>>96437663
Okay, here I go!

This concludes the ranking.

fantasy/old world - 7.5
40k 4/5th edition - 7.5
40k current edition - 4
bloodbowl - 8.5
battlefleet gothic - 8.5
underworlds - 9.5
space hulk - 4
mordheim - 6

>>96437663
In order of best to worst:
- Warmaster
- MESBG
- Epic
- Underworlds 1st edition
- Warcry
- Mordhiem
- Battlefield Gothic
- WHFB 6th edition
- 40k 4th edition
- 40K 5th edition

>>96437680
fippybippy came to make the exact same joke

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1. 40k 4th edition
2. Battlefleet Gothic
3. Kill team
4. LotR Skirmish game circa 2007
5. WHFB 6th edition
6. 40k 10th Edition
7. Space Crusade
8. Space Hulk

Playing games with alternating activation or some other method of move order has generally soured the you-go-i-go system GW sticks with on the main games, whenever I play one of them I keep thinking about how much more interesting they would be if GW took the jump and made Initiative matter for more than melee.

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This is the worst GW game I've ever played

>>96437663
Best to worst
Bloodbowl
Whfb 6th editon
Mordheim
Killteam
40k 3rd edition
Warcry
Age of sugma
40k modern

>>96437773
>Epic
OK, I know you have strong opinions over which edition is the only true Epic, but which one is it?

>>96437663
Flatness - 1/10
Rapier - 3/10 (lost points for the wack blade)
Issue of Ticked Off Trannies With Knives - 1/10
Weird Kali Barbie - 4/10
Bowl of matchbooks - 7/10

All in all not a great rating

>>96437663
WFB 6e > 40k 4e > MESBG >>>>>>>>>> Everything else

>>96438977
>Flatness - 1/10
Heretic

>>96437663

[good shit]
MESBG
Warhammer 4e (using pre gave rulebooks)
mordheim
Epic (net epic)
Warhammer 5e
Warhammer fantasy

[the MEH zone]
kill team
Shadow war Armageddon
warhammer 7/8
their modern boxed games

[what the fuck am i playing tier]

AoS
LIMP
warhammer 9-10th

gonna try Gorkamorka soon but i think at worst it's going to be about SW:A
also i'm disappointed how many people including myself do not have hero quest on this list

>>96437663
Space Hulk.

Never needed anything else after that.

>>96439067
oppai is justice

Anybody ever play Chainsaw Warrior? That any good?

>>96437663
Is that creature a gay man or a lesbian woman?
I legitimately can not tell

>>96438017
Looks like apoor mans twilight struggle

>>96437663
>warhammer quest: silver tower 8/10
>warcry 7/10
>mordheim 5.9/10 (I played it with a group of dicks so I dunno if I’m judging this fairly)
>warhammer fantasy battle 6e-8e (5/10)
>spearhead 7/10
>kill team 3/10
I’d really like to play something like man o war or LI but with actual variety. Also gw really needs to up their skirmish game.

-Warhammer Ancient Battles 9/10
-Kampfgruppe Normandy 8/10
-Warmaster Ancients 6.5/10
-Rogue Trader 9/10
-40K 2ed 7/10
-40K 3rd to 5th 8.5/10
-Battlefleet Gothic 7/10
-MESBG 7/10
I haven't played any of the new games, but TOW, Necromunda and 30K look cool.

>>96437663
Blood bowl
Warcry
AoS 2-3
40k modern
Fantasy 8th
AoS 4

Objectively correct

>>96439167
>Gorkamorka
It's... okay. But you need to be an Ork fan and play as one (i.e. don't take it too serious and don't mind losses, defeats or bad rules).
>HeroQuest
Was fun back then with beer and friends. Guess I would have preferred Advanced HeroQuest, but never got and played it.

>>96439195
>Space Hulk
Good game, especially with 1st edition support. Psychic rules from the Genestealer expansion were bad though.

>>96437663
>40k
Played only the first five editions. Can't rank them - sometimes more, sometimes less fun in each.
>Necromunda
I just like it. Needs a good group and/or a GM though, especially Newcromunda.
>HH
See 40k. Have to play 3rd edition yet, wasn't really fond of 2nd.
>Wargame Series (Armageddon, Doom of the Eldar etc.)
Good for a visit or trip/holiday. Players need to be 40k nerds - there're just counters and a story.

>>96438846
That's my bad. I've only played NetEpic, so whatever ruleset they use as their base.

>>96439067
If spending time on /s/ has taught me anything, it's that anything smaller than a G cup is considered flat these days.

>>96451738
That's Armageddon which was less of an edition and more Jervis releasing into the wild when it became clear that GW didn't care about it

>>96437663
>40k
3rd edition: 9/10
4th edition: 8/10 (only due to the army books sucking compared to 3rd)
5th edition: 7/10
6th and 7th edition: 5/10
8th-10th: 0/10
horus heresy 1st and 2nd: 8/10
horus heresy 3rd: 5/10
kill team (original 2000s): 8/10
kill team 1st edition: 7/10
nu-kill team: 4/10
necromunda 95: 8.5/10
necromunda 17: 8/10
>fantasy
6th: 9/10
8th: 7/10
old world: 8/10
age of sigmar (all editions): 5/10
mordheim: 9/10
warcry: 7/10
>mesbg
1st edition: 9/10
2nd edition: 8/10
3rd edition: 7/10

>>96437663
All good, but ranked in this order for how much I enjoyed them:
>Mordheim
>WFB 6th/7th (6th books with 7th core rules)
>40k 3rd/4th (3rd codices with 4th core rules, plus 4th codices that didn't exist before)
>Battlefleet Gothic
>Inquisitor
>Warmaster
Anything newer is generally dogshit. 40k5th with Apocalypse was decent but the beginning of the end.
>>96438011
Not bad taste.

>>96437663
>40k 2nd

Good

>40k 3rd or later

Shit

>WHFB 5th

Good

>WHFB 6th and later

Shit

Original Hetero Quest was cool looking but boring, Spaz Crusade was the better game.

>>96453023
>this fucking guy who thinks the goofy pre-Chambers/Cavatore era was better.
Holy fuck stay in your containment thread.

>>96437663
Good:
Necromunda (needs a ton of terrain tho)
Kill Team
Battlefleet Gothic
40k 3rd/4th edition

Mid
Warcry
Old World
Underworlds

Bad
40k 8th/9th/10th
Mordheim (fight me, its just not a fun game mechanically, and Necromunda as well as Warcry are leagues ahead)

>>96453177
>let's ruin your fun chaotic cascade of random tables by turning it into a wargame

YOU FUCKED UP

>>96451862
Ah, that makes sense.

>>96453704
>Mordheim (fight me, its just not a fun game mechanically
Mordhiem does the narrative aspect with the warbands and campaign really well, but the core rules are hot fucking garbage. Who looks at WHFB and goes "that'll translate to a skirmish game with no troubles." I go you go, a clunky and restrictive phase system and shitty, unnecessary, tables galore makes for a real poor core of a skirmish game.

It can be fun with the right group, but there are better fantasy skirmish games out there now.

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was quite a long list so opted for pic related

>epic armageddon
>MESBG
>warmaster
>aeronautica
>necromunda
>adeptus titanicus
>40k 2nd
>40k 3rd
>40k 4th
>AoS
>40k 10th

>>96458992
Dude. Idk what the fuck half of these are. Name em

>>96437663
From most liked to least liked:
MESBG
Warcry
AoS 2nd-3rd (RIP Katakros OG warscroll)
Underworlds 1st ed (haven't played 2nd)
Titanicus
AoS 4th
Legion Imperialis
40k 8th-10th (special mention to 9th ed GSC, the best codex GW has ever put out for 40k)
40k 4th
Blood bowl
Mordheim (the game sucks ass, fuck fake nostalgia grogs)
40k 7th (what a fucking dumpster fire)

>>96463116
>ranking 40k 8th-10th over 4th

Fuckin tourist.

>>96458992
Im curious about a few of these. First, 40k 4th in S and 5th in D, please explain this huge difference? Feel like they are very similar, enough so that even if you disliked one, the other one shouldn't be many letters seperate.

Also, first person I have heard from who loved war of the ring, what did you like about it? Thanks

>>96453704
The disparity between Necromunda and Mordeim is just weird to be, these are pretty similar games in both style and scope.

>>96463820
It comes down to the Ward codices only being balanced against each other and the non-ward codices also only being balanced against each other, so you're in for a bad, bad time when a ward codex fights a non-ward codex

>>96442051
that says more about you than her

>All of it: shit
Give me back the time and money I wasted on this fucking garbage.

>>96463901
I would agree, but this fucking garbage is all anyone plays

>>96463517
I bet you haven't read the 4th ed rules in two decades. If you ever have. They're fucking trash, the assault rules make no sense and are fiddly as fuck. People love to glorify the edition because the art is cool as fuck, but no one actually wants to play it or learn it because they don't like the actual edition, they just like the idea of it, and remember it being awesome because they played it as kids and everything was awesome then. As a ruleset and a game, the post-7th editions are objectively better. Even for playing narrative and story-driven games.

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>>96464145
Better than having tanks that can fire their forward hull guns out of their ass, or rules that enable this shit, pic related. 4th at least tried to accurately reflect the fluff and narrative and feel like a wargame, 8th-10th feels like a shitty video game where tanks act like large infantry models, models blob together for aura benefits and rules constantly shift all willy nilly

>>96464235
>m.jpg
All that needs to be said, really.

>>96464252
What does that even mean

>>96464262
Dumb phoneposter

>>96464252
How does this address the concerns raised in the post you're responding to?

>everyone saying MESBG is one of GW's best games
>no dedicated general
>only one dude in my huge metro area is trying to get games going
What explains this? I know next to nothing about the game

>>96464332
It's not nearly as popular as warhammer. MESBG is like historicals in that many people know the subject matter of the game, but hardly anyone plays the wargame based on that subject matter. But, just like historicals, it far outshines Warhammer as a game.

As for why it's less popular? I don't fucking know. Maybe because it's perceived as "too mainstream" by neckbeards or doesn't have enough space marines for autists to appreciate it.

>>96464332
It's a very good game mechanically, but the LotR movies were a long time ago by now, and while there are lots of very good minis for the game, many of them simply aren't very inspiring. It just doesn't have the same 'wow' factor as 40k or AoS on the shelf. As the other anon pointed out, it's basically a historical, though set in Middle-Earth. It also basically completely lacks "your dudes", as the game is very centered around the various named heroes and villains of the movies, with generic options basically being filler in comparison.

>>96463910
It's really not if you bother looking or putting in even the slightest bit if effort.

>>96437663
phone number of the female pls?

>>96464404
>It also basically completely lacks "your dudes", as the game is very centered around the various named heroes and villains of the movies, with generic options basically being filler in comparison.

Isn't that what's being done to 40k given that primarchs are back?

>>96464526
40k, as a system, isn't structured around its characters in the same way MESBG is. If you put a primarch on the table in 40k, it'll have a bunch of cool abilities and probably be a very powerful combat unit, but it won't be a fundamental part of your force in the same way MESBG characters are. You could swap the primarch out for a bunch of generic options and it'd work fine. In MESBG, many lists demand you take certain (named) characters, and even when there are generic options available, they can't affect the game in the same fundamental way. Characters in MESBG both determine the amount and which troops you can take, and they do things like affect the order in which you and your opponent can act, and abilities like Heroic Strength (which will let you kill monsters more easily, obviously a useful ability) are pretty much only available to named characters, while generic variants usually only get Heroic March (boosting the speed of troops not fighting) and can't use such abilities as much either.

>>96437663
Best to worst:
Mordheim
7th edition 40k
Warhammer Armies Project (not technically GW)
Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition
8th edition 40k Killteam
Warhammer 40k 8th edition.

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I've only ever played picrel.

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Best to worst as game systems:
Epic: Armageddon/NetEA
Battlefleet: Gothic
Warmaster
Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition
Necromunda (1st edition/revised/living rulebook)
BloodBowl (3rd + living rulebook)
Warhammer 40k 2nd edition
Space Hulk 2nd Edition
Warhammer Fantasy 5th edition
Warhammer 40k 3rd edition
Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader

Ones I would go back to play more of in this day and age?
Epic: Armageddon, the only one that actually breaks out of the not just top tier for a GW game and into genuinely great wargame design territory.
Battlefleet: Gothic. It still has a solid character to it that other spaceship games that whilst maybe being better, don't do the same.
Space Hulk. It's good for an occasional filler round.
40k 2nd edition or oddly Rogue Trader; dogshit a system as it is, that fucker has charm and enthusiasm coming out of every orifice. And it has a lot of orifices. Conversely I'll happily acknowledge 3rd is a much, much better written system than 1&2, but it's bland as chewing cardboard even with all the damn good work they put into bolting on extra armies and support through white dwarf they did (an entire army of kroot that you had to convert most of because they'd never make the models? That'd never, ever happen again).

Things like Warmaster or Warhammer fantasy I just would rather play a better (probably historicals if I can't find a fantasy one) rank & file wargame, and there's so fucking many of those about. Necromunda, again, superseded by so many other skirmish games of so many kinds. And I've played enough Bloodbowl to last a lifetime and I'm sick how clunky and slow it is for a sports game.

>>96465603
What about 40k 10th edition???

Based games tier: Epic (not gay 30k shit), blood bowl, necromancer, mordheim, gorka morka, BFG, 2nd ed. 40k, space hulk

Didn't play tier: any of the middle earth stuff

Shit garbage tier: everything else

>>96465670
NTA but compared to 2nd ed, 10th edition seems like GW finally cracked the "balanced, competitive game for tournament play" code they've been trying to crack since arguably 4th edition, but typical of GW they had to sacrifice all of the flavor, charm and character to achieve such results. And even then, the results aren't all that stellar. And really, why the fuck would you want to play 40k at all if all the character is stripped from it? Is that not what attracts the majority of hobbyists to the IP?

But yeah, congratulations Games Workshop, you successfully turned your flagship product into fucking Warmahordes. I guess Privateer Press won after all these years, in a philosophical way.