Calibration Edition >What is Exalted?An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.Start here:http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial:http://mengtzu.github.io/exalted/sakuya.htmlIt’ll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. good luck>Resources for Third Edition>3E Core and Splatshttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/b54o6teut3fx6/Exalted_3e>Errata for Third Editionhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3ooTmopm3CBxW5jwPp1761xsaIccea-5XIhVM_PQEc/edit>Other Ex3 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/fG1mLMdu (embed)>Resources for Older Editionshttps://pastebin.com/BXSGuFdQ (embed)>Current Quixalted Extended QE Version (Fanmade Supplement)https://files.catbox.moe/rjgmo5.pdf>Optional Quixalted Exaltshttps://www.mediafire.com/file/jg86yrewnhx2ov3/QE_Reject3eExaltHomebrew.pdf/file>Exalted Demake/Black Vault (Now with updates):https://pastebin.com/Tt1PjuYt (embed)https://pastebin.com/qHRW9N51 (embed)>collection of Exalted Hackshttps://pastebin.com/gtZnycJs (embed)>stuff that might be interestinghttps://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/the-exalted-thread-with-no-original-ideas.317216/Last thread:>>96401058>TQs>Have you ever done anything with Calibration in your campaigns?>What about other holidays in Creation, have you ever used them in a campaign? Or even made an original one?
>>96441763>>Have you ever done anything with Calibration in your campaigns?>>What about other holidays in Creation, have you ever used them in a campaign? Or even made an original one?I once had a city-state with a nearby shadowland where Calibration was a time of more-or-less friendly interaction between the living and the dead, with the dead coming out to hang out in the city. Like, a man might have a drink with his dead father and reminisce about the past and so on. The PCs happened to pass by around Calibration. They were DBs, one of them was an Immaculate monk and deeply disgusted by that custom, so they overthrew the shadowland side's ghostly monarch and put an end to such blasphemous traditions. I don't think I've done anything else special with Calibration, though.
How do we fix Lunars?
>>96441950Make them YA magical fiction where they're the hyper-competent super-special chosen one being fought over by other, more physically powerful, men.
>>96441950Why is "dark fantasy" just look at these three hot tall guys who abuse me and sexually harass me?
>>96441763>CalibrationBut we're not in December.................
What's the point of a skill like Lore in a setting where every natural phenomenon falls under Occult?
>>96442052A return to 2e? But with 60 lunars, and each Lunar is bound to a Solar circle?>>96442055With women it always was, the problem is that 3e is misaligned Tanith Lee's gooning principles.
>>96442107>What's the point of a skill like Lore in a setting where every natural phenomenon falls under Occult?Because History and stuff like that make more sense as their own skill.
>>96441950>How do we fix Lunars?What's their problem?
>>96442587They exist. They add nothing to the world, it's lore, or any sort of interesting plot.
>>96442055>Why is "dark fantasy" just look at these three hot tall guys who abuse me and sexually harass me?Because that's the only goddamned thing that sells with the title.
>>96442107It is a long story, a resume is that it is a legacy of an urban fantasy system ported to a pulp fantasy.In pulp fantasy occultism and science aren't really separated, contrary of urban fantasy, so a lot of "lore" falls under "occult".
>>96442593In that case you either remove them or give them a general goal and conflict with other factions. For example, giving them a Great Wall™ analogue piece of infrastructure to keep against the Wyld or a task along the lines of "keeping the menagerie of creation alive."
>>96442639So what do a Lore 5 Occult 0 and a Lore 0 Occult 5 character look like?
>>96442873It would be analogous to the difference between a generalist handyman/electrician and a historian/lawyer.
>>96442078>But we're not in December.................Something something our calendars are out of sync. Something something Chinese New Year blah blah blah.
>>96442078It is based on the Aztec calendar.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%93mont%C4%93mi
Why are Fae vulnerable to Iron in this setting?
>>96443403Because they're creatures of raw Chaos and iron is associated most strongly with the element of Earth, which embodies order and stability.
>>96442078Calibration is towards the end of the autumn-equivalent, not midwinter. It's very similar to southern-hemisphere Halloween in vibes.
>>96443746Isn't southern Halloween around the vernal equinox? With Christmas around the summer solstice?
I want to do a crossover game with World of Darkness so correct me if I’m wrong: awakened mages in Word are equivalent to sidereal exalted. I want to have mage characters from world of darkness be randomly transported to the Exalted setting. They should be roughly as powerful as sidereals correct?I want them to be hardasses from the Technocratic Union if you know about Mage lore. They’re actually even bigger control freaks. My friends and I already talked about it
>>96442706Treating any Exalted type as a faction is a mistake. In fact being treated too much like a faction with shared goals is a problem with Lunars as it is, and doubling down on that isn't going to make things better.
>>96444143The Realm was made by the Dragon-Blooded, with the rest being put in the outcaste book.
>>96443403Honestly I wish there was a more detailed and autistic explanation like there is for a lot of shit than >>96443530, I mean it kind of makes sense but with how powerful high level Raksha (let alone Unshaped and Ishvara) are supposed to be lorewise I just wish there was more to it>>96444136The high end of them are much more powerful than Sidereals could ever hope to be-frankly rivalling the Primordials themselves-but the vast majority of mages, including PC mages, operate similarly to Sidereals, yeah. For most intents and purposes you can treat them like subtle manipulators who can be situationally deadly and masters of hax fuckery but are also geased to hide from the limelight, it’s only if the metaplot lore about mages having shards of God that want to reunite and form a new Godhead that you have to start worrying about aiming hire. And frankly I’ve never heard of anyone using Masters of the Art rules in an actual Mage game. In spite of the fact I know of someone who statted fighting an avatar of Malfeas in a game of Exalted (reskinned Behemoth, basically).
>>96444239Re: power level can’t exalted shards technically keep growing in power too? I agree that for PCs it isn’t really relevant. Ascended archmages can’t even come to Earth any more, they have to move to the umbra.
>>96444180Sure. All Dragon-Blooded aren't from the Realm, however, as you yourself point out. Realm itself is at the moment only nominally united at the moment. There are Dragon-Blooded factions, but the Dragon-Blooded are not themselves a faction, and things are specifically set up so that the most dominant faction among them is falling apart. There's no shared Dragon-Blooded cause, not in the same way there's a shared Lunar cause.>>96442107While making distinctions between supernatural and natural phenomena and related knowledge in a setting like Creation is artificial as fuck and probably pointless, Exalted does for whatever reason make such a distinction. Occult deals with the supernatural, not the natural, and knowledge about natural phenomena doesn't fall under it.
The sidereal exalted would probably get along great with The Technocracy from mage. The Technocracy is into the same shit but they are actually competent and always win instead of fucking it up
>>96444256Outcastes are like 1e!Lunars that weren't part of the Silver Pact, or ronin Sidereals.
>>96444136>correct me if I’m wrong: awakened mages in Word are equivalent to sidereal exaltedNo, they're different. They're not based in the same ideas, and exist in completely different environments. The only equivalence is that Sidereals generate something called paradox, but the paradox that Sidereals generate is only the same as Mage paradox in 3e. In 1e/2e a Sidereal's paradox is just a measure of how annoyed the pattern spiders are at them.If a Mage crosses over into Exalted and paradox is the same thing they would likely start getting pattern spiders biting them in the fate the same way Sidereals do, or recieving pattern shock the same way 3e sidereals do if they're going into that edition (because the Loom of Fate is a more active reality engine than the frayed consensus of WoD or the supernal ideas of nWoD), which might put stronger limits on their top end.
>>96444267>The sidereal exalted would probably get along great with The Technocracy from mage. The Technocracy is into the same shit but they are actually competent and always win instead of fucking it upSidereals haven't fucked up yet. It's only in the non-canon scenarios like RotSE that they're completely buggered, and that's because those scenarios write them out because they don't know how Sidereals work in the first place.
>>96444274Except for the Realm not being as central to the Dragon-Blooded as Silver Pact or Sidereal factions are to their respective splats, the Realm not really being a united faction at the moment, the Realm not having a distinct common goal the same way the Silver Pact has even when it was firmly united under the Empress, and there being both major and minor Dragon-Blooded factions outside the Realm. In other words, not really.
>>96444300They were said to be equivalent in the first edition. Obviously they operate in different environments but awakened mages essentially have the same exaltation. You’re right that their power would be more limited in Creation
>>96444136Just look at Holdens WoDvs Exalted you are better off doing that then doing it from scratch.
>>96444484Holdon writes some pretty great stuff even if I find the mechanics on it all pretty lacking. Love the Broken Winged Crane, dislike the mechanics. Amazing how consistent he's been with that.
>>96444239>I just wish there was more to itThey couldn't come up with a good reason for that in changeling. Trying to make it a coherent thing in Creation would raise more questions than answers even if you have some very basic ideas like Auto hating on the Wyld so hard he creates fucking anti matter out of it because fuck them in particular.
Exalted has this weird issue where it feels like the bigger you try to make it the smaller and less significant everything feels. I don't really have the words to explain it but I'm pretty sure other people know exactly what I'm talking about.When you first learn about the settings you have all these amazing ideas for what 300 solars could do if they came back and change the world - then when you're really into the setting you wonder why there are billions of people and how 300 people could ever do anything cool in a way that doesn't sound absolutely silly. 3e doubling down on smaller adventures doesn't really help with this. It makes me wonder if any game actually feel like your effecting things at a scale where things feel important and impactful. The battle group mechanics are nice but still feel pretty jank in pretty much every setting, although 3e easily does them best.
>>96444705There isn't a good way to make the numbers work, people already tune things out dealing with IRL Imperial China numbers to making meaning changes to creation as a whole is just going to raise more questions and problems at the table.
>>96444723Yeah... A thing that makes me sad in a strange way is this desire to make settings "bigger then earth". Like, earth is already huge with billions of people and all their stories. We're just a marble, floating out in space, forever alone. Then you get into a fantasy setting and it's just "There is always more, everything is infinite, everything is endless." Heck, from what I remember it's canon that Exalted is a multiverse with infinite suns and universes with who knows how many other Creations out in the Wyld or in the Well of Urd.It just shouldn't be hard to have your cake and eat it too but I haven't found a system that really pulls of that feeling. Exalted used to be the closest but less so nowadays. I don't know, just lamenting.
>>96444705>Exalted has this weird issue where it feels like the bigger you try to make it the smaller and less significant everything feels. I don't really have the words to explain it but I'm pretty sure other people know exactly what I'm talking about.I get it. It feels impossible to push against the vast everything. The best you can really do ends up being cutting it down into chunks you can take on until you reach a tipping point or are forced to flee greater retaliation, or otherwise looking for key events and positions where you can weigh the scales in your favor. Local issues ends up being 99% of games.
>>96444746I'm pretty sure the Exalted multiverse thing came from the Nocturnal fanbook to explain their weird Schrodinger's Gear charms being fleshed out into a whole thing.As far as making things have a sense of weight to them, you could "just" plan things out as an ST on a macro level but a lot of games make that kind of stuff pretty much irrelevant. Who gives a shot about the Realm losing 8 trillion people in a single battle and 6 million Terrestrials on the way to said skirmish?
>>96444746>Heck, from what I remember it's canon that Exalted is a multiverse with infinite suns and universes with who knows how many other Creations out in the Wyld or in the Well of Urd.The Wyld is theoretically endless, but there is only one Creation in it, and the rest of the endless Wyld is forced to orient itself around Creation. There could be other stable lands, but those capable of making a persistent land and fighting off the raksha would also know about Creation and likely be able to move there if they wanted to, because Creation is never that far away even in the endless lands of True Chaos (which is to say that space and distance are negotiable out there to the extent that there is an upper bound on how difficult it can be to get to Creation from the Wyld). The Well of Udr is an access to an unlimited multiverse, but it's not a portal that goes to a consistent place, and there isn't any way back. The Arch of Undreamt Dreams is a better way to access a theoretically infinite multiverse (even if the understanding of it is flawed, that understanding still provides access to an infinite multiverse of alternate timelines) if exploring the multiverse ever became a meaningful thing, but it's like... not that relevant, really? It could be, in that there could be an invasion of outworlders, but how really cares, y'know? The difference between a multiversal invasion and a sea of beasts from deep underground coming up into the world, or something coming down from the moon, is pretty aesthetic and tactical. It's all outworlder invasions fundamentally, and the strategic differences are minimal. There is no wildly out of scale enemy that could crush all of Creation and it's defenders with it's little pinky unless you subscribe to the wildest Ink Monkey fever dreams, and even then that enemy is the Unconquered Sun and the expectation of the Ink Monkeys is that if your Solar PCs eat their vegetables and grow up big and strong they can beat him too.
>>96444908I'm pretty sure the multiverse talk came about when stuff about the Well of Urd and it having alternative Creations in it. I thought that came about in the 2e abyssal book but it was probably invented way earlier. I don't think it was ever directly said that there are infinite multiverses though, just that the possibility may exist. Which like... just say no. Although I bet anything someone out there thinks the Well of Urd is the coolest thing ever. For me it's the Eye of Auto. The fuck is that thing, why is it here, what would I do with it. I refuse to leave the ancient artifact that dooms everyone it touches. I want to, I don't know, give it to that lady in the sun. Maybe it can help make her job easier or something. Find stuff that can actually improve your job in the Daystar seems like a pain in the butt.
>>96444252Techhnically, sure. But I mean…max oWoD mage wank goes up to introducing new constants to the universe with NO “it has to be subtle” limits, experiencing and interacting with all of space-time at once, or outright creating new universes.I don’t think even max 2e wank E10 Charm bullshit competes with that on an individual basis, at least. Not from the Sidereal charmset. Besides, it takes thousands of years to even get to statted First Age Solar level and Sidereals all have set lifespans so if we’re really playing this imaginary big dick contest seriously-the Sidereals are inherently disadvantaged because they just drop dead by the time it takes for them to even come close.Anyway, like you said all of that is navalgazing for the purposes of PCs who aren’t locked into a campaign where they have to deal with Voormas trying to use the Pashupata Astra to eliminate the concept of death. Because if you end up in such a campaign, either your ST hates you or you’ve long ago agreed on a set of homebrew rules to enable it that ensure you are basically not playing Exalted anymore.>>96444679Nah, miss me with that pessimism. Having a longwinded autistic explanation about Auto’s enmity with the Wyld is exactly the kind of experience I come to Exalted for. >>96444746I’ve come to accept that Nobilis is the game that Exalted was sold to me as. And unfortunately, it is a very different experience to Exalted.
>>96444969>give it to that lady in the SunGiven Nysela just wants to uphold the ideals of the Unconquered Sun as much as possible (and get dicked down by him; 3e making her his daughter just makes that funnier) so handing her the object notorious for dooming any owner sooner or later is probably a good way to make her very upset.In fact, I’m totally using this idea as an Infernal plot someday. Why bother cursing or corrupting the Daystar when you can simply put a treasure in there that will do it for you?
>>96444794>Local issues ends up being 99% of games.I feel like that's desirable, to be honest. There's some people who treat Exalted like its Crusader Kings and I've never been interested in that at all or considered that kind of removed interaction with the world at large to be really fitting for Exalted. Keeping it local lets you build up interesting characters/places, and make the stakes more personal when push comes to shove.
>>96445088>Having a longwinded autistic explanation about Auto’s enmity with the Wyld is exactly the kind of experience I come to Exalted for.If I had to write a lore explanation for this kind of stuff, Auto creates various porpuse organisms and materials.After the 777 billionth Fae fucking around with his shit leading to a lost game of divnity he says "Well fuck your kind, in general" before crafting the mother of all stable materials even cutting a part of himself to allow it to cut the illusions of the fae. The main reason why this wasn't developed further was because if he replicated that targeting other deities would be bad enough to justify imprisoning him driving a wedge that would eventually lead to the devine revolution.
>>96441763Monthly Update>PredevelopmentSidereal JumpstartAlchemical CompanionEssence ExtendedEssence Storyteller's Guide>First DraftEssence Player’s Guide novellasEssay Collection lol last seen here>DevelopmentRiders from the Sunless Lands: The Abyssals CompanionInfernals>Art Notes PrepChampions of the Divine FlameEssence Player’s Guide (possible error)>Art DirectionEssence Player’s GuideAlchemicals: Servants of the Machine GodAgents of Heaven (Sidereals Companion)>ProofingMiracles of Divine Flame (Exigents Companion)>PressExigents: Out of the Ashes: QuotingExigents Storyteller Screen: At Studio2Sidereals: Charting Fate’s Course: Quotingabyssals was out last month and the novella omnibus. the closest thing coming is the exigent companion, may see it within a month if timing is good. we may even see alchemicals before or after year's end if thing's go smoothly. infernals crowdfunding still seems to be planned for the holiday financial reaming zone
>>96445201Yeah, desu. It's just I really want it to be both, ya know? Crusader Kings is a great example. Or Shadows of the Forbidden Gods. I do enjoy local stories as well, especially when "local" can mean an entire kingdom or country.
>>96445210The funny thing is this is the canonical reason why SWLIHN’s attack Charms do Aggravated damage to Wyld things.
>>96445387Every reminder about 3e preparing to butcher Infernals inspires numbing dread in me, like anticipating a failing mark from exam results.
>>96445554They'll be better than old Infernals
>>96445581Bullshit. Every single thing I’ve heard about them makes them sound infinitely worse.
>>96445491I feel like it was every fucking thing that opposed the wyld and did special effects or better damage to creatures of the Wyld by the end of 2e. She Who Lives in Her Name opposed the Wyld, Adrien opposed the Wyld, Theion opposed the Wyld, Autochthon opposed the Wyld, Gaia stands against the Wyld, The Unconquered Sun opposes the Wyld, Luna stands ward over the Wyld and enforces it's separation from Creation, the Maidens of Fate work daily to weave fate in order to sustain Creation from the Wyld, the essence of death and everything that uses it (Neverborn, the Underworld in general, ghosts, Abyssals) oppose the Wyld, Solars crusade into it to claim and stand against the Wyld, Lunars oppose the Wyld, Sidereals oppose the Wyld, the Solar's creations build bastions in the Wyld, fucking commerce opposes the Wyld.Like it's a bit of a wank for raksha and the Wyld that all this shit can be set against them and they're still encroaching on the borders of the world while historically being some of the closest to achieving their overarching goals, but I mean really? Don't you think this is a bit much? They're just raksha. Imagine one Solar with their mate and a circle of outcaste dragonblood backup dancers Wyld-Shaping a couple miles of mountains made of cold iron wrapped up in a wall around the world and try to think of a way the fae do anything about it.
>>96445635I mean, to be fair-it makes sense for all those things to oppose the Wyld with how consistently voracious and predatory the Wyld has acted towards Creation.
>>96442052So give them multiple solar mates instead of just one?
>>96445662While each of them could be and have been justified to oppose the Wyld on an individual level, for some of them it's a stretch, and taken collectively it's a huge enclave of forces that'd usually be at odds that can agree that the Wyld should go kaput and have special powers to make it happen. It's not really needed to have all of that be anti-Wyld. Like, any fae invaders are going to come in to tear down the stable reality of Creation and find that under that vile stabilizing force is an EVEN MORE STABLE world, and this time it has death and destruction!Also, a lot of the justification of opposing the Wyld being this voracious all-devouring anti-stability force that can never really be defeated, only held back, loses a lot of weight when Creation is the only realm threatened by it. The Underworld isn't bordered by the Wyld, it's bordered by an endless blank white nothingness. It never even touches the Wyld unless there's a shadowland that's been swamped by bordermarches. Yu Shan just has quicksilver oceans that go on forever (so far as we're told). Malfeas is surrounded by Cecelyne and Kimbery, the Wyld being a non-factor. The Wyld is completely unknown to the nations of Autochthonia, and Zen-Mu probably isn't attached to the Wyld either or it would have seen a Wyld Crusade rallied to take it down with how long it's been left unattended by greater powers. Most of these otherworlds aren't attached to or upheld by Creation either - if Creation falls, Yu Shan keeps rolling on (though hopefully adopting some humans so that prayers can keep rolling in), Malfeas is completely unaffected, Autochthon doesn't even notice, and Zen-Mu is even more lost. The only winner is the Neverborn, who either finally die for real or continue to exist as shadowlands in the Wyld, neither of which can eradicate the other.
>>96445703That would be too straight forward. She needs at least one love triangle between a Lunar Elder the MC and a Abyssal.
