Previously: [thread died>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQ/prompt:Good morning, saars. What do you think of Spiderman? Will you redeem?
is it only me or was this movie script really a caricature of itself? it was kind of disappointing, i liked the previous one
>set so unhype even the fucking general diesLOL
>>96428361>shits on your creatures and makes them take planes to invade other playerscheeky racism there WotC
>>96428361>No Mayday reveal.Sigh...
>>96428392A decent chance she gets a shout-out, but who knows, her heyday has kinda died.
>my peopleum isn't that a racism?
Can you guys recommend me some fun cards for a yawgmoth infect deck please?
>>96428419Blightsteel Colossus. That'll be $5000.
I accidentally went infinite last night playing group hug.https://archidekt.com/decks/15633118/anons_handI had the gay kings out, birds of paradise, the queen's footwasher (Azusa), chromatic lantern, chrome mox exiling selvala explorer returned and a lot of howling mine effects. I had 11 lands in play at the start of my turn.My life total was 10.Everyone in this general should be able to find it without help, you do actually know how to play right?
>>96428428Eh he's like 25€, i was already thinking about getting him.I remember back when i played as a teen he was like the coolest card to me.
Where’s black cat and her gigantic heaving breasts?
>>96428419Undying creaturesOmg im so smart lol
>>96428410Well, she does show up on the alt art for Web Warriors, so it's not a total bust.
>Comeuppance, Mirror Strike, Deflecting PalmAny other cards in this vein?
>>96428473Im partial to pic related
>>96428361are we going to gets 70s sentai spiderman?
>>96428445Best I can do
I diagnose you with autism
>>96428505Man I had a mirri thr cursed deckI changed the commander to BFZ Drana which is better but never as funNow both cards suck and I might just put mirri back in the command zone and call the deck a 2
>>96428515>>96428505not a furry BUT
I only care if a vampire got announced, did spider slop brought any yet?
>>96428555No, but Morbius is almost certainly in the set.
>>96428568Make him a morph that melds
>>96428579Also have him return all other creatures to their owners hands when he ETBs
>>96428361This set fucking sucks bro
>>96428392Marvel wants her gone so she doesn't distract from Spider-Gwen.
>>96428620Spider-Gwen is such a paper-thin character that I don't see that ever happening.
>>96428616Yeah, I think pic related is the card spoiled so far that I have even a passing interest in. Set looks like shit for both EDH and constructed so far.I guess Soul Stone seems good too but it's not an *interesting* card at all.
>>96428643>get life>pay life>get ca/cheating on manaI fucking modern card design
>>96428655>get life>pay lifeYeah that's why I like it
Picked up the Blame Game precon last week and had a lot of fun with it, trying to put together a deck with a similar gameplan but using Rakdos. Anyone done anything similar? The hard part is not making it too powerful so that everyone can still play their cards and actually have fun. Anyone done anything similar?: https://moxfield.com/decks/GHD5IRD500mA-LP8M7TMww
>>96428655Bolas' Citadel, anon.
>>96428675Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation
>>96428643she cute... spideer bros our time is now
>>96428672>we cant expect people to gather resources>every engine has to be self containedDogshit
>>96428681I shall not be putting any h*man ""spiders"" in my deck.
>>96428689To be fair the thing that makes Betor self-contained is his lifelink
>>96428673Budget commander from mtg goldfish threw together a build. It ended up winning but didn't stomp in the video:https://archidekt.com/decks/11896601/budget_kardur
>>96428717Same with gwenom, its shit design
>>96428700but inside of you is a spider
>>96428762
>>96428689
>>96428799>that flavor textLmao
>>96428643I'm curious what pods this will see play in. 'Bolas citadel in the command zone' is a bit too strong for battlecruiser. But in pods of the appropriate power level they are never going to let you attack this with thing. I guess it makes the most sense in rakdos as a 99 card so you can insta haste it.
>>96428799I started playing premodern recently to get away from that shitCool format. I hope predh catches on at some point.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/29-08-25-alania/?cb=1756515680Posted this last thread but it was private, so I unprivated it I made a deck for Aliana since she's a better commander than Melek for a instant/sorcery centered deck.It's not done yet and I want to keep it cheap. I am going to use it against my friends who are new (they got the FF and LotR premades) so certain cards like Bria and Ral seem a bit too strong. Any suggestions so far? I have a hunch that I'm running too many lands and treasure token producers without any X spells or mana sinks to make them worth it.I think right now the otter creatures and passive pinging from Guttersniper-esque triggrers are the most viable win-condition.
>>96428857all predh does is limit mid-powered decks, as the most broken finishers and plenty of enablers are older card that are still in the pool
>>96428873thats a lot of creatures, probably too many.And that murmuring mystic art is really fucking bad.
For me? It's Tappy, the best edh mtg content creator
>>96428883Hey I personally liked the old version of cedh storm decks so bring it onAlso it has more to do with old card philosophy than power, at least I assume. It is still edh after all and edh is a format that is best enjoyed under restraint.
>>96428885>Not Ladee DangerDecent choice still.
>>96428885I like the girl those two fat chinks hiredShe actually sounds like she has played a game in the last 4 years
>>96428689Designed so stupid that not even the dumbest of noobs could fuck it up.
>>96428885Fat butterface, you bros need higher standards.
>>96428857>premodernBased format, let's me play my beloved UG madness and wild mongrels again
>>96428884I suspected that. I took out a couple creatures that were redundant or just there cause I liked them. Anon,s is it a bit overkill to run archmag emeritus AND ARchmage of runes? I'm running an electromancer, stormcatch mentor, and archmage or runes for a total of -3 to instant/sorcery cost. Is this too much cost reduction since most of my spells aren't super expensive anyway? I'm running 39 lands, an expedition map, 2 mana rocks and a wayfarer's bauble.
>>96428643Yeah I've seen enough- this set is pure ass.
>>96428632She's in the movies and cosplayers cosplay her. Spider-gwen the shitter is here to stay and the existence of based Mayday competing with her gets in the way.
I played my first game in like 2 years today. I got completely destroyed. It was pretty fun. How was your Friday game night?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96429023It should be 60 actually now that powerlevels even of precons are so much higher.
>>96428885Based.
>>96429020Work kicked my ass today, so I just stopped by my lgs for a few boosters and went home. Texted my buddy about his novel, opened an Unstoppable Slasher (based) and spent two hours looking for my second copy of Greater Good. Still haven't found it.What commanders were at your table anon?
>>96428361This is the worst thing I've ever seen and I've seen multiple dead bodies
Whats a good time to buy precons? The aetherdrift and bloomburrow ones have been out for about a year now, I assume their price is pretty leveled out.
Astonishingly competent players at the LGS tonight. One of them even had a deck with a subtheme holy shit and played a turn 2 Void Mirror shutting down the player on Reality Chip combo.Saw lots and lots of slop from the decks (Cyc Rifts flying around, a One Ring, tutors, time warp chains) but the fact that the players weren't drooling Timmies made the game exceptional.
Mail was kino today
>>96429206You buy the fun ones before they fly through the roof. The Zhulodok precon is $330 and is rising nonstop. The Ulalek deck is following a similar trend too.
>>96428799It should legendary artifact creature- Human Robot Ninja
>>96429218It seems like day 1 they are too much, then they level out, then they climb back up due to no more new copies being printed.
>>96429262Pretty much. The level out and climb also heavily depends on how good they are. For example, Zhulodok started at lole $100, stayed there, and has climbed nonstop since then. It's averaging for like $350 now. Granted, both Ulalek and Zhulodok are in the top ~20 edh commanders of all time. My logic with this shit is to buy once, cry once. I'm not in the business of selling cards once I have them, so I figure I may as well just buy them before they go up more.
>>96429215me on the left
>>96429284Normally I just get singles like a sane person, but I do want a half decent untouched precon to have for bracket 2 games.
Can they be made into an EDH control deck or is this strictly 1v1?
>>96428681most spiders aren't even golgari in this set, it sucks nearly all support spiders are fucking white or red
>>96428361SAR DO NOT REDEEM THE 1
>>96429352any day now they're going to change color identity rules so {g/w} can go in any deck thats either green or white instead of both
>>96428361>Finally get Mysterio>he sucksNOOOOOOO
>>96428643>Remorseless serial killer>Hero????????????
>>96428568>You will have to deal with tards running Morbius and saying "IT'S MORBIN TIME"
>>96428885Too bad about that Wade Wilson arm
>>96429390They should make saying it part of the requirement to use his effect.
Played against a fatass tonight playing sephiroth and whenever his turn began he started playing one winged angel on his shitty jeet android phone and paused it when he passed, luckily he stopped that shit after 3 turns when I told him it's not funny anymore
>>96429460sounds based
>>96429460based if true
>>96429460is he cedh viable?
>>96429460me as the fatty
>>96429460>chad roleplay enjoyer vs virgin 'please be quiet' anon
>>96429378It'd be fine if it wasn't such a (currently) useless tribe.Lord of the unreal and illusion clones sound fun though.
>>96429460You sound like a fag and he sounds like an autist. Guess who I like more.
>>96429460https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rj0oJTqIpk
Post irl decks
>>96429378Would have helped if he was grixis too. That way you can at least play more of the villains and make a big wave of illusions. Mono blue villains is going to be a lot harder to do stuff with unless you do some creature type changing stuff. I hope he gets a second version, but with how many cards we've already seen I know chances are slim to nothing.
>>96429552No.
>>96429454With any luck it'll end up being what his effect's title is.
>>96429560:(
>nooo we need braindead card design and massive power creep otherwise people wont buy our product>ff set is infinite money glitchWhich is it wotc
>>96429552I don't think I've changed it since I posted this last, I'm having a ball with this at my LGS. I really need the fancy version of Rikku, she actually ate removal before my Botanical Brawler due to making things unblockable and stealing counters (one of my opponents was Denry Klin and I stole his Vigilance Counter)
>>96429552Ok now you post one
>>96429552I posted it and (you) laughed at me, never again
>>96429589explain to me how peacemaker isn't op FACT
>>96429593That is mine the Diamond is a proxy
Maybe I'm a brainless but I can't play/build/focus on more than 2 decks at a time. Any more than that and I notice the quality/fun levels of the decks go down and I'm individually less interested in them. With 2 decks I feel like I update and improve them frequently enough that I continue to enjoy playing them.
>>96429602It isn't OP if I never draw it FACT
>>96429585Both?
>>96428856The primary demographic WotC has always pandered to. The "my deck is a 7" and "bracket 3" sweatlords that show up trying to stomp pub games. That and new players who try to figure out if a card is good before thinking about if it makes the game more fun.Rhystic Study wouldn't be $50 if people actually self-regulated.
>>96429617Oh yeah lolNvm
>>96429589>posts decks>it's clear and legiblePretty based NGL. Also a Bantbro.
>>96429630trip back on
>>96429552My circa 2010 Teneb EDH deck I've been trying to bring back up to speed. I've made a few changes since this picture earlier this month.
>opponent casually plays turn 1 utopia sprawl 4 games in a row
>>96429630Appreciate it, this is my first Bant deck and I'm having tons of fun.
>>96429651>Opponent goes turn 1 Manabond into 7 lands then topdecks Necrodominance>Next game turn 1 Burgeoning with 2 bouncelands>Next game Exploration/Serra Ascendant into Ocelot Pride/Skullclamp
>>96429554It'll just be mono blue changelings.Hoping he gets another card. Like, it isn't horrible in some grixis villain deck. But, as a commander he'll be useless. There isn't going to be more than like 5 mono blue villains.
>>96429694not every single legendary creature needs to support an entire fucking archetype for commander, you dolt. you put him in other villain decks, who cares if he can't be a good commander? MOST legendary creatures aren't good commanders.
>>96429552I AM THE EGGMANTHAT'S WHAT I AMI AM THE EGGMANI GOT THE MASTER PLAN
>>96429699You're not who I was replying to so please fuck off.
>>96428361>A universes beyond version of a universes beyond version of spider manthe thing that agitates me most about this - is that the guy is basically going 'I love indea' but you can't do that for any western country. I'm hitting critical fatigue
>>96429708>but you can't do that for any western country.I await you stating it doesn't count because of some random excuse.
>>96428361>Gay Bolas was so powerful that sending his thread to archive also shat up the OP
>>96429554I couldn't get my hands on a snake token, so I had to make one..
>>96429720YOU CAN'T JUST REPRESENT WESTERN COUNTRIES BRO
true
>>96429708The entire set exists in a western city.
spider-man really has the most out of place looking art of any UB even Fallout fit better somehow
>>96429741This but Doctor WhoAnd I say that as a massive Whofag
UB when
>>96429146>What commanders were at your table anon?Sauron, The Dark Lord, Yuna and one of the simic value mermaids.
>>96429748Catch me playing Kuuga and Gaim.
>>96429743I genuinely think that spider-man is even worse than Who, it's close but what puts it over the top is that there's like 50 different variation cards featuring spider man, at least WHO stuck to 1 card per doctor
>>96429212>Saw lots and lots of slop from the decks (Cyc Rifts flying around, a One Ring, tutors, time warp chains) but the fact that the players weren't drooling Timmies made the game exceptional.Do you understand now that these cards you mention aren't slop and infact lead to games being more kino?
>>96429741Turns out the further you get from traditional fantasy, the more out of place the UB looks, who would have guessed?
>>96429758Anything over bracket 2 is basically cEDH to a lot of people here.
>>96429763I personally think all tutors should be banned
>>96429378This set is ass
>>96429769Avatar ain't gonna be any better if you aren't an avatar fan
>>96429759what does this have to do with piloting
>>96429770I'm not really a fan or either but avatar has a much clearer cohesion in its mechanics. Even if the bending feels unnecessarily convoluted.
>>96429777Yeah I look forward to a card that has four different complicated bending abilities without reminder text.Fuck that shit.
>>96429770Powerlevel wise, it isn't as ass and the designs are more creative
>>96429552Here's my most recent deck. Been experimenting with mono green and after trying one other commander that didn't work out so well I think I found one that does in Six. I really like how he plays out and the direction mono green reanimator takes. Moxfield link for easier reading since my camera is complete shit and made everything covered in glare.https://moxfield.com/decks/jaT8foNE2UexHoTPiCispw
>>96429765Why? They're a fundamental part of the game and have been since the beginning.
>>96429796guess ancestral recall and black lotus should be in every deck then
>>96429694>mono blue changelingsYeah that really does feel like his best option right now. Or doing something goofy with Artificial Evolution. He's a decent enough support card but one would hope he could be played on his own too. Unless villain somehow ends up a recurring creature type after this set, which is highly unlikely.
>>96429770The avatar cards revealed thus far (toph, avatar aang, redirect lightning) are atleast mechanically good. The only good shit from spooderman is bolas citadel on a body and a 2 mana black rock
>>96429805>which is highly unlikely.There's gonna be more marvel shit eventually.
>>96429722Think you missclicked bro >>96429552
>>96429803If they weren't banned, yeah.
Bro, the Spider-Man cards are so fucking ass. Kill me. Of course, the one universe beyond set I actually care about is absolute dog shit.
>>96429759which is still why I'm disappointed the bethesda series was Fallout instead of TESyou could slot TES in as a UW plane and literally nobody would bat an eye (assuming they didn't know what TES was)
>>96429552Transformer deck is mostly done, haven’t played a game yet
>flicker>warp>air bendingvrenbros we're eating good
>>96429759>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HAVE SOME GUY IN A ROOM
>>96429803I love disingenuous retard arguments>the concept of a card type is part of magic>UHHH WELL THIS SPECIFIC CARD SHOULD BE IN EVERY DECK THENAnon, Draw and Mana Rocks ARE in every. single. deck. You're cherrypicking broken ones, but those ones are banned for good reason. You could maybe make the argument to ban extremely good tutors like Vamp, Crop, and Demonic, but tutoring is part of magic and there are TONS of ways to tutor up various things.
best non-combo commander, go
>>96429796LE SPIRIT OF LE FORMAT
>>96428419It's monoblack. There's only so many cards for that
>Here's my bracket 3 deck that costs $500.Incorrect.
>>96429868I have a 900 dollar bracket 3 deck
>>96429877Incorrect.
>>96429879Why?
>>96429862Probably cedh winota hatebears
>>96429881Your intent is not to compete with upgraded precons.
>>96429889What is your logic?
>>96429839based as hell, nice deck
>>96429839Whoa, do you have ALL the Transformers? That's neat as fuck>MechtitanPlease let me suck your dick
>>96429884It has to be Winota and it's not even close. You could build a fucking $10 deck with her that'd still wipe the fuckin table
>tfw you're favorite winota card isn't legal in commander
>>96429889>put this in my deck>suddenly bracket 5 cEDHFUCKING GAMESTOP
>>96429972post it
>>96429589how stupid would I be to copy this decklist and bring it to my LGS
>>96429972Good, Winota is a sweaty faggot card
>>96429589>No cradlepoor fag
>>96429889Just my true duals is half of 500 dollars anon, other than that it's 2 tutors and nothing but jank.
>>96430004
>>96429868>bracket fag tries to rule sharkEvery time.
>>96430074>>96430074Sure, you can use a fake card, just me just write one some swamps my own fake card (Fuck off back to arena, nigger, 0, tap, you win the game, you can have as many fuck off niggers you want in your deck.~"you aren't playing real magic, kill yourself")
>>96430059;-; l-listen.. maybe one day, I haven't even found a slot for Mirri's Guile or Sylvan Library>>96430049It works for me pretty well, any early creature that cares about +1/+1 counters like Botanical Brawler and Cloudfin are absolute stars.
>>96429868>bling out my deck because I enjoy it>"woah there, that deck costs how much!? sorry, buddy, this isn't a cedh table"
>>96430089Classic poopdickschizo post
>>96430093do any of the EoE +1/+1 counter cards stick out in your mind for Tidus, or are they all draftslop
>>96430105>draftslop
>UMMM I DECIDE YOUR DECK IS BRACKET 4If your deck does not have 0 game changers or more than 3 game changers, does not loop extra turns and uses tutors, and has no two card combos, then it is bracket 3 regardless of what else is in the deck.>b-b-but retard you didn't read the article about inten-It is very difficult to prove intent. You can't just say that someone's blinged out deck "isn't intending to be bracket 3" because you cannot prove that. That's what a court is for. You gonna start Commander's Court? Mmmm sounds bad ass.
>>96430089Did you have a stroke?
>>96430117Marbrie
>>96429892He just told you it. The bracket system is as much as a concept as it a hard set of rules. Also it's an unofficial barometer for experience.1-2 Funny bulk bin meme decks and a Pre-Con3- Some more expensive adds(30-50 investment) to the pre-con/Testing Deck concepts out but missing several key cards.Anything else find the comic book guy simpson meme mtg table and sit down. Accept you are the Yamcha of the playgroup and stop pubstomping the casuals.
>>96430122>See your deck is OP because...It obeys the basic rules of the bracket and the only excuse you have has something to do with intent. Prove it. Prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that I am intending to be bracket 4.
>>96430114Thats cool and all im gunna play my deck anyway
>>96430132UMMMMM THIR?! YOU SEEM TO BE BEATING ME AND I DON'T LIKE IT SO I NOW SAY YOUR DECK IS NOT BRACKET 3!You have been DQ'd and I win
>>96429770I’ve got one new serpent out of Avatar so it’s okay. Human spider hero on every card sucks ass for Spider-Man.
>>96428643>nerfed bolas citadel in the command zoneone has to wonder why you would have slight interest in the nerfed version of an absolute broken card.
>>96430141Ask Tifa players why they prefer her over objectively superior Moss Born hydra released like 4 months prior.Same reason.
>>96430089Oh yeah? Here's MY fake card!
>>96430122You can make a precon very strong by investing 50 to 100 dollars into it
>>96430142its like everybodys first commander deck is jodah
>>96430105Why ask him about it? That Tidus deck was almost entirely built through other anon's suggestions. I doubt his card evaluation is good enough to tell you anything meaningful about EOE
>>96430105So, I REALLY like Ouroboroid, but I've never seen it. But I'll tell you that Maester Seymour gets people scared quick, so just him but stronger for 1 more mana must be good when it arrives. Patrolling Peacemaker is another card I haven't drawn yet, but with how my LGS tends to have at least some kind of removal on tap, it wouldn't surprise me if it's useful. Terrasymbiosis sounds amazing on paper if you can choose when you use it, since it says "may". Any particular cards? I've only opened a single pack of EoE and bought some singles, so I'm not up on what's around from the set off hand. The Jeskai precon had some neat stuff as well, like Insight Engine is pretty cool even if it's pretty slow to get going.
>>96430142You can't have Moss Born Hydra in the command zone though.
>>96430154There you go. You answered your own question. You can't have Citadel in your command zone either. That's why people would take a worse version of the card as a commander.
>>96430156Yeah I'm unsure why that guy would wonder what he did when it's clear having an effect like that accessible so reliably is clearly the draw.
>>96430152>Swordfag actually listens to advice from others I now rate him a 3/10 poster instead of 2/10.
>>96430124Let me try again, the bracket system is also MORE OF A CONCEPT TO INTERACT WITH CASUAL PLAYGROUPS YOU DON'T KNOW VERY WELL. You are walking into your LGS on commander night and you are going to try to pod up with strangers. If you go over to a table with three people running pre-cons they bought and added some cards to from a online guide with your "bracket 3" deck you made and stomp the table out because your are more experienced don't be shocked when they drop you from the pod. Nobody has to "prove you beyond a reasonable doubt". It's a system to try to matchmake people with others. If you already know your playgroup the bracket system isn't even what you should be using.
>>96430164Much like when a bracket fag joins a group and then tries to throw a fit mid game people aren't using bracket 3 when he never asked. I just kick them out.The way brackets are used is to rule shark and attempt to steal wins or advantages by utilizing the nebulous aspect of brackets having no solid real rules. I refuse to play with bracket fags because I don't play with rule sharks who are going to try and tell me my "bracket 3" deck isn't 3 because they decided. You aren't using brackets. You're just the same pathetic waste that would try to rule shark Borborgymous
>>96430173oh yeah same thing for that too. It's not a hard fast ruleset going both ways. It's a matchmaking system. I've gone to lower power tables when none else was available and did Archenemy.
I've seen precons beat bracket 4 decks. Teval and Pantlaza can be terrifying out of the box.
>>96430142Moss Born Hydra doesn't have tits
>>96430208>most mtg players are pure garbage, they struggle with basic lands let alone pilot a b4 deckshocking
>>96430216It's almost like 4 over 3 game changers isn't enough of a difference for a full bracket change
>>96430173you are not incorrect but the fact you use the term and dictate your games over jotc nulingo makes you a, what shall i call you..., a Spiderman india.
>>96430216It is quite common to see the following even with good players>Player A has bad start or is considered a non-threat>Player D is far ahead and arch enemy>Player B and C target D>A takes time to get on the board while people view them as not the problem and not worth wasting interaction on.>Player D finally taken out>Player B and C no longer have the interaction and card advantage needed to deal with Player A who was left to their own devices to deal with the immediate threat of Player D.>Player A wins from not needing to expend resources until the end after everyone tired themselves out on the obvious threat.This is such a common scenario in commander and how a lot of precons win vs bigger decks. You'll say B and C are bad, yet you'd also say they were bad if they focused down the shitter while the arch enemy ran away with it.
>>96430221its not the GC that makes the deck good or bad, efficient or less so, its the player and like the other anon mentioned most MtG players are HORRIBLE at the game.they have a somewhat idea of the rules and they like the pictures in the cards, thats it.
>>96430232i am player A.>play mono green>simply land go play style while the others and sending nukes at rleach other>player X complains he's been targeted the whole game even tho first turn was Urza Saga into S.ring into Signet>by the time the table is out of jizz, its my turn to start shooting ropes all over themyes it's common af, don't wanna be arch enemy? don't unload you hand the first 3 turns thats how people (wrongly) dictate arch enemies
Why he so big?
>>96429460damn, toxic UBtourists win again
>>96428361SAAAR PLEASE REDEEM THE CARDS PLEASE SAARLmao fuck this game
>run a highly technical deck that shits on everyone one time and become a boogey man>run gimmick meme decks and everyone thinks you are a retardwhat's the point of running rhystic studies and cyclonic rifts, it's boring
>>96430279Board wipes are generally boring
>>96430263>They should not have made this card because the character is IndianThey made an entire Indian set like 8 years ago
>>96430289nta but the name is like they called miler morales just spiderman africa
>>96430297No, not at all.
>>96430300racist POS
>>96430303Spider Man India is from India and operates there looking at the pic.Miles Morales is not from Africa nor does he operate there. Your retarded ass should be able to figure that the fuck out.
>cast ruinous ultimatum off the top of a ceasar deck with hasted etali>ceasar player gets all pissy>exile it with tasha>ruinous ultimatum again>flicker it>exile it again>BRO THIS IS SO TOXIC
>>96430308He is right. Stop pub stomping you bracket 4 fag
>>96430305Miles Morales, Afro-Latin rip off -2UBRLegendary creature - shapeshifter When miles enters the battlefield or attacks, each player must give you an artifact that produces mana, if they can't they sacrifice a land. 1: Miles infests target white legendary spiderman, it becomes black and replaces all text of 'peter' with miles. -Gibs me dat, we wuz spiderman, we built this comic
>>96430311>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST USE MY OWN BOARD WIPE AGAINST MEI didn't realize triple triad was bracket 4
>>96430321Your intent is to do something OP so you are bracket 4. Looping ruinous ultimatum is not casual. You lost.
>>96430325>no no no see, you are using MY card from MY deck, that means it affects YOUR scoredon't try to think too hard
>>96430328You lost.
>>96428419build a different deck
>>96430317>so desperate to be racist he looks like a retardmany such cases
>>96430333LMAO Gotem
>>96428643>Add alien as a creature type>Symbiote is it's own typeWhyEspecially in the face of simplifying other types into lizards and wizards
>>96428998>>96428689is my favorite new commander for retards
>>96430344Shaman is still its own type
>>96430345He's not self-contained. Garbage. Should also be Grixis with a hybrid Red/Blue to go with his Black pip.
>>96430352>Should also be Grixis with a hybrid Red/Blue to go with his Black pip.
>>96430350Viashino isn'tI think they've gotten rid of alternate wizard types like sorcerer, enchantress, spellshaperI'm not complaining about that in fact I think Symbiote should just be the already established Alien..
>>96430344So they can give symbiote specific support in the set
>>96428361Not even the first Pajeet
>>96430350not for long
>>96430303>being racist is LE BAD!ok predditor
>>96428361I'm not a capeshitter so I had no idea this was a real thing. Who's his enemies, the Sinister Saars?
>>96430416Don't insult Pavitr Prabhakar
>>96430416>Sinister Saarskek
>>96430232I try not to engage in smol bean behavior when I'm player A but yeah, this is the way it tends to go. There's nothing worse than being mana fucked/flooded, especially when you didn't build a greed pile and have a proper mana base. It's so bad and boring our group lets you skip your turn to tutor for a basic if you're screwed or sac a land to draw 2 (neither activates any potential triggers) and skip your turn if you're flooded.Lands were a design mistake. The game would be infinitely better with a non-RNG way to generate mana.
>Sand is now a creature type
>>96430539>nowDoes anyone have experience trying to take mono-black up to cedh or just really strong 4 level? I wanna build something specific, but I have a few ideas of how to get where I wanna go with it and am not sure what would be best.
>>96430539You're a retard. Sand dates back all the way to Legends with OG Hazezon.>>96430548At least you tried.
>>96430566This actually is the first actual creature with Sand as a type.
>>96430569He said it's "now" a creature type. It was always a creature type, but you are ALSO correct that this is the first creature to feature it on a card. Much like the retarded mushroom is the first non-token Saproling, but Saproling has been a creature type for ages too.
>>96430548>Does anyone have experience trying to take mono-black up to cedh or just really strong 4 level?Why would you want to do that? The only cEDH viable monoblack commanders are DrawHate Sheoldred and K'rrik. Mono color decks always just become goodstuff piles when you don't/shouldn't focus on your commander like in cEDH.
>>96430548Krrik is the most popular mono B pile due to turning black pips into phyrexian mana and 40 life format and all that, but the shell is just sheoldread and ways to draw a shitton of cards for lifeSephirot is gaining some traction as mono B aristocrats as it's just flipping him, sacing him, reanimating him and stacking the emblems till the table has hard time keeping upalternatively lines with bolas citadel and aetherflux that are Bx and you "storm" off
>>96430575My plan is to try and elevate Syr Konrad to my strongest deck. Stronger than my Golbez, but simpler due to being only 1 color. >don't/shouldn't focus on your commanderI wanna do it exactly the opposite way, his burn is how I want to win most of the time. I've been looking through cards for making it difficult to play against and make it work strongly. Necropotence is one of the obvious cards since it's extremely brutal if you pay life in to find creatures. >discard a creature>triggers Konrad>exile it from the Necropotence trigger>triggers KonradI want to try and run it as a Mill/Discard deck that uses Dreadhound, Konrad, and I'm not sure what else yet to solidify wins. Throwing a ton of black mana into Tortured Existence for 2 damage per activation feels like it'd be crazy good too.>>96430581I was given a flip Sephiroth, I was debating between him and Konrad, really. I figure a Fleshbag Marauder basically guarantees a flip, then it's easy to sacrifice/reanimate him and do it again.
>>96430593>Syr Konrad>Bracket 4/5You're a psycho, dude.
>>96430329these are the guys who think casting natural affinity makes the boardwiper the MLD player. filthy waac angleshooters, man
>>96430569irrelevant
>>96430593>Necropotence exile is a trigger and not a replacement effectI have been retarded for going on 15 years.
>>96430308>cast breach the multiverse>reanimate repository skaab from graveyard>sac itself>do it again at a later turnI love being the only blue player in my pod
>>96430623I cast suppository skaab
>>96430627that's usually what happens
>>96429889>pretending a fake definition of bracket 3 intent just so you can keep shitposting
>>96430735this is incorrect
>>96428361A friend just invited me to his playgroup .gg pod, can someone diagnose what's going on with these winrate stats? The friend who invited me is at the top with the 63% win rate. How tf does a group allow someone to win that often? (I'm the 1-0 in the middle)
>>96430751he might just be better than your other friends
>>96429349In theory it's plausible.
>1/1 white human>1/1 red human>1/1 white human soldier>1/1 white soldier>1/1 red soldier>1/1 red white soldier>1/1 white soldier with lifelink>2/2 white soldier with vigilence>1/1 white soldier allyIf anything deserves the viashino treatment it's token creatures
>>96429694At least he counts himself.
>>96429805There's going to be six marvel sets anon. Hero and villain are going to be supported tribes
>>96429349Do it.
>>96430751>19 games played>basically everyone else 2-5 games played>13 games played guy in last placeLmao what playgroup, he's just bringing in randos to stomp on
Seems oppressive.
XDDD
If I'm running a Sliver deck with the whole gang present (Queen, Hivelord, First, Legion, Overlord, Grave), what, if any, extra stuff should I run? I'd imagine some protection (Teferi, Crystalline Sliver), right?
>>96429765I took them out of my decks and the quality of my games improved. Let shitters ruin their own fun if they want.
>>96429889>didnt read the articleMtg players used to think of themselves as smarter than the average population.Lol
>>96430345This commander is actually kind of neat for UB. Not even close to being on par with the others
>>96428361>>96428412
>>96430173>I just kick them outNo you dont. You aren't the boss of anyone lmao.
>>96430232This literally DOES NOT HAPPEN because people arent playing their precins against powerful decks outside of the larps in this thread. In over 15 years of precon magic I have never once seen this scenario happen. Give it a fucking rest
>>96430345I have a Mishra Eminent Deck that i powered up a bit to much for my pod. Lucky I can recicle a lot of cards for a less powered, but fun Golbez deck.
>>96429570Canonically he hates the phrase.
Tasha keeps getting exploded, i wonder if i could re user what is already built and make it a saruman of the many colors deck
>>96428361Why is Indian nationalism awesome and something to celebrate but when America or European people have pride in their nation it means they're white supremacist nazis?
Dumb stupid donkey-brain Cardmarket didn't get my order right. The shopping wizard didn't get everything from my list for some reason and I only realized moments ago when the last shipment arrived. Now I have to order again. Which additional cards should I order to save on shipping costs?
>naw dude its a defender deck, its just a slightly better doran>draws 10 cards a turn>aw crazy I found my combo again, what are the chancesMy brother in law is a nice guy but damn if he isnt the most prototypical mtg retard.
>>96431505What's the appeal of commanders like this? You read the card and you immediately know what the deck will look like. There is virtually no creative space here.
>>96431501I have not trusted that automator in a long time anymore since they dumbed it down. many times it just gives you worse deals that you can get cheaper anyway manually. hell, sometimes even the want list cards don't show up in people's inventories and I have no idea how they keep fucking up features down the line. maybe the code is full of spaghetti so any "update" is two steps back
>>96431513It's a pushed abazan walls and toughness metters engine complete with a CA engine. The appeal is for people who have no creativity and want to build an abzan wall deck for some reason.
>>96431513I can tell you from experience this deck exists to show off the interactions he found on youtube shorts
>>96431513new friends and women
>>96428361Webslinging is such a boring mechanic. If they could do it at instant speed it would atleast be more interesting and flavorful. I feel like they put no effort in when designing this set.
>>96428361>I caught you now, Green Goblin sir.>You were about to redeem $500 worth of itunes gift cards>Those gift cards belong to the tech support
>>96431547I'd be really angry if they used actually good mechanics with shitty UB sets.
>>96431493Because white people are inferior, and it is clearly so.
>>96431551Damn it you got me
>>96431558>average poster in this general looks exactly like that but fatter
>>96431505That art is so bad I want to strangle someoneAlso >human>not dwarf????
>>96431501One whole winota deck, should cost you about 15 bucks, 10 if you dont need land
>>96431558>>96431493What the fuck are you talking about, you indian shitposters?
>>96431513Thats how WOTC likes it.
>>96431531It's for people who bought the precon and thought they were clever for reading the EDHRec upgrade article.>"Why did I buy a copy of MacCready, Lamplight Mayor? I just like fallout, I guess"
>>96431573The third and fourth, that's not shit... is it?
>>96431569lmao I might actually do this
>>96431520>Mighty Shopping Wizard, how much do these cards cost if I order them cheapest from all over Europe?<That'll be 25€>Okay, and if I order them just from my country to get them fast?<Then it's 10€>...
>>96431604It's India, what do you think?
>>96431641Yes, the "optimizers" are shit. No, the websites don't have incentives to make them actually work.
Whos got high 3 low 4 ghave deck, I want to jam something new
>>96428412>>96429720Would they make a White Spider-Man who said “I do it for my people.”?
>>96431501>trusting automated systems>not double checking your order>calling anyone else donkeybrained
>>96431767In his defense, they worked 10 years ago. I'm not shocked that it's been enshitified.
>>96431674Are you asking someone to give you their deck?
>>96431689white people don't exist. what you meant to say was "übermensch" - a human being evolved beyond the brown subhuman races.
>>96431827That isnt what ubermensch means at all anon. This is painfully evident when Jesus is considered one by neetche himself
>>96431850never heard of him
>>96431866You dont need to youre citing him :) and youre doing so incorrectly.
>>96431993who
>>96431803Yeah I want to try it out without bothering to build one myself.
>>96431102
>>96432061Sounds gay and like you dont even play magic which is a DECK BUILDING game.
>>96428515Simple but interesting enough mechanic. What would go well in the 99?
>>96432218So do you have a list or not?
>>96432283I do yes its one of my favoirite decks
>>96432300Cool let me see it. I'm sure its totally not just crammed full of edhrec suggestions, after all you are a deck builder right? I already pulled a ghave list off of edhrec anyway, tweaked it, goldfished it a dozen times, tweaked it again and decided not to build it.
>>96432356>heh maybe if I try playing at his ego he will feel forced to share it and prove me wrong!No i won't let you see it build your own deck you pathetic fag
>>96432363I gotta be honest, I assume ghave is so mono build that basically any deck would share like 95 cards. Is there even really a point of putting a deck like that together?
>>96432452You'll have to find out for yourself ^.^
>>96432363Why are browns like this? No one cares that you don't own the deck your pretending to, so why bother?
>>96432488>brownoid asks for handout>white says noIm afraid youve got it very backwards. Build your own decks
>>96432452>>96432356>>96432283I will say again, there's two ghave decks>thallid tribal reallyand>oops I didn't realize that went infiniteif you have ever seen cards that do things ghave obviously wants, he immediately goes infinite with them. can it sac things to generate resources? does it make resources when creatures enter? does it put +1/+1 counters on creatures? infinite.
>>96432463I gotta be honest I wouldnt build a niv miz deck eitherId probably just copy someonesI camt think of too many other generals like that but im sure there out there
>>96431103Heroic intervention, Clever Concealment, id run at least 5 protection spells
>>96432514The deck in question is ghave though, lmao.
>>96432521If some smol bean told me their ghave deck was tribal it wouldn't change my threat assessment
>>96432630no, that's still the correct response.
>>96430497>non-rngFuck off every game that does this sucks ass and fees because the rug and getting fucked/blessed is the point you brain dead retards
Whatever happened to Thaliafag? Did he die?
>>96431493Captain America exists anon
>>96432656Yes, unironically from AIDS.
>>96432646the only game that had a somewhat innovative thing with resource cards was force of will, and apparently that got run into the ground.
>>96432547Okay? I gotta be honest this still makes you a fag>>96432621All the more reason to not need to steal a list then!
>>96432685>>96432621>>96432547>>96432514you're both fags, now kiss
Card games should have no resources and every card should be a cantrip
>>96432692Haha lol noUnless...
>>96428799Remind me of this prophetic one
>>96432708You should never post again.
It's my goal to make good bracket 4 decks with each of these fellas.
Do any of you guys have custom mats?What do you have on there?
>>96432775How would you build Dromar? My Dromar deck is terrible. If it ever works, it just annoys everybody.
>>96432816Probably stax/control/wipes with steal and bounce as a wincon.
>>96432751Why?
>>96432708Thats just yugioh, but everything is a tutor too
>>96432812yes, dark souls 1 one with pricilla overlooking the firelink shrine, id post the art itself but i lost it
>>96432775It's sad to see players force themselves to build unfun decks to complete arbitrary deckbuilding goals.To make them good bracket 4s, the resulting decks would be some mix of combo, goodstuff, and stax.
>>96432812No but I am looking into it. Apparently inked playmats is backed up by like 5+ months>>96432882Based, fromsoft UB when?
>>96432863No cause everything would also be instant speed. And there's no tutoring
>>96429649>>96429700>>96429722>>96429792... fucking crickets. This is why we don't post decks anymore. Stop asking to post them nobody cares.
>>96433203Magic players are raging narcissists. They think their pile of cards is very special and it's impossible that anybody else could come up with that idea for their deck. They will never stop posting decks. They will never stop talking about how they build decks.
>>96432985Yugioh is nothing but tutors, its just they are narrow tutors that can't search outside their archetype. Also no, only quick spells or traps that have been down for a turn are instant speed.
What did you do with my misty rainforest I can't find it
>>96433248>>96433203I just think it's neat
>enter into league for EDH at a new LGS>check prizing >winner gets an OG volcanic island>combo is banned>MLD bannedWhat deck would mog the average list here
Just so you all know every time you "post irl decks" I've been collecting the images like pokemon. I have over 100 images so far. What I do with them is none of your concern. Just thought you might want to know!
>>96433334Whining.Say Grizzly Bears is a combo with no blockers for 20 turns.
>>96433334Unironically
>>96433291eated it
>>96433334Likely some turbo storm decks with non-combo finishers.
>>96433334i aint seeing anything about infect/poison counters
>>96433334Let the whole table just kill themselves.
>>96433203desu i linked that one eggman deck to a friend for inspiration, because they're getting into mtg and we've talked about that card before.
>>96433385I think Slicer is better for that. It has actual cEDH results.
>>96433364Rude
>>96432775Ive been building them for 10 years, they were weak even back then.Bracket 4 is tough unless you use them for colors. My favorite is crosis.
>>96433334non-deterministic storm
>>96432816Ive built it as artifact creatures, eldrazi spam, etb/ltb and as counter post styleThey all work ok
>>96433334Edric spy master turns
>>96433397Yeah him too
>>96433407Yeah. Most likely 3 to strong 3, even with game changers, but I like the challenge. I hate all these super card advantage cheap cost commanders that combo with everything. Boring.I prefer interactive battlecruiser EDH, and I'm not sorry.
>>96433431That's exactly why I keep coming back to em. If I played more recent commanders I'd probably quit I'm interested in seeing what you end up coming up with.
How do people feel about foreign cards (i.e. japanese)?Does nobody care or is it not so well liked because it makes board states slightly more confusing?
>>96433460I dont care as long as the owner can at a glance accurately tell me exactly what the card does, cards are just proxies for the rules text anyways
>>96433460People do care when they want to read your cards.If people don't trust what you say it does, then extra time is taken to look up the cards.
>>96433479>>96433473So if it's simple or well known cards it's usually fine?I guess the Skithiryx and Phyrexian Crusader i'm getting shouldn't be an issue then.
>>96433507Should be fine, but I personally find them irritating. Textless cards for the same reason.
Is this a combo?
>>96433518Yeah I don't really like it either, but they're just so much cheaper in EU sadly.It's like a 20-40% saving on many cards compared to english/german ones.
>>96433539>Doesn't go infinite This is just a synergy that can end the game
>>96433581Is this a combo?
>shitty spell gets countered>I just wanted mana for mana drain :)
>>96433583yes it doesnt do anything on its own but it still is a 1 card combo
Any way to get MakePlayingCrads to make only the forst card holo? Also what holo setting is recommended to emulate the holo of precon commanders?
>>96433605Man I wonder why this card is banned in Legacy. Oh well. Gavin says it's just a "one time burst of mana" so it clearly can't be very good.
>>96433610Interesting how differently words are used across different card games.When i played YGO a while ago a 1 card combo was just a combo that only needed 1 card to get started, but could include as many cards as it wants.
>>96433640YGO doesn't have any real combos because they don't go infinite.
>>96433650I mean the term comes from fighting games where most combos aren't infinite either, i'd say magic is the outlier with how it uses the word.
>>96433539Thats just your usual infect shenannigans. If your opponents combined can't stop any part of this they deserve to lose IMO.
>>96433755*plays Grand Abolisher with Deflecting Swat in hand*
>>96433770dat's a lot of setup and resources, specifically in mardu.
>>96433787*tutors for it*
I used to think you all were the dumbest motherfuckers I ever met, but I recently logged back into facebook to sell some shit and was met with a shocking level of stupidity. Yall alright.
>>96433640I was being facetious. Thoracle doesn't go infinite, but it's still a combo.Being infinite isn't the only defining qualification of a combo
>>96433203Dude it's cool. It's the nature of posting stuff online. I expect not everyone is going to care about whatever build we put out there all the time.
>play 3s>its a sweaty 4 >hour long game>have literally only arcane signet on turn 7 while my shit is countered>everyone has massive boards People are faggots
>>96433341I figured someone was doing it already, which is why I NEVER post IRL deck, anyone who isn't fine with just a decklist can get fucked.
>>96433397Slicer gets cucked by another person just refusing to give him away. Also, goad fucks you on the 1v1.
>>96434025That's not how Slicer works. He gives away on upkeep until end of turn, which means he alwaysbreturns to (You) during cleanup and (You) choose if the next player gets him.
>>96428473Wing Shards
>>96428473Not what you're asking for, but I'm going to post it anyways.
>>96433770>5 card win for a total of 13 manaLike I said, if your opponents just let you do all of that you are either playing against bots or were going to win no matter what you did.
>>96433673>term comes from fighting games>combo
>>96434144I also assumed a game from the 90s would be referencing street fighter
>>96433334>flicker Wernog a few times>windmill slam this on the table>sac a ton of cluesokay gg
>>96434201Kci dimir clone/flicker apocalypse
>>96434273shit baby now you got a stew goin
Why doesn't /edhg/ host Spelltable matches where we can say nigger
>>96431513>why isn't every legendary vanillawhat kind of retard even writes this shit?
>>96433970>anyone who beats me is in a different bracketyou had a bad 3, they had good 3s
>>96433248>people in the edh general are never going to stop discussing and showing their edh decks>they will never stop talking about how they build edh decksgood...?
>>96434381Because in a rare bout of foresight /edhg/ is smart enough to know public games of EDH are always a crapshoot that ends poorly.
>>96434447Yeah whatever cunt, I’m trashing them right now since they wanted to bring out 4s. >glacial chasm, force of will, 2 card infinites, etc>i’m playing fungus 3 getting all of my shit removed because fungisaur is an 8/8
>>96434381>he doesn't know you can say nigger anywhereWeird how you are scared to in front of a computer screen too, that's the easiest place to do it.
>>96434381there's a 0% chance that any of the people here are enjoyable to play with
>>96433334You know who.
I'm surprised ophiomancer is like a 30 cent card, isn't it a staple in aristocrats and such?
>>96434739it was in every black precon for like 5 years.
>>96434747Ah that makes sense yeah.
>>96434739It used to be a $20 card before they started reprinting it to hell and high water
>Instead of getting his own card, Ben Reilly is just a skin for a Peter card.Ben Reilly bros...
>>96434896Ben is almost certainly getting a card with his more iconic look. The real question is will Kaine.
>>96434900I just hope they don't make him a Chasm card.
>>96434900>>96434896>DURRRR WHAT ABOUT MY 90TH LEGENDARY SPIDERMAN DURRRRRRRR
>>96434563you can use Chasm and FoW in 3s, anon. Same with combos.>WAAAHHH IM LOSING!!! EVERYONE IS A BRACKET 4 THIS IS CEDH ACK! GAVIN HELP!!!How about you be a normal fucking human for 10 seconds and ask everyone to power down because you feel mismatched?
>make the mistake of clicking on one zoomer edh channel>the algorithm gets windOh Lord, what have I done?!
>>96435013This Ur-Dragon combo lets you win ON THE FIRST TURN!!!>5 rituals, Dracogenesis, Tiamat
>>96434381>someone playing turbo stax>someone playing mld>someone playing chaos with no wincon>someone crying they are not being allowed to play the gameit would be pretty funny to watch at least
>>96435033>>someone crying they are not being allowed to play the gameThis would be all four players
>>96435027>whoa I put 38 lands in my deck, can you heckin' believe it?!
Rendmaw anon, do you have any hidden tech for him?
>>96433970honestly, it's just retarded threat assessment, if they view you as a 'threat' even with no board, that's just how it be
My wife has taken to not shocking herself or using fetchlands because I beat her at 2 life a few weeks ago. It's funny how people react to data.
>>96435047>uh actually curiosity/niv is super flavorful because hes a narsistiv dragon and of course his deck would combo with him
>>96435053Here it is:>Dont be a fag lmao
>>96429649>>96429700>>96429722>>96429792>>96429839Very nice decks, thank you for posting, my handsome friends>>96433203Happy now? Can I go back to making racist misogynistic rants about this children's card game?
>>96435111>Very nice decks, thank you for posting, my handsome friendsYou're welcome.>>96435111>Can I go back to making racist misogynistic rants about this children's card game?Holy fucking based, my guy.
>>96435086Here's some hidden tech for an obscure commander, Nekusar, the Mindrazer>Winds of Change, Windfall, Wheel of Fortune
>>96434381All the Anon's I'd like to play with either don't want to play with internet strangers (justified) or are (semi-justifiably) concerned about getting doxxed or harassed by some autistic faggot and don't want to go through the effort of creating new throwaway accounts.
>>96435211damn... never would've thought of that huh
>>96435010A free counterspell like FoW isn't even a bullshit card. You lose card advantage and if anything it mostly is used to prevent bullshit combo wins at bracket 3 level. I don't know why noobs fear and overhype FoW so much. It shouldn't even be a gamechanger.
>>96435211here's some hidden tech for nekusar:curiosityjust do it, it'll be hilarious
Free spells should not exist at all.
>>96435230Ornithopter beatdown was too much for this anon.
>>96434974To be fair, Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider was iconic back when comic books had a 2nd golden age and were actually cool and popular. He's a more justifiable inclusion than all this post-1990s manchild/zoomie cringe like Gwenom and the 40 different multiverse spider mans.
>>96435230It's not even free. It costs 5 mana, with an alternative cost of paying 1 life and exiling a blue card in your hand. It requires 2 cards just to counter 1 card of your opponents. It's card disadvantage if you aren't paying It's mana cost.
>Get foil JP art card MotWO>top and bottoms of the card are curling towards me, aggressivelyhaven't seen that before
>>96435236The clone saga sucked and Ben Reilly sucks, the only thing good about him is his cool design but his actual backstory is quite lame.
>>96435236>NO! You have to like spiderman wearing a blue hoodie because he's old and based!It's not any different, get over yourself.
Worth buying for 25-35€ or is it gonna drop significantly?This card just seems insane especially since its colorless, i can't see it ever becoming cheap.
>>96435236>He's a more justifiable inclusion than all this post-1990s manchild/zoomie cringe like Gwenom and the 40 different multiverse spider mans.Gwen atleast has 2 movies that made $600 million and is extremely popular with cosplay thots. Scarlet Spider and Mayday are both irrelevant and forgotten. Even Peni Parker has a bigger fanbase than Ben Reilly and Mayday combined these days.
>>96435247The first time something is done is interesting and potentially cool. The next 40 times aren't.
>>96435254>seven manajust use chandra's ignition like a normal human bean
>>96435254Damn those prices suck. Also it's a SLD with a limited print run, probably not getting another unless they UW it. Good luck.
>>96435254It won't drop more, it will only go up from where it is now. Noobs and Timmys love it and I'm not sure supply is increasing any time soon.
>>96435254it's literally never getting printed again, so people are gonna scoop it up and hold onto it forever. i'd be shocked it ever dropped in price in any significant amount
>>96435264That's red, this goes into everything and works with infect
>>96435254Am I a schizo for believing this was printed for a future Dragon Ball Z set instead of the Sonic one? It's name and effect are pretty ambiguous and don't tie it to just Sonic
>>96435285with 7 mana, you could just proliferate shit
>>96435291To be fair, Super Sonic is just a plagiarized Super Saiyan so probably not
>>96435291DBZ set would be utmost kino but I doubt the japs would trust WotC with the IP
>>96435345And what about Final Fantasy???????????
>>96435345I mean Square did and they're more protective of their IP than Shueisha for sure.
>>96435291Super State is the broad term used for the super forms in Sonic, because it's Super Sonic/Shadow/Silver and associated forms like Burning Blaze and whatever.
I have literally never played a green commander. I want to change that. What's the greenest commander out there and do you have tips to build it the most green possible? Considering Azusa but she seems ... boring?
>>96435370inb4 >QUEEN
>>96435370possibly the greenest commander out there
What's the deal with Secret Lair stuff anyway? They always seem to be hilariously overpriced. Do you actually play with them, or are they for those insane "investment" people?
>>96435394>7-days average price 37,49 €dafuq? Is he being played in modern?
>>96435399>Secret Lair stuff anyway? They always seem to be hilariously overpricedthey are nuReserveList fucktard.
>>96435399Yes, because it's Secret Lair. They're the "extremely limited run, collector's edition" cards>Do you actually play with themPeople play with $100-200 cards, don't they? Why wouldn't they play with SLD cards if they're legal
>>96435404No, he's just incredibly powerful. Pair him with doubling season shit/lots of ramp and congrats on your huge army
>>96435370>What's the greenest commander out there and do you have tips to build it the most green possible?You know who.>Considering Azusa but she seems ... boring?She's a mistress of Green's privy chambers AT BEST
>>96435370Also, this guy is kino.
>>96435394>>96435404i want him for my ezuri deck but fuck the price
>>96435409>nuReserveListI am reminded that yet again there never should have been a reserve list. WOTC's response to bitching back in the day should have been "lmao free black lotus for everyone with the same exact print and no way to differentiate it from the originals." Anyone who cares about that shit should be banished to the shadow realm.
>>96435399I use Inigo Montoya and he's a 30 buck card, I just think he's a cool character and Princess Bride is my favorite movie of all time, I don't really think about the cost or speculative pricing or whatever
>>96435431>You know who.Oh hey good morning QUEENanon. If Commander was a 1v1 game I'd run her cuz I TC'd up something (based on your list) that can send someone to the shadow realm by T4ish, but man after that it just sits there doing fuckall afterwards
>people talking about pricesYouk now Chang can make you any card for like $3 right? And they're 100% identical in thickness, weight, light test, and everything else except when put under a microscope to check the red dots test. Hell I bet my ass they'll have flawless bootlegs soon enough that pass the dot test (if they don't already).
>>96435480Yeah i know the japanese empire should've won, you don't need to reiterate that.
>>96435223>>96435010>force of will isnt even good, you lose card advantageYou people are such fucking retards that this has to be intentional bait, only a truly brain damaged person can state that. also;Because you are pieces of autistic shit, when you design your deck to be synergistic or competitive with the goal to win at the cost of your decks identity/style, you go to bracket 4. You can cite 'b- but moxfield says' and you'll be wrong. I guess that's to be expected though, since you are subhumans that require explicit bullet points to function while ignoring everything else. If you claim you are bracket 3, and stomp 3, that means you are a little bitch trying to get a free win in and are SCARED of other decks built at the same level.
>>96435469I'm not the guy who keeps calling her queen but you're right. I changed up my list to make it grindier with a landfall dredge engine so it has a better chance killing off the last two opponents https://moxfield.com/decks/DAhte3U86EabbqFWkCMDmg
>>96435480Good.
This might be the biggest glow up they've ever given to a card, the old Yawgmoth looks like such a fag.
Tell me about that one commander/deck you want to make work, but it just doesn't for some reason
>>96435498FoW is great but I don't see why anons throw a bitchfit about it like they do with other cards like Cyclonic Rift or Rhystic Study for example. Most of the time FoW is used to stop degenerate shit from happening.
>>96435520>Most of the time FoW is used to stop degenerate shit from happening.That's EXACTLY why people bitch. FoW, Deflecting Swat, Eldritch Immunity (for the two Eldrazi players out there), and so on are cheap as fuck options to shut down the degenerate shit someone is trying to inflict upon you. Disabling their bullshit kills their fun.
>>96435520A single card in a vacuum isn’t an issue. But mana drain? Tutoring for rhystic? Force of will? Cyclonic? Bracket 4
Speaking of proxies, man I really want to embrace my inner weeb and do a Ryougi Shiki version of this bitch but at the same time do I really want to go through the trouble of doing it myself or paying somebody? Eh...
>>96435550do it
>>96435550>Do a thing>Draw cards
we need common sense triggered ability control
>>96435054and this is how to solve this? with beatings, canings and floggings
>>96435520>>96435533I like how you two think you are some genius or smart player when you use your free spells. No holding mana, just deflecting swat removal on your shit, then using a free counter to stop someone from doing anything and going ‘see, they were planning to do something degenerate, good thing I lied and had all of these competitive cards in my deck, I would have hated to lose somehow’No, you losers will counter something trivial like planetary annihilation or a commander and pat yourself on the back like you are smart. You retarded pun stompers dont get it, you fucking suck. It’s why you get dumpstered when everyone else pulls out their 4s.
>>96435608This post reads like a lot of projection bro. Are you ok?
>>96435608My LGS doesn't even do brackets. The only rule is no infinites.
>>96435649Does non deterministic storm count as infinite? Seems like turbo Storm is the best strategy for that meta.
>>96435648No I’m pissed. I wanted to have some fucking fun. ‘Lets play a chill 3’. I pull out my goofy fungus deck. 2 of them are fucking cunts and lie out through their teeth. Same rationale ‘uhhh its a 3’ then I have to stomp them with one of my highpowered decks, it puts me in a bad mood. Especially when they kvetch when I extract their time sieve turn 1. Fuck you, and fuck them
>>96435230This but especially the >if you have your mancander outOnes
No tutors. No ramp. No free spells. Your deck must not exceed 50 USD in value.
>>96435665You're pissed about cards like FoW that have existed for 30 years? Are you sure MtG is the right game for you brother?
>>96435431MY QUEEN! LET ME WASH YOUR FEET!-Azusa, 2025
>>96435230"free" is fine if its actually a steep cost
>"people" at my lgs talking about the financials of hasbro like it effects them or the game in a positive and meaningful wayWhy are nerds like this?
>>96435345Yeah the honorary japfu would never do that you dipshit weeb
>>96435498All this but 2 to 3 instead of 3 to 4
>>96435708>its ok to protect my combos with no mana untapped Idk man foil is a big downside but it still sucks to deal with
>>96435665Why not simply not play against those people anymore, bro?
>>96435711Same type of reddit fag who debates DC vs Marvel capeshit boxoffice returns to assert superiority over eachother. In short, autism.
>>96435713They already took Pokémon away from WotC
>>96435725just play your own free spell in response
>>96435683Yes, all of them. I don't run sweaty bullshit cards. You should try having fun sometime, anon.
>>96435683budgets nights are fun but i also like playing expensive bullshit just as much
>>96435683But how can I channel my inner Timmy with big Eldrazi if I'm limited to $50?
Would edgelord tribal be a fun gimmick?
>>96435760Force of Vigor is extremely fun tho
>>96435683No ramp? Go fuck yourself. Maybe no Sol Ring to keep it fresh but that's it,
>>96435797Probably. I've been having fun with Shadow as a go fast and die tribal myself.
I win very often in my pods and get away with it because I play a control deck that still takes 15+ turns to win every single time. There is no stax in the deck, no game changers, no tutors, none of that shit, it just is very resilient, has good synergy, and high interaction. I do the same thing every single game, focus all my effort into just surviving early on and then dominating the late-game 1v1.My deck is Bracket 2 like everybody else's but an opponent of mine argued that my sheer win rate somehow makes it Bracket 3. It's bullshit that I would have to handicap just for being a better deckbuilder and player but such is life I guess.
>>96435801>crying about Sol Ring when stuff like Ancient Tomb, Mana Vault, etc exist
>>96435757Force of Vigor is fucking garbage
>>96435810Show deck, I want to slow the game down in my angels deck without going full stax myself
>>96435683>No rampAh yes I too love my game being aggroshit curveout.
>>96435818so true...
>>96435757Wow, what an awful idea
>>96435810Teach me your waysI want to gain control
>>96435848Ok padawanBefore you can gain control of the gameYou must gain control of yourselfNo jerking it for 7 weeks
I finally have my Bloodborne proxy (based on this https://www.moxfield.com/decks/pQaA9U96-Ey9UpMEdUa3YQ) ordered to print. I unfortunately was too slow to reply to people in the last thread so just take this post as a thank (you) to the ones giving me advice. Especially to the guy pointing me to the OP and makeplayingcards. You saved me like 100 euro. I have one more question: How viable is this deck for other formats? I mean, I could just reduce the amount of cards and use it, right? (As long as I exclude banned cards.)
>>96435818It's based
>>96435810>the opponent gets controlled so hard and learned to fear to go your way that he just swings somewhere else in confusion>i have to spend even less ressources interacting and can use my ressources where they really hurt>the best piece of interaction is the one i don't have to use
>>96435893I was a retard a gave the wrong link.https://moxfield.com/decks/xFUo0OhHhEi29HrqV2OhPQ
>>96435909>>96435810More i need more
>>96435823>>96435848I'd rather not show my Archidekt account to the world but its a Ms.Bumbleflower list. The main problem with most Ms.Bumblefuck decks is that they go way way way too hard on the group hug aspect. I have built my list to strike an ideally perfect balance between group hug, pillowfort, and control.You need group hug in order to empower your opponents to keep all of your opponents pressured and making it harder for any one person to get far ahead.You need pillowfort so your opponents aren't empowered or incentivized to pressure YOU.And you need control so you can actually outvalue your opponent and win the 1v1.If you ever have one of these three themes overshadow the others then the deck can't work properly. If you have too much group hug then you will fall behind and won't have the ability to take control when the time is right. If you have too much pillowfort you will be overly passive and also not capable of fighting against the strategies that get around it anyway, and lastly if you have too much control you will simply get outvalued 1for1 on cards due to there being 3 enemies.>inb4 muh pillowfort IS stax doe!!!im not interested in semantics, also cope
>>96435909>>96435810I don't even play control but I hold responses and my pod has learned to fear me because of it
>>96435931Ms. Bumbleflowers ability is so insanely pushed, id argue she is the single best controll commander in casual EDH simply by virtue of being able to win by buffing her up.an early Duelist's Heritage will make for a short game
>>96435931>You need group huglol noyou can completely ignore all group hug aspects and have an even more powerful deck. she is incredibly broken, no matter how you build her. my fucking lifegain shitpile I made with her routinely wins bracket 2 games.
>>96435811>Your deck must not exceed 50 USD in value.Try to follow the reply chain my lil retarded zoomie.
>>96433970You had a really bad 3 then? Even precons should have an established board by turn 4 or 5. If everyone is countering your shit then you are either playing threats or they are just faggots wasting interaction.
>some retard wants to buy all of the precons I listed on ebayOh please actually go through with it, collecting precons has been hell
>>96435291Yes, because it would be insanely unflavorful and just piss of DBZ fans by being so insanely unflavorful and not representing Super Saiyan remotely.The best way to do Super Saiyan is double face transform cards like we got by the truck load in FF.
>>96436006cancelling my order now that you called me a retard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>96436012NOOOO BUY MY BAGS!ILL THROW IN SOME FREE DICE ANE A DECK BOX!
>>96435370No one ever actually reads the card so you're good to go with him once you give him trample
>>96435979i disagree, group hug is very underrated when its supported properly, when you are NOT the threat, group hug cards are incredibly efficient when someone starts getting too far ahead which is a control deck's biggest worry in the midgame and the main reason you will lose games. Even with a simple Howling Mine the archenemy has to deal with an extra 3 cards to their one every turn which is actually a serious speedbump for them. Yes, its true that you dont NEED group hug and group hug is less effective against good players who recognize what's really going on but let's face it most commander players are dogwater and dont even understand their own decks let alone others'. At least that's the case where I play.
>>96436031Reminds me of my favorite old deck techhttps://youtu.be/ddAs31dTntY
>>96435818>Anon has literally never played the game
>>96435818The card is literally so good that if they continued down this path it would kill the format
I just wanna play a bunch of cantrips and sling spells but without the tryhard rituals/Storm stuff, which would be best? Or are there better options? It'd be very budget. Vivi is out because a friend already built him. I'm honestly thinking of just doing Rakdos and switching out the commanders randomly each game since I like all 3 of these. Building an army and then full swinging with a hella Balmor-buffed army also sounds neat
>>96436139
>>96436139I love slinging spells with this guy and then getting to cast my entire deck while killing someone with commander damage
>>96436146Thought about her, but the white cantrips are very disappointing, or super niche. Way too many combat-only cards>>96436167That's neat, and definitely helps with card draw. Lots of red creatures that hit people for 1 every time you cast an instant/sorcery, too
>>96436203Problem?
>>96436203but I'm black and prefer playing red.
>>96436139You don't have to play storm with pic related. I have precisely 1 storm spell in my deck with her
Commemorate the end of this thread by posting your commanders!
>>96436272Monocolored severely limits the cards I wanna play, though. She's fantastic in the 99 of any of my choices, though
>>96436283yes I do have multiple commanders how could you tell
>>96436283SelvalaChild of alaraGay kingsVoroshIntetRithTrevaDarigaaz
>>96436283Ureni, Tidus, and Golbez are builtI want to make Konrad, Dion, and (I may change Kuja since he'd be the same type of burn as Konrad)
>>96436139Just be boring and play Zada, it sounds like what you want. Also storm is one of the best archetypes in magic, I dunno why noobs disparage it.
>>96436139Make everything into a cantrip.
>>96434663that's a combo deck, sorry
>>96436310No, it's not. I actually don't like Zada or her ability at all. I've seen how Ivy works, I think she's also super lame
>>96436283Tifa LockhartSefris of the Hidden WaysRowan, Scion of WarVaevictis AsmadiPurphuros, God of the ForgeElrond of the White CouncilBilbo, Birthday CelebrantGandalf, Friend of the Shire
>>96435254>guys is this reserved list card getting a reprint?lol
>>96436283Built him recently and I really like how he's been playing out.
swordbro definitely weighs 350 lb
>>96436334This guy is a value engine, supremely underrated as both a commander and in the 99.
>>96436312This bullshit is almost as busted and pushed as Vivi.
>>96436244Being black doesn't make you a nigger.Being a miserable person who chimps out like the kinds of niggers who play blue makes you a nigger.Flipping tables and threatening violence because you denied them a counterspell
>>96436344Absolutely. I had him in my Coram and my The Master and every time he preformed amazingly when he turned up. Finally figured it be worth trying him on his own as a commander and man has it worked. Mono green reanimation is great.
>>96436306What would you replace Kuja with?
my bracket 1 deck theme is 'mono-red', and blood moon is actually really on-theme since it makes everything monored, please respect my bracket 1 deck.
>>96436342>>96436382Trip back on
>>96436371Yeh he always exceeds expectations when I get him out and has won me a ton of games. I'd go so far as to call him the green Rhystic Study (no, not Sylvan Library it isn't even that good anymore in EDH.)
>>96436382Inspirit could be fun, I know whatever I build will have Red in it, I love Red in the context of artifacts.
>>96436283Coram, the UndertakerExdeath, Void WarlockTeval, the Balanced ScaleThe MimeoplasmOmnath, Locus of the RoilKestia, the CultivatorTidus, Yuna's GuardianCloud, Ex-SOLDIER
>>96436421>>96436306Post Tidus decks
>>96436427It's just the precon.
>>96436283EGGS
>friend gave me me his inspirit and a bunch of other cards from the precon and asked me to build a bracket 2 deck with it>have already failed twice at building jeskai artifacts beforeI just suck with artifacts in general. my decks either end up being do-nothing-durdleshit or combo-durdleshit. combining charge counters, +1 counters AND artifacts in jeskai feels like ass, ass and more ass.
>>96436285Alrighty. Just be aware her first trigger is not a "may" so casting your 4th spell per turn forces you to draw-discard with no extra pay off
>>96436283Last time I ask niggas to post their irl decks>>96436370You make a fine argument
>>96429589>>96436427Mine's already posted up here
>>96436472>Flipping tables and threatening violence
Was there a card similar to Mirror Entity printed in a recent set?
>>96436629Yeah and its legendary
>>96436306How does one build Konrad?
>>96436733R u serious?
>>96436629dollmaker's shop/porcelain gallery
>>96436733A combination of Self-Mill and Reanimator. You need a lot of ways to get creatures in and out of the graveyard in order to trigger Konrad. Also, effects similar to Konrad himself will help double up on the damage.
>>96436722>>96436629Not out yet
>>96436733>cast konrad>mill the table>win from pings>reanimate if boredthats about it really
>>96436733Stuff that's goodI have some stuff here from my black binder that feel like they'll synergize
>>96436774>>96436804Thanks. I'm putting a hatebears list together and I knew there was a similar card printed recently, but I didn't know which set or what to look for on Scryfall to find it.
So like what's edh going to look like in 5 years? In 10?
>>96436869Does it matter? You won't be there.
>>96436842>CoM>Infernal Genesis>Tombstone StairwellThese are so fucking weird
>>96436895None of those are good in Konrad, he's just being a snowflake.
>>96436878Why not?
>>96436906Are you retarded?
>>96436924>ArE yOu WeTaWdEd????Shut the fuck up. Chains hurts you more than anyone because you can't even draw cards. Infernal Genesis is a 6 mana do-nothing that fuels aristocrat decks. What's even the point of any card with Cumulative Upkeep? Lets people kill you with zombies.
>>96436804she cute
>>96436942....seek help.
>>96436906>snowflakeWait til you see the landbase
>>96436959ice age bros... we win
How do I close out games? I have creatures but it never feels like enough creatures to beat 3 people, at least not before the combo player goes off.
>>96436959>the first time he's been funny in his life
>>96437043that's why you only build combo decks
>>96437043stop trying to kill multiple people at once, if you are an aggressive deck you need to focus on one person at a time if you want to win. Yes, i know how it sounds, people will be very angry and upset that you target them but after a while you just learn to ignore the spergy faggots' crying and the game becomes fun again.
>>96437043You gotta swing with like 80 little bro
>>96435457>and Princess Bride is my favorite movie of all timejfc "people" like these actually exist...
>>96437090>Liking things? Pshuh, that's for babies. I'm way too cool for that shit.Don't you have some clove-flavored vape to go puff, kiddo?
>>96437090Being a contrarian (aka having bad taste) isn't endearing
>>96437090>"""people""" when your favorite movie isnt Schindler's List
>>96435457He also has some of the best art in game.
>>96436842>>96436959Okay so likeYou have tutors and removal and discard but what does the deck do??? Why only basics??
>>96437090Yeah, like my wife
>>96435399This is my commander
>>96437090Literally you
>>96437123Mill me, mill you, Konrad burns people, discard, reclaim/reanimate, and try to play this at high bracket 4 lmaoBasics are for Extraplanar Lens as a redundancy for Crypt Ghast. Endless Atlas can also be used for a cheap repeatable draw, or Sceptre of Eternal Glory. Anything that cares about lands with the same name. I may include a Demolition Field so I can destroy nonbasics I dislike for a Snow Swamp.
>>96437170>>96437170>>96437170
>>96437090>There are "people" who can enjoy life and not take themselves and everything so seriouslyThere should be more, but "people" like (you) need to be miserable cunts instead.
>>96437043What color? That wildly changes how you take out the table.
>>96437054Works for drooling retards, I guess.
>>96437090Cry more, faggot. It's the GOAT in my eye
>>96437122That whole secret lair has some great artwork to it, the command tower is fantastic as well
