Warhammer Celebrity Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Level Animation:https://gofile.io/d/J7muqs>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/edit?usp=drivesdk>Previous Thread:>>96429207>Thread question:If you could meet a named character in 40k who would it be and what would you ask them?
What would your preferred edition be like on this chart
>>96431921>TQAhrimanWhat's it feel like having failed to save your brother from super cancer?
>>96431921>TQThe Emperor and I'd ask what bionicle kit is his favorite.
>>96431944This is what the best edition would be like.
>>96431944Bottom right. Termagant spam reigns supreme.
For those claiming inspect element I’ll out myself as a phone poster. It’s an email I don’t know why it’s not on the site
>>96431944Bottom middle. I like armies that take part in all phases.
>>96431944>Hordehammer with melee meta just as they refresh orks for the 11th edition starter boxAbsolute Kinema
I want to just sleep
>>96431982I like shooty Orks tho
>>96431946Them perver isn't a 40k character, xhe's a HH character
>>96431944In the middle somewhere? Where different playstyles are all viable and the game is asymmetrical but still has a decent chance of winning no matter what your playstyle is?
>>96431988I mean you always wanna have some shooty boyz holding objectives
>>96431977A box of intercessors is about to be 155 dollars in the US LMAO.Zion Don is coming for your warhammer.
Nice relic armor bro
>>96431944Four points right two points up. 40k should have more emphasis on guns over melee while still having melee as a viable option, and I think less hordes means less blobs to move around and more action happening.>t. Guard Player
>>96432016when I started playing they were $60
>>96432024Nice Stormcasts dude, but /aosg/ is two threads down.
>>96431944>no psychic meta optionI reject this premise.
>>96432016I wish he died last night. Vance is a pussy and maga won't obey him
>>96432016Americans deserve it.
Who makes the best 3d printed minis that look closest to GW?
>>96431977Nobody gives a shit that youre a phone poster you massive faggot.
>>96432016>>96432034>>96432038Hey, cool it with the antisemitism
>>96432031thats just a shooting meta with extra steps, unless you want 6e geomancy back
>>96432039Wouldn't you like to know James.
>>96432024What are some good alternatives to these god-awful helmets? I can't get ahold of the old death masks
>>96432044You say it is antisemitic, you didn't say any of it was wrong.
>>96432049No it isn't. Its the shooting phase with less steps. No guns required.
>>96432055Buy some other blood angel kits from ebay. Like those old BA tacticals.
>>96432016The tariffs imposed unilaterally by the executive branch were declared illegal the other day. So the future state of the tariff regime, and the prices US customers will be expected to bear, is looking kind of nebulous at the moment. Which is great, everyone loves planning their economy when nobody knows what anything will cost from one week to the next.
>>96432055Stormcast Eternals helmets
>>96432081yeah but like inflation or "supply chain issues" companies will capitalize on the confusion and continue to charge for non-existent tariffs.
>>96432055I used gravis helmets on all my jump troops
>>96432101Well of course, corporations are evil fucks.
>dumb down the rules significantly so americans can understand it>make 40k less grimdark and bri'ish to appeal to american audiences>raise prices for everyone because america puts in tarriffs and GW doesnt want to make prices "unfair" for americanstime to admit america, or at least GW catering to americans, is what has ruined warhammer
>>96432028stormcast mog these into oblivion desu
>>96432116>time to admit america, or at least GW catering to americans, is what has ruined warhammerThat was always the case.
>all this talk of trade blockades and weak, ineffectual monarchies seeking foreign intervention because they can't control their own borders and are overrun by violent gobbledygook speaking mongrels and being geopolitically bullied by funny speaking squinteyed freaksI thought this was /40kg/, so why are we discussing Star Wars: The Phantom Menace?
>>96432081>The tariffs imposed unilaterally by the executive branch were declared illegal the other day.Why? The executive branch has the power to decide tariffs. It's one of the powers the legislative branch provided them so that the executive bureaucracy can manage the markets. What right does the judicial branch have to declare the law... illegal?
>>96432055Stormcasts, unironically.
>>96432128Eldar Scrolls exists in the AoS universe?
>>96432162Infinite Realms, bro. Who says there isn't one where slann degenerated into argonians?
>>96432179>Who says there isn't one where slann degenerated into argonians?That'd make sense if Old Ones were dragons.You have a good point.
Why print 1000 boxes at 100$ a pop when you could print 100 for 1000$ and they still sell out
>>96432191No, it means Old Ones were trees.
>>96431977I know it's gonna sound retarded, but some warhammer kits are actually not a bad investment.I don't mean "buy 10,000 boxes and stick them in your garage", but if you've got some spare money, buy some popular kits and just hold onto them for about 5/10 years or so. Chances are the prices of those kits will have jumped so much in ten years than even if you sell at a discount, you'll be getting profit. Now this won't double or triple your money or anything like that, but getting a solid 30-40% markup isn't out of the question, especially if some of those kits go OOP and then you can fleece grogs. Moreover, if they do 'unique' models in starter boxes every edition, you can hold onto those until people pay out big for them.
>>96431977Post the link or cocede your baiting
>>96432192yes, plenty of americans inmigrants are driving away locals like me where I live.We should have shut our mouth about comparisons vs the US.
>>96432157Reeeeeeee
>>96431944Blood Angels btw
>>96432235live where? mexico?
>>96432055Literally just put your favorite helmets on them
>>96432081>declared illegal Here's the secret, anon. Laws only exist if they are enforced, but certainly exist if they are enforced without any paper behind them.The current regime's leader has the "No one will stop me" loophole buff that lets him to what he wants. His political opposition is either few or too cowardly to get in his way. If Big Mac Deal Don wants to do something, he will brute-force it through. The courts can say what they want, he'll find a way to fuck them up
>>96432229that way of thinking is the source of the scalper bubble in ebay and other places.I bough a complete RT land raider around 2017 for 60 eurobucks and I thoung I was overpaying. Nowadays it would be 3x or more that. It's a bubble and as a collector I hope it crashes, hardly.
>mutants>xenos>hereticsI enjoy killing them all in the name of the Emperor. Going out into the void to discover Big E was right to murder them all is single greatest revelation one can have.
>>96432055It's been discontinued, but if you can find a box, consider grabbing the SCE paladin kit. It's got like fifteen heads in it, five heads for three different unit builds. And at least most of them have the impassive masks + transverse crests. Plus you might be able to use the weapons and armor for kitbashing to make the SGs look more relic-y.
Mould lines on the new Deathwatch Kill Team are apparently worse than even on GW's oldest models.
>>96432254Southern EU. The best place in the world to live (if you have a decent job or passive income, that is)
>>96431944>melee and horde quadrant is green
>>96432280Those aren't anywhere near as bad as some of the stuff they're still selling for tow
>>96432280holy shit, that's bad for a new kit. I've seen better mold lines in 20 year old sprues
>>96432116As an American, this is probably true.
>>96432229>I don't mean "buy 10,000 boxes and stick them in your garage", but if you've got some spare money, buy some popular kits and just hold onto them for about 5/10 years or so.>Chances are the prices of those kits will have jumped so much in ten years than even if you sell at a discount, you'll be getting profit.Anon, since 3D printing exists and becoming more common by the year those kits will be practically worthless in 5-10 years.In the past this type of kit hoarding was somewhat profitable only because the common man couldn't easily recreate GW sculpts and other shit.
>>96432280I'll be honest though, I'm pretty good at cleaning up models and those look very easy to clean.
>>96432321No one cares about 3d printing no matter how much you shill for it.
>>96432321>Anon, since 3D printing exists and becoming more common by the year those kits will be practically worthless in 5-10 yearsYou 3d print faggots have been saying that for 15 years and yet it still never happens. Because it never will.
Is the collage dude here? I have a model i wanna submit for it
>>96432278Remember when GW purged half the stormcast eternal range for no real reason? Some of the models weren't even that old.Selling Fast!
>>96432321original minis will always sell for more money, and actual 1:1 copies of GW stuff are not common at all.You don't get the nostalgia/"this is the real deal" factor that collectors crave. That's by unsealed minis area also always more expensive than bare sprues
>>96432081>declared illegalYet allowed to remain until an appeal can be filed with SCOTUS.
>>96432332You sound awfully defensive about your poor economic choices.
> This board has bitched for nearly a decade about blacks >GW procedes to try to price them out of the hobby>board bitches
>>96432321>Yo bro learn an entire new hobby to do it bro just buy the new expensive printer bro just keep adjusting after every failed print bro you need to somehow squabble the STL's from the miser gatekeeping community bro you need a setup to ensure the carcinogenic toxic resin doesn't Walter White you broIt will always be more convenient to simply buy the models, even if it's more expensive, just as people tend to spend more money if they are guaranteed a consistent product. Yes, 3D Printing has it's uses, but it's not going to be 'replacing' traditional models any time soon.
>>96432378fuck off resin vegan
>>96432232There’s no fucking link retard it just goes to their site homepage
>>96432387>grabs the latest space marine battleforce on my EBT card*sucks teeth* thanks for paying those taxes, lil timmy
>>96432387>anon bitches about other anons bitching
>>96432387They've been priced out since the beginning.
>>96432332>>96432333>>96432392If he’s talking about people printing there own stuff then yeah that’s not taking off, but people buying shit printed for them on Etsy and eBay is massive now
>>96432076Theu dont exist unbuilt anymore.>>96432097>>96432157Those look just as bad as the SG helmets>>96432103That could look good. I was also thinking about doing Infiltrator helmets
>>96432414>massiveOnly compared to your micropenis. Still only a piddling pittance on the scale GW operates on.
>>96432280Literally aos lumineth models
>>96432260Im just trying to make an informed decision anon. Calm down.
>>96432409Not true. And anyway, GW want to expand to other demographic besides pale euros/yank young nerds. So they'll keep trying
>>96432443>GW want to expand to other demographic besides pale euros/yank young nerds. So they'll keep tryingno, blackrock a shareholder is telling them to implement DEI policies, or else they will divest/ sue
>>96432425Of course it’s not going to be, but it gives people cheaper options than GW for similar (if not perfect, but neither is GW) quality
The face be like :^O
>>96432443Yeah true. Blacks are not playing warhammer in any real numbers and that is for various factors but price have never been good for them.
>>96431944I hate shit like smash captains and first turn charges so I guess this is where I land.
>>96432453Yeah but alot of their authors are unironic SJW fags who drink the koolaid and love the DEI shit though. Like ADB.
>>96432501half of thrope's HH books have african throat singers which is pretty cringe tbqh senpai
>>96432509HH was a mistake in general
>>96432453blackrock's shares are held on behalf of their customers who either want to own gw stock, or indexes that include gw stock based on market weighting. blackrock don't actively decide what to buy and sell like that, they're money managers.
>>96432530nah it wasn't, if we didn't have the heresy we would end up having more characters pop up from the heresy into the modern timeline and despite not contradicting anything people would bitch.
>>96432501ADB is nowhere near as bad as Mike "Xe/Xer" Brooks. Brooks has even gone on blusky bragging that he's forcing weird gay shit into his novels and nobody can do anything to stop him.
>>96432414That is what I meant.
>>96432535their CEO litterally did a talk about forcing companies to embrace DEI
>>96432545Based, I hope you think about it all the time. I hope you go to sleep picturing Brooks bald head and ugly mohawk.
>>96432532left is the only one without an ugly ass front. the peephole is embarassing.
>>96431944Somewhere towards the bottom left.
>>96432552Hi Mike!
>>96431977And the good little piggies that you are will keep going OINK OINK OINK OINK
>>96432532Where is Predator Destructor, Baal Predator and Castigator on this scale? Also I object to the Deimos being arch coded. Arch doesn't actually play warhammer for over a decade he just grifts about it.
>>96432081Supreme court are zion don shills and will allow them
>>96432567and your poorfag ass will still be here screeching and crying
>>96432543No, it was a mistake and always will be.
>>96432561I'm in your walls, a successful science fiction author with children and I own a house filled with action figures and wargame miniatures.
>>96432532Land raiders, rhinos and razorbacks is all you need
>>96432567I buy a kit every maybe 2 months, even if they doubled the prices I wouldn't give a fuck because I don't live on welfare checks lmao
>>96432583Just by looking at this I can tell he was the type of fag that wasn't bullied enough.
>>96432583>>96432552the sad thing is I could legitimately believe this is the real Brooks with how petty he sounds
>>96432116I think the worst WAACfaggotry sweaty stuff is all yanks too
>>96432601I met him and he was quite nice and didn't seem like a prick. You guys should touch grass.
>>96432570>Also I object to the Deimos being arch coded. Arch doesn't actually play warhammer for over a decade he just grifts about it.and that grift is "you missed the boat warhammer used to be so cool, although GW was always gigasatan"
I only buy second hand. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
>>96432604>Warhammer fans are progressively becoming teaboos
>>96432604Americans also have constant cheating scandals and judges banning people so their friends can take the 1st place position.
>>96432606yeah you told him how proud you were and how you felt seen with all the gay boys Brook's puts in his stories. You should go back.
>>96432606real punks are usually nice people larping as tough guys besides their questionable fashion choices.Hippies are all self-serving assholes masquerading as nice people
>>96432606That's pretty pathetic, Mike.
>>96432532The wedge will never be good.
>>96432606Most people tend to be much more nicer and cordial in person because there are social repercussions for acting like a petty dickhead.
>>96432344it was a redesign because the fatcast were universally panned
>>96432620Wasn't the recent one a guy who was like a whole dreadnought over 2k? And the tourney operator, his mate, didn't ban him immediately?
>>96432653Do you have pics showing fatcast vs new stormcast? Never understood the difference
>>96432344The reason is that they looked like shit and sold like shit, the exact same reason why manlets got removed.
>>96431977>back in my day Land Raiders were $45>>96432583Why is he important?>>96432584Peak>>96432615My pile of shame is entirely mostly second hand purchases. I don't have any its in boxes, it's all lotsToday I'm actually highlighting the blue on some traitor guard today. I'll post these guys as I clean them up
>>96432604Yes, and the push for a MtG tourneyfag mindset instead of traditional chill wargaming.Remember it every time you see these shitty tables with L-shaped terrain and gaudy objective markers
>>96432654and another one of his friends went on reddit threatening people lmao. brutes and thugs like their leader
>>96432661
>>96431944The only sane and healthy answer is - right in the middle, coordinates: X0;Y0
>>96432661Old Fatcast Liberator on the left vs the newer Stormcast LiberatorBoth of these are meant to be the same unit.Source:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/7KnyolAK/liberators-reforged-heed-sigmars-call-with-the-first-miniature-of-the-new-edition/
I won vs Custodes as GSC, despite the mission being Purge the Foe with me having lots of killable units that come back for more killing vs trying to kill walking tanks.
>>96432688I don't get it, can't you just proxy the fatcast as the newer ones, they are similar enough
>>96432661The old ones look fat, the new ones don't.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96432280who_cares_about_fucking_mold_lines?I learned that they exist only when i began to read this sub daily, like 6 months ago.And i have to say, that i assembled like 20 Kill Team teams and 2x2000 armies for big40k and never cared. And never heard about anyone caring.
>>96432707>cool army beats mary sue gay armyNice.
>11th edition is 9 months away>havent balanced this edition>just to make everyone buy a new codex again>that will itself be outdated within 3 weeks of releasefellas i dont think i like the 40k business model anymore this is wotc shit.
>>96432661the fatcast stuff was just a lot more cartoony, and the armor seemed more like power armor, while the new stuff has more buckles and straps that actually feel like platemail knights armor, as well as more things like furs, chainmail, and chains to make them a bit grittier.another nuance thats not as easy to tell from the photos is that the plates themselves like the pauldrons are thinner as far as material depth, which makes it more like a sheet of shaped metal and less like a thick soggy doughnut of plastic
>>96432707Congrats to you anon. It's a good thing when someone beats Custodes or IK/CKs.
>>96432606
>>96432688>>96432698>>96432720they both look like shit, and I'm not an AoS hater.That armour is terrible, specially the wannabe chainmail
>>96432727>world hurtling towards destruction from a dozen different reasons ranging from ww3, enviromental collapse or that alien ship slowly heading towards earth>this dingbat is worried about a new book he doesn't even have to buy to play (he can use waha instead)
>>96432727 It's always been this way. Most guys play the same army for years so they're not that impacted. You paint a few units each year. Your roster will just keep changing for years. Buying the newer releases, new characters for that faction, redoing squads with modern bitz. Most books are outdated immediately. I wasted money on the Iron Hands codex supplement.
>>96432745It's not chainmail, it's scalemail.
>>96432749doomzoomkinde 3rd edition codexes lasted years not months.
>>96432727>anon discovers GW bussiness model since 1987
>>96432654It was Helbrute, in the army where literally the ENTIRE combo is reliant on the Helbrute. Like, the army quite literally does not function without the Helbrute. The single most important model in the army was just "conveniently" not in the list.
>>96432757Yeah but this wrecked Orks (until their 5th ed release), wolves (5th ed refresh) and most of all, Dark Eldar (a million years)
>>96432727GW is Wotc shit. How do you not see that its the same exact shit?
>>96432757in 3rd ed there were White Dwarf articles and Chapter Approved articles that also made codexes obsolete.>b-but people didn't use them!wrong
>>96432688The fat sigmarines were actually interesting.The issue was that it wasn't warhammer fantasy battles, but if you forget that part, the fat ones actually tried to be something.They weren't WFB, but they were warhammer. If twenty years ago you showed me the two I'd have believed the first was warhammer, the one on the right I'd have called you insane.
>>96432749>MUH WW3 MUH ENVIRONMENT MUH END OF THE WORLDOh my god will you faggots just shut the fuck up already.
>>96432724>>96432734Nah the guy I played against was super chill, would play against in the future. For the first time I ran two units of 20 Neophytes, one with a Primus to act as a regular death star and one with Acolyte Iconward to give the unit 5+ FNP and just parked on the center objective. Iconward didn't do a thing, as all the weapons I faced were 2dmg each but it took a lot of effort to get rid of 20 guys and with OC2 each they held unto that objective till the end.I also brought 20 Neophytes + Primus via Rapid Ingress and placed them behind the Iconward's blob. I was able to kill a few Custodian Guard when they declared charge into the other squad and even though I hit on 6s only, having lethal hits, sustained hits and rerolling everything did some, and they did the same in the next turn. I didn't know about this strategy until very recently, only brought them on my turn to do damage. I was super lucky with the Acolytes to give me an extra CP each round.
>>96432782GW was doing it first, anon.
>>96432767>since 1987Either kirby was killing GW or he wasn't, you gotta pick one
>>96432720>>96432688Something feels weird about the skinny ones
>>96432749But GW is amongt the people responsible for the things you just mentioned, on multiple fronts.
>>96432802both are not good. I don't know why. I can't put it into works. Both are just not "it" dude
>>96432788shut the fuck up, they were corpo mandated garbage. they weren't art or interesting. fuck they were right about this place being full of contrarians
I know most of you don't actually play 40k and are /v/ secondaries but for the few that actually play how viable are beast snaggas on their own?My flgs for sale board had some cheap and for £40 i got some clown painted models to strip:>20 beast snagga boyz>1 units of squig hog riders>beast boss>beast boss on squighog>runtherder>painbossI dont care for the other orks but like their aesthetic. a couple more boyz and riders units plus a rig seems viable in a vacuum but how do they deal with modern shit? i remember 4 years back when they released they were sold as rush in anti armor after all the orkmaris panic died down but havent kept up.
>>96432820No u faggot.Stop putting shit in my mouth you gross cunt, you're the last person that should be calling others contrarians or complaining about the people on this board.
>>96432749
>>96432813>GW is amongt the people responsible for the things you just mentionedEven the alien ship?
>>96432820they're toy-like shit. That's why they don't belong in a miniature scale wargame (like also several 40k models that should not exist, like the ATV)
>>96432814I think it's that the old ones have that look of being shitty WoW bootlegs while the new ones have the silhouette of an anime twink with oversized weapons
>>96432844ESPECIALLY the alien ships, or should I say the Aelians Sheips(tm).
>>96432788>The fat sigmarines were actually interesting.they really weren't they were ugly as fuck the day they were revealed and still are to this day
>>96432832>I dont care for the other orks but like their aestheticthey're goofy AoS shit that doesn't beloing in 40k
>>96432716Some units are different, some units are the same but changed equipment, some units are removed entirely.It's literally like with marines.This was the totality of the minis they got before the new edition, including limited ed stuff
>>96432861christ they had so many one off hero models
>>96432832There's a Beast Snagga specific detachment, I think you can get something out of it. Switch the Detachment to Da Big Hunt to see what they offer.https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/orks/#Army-Rules
>>96432858They are just savage orks with the visual dichotomy of using bionics and the blend of pelts and recycled armor is a nice unique look in 40k. Like if horizon zero dawn wasnt shit.
>>96432857I'm not gonna tell you to think differently if that's what you're getting at.
>>96432861this was what's left of that after the new edition, before the new models
>>96432865They wanted a second space marine range for fantasy and thats how you get it.
>>96432716>can't you just proxy the fatcast as the newer oneThey're literally the same thing. They're both "Liberator". It's not even a proxy thing
>>96432845I always question how someone can want realism from warhammer.
>>96432749>ww3, enviromental collapse or that alien ship slowly heading towards earthliterally none of these are real
>>96432872these are the new models that the new edition added, one way or another
>>96432877>t.chud
>>96432865I wonder what proportions of GW releases are characters.What proportions are HQs, and amongst those which are named characters.In the end most people are not into armies or (pseudo) historicals, they're here for the characters.>Oh no>Not me>(I never lost control)
>>96432885yeah
>>96432881Only three units? Am I seeing this right?
>>96432881uh, forgot these alternative sculpts for one of the new units
>>96431977Looks like I was lucky to start last year and buy so many of the models I wanted already.
>>96432898the basic unit with hammers and the winged unit are direct replacements, in name and fluff, of the previous basic infantry with hammers and winged infantry.
>>96432858Cybersquigs are great. I dislike the bigrig and the named characters, but everything else is fun and slots into a regular ork army as a weird subkultur like kommandos or stormboys just fine.
>>96432858Beastsnaggas are cool but in my headcanon they are specifically what happens when they dont get enough material to build ships or vehicles and are a problem on like hunting worlds used for terran nobles to vacation on.Some real somerset "OI GET T'FUCK OFF MOI LARND" energy compared to the usual Goff "COME ON GAZGULL SCORE A FAKKIN GOAL LAD" vibe
>>96432919So 2 new units, 4 unit kits in total.Out of 16?
>>96432927thats a LOT of drybrushing.
>>96432927I like them as Octarius War vets who now apply the taktik of (krump da biggest one first) to everything.
>>96432940Nigga thats 10 seconds work with 3 colours of rattlecan.Do people not know you can zenithal much faster without being slapchopnigger?
>>96432956Most people here don't paint or even have a single model sadly.
>>96432865>>96432881>>96432898>cull bloated range full of random heroes>next edition rolls around>add more random heroesGW and their fetish for character models never ceases to amaze.
>>96432927>Floiyin inta space? what for y'daft cunt the fuckin squigs can't breath up there you silly sod, fuckin' wierdboyz i tell youns what
>>96432832>runtherderA runtherder but no grots? weirdsquighog riders are decent I think, beast boss on his squigosaur can use Heroic Intervention stratagem for free which is neat
>>96432974I think they just bought everything with the keyword. Neat model but i'll probably stick to the bosses shreiking autistically at the lads to bash harder.
>>96432973>the fuckin squigs can't breath up thereSkill issue. Find a better squig breeder.
>>96432990You work wiv what youns got down in't valley innit lad.
>>96432969>>96432865Don't look at marinesand this image is also outdated by a dozen models too
>>96432969On one hand people love characters and it drives people to buy their modelsOn the other hand if you promote army sized game it pushes people to buy a lot of modelsFood for thoughts
>>96432969Easier and cheaper to design a single character than an unit of 5 or 10 guys. That's why so many units are only 3 dudes now days
>>96432973I do like the idea of a beastboss thats like a flat earther and doesn't believe space is real.
All Orkfags who use childspeak deserve the rope
>>96433019>childspeakfound the septic.
>oll orkfegs who's use dat choildspeek deserv da rope!
2001... we didn't know how good we had it...
>>96433048>Thats ching chong andy, e's a chinky but he's already aren't you andy? see ee's sound as a pound.
>>96433007Is nearly half of this just HQs/characters?I count ~ 56 of them, out of ~92, so roughly 3/5.Jesus Christ.
>>96432876I always question how someone cannot want realism from warhammer. Fuck high fantasy shit and weightless CGI>>96433007That's several different SM ranges since 2017, but most importantly, they sell well unlike Stormcasts
>>96433048Warhammer is unapologetically superior in numerous ways now than in 2001.
>>96433019Seppos be gone
>>96432969it's the cheapest thing they can produce which they can sell for the highest price, and they have normalised limited runs for them to get in fomo.best/worst thing is that every time they interview a new potential sculptor to hire, they get to ask them to sculpt a model, usually a hero, and they keep the rights to the sculpt even if they don't hire the sculptor in the end.Where do you think so many pity heroes and limited ed sculpts come from?
>>96433074Name them, gay boy.
>>96432872>>96432881quality is shit but you get the point. Green is replaced, yellow is underworlds warbands that got rotated out or whatever, orange is sort of replaced but under a different name. Most of the 1st edition stormies squatted just got brought back, it's the weird 2nd ediiton wizard stormcast that got fucked over.
>>96433048They were basedfacing before it was cool
>>96433067>That's several different SM rangesTo gw, it's all one SM range.
>>96433019That's just how bongs speak, anon
>>96433074>Go into store>Get some paints in those octagonal pots that dry shut>Everyone has BO real bad>2 metal minis in a clamshell, need 30 for a unit>Nobody ever has enough models for a full game unless you are one of the rich kid twats nobody likedBut on the plus side shit like Codex Assassins free with White Dwarf. Swings and roundabouts.
>>96433082Can you and the other anon kindly fuck off to your own general? >>96433095Wrong. BT, DA, BA... they're all distinct product lines even if they share vehicles and other stuff
>>96433067Anon the entire point of warhammer is that it’s exaggerated and over the top.
>>96433097I still haven't read that and I want to, I want to see how wild it gets
>>96433081Model Quality/Variation better art and vastly more fleshed out lore Better Rules system with extreme variety for each faction..ect...I could go all day. Stop living in the past.
>>96433067can you show us some of these realistic warhammer models anonoutside of like 4th edition bretonnia and empire I don't think you'll find much
>>96433127>model quality/variationPlease, anon, elaborate.
>>96432722Why do people paint their rhinos with tiny brushes
>>96433149They don't have big brushes, would be my guess.
>>96433090For some reason the one chink isn't basedfacing.
>>96433156Unacceptable.
Enjoy the double price hike usa.
>>96433169I have more models than I know what to do with so I am good.
>>96433127>and vastly more fleshed out loreto the severe detriment of the setting since GW writers suck at answering mysteries satisfyingly (see: the recent grey knights one that was super lame)
>>96433186any answer they would ever give would be shit, thats the issue when the fanbase assumes some things are untouchable mysteries
>>96433138You must be one of those so called firstborn fags
>>96433138NTA Models look better than they did 24 years ago, more factions have more units to work with
>>96432966b-but we have a lot of modelposters!
>>96433169Remind me again what the point of this is.
>>96433254All AI.
>>96432876>>96433122>It's fantasy, that means anything can happen! Wowie! Bing-bing wahoo!40k is complete shit, though, so whatever.
>>96433289>It's fantasy, that means anything can happen! Wowie! Bing-bing wahoo!be sure to ration your pastapoint out
>>96433289>noooo you can’t be creative in the creative hobby, it ruins my PLAUSIBILITY NOOOOEither tourist or you got your dick sucked by some tranny gw manager that coaxed you into warhammer.
>>96433289why the fuck are you even here you filthy chimp?
Hey guys, hope you're all having a nice friday.The last weekend of august is here and we're fast approaching the deadline. Best of luck to those of you still hard at work on your character, I know you can do it. If you've finished your character model you can submit it here by replying to my post. As always I'll look through the archive too but this is the best way to not get missed. Deadline is midnight the 31st est.Here is the vote for next month's collage:https://strawpoll.com/kogjRWDxqg6There has been some complaints and suggestions about the september vote. Kitbashed character is in the lead to win and some are feeling that it's too close to the current theme and that it should be vetoed for the runner up. I don't like to take decisions like this since I feel the decision should be with the thread but I think I've found a solution that works. I'll change the "kitbashed character" option to a more open kitbash theme where you can submit anything kitbashed. That way the people who wanted to kitbash a character can still do so while those wanting something more fresh also get their way. Feel free to share your thoughts on this, thanks guys.
GW should just keep increasing their prices until demand drops enough that their products stop getting scalped.
>>96433233>t. baitfag>>96433236Debatable. You do you.
>>96433336Why would that stop scalping?
>>96433342objectively terminators have better detailing now, the avatar of khaine looks infinitely better, mephiston looks better. Like im all for the old good new bad contrarianism but some models do just look better now.
>>96433127>Model Quality/VariationBetter technically. Having a single medium is good. Design is worse. (detail clutter, try-hard posing, Fisher-Priceification, scenic bases, oversized solo models and "muh centerpieces")>better art and vastly more fleshed out loreNobody at all likes NuHammer art, you dumb fag. Old art still drives the setting.Oil & canvas >>>>> some deviant art shitter using softwareThe "fleshed-out lore" is garbage. GW is run by morons who don't understand the problem of over-exposition. All plot advancemnets have downgraded the setting, and are all zero-stakes bullshit meant to push (crappy) new model lines.>Better Rules system with extreme variety for each factionThe rules have been getting worse ever edition since 4th. "Extreme variety for each faction" is bloat that does not contribute to improved gameplay.Modern 40k is irredeemable.
>>96433350Terminators also have less variation.The Avatar is cool, FW also had great ones.Some things being better is already a lot different than everything is better.>inb4 I didn't say thatI wasn't talking about you.
>>96433349Decreased demand
>>96433308>>96433307>>96433305>Retards who can't comprehend internal plausibility within a fictional setting.
>>96433369Options are going the way of the dodo and its probably for the best.
>>96433048You started after primaris you zoomer
>>96433376Up to what point, dear? Define internal plausibility in the setting where wizard musclemen shoot eye bullets at each other?
>>96433363found the 8thkiddie
>>96433376You don’t even know what the word plausibility meant until I brought it up. You will take the hello kitty marines and you will love them, faggot.
>>96433363>blah blah I'm old and stuck in my ways! why I'm bald?I feel lucky about not having become a boomer parody like youEvery 40k ed had its highs and lows. If you think 4e was perfect, you were not paying attention. modern 40k is okay
>>96433067>I always question how someone cannot want realism from warhammerBecause otherwise you cannot have a sci fi wargame at all, with all its power armored troops and chainsaws and laserswords
>>96433376I get the whole umm what about a honda civic argument but warhammer is one of those settings were a honda civic could actually show up in a codex or bl book and it probably wouldn't even be the fifth most retarded and illogical thing there.
>>96433400Re-read the post, mong. 40k has been in decline (both rules and setting) since the end of 4th. Primarishit were the Rubicon where it becomes irrecoverable.
>>96433377Maybe for you. I tend to think about everyone, I know most people don't.I've seen in a lot in these threads, a lot of the pointless, vapid and caustic "arguments" here boil down to one person facing a problem and another giving them shit because they themselves don't give a fuck and are more than fine with the way things are, with a pinch of pathetic delight in other's issues.I think everyone could be more than happy. But greed.
>>96433420nah it hasn't 8th till now is a direct improvement from 6th and 7th
>>96433411>>96433404Helpful reminder that every single NuHammer defender is a gigasperg, troon, or both.
>>96433400>>96433411>They hated him because he told the truthThanks for proving him right
>>96433376It has been downhill since the late 90s and weighless CGI and anime.There's whole generations that do not see instantly that shit as wrong because they have no concept of the physical world.Stuff like Star Wars being lauded originally for its "lived universe" only to all become shiny green screen shit with the prequels, and animeslop with the sequels. Same for Jurassic Park. Or Terminator, etcPeople seem to have forgotten the idea of making fantastic stuff as grounded as possible to make it more believable (save honourable exceptions like The Expanse)
>>96433432This.I wish they were all just trolls whose hobby is shitposting here, but some of them are genuine.
>>96433432Are you projecting
>>96433432>Helpful reminder that every single anti-NuHammer fag is a gigasperg, troon, or both.FTFYeven normies are better than you
Will also add:>>96433411>If you think 4e was perfectPlease point out where it was claimed that 4th was "perfect."You can't, because that was never claimed. You assumed this claim was made, because you have poor reading comprehension skills. 4th wasn't perfect (no edition had been), but it has been downhill since then.
the best part of 4e was playing its core rules with 3e codexes
>>96433449>>96433456>Once again replies devolve into this.It's tiresome.
>>96433462>it has been downhill since thenno, it wasn'tin fact, 8th ed + indexes was the brief and sweetest high point of any 40k ruleset, everAll the nice things of modern rulesets without the bloat and MtG card game on top
>>96433472What were you expecting? You’re not offering anything of worth to create a meaningful dialogue.
>>96433444All correct (if you want to say 3rd was better than 4th, I won't object. Creatively, RT was peak). The modern media (games and fiction) landscape is a grim situation.
>>96433482Bold, but still bullshit.
>>96433395I literally just turned 18 today, how did you know?
>>96433483>No uIt's tiresome because you all play by the same book. I should start playing bingo with this.At least you're not asking to be taken seriously, so we're not there-there yet.
>>96433482The indexes were a brief moment of light (not the high point), but this was also the introduction of Primarishit. That was the final coffin nail.
>>96433510Your type also plays by the same book.
>>96433504Nta but happy birthday dood.
>>96433515Yeah, being honest and in good faith, guilty as charged, your honor.
>>96433414It's probably be worshipped by a techpriest
>>96433395It doesn't matter how young or old someone is. If they recognize old 40k was superior, they're good. If they know NuHammer is untouchable shit, and despise GW, they're good. If anyone thinks modern 40k is good, they should know that everyone can still see their 5-o-clock shadow, and isn't fooled at all.
>>96433514Primaris was not an issue, old marines were perfectly viable in index 8th unlike now.But you are not a real marinefag, anyway
>>96433530>being honest Wouldn’t call it that
>He's available again>180 day deliveryI was gonna get some misc paint or something to get the free shipping, but I'd rather not wait that long for paints I plan to use. I do'nt suppose these made to order will be available at other shops, will they?
>>96433545Your opinion matters to me, anon.
>>96433414Vehicles that could not physically operate (turrets that couldn't rotate, wheels that couldn't turn, orc helicopters that use rotors to make melee attacks) are a good place to start. "It'S fAnTaSy" is the refuge of the braindead.
>>96433546Nope, unless GW allows your LGS to place MTO orders for their customers. Which no longer is the case, AFAIK
>>96433305>Bing-bing wahoo!Is this some space marine chapter's warcry or something?
>>96433566>"It'S fAnTaSy" is the refuge of the braindead.No. Its the utopia of the people who know how to have fun with a cartoony setting.
>>96432749I believed this shit in my early 20s and grew out of it because nothing ever fucking happens.
>>96433544Correct, I have never collected Marines. That's besides the point, because they are still an integral part of the setting. (Real) Marines may have been "viable," but that's also irrelevant; the problem was that Primaris were created at all.>but dah new models!!!Classic Marines could have been made with re-scaled model kits, just like Chaos Marines. (or HH Marines)
>>96433536>Magos, what have you done? You know it is forbidden to modify a sacred and priceless piece of archaeotech!>Forgive me, Arch-Magos! Its machine spirit was crying out in pain! It was incomplete, Arch-Magos, missing parts->The archaeotech vehicle was "missing" the tailwing of a Thunderhawk gunship and a muffler made from the muzzle of a Leman Russ battle cannon...?>...And a "Type R" sticker, Arch-Magos
>>96433472>insults people with literal buzzwords>people insult him backwoah it really was unexpected
>>96432722Yea.. When you paint like that, it doesn't matter. Oh, and never complain about the price of GW again, your kind could play with paper notes for all that its worth, wouldn't make no difference.
>>96433544Marine player here, wrong on all counts.>viableSo they were worse than the new guys and that's your way of glancing over it?
>>96433599>there's only one person who disagrees with me.ACK yourself, already.
>>96433612I guess the irony of your post went over your head as well lmao
>>96433546they won't wait 200 days to send you your paints
>>96433599>get called out>sperg out againWhy are you the way you are?
>>96433633This goes both ways for both of those parties
>>96433633I am none of the people that replied to you, you fucking schizoid motherfucker, why are you defending a literal shitposting retard anyway
>>96433586Primaris are already updaled classic marines.They're only missing Devastator options and more bits. Only BA fans have any right to complain after their ugly new models.But yeah, funny how the biggest shills against them do not actually play or collect marines.
>>96433414Hell, we have a venerable bar of deodorant that's been serving the imperium for longer than most anons have been alive
>>96433602They weren't worse in 8e index. >but primaris had 2w and the old ones 1w?players kept using scouts for troops, lol
>>96433648It's still being used in games by Rick Priestly (pic taken from his FB)
>>96433644Does it?>>96433645>spergs out, againI tried to help you, anon, I really did.>>96433658>scoutsAnd the rest? glancing over things again?
>>96433647Does anyone actually like Space Marine Aspect Warrior mono-weapon squads?
>>96433517I was being sarcastic but thank you.
>>96433658troops were kinda pointless back then no? so it was just a tax and scouts were the cheapest
>>96433674how is he enjoying 40k 10th edition?
>>96433546What is this guy played as in the new EC sheets?
>>96433680Well I stole your face!
>>96433169You cant make me care about a price hike for something I wasn't buying in the first place
>>96433676>And the rest?they were fine in 8e indexes. You don't rememer vanvets? devastators in drop pods? mmm?Do you ever play marines at all?
>>96433688noise marine with blastmaster
Can you apply airbrush varnish with a brush? Vallejo's 60ml Polyurethane Varnish (26.652) is slightly more expensive than the 18ml bottle (70.522). I got some hazard stripe decals from a friend but the instructions suggest to apply it on a surface that is varnished, then do another coat of varnish afterwards.I do happen to have some varnish in a spray can that I can use as well, if that's going to work.
>>96433696weird way to out yourself as a nomodels>b-but I PROONTno you don't
>>96433697>they were fine>look at this meta shitIncredible. If at least this was coherent with your original claim.
>>96433725I just dont buy them from "Troll Trader" but I appreciate the shitposting anon. Please continue.
>>96433688idk and idc. He's cool and I want to paint him cool.
>>96433677As a hobbyist, and from a realistic PoV? Nofor actual games, any experienced player will not mix weapons in a squad because game mechanics issues, so it hardly has been a difference in practice>Aspect Warrioralso, this is xenofag cope. Primaris units are 40k versions of HH units, they're not eldar at all
>>96432722no offense anon but at this paintjob level I wouldn't care about mold lines either
>>96433749eldar existed before the HH, anon
>>96433708You just made that up
>>96433647>shills against themThat's not what a shill is. What you, on the other hand, are doing IS shilling. Hope that helps.I too like to paint people I don't like as caricatures, it makes me look quite smart and sharp.
>>96433749>Primaris units are 40k versions of HH units, they're not eldar at allMono weapon squads were always an Eldar thing. Face it, Primaris copied them.
>>96431875Do you have Arks of Omen Farsight and Lion? I can't find those two
>>96433767if you're asking if that model has an official datasheet or rules then no. I was just suggesting that is what you can use it as
>>96433647>Primaris are already updaled classic marines.- taller than Chaos Marines- asspulled out of nowhere in a technologically stagnant/regressive Imperium ("No, no, no, they were always there!!"- New vehicles that never existed before- Grav tanks that couldn't have been manufactured before- Magical hover-boots for heavy weapon squads- No more Tactical/Assault/Devastator squadsUp-scaled classic Marines!
>>96433749This, aspect warriors are not just using specific weapons, a guardian with a fusion gun isn't a fire dragon.
>>96433760so did IG and lasgun hordes, that doesn't mean SM designers were thinking about eldar at all.They were thinking about streamlining playing big units with the clunky 40k rulese at the same time they wanted OP units. That's also why the Repulsor had so many stupid guns: it was designed with 3-7th facings and AV in mind.
>>96433775
>>96433784you can't give a squad of 10 guardians 10 fusion guns anyway. you people know what is meant but you're also pedantic faggots who are upset by people using the aspect warrior term that way.
>>96433647>>96433772Kek."Shilling" is advocating against a product in his* mind.*Xis. Its.
>>96433648Nobody advocating for internal plausibility dislikes the deodorant bar. Stuff like that is rad. You are clueless.
Just ordered the metal Warlocks and Farseer. New Farseer, Spiritseer, and four Warlocks for $70.The PLs + Avatar being $125 is kinda smelly though, maybe Karandras will get a release eventually.Hope y'all are having a good Saturday.
>>96433815Then you're fine with an orked up honda civic
>>96432745i don't know how you make an entire faction of armored dudes but have shitty helmetsi don't like these face helmetsthey look creepy, not cooland not even creepy in an interesting way. they;re just a bunch of bald dudes
>>96433835>they;re just a bunch of bald dudesspeaking of, is it just me or has gw stopped making bald/top knot heads?
>>96433797We're agreeing with you in the end my guy
>>96433828Of course. That'd be a valid light vehicle (I've used parts from civiliam model kits to modify Ork vehicles).And at the same time, an Ork helicopter that uses its rotor blades as a melee weapon is stupid. These are not equivalent, and "iT's FiCtiOn!" isn't an excuse.
Plastic picrel when
>>96433796Slop
>>96433888I read "Stop" lol
>>96433880Never, FW stuff is all squatted
>>96433856>an Ork helicopter that uses its rotor blades as a melee weapon is stupidSo GW is noncanon, then?
>>96433350The new Avatar of Khaine model is *technically* better. The design is no better (but no worse, either, I still like the look). The new one is too big, however, because GW can't exercise restraint. The Avatar's power doesn't come from its physical size. Ideally, it should be about midway between the old and the new.>>96433377[disgust]
>>96433082"Remade under different name" could extand to some other things too. Like the 1e bow stormcast. There is still another bow stormcast unit added in 3e. Now you just get 1 profile for bow guys rather than 2 versions of the same thing
>>96433775here you go, anon: > https://gofile.io/d/jxSxMb
feel like I don't like any of the things in 10th editiontheres always a "problem" with some rule, whether its cover, consolidation, how a certain unit works etc, it sucks the fun put of it
>>96433928They own the rights, so that's their call to make. It's still incredibly stupid, and GW should be called out on their stupidity (as should the customers who uncritically buy into this shit).
>>96433945>fartsight
>>96433772>>96433804anti nuMarine shitposting IS shilling when has been done for 8 years by xenofags here that do not even play marines. Or the anti 40k discord raiders
>>96433958It's not going to get better. I'd recommend finding a different, non-GW game.
>>96433945fucking greatthanks
>>96433964That is explicitly not the definition of shilling. You don't know what words mean.
>>96433945>5 books>5 model releasesName the 5 character features for the 10th edition closing campaign. Last one has to be a Primarch.
>>96433559>t.zoomer who is too young to have watched that show
>>96433959I feel like if any rotocraft would be able to use their blades as a weapon, it'd be orks
>>96433783All your points are retarded and out you as out of touch at best, and a liar at worstJust tiresome bs >No more Tactical/Assault/Devastator squadsthis is the only thing with a bit of merit, but you wouldn't get it anyway
>>96433967that's the shame, it won't get better because a majority of the playerbase accepts it, i've been playing 40k for years and nobody locally wants to play an older edition when things were more fun, nor do they want to play a different game
>>96433880Looks like a vagina with a huge clit
>>96433985WazdakkaTorchstar (fanon flame bikini version)The Brawler Ogryn from DarktideVectI dunno any Primarchs, I think John Grammaticus is one? Lets go with him.
>>96433839Have you noticed how new Space Wolfs do not have male pattern bald heads as before? I can smell the design-by-commitee decision driven by furries
>>96433964You know, people can dislike something because it sucks, not because it's not the thing they like.
>>96433989Older versions of the Deff Koptas didn't have a rotor melee attack, because the game designers weren't manchildren. Hail Priestly, hail Ansell, hail Chambers.
>>96433921Nope, primaris still have their Astraeus:https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Astraeus-Super-heavy-Tank-2017
>>96434028It's goofy as shit to be sure, I'm just saying if anyone would trying to turn a helicopter into a flying blender it's orks.
>>96434004Urm, based?
>>96434027why the fuck are you here if you don't like the major part of the biggest faction in the setting
>>96433989>>96434028>>96434039Put a huge buzzsaw on the front of the koptaz
>>96433983>>96434027It's shilling when it's insincere, and repeated over years with the same talking points.You shills do not care at all about marines, or you wouldn't be parroting bs from 2017 no longer relevant in 2025
>>96433991the admech wouldn't impart the secrets of their technological monopoly over to the second strongest organisation of the imperium they would have techpriests working under the church instead of nuns learning their stuff
>>96433985Kaldor DraigoHuron BlackheartPrince YrielKaptin BadrukkLeman RussWith Vashtorr's help, Huron successfully enters the Webway with his Blackstone Fortress. This sends a ripple effect which creates new, unnatural entrances into the Webway throughout the galaxy, while also allowing the Warp to leak into the Webway more as old sealed off passages are re-opened. This allows Badrukk and Draigo to enter respectively, while Yriel amasses several Corsair fleets to enter the Webway to destroy the Freebooters and Red Corsairs.As the conflict escalates, Russ himself appears and assists Draigo and Yriel with destroying Huron's blackstone fortress. Draigo returns to the Warp and Russ remains with Iyanden's forces as a 'guest', with the implication of him and Yriel having gay sex.
>>96434065You're only here because you like primaris marines?
>>96433994Behold, up-scaled classic Marines!
>>96433985Prince YrielKaptin BadrukkAsdrubael VectHuron BlackheartLeman Russ
>>96434073Russ is a bear with no time for twinks, anon
>>96434034I still don't get this thing, why have such a huge ass tank carry those small guns? can't you place those on a smaller tank? can't you have it also be a transport? or mount a way bigger gun?
>>96433985>HURON BLACKHEART>LADY MALYS>KAPTIN BADRUKK>PRINCE YRIEL>LEMANN RUSSPlot focuses around a faction of the Dark Eldar allying with the Red Corsairs to help them get up to some chicanery in the Imperium Nihilus to some end to help both unlikely allies find an edge against their superiors by unearthing an ancient War in Heaven superweapon from the sleeping Necron Tombs that Malys knows the location of. Badrukk gets there first and wakes everyone up to start a big fight. Yriel come in to try to protect the Exodites living in the region. It's all a plot hy Cegorach to free Lemann Russ from a temporal loop and the Wolftime begins.
>>96434067I've actually got spare killsaws from my deff dread kit, that might be fun. That said, the deffkopta kit is filled with "unrealistic" nonsense like rocket powered rotary blades. Drawing the line at rotary melee attacks seems awfully arbitrary to me.
>>96434082Russ is a subby fake-powerbottom that got powertopped by a fair-haired twunk thobeight.
>>96434004Those space marines literally won't know what they're looking at.
>>96434070I feel if someone didn't care about something they'd have stopped talking about it the week it went away.Nearly a decade shows a lot of care.Shilling is promoting a product, not just insecerity.And lastly, if something was true 10 years ago, it's still true 10 years later.
>>96434078>marines cannot get new units because I say so, okay??lol
>>96434102Centurions were mocked to hell on release and considered the worst marine models ever until primaris dropped, tho.
>>96434073>>96434080>>96434090SW got the biggest refresh this edition. There will be no Leman Russ.
>>96434102centurions fit the marine aesthetic a million times more than primaris
>>96433959You just hate fun anon.
>>96434065>You don't like everything about the main faction in the setting so you should fuck offDo you know how stupid you sound, anon? Face it, a significant portion of Primaris marines are fucking stupid. They either look stupid or their rules are stupid, or both. Defend this kit, I dare you.
>>96434071>the second strongest organisation of the imperiumThat would be the Navis Nobilite houses, not the Ministorum.
>>96434091>"unrealistic" nonsense like rocket powered rotary bladeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX-911v7BHk&ab_channel=VerticalFlightSocietyI have news, anon, big green and mean news.
>>96434102>upscaled>newGoal posts: moved
>>96434039Sure, but more to the point, nobody should, because the concept is too stupid for anything but a suicide attack.>>96434070"Shilling" is about advocating for a product, under the premise of impartiality.Calling out a game/setting/product line as garbage is by definition not shilling. You velcro-shoe-wearing troon. You have no friends, and nobody will miss you.
>>96434121I cant defend the firstborn variant either desu anon
>>96434138>he cant defend devastatorsthe fuck?
>>96434111Prepare for Primaris Millenians
>>96434135>because the concept is too stupid for anything but a suicide attack.Orks survive suicide attacks all the time
>>96434138What's the firstborn variant of the desolation squad?t. clueless
>>96434101Shilling can totally be about bringing down something one doesn't like.Like eldarfags seething at marines, for example. Which is common here.Or deluded fake grogs investing their ego in their old models.Or discord trannies that hate being denied becoming marinesOr any other amount of terminally online retards shitposting for yousThere's nothing organic about the antiprimaris shitposting going on here. Real old marinefags moved on to HH or retro editions.
>>96434148I'm still sad that the new tankbustas aren't really tankbustas, they're like hardboys but you can give them missiles
>>96434155>bixnood the nefariousposting
>>96434102I legitimately don't get why people dont like these. Its just an exosuit.
>>96434135>pedantic word gamesshut up, shill
>>96434155Or you're the troll, that's a pretty good explaination.
>>96434168Agreed. Fuck that guy
>>96434102Centurions were also retarded, and have been ridiculed to hell accordingly.Primaris™ Suppressors® have magic hover boots that let them fly while using heavy recoil weapons. They are even *more* stupid than Centurions (which shouldn't be possible). Suppressors are not "upscaled classic Marines," as with the rest of the Primaris line, you disingenuous moron.>>96434115>fun means anything can happen!
>>96434148Does the Deff Kopta get destroyed after making a melee attack? No? Then it's not comparable.
>>96433985Abaddon againFulgrimVashtorr againThe Silent KingGulliman
I think there's a lot of potential for orks by looking at the kind of things people come up with.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO32oDZQWJs&ab_channel=VerticalFlightSociety
>>96434102These were worse than anything primaris got
Did Astartes Centurions exist during the Horus Heresy or are they a newer invention in the lore?
>>96433317Terminator Chaplain for the collage. Thanks collage anon for making me finish my models
>>96434212woah you sure showed him
>>96434203Back when the centurions came out I remember the fluff being that they were a recently rediscovered STC.But with the new saturnine terminators in Horus Heresy one could argue centurions kinda existed back then.
>>96434160The only problem with them is the proportions. EonsofBattle did a really good conversion and they look infinitely better
>>96434203looks like they came up during the age of apostasy
>>96434171Suppresors are fine as a concept, and you apparently don't know that they do have thrusters and grav plates. Their details are just badly executed. The point of centurions was to illustrate that Marines getting new units was nothing new. Like Stalkers or laspreds. So it's retarted to use that as an argument against primaris, moron>>96434203They are M36+ stuff
>>96434150Devastators with missile launchers
>>96434171>>fun means anything can happen!Yes>chad.jpeg
>>96434156I'm mixed on em, myself. Wreckas are nice and I think they're excellent models, but as you said they're not exactly a proper tankbustas replacement either. I really wish we got wreckas AND tankbustas instead of the weird mixed squad KT leftovers.
What is the deal with the thread today.
>>96434253nothing wrong with them, unlike your retarded desolation marines, faggot.
>>96434262the quality always drops on weekends
>>96434224God these look so shit.
>>96434265I haven't participated in this argument at all, I just answered a question
>>96434262tourists coming over the price hikes
>>96434253What's wrong with them?>>96434261This, I think wreckas are cool but I'd rather have build them as such and find another way to do tankbustas.They feel different enough to be a separate thing, so why not?
>>96434275>only secondaries and tourists are worried about the price hikes. us true fans love them!
>>96434267Not usually this bad though. It's usually only like this when a reveal happens
>>96434262Today?
>>96434251>the disadvantage of heavy weapon squads is a lack of mobility>the disadvantage of mobile squads is a lack of power or protectionSomeone post the meme image.Also, you don't understand the concept of recoil.>Buh duh thrusters! Duh grav plates!
>>96434282well then the prices hikes for easy shitposting
>>96434262anti 40k shills do not like to be outed
>>96434277I don't think anything is wrong with them someone just asked what the equivalent was and answered.
>>96434281I mean I dont think the price hikes affected darktide or twwh so yeah?
>>96434299so yeah what? a darktide player is going to have strong opinions about 40k models going up 5 dollars?
>>96434257Guess what, I've got the scoop on a new unit! Space Marine Pillow-fighters! An elite, melee-oriented squad wielding deadly pillows!>"What? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of"No, see, they're SPECIAL WEAPONIZED PILLOWS. With gravitic force-enhancers! Totally kewl! I mean, it's all fantasy, so why not?? Why do you hate fun?
>>96434312Thats fucking kino anon. you got anymore concepts?
>>96434312I wonder if this retard realizes how desperate he sounds lmao
>>96434294Oh, I getcha
>>96434155>nothing organicIt's the other way around purely because the other way around benefits GW's bottom line.
>>96434285rule of cool > videogamey shit>muh recoilagain you out yourself. I smell an IG fag. Imagine thinking that marines cannot handle autocannons, lol
>>96434321>>96434323He's right tho.
>>96434323naw he has you fags by the balls.
>>96434226>EonsofBattle did a really gooddoubt
>>96434330>muh bottom lineyou seethe at marines because you want daddy GW to pander to your faction, lol
>>96434312>No, see, they're SPECIAL WEAPONIZED PILLOWS. With gravitic force-enhancers! Totally kewl! I mean, it's all fantasy, so why not?? Why do you hate fun?Isn't that just power fists?
>>96434356Actually that'd be the concussion gauntlets from the leagues of votann
>>96434344idk man you tell me
>>96434336The inherent, immutable compromise of using heavy weapons is a lack of mobilityThe inherent, immutable compromise of rapid movement is a lack of either protection or firepower>LOL RULE OF KEWL HOVER-BOOTS! WOWIE ZOWIE!!!You don't play a wargame; you're smashing toys together. Faggot.
>>96434312I don't think you understand that just because anything can happen it doesn't mean said anything is automatically cool.an ork using an helicopter's blades as a melee weapon is cool and fun, a pillow as a weapon may be fun but it's not cool.
>>96434356Power fists are made of metal. The combat pillows are made of cotton. Feather-stuffing is an optional upgrade.
>>96434374Nta but I prefer picrel
>>96434391>Power fists are made of metalDoes it really matter when the ebin sci-fantay macguffin field is the thing doing all the damage? Power Pillows are also still less gay than the Yiffsled
>>96434374>we took something shit and made it marginally less shit
>>96434374Nta but my brain cannot register what he did to change these but it can identify that the proportions on the left are better. Only thing I can see is the hip armour plates are gone but they look better for sure
>>96434377Are you angry about the concept or about the rules? because the rules already balances their durability, firepower and mobility just fine and conceptually they already wear lighter armor and have lesser jump packs that visually mark them out as less mobile and less armoured than other flying units.You're mad about the unit because it's relatively new, thus bad, and working backwards to justify your knee jerk reaction.
>>96434374I actuallt kinda prefer the originals. Maybe i just have shit taste.
>>96434419He bulked out the hip and leg joint. >the proportions on the left are betterHuh?
Isnt this retard basically just asking for tacticool shit like phobos
>>96434382>an ork using an helicopter's blades as a melee weapon is cool and funProvided that the kopter crashes and gets destroyed immediately after, but that's probably not a good use of the kopter even by Ork thinking.>a pillow as a weapon may be fun but it's not cool.It's actually not fun at all, it's just retarded. That was the point.>>96434406>Power Pillows are also still less gay than the YiffsledThey're about matched. Unfair the the pillows to put them up against anything Space Wolves.
>>96434413NTA but some things I noticed:>the heads are lifted out of their weird little pit>legs are less stiff/more dynamic>less greebles to make the model cluttered>no hip plates>better paintjob goes a long way
What kits have a lot of these helmets w/ 4 toobs going into the faceplate?
>>96434432I don't think he's asking for anything besides (you)s
>>96434446>hisss i've been found outExpect him to do this ^ and sperg out
>>96434424>Maybe i just have shit taste.Correct.
>>96434441Oh it's the head height that makes them have such a different silhouette, good call
>>96434413Looking at his video the fundamental of the conversion seems fairly simple, it's just thickening of the crotch to space the legs apartthen he cut the various legs plates so they can be glued slightly lower and without the extra hip shields
>>96434419The problem is that the entire concept is retarded and only a child or terminal sperg would look at that shit and think otherwise. ACK yourself.
>>96434377>The inherent, immutable compromisevideogame brain bs with no basis in reality. That's why you got unnecesary Gravis and Phobos. The "Heavy" and "Light" soldier meme shit is the fault of normies like you.You also still don't get that Suppressors have fucking grav plates and thrusters. They're more more like one man landspeeders.You've clearly not read Appleseed like their designer did.Their aesthetics suck, but that's another story
When did Sanguinary Guard decide to start wearing masks?
>>96434443Hellblasters
>>96434466>it's just thickening of the crotch to space the legs apartHuman (or post-human) anatomy couldn't fit in that.
>>96434474Probably after their primarch died. They're death masks you know.
>>96434474>Death mask of SanguiniusI dunno, anon.
>>96434443There aren't any in the basic intercessor and assault intercessor kits
>>96434474These guard look so much better than the 5th edition shit.
>>96434474is that Sebastian Stan?
>>96434474Aren't those death masks? After sanguinius died I assume, wish I had some concrete fluff for you.
>>96434474In the books, they were already doing it when Sanguinus was alive in remembrance of their fallen. In illustrations, only after his death
>>96434440>Provided that the kopter crashes and gets destroyed immediately afterThat's not how orks work, they keep on trucking even when their stuff should reasonably fall apart and their stuff is exceptionally effective even when it seems like standard slabs of metal.Your argument is so absurd you would have orks not exist in the setting at all because you substituted the setting's internal logic with your biases that miss the point of the setting dramatically.>It's actually not fun at allYou just proved you're out of touch with what's fun, next you'll tell me fun is a buzzword.
>>96434469>caring about setting logic is videogameyVideogame faggotry is why shit like this exists in the first place, because dorks have lost all touch with physical reality. I don't care about your manga series.
>>96434484Absolute legend, thank you.Here's a Salamanders patch I made for a buddy.
So would this anon be opposed to bikini armor?>htray
>>96434517what part of anti gravitity tech you don't get? You seethe also at servo skulls? lol
>>96434468>actually I have no argument but if you disagree with me you're a poopoo headgreat post, anon
>>96434526Very based
>>96434496>>Death mask of SanguiniusThat's just Dante's. The SGs wear masks fashioned in the likeness of previous wearers. Or at least they used to before they all started wearing Primaris gear off the rack.
>>96434516>Your argument is so absurdOrk Kopters in older editions didn't have melee rotor attacks. Because the game designers weren't dipshits.>ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN CUZ ORKS BELIEVE ITAgain, no.
>>96434526That's really cool anon and you're obviously a good friend.
Just one day left until the collage deadline. Good luck to all of you still painting, I know you can do it.
>>96434501Were their weird ass kneepads ever explained?
>>96434532>In-setting, anti-grav tech exists in some form, therefore it can exist in any form...>IRL, we can build black boxes that survive a plane crash... "Why not make the entire plane a black box, LOL?"
>>96434565>"Why not make the entire plane a black box, LOL?"no but seriously why not do that
>>96434533>what is mass>what is balance>what is recoil
>>96434555I only need to paint like 20 gems that I'm absolutely sick of and do the base so I'm gonna make it
>>96434545Neat. Didnt know that. Still, must be sometime after Samguinius died. Cant really say when exactly though.
>>96434555Ty king, just basing stuff now
>>96434474When did the Blood Angels invent angelsteel?
>>96434559Isn't it just a terrible attempt at replicating the details of a knee?
>>96434549>Because the game designers weren't dipshitsNo, it was because the game was simpler and the model could fight exclusively with what they had in hand.The unit type did get "impact hits" in a way at points.And just because rules didn't implement such a thing it doesn't mean it didn't happen, do you think noone of the stormboys explode with their rocket jump packs? despite it being almost suicidal and impractical?>CUZ ORKS BELIEVE ITno, it's because orks make it sturdy enough to withstand impacts, and the engines efficient enough to provide lift despite the weight and visibly unreasonable proportions.Just like they have melee weapons capable of opening power armors.
>>96434603As the text says, it was in use before the HH. Like in pic related
>>96434603>The ultramarines sword? ultrasteel>Salamanders? Adamantium Salloy>Iron Hands? Ferrusteel>Imperial fists? Fisteel
>>96434577>>what is mass>>what is balance>>what is recoilstuff that gets accounted for by the flight equipment they're wearing.
>>96434624>injected with magic twunk genes>still suffers male pattern baldness
>>96434577Go watch more Mauler videos, dumbass.
>>96434631>SW? Wolfboners
>>96434631>>Iron Hands? FerrusteelThey have something called ironglass, but they seem to use that only for interior design and arts & crafts.
>>96434651>Made from wolf drilling
>>96434661Lmao that guy will never live that down
Working on a gravis captain.Planning to cover right pauldron with purity seals, what else should I do to him?
>>96434440It does say that the Orks who ride Deffkoptas are viewed as lunatics even by Ork standards
>>96434659Man the jokes write themselves
>>96434669Get rid of those hands.
>>96434669>"You there! Get ready to be fisted!"
>>96434668You don't paint the insides of your wolves?
What if charlus sheenus met one of the clones Fabius bile made of him and they both said twinning. Is this anything
>>96434669repose him
>>96434517>I don't care about your manga series.Youi're an uncultured swine - But the guy who designed suppressor did.
>>96434699that was the inspiration lol, got about as close as I could with the bits I have access to
>>96434669You should model some freak to carry his weapons
>>96434669Its giving aggressive drunk dad at his son's youth sports game
>>96434577>what is engineering
>>96434720Pshh I could do that
>>96434717boltor and sword are planned to be shattered/scattered on the base.I already have a power fist loadout and I want to use this guy as the bolt rifle variant
>>96434622There is nothing about the "simpler older design"* which would have precluded Koptas having a rotor melee attack. Old GW designers (the founding staff) had a background in historical wargames, history, and literature. Nu designers know about Warhammer. They don't read at all, or if they do, it's genre-fiction/Black Library trash. Their outside inspirations are superhero movies and video games. They are beardo soijak faggots. The old designers were smarter, more sensible, and most of all, less under the boot of the business side of the company.>no, it's because orks make it sturdy enough to withstand impacts(see the black box quote):>>96434565*complexity means shoving in countless stratagems and book-based special abilities. That's good design!
Weekly reminder Secret Santa signupa are active. Signups close on September 20. See the OP for the docs link.
>>96434559I assume it's meant to resemble an exposed knee bone or soemthing.
>>96434638Again,>In-setting, [tech] exists in some form, therefore it can exist in any form>>96434649Don't know what you're talking about. Won't look it up. Also, you're a faggot. >>96434720>the same thing
>>96434749their old designers left, became BL writers, or are still at the company, lke a dude called Jes Goodwin you probably have never heard about, hipster faggotSuppressors are probably based in a classic manga mecha suit from the early 90s >>96434704, but you also know nothing about it , just like you know nothing about marines
>>96434753I don't see a whole lot of friendship and camaraderie going on in this thread atm
>>96434787 anti grav tech explains it all, but you really don't want to admit you're wrong. If anything, it should be more common. Remember "suspensors", fake grog?
We frigpostan, we frenspostan>high resolution belowhttps://files.catbox.moe/i4dvjb.png
>>96434749>There is nothing about the "simpler older design"* which would have precluded Koptas having a rotor melee attackYes it would, it would have required atypical special rules that work specifically outside the framework provided by the unit profile and the precedents of the unit type.Your black box quote doesn't make a single valid point, you're arbitrarily choosing to ignore what orks are shown to be capable of and are instead forcing your biases for what should be "realistic" for them.But your bias would eventually write orks as they are almost entirely out of the setting, because you don't actually get the setting.
>>96434830Why am I banned
>>96434866You can't slop if you have no models :^)
>>96434465Yeah, it's probably the smallest change that makes the biggest difference
>>96434800Jes Goodwin did amazing work, but today he's phoning it in and collecting checks (he did good work by being conservative with the new Eldar models, so credit there, I guess)Rick Priestly left the GW because he was disgusted by the lack of care for games, and cutthroat pursuit of profit. He started Warlord games, and has been doing great stuff since, happy for him.What's it like being GW's bitch, Anon?
>>96434787>>In-setting, [tech] exists in some form, therefore it can exist in any formThat statement makes absolutely no sense, you are denying that something could exist arbitrarily for no reason.Grav chutes have been a thing in the setting all along, so are jump pack thrusters and similar, the very backpacks marines have could be fitted as small jetpacks once.
>>96434820>Anti-grav exists, therefore it can exist in any form. >fake grogTroon phrase.
>>96434815Tbh there doesnt seem to be much interest in it. I figured it would be best to do signups in summer to avoid issues closer to xmas but maybe its just too early.
>>96434830Hey fridge anon, is it possible to swap a model I have on the fridge for a different one?
would iyandan yellow over imperial fist make for a good orange?
>>96434876Rick left with a big bag of money to build his own company. It's ridiculous to make him an underdog misunderstood game designer. He's been a businessman since the 80s, ffsI don't like part of what GW does, and I like some of what they do. But they're a company, and i pick and choose what I want.Meanwhile, here I have to read retarded hot takes from pseud morons that should shut up and lurk more.
>>96434887>Anti-grav exists, therefore it can exist in any form.Correct. Next>fake grogaccurate description of retarded wannabe oldfags like you
>>96434919>bitch noisesThats what I thought
>>96434931>reeeeeeGo back to your discord
>>96434839>they wanted to have rotor attacks in-game, but it was just too hardA helicopter that strikes a solid object with a rotor blade is going to crash. No amount of in-setting, space-copter magical Ork tech can plausibly change that. This is beyond what is established as possible or plausible insetting, and does not deprive Orks of anything, *because the precedent was already there in earlier editions written by non-retards*.>>96434881Strange, none of them seem to be wielding guns the size of themselves, or balancing on gay hover boots.
>>96434555Checked.
>>96434959>A helicopter that strikes a solid object with a rotor blade is going to crashand an helicopter that has rotor blades that small is not going to fly in the first placeyet the orks' do both, because they're not normal helicopters, the orks build them differently.if you think it's not realistic it's, again, because you're choosing to ignore what orks are shown to be capable of and are instead forcing your biases for what should be "realistic" for them.
>motivation to hobby risingAw yea 'ere we go
>>96434959>Strange, none of them seem to be wielding guns the size of themselvesLook better
>>96434919...he's also done interviews explaining how his passion for game design was being constrained by an increasingly avaricious GW ownership. The old guard are gone, a couple are left phoning it in (Goodwin). Everyone there now is a hack. >>96434929>The Imperium can make servo skulls that hover, therefore (prior to Primarishit) they could've easily built 100-ton grav-tanks, they just chose not to, because... well, because!
>>96434959nta, but deff coptas probably use some kind of anti grav tech like almost all 40k flying vehicles/troops. Otherwise they could hardly fly.That would make their rotors blades more of a HL2 anti-zombie style melee weapon, as retarded as it sounds
>>96435001>posts image of Marines using weapons smaller than Suppressor™ autocannons
>>96435005They've had antigrav landspeeders for forever thobeight. Or John Land's Speeders, as it were.
>>96434555I read this as college deadline and got scared for the anons still in school.
>>96435005Ruick is overrated and always was. He stopped being relevant by 3e.You also don't know about Maxime Pastourel or the others. Just endless old gud new bad nonsense.
>>96435017You asked for marines wielding weapons as tall as them and there you have them, they're arguably even heavier than said autocannons in instances.They also fly btw.
>>96435036You fucking made that up!
>>96435008Possibly, though that'd be a post-hoc justification, since it's never been mentioned before. Also, pointless to be a helicopter at that point.>>96435024Exactly, a landspeeder is a lightweight vehicle very different from a battle tank or armored transport. Even then, grav-tech is difficult enough that it's only available to Marines, and not Guardsmen, even though it would be extremely useful. This illustrates in-setting Imperium technological limitations, instead of "it exists in one form, therefore it can exist in any.>>96435031>old good new badIt's funny, this was originally used on /tg/ as a statement of derisive sarcasm, but as it turns out, it's a legitimate maxim.
>>96435045No, I didn't.
>>96435066Its not fair!
>>96435060>and not Guardsmenwrong
>>96435085
>>96435090
>>96434866Not me fyi, some faggot who’s bored
>>96435094
>>96435101
>>96435060>pointless to be a helicopter at that point.not if they are a cargo cult thing, which suits orks> in-setting Imperium technological limitationsThe imperium uses anti grav at all levels. It's limitations are political and theological, not a matter of engineering. That's why the Admech has lots of Duneriders, but it's stingy about SM getting jetbikes. Even if necromunda gangbangers have to issue getting their hands on them.Thunderhawks and other flyers also use anti grav tech. It't a basic trope of the genre.
>>96435036You circled [jump packs] for Tac. Squads, as if that means anything. The Devastators aren't using autocannons, aren't flying around with magic boots. Those old models aren't equivalent.Suppressors are dumb and should never have been made. Liking them means you are a child, or a moron.
>>96435126>You circledI didn't, I found the image like thatIf I had made the image I would have circled mario
>>96435126>Devastators aren't using autocannonsyou don't know shit about marine units
>>96435099
>>96435126>The Devastators aren't using autocannonsYes, they are, they call it reaper, it's right there.>aren't flying aroundYes, they are, the image proving it is right there.>Suppressors are dumbYou keep falling back to this but fail to provide any reason that stands to scrutiny, you're in denial.
>>96435085The age and rarity of these supports the point.>>96435123The AdMech make the tech, so it's natural they'd try to keep things for themselves, but it's also challenging enough to produce that everyone else rides on wheels/treads. This wasn't common during the Crusade period, either, despite the obvious advantages of hover vehicles. The Necromunda jetbikes were clearly a mistake, or else you'd see them more often among armed forces instead of impoverished street gangs. 40k Imperial aircraft are goofy, but operating on separate logic.
>>96435126>muh magic bootsrepeating this again and again just proves that you lie or you have never seen the back of these models
My next addition for my Astral Claws army I'm currently workin on
>>96435172>40k Imperial aircraft are goofy, but operating on separate logic.they use the same logic of xeno aircraft too: lots of antigrav and thrusters
>>96435174Nice, but AFAIK technically illegal loadout, anon. They never were able to use the lower guns at the same time as the typhoon MLs (even if I agree they should have)
>>96435172>The age and rarity of these supports the point.You're mistaking decisions done to visually separate ranges with logical decisions about the settings' internal workings.Do you think the lack of miniatures for regiments other than cadian, catachan and krieg means the other regiments don't exist or are rarer? Or that they are all identical in the tools they use and ways they operate?
>>96435197Derp, you're right. I will have to rip the cannon off.
>>96435214bruh fuck that shit, just put on whatever looks cool
>>96435251I actually couldnt get it off, so I removed the door with missiles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u49L-Nu0gGo
>>96435307nobody cares
>>96435060I think the fact that Deffkoptas had buzz saws on the bottom was forgotten or misinterpreted at some pointOr they made a new model and didn't want to add in the buzzsaw and just said fuck it they can use the helicopter blades
>>96435307shit character for a shit faction
>>96434905Yeah we can do that for sure. Just post a pic of the new model next to the old model so I know who you are and then reply to that post with the pic you want to swap in. I want to make sure that people are who they say they are and aren't covering up people they had a disagreement with at some point.
>>96435359Cool, thanks. I'll do that once I actually finish the guy I want to swap in
>>96435307fuck off with that troon coded faggot
>>96432598>I will gladly keep feeding GW's repugnant business just to show I'm not poor!You're the ideal consoomer.
>>96435136>>96435155RT gave a whole menu of possible options, this doen't mean all options are meant to be combined. Also, a jump pack isn't flight, it is jumping from spot to spot, not using heavy weapons mid-air. They didn't have flying marine squads with autocannons. Pic related, the 3rd ed. Codex formalized everything. Havocs can take limited autocannons, no jump packs.>>96435142>on footStop posting.>>96435173No shit they have jet packs. The boots were a 8th ed. asspull. A guy in heavy power armor, using a weapon heavier than himself while balancing on grav boots is dumb because it contradicts the limitations of the capabilities of grav tech already established. To say nothing of staying balanced while doing so.
>>96435371It’s genuinely amazing how persistent autists like the ec throoder and pakfag made us hate the factions they shilled just because of the autists they would be associated with.Now it is the arbites he’s working on. Is this the plan?
>>96435377>shitposting at a 6 hour old postjust kys at this point
>>96435384Kinda true honestly, I didn't much care for EC but now I genuinely hate anything Slaanesh because of that faggot
>>96435386>if you don't consoom you might as well kys
>>96435408trying too hard
>>96435379> it contradicts the limitations of the capabilities of grav tech already established.no, it doesn't, that's you making shit up>To say nothing of staying balanced while doing so.pencil neck nerds trying to talk about physical activity should stay in their lane. But you're neither, just a smart ass unable to admit being wrong about everything
>>96435379>Also, a jump pack isn't flight, it is jumping from spot to spotNogames spotted
I miss old /40kg/
>>96435207>decisions done to visually separate ranges with logical decisions about the settings' internal workings.The two are intertwined. The need to establish different model ranges informs the setting's internal workings. This doesn't mean the property rights holder can't come out at any time and make retroactive claims, but doing so undermines the integrity of the setting.Obviously there are other Regiments, but that is different from established IG Regiments not being depicted with grav vehicles or having grav vehicles available in-game. (rare exceptions not disproving the rule aside). Grav-tech is rare and limited, and does not scale up easily from small objects (like servo skulls, which are comparatively simple to produce).
>>96435379>RT gave a whole menu of possible options, this doen't mean all options are meant to be combinedIf the options are there, they're meant to be used.>Also, a jump pack isn't flight, it is jumping from spot to spotSame as what the suppressors do.Blow it out your ass.
>>96435429>but doing so undermines the integrity of the setting.only if they're not properly contextualised, suppressors are>Grav-tech is rare and limited, and does not scale up easily from small objectsand yet it's absolutely used and infantry models are small objects
>>96435363Look forward to it fren
>>96435428I don't know what you mean by "old" but it was probably a public urinal back then too.
>>96435422Strange, he's not firing an autocannon.You are 50% body fat. Sweating in your chair while trying to scratch your ass is the only physical activity you perform.>>96435441>>96435425>a Marine with a jump pack is the same as a marine with a jump pack and grav boots. >Same as what the suppressors do.Imagine them landing and walking around on those boots and not clumsily falling over. Imagine anyone firing that autocannon mid-air with any accuracy and not being blown back. Imagine anyone using it on foot using those gay boots.
>>96435467>I don't know what you mean by "old"Before you came along
>>96435471Imagine a cow rotating in your head.You most probably can't do that either.
>>96435461I'd say nothing about Primaris is properly contextualized; it broke the setting. Drop troops aren't flying, they allow assisted landings and enhanced jumping.
>>96435481Imagine defending modern GW. Imagine defending Blackrock.
>>96435428Lol, you go go look at the archives from 10 years ago and still find the occasional thread like this during the big lulls in between relevant news for the game. There's just nothing of substance to focus on so most conversations will naturally be unsubstantial.
>>96435402this is actually what they mean by rent free. if you stop liking something you liked because of someone intentionally trolling you they won.
>>96435471>>a Marine with a jump pack is the same as a marine with a jump packYes>>Imagine them landing and walking around on those boots and not clumsily falling overHave you missed that all space marines have had unwieldy oversized boots all along?>Imagine anyone firing that autocannon mid-air with any accuracy and not being blown backThey are marines with superhuman strength, reflexes, power armor, targeting equipment and they got thrusters, dude.You do understand the thrusters can be used for more than just staying up, right? You're not that dumb, right?
>>96435495I never liked them, just didn't care for them either way.
>>96435490I'm not defending gw, I'm attacking your shoddy arguments.
>>96435485>I'd say nothing about Primaris is properly contextualizedyou'd be wrong in saying that>it broke the settingnot any more than it was already, you were just too hypocritical to realise it>Drop troops aren't flying, they allow assisted landings and enhanced jumping.just like suppressors, except they do it more because they have more powerful packs
>>96435485>nothing about Primaris is properly contextualizedFor you, because you haven't read anything about them. but we're no longer in 2017>>96435490This is not about GW, is about you being wrong and retarded in the Internet
Anybody working on anything or have a good weekend game yet?
>>96435546I was gonna keep working on my sternguard today, but that never happened. Tomorrow for sure. Send help I'm batching 3 of them and I get like 1 color done per day across the 3 of them
>>96435546Fuck off.
>>96435504>doood! they're superhuman, that mean the equipment doesn't matter! Anything can happen!Note: inceptors©, not Suppressors©, but the boots are the same. Try to picture anyone walking around and fighting in these.alos note: the word "Inceptor" means a beginner, or someone intitiating some process. Another nonsense, lawyer-friendly name, like the rest of Primarishit. This is what you people are defending.
How effective of a commissar would he be?
>>96435556Any particular reason it’s giving you such a hard time? Not a fan of the colour?
>>96435525>just like suppressors, except they do it more because they have more powerful packsAnd they can't even walk.>>96435525>This is not about GWImagine needing to wear velcro shoes.
>>96435573he'd be getting his spine ripped out while hes in the middle of trying to rape some vulnerable men
>>96435573he would be trash
>>96435573Poor. He’d get executed for fucking his own troops and trying to extort money from them. He’s probably not a physical coward so there’s a chance he’d at least be good enough to push some squads through a meat grinder a few times.
>>96435559>the equipment doesn't matterIt matters, but it's taken into account>Try to picture anyone walking around and fighting in these.Have you tried actually looking at them? They don't extend significantly past the ankles laterally and they're designed to adhere closer to the sole when on the ground, you can see the sliding components.Are you blind or dumb?
>>96435559> Predators©, Devastators©, Annihilators©, Sternguards©, Centurions©...yeah man, GW never did that before primaris>Inceptor>someone intitiating some process. Another nonsenseno, that's again you being ignorant. Inceptors do orbital drops ahead of drop pods and Repulsors to soften air defences and other targets.You have no fucking idea of what you're talking about
Any ideas for a good discussion topic for next thread?
>>96435559>This is what you people are defending.We're not "defending" anything, we're bulliying you because you are a retard that needs to shup the fuck up instead of posting stupid shit
>>96435577>And they can't even walk.of course they can
>>96435559>someone intitiating some process.It also means to engage, you know, as in engaging the enemy, because they're one of the troops that can be deployed fastest.
>>96435609Lets discuss which craftworld is the best
>>96435629biel tan or iyanded because they have cool color schemes
>>96435629That's not a discussion, everyone knows it's iyanden, everyone else is just in denial or contrarian or shitposting.
>>96435573You have to be 18 to post here
>>96435635It cant be Iyanden. They didnt even do cool shit like pulling planets out of the warp
>>96435604That's the definition of "inceptor"; also, it can mean someone beginning a master of the arts degree. The Primaris names are all dumb, legal department constructs. An "intercessor" is someone who offers prayers on others' behalf. "Devastators" is actually an appropriately descriptive name.>>96435622>>96435610>stop insulting my He-Man figures!The go-kart couldn't drive, the suppressors couldn't fly or walk, the grav-tanks violate everything established thus far regarding Imperial tech, the Invictor Warsuit© makes Dreadnoughts redundant, etc.
>>96435629Saim-HanGotta go fast
new thread>>96435679>>96435679>>96435679
>>96435543>This is not about GW
>>96435675>The go-kart couldn't driveit can drive more than the pre-existing bikes>the suppressors couldn't fly or walkit can fly and walk just as well as any other jump pack marine>the grav-tanks violate everything established thus far regarding Imperial techexcept for the land speeders, and multiple other uses of a-grav tech>the Invictor Warsuit© makes Dreadnoughts redundant, etc.not any more than the scout sentinel already didyou'd do better by saying you simply don't like them as a subjective thing, instead of bringing forth hypocritical arguments that are demonstrably wrong
>>96435573who the fuck is that anyway, I don't keep up with zoomer e celebs or whatever that is
>>96434830>has a 4chan accountyou faggot
>>96435719That is Andrew Tate aka Top G
>>96435715- The bikes can at least sort of turn by leaning (the shooing would be terrible; whoever designed them has never ridden a motorcycle)- Other jump pack marines aren't wearing extra-clunky boots and carrying an autocannon- A land speeder is nowhere as massive as a tank- Marines don't use sentinels, and don't utilize neural interfacing (not reflected in game terms, but many things aren't)
>>96435743>The bikes can at least sort of turn by leaningNot with those wheels, they can't>Other jump pack marines aren't wearing extra-clunky boots and carrying an autocannonAll marines are wearing already excessively clunky boots and the thread demonstrated power armors with jump packs and autocannons had a precedent.>A land speeder is nowhere as massive as a tankStrap them together and suddenly they are>Marines don't use sentinelsand now they do, but call them warsuits
>>96435794>Not with those wheels, they can'tNo mistake, it'd be rough. Ground clearance on the sides could be a bigger problem, though. >All marines are wearing already excessively clunky boots and the thread demonstrated power armors with jump packs and autocannons had a precedent.Boots which are already clunky, but not made extra clunky with gear that no infantryman would ever want to wear. Rogue Trader/Slaves to Darkness doesn't have a precedent for autocannon jump packs; it has a boatload of options which players were assumed to jusstify because RT wasn't about holding players' hands. There were no corresponding model kits for what you're claiming.>Strap them together and suddenly they areYou'd need several. The fact that until 2017, nobody outside of the AdMech or Custodes had grav tanks shows the concept is prohibitive.>and now they do, but call them warsuitsWarsuits aren't sentinels, but yes, sentinels demonstrate that walker vehicles are relatively commonplace. If there is an up-scaled walker that can replicate the neural interfacing of a Dreadnought, then the warsuit trivializes Dreads.
>>96435735No I don't, what are you talking about
>>96435862>but not made extra clunkyirrelevant, they're already excessively clunky, the extra clunkiness doesn't tip the scale from where it already was>Rogue Trader/Slaves to Darkness doesn't have a precedent for autocannon jump packsyes, it does, the option is there, black on white.>There were no corresponding model kits for what you're claiming.Yes, there were >>96435001the jump packs were already integrated >>96434881>>96435862>You'd need several.turns out marine chapters have several of land speeders>Warsuits aren't sentinelsin practical terms, they are, they're no dreadnoughts, and they're used for scouting support
>>96435908>irrelevant, they're already excessively clunky, the extra clunkiness doesn't tip the scale from where it already wasIt does. "Extra clunky" by necessity makes something clunkier. >yes, it does, the option is there, black on white.It isn't. In 2e/Slaves to Darkness, Devastators aren't given autocannons as an option (like that anon claimed with his blurry picture), but do have heavy weapon options. Regardless, an autocannon is classed as a move-or-fire weapon. Jump packs and move-or-fire weapons cannot be used in the same turn, so it's not something that would be used, because it'd be a shit combo. By 3rd edition, the combination possibility was removed entirely. This is not the same as modern meme-Marines.>turns out marine chapters have several of land speeders"Several" as in more than two landsppeder to equal the mass of a tank of armored transport. See the rest of the post.
>>96436054>It does.It doesn't, it was already too clunky already.>This is not the same as modern meme-Marinesmodern rules for heavy weapons are different, making your point irrelevant>"Several" as in more than two several as in as many as the plot demands, land speeders aren't all ancient revered relics, they're tech that gets produced and for which they have stl forthe rest of your post assumes the lack of models proves an absence in the fluff and that the absence is a proof of it being technologically impossible, but that's silly and absurd, traditionalism is more than enough of an explanation for the lack of significant production of tank designs that aren't based on older STL
>>96436101The Point:Jump pack + autocannon equipped Devastators were not an option in 3rd edition, and a completely non-viable option in 2nd. They were never "there all along."
>>96435574They're Blood Angels and I'm just a very slow and meticulous painter. I don't understand how people can sit down for 1 session and get a whole squad done in 5-8 hours.It doesn't help that they're in subassemblies because i hate not being able to reach spots and get at lest full base coverage.
>>96432745>chainmailanon...
>>96432845thats not how boltguns work
>>96434830Can I post this up on the fridge please, it's my Covid love child masterpiece and the funniest shit to run in game.
>>96432745This strange anti-AoSfag who thinks he fits because he shills Space Marines must not be from this site. Might I recommend returning to your /vg/ Destiny general instead?
Space marines and Knights coming out next week >https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/b2ijmqp4/sunday-preview-knights-ravens-and-robots/
