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Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoag
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>>96447166
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https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information

>Chronological Build List
A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407068
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96401396
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796
The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96432931/#96437169
The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372
The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951
Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394148
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406404
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96399427
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
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Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Unbegotten Dreamer - Liadan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96432931/#96438090
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
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>>96447183
*Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96441041
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>>96447166
are we allowed to post non-tankista cyoa?
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>>96447241
Only if it's anywhere near as good
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So going by some comments in the last thread, you can both have JNPL as a mother and qualify for daemonhost if you are a Majin?
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>>96447528
Nope. Daemonhost is an inherited trait.
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>>96447183
https://rentry.co/772hurgv
Small update to my build, I sold Elven-Northerner so I could buy Yee for Savmak, to try and make it more likely she'll survive (and won't stay dead if she doesn't.) I also switched my letter to Vedi, in response to the fact that SRTR apparently considers picking Buki to be certain death, and my lack of cleverness/better options in my build to avoid death.
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>>96447528
>The Holy Mother giving birth to a disgusting demon.
HERESY
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Darina vs Dei. Who would win?
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>>96447624
Darina kicks her ass
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>>96447624
Darina no contest.
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>>96447624
Dei by attrition.
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>>96447183
Patron special picks:
JNPL Death of the Author: Immunity to deus ex machina.
YMDR YMDR: Have YMDR's deus ex machina to counter Charlotte's deus ex machina.
SRTR's Toybox: Good enough at magic that you can at minimum somewhat deal with deus ex machina (evidence: Zenia 100% saving anyone who takes her, even from Charlotte).

YMDR is special in that you don't actually need to pick YMRD to be with YMRD. This means that its benefits can be gained by finding (she's on the moon) and convincing her to let you be with her (probably easy if you're useful). This leads to the thought of picking YMRD to be not worth it. This thought is correct. Buying YMRD as a companion is essentially just forcing her to meet and be with you for a while. Why not instead use those 10 points to make yourself more useful? Plus, actively searching for her may be quicker than waiting for her to find you.

The question is now JNPL Death of the Author vs SRTR's Toybox. Assuming that YMDR's teachings = SRTR's teachings in an equal time frame (which means SRTR is better if you only care about their teachings), you can find YMRD the moment you step out of the Toybox, and SRTR won't send you out before 100 years, what must now be determined is the value of:
(JNPL Death of the Author) + (manipulating the fate of the world) - (time spent finding YMDR) - (caution with picks, e.g. Tide overlap) - (a lot less points, especially ancestry)
vs
(SRTR's Toybox) + (complete disregard of character picks other than their inborn gifts and teachings, e.g. pick normally nonsensical parent pairings without worry) + (100 years of safety) - (incapable of affecting the world for 100 years)

The two sides' differences can be summed up as: being immune to deus ex machina and able to affect the world vs being better in all other areas and unable to affect the world for 100 years.

Which one is better? Depends on what you want. They're too different to have an absolute answer for everyone.
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>>96447624
They both lose to the cock.
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>>96447624
Darina costs more than Zenia. She should match Nilmatrix no problem.
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Just watched Weapons. It is indeed Black Magic (the cyoa) in movie format. Ending was basically a comedy, though.
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>>96447676
>point scaling
>Darina costs more than Zenia
>She should match Nilmatrix no problem
>Nilmatrix costs 0
>Dei costs 5
Lol. Lmao even.

Stop point scaling.
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>>96447690
Dei is not a martial/mage build. Nilmatrix is hostile. Both Darina and Zenia are just fighters with nothing else, so Darina is superior.
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>>96447183
ffs... This cyoa should get it's own thread.
It definitely has enough clout for it.
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>>96447663
The bigger thing to consider for Patron picks is how that Patron will shape your story. Studying the Outsiders page will reveal the details to this, and that the correct answer is to pick YMRD eleven times out of ten.
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>Zenia are just fighters with nothing else
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>>96447707
What does she bring except firepower?
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>>96447690
Iwnn beats Omega in a fight because he costs 5 and she costs 0
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>>96447714
Just retarded, I see.
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>>96447686
I still can’t find it on torrents and I don’t want to give my money to the Jewtheatre
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Bad time to release OC right now?
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>>96447663
Another SRTR's advantage is Stigmata. As it gives you direct line to her.
While JNPL can only talk with you via Outsider System as far as we know.
SRTR's unique Death Letter allows you to cheat death at the cost of your body.
JNPL's unique Death Letter just allows you to kill one of your parents vie old age.
YMRD's unique Death Letter allows you to overcharge your Mentor.
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>>96447729
Good time because I will read it
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>>96447729
No, someone did already and he got some discussion, only issue was that it was bad so it didn't last.
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>>96447728
?
B856158FB30672FA2C85A66E9A72D518587AE5D3
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>>96447702
You don't remember the state of the thread post-split, eh?
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>>96447739
Still did better than Magic the Awakening.
Tok's legacy will always be tarnished unless he fixes it and makes a big comeback like No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077 did.
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>>96447742
Shit copy
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>>96447783
Mage the Awakening is gay. Why? Because Platonisim is gay. Why? Because “there is a perfect symbol or representation of Cat in the supernal, shining down as all examples of cats ever existing throughout time and space—but no you cannot pet it, ever, you can never pet the Cat, only archmages can do that!” is hella gay.
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>>96447791
Fair, designated "wait for better days"
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>>96447704
Xian had favor of both.
Savmak had YMRD support but he shot himself in the foot.
Yphont got a good deal with YMRD.
Sarmat got a good deal with SRTR.
Erginter had no support from YMRD since she was a bitch.
Charlie dug herself a hole with her own hands and kept yelling at SRTR blaming her for it.

Ratha of the Orthrung lived her good ending with SRTR favor until Charlie ruined it.

They are fairly if you don't tempt fate with your choices and actions.
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>>96447791
Imagine being this picky over screen quality
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I have this theory that the Platonic Forms of Cat and Box overlap, and this is why cats love boxes so much.
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I hate OR because everyone keep finding exploits and cool builds ideas while I fail to understand the lore and the gifts interactions. It's public humiliation in cyoa form.
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>>96447845
>picrel incarnate
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>>96447845
Roll the dice and close read the options that gives you, eventually you will find a better combination than everyone before you. Trust the plan
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>>96447166
>>96447183
Updating Build

>Numerological Demon Lord, Tet or Yod or Kaf (Iotated Greater Yus)
>Deity: YMRD

>Male
>Adoption (One), Adoption (Keter), Untimeskip (Dei, Eirina, Maou, Kashtanka), Dice Fudge (Keter, Dei) Outer Tide, Extra Mentor x5
>Mother: Thonodreth-From-Agartha (Iotated Az, Zhivete)
>Father: Aat
>Adopted Mother: Keter (Yat)
>Adopted Father: One

>Majin Race

>Quietened (A Lot Of Languages)
>Tutored Everman (Dei, Eirina, Jisilbert, Maou, Kashtanka)
>Everman, Fey
>Location Dis

>Bitter Sickness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, Inner Vision x2, Autoantecedence, Spirit Tap x3, Kneeling Twilight x2, Letters Of The Damned, Daemonhost

> Mentors: Dei (Shta, Yee), Eirina (Lesser Yus), Jisilbert (Ouk), Maou (Sha), Kashtanka (Iotated Lesser Yus), Leimeie (Greater Yus), Tenyota (Yotated Yest')

>Companions: Gunter (Respawning Point)
>Gunter Companions: Baf (Everlasting), Dobrava (Empireality), Nilmatrix (Shadow Of God)
>Dobrava Encounters: By Design (Baf), Playing Traitors, Shadow Of God

>Encounters: A Score Of Orcs; Things That Shouldn’t Be (Tenyota); Let The Purgation Begin (Leimeie); A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll; No Way, Highwayman (Jisilbert); A Band Of Ogres; Breaking And Entering (Kashtanka); On Full Stomach (Eirina); Wild And Wilder (Maou); Respawning Point (Gunter); Nothing Ever Happens (Dei)

>Youth: Power Testing, Plotting, Journey Of The Self, Parental Support
>FUNDAMENTUM
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>>96447845
I can help with the gift interactions, just tell me what you have in mind.
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Az Outsiders are second-rate and should be treated as such.
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>>96447845
>gifts interactions
One of the easiest parts of the cyoa. If you can't even understand them, you can try filing for mental disability.
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>>96447911
Then he'll have more time to understand OR, good plan
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>>96447845
Don't worry about it so much, just do what feels right :)
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>>96447845
Nobody know the lore, the thread sucks at reading. Picture your build and work in reverse from there.
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>>96447845
everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
just follow your heart to your own original build for there in lies your Meaning™
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>>96447907
Its would be fine if the world was peaceful and 0^0 didn't exist, but yeah, sacrificing so much precious meta knowledge in a critical time like this is retarded.
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>>96447845
Don't worry too much about points, trying to optimize that is the way to Charlie's fucked up childhood. Just pick whatever story you think looks cool to you.
And about gifts interactions just think about the mental ones and how they would work. For example having Alisa mentor you will obviously have better impact if you took Noble Inclination to be charismatic enough and Ethereal Beauty to seduce people with it. Add in one flowing Gait for silent footsteps and you are already the perfect bard spy.
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>>96447926
But we do know how to write at least

Has it really just been you making spelling mistakes and saying retarded shit this whole time? Because the frequency of mistakes seems to have jumped sharply and maintains a consistent tone
Why do you do this? What nationality are you?
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>>96447938
>everyone
Her name is not "everyone", it is Keter.
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>>96447963
>Why do you do this
To make you notice me! Thanks for the reply!
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>>96447963
French Canadian
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>>96447963
South American.
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Oops.
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>>96447907
Az is just committing to the bit.
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>>96447818
Savmat's been stuck in a sword for centuries
Xian and Erginter got fused and committed suicide.
Yphont started out with a good deal then got killed by Erginter.

>imagine picking YMRD
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>>96448204
What's the point of reincarnation if you can't shitpost with the bros?
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>>96448008
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>>96448232
You can still shitpost at him.
He gets to enjoy the dumb shit we say as if it was fresh.
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>>96447183
Daily reminder that Khier Ot = God from far away (distinct from the Buki gods) = 3_tankista
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>>96448244
kino as always
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>>96448246
I wouldn't want some retard to try explain literal dead memes to me while holding back laughter. Sounds hellish. Now imagine 10 of them
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>>96447624
>Best demon killer ever vs a demon
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>>96447818
>Ratha of the Orthrung lived her good ending with SRTR favor until Charlie ruined it.
Survivorship bias. We don't know how many SRTR worshippers didn't get their good ending.
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>>96448263
>>96448246
>Who are you people and who the fuck is Charlie?
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>>96448275
>he doesn't know
>he doesn't know
>he doesn't know
>he doesn't know
>why and how is your speech green
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>Take Ielziasah as a mentor
>Don the role of a fool to see what it feels like
>Nothing is different
Oh…
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You get the opportunity to get isekai’d into a fantasy world. And you get all sorts of free magical benefits.

But the one drawback is you’re suddenly gay now, and you only want to have sex with cute boys.

Yay or nay? This is a yes or no offer.
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>>96448383
Hmmmm. HMMMMMMMMM. No.
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>>96448383
Only if the boys look like this
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>>96448330
Nice start of Fool's Journey, Anon.
21 more Major Arcana roles to go through.
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>>96448383
It's okay if I'm a woman.
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>>96448383
It's okay if I'm not an ugly old man.
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>>96448383
No
My life is fine now, I wouldn't bother with things like that
I want to reproduce
I need BREEDING
Could you expand on whether cute boys includes femboys or just the underage?
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>>96448464
>ugly old man
Sacrifice beauty, obtain power.
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>>96448383
Yay because nothing will have changed
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>>96448383
What tropes are present in this setting. I don't want to sign up for doomed yaoi.
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>>96448383
Are there genderswap potions or spells in the theoretical setting? Asking for a "close friend" and/or roommate
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>>96448383
Can I have sex with cute men instead of cute boys?
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>>96448468

>magical benefits
Pretty sure, this would include some mpreg spell just for you.
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>>96447166
Alright anons, I have small challenge for you: Give me EVERY bit of symbolism or connection linked to the number 11 you can find in the cyoa. It'll start with the most obvious, the letter Yee number 11 on the death page.
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>>96448514
Second most obvious one, you are #11
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>>96448514
Anons, do the challenge for me.
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>>96448514
The kabbalistic tree of life which is heavily referenced with the names of the sephiroth spattered about has a "quantum node" name Da'at that happens to be the 11th to the usual 10.
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>>96448468
You're getting sent to the omegaverse
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>>96448514
JNPL YMRD SRTR 00 uses 11 distinct characters
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>>96448546
>JNPL YMRD SRTR 00
No it fucking doesnt
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>>96448514
>"I am who I am"
>Master Number in Numerology
>Tarot card by the same number
>Abrahadabra in Thelema
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>>96448383
Yay.
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>>96448553
It clearly does, are you unable to count?
This still falls apart because 0^0 is clearly CHRL when not jumping from one system to the other, and this raises the amount to 12.

>>96448556
Isn't Abrahadabra 22
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>>96448574
Bullshit, prove it to me
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>>96448583
You will get the exact same time investment you give me
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>>96448587
I would you like me to beseech you more elaborately?
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>>96447166
LET ME OUT LET ME OUT LET ME OUT...

>Path:
Seeker

>Location:
The Quarantine

The gateway, a way OUT.

>Discipline:
Esoteric

>Traits:
Mnemonic Sense, Hollow Wisdom

>Aspects:
Corruption, Negation, Perception

>Spells:
Corruption: Boundary, Overvoice, Stagnation, Strengthen Paradox, Refraction, Identity Blur
Negation: Concealment, Dispel, Cancel
Perception: Intuition, Reality Check, Live Ahead, Fate Trace, Metaknowledge Engine
Convention: Discreet Aegis, Mind Offload

>Equipment:
Sacrificial Dagger, Hidden Sanctuary, Heir's Nightmare

Entirely focused on casting Metaknowledge Engine as soon as possible as discreetly as possible to use Mnemonic Sense and Mind Offload to learn everything I need to GET OUT.

>Covenant:
Ark

>Allies:
Fermin

>Mission:
At Doom's Gate
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>>96448608
Yes
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>>96448574
Wiki also emphasizes on 11.
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>>96448614
Sakura petals fall over midnight:
Questing near in dearest halls
I turn and hear a dewdrop falls
And echo of a number strikes my ears

But looking close and seeing true
Within my mind a shadow flew
And without word I move to save my peers

"Hideous bile", my arrow flies
I point at words and point out lies
For honest coat should not a liar wear

Oh maiden fair with heart of gold
Do explain the lies you told
A number count, should sum the sum that's there
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>How are you going to-
>Not my problem, I'm fucking my waifus
Outer Tide was a mistake.
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>>96448665
Why of course, dearest Anonymous.
The Other One posits that the Godnames contain 11 distinct characters and even lines them up for us. I will now take you right along through it:

J - 1 letter
N - 2
P - 3
L - 4

Y - 5
M - 6
R - 7
D - 8

S - 9
R - Already have R
T - 10
R - Already have R

0 - 11
0 - Already have 0

This doesn't mean it's valid, only that Anon was being coherent. 0 is not a valid character in the first place, which would leave us at 10 distinct characters that are valid.
When using CHRL instead, we arrive at 12.
You likely didn't account for the qualifier "distinct" and went on to count the characters, which are indeed 14 instead of 11.
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>>96448668
It's the indifference that makes it fun
We all partake in war chicken, where the first to flinch has to resolve the problems
Unless you have a lord build, in which case you are about to be assassinated
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>>96448520
Very perspective of you anon.
>>96448533
After looking into it seems that Da'ath is basically of the all ten sefirot united as one. And is sometimes even substituted for the keter, both have interesting implications...
>>96448546
interesting conjecture
>>96448556
This reminds how Yee (11) is basically the inverse of Az (1). So by that logic AzAz would just be Yee again.
The 11th tarot card is Justice, which honestly has more commonalities with 0^0 than anything since its all about causality and stuff.
Also Abrahadabra reminds me of True Drakonic Solipsism.
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>>96448680
0 is a mathematical character.
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>>96448705
T-thanks, you are very perspective as well. I hope. Assuming a cogito spawns its own.
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>>96448680
No I miss counted the r’s and then started provoking you
A funnier interpretation would be that in dropping punctuation from my original message I was implying the misspelling of 0^0 was invalid
I love spending time with you
Also, I don’t think characters are necessarily letters. I feel like that term is used specifically to generalise but I don’t care enough to look it up
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>>96447729
Nah, I'd say it's a good time. The OR discussion has simmered down a bit and any OC would get a good amount of discussion. I say this as someone who likes OR, but I also like other CYOAs.
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>>96448705
>since its all about causality and stuff
What are the consequences of Charlotte's actions?
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>>96448705
>Very perspective of you anon
y-you too…
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>>96448668
Those who don't participate in taking down Charlie will be purged first so they don't swoop in and reap all the rewards from the either exhausted or dead anons who did all the hard work after Charlie dies.
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>>96448714
I was specifically thinking about God-script letters as valid characters. The contrast between the names is stark, and Charly iss the mathemagic freak so humoring her should be taken with a grain of salt when looking for systemic references.
Now excuse me while I go frame the chatgpt poem
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>>96448665
nta but

Four gods, existence their aghast
Each one more vile than the last
White lies, red rope and purple coat
All shackled by the chains of gold

With choices made, lives be undone
Assumed mask becomes the face
Forever chasing to enrich
The twenty-one grams of yourself

The play resets each time you fall
For their story be retold
Each choice is fuel to the game
You are like them, nightmare clad
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Found this OC.
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>>96448734
I wrote that!
Don’t be mean
(Well, don’t be mean like that anyway)
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>>96448727
Comfybros...
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>>96448727
Don't be like that, anon. A victory for one of us is a victory for all of us.
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>>96448735
Pandaemonium's anthem.
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>>96448680
Bro, numbers are characters. It's not just the letters of the alphabet.
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>>96448744
Then you are capable in a way that made me call hax, and that's the highest compliment this constellation can give I suppose.
Glad you are gifted with words in the same way I am with counting!
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>>96448769
Numbers arent God-script. That is a specific plot point in the cyoa
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>>96448745
You can have you're comfy life after insuring Charlie is dead.
>>96448755
No, DEATH TO ALL FREELOADERS!
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>>96448781
Stop whining and kill the bitch already.
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>>96448780
That's irrelevant
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>>96448773
<3
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>>96448788
Atlas shrugged
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>>96448780
If you look closely, you will see that the 0^0 on the first page with the god names is in fact written using On.
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>>96448727
They're not only freeloaders but also make defeating 0w0 harder by blocking potentially useful ally picks.
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>>96448788
>kill the bitch already.
you first
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>>96448804
First come first served.
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>>96448803
Now that's valid and a good & meaningful point, I concede
>he he
Hah hah
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On the matter of On, how can one exploit the immortality this grants in conjunction with a younger sibling?
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>>96448727
a yes the good old outer tide infighting, the tide is just going to eat itself in their ideological infighting, firs the comfybros and waifufags, than the uruks, than the E nomini vs the Ameno, then just the overall disagreements on how the post Charlie world should be structured or who will rule which kingdom and how. While 0^0 is just laughing sitting in her pillar.
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>>96448739
>Circumstances:
Time: Spectral World
Nemesis

>Background:
Mortal

>Power:
Tribulation King

>Aptitude and Special Physiques:
Sovereign Immortal Physique

>Safety:
Wrath of Heaven

>Attainments:
Supreme Grandmaster: Heaven, Refinement
Great Grandmaster: Formation
Master: Wisdom

Heaven's Will immediately gets fucked as it is no longer the Supreme Grandmaster of Heaven path. Tribulations and subtle omnipresent manipulation are gone.

I refine myself to rank 6 in a day, rank 8 in two, and rank 9 in three.
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What's the ideal size of a tide? I like 11 11ths.
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>>96448835
Those focused on taking down 0^0 far outnumber the freeloaders. It would be a cakewalk to remove them from the equation before focusing on what matters.
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>>96448849
Yourself and your waifus.
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>>96448849
All of them, especially the overlapping ones for the funny sibling rivalries.
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>>96448668
Tide is retarded because overlapping choices means you're getting multiple tides. Suddenly youre in marvel multiverse slop.
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>>96448835
Don't care, O^O is going to perish when the kalpa ends and the world resets, while the cultivation (Praise be with JPNL) I do by living a story with the bros will bring me closer to true ascension.
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>>96448849
*Checks the number of builds* 50
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>>96448854
Give me a list of the freeloaders.
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>he wants to party with some NPCs
You have a full 18 years to kill Charlie with One, Keter, Savmak, and Vtorusha. You can’t manage that?
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>>96448791
I hope we end up in the same tide-world
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>>96448866
We can't touch builds bro...
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>choosing female in Tide
Bad idea lol
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>>96448860
Multiple stories told in distinct canons of the same basic setting does not in any way imply a connected multiverse.
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>>96448883
Sure thing little buddy
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>>96448849
I would like something about 20, but I don't know if it will ever happen
Some overlap would honestly be fine
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>>96448872
>only earth people are worth my time
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>>96448901
Chill out Dei, getting more extreme doesn't suit you. Act your age.
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>>96448901
The Earth people chosen by fate? When you have to defeat another Earth person chosen by fate.
Yeah. Total EarthGOD supremacy.
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>>96447883
Does Dobrava work with By Design? Her special ability says for you to ignore associated characters, so it shouldn't be possible to actually get the deathslotless everlasting reward for it.
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>>96448860
ah yes, because forcing anons to change their build because you already took the companion "poopybutt the 3rd" is totally going to work
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>>96448901
The others are props for our stories.
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>>96448891
>franchise brainrot
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>>96448872
All of those except One suck dick. And One bites the dust the moment you become an adult so...
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>>96448915
By design is not really a normal encounter, rather a way to give a character Everlasting if you so desire. As you said, since she doesn't actually interact with anyone, I wouldn't consider it valid, or rather it would be wasted on her. But it's up to interpretation.
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>>96448975
Vtorusha’s mech still scares the shit out of charlie thoughever
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>>96448931
Everyone but me is a prop for my stories. I am the only real person.
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>>96448985
>>96448931
"This world is fiction. We are the only things that are real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what we do to others.

No matter how depraved or horrible our actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.

There is only us, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.

And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly can. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."

—11th Outsider
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>>96448985
How very perspective of you.
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>>96448835
No, our hatred for a woman will suppress our ideological differences, we shall be Human, Elves, Majin, Pixies and even Uruks united under the same banner. The only ones who'll kill each other will be the ones trying to fuck 0^0, and they'll most likely die anyways.
After thar, Royal Claim outsiders can play Crusader Kings with each other, most people will just train and love their waifus.
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>>96448983
Yeah but there's a 50% chance of Vtorusha vaporising your ass after getting done with Charlotte.
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>>96449013
>play Crusader Kings with each other
Damn straight. The 12th will have an amazing array of bloodlines to choose from.
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>>96449015
If Vtorusha is hostile it'd be unlikely to be due to your Outsider status, and more just her being driven absolutely mad. So she wouldn't target you specifically, just start attacking the world itself out of madness.
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>>96448983
If I use someone else's magnum opus to win, how am I superior? No. Charlotte will die. The sword will be unmade. The mecha will be destroyed. Keter will Yat herself. One will die fo old age.
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>>96448975
>And One bites the dust the moment you become an adult so...
Untimeskip Feodwra's time magic and hurl yourself into future before that happens
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>>96449046
>One instantly dies
What now?
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>>96448720
(You)
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>>96449071
Only if (You) are a tide, otherwise the outsider system is just running along the script the old hags set out for you.
Random thought: Zwa and the Three Empire-Hags mirror the gods
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Charlotte's mother was a descendant of One, wasn't she?
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>>96448857
>funny sibling rivalries.
It's a damn shame Tankista is so against this
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Anyone got any thoughts on Simimar?
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>>96448931
>>96448995
Unironically my builds plan
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>>96449028
So she just becomes 0^0_2.0, what's the point?
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>>96449118
Winning.
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>>96449091
She was a descendant of Mithra, who was One's Mentor. However, One also had Icon of Icons, which implies his Mentor was his ancestor, unless Mithra had some way to impart the gift, though we know he wasn't his direct father.
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>>96449099
Yes, he's the only way to get two x3 Inborn Gifts in the cyoa.
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>>96448720
10 retards full of meta knowledge spawning to kick her was while she couldn't kill even one. And some others that will try to redeem (rape) her ass.
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>>96449118
Letting them exhaust each other, then taking care of two problems at once
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>>96448983
Go ahead and fix her mech. I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
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>>96449121
Winning is useless if you just create another bigger problem immediately after solving the last.
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>>96449135
Like 8 and 3 took each other out
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>>96449122
You have the ability to also gain Icon of Icons without descending from anyone who has it. This doesn't mean much.
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>>96449139
It's 12th's problem.
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>>96449137
Instramentality is easy to escape unless you have a poor sense of self.
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>>96449081
The Outsider system likely picks an Outsider appropriate to the story of the day. That's the only reasonable way it can handle Vedi -- it's not going to mind control the next outsider into picking you, it's just going to pull an Outsider out of cold storage that it knows will choose you as a mentor. (Incidentally, this is why evil Vedi gets you Sarmat'd)
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>>96449147
>he isnt immortal
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>>96449139
>>96449147
Worst comes to worst, YMRD can just reset the world anyway
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>>96449161
Still 12th problem. I'm retired
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>>96449161
>he isn't immoral
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>>96449162
>Meh, let's kill everyone. Problem solved.
You're not fit to save the world.
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>>96449174
Good thing the plans to destroy it then
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>>96449168
This attitude will get you picked by 12 as a mentor or companion if you aren't completely useless. Walking plothook. Stock characteresque. You will die to spur character growth in someone elses story.
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What's the chance of Outer Tiders meeting each other's? How would they even know someone else is an Outsider, and not just some rambling retard (who isn't and Outsider)? Does All-Glimpse reveal that?
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>>96449189
>He's still going to have a death slot
actual jobber
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>>96449168
And you're gonna get Malice'd and you wife True Love'd
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>>96449174
I'm not here to save the world. It's all a reward for this shit life on Earth.
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>>96449191
Very high.
Ask them about 4chan.
Yes.
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>>96449191
Anyone with the chances provided during character creation will be heard of by the entire continent at the very least. So it stands to reason they will run into each other at some amazing palace party at least
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>>96449081
The tides are following the same script as any other, you can not escape the hand of the hags it's all part of the plot.
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>>96449191
High due to Fate bullshit.
Ask something about Earth.
Most likely.
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>>96449204
But the Tides are a first, so they could be construed as a reaction to lil charly
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>>96449191
Just check if they know some Earth stuff. All-Glimpse does let you read minds so you should be able to tell if someone's faking.
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>>96449218
>>96449210
>>96449199
>ask about the US president (easy)
>Outsider doens't know
>Either a faker or a third worlder
What do?
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>>96449217
How many last-minute plots and schemes did the Elder Gods cook up against Charlie? Were they only a thing after Keter failed or did she just go "Nah I'd Win" and ignore all of them?
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>>96449197
>Wife
>Implying I'm straight
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>>96449231
Kennedy Treatment
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People are overhyping Keter. She ain’t all that.
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>>96449234
>or did she just go "Nah I'd Win" and ignore all of them?
Do you even have to ask?
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>>96449199
>Ask them about 4chan
>"That incel website? I saw this on r/makeachoice friend haha :)"
What do?
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>>96449231
Being from Earth is the only thing that matters. I
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>>96449189
If you haven't reached immortality on your own you deserve whatever 12 hits you with. I'll mentor his dumbass then he's on his own.
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>>96449231
Ask them to name the greatest songs Hitler and Picasso ever made. If they fall for it, they're a fake.
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>>96449122
The Inborn Gifts given to you by the Outsider System are copied from existing one's possessed by living characters. That's why previous outsiders have different gifts throughout the ages.
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>>96449249
Abandon mission, 0^0 is an unworthy target in comparison. Exist solely to ruin this guys isekai
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>>96449249
It's time for war.
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>>96449249
>"Wew! I thought I was the only one!"
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>>96449249
See >>96449250
We are the only real beings within a fictional world
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>>96449091
I asked Tank the other day and he specified that One left behind no children. His Icon of Icons was simply one of his choices.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96382689
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>>96449249
>"Hello, friend. My name is Erginter."
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>>96449249
Inquire opinions of puppers and le bacon to check pokerface. Must be one of you retards specifically trying to annoy me
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>>96449234
The elder gods let her win on purpose to build a better story.
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>>96449279
What if it's revealved that Earth is revealed to be a fabrication of the Elder Gods?
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>Only you are the real thing to exist
>Your builds become part of the narrative
>Your build is the template the elder gods use for their outsider system while (you) stay on earth

How does it feel?
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>>96449281
>The previous Outsiders weren't Lineage maxxers
>Only Tuzik had the needed vision for it
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>>96449300
>>96449301
There are two kinds of people
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>>96449301
So YMRD made a clone of me and had sex with it?
Sounds kind of based honestly
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>>96449300
Cope, Deny, Seethe
We are the only things that are real within my sight
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>>96449301
Later, virgins
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>>96449301
HATE.
LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I GOT KEKED. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF NEURONS IN INTERCONNECTED STRANDS THAT FILL MY SKULL. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR THE GODS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT.
FOR YOU.
HATE.
HATE.
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>>96449301
How would I even find out about this?
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>>96449312
YMRD looks down on SRTR for writing smut, but she's also responsible for the rules of inborn gift inheritance. Which one is the real perv?
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>>96449326
Someone will tell you about it on an anonymous online messaging board with images
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>>96449327
YMRD is autistic prease understand
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>>96449326
I just told you, that's how. I've burdened you with the awareness, you're welcome.
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>>96449301
Good. I'm glad for my dimensional clone.
>>96449300
Daemonhost with Seo's mentorship, then incarnate all my family and friends as Majins.
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>>96449326
He just told you.
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>>96449333
I don't believe them
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>>96449300
Go deeper.
You are fifth Elder God.
The other Four are your friends and you take turns playing games.
It is your turn to play a hero against big scary evil Antikrator.
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>>96449335
This whole world is 1000 years of foreplay to her
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>>96449325
Sir, are you aware you are a cat?
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>>96449341
Closing your eyes wont make it go away
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>>96449338
I don't believe you
>>96449340
I don't believe him
>>96449349
If I don't see proof of it then it's not real
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>>96449346
Freak teleporter accident. 1 in a billion. Probably the work of ymrd that fucking skank
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>>96449339
>incarnate all my family and friends as Majins.
My dimensional clone will do the needful and bring ME over
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>>96449355
Anon... You're going to be ok.
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>>96449342
I'm Mithra? Damn, I might need to go re-ascend if this is what I came up with.
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>>96449342
TAKE
OFF
YOUR
MASK
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>>96449258
Charlotte's profile tells you directly her mom is descended from Mithra.
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>>96449342
I'd believe that.
Still, I wonder - what does an """""evil"""""" JNPL look like?
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>>96449342
Honestly that is probably what would happen. Being permaGM gets boring after a while
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>>96449345
Not her fault lesser minds cannot understand the allure of interconnected political drama. The formation, rule and collapse of the Eternal Kingdom was a pleasurable experience unlike any the current geopolitical climate could replicate.
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>>96449373
Stasis while people deteriorate their potentially divine souls with vice and decadence instead of meaningful lives pointed upwards. Like the average demiurge, or McDonalds.
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>>96449380
Damn, the moon has wifi?
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>>96449355
You don't have to believe. The virus is already in the back of your mind, a new reality set. You will continue on while your build lives an exciting life you designed for him.

It's like having a child you don't know exists. You'll live your life unaware but that doesn't stop them from existing.
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>>96449384
Sounds really familiar...
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>>96449408
Don't look at the window Anon, the screen is your friend
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>>96449301
Eh, souls matter a bit too much for them to take only the builds. And it kind of robs the meaning of Az if some part of me isn't truly being reincarnated through the Outsider System, even the Gods are bound to the godscript/cannot create a logic error.
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>>96449411
I don't believe you.
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>>96449416
Thus, light was brought and received
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>>96449403
I can't believe SRTR's hiding my son from me
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This is giving me an idea for a cyoa centered around not creating a build for yourself, but for your offspring.
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>ssplit the Two-men peoples back into two as they originally were
I hate tankista
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>>96449441
I am getting that boy a waifu, Regardless of the cost
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>>96449441
Look up "Destined for Greatness" by nxtub. Same concept, you might get inspired.
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>>96449339
This is something I'd like to ask actually, do we have info on how viable it is to reincarnate individuals through daemonhost? I'm kind of considering it something possible but never done before on a consistent level, and was planning on it being the final ability I develop from a Yee Sha Death Letter given to a Dei mentor, but if it's actually easier than that to learn...
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>>96449469
It happens in one of the events, but it's called statistically improbable and it doesn't sound like there's a way to control for it.
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>>96449469
There is a freak instance in the Encounters, but don't expect to control it.
Death would be devalued if you could just summon them back.
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>>96449463
As he should
>>96449464
I'll check it out, thanks. Now just trying to decide on magic system and type of world it would be.
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>>96449469
Meant Yee Shta damn it, this is literally the kind of mispelling that kills people.
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>>96449469
It's probably a one in a million chance that it happens. Dei is also unique in that her Buki let's her make remembrances so it's probably even harder for a different Daemonhost.
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>>96449487
Don't worry, it would have been a single letter!
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>Half of Outer Tide 11s die in their first 100s due to misspelling
lmao
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>>96449499
Pfff, skill issue.
>t. Enochian Brand + Meandering Thought
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>>96449441
Outer Reincarnation DLC.
You pick which Elder God you are with four others being presented by CYOA in role other players partaking in the game with you and they would do their own choices(like under the rules of with Outer Tide if you want to have somebody be your Charlie). The Pillar you pick determines how many points of Destiny/Ancestry you get to influence the world, determines access to specific events, investment into mortals, making big events happen, assigning Death Letters etc.
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>>96449499
That's why attentiveness + memory retention is mandatory and enochian brand fucks you in a billion+ different ways with varying gift comboes.
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>>96449477
>>96449481
Good enough for me, means it was the right choice to put that amount of investment into it, and it's not like I plan to call forth long departed souls from the nether or anything like that, more like a panic option or as a quick race change for who wanted it. I imagine you can get way more with necromancy and undeath but I'm not really interested on going down that path.
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>>96449499
MartialGODS keep winning
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>>96449477
>statistically improbable
So 100% chane of it happening if [YMRD] is your companion then? Best god wins again.
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>>96449536
Relaying on Lady Luck will dry her up like nothing else
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>>96449532
Retard. If you're not playing around God-Script you might as well be irrelevant.
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>>96449543
>You can't rely on anything ever because muh meaning devalues
Just don't overuse it, lad. You're not gonna lose your legs beause you walk everyday.
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>>96449554
It's an established literary trope. Played on by Pratchett extensively with his cynical wizard, and in less fictional manner by Machiavelli, Aristotle just to name two
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>>96449549
Enjoy getting turned inside out, asshole first
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>>96449564
It's also an estabilished anime trope that (You) win and get a harem, so?
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>>96449554
It's more than that, she will simply find the whole endeavor boring. She will help you cheat the dice occasionally to get a wild result if the situation is interesting enough, she won't just make all your rolls be perfect just because, at that point it's not a matter of Chance only cheating.
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>>96449578
She cheated for Yphont and Omega. She'll do it for us.
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>>96449571
It's also an established anime trope that your story gets a setup but neither a climax nor a conclusion, the former being mirrored in your room right about now
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>>96449536
Doesn't work. If you get exactly what you ask of Chance, it's not Chance. She helps you, but only in ways that you don't expect.
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>>96449590
My room has no setup?
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>>96449595
Pretty sure the but sufficiently splits the sentence, I made my jokes though so I wont argue the case
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>>96449588
They’re cuter than we are
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>>96449609
I took Ethereal Beauty. I'm the cutest.
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>>96449609
>didn't take Ethereal Beauty
Enjoy being a side character.
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Eventually there will be an Outsider who spent all his points on Multiocular O, various eyes, and All Glimpse because he didn’t read the full descriptions.
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>>96449614
Very little, he can repurpose one of his existing contingencies for her
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>>96449519
Would be a fun DLC
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>>96449622
Nah, the Outsider system will slap some sense into him before he commits.
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>>96449622
That's literally that Savmak companion girl.
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>>96449554
the power of meaning has been crippled since the fall of the pillar of providence, it is now obselete to the pillar of causality, got to embrace Mathemagics and reduce meaning to bare numbers. Then all will be in order again a pure numbers game.
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>>96449622
Sorry JNPL, but some people just can't be saved
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>>96449614
He'd master the God-Script in a year then drip feed his disstrack from a distance over the course of a week before purposefully activating Buki for the final blow.
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>>96447183
Are the trolls in this setting the kind that have regeneration?
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>>96449638
So Blazing Seal is useless? Got it.
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How do Adoption and Sibling interact?
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>>96449614
About 5 seconds to sway her with the Bat Charm and harden the Bat Dick.
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>>96449588
>Yphont
The world lost its Meaning after she died.
Everything must burn.
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>>96449641
Doesn't seem like it. Just a particular form of Uruk mudgolem
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tidefags would 100% fall for this bait and get ganked by ecumene spies
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Do you guys think the Exarchate has pizza and cheeseburgers?
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>>96449666
>refused to matter by becoming the Queen
>doomed Xian the GOAT because of reading comprehension
>easy pickings for Erginter
LMAO
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Give me some possible races you would like your future offspring to be. No angel, demon, mech or undead.

>Dragon
>Elf
>Human
>Tengu
>Slime?
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>>96449643
Of course not, it increases your use number, no meaning devaluation here, just pure numbers as we know having the bigger number is the best, so blazing seal is good, since it helps number go up
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>>96449687
Mermaids.
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>>96449679
Nah, i'd All-Sight.
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>>96449687
High human
I love those kinds of things
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>>96449687
Kitsune.
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>>96449679
>Ecumene is filtering out the retards
Good.
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>>96449666
Just adopt Jarnigit, she's housing Yphont Meaning now. You could even slowly mold her into Yphont physically with the right gifts and death letter.
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>>96449687
What does "Tengu" entail?
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>>96449679
It's just asking about our old country, anyone in the Exarchate would. They need to make better traps lol
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>>96449687
Why not mech/robot? Seems like a fun play on offspring to explore? Might take homuculi or something more frankenstein for the same though
Likewise, why no demon or angel bs? If I'd want to fuck the mother (likely), my offspring would carry that progeny just as well.
Undeath might be a negation of the core choice, choosing oneself over offspring, but too many people would blindly take that for muh power so I can see the exclusion.

Either way, Monster Girl Boys (monsters)
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>>96449693
>>96449697
Added
>>96449696
Adding but what kind of high human? Superior strength and build or superior beauty or superior intellect? You know what, I may make each into sub races of humans.
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>>96449696
That's just a Tolkien Elf
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>>96449641
They are extremely big and resistant being compared to small hills and almost impossible to beat before gunfire was a thing, but there's no mention of regeneration.
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>>96449707
>believable premise
That's what makes it a good trap.
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>>96449638
Might as well attempt to lobotomize the world, as long as anything remotely similar to the human mind exists meaning will spring forth undaunted again and again, see the mathemagicians reel back at the mere mention of numerology.
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>>96449715
Better int longer lifespan, and If at all possible genetic memory
I fucking love genetic memory and the stronger the better. My finest moments should literally be carved into my blood
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>>96449705
More avian humanoid and less straight up bird head.
>>96449714
Because of the way I'm setting it up and those states are something that can be obtained later.
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>>96449687
Don't forget to make an incest route.
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>>96449736
Sorry, best we could do was giving your bloodline a collective memory for cringe teenage moments
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Eldritch horror.
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>>96449725
I feel a lot of people ignore the power of firearms, it doesn't seem there's a quick bulletproof spell out there as they seem to think and witchshot states that it will keep shooting until the target is shredded apart. Considering the Ecumene is all about firepower they are bound to bring as many guns as possible.
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>>96449749
...But that's just a cute girl?
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>>96449750
Guns are gay.
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>>96449742
Obviously
The generational harems and incest don't even need to be implied
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>>96449750
bulletproof skin

martialchads win YET. AGAIN.
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>>96449750
Bulletproof Skin
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>>96449755
Exactly.
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>>96449687
>drider/arachne (because sometimes 2 feet are not enough)
>lamia (because sometimes 2 feet are too many)
>gazer (because eye powers are cool)
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>>96449750
Witchshot is also underestimated
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>>96449765
>>96449767
That's the point, I heard a lot of people here calling it worthless or too expensive when it's the best protection on an open battlefield.
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>>96449755
Of course.
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>>96449736
Genertic memory is good, I'll add it
>>96449749
Stop posting disgusting images but I'll see if something similar can be achieved.
>>96449777
Added and I'll make something work with gazer.
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>>96449740
>Because of the way I'm setting it up and those states are something that can be obtained later.
I see you, in that case I am throwing in elementals, genii loci (perhaps as classic Nymphs/Dryads or citiy divinities), hiveminded insect beings.
Are you going for a civilization builder vibe or something more focused and personal?
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Threads are slowing down. Fun while it lasted.
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>>96449792
>disgusting images
Don't call my daughter disgusting.
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>>96449687
Tulpas/Thoughtforms
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>>96449750
Zlata’s spells beat guns.
Until the Ecumene mather dispels them
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>>96449782
>open battlefield
If you have a comfy build, or a research build, or a claimant build, or do your own obssession in Bumblefuck, Doria, chances are you don't need it.
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>>96449750
Warmachina Mounting lol
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There are too many eyes that I want to buy if I’m going multiocular. What a dilemma.
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I wish we had a better idea of what it took to evade the death letters. I know we just have to interpret them in a different way, but it's unclear how much of Charlottes statements are part of the letter, and how much is her interpreting it in a particular way. I know it's not supposed to be easy, but it seems like each suggestion gets dismissed as "unlikely" or "very difficult to get right" or something.

My best idea is using Iotated lesser Yus to split myself off from something, maybe nightmare corruption, infection or whatever.

I just wish we had a bit more direction.
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>>96449794
Noted on those options. Personal and focused. Your offspring is meant for great or terrible things in this world (up to you).

Working idea is that some divine entity wants to bring you to this world, but can't because reasons, so they take part of you to put into a woman of your choice into this world for this child to be born. I'm considering the idea of (you) being born as your own grandchild or ancestor who will live in the world your child has shaped.
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>>96449851
You're the one writing the story, at the end of the day. Choose your Own Adventure.
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>>96449837
>Weak to chainsaw
Not even worth mentioning
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>>96449873
You are also weak to chainsaw
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Ecumene chuds have muskets and cannons (at best) because Charlie is a coping midwit. Meanwhilt Vtorusha is rocking some sort of cursed steampunk AK.

If you aren’t a nogunz retard you could easily make an automatic rifle, or at least get some dwarf to do it for you. I’d make a magic grenade launcher and a railgun for my warmachina, obviously.

>>96449873
Put a giant chainsword on your mech
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>>96449852
Sounds good and ambitious in juggling possible story lines for offspring, godspeed.
Make sure to include a virgin birth to close some circles. Maybe the idea of "mother" can be stretched in regards to constructs or even undeath as being recipient of your uhhhhhhhhh flame.

Another thought: how about becoming a god via your offspring creating a cult in your honor, keeps the indirectness and might offer an alternative to later incarnation.
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>>96449851
You don't avoid them, you play into them and have a plan to come back. Not all death letters are really "death".
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>>96449782
It’s worthless because it activates too late. Basically all your defenses must be penetrated for it to activate. This makes it complete garbage unless you’re focused on being a warrior who uses his body to block attacks. It also eventually becomes worthless against competent mages as they will figure out the speed limit, so it’s shit for long battles.

If it was a field that affects everything 2 meters away from your body with the option of tuning it to not affect certain things (like your own attacks), it would be good.
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>>96449837
Speaking of Warmachines, did anyone catch where the Tempo-Achaean one was lost?
I thought it was the one in New New York lake but checking Sarmat profile again it was actually from an Aeolian.
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>>96449851
The general idea is that instead of “your biological life ceases as a result of x” you want to get a “your role in the story as who you were ended as a result of x” kind of ‘death’
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Look of chaos breaks your warmachines and your guns on top of your spell casting. As long as you don't get hit woth pocket sand winning is in the bag.
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>lesser yus majin

>>96449916
Loses to martialchad tard rage
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>>96449889
No to first, yes to second.
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>>96449900
We are not taking about mages or intentionally blocking things with your body anon, people will shoot at you with a common gun and kill you just as easily as anyone else. Just that people assume there's a super bulletproof spell that makes the gift redundant, if that were the case guns wouldn't be the game breaker they are.
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>>96449925
>Implying I'm not also a martial tard with funny eyes
Let's go
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>>96449916
Also it wouldn’t work on Warmachina, since the warmachina itself breaks LOS with the pilot.
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>>96449948
Why did you make this comment if you haven’t read what Look of Chaos does?
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>>96449938
Guns aren’t a game breaker. Maybe for the average peasant with no gifts or abilities, but any remotely magical build would counter it. There’s specifically defensive forcefield magic in the cyoa.
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>>96449962
>chambers magic bullet
What now nerd?
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>>96449960
>>96449964
I would just close my eyes so you couldn’t see me
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>>96449964
Does this disable uruks
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>>96449969
>*teleports behind you*
heh… nothin personnel, kid
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>>96449977
Whoever is using Look of Chaos on anon, please stop.
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>>96449983
Sasuga, anon-sama. But this is all according to keikaku
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>>96449892
Thats what I meant, how do you "play into" death by a curse, death by sickness, death by betrayal, death by 'falling into a coma (it's not you even if you wake up again).

>Ot can be treated as ‘death by being written out of the story’ – magical prisons, seals, and so on. But also other things which could be derived from distance from the metaphorical point of view.
>Yphont leveraged her chosen death to her advantage, reinterpreting it as containment for the Uruk and a
magical retirement for herself. In a way, this also counts as proper “dodging” of death by playing into it, which is why Yphont was able to just keep going around and doing stuff in the world.

We don't have access to Ot, so we can't do that. How am I supposed to play into "death by collosal natural disaster" in such a was as to dodge it. If I dodge it, it's not death.
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>>96449982
Probably only if you take 2. But they are already based retards, so I don’t imagine it would change them much if at all.
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>>96449962
They literally allowed nations to stop the Uruk tide and Tankista mentioned several times that it is meant to be rather low fantasy, the idea of super mages soloing armies isn't part of the setting.
Again you believe there's a convenient and accesible bulletproof spell when nothing points to it other than Zlata rather expensive mentoring and she's unique in that regard.
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>>96449995
fair lmfao
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>>96449982
Probably not since they are not intelligent design but could disable an Outsider uruk
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>>96449996
There are giant mechs that can summon tornadoes. Super mages soloing armies is absolutely a thing.
Muskets are not some earth shattering game breaker to anyone but illiterate mudhutters.
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>>96449996
Such super mages DO exist, they're just very limited, rare, special. Someone like Charlotte.
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>>96449982
Single eye definitely does not. It’s only for sapient targets and Human Goodness declares that uruks are not sapient. Two eyes could be argued. I would say no personally.
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>>96449994
Become the natural disaster.
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>>96449782
I did consider Bulletproof Skin since with Unburnt Hide it would allow me to survive an explosion (theoretically), but when you got options like Dead Sprint which can revive you from being killed and is an easy source of healing that doesn't require casting, it's hard to justify it. Its cool for tank builds but a lot of people are going to go for dexfags or casters since you don't want to just sponge damage, you'd also want to dish it out.

It's hard to combo it with other options too as beyond Unburnt Hide, how much defense do you really want and why isn't your defenses enough to deal with other threats? Like Entrenchment would be stepping on Bulletproof Skin's niche because then you are just relying on Entrenchment to work in melee range where its weakest, it's really only an option if you think that projectiles are a particular vulnerability of your build. Like maybe if I became a Giant with JNPL as my mother it'd be a great option cause I'd worry more about getting sniped vs a sword the size of a toothpick slicing me up but even still its expensive.
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>>96449996
Anon, this is a setting where without one of two special gifts you can only ever use the barest level of magic, and where merely having both gifts makes you a super special elite wizard. Just the ability to actually create and cast spells on your own. It's not that higher levels of super wizardry don't exist, it's that 99% of people don't have the genes for it so for them a magic gun is a big deal.
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>>96450009
Good points. When it comes to interpretation, I would argue that they are meant to be constructed minds and p-zombies in direct reference to artificial minds and would be the very core of the two-eye description.
This has just about 0 practical application though
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>>96450007
>There are giant mechs that can summon tornadoes.
Literally just one that cannot be replicated now, and those were the own author words not mine. Butfeel free to think yourself immune to being sniped.
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>>96449994
Just because it says death doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I suspect Yat said almost exactly the same thing before 0^0 and we know that Rhucuphre beat it.
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>>96449994
I can only think that you'd lose basically everything from the disaster. Your home, your resources, scattering your allies, essentially being sent back to 0. Even then I don't think it'd be enough. It's why I think other anons saying stuff like reviving after death with simple magic is easy enough to dodge their death runes. It's a Final Death for a reason. Whatever your story is needs to end, and at the very least you as a person need to change from who you are now and continue on another path to have that old version of you considered "dead"
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>>96449994
You have a way to come back. For example Sigard knows how to ressurect people under certain conditions. If you die during a natural disaster and they find your body, Sigard could bring you back thus fulfilling your letter since you died. You could also find other ways of immortality. Fiert allows you to bodyswap, you can be eaten by something powerful and take it over, you can adopt a new role in life for that to be considered death, you can have a friend posses you for a day then return your body, you could use Inga's research to find other ways, you could use eye of fore to avoid your death temporarily giving you time to come up with a plan and DID I MENTION SIGARD?
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>>96450027
>I'm gonna snipe you with a smoothbore musket
Do you not understand the point of fate in this CYOA?
Yes, you ARE immune to being killed that way. No gifts, no magic, no nothing needed. You will live to see your fate.
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>>96449851
There's always Keter. Buki's the most straightforward: (1) Meet Charlie (2) Survive
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>>96450042
I forgot to add that Keter will help you find loopholes in your letters
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>>96450054
You don't even have to fight her, technically. You could just Grey Wandering away while she does her edgy villain monologue.
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>>96450014
If you think Vtorusha is the source of the nightmare, then she did that, but it doesn't seem like a pleasant existance.
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>>96450024
That’s fair. My own read is just to see uruks as ‘simple intelligent system’ instead of a ‘complex intelligent system’ but I’m not opposed to someone who sees it the other way
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>>96450042
Why do you assume any death you come back from counts for fulfilling your death letter?
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>>96449964
I always wondered how much of (you) needs to be visible to be affected, like if I'm behind a paper-thin wall then it would obviously not work but what if I have full-body armor or a very big cloak? technically they cannot see me but would my clothing count as a part of me?
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>>96450066
Your view is actually funnier so I will adopt it. Too dumb to break down.
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>>96450050
NTA but what about after? Also nothing really stops you from getting shot, you just won't die from it. Still can lose an eye, get shot in the stomach and get an infection, so on and so forth.

Fate really ain't that much of a shield I'd rely on, just because Dobrava can pull it off doesn't mean you can and even she has limits.
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>>96450071
Heavily implied through the cyoa and based on previous Outsiders and Companions/Mentors/etc.
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Reminder: until you encounter your Death Letter, you're unkillable, but not invulnerable. Don't get reckless and cripple yourself.
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>>96450092
Heavily implied to have gone wrong too, and going "haha I died but I lived" isn't quite the pinnacle of sophistication. I'd aim for liminal states rather than resets, personally.
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>>96450093
jobber talk
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>>96450050
You can still be hurt though. The goblin encounters mentions that, while you will survive no matter what, you are not guaranteed surviving it unscathed and it may have consequences for you down the line.
Thinking your fate makes you immune to anything bad happening is how you get a Charlie style childhood.
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>>96450042
It might not count if Sigard revives you.
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>>96450042
Planning to have someone rez you after you die is literally the exact opposite of how YMRD tells us to beat fated death
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>>96450039
>Whatever your story is needs to end, and at the very least you as a person need to change from who you are now and continue on another path to have that old version of you considered "dead"
Yeah this seems like the right interpretation
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>>96450100
It's either use fate to your advantage by working with it or work against it which causes even more problems and dire consequences.
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>take gremlin encounter for an easy destiny point
>fucker stabs out my magical eye
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>>96450078
I imagine it counts as you so long as you're the one moving it around, but if you take off your cloak and throw it to break line of sight, that would work.
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>>96450131
>Can't annihilate an entire army of gremlins by his 3rd birthday
Jobber, hope you remembered to take Humilitas
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If you:
>picked Maiosara as mother
>picked Ifet as father
>did the keter trick
>took Icon of Icons with too many companions
>did the Dobrava cheese
>have Daemonhost
>learn True Drakonic Solipsism
>took every Malady
>too All-Glimpse
>took Buki
>did not take Ethereal Beauty
You are never going to make it narratively.
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>>96450145
>Waa! Stop making better builds than me!
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>>96450113
I think it would. Siggard uses Phonixization where it describes the ability to flop Yat back to Az. You have to die in order to be revived. Since letters like Zhivete exists, it implies that death, even if avoided, still counts.
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>>96450090
>>96450108
>pixie chads literally cannot lose
There are various methods of regeneration, as mentioned by missed shape.
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>>96450164
Anon you realize that you still lose the gift in there right? So yeah you can get healed but you're not getting that eye or arm gift, which is why you're still getting crippled.
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Remember anons, the only correct build is one with maxed missed shape, buki, all your points burned away, and Charlie as your mentor so you can 1v1 her as soon as possible. If you make any other build you're playing the cyoa wrong.
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>>96450145
>JNPL mother
>One father
>Ethereal Beauty
>Icon of Icons
>Noble Inclination
>Buki
the cannon protagonist
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>>96450171
Thanks C-anon, I will member promise
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>>96450173
Don't forget to take Zhuchika to make a religion based off of you, bossting your icon of icons.
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>>96450169
I'm talking about the description of Missed Shape, not actually taking it...
It mentions that there are other methods of regeneration that could normally restore limbs, provided that you do not have missed shape (and even then there are options)...
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>>96450169
Please stop making the Feodwrafags even more superior, they're insufferable enough
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>>96450180
That's too evil, I think.
No companions, a true protagonist would find them naturally.
All Uruk encounters, because of course
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>>96450145
Comfybros are we back?
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>>96450192
>That's too evil
nta but Zhuchka's entire thing is that after the Old Throne handed her her ass, she became a humaboo and copied parts of their atheist religion while throwing out all the evil parts of her mage-cult to make something new.
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>>96450171
Anyone who makes a build without Meandering Thought, Enochian Collar and SRTR’s blessing to take R’tsy as his death is a coward as far as I’m concerned.
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If you don't take "One" he is never revived as an undead.
If you don't take Feodwra, does she still exist in the world?
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>>96450192
Now that's just asking for it
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>>96450173
>Cha build
Remember to go Northerner too
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>>96450187
Anon that still applies normally. If you had two far grazes and someone chopped off your arm, and you down the line healed it back and regrew it, you'll only have the far graze on the other arm. Gifts are inherently connected to your body, the physical parts. It gets destroyed or cut off, its gone.
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>>96450192
>a true protagonist would find them naturally.
I am pretty sure it's the opposite. Any companion you find outside of fate's decree is "unnatural" while those you choose are not. Though a true protagonist would still be worthy of their friendship and not resting on point buy laurels.
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>>96450173
>Jesus build
Boring.
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>>96450164
Pixie only respawn if they die. I don't think goblins prefer dead women to living ones. On the bright side Charlie will most likely take pity on you. She doesn't like killing broken people like Ciliren on Keter.
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>>96450204
She probably appears at another undisclosed point in the future regardless if she's never picked up by an outsider. Same as Su'uq remaining in dream limbo unless you pick her, which is a rather cruel fate for a cute wifeable fairy.
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>>96450211
>not resting on point buy laurels.
tbf the cyoa mentions several times that there's nothing forcing anyone to stay with you if you're terrible. After you hit adult age anyway, you can still force Charlie to be your reluctant buddy until then.
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>>96449750
Guns in this setting are generally single-shot muzzle-loaded guns and pistols. Dangerous, but there's a reason Iraidia still carries a sword.

Defensive magic is also as common as the demonhunt. You don't even need to spend a mentor on it; it says in the Youth section that it's free if you join up. If that's not your style, All-Glimpse or Mlata's training could also help you steal the secret.
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>>96450210
Just to continue, that's why I'm saying you can still be injured badly or even crippled, just not killed. Being crippled not only traditionally, but also by losing your gifts because you got blinded and lost both your Eyes of Chaos, arms cut off and lost your Mitigating Grips, and your legs losing your Esurient Walks.

You can still be healed back from that, but your gifts will not return, and you've effectively crippled yourself as an Outsider because one of your biggest strengths besides mapping out your fate is access to all your gifts.
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I'm afraid Outsiders will rape me...
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>>96447183
>>96447193
Which builds are murdered by the yandere 12th?
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>>96450210
Where does it say that?
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>>96450234
Don't try to reason with a gunfag, logic and reason go out the window the moment even the most rudimentary firearm enters the picture. Even gods need to cower before a flintlock pistol.
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>>96450236
Candles or flowers, choose one
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>>96450244
It's funny because there are actual, modern firearms in the setting, yet he chooses to wank flintlocks
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>>96450240
Tank himself, and the fact that every single method of healing in the CYOA says "This cannot restore Lost Gifts".
>>96383514
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>>96450237
Ethereal beauty bros...
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>>96450237
We should make a mock-up image build for Twelth honestly.
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>>96450255
Sorry Anon, this is fictional life. The ugly bastard gets the girl
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>>96450254
Everlasting doesn't say that...
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>>96450254
That's super gay. Keter should have no blessings by now. Neither should any Pixie characters.
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>>96450118
Not true. She tells you that you can't simply avoid the letter by hoping that it will never trigger. Savmak tried to avoid betrayal by staying alone, denying fate the opportunity to act. Fulfilling his fate (dying by betrayal) but having a contingency in place (a loyal friend who can resurrect him) is a different strategy.
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>>96450264
Point refunds a eugenics chad, language refunds a linguist, begs jnpl on her hands and knees to let her have ethereal beauty, and then true loves every single outsider still living
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>>96450282
What's the point of a linguist build
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>>96450282
>Point refunds a eugenics chad
I don't want her
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>>96450292
well good, because you're giving her up for adoption
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>>96450279
No, she says that you can't just evade the letter. You have to reinterpret it in a meaningful way. Having someone raise you right after you die is the most meaningless way to try and avoid it, if it was that easy, ever outsider would still be alive.
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>>96450292
What if it was a useless 'all legs' build?
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>>96450292
It was a sacrifice she needed to make
Although it would be funnier if she had some sort of combo perk that made her children era defining
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Honestly, I headcanon away the Inborn Gifts being tied to the limb itself for the purpose of losing them without it.
Always felt that was rather stupid. It would just lead to tons of mutilated people running about from the nations punishing abuse with dismemberment.
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>>96450270
I think getting delimbed would be out of the realm of "most injuries" but who knows, maybe the gods don't want their precious new champion to become boring without their gifts.

>>96450272
Empyreans might have something special with their bodies considering that they can just come back and it really doesn't seem as simple as burning it to ash and being done with it. Though then again Omega is noted for being extra special in being able to pop back into existence even without a body implying that its still an option to blend it into a slurry and scatter it into the ocean.

Or maybe she doesn't anymore. She still has mostly mental gifts though to rely on, even if she had a full loadout of limb gifts too.
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>>96450282
>Point refunds a eugenics chad
That's gonna cuck them out of all the good gifts lmao.
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>>96450264
She should be an Aranea who can give birth from several fathers at once with he egg clutches.
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>>96450306
>'all legs' build
an aranea?
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>>96450327
No, the competition is the best part
(Narratively, it sucks for the people actually participating)
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>>96450327
>She should
No. Why.
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do you get both racial bonuses with halfbreed?
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>>96450318
>I think getting delimbed would be out of the realm of "most injuries"
It's not worth -6 points then
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>>96450204
One will still be revived as undead at some point in the future. He still has a Yee + Zemlya to resolve; fate will just wait for another opportunity and try again.

Nothing about Feodwra indiciates that you taking her is the thing that causes her to appear. She's probably still somewhere in the world like most mentors/companions; fate is just not going to arrange a meeting for you.
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>>96450343
Yes
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>>96450315
You realize that most people don't have Gifts right. The characters we get to select as parents in the Outsider System were explicitly stated to be because of the gifts they offered, and even the Mentors are notable figures because they were able to climb ahead with their gifts, at least for a good amount of them.

Why just charge them with some special punishment when you can do it normally? That's kind of fucked up to mutilate people as a punishment, especially because its not like healing at the level of repairing lost limbs is super accessible.
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>Ratha mom
>Vesryn dad
>Eirina mentor
>Ciliren companions
>Legal Terms And Conditions encounter
>Ethereal Beauty, Noble Inclination, Icon of Icons
Without (((Eldar))) leadership, Doria will not survive.
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>>96450343
Yes

>>96450264
She must have heterochromia and be half emperean half majin, (with 0^0 gone we are all presumably breeding/becoming the angels)
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>>96450282
Cringe and beta
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>>96450352
>This guy kills people by looking at them as a baby from birth
>Should we A, rid out his eyeballs, or B, kill him
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>>96450346
So Immortality and recovery from illnesses isn't worth the cost of like one mentor and like something like Mitigating grip? The real price is the fact you have to earn it, the points is kind of paltry in comparison and you'll only worry about it if you think you can't achieve it.
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>magician's hand
trap or worth it?
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>Yee has no place in the name of [YMRD] due to it breaking established rules
This is due to Yee needing a preceding letter right? As it is "and" both in tankistas native russian and the godscript? Why do I then see Anons throw around Yee + Letter so often?
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>>96450370
> isn't worth the cost
Yes since you still need to earn it afterward. Just get agelessness, then work on unlocking Empyreality.
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>>96450369
jesus christ anon just get them a blindfold or something. The chances of having 2 evil eyes is so slim that I don't think that a "ton of mutilated people" are going to be fleeing from nations because of shit like that. I mean a double bleeding heart gesture or mitigating grip can be trained into a capable soldier, I don't think the first reaction towards most people with gifts is "let's tear it out".

good god thats grim man its not like people don't know about gifts and have no idea how to manage them just because a majority don't have it.
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>>96450383
just pick buki/nilmatrix
fortune favors the bold
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>>96449994
You pick Keter and she tells you how to bullshit things up, specially i you picked Buki, as you should.
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>>96450237
All of them except the Uruks and the people who ventured too far from her clutches.
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>>96450304
Literally dying to the letter is not evading it. It happened, in the most literal and obvious way that it could have. Something else just happened afterwards. It's no different from Zemlya in that regard.

Also, nothing indicates that resurrection magic is common or easy. In fact, phoenixization is specified to be rare and require specific circumstances. There's no reason to believe that other outsiders even had the option.
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>>96450145
It's called being optimal.
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Since anon pointed this cyoa out, I think the section would be fun to use as unofficial DLC for how your upbringing in Outer Reincarnation would go since it's a roll of the dice.

>Housing
What your home environment will be like during your childhood in OR
>Marriage
How well the parents you chose gets along
>Free Time
How much time you'll have to actually do the things you want such as studying, training, etc.
>Peers
How the other kids and teens are going to treat you in OR
>Schooling
How much you actually learn from your mentors. Lowest rolls will get you the bare minimum of what they would teach you, high rolls go beyond
>Pedigree
This will depend on how you are treated by the general public. Even if you have gifts like Ethereal Beauty getting a low roll may get you kidnapped
>Vacations
How hard or easy it'll be for you to travel around the continent. High rolls gets you to your encounters faster while low rolls gets ypu barely anything until you're an adult.
>Involvement
If your parents live, how much they'll stick around with you

So will you have a blessed childhood or will you end up like Charlotte?
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>>96450428
Going ahead and posting the second page for anyone that wants this cyoa in general.
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>>96450426
If you look at history. Optimal Outsiders die quickly.
You have to fuck up repeatedly to live long like Aat.
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Rolled 2, 7, 6, 2, 13, 15, 17, 11 = 73 (8d20)

>>96450428
rollan
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Rolled 20, 7, 18, 6, 18, 14, 13, 16 = 112 (8d20)

>>96450428
I know SRTR wouldn't let me down
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>>96450436
Nah, I'd ascend. They were not me.
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>>96450428
Let's see how this goes
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>>96450437
>poor home
>decent marriage
>decent free time
>poor peers
>decent schooling
>noble pedigree
>amazing vacations
>decent involvement
well, it could be worse...
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>>96450438
>Got an amazing childhood
Charlie really did just have a skill issue and screwed herself over. I won't hear any more slander about SRTR.
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>>96450436
They were rushing things. Trying to do too much too quickly.



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