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>"New" Apocalyptic Subclasses UA: https://media.dndbeyond.com/compendium-images/ua/apocalyptic-subclasses/KKvJvHGmsJiNaafX/UA2025-ApocalypticSubclasses.pdf
>Survey: https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8435327/D-D-UA-2025-Apocalyptic-Subclasses

>2024 PHB Scan (No more fingers edition)
https://files.catbox.moe/g8oo9h.pdf

>Cropped and rotated, but more artifacty
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>2024 DMG
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>2024 Monster Manual
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>2024 Official free rules
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>2014 Official Free Rules
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>2024 UA
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/ua

>2014 Errata
https://dnd.wizards.com/dndstudioblog/sage-advice-book-updates

>5etools (2024)
http://5e.tools
>5etools (2014)
https://2014.5e.tools/

>Trove
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>Resources:
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>>96443906

>TQ
Ever had a time where inspiration for something in a game came from an unexpected source?
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Multiclassing into Wizard doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Wizards are learned scholars who have to study for years before casting their first cantrip. But a Fighter with 8 INT can just decide that Shield would actually be a pretty good spell to have and pick up one level of Wizard on a whim?
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>>96459731
8 int is below the required ability score required for multiclassing into wizard.

feats / EK would do it though
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>Page of Cups Edition
What kind of cups?
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>>96459731
This is nothing new
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>>96459449
That's how West Marches campaigns go. Imagine a persistent world shared among the tables. If one does some shenanigans, it can affect all.
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>>96459770
THIS ISNT FAIR FIX THIS NOW WOTC FIX IT NOW
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What is the pubes status of your current PC, /5eg/?
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>>96459731
>Multiclassing into Wizard doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
From a roleplay perspective, you'd be correct. Magic Initiate (Wizard) would be the proper way of approaching this. The dude dives into the books, starts picking up on the basics, but being a wizard is a long way to go. Depends how roleplay or meta building your table is leaning towards..
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>>96459795
Dragonborn. Pubes not found. Bad Dragon sponsorship.
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>>96459787
With Elan he'd be better off taking sorcerer rather than wizard since he could probably only cast 0 level spells. With fighter if you care that much about getting shield you can just go eldritch knight.
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>>96459731
Yes it does
>been studying in my spare time
>used to study but never gotten my hands on a proper spell book
It’s easy
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>>96459795
Dark Sun, it's too hot for pubes and he's a gladiator. He has to get them waxxed off regularly.
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>>96459669
no one plays ranger anyway
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>>96459795
Orc barbarian farmer, what do you think
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>>96459851
Im going to play ranger next game tho
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>>96459825
>Wizard teaches you to prove a point to his former teacher
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>>96459768
Ones overflowing with sweet delectable mana (pussy juice)
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Every time my players boss fight an aberration, I try to come up with some gimmicky fight rules

>Luck inversion - 1 is 20, 2 is 19, disadvantage is advantage. (This sucked, I'm never doing it again)
>Visual impairment. The map is covered up by the animated background, but every area hazard is still there, making the players rely on memory to navigate.
>"Time travel". The boss is actually a gauntlet of the most infamous villains of history, and the party perceives themselves as the heroes that defeated them.
>Alternate dimension. The fight is against 2 versions of the same boss, who has to be fought on the material and astral plane simultaneously by the split party.

I'm beginning to run out of ideas. Of good ideas, for certain. I need to come up with something good by the weekend.
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>>96459731
easy, I don't allow multiclassing
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>>96459878
Enjoy shouting flipendo every time you hunter's mark.
On that note the dragon rider subclass str build wielding a lance and a shield with great weapon master (Lance is heavy now), a heavy armor feat and stuff with a noble background who fights straight up and is basically a St George knight shouting Bale at dragons as he marks them is a cool take I haven't seen many go for.

What ranger build are you thinking?
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>>96459824
Would also make sense since both classes are Charisma casters.
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What's the distinction between clothing and armor? I'm workshopping a luchador character based on unarmed combat, which makes me lean towards Monk, but I'm wondering if it would count as armor if I craft myself a mask and tights out of leather for my character's costume, thus making him ineligible for Unarmored Defense. Would it be different if I made it from cloth instead?
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>used to think class-restricted items was dumb and videogame loot-goblin shit
>realize it makes total sense in a magical setting where magic items can deem their wearer 'worthy' like Excalibur
>magic in items also open up for tropes that are cool but illogical like stealth suits and sneaky leather armor usage to make sense since they could be made by a magical material from say a monster that would really make you blend in more with the shadows or what have you, meaning it makes sense for you to wear that stuff instead of a normal outfit which wouldn't give you away as an intruder that you otherwise logically would wear
I've seen the light.
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do you guys have a discord server?
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fuck off
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>>96459865
Hairier than an elderly dwarven woman?
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>>96459731
>But a Fighter with 8 INT can just decide that Shield would actually be a pretty good spell to have and pick up one level of Wizard on a whim?
Not according to the rules. You should try reading them some time.
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Fighters and Wizards should be working together to bully barbarians and bards!
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Can't you just slap shield on some enspelled armor and got to town nowadays?
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>>96460295
>but I'm wondering if it would count as armor if I craft myself a mask and tights out of leather for my character's costume
it would count as armor if it increases your base AC
"clothes of +1" as res-skinned bracers of armored defense would increase your AC without counting as armor, but thats a rare magical item and you should ask your DM if thats okay
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>>96460354
>Cap and Scarlet Witch

I prefer Batman and Harlequinn
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>>96460344
Rules are optional, they also don't address why a 13 INT Fighter retroactively accrued 1 level's worth of Wizard by killing goblins
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What is the deal with players who don't want to engage with the RP and only want to murder hobo and do math?

How is this appealing and why is it so common? Is it just video game brainrot?
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>>96460396
>Is it just video game brainrot?
you confuse cause and effect
people have always wanted to just kill things, video games that let you do that became popular because of that rather than the other way around

if a majority of your players embrace the murderhobo lifestyle, and you cant get new players, then you will just have to adjust to their playstyle
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>>96460396
I dont mind them, I just dont invite them to my game

What I do hate is the ones who say everything they need to say during the interview about how they want something character and story driven, less combat focused, etc, but then the game starts and they turn into a boring opti munchkin. Why can't you find your own game instead of trying to infiltrate mine? Are you so desperate to experience 5e's excellent and incredibly in-depth combat that you just apply to anything and lie about what you want?
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What's the Batman build? Rogue 3, Paladin 3, Fighter 3? He fights unarmed so he must have some Monk levels too.
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>>96460620
hes clearly just a monk rogue
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>>96460620
Monk is good enough now that he's just a shadow monk.
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>>96460358
If you/your DM think enspelled items are a good thing to have in your game.
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>>96460683
batman is a str character, sorry.
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>>96460777
batty does not subscribe to the standard array and he clearly has higher than average stats.
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>>96460794
Dude is maxed out in every stat but charisma. Plus a bunch of bullshit feats given to him by his training with the Tibetan monks.
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Let's assume we have 10 levels to build Batman. Lvl 1 Batsy is still training in Tibet and shiet.
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>>96460620
Batman is a wizard, because every time the plot demands it, he pulls some ridiculous splatbook bullshit out of his ass.
He then refluffs his abilities into "peak human condition", despite the fact that he just dodged the omega beams, or punched out Reverse Flash going full speed, which is something no human being can do.
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Hmm... how would you build a PC that primarily uses bows or crossbows?
Like, feats, class, subclass, tactics?
I was planning to have a Gloomstalker with light crossbows, with Archer as a fighting style, and with the general feat maybe Crossbow Expert, because with that one he'd do more damage.
What do you think? Any ideas, tips?
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>>96459795
Snake, so pubeless.
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>>96460848
>can literally make others take him seriously while wearing a bat costume and can succesfully make people terrified of him even though he never kills anyone and he frequently interrogates people to get them to tell him exactly what he wants
>when not using the bat persona he can successfully play the billionare playboy role and seduce anyone and frequently uses it convincingly to deceive people to think he's dumb while he's infiltrating places or getting information
Nah, he has 20 Cha. It's his wisdom that is shit, frequently fails wis saves to keep his mental shit together and keeps autistically adhering to a code that isn't doing anything to fix the city in any permanent sense, not realizing the endless loop he's in with the other loonies who he plays cops and robbers with over and over again.
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>>96459932
A better time travel gimmick is that the enemy reverses time every time they defeat it, forcing them to exhaust its ability to do so or find clever ways to force the issue.
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>>96460931
this is a batman thread, try reddit instead
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>>96460949
That's a good point, I was thinking about how he tends to fail and fuck up his personal life at every point. Yeah wisdom is bad, also he's most vulnerable to people who fuck with his psyche
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>>96460949
>adhering to a code that isn't doing anything to fix the city in any permanent sense, not realizing the endless loop he's in with the other loonies
Nah, Bats has seen what happens in other universes when he decides to start permanently fixing problems. Yes, he’s trapped in a loop, but that loop DOES keep those other loonies trapped, too. And being stuck in that loop prevents him from becoming a bigger problem than any of them have ever been.
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>>96460982
I want to say it’s been called out multiple times in the comics that he’s self-sabotaging his personal life because he’s afraid of being happy. He’s Batman, not Bruce.
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>>96460949
>even though he never kills anyone and he frequently interrogates people to get them to tell him exactly what he wants
This always seemed like pretty poor writing desu and only a necessity because the audience is meant for children when he holds them up by the cuff and they just spill their beans, since they'd know if anyone was tortured or killed by him. In order for this to be convincing batman would have to be the biggest psychopath asshole on the planet who would infiltrate his enemies' homes and place hidden cameras of embarassing details and threaten to leak that shit or start to threaten to frame them for shit they never did, or start terrorizing them with phone calls and sounds in the middle of the night and shit.
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>>96460976
I don't like actual time travel and never include it in any of my games.
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>>96459795
Cleric man of the cloth; he ritualistically shaves once per month and for certain holiday observances.
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>>96459932
That being said, I DID come up with an interesting idea - gravity manipulation. The boss switches between the normal mode for the map and the Mario mode, in which the PCs are forced to platform around the map to reach it.
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>>96461071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflFQg3g9-c
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>>96460931
I forgot to say it's for dnd 2024
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>>96460794
>>96460848
>as much strength as someone who works out regularly: min 12 STR with 1d6 unarmed strikes
>highly notable dexterity, trained as an acrobat and accurate with thrown weapons: minimum 16 DEX, with proficiency in stealth, acrobatics, and sleight of hand
>INT: see worlds greatest detective, at least 18, proficient in investigation
>WIS: see worlds greatest detective, at least 18, proficient in perception
>CON, above average but can still be defeated with mundane weapons, at least 12
>CHR: heroic willpower is top tier among humans and is valued greater than his physical strength, can seduce even his enemies and can pass off his alter ego as a playboy, minimum of 16, proficient in intimidation and persuasion
>saving throws: DEX, CHR

>worlds greatest detective
>advantage on investigation checks at crime scenes
>advantage on nature, arcana, history skill checks whe analysing evidence
>doubles their proficiency bonus on investigation and perception checks

>AC: 15 + DEX (armored bat suit)
>fire-retardant: grants resistance to fire
>bullet resistant: piercing damage from ranged attacks are reduced by 3

>2 attacks
>has grappler and tavern brawler feats
>unarmed attacks, 1d6 + DEX modifier
>batarang, 1d6 + DEX modifier, thrown (30/60)

>utility belt
>4 prep time charges, restored on short rest
>use 2 charges as a reaction: automatically pass a saving throw
>use 1 charge as a bonus action: can be used re-roll a failed skill check
>biometric lock: only batman can wear the belt, DC 17 perception check to determine its booby trapped, DC 17 sleight of hand to disarm the trap, attempting to wear or open the belt without disarming the trap causes 2d6 lightning damage each time its attempted
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>CHR
>instead of CHA
Why do people do this
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>>96461110
"People" don't. You have a skinwalker in your group, bro.
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>>96460931
fighter is probably going to be better than ranger
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>>96459795
Permanently removed by magic. His dryad gf likes it that way.
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>>96461082
>that pic
jesus fucking christ line up the picture and the vtt grid
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>>96461082
I like that battlemap.
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>>96461083
Funny, he's also Not!Dutch
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>>96460118
I'm gonna steal that.
That's dope.
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>>96460385
The game doesn't go over every single waking minute of someone's life. Evidently a character who multiclasses into wizard had enough of an interest to presumably do the boring nerd shit during his downtime
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>>96459795
Kept meticulously shaven because it's hot as balls out
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>>96461258
To be fair to him, a lot of those rooms do line up well
VTT artists need to draw to match a grid better
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