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>>96447166High resolution: https://imgchest.com/p/na7k8kebq78
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407068Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401396Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96432931/#96437169The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394148Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
>>96447183Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436Unbegotten Dreamer - Liadan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96432931/#96438090He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
>>96447183*Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96441041
>>96447166are we allowed to post non-tankista cyoa?
>>96447241Only if it's anywhere near as good
So going by some comments in the last thread, you can both have JNPL as a mother and qualify for daemonhost if you are a Majin?
>>96447528Nope. Daemonhost is an inherited trait.
>>96447183https://rentry.co/772hurgvSmall update to my build, I sold Elven-Northerner so I could buy Yee for Savmak, to try and make it more likely she'll survive (and won't stay dead if she doesn't.) I also switched my letter to Vedi, in response to the fact that SRTR apparently considers picking Buki to be certain death, and my lack of cleverness/better options in my build to avoid death.
>>96447528>The Holy Mother giving birth to a disgusting demon.HERESY
Darina vs Dei. Who would win?
>>96447624Darina kicks her ass
>>96447624Darina no contest.
>>96447624Dei by attrition.
>>96447183Patron special picks:JNPL Death of the Author: Immunity to deus ex machina.YMDR YMDR: Have YMDR's deus ex machina to counter Charlotte's deus ex machina.SRTR's Toybox: Good enough at magic that you can at minimum somewhat deal with deus ex machina (evidence: Zenia 100% saving anyone who takes her, even from Charlotte).YMDR is special in that you don't actually need to pick YMRD to be with YMRD. This means that its benefits can be gained by finding (she's on the moon) and convincing her to let you be with her (probably easy if you're useful). This leads to the thought of picking YMRD to be not worth it. This thought is correct. Buying YMRD as a companion is essentially just forcing her to meet and be with you for a while. Why not instead use those 10 points to make yourself more useful? Plus, actively searching for her may be quicker than waiting for her to find you.The question is now JNPL Death of the Author vs SRTR's Toybox. Assuming that YMDR's teachings = SRTR's teachings in an equal time frame (which means SRTR is better if you only care about their teachings), you can find YMRD the moment you step out of the Toybox, and SRTR won't send you out before 100 years, what must now be determined is the value of:(JNPL Death of the Author) + (manipulating the fate of the world) - (time spent finding YMDR) - (caution with picks, e.g. Tide overlap) - (a lot less points, especially ancestry)vs(SRTR's Toybox) + (complete disregard of character picks other than their inborn gifts and teachings, e.g. pick normally nonsensical parent pairings without worry) + (100 years of safety) - (incapable of affecting the world for 100 years)The two sides' differences can be summed up as: being immune to deus ex machina and able to affect the world vs being better in all other areas and unable to affect the world for 100 years.Which one is better? Depends on what you want. They're too different to have an absolute answer for everyone.
>>96447624They both lose to the cock.
>>96447624Darina costs more than Zenia. She should match Nilmatrix no problem.
Just watched Weapons. It is indeed Black Magic (the cyoa) in movie format. Ending was basically a comedy, though.
>>96447676>point scaling>Darina costs more than Zenia>She should match Nilmatrix no problem>Nilmatrix costs 0>Dei costs 5Lol. Lmao even.Stop point scaling.
>>96447690Dei is not a martial/mage build. Nilmatrix is hostile. Both Darina and Zenia are just fighters with nothing else, so Darina is superior.
>>96447183ffs... This cyoa should get it's own thread.It definitely has enough clout for it.
>>96447663The bigger thing to consider for Patron picks is how that Patron will shape your story. Studying the Outsiders page will reveal the details to this, and that the correct answer is to pick YMRD eleven times out of ten.
>>96447701>Zenia are just fighters with nothing else
>>96447707What does she bring except firepower?
>>96447690Iwnn beats Omega in a fight because he costs 5 and she costs 0
>>96447714Just retarded, I see.
>>96447686I still can’t find it on torrents and I don’t want to give my money to the Jewtheatre
Bad time to release OC right now?
>>96447663Another SRTR's advantage is Stigmata. As it gives you direct line to her.While JNPL can only talk with you via Outsider System as far as we know.SRTR's unique Death Letter allows you to cheat death at the cost of your body.JNPL's unique Death Letter just allows you to kill one of your parents vie old age.YMRD's unique Death Letter allows you to overcharge your Mentor.
>>96447729Good time because I will read it
>>96447729No, someone did already and he got some discussion, only issue was that it was bad so it didn't last.
>>96447728?B856158FB30672FA2C85A66E9A72D518587AE5D3
>>96447702You don't remember the state of the thread post-split, eh?
>>96447739Still did better than Magic the Awakening.Tok's legacy will always be tarnished unless he fixes it and makes a big comeback like No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077 did.
>>96447742Shit copy
>>96447783Mage the Awakening is gay. Why? Because Platonisim is gay. Why? Because “there is a perfect symbol or representation of Cat in the supernal, shining down as all examples of cats ever existing throughout time and space—but no you cannot pet it, ever, you can never pet the Cat, only archmages can do that!” is hella gay.
>>96447791Fair, designated "wait for better days"
>>96447704Xian had favor of both.Savmak had YMRD support but he shot himself in the foot.Yphont got a good deal with YMRD.Sarmat got a good deal with SRTR.Erginter had no support from YMRD since she was a bitch.Charlie dug herself a hole with her own hands and kept yelling at SRTR blaming her for it.Ratha of the Orthrung lived her good ending with SRTR favor until Charlie ruined it.They are fairly if you don't tempt fate with your choices and actions.
>>96447791Imagine being this picky over screen quality
>>96447802I have this theory that the Platonic Forms of Cat and Box overlap, and this is why cats love boxes so much.
I hate OR because everyone keep finding exploits and cool builds ideas while I fail to understand the lore and the gifts interactions. It's public humiliation in cyoa form.
>>96447845>picrel incarnate
>>96447845Roll the dice and close read the options that gives you, eventually you will find a better combination than everyone before you. Trust the plan
>>96447166>>96447183Updating Build>Numerological Demon Lord, Tet or Yod or Kaf (Iotated Greater Yus)>Deity: YMRD>Male>Adoption (One), Adoption (Keter), Untimeskip (Dei, Eirina, Maou, Kashtanka), Dice Fudge (Keter, Dei) Outer Tide, Extra Mentor x5>Mother: Thonodreth-From-Agartha (Iotated Az, Zhivete)>Father: Aat>Adopted Mother: Keter (Yat)>Adopted Father: One >Majin Race>Quietened (A Lot Of Languages)>Tutored Everman (Dei, Eirina, Jisilbert, Maou, Kashtanka)>Everman, Fey>Location Dis>Bitter Sickness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, Inner Vision x2, Autoantecedence, Spirit Tap x3, Kneeling Twilight x2, Letters Of The Damned, Daemonhost> Mentors: Dei (Shta, Yee), Eirina (Lesser Yus), Jisilbert (Ouk), Maou (Sha), Kashtanka (Iotated Lesser Yus), Leimeie (Greater Yus), Tenyota (Yotated Yest')>Companions: Gunter (Respawning Point)>Gunter Companions: Baf (Everlasting), Dobrava (Empireality), Nilmatrix (Shadow Of God)>Dobrava Encounters: By Design (Baf), Playing Traitors, Shadow Of God>Encounters: A Score Of Orcs; Things That Shouldn’t Be (Tenyota); Let The Purgation Begin (Leimeie); A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll; No Way, Highwayman (Jisilbert); A Band Of Ogres; Breaking And Entering (Kashtanka); On Full Stomach (Eirina); Wild And Wilder (Maou); Respawning Point (Gunter); Nothing Ever Happens (Dei)>Youth: Power Testing, Plotting, Journey Of The Self, Parental Support>FUNDAMENTUM
>>96447845I can help with the gift interactions, just tell me what you have in mind.
Az Outsiders are second-rate and should be treated as such.
>>96447845>gifts interactionsOne of the easiest parts of the cyoa. If you can't even understand them, you can try filing for mental disability.
>>96447911Then he'll have more time to understand OR, good plan
>>96447845Don't worry about it so much, just do what feels right :)
>>96447845Nobody know the lore, the thread sucks at reading. Picture your build and work in reverse from there.
>>96447845everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.just follow your heart to your own original build for there in lies your Meaning™
>>96447907Its would be fine if the world was peaceful and 0^0 didn't exist, but yeah, sacrificing so much precious meta knowledge in a critical time like this is retarded.
>>96447845Don't worry too much about points, trying to optimize that is the way to Charlie's fucked up childhood. Just pick whatever story you think looks cool to you.And about gifts interactions just think about the mental ones and how they would work. For example having Alisa mentor you will obviously have better impact if you took Noble Inclination to be charismatic enough and Ethereal Beauty to seduce people with it. Add in one flowing Gait for silent footsteps and you are already the perfect bard spy.
>>96447926But we do know how to write at leastHas it really just been you making spelling mistakes and saying retarded shit this whole time? Because the frequency of mistakes seems to have jumped sharply and maintains a consistent toneWhy do you do this? What nationality are you?
>>96447938>everyoneHer name is not "everyone", it is Keter.
>>96447963>Why do you do thisTo make you notice me! Thanks for the reply!
>>96447963French Canadian
>>96447963South American.
>>96448008Oops.
>>96448029
>>96448036
>>96447907Az is just committing to the bit.
>>96447818Savmat's been stuck in a sword for centuriesXian and Erginter got fused and committed suicide.Yphont started out with a good deal then got killed by Erginter.>imagine picking YMRD
>>96448204What's the point of reincarnation if you can't shitpost with the bros?
>>96448008
>>96448232You can still shitpost at him.He gets to enjoy the dumb shit we say as if it was fresh.
>>96447183Daily reminder that Khier Ot = God from far away (distinct from the Buki gods) = 3_tankista
>>96448244kino as always
>>96448246I wouldn't want some retard to try explain literal dead memes to me while holding back laughter. Sounds hellish. Now imagine 10 of them
>>96447624>Best demon killer ever vs a demon
>>96447818>Ratha of the Orthrung lived her good ending with SRTR favor until Charlie ruined it.Survivorship bias. We don't know how many SRTR worshippers didn't get their good ending.
>>96448263>>96448246>Who are you people and who the fuck is Charlie?
>>96448275>he doesn't know>he doesn't know >he doesn't know>he doesn't know>why and how is your speech green
>Take Ielziasah as a mentor>Don the role of a fool to see what it feels like>Nothing is differentOh…
You get the opportunity to get isekai’d into a fantasy world. And you get all sorts of free magical benefits. But the one drawback is you’re suddenly gay now, and you only want to have sex with cute boys. Yay or nay? This is a yes or no offer.
>>96448383Hmmmm. HMMMMMMMMM. No.
>>96448383Only if the boys look like this
>>96448330Nice start of Fool's Journey, Anon.21 more Major Arcana roles to go through.
>>96448383It's okay if I'm a woman.
>>96448383It's okay if I'm not an ugly old man.
>>96448383NoMy life is fine now, I wouldn't bother with things like thatI want to reproduceI need BREEDINGCould you expand on whether cute boys includes femboys or just the underage?
>>96448464>ugly old manSacrifice beauty, obtain power.
>>96448383Yay because nothing will have changed
>>96448383What tropes are present in this setting. I don't want to sign up for doomed yaoi.
>>96448383Are there genderswap potions or spells in the theoretical setting? Asking for a "close friend" and/or roommate
>>96448383Can I have sex with cute men instead of cute boys?
>>96448468>magical benefitsPretty sure, this would include some mpreg spell just for you.
>>96447166Alright anons, I have small challenge for you: Give me EVERY bit of symbolism or connection linked to the number 11 you can find in the cyoa. It'll start with the most obvious, the letter Yee number 11 on the death page.
>>96448514Second most obvious one, you are #11
>>96448514Anons, do the challenge for me.
>>96448514The kabbalistic tree of life which is heavily referenced with the names of the sephiroth spattered about has a "quantum node" name Da'at that happens to be the 11th to the usual 10.
>>96448468You're getting sent to the omegaverse
>>96448514JNPL YMRD SRTR 00 uses 11 distinct characters
>>96448546>JNPL YMRD SRTR 00No it fucking doesnt
>>96448514>"I am who I am">Master Number in Numerology>Tarot card by the same number>Abrahadabra in Thelema
>>96448383Yay.
>>96448553It clearly does, are you unable to count?This still falls apart because 0^0 is clearly CHRL when not jumping from one system to the other, and this raises the amount to 12.>>96448556Isn't Abrahadabra 22
>>96448574Bullshit, prove it to me
>>96448583You will get the exact same time investment you give me
>>96448587I would you like me to beseech you more elaborately?
>>96447166LET ME OUT LET ME OUT LET ME OUT...>Path:Seeker>Location:The QuarantineThe gateway, a way OUT.>Discipline:Esoteric>Traits:Mnemonic Sense, Hollow Wisdom>Aspects:Corruption, Negation, Perception>Spells:Corruption: Boundary, Overvoice, Stagnation, Strengthen Paradox, Refraction, Identity BlurNegation: Concealment, Dispel, CancelPerception: Intuition, Reality Check, Live Ahead, Fate Trace, Metaknowledge EngineConvention: Discreet Aegis, Mind Offload>Equipment:Sacrificial Dagger, Hidden Sanctuary, Heir's NightmareEntirely focused on casting Metaknowledge Engine as soon as possible as discreetly as possible to use Mnemonic Sense and Mind Offload to learn everything I need to GET OUT.>Covenant:Ark>Allies:Fermin>Mission:At Doom's Gate
>>96448608Yes
>>96448574Wiki also emphasizes on 11.
>>96448614Sakura petals fall over midnight:Questing near in dearest hallsI turn and hear a dewdrop fallsAnd echo of a number strikes my earsBut looking close and seeing trueWithin my mind a shadow flewAnd without word I move to save my peers"Hideous bile", my arrow fliesI point at words and point out liesFor honest coat should not a liar wearOh maiden fair with heart of goldDo explain the lies you toldA number count, should sum the sum that's there
>How are you going to->Not my problem, I'm fucking my waifusOuter Tide was a mistake.
>>96448665Why of course, dearest Anonymous.The Other One posits that the Godnames contain 11 distinct characters and even lines them up for us. I will now take you right along through it:J - 1 letterN - 2P - 3L - 4Y - 5M - 6R - 7D - 8S - 9R - Already have RT - 10R - Already have R0 - 110 - Already have 0This doesn't mean it's valid, only that Anon was being coherent. 0 is not a valid character in the first place, which would leave us at 10 distinct characters that are valid.When using CHRL instead, we arrive at 12.You likely didn't account for the qualifier "distinct" and went on to count the characters, which are indeed 14 instead of 11.
>>96448668It's the indifference that makes it funWe all partake in war chicken, where the first to flinch has to resolve the problemsUnless you have a lord build, in which case you are about to be assassinated
>>96448520Very perspective of you anon.>>96448533After looking into it seems that Da'ath is basically of the all ten sefirot united as one. And is sometimes even substituted for the keter, both have interesting implications...>>96448546interesting conjecture>>96448556This reminds how Yee (11) is basically the inverse of Az (1). So by that logic AzAz would just be Yee again. The 11th tarot card is Justice, which honestly has more commonalities with 0^0 than anything since its all about causality and stuff. Also Abrahadabra reminds me of True Drakonic Solipsism.
>>964486800 is a mathematical character.
>>96448705T-thanks, you are very perspective as well. I hope. Assuming a cogito spawns its own.
>>96448680No I miss counted the r’s and then started provoking youA funnier interpretation would be that in dropping punctuation from my original message I was implying the misspelling of 0^0 was invalid I love spending time with youAlso, I don’t think characters are necessarily letters. I feel like that term is used specifically to generalise but I don’t care enough to look it up
>>96447729Nah, I'd say it's a good time. The OR discussion has simmered down a bit and any OC would get a good amount of discussion. I say this as someone who likes OR, but I also like other CYOAs.
>>96448705>since its all about causality and stuffWhat are the consequences of Charlotte's actions?
>>96448705>Very perspective of you anony-you too…
>>96448668Those who don't participate in taking down Charlie will be purged first so they don't swoop in and reap all the rewards from the either exhausted or dead anons who did all the hard work after Charlie dies.
>>96448714I was specifically thinking about God-script letters as valid characters. The contrast between the names is stark, and Charly iss the mathemagic freak so humoring her should be taken with a grain of salt when looking for systemic references.Now excuse me while I go frame the chatgpt poem
>>96448665nta butFour gods, existence their aghastEach one more vile than the lastWhite lies, red rope and purple coatAll shackled by the chains of goldWith choices made, lives be undoneAssumed mask becomes the faceForever chasing to enrichThe twenty-one grams of yourselfThe play resets each time you fallFor their story be retoldEach choice is fuel to the gameYou are like them, nightmare clad
https://fabrizen.neocities.org/RICYOA4/CurrentFound this OC.
>>96448734I wrote that!Don’t be mean(Well, don’t be mean like that anyway)
>>96448727Comfybros...
>>96448727Don't be like that, anon. A victory for one of us is a victory for all of us.
>>96448735Pandaemonium's anthem.
>>96448680Bro, numbers are characters. It's not just the letters of the alphabet.
>>96448744Then you are capable in a way that made me call hax, and that's the highest compliment this constellation can give I suppose.Glad you are gifted with words in the same way I am with counting!
>>96448769Numbers arent God-script. That is a specific plot point in the cyoa
>>96448745You can have you're comfy life after insuring Charlie is dead.>>96448755No, DEATH TO ALL FREELOADERS!
>>96448781Stop whining and kill the bitch already.
>>96448780That's irrelevant
>>96448773<3
>>96448788Atlas shrugged
>>96448780If you look closely, you will see that the 0^0 on the first page with the god names is in fact written using On.
>>96448727They're not only freeloaders but also make defeating 0w0 harder by blocking potentially useful ally picks.
>>96448788>kill the bitch already.you first
>>96448804First come first served.
>>96448803Now that's valid and a good & meaningful point, I concede>he heHah hah
On the matter of On, how can one exploit the immortality this grants in conjunction with a younger sibling?
>>96448727a yes the good old outer tide infighting, the tide is just going to eat itself in their ideological infighting, firs the comfybros and waifufags, than the uruks, than the E nomini vs the Ameno, then just the overall disagreements on how the post Charlie world should be structured or who will rule which kingdom and how. While 0^0 is just laughing sitting in her pillar.
>>96448739>Circumstances:Time: Spectral WorldNemesis>Background:Mortal>Power:Tribulation King>Aptitude and Special Physiques:Sovereign Immortal Physique>Safety:Wrath of Heaven>Attainments:Supreme Grandmaster: Heaven, RefinementGreat Grandmaster: FormationMaster: WisdomHeaven's Will immediately gets fucked as it is no longer the Supreme Grandmaster of Heaven path. Tribulations and subtle omnipresent manipulation are gone.I refine myself to rank 6 in a day, rank 8 in two, and rank 9 in three.
What's the ideal size of a tide? I like 11 11ths.
>>96448835Those focused on taking down 0^0 far outnumber the freeloaders. It would be a cakewalk to remove them from the equation before focusing on what matters.
>>96448849Yourself and your waifus.
>>96448849All of them, especially the overlapping ones for the funny sibling rivalries.
>>96448668Tide is retarded because overlapping choices means you're getting multiple tides. Suddenly youre in marvel multiverse slop.
>>96448835Don't care, O^O is going to perish when the kalpa ends and the world resets, while the cultivation (Praise be with JPNL) I do by living a story with the bros will bring me closer to true ascension.
>>96448849*Checks the number of builds* 50
>>96448854Give me a list of the freeloaders.
>he wants to party with some NPCsYou have a full 18 years to kill Charlie with One, Keter, Savmak, and Vtorusha. You can’t manage that?
>>96448791I hope we end up in the same tide-world
>>96448866We can't touch builds bro...
>choosing female in TideBad idea lol
>>96448860Multiple stories told in distinct canons of the same basic setting does not in any way imply a connected multiverse.
>>96448883Sure thing little buddy
>>96448849I would like something about 20, but I don't know if it will ever happenSome overlap would honestly be fine
>>96448872>only earth people are worth my time
>>96448901Chill out Dei, getting more extreme doesn't suit you. Act your age.
>>96448901The Earth people chosen by fate? When you have to defeat another Earth person chosen by fate.Yeah. Total EarthGOD supremacy.
>>96447883Does Dobrava work with By Design? Her special ability says for you to ignore associated characters, so it shouldn't be possible to actually get the deathslotless everlasting reward for it.
>>96448860ah yes, because forcing anons to change their build because you already took the companion "poopybutt the 3rd" is totally going to work
>>96448901The others are props for our stories.
>>96448891>franchise brainrot
>>96448872All of those except One suck dick. And One bites the dust the moment you become an adult so...
>>96448915By design is not really a normal encounter, rather a way to give a character Everlasting if you so desire. As you said, since she doesn't actually interact with anyone, I wouldn't consider it valid, or rather it would be wasted on her. But it's up to interpretation.
>>96448975Vtorusha’s mech still scares the shit out of charlie thoughever
>>96448931Everyone but me is a prop for my stories. I am the only real person.
>>96448985>>96448931"This world is fiction. We are the only things that are real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what we do to others.No matter how depraved or horrible our actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.There is only us, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly can. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."—11th Outsider
>>96448985How very perspective of you.
>>96448835No, our hatred for a woman will suppress our ideological differences, we shall be Human, Elves, Majin, Pixies and even Uruks united under the same banner. The only ones who'll kill each other will be the ones trying to fuck 0^0, and they'll most likely die anyways.After thar, Royal Claim outsiders can play Crusader Kings with each other, most people will just train and love their waifus.
>>96448983Yeah but there's a 50% chance of Vtorusha vaporising your ass after getting done with Charlotte.
>>96449013>play Crusader Kings with each otherDamn straight. The 12th will have an amazing array of bloodlines to choose from.
>>96449015If Vtorusha is hostile it'd be unlikely to be due to your Outsider status, and more just her being driven absolutely mad. So she wouldn't target you specifically, just start attacking the world itself out of madness.
>>96448983If I use someone else's magnum opus to win, how am I superior? No. Charlotte will die. The sword will be unmade. The mecha will be destroyed. Keter will Yat herself. One will die fo old age.
>>96448975>And One bites the dust the moment you become an adult so...Untimeskip Feodwra's time magic and hurl yourself into future before that happens
>>96449046>One instantly diesWhat now?
>>96448720(You)
>>96449071Only if (You) are a tide, otherwise the outsider system is just running along the script the old hags set out for you.Random thought: Zwa and the Three Empire-Hags mirror the gods
Charlotte's mother was a descendant of One, wasn't she?
>>96448857>funny sibling rivalries.It's a damn shame Tankista is so against this
Anyone got any thoughts on Simimar?
>>96448931>>96448995Unironically my builds plan
>>96449028So she just becomes 0^0_2.0, what's the point?
>>96449118Winning.
>>96449091She was a descendant of Mithra, who was One's Mentor. However, One also had Icon of Icons, which implies his Mentor was his ancestor, unless Mithra had some way to impart the gift, though we know he wasn't his direct father.
>>96449099Yes, he's the only way to get two x3 Inborn Gifts in the cyoa.
>>9644872010 retards full of meta knowledge spawning to kick her was while she couldn't kill even one. And some others that will try to redeem (rape) her ass.
>>96449118Letting them exhaust each other, then taking care of two problems at once
>>96448983Go ahead and fix her mech. I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
>>96449121Winning is useless if you just create another bigger problem immediately after solving the last.
>>96449135Like 8 and 3 took each other out
>>96449122You have the ability to also gain Icon of Icons without descending from anyone who has it. This doesn't mean much.
>>96449139It's 12th's problem.
>>96449137Instramentality is easy to escape unless you have a poor sense of self.
>>96449081The Outsider system likely picks an Outsider appropriate to the story of the day. That's the only reasonable way it can handle Vedi -- it's not going to mind control the next outsider into picking you, it's just going to pull an Outsider out of cold storage that it knows will choose you as a mentor. (Incidentally, this is why evil Vedi gets you Sarmat'd)
>>96449147>he isnt immortal
>>96449139>>96449147Worst comes to worst, YMRD can just reset the world anyway
>>96449161Still 12th problem. I'm retired
>>96449161>he isn't immoral
>>96449162>Meh, let's kill everyone. Problem solved.You're not fit to save the world.
>>96449174Good thing the plans to destroy it then
>>96449168This attitude will get you picked by 12 as a mentor or companion if you aren't completely useless. Walking plothook. Stock characteresque. You will die to spur character growth in someone elses story.
What's the chance of Outer Tiders meeting each other's? How would they even know someone else is an Outsider, and not just some rambling retard (who isn't and Outsider)? Does All-Glimpse reveal that?
>>96449189>He's still going to have a death slotactual jobber
>>96449168And you're gonna get Malice'd and you wife True Love'd
>>96449174I'm not here to save the world. It's all a reward for this shit life on Earth.
>>96449191Very high.Ask them about 4chan.Yes.
>>96449191Anyone with the chances provided during character creation will be heard of by the entire continent at the very least. So it stands to reason they will run into each other at some amazing palace party at least
>>96449081The tides are following the same script as any other, you can not escape the hand of the hags it's all part of the plot.
>>96449191High due to Fate bullshit.Ask something about Earth.Most likely.
>>96449204But the Tides are a first, so they could be construed as a reaction to lil charly
>>96449191Just check if they know some Earth stuff. All-Glimpse does let you read minds so you should be able to tell if someone's faking.
>>96449218>>96449210>>96449199>ask about the US president (easy)>Outsider doens't know>Either a faker or a third worlderWhat do?
>>96449217How many last-minute plots and schemes did the Elder Gods cook up against Charlie? Were they only a thing after Keter failed or did she just go "Nah I'd Win" and ignore all of them?
>>96449197>Wife>Implying I'm straight
>>96449231Kennedy Treatment
People are overhyping Keter. She ain’t all that.
>>96449234>or did she just go "Nah I'd Win" and ignore all of them?Do you even have to ask?
>>96449199>Ask them about 4chan>"That incel website? I saw this on r/makeachoice friend haha :)"What do?
>>96449231Being from Earth is the only thing that matters. I
>>96449189If you haven't reached immortality on your own you deserve whatever 12 hits you with. I'll mentor his dumbass then he's on his own.
>>96449231Ask them to name the greatest songs Hitler and Picasso ever made. If they fall for it, they're a fake.
>>96449122The Inborn Gifts given to you by the Outsider System are copied from existing one's possessed by living characters. That's why previous outsiders have different gifts throughout the ages.
>>96449249Abandon mission, 0^0 is an unworthy target in comparison. Exist solely to ruin this guys isekai
>>96449249It's time for war.
>>96449249>"Wew! I thought I was the only one!"
>>96449249See >>96449250We are the only real beings within a fictional world
>>96449091I asked Tank the other day and he specified that One left behind no children. His Icon of Icons was simply one of his choices.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96382689
>>96449249>"Hello, friend. My name is Erginter."
>>96449249Inquire opinions of puppers and le bacon to check pokerface. Must be one of you retards specifically trying to annoy me
>>96449234The elder gods let her win on purpose to build a better story.
>>96449279What if it's revealved that Earth is revealed to be a fabrication of the Elder Gods?
>Only you are the real thing to exist>Your builds become part of the narrative >Your build is the template the elder gods use for their outsider system while (you) stay on earthHow does it feel?
>>96449281>The previous Outsiders weren't Lineage maxxers>Only Tuzik had the needed vision for it
>>96449300>>96449301There are two kinds of people
>>96449301So YMRD made a clone of me and had sex with it?Sounds kind of based honestly
>>96449300Cope, Deny, SeetheWe are the only things that are real within my sight
>>96449301Later, virgins
>>96449301HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I GOT KEKED. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF NEURONS IN INTERCONNECTED STRANDS THAT FILL MY SKULL. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR THE GODS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT.FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
>>96449301How would I even find out about this?
>>96449312YMRD looks down on SRTR for writing smut, but she's also responsible for the rules of inborn gift inheritance. Which one is the real perv?
>>96449326Someone will tell you about it on an anonymous online messaging board with images
>>96449327YMRD is autistic prease understand
>>96449326I just told you, that's how. I've burdened you with the awareness, you're welcome.
>>96449301Good. I'm glad for my dimensional clone.>>96449300Daemonhost with Seo's mentorship, then incarnate all my family and friends as Majins.
>>96449326He just told you.
>>96449333I don't believe them
>>96449300Go deeper.You are fifth Elder God.The other Four are your friends and you take turns playing games.It is your turn to play a hero against big scary evil Antikrator.
>>96449335This whole world is 1000 years of foreplay to her
>>96449325Sir, are you aware you are a cat?
>>96449341Closing your eyes wont make it go away
>>96449338I don't believe you>>96449340I don't believe him>>96449349If I don't see proof of it then it's not real
>>96449346Freak teleporter accident. 1 in a billion. Probably the work of ymrd that fucking skank
>>96449339>incarnate all my family and friends as Majins.My dimensional clone will do the needful and bring ME over
>>96449355Anon... You're going to be ok.
>>96449342I'm Mithra? Damn, I might need to go re-ascend if this is what I came up with.
>>96449342TAKE OFFYOUR MASK
>>96449258Charlotte's profile tells you directly her mom is descended from Mithra.
>>96449342I'd believe that.Still, I wonder - what does an """""evil"""""" JNPL look like?
>>96449342Honestly that is probably what would happen. Being permaGM gets boring after a while
>>96449345Not her fault lesser minds cannot understand the allure of interconnected political drama. The formation, rule and collapse of the Eternal Kingdom was a pleasurable experience unlike any the current geopolitical climate could replicate.
>>96449373Stasis while people deteriorate their potentially divine souls with vice and decadence instead of meaningful lives pointed upwards. Like the average demiurge, or McDonalds.
>>96449380Damn, the moon has wifi?
>>96449355You don't have to believe. The virus is already in the back of your mind, a new reality set. You will continue on while your build lives an exciting life you designed for him. It's like having a child you don't know exists. You'll live your life unaware but that doesn't stop them from existing.
>>96449384Sounds really familiar...
>>96449408Don't look at the window Anon, the screen is your friend
>>96449301Eh, souls matter a bit too much for them to take only the builds. And it kind of robs the meaning of Az if some part of me isn't truly being reincarnated through the Outsider System, even the Gods are bound to the godscript/cannot create a logic error.
>>96449411I don't believe you.
>>96449416Thus, light was brought and received
>>96449403I can't believe SRTR's hiding my son from me
This is giving me an idea for a cyoa centered around not creating a build for yourself, but for your offspring.
>ssplit the Two-men peoples back into two as they originally wereI hate tankista
>>96449441I am getting that boy a waifu, Regardless of the cost
>>96449441Look up "Destined for Greatness" by nxtub. Same concept, you might get inspired.
>>96449339This is something I'd like to ask actually, do we have info on how viable it is to reincarnate individuals through daemonhost? I'm kind of considering it something possible but never done before on a consistent level, and was planning on it being the final ability I develop from a Yee Sha Death Letter given to a Dei mentor, but if it's actually easier than that to learn...
>>96449469It happens in one of the events, but it's called statistically improbable and it doesn't sound like there's a way to control for it.
>>96449469There is a freak instance in the Encounters, but don't expect to control it.Death would be devalued if you could just summon them back.
>>96449463As he should>>96449464I'll check it out, thanks. Now just trying to decide on magic system and type of world it would be.
>>96449469Meant Yee Shta damn it, this is literally the kind of mispelling that kills people.
>>96449469It's probably a one in a million chance that it happens. Dei is also unique in that her Buki let's her make remembrances so it's probably even harder for a different Daemonhost.
>>96449487Don't worry, it would have been a single letter!
>Half of Outer Tide 11s die in their first 100s due to misspelling lmao
>>96449499Pfff, skill issue. >t. Enochian Brand + Meandering Thought
>>96449441Outer Reincarnation DLC.You pick which Elder God you are with four others being presented by CYOA in role other players partaking in the game with you and they would do their own choices(like under the rules of with Outer Tide if you want to have somebody be your Charlie). The Pillar you pick determines how many points of Destiny/Ancestry you get to influence the world, determines access to specific events, investment into mortals, making big events happen, assigning Death Letters etc.
>>96449499That's why attentiveness + memory retention is mandatory and enochian brand fucks you in a billion+ different ways with varying gift comboes.
>>96449477>>96449481Good enough for me, means it was the right choice to put that amount of investment into it, and it's not like I plan to call forth long departed souls from the nether or anything like that, more like a panic option or as a quick race change for who wanted it. I imagine you can get way more with necromancy and undeath but I'm not really interested on going down that path.
>>96449499MartialGODS keep winning
>>96449477>statistically improbableSo 100% chane of it happening if [YMRD] is your companion then? Best god wins again.
>>96449536Relaying on Lady Luck will dry her up like nothing else
>>96449532Retard. If you're not playing around God-Script you might as well be irrelevant.
>>96449543>You can't rely on anything ever because muh meaning devaluesJust don't overuse it, lad. You're not gonna lose your legs beause you walk everyday.
>>96449554It's an established literary trope. Played on by Pratchett extensively with his cynical wizard, and in less fictional manner by Machiavelli, Aristotle just to name two
>>96449549Enjoy getting turned inside out, asshole first
>>96449564It's also an estabilished anime trope that (You) win and get a harem, so?
>>96449554It's more than that, she will simply find the whole endeavor boring. She will help you cheat the dice occasionally to get a wild result if the situation is interesting enough, she won't just make all your rolls be perfect just because, at that point it's not a matter of Chance only cheating.
>>96449578She cheated for Yphont and Omega. She'll do it for us.
>>96449571It's also an established anime trope that your story gets a setup but neither a climax nor a conclusion, the former being mirrored in your room right about now
>>96449536Doesn't work. If you get exactly what you ask of Chance, it's not Chance. She helps you, but only in ways that you don't expect.
>>96449590My room has no setup?
>>96449595Pretty sure the but sufficiently splits the sentence, I made my jokes though so I wont argue the case
>>96449588They’re cuter than we are
>>96449609I took Ethereal Beauty. I'm the cutest.
how much prep time does he need to solo Charlie?
>>96449609>didn't take Ethereal BeautyEnjoy being a side character.
Eventually there will be an Outsider who spent all his points on Multiocular O, various eyes, and All Glimpse because he didn’t read the full descriptions.
>>96449614Very little, he can repurpose one of his existing contingencies for her
>>96449519Would be a fun DLC
>>96449622Nah, the Outsider system will slap some sense into him before he commits.
>>96449622That's literally that Savmak companion girl.
>>96449554the power of meaning has been crippled since the fall of the pillar of providence, it is now obselete to the pillar of causality, got to embrace Mathemagics and reduce meaning to bare numbers. Then all will be in order again a pure numbers game.
>>96449622Sorry JNPL, but some people just can't be saved
>>96449614He'd master the God-Script in a year then drip feed his disstrack from a distance over the course of a week before purposefully activating Buki for the final blow.
>>96447183Are the trolls in this setting the kind that have regeneration?
>>96449638So Blazing Seal is useless? Got it.
How do Adoption and Sibling interact?
>>96449614About 5 seconds to sway her with the Bat Charm and harden the Bat Dick.
>>96449588>YphontThe world lost its Meaning after she died.Everything must burn.
>>96449641Doesn't seem like it. Just a particular form of Uruk mudgolem
tidefags would 100% fall for this bait and get ganked by ecumene spies
Do you guys think the Exarchate has pizza and cheeseburgers?
>>96449666>refused to matter by becoming the Queen>doomed Xian the GOAT because of reading comprehension>easy pickings for Erginter LMAO
Give me some possible races you would like your future offspring to be. No angel, demon, mech or undead.>Dragon>Elf>Human>Tengu>Slime?
>>96449643Of course not, it increases your use number, no meaning devaluation here, just pure numbers as we know having the bigger number is the best, so blazing seal is good, since it helps number go up
>>96449687Mermaids.
>>96449679Nah, i'd All-Sight.
>>96449687High humanI love those kinds of things
>>96449687Kitsune.
>>96449679>Ecumene is filtering out the retardsGood.
>>96449666Just adopt Jarnigit, she's housing Yphont Meaning now. You could even slowly mold her into Yphont physically with the right gifts and death letter.
>>96449687What does "Tengu" entail?
>>96449679It's just asking about our old country, anyone in the Exarchate would. They need to make better traps lol
>>96449687Why not mech/robot? Seems like a fun play on offspring to explore? Might take homuculi or something more frankenstein for the same thoughLikewise, why no demon or angel bs? If I'd want to fuck the mother (likely), my offspring would carry that progeny just as well.Undeath might be a negation of the core choice, choosing oneself over offspring, but too many people would blindly take that for muh power so I can see the exclusion.Either way, Monster Girl Boys (monsters)
>>96449693>>96449697Added>>96449696Adding but what kind of high human? Superior strength and build or superior beauty or superior intellect? You know what, I may make each into sub races of humans.
>>96449696That's just a Tolkien Elf
>>96449641They are extremely big and resistant being compared to small hills and almost impossible to beat before gunfire was a thing, but there's no mention of regeneration.
>>96449707>believable premiseThat's what makes it a good trap.
>>96449638Might as well attempt to lobotomize the world, as long as anything remotely similar to the human mind exists meaning will spring forth undaunted again and again, see the mathemagicians reel back at the mere mention of numerology.
>>96449715Better int longer lifespan, and If at all possible genetic memoryI fucking love genetic memory and the stronger the better. My finest moments should literally be carved into my blood
>>96449705More avian humanoid and less straight up bird head.>>96449714Because of the way I'm setting it up and those states are something that can be obtained later.
>>96449687Don't forget to make an incest route.
>>96449736Sorry, best we could do was giving your bloodline a collective memory for cringe teenage moments
>>96449687Eldritch horror.
>>96449725I feel a lot of people ignore the power of firearms, it doesn't seem there's a quick bulletproof spell out there as they seem to think and witchshot states that it will keep shooting until the target is shredded apart. Considering the Ecumene is all about firepower they are bound to bring as many guns as possible.
>>96449749...But that's just a cute girl?
>>96449750Guns are gay.
>>96449742ObviouslyThe generational harems and incest don't even need to be implied
>>96449750bulletproof skinmartialchads win YET. AGAIN.
>>96449750Bulletproof Skin
>>96449755Exactly.
>>96449687>drider/arachne (because sometimes 2 feet are not enough)>lamia (because sometimes 2 feet are too many)>gazer (because eye powers are cool)
>>96449750Witchshot is also underestimated
>>96449765>>96449767That's the point, I heard a lot of people here calling it worthless or too expensive when it's the best protection on an open battlefield.
>>96449755Of course.
>>96449736Genertic memory is good, I'll add it>>96449749Stop posting disgusting images but I'll see if something similar can be achieved. >>96449777Added and I'll make something work with gazer.
>>96449740>Because of the way I'm setting it up and those states are something that can be obtained later.I see you, in that case I am throwing in elementals, genii loci (perhaps as classic Nymphs/Dryads or citiy divinities), hiveminded insect beings.Are you going for a civilization builder vibe or something more focused and personal?
Threads are slowing down. Fun while it lasted.
>>96449792>disgusting imagesDon't call my daughter disgusting.
>>96449687Tulpas/Thoughtforms
>>96449750Zlata’s spells beat guns.Until the Ecumene mather dispels them
>>96449782>open battlefieldIf you have a comfy build, or a research build, or a claimant build, or do your own obssession in Bumblefuck, Doria, chances are you don't need it.
>>96449750Warmachina Mounting lol
There are too many eyes that I want to buy if I’m going multiocular. What a dilemma.
I wish we had a better idea of what it took to evade the death letters. I know we just have to interpret them in a different way, but it's unclear how much of Charlottes statements are part of the letter, and how much is her interpreting it in a particular way. I know it's not supposed to be easy, but it seems like each suggestion gets dismissed as "unlikely" or "very difficult to get right" or something.My best idea is using Iotated lesser Yus to split myself off from something, maybe nightmare corruption, infection or whatever.I just wish we had a bit more direction.
>>96449794Noted on those options. Personal and focused. Your offspring is meant for great or terrible things in this world (up to you).Working idea is that some divine entity wants to bring you to this world, but can't because reasons, so they take part of you to put into a woman of your choice into this world for this child to be born. I'm considering the idea of (you) being born as your own grandchild or ancestor who will live in the world your child has shaped.
>>96449851You're the one writing the story, at the end of the day. Choose your Own Adventure.
>>96449837>Weak to chainsawNot even worth mentioning
>>96449873You are also weak to chainsaw
Ecumene chuds have muskets and cannons (at best) because Charlie is a coping midwit. Meanwhilt Vtorusha is rocking some sort of cursed steampunk AK.If you aren’t a nogunz retard you could easily make an automatic rifle, or at least get some dwarf to do it for you. I’d make a magic grenade launcher and a railgun for my warmachina, obviously.>>96449873Put a giant chainsword on your mech
>>96449852Sounds good and ambitious in juggling possible story lines for offspring, godspeed. Make sure to include a virgin birth to close some circles. Maybe the idea of "mother" can be stretched in regards to constructs or even undeath as being recipient of your uhhhhhhhhh flame.Another thought: how about becoming a god via your offspring creating a cult in your honor, keeps the indirectness and might offer an alternative to later incarnation.
>>96449851You don't avoid them, you play into them and have a plan to come back. Not all death letters are really "death".
>>96449782It’s worthless because it activates too late. Basically all your defenses must be penetrated for it to activate. This makes it complete garbage unless you’re focused on being a warrior who uses his body to block attacks. It also eventually becomes worthless against competent mages as they will figure out the speed limit, so it’s shit for long battles.If it was a field that affects everything 2 meters away from your body with the option of tuning it to not affect certain things (like your own attacks), it would be good.
>>96449837Speaking of Warmachines, did anyone catch where the Tempo-Achaean one was lost?I thought it was the one in New New York lake but checking Sarmat profile again it was actually from an Aeolian.
>>96449851The general idea is that instead of “your biological life ceases as a result of x” you want to get a “your role in the story as who you were ended as a result of x” kind of ‘death’
Look of chaos breaks your warmachines and your guns on top of your spell casting. As long as you don't get hit woth pocket sand winning is in the bag.
>lesser yus majin>>96449916Loses to martialchad tard rage
>>96449889No to first, yes to second.
>>96449900We are not taking about mages or intentionally blocking things with your body anon, people will shoot at you with a common gun and kill you just as easily as anyone else. Just that people assume there's a super bulletproof spell that makes the gift redundant, if that were the case guns wouldn't be the game breaker they are.
>>96449925>Implying I'm not also a martial tard with funny eyesLet's go
>>96449916Also it wouldn’t work on Warmachina, since the warmachina itself breaks LOS with the pilot.
>>96449948Why did you make this comment if you haven’t read what Look of Chaos does?
>>96449938Guns aren’t a game breaker. Maybe for the average peasant with no gifts or abilities, but any remotely magical build would counter it. There’s specifically defensive forcefield magic in the cyoa.
>>96449948
>>96449962>chambers magic bulletWhat now nerd?
>>96449960>>96449964I would just close my eyes so you couldn’t see me
>>96449964Does this disable uruks
>>96449969>*teleports behind you*heh… nothin personnel, kid
>>96449977Whoever is using Look of Chaos on anon, please stop.
>>96449983Sasuga, anon-sama. But this is all according to keikaku
>>96449892Thats what I meant, how do you "play into" death by a curse, death by sickness, death by betrayal, death by 'falling into a coma (it's not you even if you wake up again).>Ot can be treated as ‘death by being written out of the story’ – magical prisons, seals, and so on. But also other things which could be derived from distance from the metaphorical point of view. >Yphont leveraged her chosen death to her advantage, reinterpreting it as containment for the Uruk and a magical retirement for herself. In a way, this also counts as proper “dodging” of death by playing into it, which is why Yphont was able to just keep going around and doing stuff in the world.We don't have access to Ot, so we can't do that. How am I supposed to play into "death by collosal natural disaster" in such a was as to dodge it. If I dodge it, it's not death.
>>96449982Probably only if you take 2. But they are already based retards, so I don’t imagine it would change them much if at all.
>>96449962They literally allowed nations to stop the Uruk tide and Tankista mentioned several times that it is meant to be rather low fantasy, the idea of super mages soloing armies isn't part of the setting.Again you believe there's a convenient and accesible bulletproof spell when nothing points to it other than Zlata rather expensive mentoring and she's unique in that regard.
>>96449995fair lmfao
>>96449982Probably not since they are not intelligent design but could disable an Outsider uruk
>>96449996There are giant mechs that can summon tornadoes. Super mages soloing armies is absolutely a thing. Muskets are not some earth shattering game breaker to anyone but illiterate mudhutters.
>>96449996Such super mages DO exist, they're just very limited, rare, special. Someone like Charlotte.
>>96449982Single eye definitely does not. It’s only for sapient targets and Human Goodness declares that uruks are not sapient. Two eyes could be argued. I would say no personally.
>>96449994Become the natural disaster.
>>96449782I did consider Bulletproof Skin since with Unburnt Hide it would allow me to survive an explosion (theoretically), but when you got options like Dead Sprint which can revive you from being killed and is an easy source of healing that doesn't require casting, it's hard to justify it. Its cool for tank builds but a lot of people are going to go for dexfags or casters since you don't want to just sponge damage, you'd also want to dish it out. It's hard to combo it with other options too as beyond Unburnt Hide, how much defense do you really want and why isn't your defenses enough to deal with other threats? Like Entrenchment would be stepping on Bulletproof Skin's niche because then you are just relying on Entrenchment to work in melee range where its weakest, it's really only an option if you think that projectiles are a particular vulnerability of your build. Like maybe if I became a Giant with JNPL as my mother it'd be a great option cause I'd worry more about getting sniped vs a sword the size of a toothpick slicing me up but even still its expensive.
>>96449996Anon, this is a setting where without one of two special gifts you can only ever use the barest level of magic, and where merely having both gifts makes you a super special elite wizard. Just the ability to actually create and cast spells on your own. It's not that higher levels of super wizardry don't exist, it's that 99% of people don't have the genes for it so for them a magic gun is a big deal.
>>96450009Good points. When it comes to interpretation, I would argue that they are meant to be constructed minds and p-zombies in direct reference to artificial minds and would be the very core of the two-eye description.This has just about 0 practical application though
>>96450007>There are giant mechs that can summon tornadoes.Literally just one that cannot be replicated now, and those were the own author words not mine. Butfeel free to think yourself immune to being sniped.
>>96449994Just because it says death doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I suspect Yat said almost exactly the same thing before 0^0 and we know that Rhucuphre beat it.
>>96449994I can only think that you'd lose basically everything from the disaster. Your home, your resources, scattering your allies, essentially being sent back to 0. Even then I don't think it'd be enough. It's why I think other anons saying stuff like reviving after death with simple magic is easy enough to dodge their death runes. It's a Final Death for a reason. Whatever your story is needs to end, and at the very least you as a person need to change from who you are now and continue on another path to have that old version of you considered "dead"
>>96449994You have a way to come back. For example Sigard knows how to ressurect people under certain conditions. If you die during a natural disaster and they find your body, Sigard could bring you back thus fulfilling your letter since you died. You could also find other ways of immortality. Fiert allows you to bodyswap, you can be eaten by something powerful and take it over, you can adopt a new role in life for that to be considered death, you can have a friend posses you for a day then return your body, you could use Inga's research to find other ways, you could use eye of fore to avoid your death temporarily giving you time to come up with a plan and DID I MENTION SIGARD?
>>96450027>I'm gonna snipe you with a smoothbore musketDo you not understand the point of fate in this CYOA?Yes, you ARE immune to being killed that way. No gifts, no magic, no nothing needed. You will live to see your fate.
>>96449851There's always Keter. Buki's the most straightforward: (1) Meet Charlie (2) Survive
>>96450042I forgot to add that Keter will help you find loopholes in your letters
>>96450054You don't even have to fight her, technically. You could just Grey Wandering away while she does her edgy villain monologue.
>>96450014If you think Vtorusha is the source of the nightmare, then she did that, but it doesn't seem like a pleasant existance.
>>96450024That’s fair. My own read is just to see uruks as ‘simple intelligent system’ instead of a ‘complex intelligent system’ but I’m not opposed to someone who sees it the other way
>>96450042Why do you assume any death you come back from counts for fulfilling your death letter?
>>96449964I always wondered how much of (you) needs to be visible to be affected, like if I'm behind a paper-thin wall then it would obviously not work but what if I have full-body armor or a very big cloak? technically they cannot see me but would my clothing count as a part of me?
>>96450066Your view is actually funnier so I will adopt it. Too dumb to break down.
>>96450050NTA but what about after? Also nothing really stops you from getting shot, you just won't die from it. Still can lose an eye, get shot in the stomach and get an infection, so on and so forth. Fate really ain't that much of a shield I'd rely on, just because Dobrava can pull it off doesn't mean you can and even she has limits.
>>96450071Heavily implied through the cyoa and based on previous Outsiders and Companions/Mentors/etc.
Reminder: until you encounter your Death Letter, you're unkillable, but not invulnerable. Don't get reckless and cripple yourself.
>>96450092Heavily implied to have gone wrong too, and going "haha I died but I lived" isn't quite the pinnacle of sophistication. I'd aim for liminal states rather than resets, personally.
>>96450093jobber talk
>>96450050You can still be hurt though. The goblin encounters mentions that, while you will survive no matter what, you are not guaranteed surviving it unscathed and it may have consequences for you down the line.Thinking your fate makes you immune to anything bad happening is how you get a Charlie style childhood.
>>96450042It might not count if Sigard revives you.
>>96450042Planning to have someone rez you after you die is literally the exact opposite of how YMRD tells us to beat fated death
>>96450039>Whatever your story is needs to end, and at the very least you as a person need to change from who you are now and continue on another path to have that old version of you considered "dead"Yeah this seems like the right interpretation
>>96450100It's either use fate to your advantage by working with it or work against it which causes even more problems and dire consequences.
>take gremlin encounter for an easy destiny point>fucker stabs out my magical eye
>>96450078I imagine it counts as you so long as you're the one moving it around, but if you take off your cloak and throw it to break line of sight, that would work.
>>96450131>Can't annihilate an entire army of gremlins by his 3rd birthdayJobber, hope you remembered to take Humilitas
If you:>picked Maiosara as mother>picked Ifet as father>did the keter trick>took Icon of Icons with too many companions>did the Dobrava cheese>have Daemonhost>learn True Drakonic Solipsism>took every Malady>too All-Glimpse>took Buki>did not take Ethereal BeautyYou are never going to make it narratively.
>>96450145>Waa! Stop making better builds than me!
>>96450113I think it would. Siggard uses Phonixization where it describes the ability to flop Yat back to Az. You have to die in order to be revived. Since letters like Zhivete exists, it implies that death, even if avoided, still counts.
>>96450090>>96450108>pixie chads literally cannot loseThere are various methods of regeneration, as mentioned by missed shape.
>>96450164Anon you realize that you still lose the gift in there right? So yeah you can get healed but you're not getting that eye or arm gift, which is why you're still getting crippled.
Remember anons, the only correct build is one with maxed missed shape, buki, all your points burned away, and Charlie as your mentor so you can 1v1 her as soon as possible. If you make any other build you're playing the cyoa wrong.
>>96450145>JNPL mother>One father>Ethereal Beauty>Icon of Icons>Noble Inclination>Bukithe cannon protagonist
>>96450171Thanks C-anon, I will member promise
>>96450173Don't forget to take Zhuchika to make a religion based off of you, bossting your icon of icons.
>>96450169I'm talking about the description of Missed Shape, not actually taking it...It mentions that there are other methods of regeneration that could normally restore limbs, provided that you do not have missed shape (and even then there are options)...
>>96450169Please stop making the Feodwrafags even more superior, they're insufferable enough
>>96450180That's too evil, I think.No companions, a true protagonist would find them naturally.All Uruk encounters, because of course
>>96450145Comfybros are we back?
>>96450192>That's too evilnta but Zhuchka's entire thing is that after the Old Throne handed her her ass, she became a humaboo and copied parts of their atheist religion while throwing out all the evil parts of her mage-cult to make something new.
>>96450171Anyone who makes a build without Meandering Thought, Enochian Collar and SRTR’s blessing to take R’tsy as his death is a coward as far as I’m concerned.
If you don't take "One" he is never revived as an undead.If you don't take Feodwra, does she still exist in the world?
>>96450192Now that's just asking for it
>>96450173>Cha buildRemember to go Northerner too
>>96450187Anon that still applies normally. If you had two far grazes and someone chopped off your arm, and you down the line healed it back and regrew it, you'll only have the far graze on the other arm. Gifts are inherently connected to your body, the physical parts. It gets destroyed or cut off, its gone.
>>96450192>a true protagonist would find them naturally.I am pretty sure it's the opposite. Any companion you find outside of fate's decree is "unnatural" while those you choose are not. Though a true protagonist would still be worthy of their friendship and not resting on point buy laurels.
>>96450173>Jesus buildBoring.
>>96450164Pixie only respawn if they die. I don't think goblins prefer dead women to living ones. On the bright side Charlie will most likely take pity on you. She doesn't like killing broken people like Ciliren on Keter.
>>96450204She probably appears at another undisclosed point in the future regardless if she's never picked up by an outsider. Same as Su'uq remaining in dream limbo unless you pick her, which is a rather cruel fate for a cute wifeable fairy.
>>96450211>not resting on point buy laurels.tbf the cyoa mentions several times that there's nothing forcing anyone to stay with you if you're terrible. After you hit adult age anyway, you can still force Charlie to be your reluctant buddy until then.
>>96449750Guns in this setting are generally single-shot muzzle-loaded guns and pistols. Dangerous, but there's a reason Iraidia still carries a sword.Defensive magic is also as common as the demonhunt. You don't even need to spend a mentor on it; it says in the Youth section that it's free if you join up. If that's not your style, All-Glimpse or Mlata's training could also help you steal the secret.
>>96450210Just to continue, that's why I'm saying you can still be injured badly or even crippled, just not killed. Being crippled not only traditionally, but also by losing your gifts because you got blinded and lost both your Eyes of Chaos, arms cut off and lost your Mitigating Grips, and your legs losing your Esurient Walks.You can still be healed back from that, but your gifts will not return, and you've effectively crippled yourself as an Outsider because one of your biggest strengths besides mapping out your fate is access to all your gifts.
I'm afraid Outsiders will rape me...
>>96447183>>96447193Which builds are murdered by the yandere 12th?
>>96450210Where does it say that?
>>96450234Don't try to reason with a gunfag, logic and reason go out the window the moment even the most rudimentary firearm enters the picture. Even gods need to cower before a flintlock pistol.
>>96450236Candles or flowers, choose one
>>96450244It's funny because there are actual, modern firearms in the setting, yet he chooses to wank flintlocks
>>96450240Tank himself, and the fact that every single method of healing in the CYOA says "This cannot restore Lost Gifts".>>96383514
>>96450237Ethereal beauty bros...
>>96450237We should make a mock-up image build for Twelth honestly.
>>96450255Sorry Anon, this is fictional life. The ugly bastard gets the girl
>>96450254Everlasting doesn't say that...
>>96450254That's super gay. Keter should have no blessings by now. Neither should any Pixie characters.
>>96450118Not true. She tells you that you can't simply avoid the letter by hoping that it will never trigger. Savmak tried to avoid betrayal by staying alone, denying fate the opportunity to act. Fulfilling his fate (dying by betrayal) but having a contingency in place (a loyal friend who can resurrect him) is a different strategy.
>>96450264Point refunds a eugenics chad, language refunds a linguist, begs jnpl on her hands and knees to let her have ethereal beauty, and then true loves every single outsider still living
>>96450282What's the point of a linguist build
>>96450282>Point refunds a eugenics chadI don't want her
>>96450292well good, because you're giving her up for adoption
>>96450279No, she says that you can't just evade the letter. You have to reinterpret it in a meaningful way. Having someone raise you right after you die is the most meaningless way to try and avoid it, if it was that easy, ever outsider would still be alive.
>>96450292What if it was a useless 'all legs' build?
>>96450292It was a sacrifice she needed to makeAlthough it would be funnier if she had some sort of combo perk that made her children era defining
Honestly, I headcanon away the Inborn Gifts being tied to the limb itself for the purpose of losing them without it.Always felt that was rather stupid. It would just lead to tons of mutilated people running about from the nations punishing abuse with dismemberment.
>>96450270I think getting delimbed would be out of the realm of "most injuries" but who knows, maybe the gods don't want their precious new champion to become boring without their gifts.>>96450272Empyreans might have something special with their bodies considering that they can just come back and it really doesn't seem as simple as burning it to ash and being done with it. Though then again Omega is noted for being extra special in being able to pop back into existence even without a body implying that its still an option to blend it into a slurry and scatter it into the ocean.Or maybe she doesn't anymore. She still has mostly mental gifts though to rely on, even if she had a full loadout of limb gifts too.
>>96450282>Point refunds a eugenics chadThat's gonna cuck them out of all the good gifts lmao.
>>96450264She should be an Aranea who can give birth from several fathers at once with he egg clutches.
>>96450306>'all legs' buildan aranea?
>>96450327No, the competition is the best part(Narratively, it sucks for the people actually participating)
>>96450327>She shouldNo. Why.
do you get both racial bonuses with halfbreed?
>>96450318>I think getting delimbed would be out of the realm of "most injuries"It's not worth -6 points then
>>96450204One will still be revived as undead at some point in the future. He still has a Yee + Zemlya to resolve; fate will just wait for another opportunity and try again.Nothing about Feodwra indiciates that you taking her is the thing that causes her to appear. She's probably still somewhere in the world like most mentors/companions; fate is just not going to arrange a meeting for you.
>>96450343Yes
>>96450315You realize that most people don't have Gifts right. The characters we get to select as parents in the Outsider System were explicitly stated to be because of the gifts they offered, and even the Mentors are notable figures because they were able to climb ahead with their gifts, at least for a good amount of them.Why just charge them with some special punishment when you can do it normally? That's kind of fucked up to mutilate people as a punishment, especially because its not like healing at the level of repairing lost limbs is super accessible.
>Ratha mom>Vesryn dad>Eirina mentor>Ciliren companions>Legal Terms And Conditions encounter>Ethereal Beauty, Noble Inclination, Icon of IconsWithout (((Eldar))) leadership, Doria will not survive.
>>96450343Yes>>96450264She must have heterochromia and be half emperean half majin, (with 0^0 gone we are all presumably breeding/becoming the angels)
>>96450282Cringe and beta
>>96450352>This guy kills people by looking at them as a baby from birth>Should we A, rid out his eyeballs, or B, kill him
>>96450346So Immortality and recovery from illnesses isn't worth the cost of like one mentor and like something like Mitigating grip? The real price is the fact you have to earn it, the points is kind of paltry in comparison and you'll only worry about it if you think you can't achieve it.
>magician's handtrap or worth it?
>Yee has no place in the name of [YMRD] due to it breaking established rulesThis is due to Yee needing a preceding letter right? As it is "and" both in tankistas native russian and the godscript? Why do I then see Anons throw around Yee + Letter so often?
>>96450370> isn't worth the costYes since you still need to earn it afterward. Just get agelessness, then work on unlocking Empyreality.
>>96450369jesus christ anon just get them a blindfold or something. The chances of having 2 evil eyes is so slim that I don't think that a "ton of mutilated people" are going to be fleeing from nations because of shit like that. I mean a double bleeding heart gesture or mitigating grip can be trained into a capable soldier, I don't think the first reaction towards most people with gifts is "let's tear it out".good god thats grim man its not like people don't know about gifts and have no idea how to manage them just because a majority don't have it.
>>96450383just pick buki/nilmatrixfortune favors the bold
>>96449994You pick Keter and she tells you how to bullshit things up, specially i you picked Buki, as you should.
>>96450237All of them except the Uruks and the people who ventured too far from her clutches.
>>96450304Literally dying to the letter is not evading it. It happened, in the most literal and obvious way that it could have. Something else just happened afterwards. It's no different from Zemlya in that regard.Also, nothing indicates that resurrection magic is common or easy. In fact, phoenixization is specified to be rare and require specific circumstances. There's no reason to believe that other outsiders even had the option.
>>96450145It's called being optimal.
Since anon pointed this cyoa out, I think the section would be fun to use as unofficial DLC for how your upbringing in Outer Reincarnation would go since it's a roll of the dice. >HousingWhat your home environment will be like during your childhood in OR>Marriage How well the parents you chose gets along>Free Time How much time you'll have to actually do the things you want such as studying, training, etc.>Peers How the other kids and teens are going to treat you in OR>Schooling How much you actually learn from your mentors. Lowest rolls will get you the bare minimum of what they would teach you, high rolls go beyond>Pedigree This will depend on how you are treated by the general public. Even if you have gifts like Ethereal Beauty getting a low roll may get you kidnapped >Vacations How hard or easy it'll be for you to travel around the continent. High rolls gets you to your encounters faster while low rolls gets ypu barely anything until you're an adult.>InvolvementIf your parents live, how much they'll stick around with youSo will you have a blessed childhood or will you end up like Charlotte?
>>96450428Going ahead and posting the second page for anyone that wants this cyoa in general.
>>96450426If you look at history. Optimal Outsiders die quickly.You have to fuck up repeatedly to live long like Aat.
Rolled 2, 7, 6, 2, 13, 15, 17, 11 = 73 (8d20)>>96450428rollan
Rolled 20, 7, 18, 6, 18, 14, 13, 16 = 112 (8d20)>>96450428I know SRTR wouldn't let me down
>>96450436Nah, I'd ascend. They were not me.
>>96450428Let's see how this goes
>>96450437>poor home>decent marriage>decent free time>poor peers>decent schooling>noble pedigree>amazing vacations>decent involvementwell, it could be worse...
>>96450438>Got an amazing childhoodCharlie really did just have a skill issue and screwed herself over. I won't hear any more slander about SRTR.
>>96450436They were rushing things. Trying to do too much too quickly.