Clerics can no longer cast spells while using a shield apparently. This is from the new starter set. WotC REALLY wants to destroy that class fantasy for some reason.
What if a shield is my holy symbol?
>>96465669>equipment cardThis is daggerheart isn’t it?
Based. Clerics are too strong and needed this.
>>96465811No, it's the 2025 starter set that is more of a board game than an RPG. It apes the cards from Daggerheart. The ability to cast with a shield is based on your domain now.
>>96465823That seems very odd. If they just wanted to limit shield usage by domain, they could have just written that within each domain. It just seems like a trap option to tell a new player that they can use a shield, but can't cast spells while wearing it. That'll just make people think that a Cleric forgoing spells or only using non-combat and utility spells is a valid option.And if the Starter set is an effort to simplify, why even include multiple domains that function so differently?
Good thing I don't play dungeons and dog shit
>>96465669>This is from the new starter set.So, completely irrelevant to me. I don't see the problem.
>>96466202>>96466234>Um, why did you make a thread about something I'm not involved in?
>why are random people replying to a public thread on a public forum? where's the downvote button?
>>96466294Maybe he's not involved in it because they do stuff like this.It's the oldest, most popular RPG in the world and yet has some of the most bad and confusing design decisions you could ever imagine seeing.
>>96467039The main bad design decision relating to clerics in D&D has always been the fact that they're too damn powerful. Yes, even back in the first edition they were too strong.
>>96465669It's a simplification of the actual rules because it's a fucking starter set. The actual rule is that you need your fucking hand free to perform material component, which as an exception can be substituted with a spell focus, of which holy symbols as an exception can be borne on a shield or fabric.
>>96467285except for the fact that they can't use swords and the best magic items in adnd are swords. not to mention a myriad of restrictions. nice try tho
>>96465794>My religion uses shields as holy symbols!>Says Lathander on your sheet, mateI see no reason why a custom god couldn't have a custom holy symbol, but would someone allow that when it is clearly a metagaming request? Might as well skip the middleman and ask if you can cast without a holy symbol, same shit.
>>96465669I don't play d&d though???
>>96467656Then keep scrolling??
