Every time I search for a cool "barbarian" in some RPG, no matter if it's dark fantasy or not, it's always the half-naked dude or chick that looks like he / she has just wake up after an university party.It gives the same vibes that you get from watching an historical film and for some reason, the filmmakers hate natural colors and must put a filter that ruins your immersion.Is it there a good RPG with proper "barbarians"?
>>96457768Barbarians shouldn’t exist. They re just fighters.
>>96457791There is a reason why I wrote " ".
Dnd 5e, play a fighter
Cute amazon > Your LARP.
>an historical
How can 8th century mongoloids be "barbarians" when the term lost meaning by 476 AD?
>>96457768These barbarians are just warriors. The D&D barbarian isn't a Mongol or a Gaul or whatever, he's a vague cross between the 'noble savage' to 'bloodthirsty native' spectrum of stereotypes plus a bunch of Norse stuff tacked on, just like the Monk doesn't line up with actual monks but rather the Asian Mystic you see in pulp fantasy plus a bunch of kung fu movie tropes.
>>96457768The term Barbarian was originally just a slag on anyone who wasn't Roman. DnD and later works just made it a class because of Conan but even REH would refer to Conan as Cimmerian, as uncivilized certainly but a thief, a reaver a slayer etc
>>96457996>originally just a slag on anyone who wasn't Roman.Greek, but yes.
>>96458016Doesn't the word actually translate to babbler. the whole thing was basically a crack at their language.
>>96458055Yes, Greeks thought that all non-Greek languages sound like incomprehensible "bar bar" speech.
>>96457768No idea why you've picked Uigars to typify your barbarians. But just figure out what you're asking and ask about that. You want Asian Steppe People? You want Gallic people from the beginning of the Roman Empire?What the fuck do YOU mean when you say "Barbarian?" Because all that the word means is "Not Hellenized" and then later "Not Romanized."The image we have of "barbarians" mostly comes from Conan and the stuff that contributed to those stories is pretty varied and includes a lot of really ugly, early twentieth century and late nineteenth century psuedo-science and psuedo-archeology.
>>96457768>Is it there a good RPG with proper "barbarians"?This is a useless question because it depends on the setting of your game.
>>96457768>look up fantasy media>wonder why it uses fantasy terminologyYou're retarded. And as a non-fantasy term it's so vague as to be basically meaningless.
>>96457863Because the term was still being used by Romans ("Byzantines") and Arabs.
>>96458546>* "Romans" (Byzantines)
>>96458316>No idea why you've picked Uigars to typify your barbarians.Because I like would like a Middle Ages RPG, where steppe peoples were smashing out "civilized" states.And I'm tired of the greco-roman version of it.
>>96458564Is there really no Khan based game?
>>96458564That's fine, but my point is: your defining that Uigars are how "barbarians" should be presented is nonsense. You've made that up for no particular reason that has any connection to the word "barbarian."So just say you want Asian Steppe People, instead of saying you want "barbarians."
Barbarian is literally an ethnic slur for White people (and some Asians).
>>96458614Forgotten Realms has it. It's the biggest land area on the planet.
>>96458552latinoid cope
>>96458639No, it meant non-Greek-speaker in the Hellenic period, and non Latin- and/or Greek- speaker in the Roman period (Greek was still the educated/civilized language of most of the Roman Empire). It really has nothing to do with "white" people, which is a notion that wouldn't be invented until long after the Roman Empire died.
>>96457768>>96458564I don't think that I've seen a "!Cossacks" in an rpg fantasy setting outside of Kislev in Warhammer or in Rifts, so this is actually an unfilled niche. This is a very specific definition of the word "barbarian," however; Robert E. Howard really cornered the definition of barbarian with Conan.>>96458731>it meant non-Greek-speaker in the Hellenic period, and non Latin- and/or Greek- speaker in the Roman period true>Greek was still the educated/civilized language of most of the Roman Empiretrue>white" people, which is a notion that wouldn't be invented until long after the Roman Empire died.Tacitus seems to disagree with you in his "Germania." Herodotus in "Histories" and Pericles via Thuycidides in "The Peloponnesian" (and Thuycidides himself, later) also directly contradict you. See also "Europa." There has always been a concept of ethnogenesis and identity in every civilization.t. do not try to fool classics majors
>>96458951There absolutely is not, in tacitus, herodotus, thuycidides or anyone the hell else, anything that even vaguely comports with your notion of "white" people. You are making that up. Did they recognize the northern mediterranean as a particular place? Absolutely. That has fuck-all to do with your notion of "white" people.
Every time I search for a cool "ranger" in some RPG, no matter if it's dark fantasy or not, it's always the Robin Hood wannabe dude or chick that looks like he / she has just wake up after a starring in a disney movie.It gives the same vibes that you get from watching an historical film and for some reason, the filmmakers hate natural colors and must put a filter that ruins your immersion.Is it there a good RPG with proper "ranger"?
>>96458999>Is it there a good RPG with proper "ranger"?Rangers were a concept lifted from LOTR so if you dislike Aragorn you're not gonna like rangers.IRL Rangers were basically 13th century game wardens.
>>96457768It's not a real historical warrior class that can be rigidly categorized, just a catch-all term for foreigners
Every time I search for a cool "Paladin" in some RPG, no matter if it's dark fantasy or not, it's always the Deus Vult wannabe dude or chick that looks like he / she has just wake up after a starring in a disney movie.It gives the same vibes that you get from watching an historical film and for some reason, the filmmakers hate natural colors and must put a filter that ruins your immersion.Is it there a good RPG with proper "Paladin"?
>>96458968I'm nobody's classic major, but from what I can find the general thrust of Greek thought on skin color was it mostly was used in regards to aesthetics. That is, a good looking Man would have swarthy dark skin whereas a good looking Woman would be pale. Though some of Aristotle's takes were pretty spicy."There are some other lines which use "white" to describe greeks, but the only two I can find are of a 2nd century sophist and a Jew. I won't try to use a Jewish person as a factual source on 4chan and a Sophist was basically someone you paid to shout logical fallacies in court so I can't call that very useful.
>>96459129>has just wake up after a starring in a disney movie.Cmon anon, atleast change it to Dragon Quest. Now that just looks lazy of a shitpost
>>96459257I was just following what >>96458999 did. Also, I like Dragon Quest a lot so I rather use Disney for the jab.
>>96459310But anon, I like Dragon Quest and the Disney Robinhood movie.
>>96457768because conan was so special it needed to have a class dedicated to feeling like conan
>>96459029>IRL Rangers were basically 13th century game wardens.They evolved into something like early special forces in the colonial era, which in some ways is closer to the fantasy archetype.
So what does he have to do with Barbarians in the first place?
>>96458951There are Cossacks in Conan RPG. Just google "Entertainer & Kozak (Conan the Brigand)".
>>96459517I hate this little piece of shit so goddamn much
>>96459567It's common to be jealous of people who are smarter than you.
>>96459517ENOUGH TALK!
