out great, the players loved it. Basically the fight went on until all the enraged/evil souls in the amalgamation were ripped out in the process.But if your table is hogged by extroverts, the introverted players will resent them.The game system is free, just download the SRD and check it out with your players, it's not like you need to buy anything. It cost me like 20$ to print out the entire book, make it into a hard cover, and print a ton of copies of the domain cards for all the players. If I had a printer, it would be pocket change, besides the hard cover.https://www.daggerheart.com/srd/Pic related, my DH book. Doesn't look like much, but fuck it, if you are trying a new system, no need to drop many shekels.
>>96443289>Is Daggerheart special in any shape or form?Not really.>Is it good?No, it's another heartbreaker that is slightly better than 5e if you're aiming for a particular type of game.
>>96443289>Is Daggerheart special in any shape or form? Is it good?Its own creators chose to play a competitor's product instead, anon. What do you think?
>>96443350>it's not like you need to buy anything>It cost me like 20$
>>96443532You don't NEED TO. I made it so that I can have it in physical form. Just use the fucking pdf.
>>96443546It literally requires the cards
>>96443651It literally doesn't. They are both printable from the last SRD pages, and just readable from the pdf.
>>96443687>They are both printable from the last SRD pagesRight, right. Don't have to spend anything except the things you have to spend.>just readable from the pdfRight, you can play MTG the same way. Just read the cards to each other from a text file and imagine playing that way. Theater of the mind!
>>96443769Yes, you need to print your character sheet or consult the things on it from your computer. This makes it totally unlike every other RPG because you can get cards that have this info on them.
>>96443880That anon is just being retarded on purpose. Or just retarded, not sure.
>>96443880>>96446173Cards aren't even part of the character sheet in Daggerheart, you disingenuous shills. Official sheets by the way. Notice anything? Card loadouts separate from the fucking sheets? Stupid faggots.https://www.daggerheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Quickstart-Adventure-5-20-2025.pdf
>>96446787You really can't imagine just... writing down what the cards do, huh? Do you also struggle to play D&D without the spell cards there to tell you what spells you have prepared?
>>96446787>>96446802All cards are in the back of the SRD. All of them. By domain. He doesn't even need to write anything down, he is retarded. He can print them besides the sheets or just reference them on his device.
