>No infinite manpower like the Imperium, Tyranids, or Orks>No psychic powers like the Eldar or Imperium>No advanced technology like the Imperium, Necrons, or Eldar>No immortal warrior demigods like the Imperium, Eldar, or Necrons>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the odds
They do have a god now though, psykers soon to come.
>>96489831I love the tau. They're the Dominion from Star Trek, but 40k is such a dystopian setting they're the best guys around.
>>No infinite manpower like the Imperium, Tyranids, or OrksNot wrong>>No psychic powers like the Eldar or ImperiumYet. They got Auxilliaries with that, though.>>No advanced technology like the Imperium, Necrons, or EldarCompared to the Imperium, I'd argur they got better tech which is why they can keep up with the Space Marine pilots.>>No immortal warrior demigods like the Imperium, Eldar, or NecronsThey do got a Goddess, though, and she basically wiped out a DG Warband>>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the oddsUntil their Ethereal decides otherwise or dies.
>>96489865>They got Auxilliaries with that, though.None that will ever see use in the books or tabletop though.>Compared to the Imperium, I'd argur they got better tech which is why they can keep up with the Space Marine pilots.Eh, they're pretty primitive, they thought that the Titans of the Imperium were a myth after all.
>>96489875>None that will ever see use in the books or tabletop thoughNot in tabletop, but once in a book(forgot which one. It was the same with the DG warband).
>but once in a bookImagine actually reading the trash that is 40k 'literature'.
>>96490039I read HH, checkmate.
>>96490048>I read HHDamn I'm sorry, looks like you still haven't recovered from that experience.
>>96490054Do you know how little that narrows it down bro?
>>96490048Why do you do this for yourself? If you love suffering so much, why not just engage in actual BDSM or move to a poor place full of black people?
>>964898311. They do have auxilieres if GW would stop being a bitch and make models for them.2. Shadowsun becoming the mortal champion of the Tau'Va incoming.3. They have a lot of refined and consistant tech that they can make and rebuild on the fly.4. Farsight and Shadowsun even though the reasons they live a long time isn't built into them.5. They are speed running to growing up to be Imperium 2.0. The High Lords just don't pretend to hide their callousness.
>>96490068>why do you do this to yourself?It amuses me.
>>96490080>They do have auxilieresThe combined manpower of all the Tau and auxiliaries would not be .01% of the manpower of the Imperium.>They have a lot of refined and consistant tech that they can make and rebuild on the fly.But still nothing compared to what the other factions have.>Farsight and Shadowsun even though the reasons they live a long time isn't built into them.Put Farsight or Shadowsun up against a Primarch and they will get bitchslapped
>>96489831You forgot>infinite plot armor
>>96490266Eh, everyone has that.
>>96490266>>96490269I mean in fairness the Tau have it like to an insane degree. It's almost comical how many times they've avoided total annihilation based on nothing but sheer luck.
>>96489836Why is one arm white?
>>96490373Part human. The Tau goddess has a bunch of arms of the different Tau client races.
>>96490080>Tau'VaIs litteraly a plothole though
>>96490370Thankfully, things like this never happen in the real world. It's not like Luxembourg only exist because of insane coincidences.
>>96489831No, that would have to be one of the races the T'au enslave.
>>96490402Don't you speak that cursed name in these halls.
>>96489831they are literally>40k faction for people who don't like 40kand thats why their die hard fans suck so much shitWhen they added the Tau they sullied the tone of 40k so much. Most younger 40k fans don't even realise.
>>96490428"Good" places have always existed in 40k. Civilized world ring any bells?
>>96490439this reply is a classic tau schizo reply style, a completely irrelevant meaningless off topic whataboutism>le tau are le good guysthey are an alien totalitarian regime enslaving other races into their empire
>>96490457You can be totalitarian and still be the underdogs.
>>96490457Alright what part of totalitarian bad guys doesn't fit into 40k
>>96490461no, and im not going to feed your trolling. the point of my post was the tone of 40k which was a heavy metal sword and sorcery space opera settingTau turned it into star wars. 40k was not star wars
>>96490470Star Wars is also sword and sorcery though.
>>96490464>>96490439The point is most Tautists refuse to acknowledge the Tau are bad and believe they are good guys.This is the wedge that destroyed 40k
>>96490476I think you're confusing memes with reality. Screaming "For the Greater Good!" doesn't mean you believe in the Greater Good IRL any more than a Helldiver screaming "For Democracy" means he thinks Super Earth is actually democratic IRL.
>>96490475sword and sorcery in the sense of Moorcock. Not Star Wars you fucking retard which is eastern and western inspired
>>96490476Imperium fans also believe the Imperium is the good guy, Chaos fans also believe this about themselves. I think everyone but Tyranid players things their faction is in the right.
>>96490478Stfu, its not memes that Tau attracts a certain type of insufferable socialist that thumbs their nose up at 40k
>>96490482>whataboutismwe are talking about the Imperium, Faggot
>>96490488Well for starters, the Tau are actually textbook fascists. That's the whole appeal.
>>96490496aren't
>>96490503textbook communists. Sure they are fascists if you believe communism is a fascist ideology too and you should.
tau were a leg up for irony poisoned leftwingers to feel comfortable in the 40k fandom while chipping away at it
>>96490509Communism at least pretends to be about class warfare, something which fascism lacks entirely.
>>96490496>T'au fans think they are the good guys, and this new element ruined the setting forever>This isn't new, and this is a fundamental aspect of human nature actually>No one rule for me, and one rule for thee
>>96490515thats the Tau, leftists trying to deny the Tau are commies is the dumbest fucking meme.
>>96490547Except the Tau never once, in any book or other source, mention class.
>>96490551because they dur eliminated class dur you fart huffing moron.They had a communist revolution, Their ideology is called the Tau'va
also thats a lie despite the Tau being a classless society the books mention class stratification in the form of social ranking
>>96490559>They eliminated classThen they wouldn't be commies. Commies don't eliminate class, they just enforce it for their own authoritarian ends.
>>96490571Just stfu pea brain. They are a classless communist society no more moving the goal posts around every reply you faggot commie liar
this is what i hate about tau and tau fanboys, they just use it as an opening to prattle on about politics inanely.Space commies could be fun and an interesting juxtaposition in 40k. Instead they just want to herp derp over irl politics and take everything too seriously.40k was a lot less serious, when it was ironically heavy metal and taken completely straight
>>96490576>Thinking that communism actually worked by eliminating classSo...you're a commie? Because nobody but a commie would think communism was actually successful in eliminating class.
>>96490589Except the first person to bring up politics was not the Tau fan.
>>96490589>40k was a lot less serious, when it was ironically heavy metal and taken completely straightHigher T levels.
>>96490595>>96490482Lying as usual
>>96490614its definitely something like that, tau just invited more low test leftists in,I know these people irl, i just met one recently and hes a tau fag and he still whines about the rest of 40k being too right wing. And naturally he jumped to Trench Crusade
>>96490635weird 4chan linked the wrong posti meant>>96490595>>96490478
>>96490635See >>96490488We can blatantly see how you're lying.
What's with the taufag posting?
>>96489831>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the oddsmore like not being a big enough problem for anyone to deal with
>>96490781Which is what pluckiness is.
>>96490690these threads are usually made by redditor taufags to bait
>>96490690>>96490846It is the same guy who has been doing it for years, he seems to disappear for months, then spams non-stop bait threads for weeks until he gets bored or the jannies start putting his threads on autosageHe used to sometimes have serious discussions about tau lore (mostly his headcanons about how powerful the tau are), but now he seems to assume everyone on /tg/ is against him and instead he constantly tries to provoke argumentsI haven't figured out yet if this is his weird idea of revenge against /tg/, if he actually still thinks he is genuinely persuading people with his arguments, or if he has been doing this so long it is the only thing he feels he is good at
>>96491208yeah hes a well know autist, tautist if you will, they are a dime a dozen from reddit though, r/tau r/40kloreHes one of those autistics that isnt able to read in-between the lines of 40k (and this is how the writers admit they like writing) So is unironically brainwashed by Tau in-universe propaganda and believes hes fighting a propaganda war on here
>>96490503>Well for starters, the Tau are actually textbook fascists. That's the whole appeal.What bullshit. Who appeal of Tau is muh progress, shiny guns out of their ass and enforced retardation to make blue cunts seem like the only reasonable face.Tau are le good guys is the fact of life for majority of their fanbase, who're trying to fool?
>>96490482>Imperium fans also believe the Imperium is the good guyThat's canon. By the reduction of badness.>Chaos fans also believe this about themselvesLol no, Chaos is evil and unapologetic.Although, granted, nuChaos has been increasingly trying to whitewash itself to become le shade of g(r)ay.
>>96491490>Who appeal of Tau is muh progressExcept the Tau are making less progress than the Imperium and still remain the most technologically primitive faction in the setting other than maybe the Orks.The enforced retardation IS an appeal to the Tau, but on the opposite end. It's the Tau's retardation that's funny and makes them appealing. They're the idiots so blinded by indoctrination that they actually thought they could befriend the Dark Eldar. It's the same appeal behind the Helldivers. They're indoctrinated morons, yes, but that's amusing.
>>96491508>Except the Tau are making less progress than the Imperium and still remain the most technologically primitive faction in the setting other than maybe the Orks.You're playing obtuse, or completely ignore their entire lore then.>It's the Tau's retardation that's funny and makes them appealing.That's naivette, and that is genuinely funny, but not what I was talking about. Although that retardation was established in the earliest canon, but Tau didn't exist then.>They're the idiots so blinded by indoctrination that they actually thought they could befriend the Dark Eldar.No, because they know nothing about that.
>>96491523>You're playing obtuse, or completely ignore their entire lore then.My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.>No, because they know nothing about that.Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.
>>96491543>My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.Yeah, and then they invented Gundums. Thought it was later edition.More importantly, they somehow managed to evolve from literal stone age savages into space age with plasmaguns and mass expansion, all within a span of 2000 years, and keep expanding.>Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.Eh, well, many people also believe they can befriend the Dark Eldar, and some in fact do.Considering Tau allied races consist of aviamorph cannibals, or freakish space bugmen, I think it was an honest mistake on their part.
>>96491557>Yeah, and then they invented GundumsWhich are still way weaker and more primitive than a Titan.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4a7sJPXlY3M>More importantly, they somehow managed to evolve from literal stone age savages into space age with plasmaguns and mass expansion, all within a span of 2000 years, and keep expanding.Eh, they had a lot of help from the Eldar and Imperium with that.>Considering Tau allied races consist of aviamorph cannibals, or freakish space bugmen, I think it was an honest mistake on their part.And that's gonna bite them in the ass having so many auxiliaries. The Imperium's rejection of alien auxillaries is learned experience, it's wisdom.
>>96490373Because the Tau do not have a strong warp presence of there own and have no ability to gain warp powers for themselves they can not have real gods in setting. Hell the Tau are so weak spiritually speaking that to them as a species being deeply religious would be seen as being bugfuck insane and outright self harming on a deeply sociological level.It is more proper to say that Tau'Va is more like the goddess of the auxiliary races of the Tau empire. Seeing as they are the ones with the actual psychic potential. And most humans in the Tau empire are so stupid they can not tell a philosophy meant to tell you how you live your life from a god that is to be worshiped and obeyed in all things. The stupid primitives.That is why Tau'Va has so many arms and why they are all different from each other. It is not the Tau themselves that have made the goddess of the greater good in the warp. It was the fault of the humans and other aliens that could not live without a god that are responsible for this mess.
>>96489836>>96491617Are we sure that's not just Tzeentch with boobs?
>>96490457Enslaving is a strong word. Incorporating other races into their empire at gun point may be a more appropriate statement. They are after all made full citizens of the Tau empire with all of the rights and privileges that come with being a citizen. So it is not all bad all things being considered.
I like tau because I like stupid things and dumb blue autocratic collectivists in !samurai armor with !gudams and the pulse rifles from doom are pretty fucking stupid. just like how I prefer 1ed orks tyranids and space marines because they were all fuckin goofy. but 3rd ed stuff was cool too because it was still pretty stupid. 4th ed and on is where they start going mass market appeal and now things are very srs, which is stupid in the unfun way.
>>96491689I mean now that you say it out loud.
>>96490048How much time and money did you waste on what is basically an advert designed to encourage you into buying more plastic toys? Think of the self improvement or things you could have experienced with the same amount of time, money and effort.
>>96491750If the Tau were in the 1ed of the setting how do you think they would have been implemented? Do you think they would have been far stranger looking and outright weird so as to be a real alien faction that is so strange that they even fight in weird and wild ways that no one else even could so as to set them apart from the other fantasy races in space factions that make up 40k? Or do you think they should have just been blue skinned alien space babes from Venus out to steal all of our men for there sexy breeding rituals So as to make even sexier and hotter blue skinned alien space babes so that they could rule the galaxy with how unbearably sexy they all are?
>>96491543>that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.The lore isnt consistant dude, it's just written to sell little toys. Try not to take it to seriously. Remember when the Blood Angels teamed up with the Necrons? Just take from it what you want and ignore the bits you don't like, all the lore is just an advert designed to make you buy more. IT ISNT A FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. If GW makes up and cherry picks lore from moment to moment, so can we.
>>96491807honestly either are probable but since they were mostly an excuse for GW to expand their sphere of ripped off ideas and start adding anime shit, looking at it from that perspective and what was floating around to be consumed in the late 80s idk.
>>96491711not really a strong word, the codexes even poke fun of the Tau's love of Orwellian language. Like exterminate an alien species is called a compliance sweep. Forcibly putting aliens en masse into hard labour, would be something like harmonious worker initiatives.
>>96490370Plenty of tiny, inconsequential and irrelevant kingdoms survived in real life, and land is at a premium on earth compared to the immense vastness of a galaxy
>>96491807they obviously fit the dogs of war faction but gw flubbed it.
>>96491791>thinking I wasted money on booksDid you really believe I would do that when pdfs and epubs exist?
>>96490054Imagine having succumb to making purchases of small plastic toys WITHOUT having been subjected to hundreds of hours of brainwashing beforehand.
>>96491862>>96490126>The combined manpower of all the Tau and auxiliaries would not be .01% of the manpower of the Imperium.Then why the Imperium is afraid to invade T'au space?>But still nothing compared to what the other factions have.As per the lore, the T'au have superior technology to the Imperium especially in sensor and stealth departments.>Put Farsight or Shadowsun up against a Primarch and they will get bitchslappedPrimarchs have lost against Marines. It's established that Shadowsun and Farsight are far above Marines in warmaking, and in the case of Farsight, in physical combat. >>96491862That's cope.We have sources from the codexes and campaign booksNovels and short stories that show the lives of allied races on the ground. Alsop reports on the Imperials about the state of the T'au allied races.All of them state generally the same thing. They aren't slaves but (second class) citizens
>>96490370Many times?Name three times then.
>>96491543>My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.Not true.The average Tau on the ground believed them as propaganda. The Blades of Damocles novels shows that the Tau were working on anti-titans weapons before they even met the Imperium.>Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.The same Drukhari group pulled the same scam on the Imperials. Unlike the T'au, the Imperials couldn't figure out they were being scammed.>>96491599Wrong.The Stormsurges are stated to obliterate Imperial titans.In the first Mike Brooks Ork novel, trio of broadside suits crippled a warlord titan.>Eh, they had a lot of help from the Eldar and Imperium with that.No, that's not true.>And that's gonna bite them in the ass having so many auxiliaries. The Imperium's rejection of alien auxillaries is learned experience, it's wisdom.Actually, Dan Abnett debunked that in a podcast. It's based on a lie by the Emperor which is why the Imperium is the only human civilization that developed dogmatic xenophobia
>>96490592Once again the projection is strong for commies.