Previous Thread: >>96499472Kitchen Table Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Depends. I'll ask them what they want to play and adjust my deck to that power level. Anywhere from a low 3 to mid 4.
>>96505571That green chick from homelands that cant be blasted by targeted spells is pretty rad
>>96505571I don't have bros
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?I used to lead with 3rd Doc / SarahNow I lead with Zurgod. But Im still revamping zurgo so tbd
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Are we having fun or playing powerful/competitive decks? Yarok attractions if fun, Shroofus if competitive
>Stamina Regeneration Field>2WW>Enchantment>You may activate abilities of creatures you control any number of times each turn.>Each triggered ability you control is counted as the first time the ability triggers each turn.
>>96505630>2WWURIs the balanced cost for this.
Wait guys. Bros. Here me out. I know how to save the format. Bring back tuck effects for commanders.>Hinder>Hallowed BurialIt will help revitalized the format by not having so many decks be centered and reliant on their commander, which is a good thing.
Every time I try to build this jolly fuck I come out with no deck and a headache. Anyone got cool lists for him I can steal ideas from?
>costs like 8 euro Holy shit fuck wizards for never reprinting some staple uncommons for literally no reason
>>96505659>137 cards where the color identity ≤ GUW and it’s legal in Commander and the card types include “golem”Seems pretty straightforward to me. Include the ETB/LTB ones to double up on their stuff because you get a copy when they die
>try to make a low-power deck >finish >ah this can make it better >oh this card is a nice upgrade >this helps my combo >this speeds it up a bit >this covers my weakness>now it's too strong >rip it up and start from the beginning again how do I stop
>>96505664That one's gonna be a pain to see a reprint of too, since it's MDFC AND fuckin' tied to a specific plane. We basically have no chance of seeing it reprinted in any meaningful capacity unless they go back to zendikar or if it makes it into a masters set.
UB is at its best when it's a setting that doesn't fit mtg's aesthetic.What's the point of wanting more sets that are LOTR-lite when mtg planes are already LOTR-lite? Shouldn't UB planes feel distinct? Shouldn't all planes feel distinct?Then again mtg's aesthetic is cowboys piloting racecars and spaceships now so maybe LOTR doesn't fit the mtg aesthetic at this point.
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Depends how strong they of a deck they're using:Pre-con level Jund AristocratsIzzet AggoAzorius PillowfortRakdos Storm
>>96505731>low-powered deck>my combo
>>96505754>low power means you can't win the gameokay retard
>>96505754It could potentially be a 5 card rube goldberg jankmachine that wins him the game. Not every combo is a 2-3 piece "Win the game" button.
>>96505677The problem isn't that I don't know the synergies it's that there's so many to decide between and I just wind up doing nothing
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Probably whatever I brewed up most recently to see how it does, or something that I know is on-par with something one of my bros wants to play. Or sometimes, I'll just roll at random to select one off my archidekt and use that.
>>96505731>low power deck>combo
>>96505769>no combo>no win>
yes
Standings vs my wife's ahrabo deckDimir: 1-0Rakdos: 0-1Gruul: 1-1Selesnya: 1-0Azorious: 0-1
>>96505779You know it's not
>>96505754Hey man that's what happens when spike and timmy find johnny's little hideout of a format.
so anyways i crack defense of the heart...and i'm going to play...marauding raptor and polyraptor
>>96505649>which is a good thingreddit speak.kys søyfag
>>96505649Getting rid of tuck was the beginning of the end and we all knew it at the time.
>2 of my 3 games tonight had the same guy who fucking sulks and gets moody whenever someone DARES counter his game-winning spellssorry for not letting you get infinite creatures guess I'm the asshole
>>96505887Ah yes, the classic Ajani's Chosen line. At least this game didn't end with a scepter combo
>>96505909I find it funny how many people don't realize edh is the youtubepoop format. Congrats wotc, you saw people enjoying it and instead of fixing your actual formats you took them behind the shed and capped em like old yeller. You took a shitpost and made it your premier format.This guy belongs in a different format but gets stuck here.
>>96505571>you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Been wanting to play my Cruelclaw deck again. Everyone loves free dragons.
>>96505735Can they do MDFCs on a bonus sheet if the set already has them?
>>96505944I mean you're not wrong. He cut his teeth on 60 card formats, we used to play modern back when people actually played paper modern at our lgs.But he's also the sorta guy that fucking REE's when he sees someone play blue even in 60 card formats.
>>96505970hopefully not. MDFCs were a mistake.
>>96505976Fuckin knew it
>>96505944Standard still lives, in arena. Legacy is fucked forever because the stupid reserve list policy, despite being the best constructed format. Modern is fucked due to constant power creep in every set. EDH is now the best eternal format.
>>96505992arena is not MtG, doesn't matter how you spin it.
>>96505992Honestly mh3 did more to fuck legacy than the RL ever did
>>96505991If standard and modern weren't turbo aids and enough people for a tournament actually showed up I'd be playing them. Our LGS stopped hosting modern after months of 3-7 people showing up.So here we are, competitive players get to play "cedh"
>>96505998You're 40 years old
>>96506035
>>96506042nta, but Arena has a sketchy-ass shuffler, along with a hidden ELO system, and card weighing to affect match-making. As someone who appreciates the presentation of MTG:A, I can understand not liking it, and rejecting it on a conceptual level. Also, despite the automation of the client, the concept of a token cap is mad gayalso also, the limited card pool really pisses me off.oh, don't even get me started in alchemy...actually, I think I really hate Arena.
>>96506042>not true random shuffler>numerous bugs for how cards interact>doesn't have all the cardsit's not trve magic
>>96506053he cute
>>96506058>>96506061The shuffled thing is a myth btw, it had issues at launch but the guy who exposed those issues with a large scale study later came out and said they fixed it and that draws are within statistical expectation now.
>>96506086ok>numerous bugs for how cards interact>doesn't have all the cardsstill not trve magic
>>96506058The token cap is the only thing on that list I'll defend. Since it's almost certainly a programming limitation. They almost certainly could fix it, but it's likely more trouble than it's worthAlchemy is an abomination though and will literally never cease to piss me off. It should've been a format that they dump test cards into to see how they interact and can be tweaked on the fly before going to print. But instead of utilizing the digital nature for the overall betterment of the game, the used it to make a parasitic format that's unplayable outside of arena and will cease to exist when the servers go down.
>>96506093I think most bugs are rather minor issues but yeah the card selection sucks.Can't believe they just skipped Innistrad Remastered, that set has so many awesome cards.
>>96506096I hate that Brawl has alchemy cards in it and there's no other commander format
>>96506096>Need to explicitly state a 'Game' to be 'Paper' when searching cards on scryfall, because it can contaminate search results with dogshit fake cards brewed by retards if I don'tVERY cool
>>96506086The fact that it had "issues" at launch is still a black mark against them. Could they be unintentional? Definitely. But I just flat out wouldn't trust a company like Hasbro to have a system like that be an accident. The only reason it's gone is cause they got called out for it.
>>96506058>Arena has a sketchy-ass shufflerOfficially only in best of one. >along with a hidden ELO systemCan't speak to this one.>and card weighing to affect match-making.Officially only in Brawl.Still better than trying to play on Spreadsheet the Gathering.
>>96505659It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.>>96505677I am working on a build that focuses on the golem support and making 1/1 creatures support but oddly enough when I look at what other decks do most people seem to ignore that. Lot of other decks go with food support. It's tough trying to mix that idea with golems but boy I am trying.
>>96506109Brawl's another format that will die immediately upon arena's death. Or rather, go back to being dead, since there was a bit of time where it WAS dead before they reanimated that cadaver to have a commander-like in arena.It will never not be funny that wizards durdled so fucking hard with Arena's development and rollout, that they accidentally managed to fully kill standard in that time.>>96506111Unironically scryfall should just default to not having those show up in search results.Planechase and the like don't fucking show up by default, why the hell should alchemy?
What is the best tech for this bad boy? I want to build him as chaos stax.
>>96506027Legacy will always have a tiny player base due to RL price capping new players out
>>96506154Probably the usual trigger doubling stuff, alongside other cards that reward people attacking your opponents
>>96505659This guy feels like he'd be decently easy to make a list from. Good amount of enter the battle creatures and some sacrifice outlets to enable doubling up on things. Then some of the good splicers to buff the golems. What about the deck usually trips you up? I remember considering him a while back as well but just never got around to it.
>>96505571I usually like to start with whatever deck I was tinkering with throughout the week leading up to game night. Get an idea on how the stuff I've been considering and put in works and what I still think needs work on. The last couple weeks I've been working on Six so it would probably be him. Then as the night goes on I'll either keep with that deck or move around depending on the vibe of the table.
>>96505659This guy likes ETBs
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?My Jund dragons deck, it's fun and I like how ridiculous it's deckbox is. I need to get a proxy made of my general Vaevictis as Trogdor the Burninator one of these days.
>>96506154Anything that gives creatures Shadow.
>>96505649This is dumb and would have the opposite effect. People would just include more protection and tutors
>>96505649Tuck has always been retarded. here is your (you) you petulant tardlet
>>96505649Yes I agree we need more blue farms in the wild.
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls [Group Slug] - Deck to keep the games fast later in the night.The Mycotyrant [Token+Self Mill] - Pet deck that I always bring. Love me mushroom man.Raffine, Scheming Seer [Reanimator] - Something relatively recent I've been working on, and so keen to test it out.The Locust God [Wheels/Token] - for when people start ramping up into spicier decks.Imotekh the Stormlord [Necron Precon] - I always keep this on hand in case a newbie joins and wants to play with the precon they just picker up.
>>96506058I appreciate that arena exists for me to get some live testing with new decks I'm considering in paper against real opponents quickly. Built this on Arena when it first came out and quickly discovered it's actually mad gay and annoying.
Anons, I am considering putting this card on my Saruman deck with a bunch of dumb big spells. Please tell me it is a bad idea or I might do it.
>>96506354Do it.
honest opinions on this card?I cant tell if this is a potential game winner and reasonable value generator or am I memeing myself
>>96506402you are totally memeing yourself, there are SO many better ways to generate wins and value out of a wide board than thisBut it's not always wrong to meme
>>96506402I used it in my dune brood nephilim deck to some success. I don't know if I would play it anywhere else though it's a really really shit card when you're behind.
>>96506464Oh shit I did that too.
>>96506470My nigga
>new bloomburrow flavored cards in arena>can't be printed because of spider-manThanks, Marvel/Disney. I'd rather use Treat Trolley for Food themed deck.
>>96506402He looks like he'd be decently versatile depending on your deck. I had him in my Isshin. The damage and removal he provides depending on the deck look like they'd be great. Just haven't played the deck enough to actually see it play out though.
>>96506546>HOTDOGS - ON YOUR RIGHT - COMING UP!
>>96506546that art looks amazing
>>96506549no one thinks your joke ai thing is funny, stop pushing it
>>96506546>whitewashes your cardNothing personnel, kid.
>>96506562it's funny because it's retarded and accurate
>>96506546I'll be honest, I never really minded Universes Beyond cards or their art, usually anyway, but seeing all this Omen Path Universes Within versions kind of makes me wish we had those as options in paper too. Especially for things like Doctor Who and this set. That these all visit various planes for their inspiration is great and feels like it would have made a good "around the magic universes" set where they just go around all the planes for a couple of cards. The theming of making some of the villains arena pit fighters is cool way to work around some of the limitations.
>>96506565right one fits a lot better with the effect -Repair- should be something that returns to the battlefield, not to your hand
>>96506571I like how this one card mindbroke you, as if he haven't had truly awful flavor text before in the past, this ONE card lives your head rent free.
>>96506573it either should've been about some simic mutants escaping or some new capenna boxing/wrestling thing
>>96506571>Doesn't get the joke of unexpected things interrupting man>During a death race>That literally had driving sharks you need to dodgeThe things that trigger some people...
>>96506586>some new capenna boxing/wrestling thingThere's a few cards that are in what looks to be Capenna and even a few with the boxing fight club theme, but they didn't really fully commit to making it a full in set theme like they should have. It would have been an clean way to make both heroes and villains all work by being wrestlers for entertainment and money in Capenna. I guess there hasn't been many spiders in Capenna so they didn't commit to the bit?
>>96506546So is there any way to get high quality rips of the art from Arena? Usually the art from the game looks weirdly unfocused and has low quality shots. I would have really liked to have some of these as cards with these arts.
>>96506587okay that dude on the left absolutely does not look like he can wrestle a bearwhy isn't he like a 0/2 or so
>>96506571Anon, the thing is that yours doesn't actually make sense. This is actually depicting someone trying to speak and being interrupted by the need to call out a sudden danger before resuming their train of thought. Are you stupid?
>>96506557>what happenedUnironically fursecution. The great civil war on nerd culture.
>>96505677>the golem buff he provides is supposedly the interesting part>meanwhile he just makes his own golemsare you fuggan stupid? Would be much better to look for ETBs and your typical blink package. I don't even wanna bother what kind of stank Golems do when they come down
>>96505859>1v1 edh
once again posting about how WOTC are monsters for making a spiderman card the first bit of moebius art we get in the game instead of an frazetta-style secret lair.
>>96506640I think brawl is a good format
>>96506640>1v1 edh with your wifesovl, unironically the way garfield intended
>>96506607Oof
>>96506575>he never had a handyman over to fix something only for him to just hand over a blueprint schematic of the broken thing
>>96506618But he can kill morbius in an epic duel to deathcan that other anon explain again how morbius is actually super significant because he was in a 25-35 year old cartoon show?
>>96506680that statline means Morbius has a harder time kiling Guy in Chair than vice versa lole
>>96506546Another Bloomburrow themed card.
>>96506702b-but... it's morbin time
>>96506709bit uncanny how the silhouette and positioning of the characters in action match, down to Venoms left claw, including the taxi/branch the mouse stands on
Watching this game turn into licensed IP slop has been like watching your game server turn into tranny central. You hang youre head in despair, shed a singular, saltiest tear ever shed, and then move on and never look back. For a long while, we had something beautiful going, that transcended its greedy corporate origins, and we let it all slip away. For shame.
>>96506752>slop>trannyopinion already discarded, please try again
>>96506755not an argument
>>96506757>doesn't know what an argument isPlease try again
>>96506752>and then move on and never look back.So why are you still here? Seems to me you're not moving on at all.
>>96506764>expecting anything from mr buzzwordmanmorbilicious
Comics are so gay.
>>96506795ZOOMER DETECTED
JUST A REMINDER: the reason wotc has started to put robots, aliens, race cars, and whatever else into magic lore has one sole reason and it isn't because the designers think the aesthetic should evolve. the reason for it is that one of the main complaints about universes beyond from the very beginning was "this property does not fit with magic's aesthetic". 40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vibe. lord of the rings was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. final fantasy was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. spongebob, stranger things, street fighter, walking dead, etc. were all complained about because the were major breaks in the aesthetic. by branching out what the magic IP's aesthetic is with universes within, the wider array of outside IPs that can be used for universes beyond can be used with minimal complaint from the consumer base. oh, you are going to complain about spock or captain kirk on a card or the enterprise as a vehicle? but it already fits the aesthetic! look, we have edge of eternities to show you that sstar trek DOES fit the aesthetics of mtg!i have no qualms with the expanding aesthetics of magic except for the fact that it was done for the most cynical, money grubbing reason.
>>96506842k
>Wall between arena and paper gets thinner>Cage rattling
>>96506842>40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vibNo
>>96506842not any of the fags shitting on you, but I just want you to know I appreciate your passion for magic even if I don't 100% agree with the premise of your position. Thank you for trying to actually drum up conversation and not just posting "SHOW DECKS" for the 10,000th time.
>>96506842finally a shizo post i can get down with
>>96506865He cute
>>96506865>mechanic that literally doesn't exist in papersorry retardo
>>96506896nta but of all the alchemy mechanics conjure is one of the most likely to get printedAnd why? because it means being able to sell EVEN MORE COPIES of cards
>>96506896https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg?si=2dV7-fI6_37YqVyR
>>96505659theft and sacmy favorite is tempting licid+tolarian entrancer
>>96506903>acornYes, I'm sure. Considering this is just an expensive proxy of an Arena card.
>>96506154the goading auras, anything deathtouch, maha effectively gives everything deathtouch
>>96506910Data showed it was popular enough to physically print and data will convince wotc to let the alchemy cards into EDH in the end. You can only run from the truth for so long.
>>96506917>print a bunch of fake cards that no one is allowed to use>make one from arena who references all of said fake cards to encourage you to buy themyeah and those 1,000 dollar fake black lotuses and moxes are gonna become legal too, right? neck yoself before you wreck yoself my nigra
>>96506923They already sold those too
>>96506855>>96506872i'm right.>>96506866except it was. there were still people who complained about it, for sure. but the overwhelming response for 40K, the first full set/product (as in no a secret lair or alt art treatment like godzilla), was that it could have been much worse and at least they did it with something that has a semi-similar aesthetic and is probably something that a lot of players are already into (seeing as a lot of tcg players are also tabletop gamers as well). sure, it is more sci-fi than magic had really been at that point, but they were already starting to push the boundaries with neon dynasty cyberpunk aesthetics (probably also testing the waters there because they already had an idea from market research surveys about how players feel about UB aesthetics clashing with UW aesthetics and wanted to test with NEO to see how players would respond to a shift in magic's aesthetics that allow for a broader range of IPs that won't clash with that aesthetic).>>96506882there has always been an expanding and shifting sense of what "should" be allowed in the creative team's eyes, but the extent that i am talking about is what allowed a cheerleader in sneakers and CRT screens to show up on duskmourne.
>>96506402Brutal in an Isshin wide aggro deck. Meh in anything else. The activated ability is a meme unless you have enough Deathtouch/high power creatures to take advantage.Overall, a thorough B-tier card in the right deck.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96506903>reprinting the power nine>everEven if they were token cards, they would never do that though the conjure mechanic from Alchemy may someday make it's way to paper
>>96506842This but unironically. Murders was clearly done to make the clue crossover easier to digest, and it worked.I have to wonder if aetherdrift had a mad max crossover in the works that just fell through.
>>96506164When legacy fired in my area I played with shocksAs long as some guy wasn't playing burn it didnt matter muchAlso most LGSs ive seen allow 6-8 proxiesThe format was incredible before mh3, now its just modern but more
>>96506326>Built this on ArenaWhat did he mean by this?
>>96506412So basically its the perfect edh card? I agree.
>>96506562I laughed the first few times
>>96506643Thats zombie spiderman
>>96506752I unironically agree, but instead of quitting I continue to play with the cards I have. Ive not purchased anything since 2022. When my collection runs its course, then ill quit
>>96506842This hardly even needs to be said. Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.
>>96506326pretty kitty
>>96507206>Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.what is wrong about the 40k bit? that it mostly fits the vibe of mtg or that players were more okay with it than walking dead?
>>96507194it's capeshit and that is what i care about. they should have given me some shit from the incal or some other work of moebius'. i don't want to see spiderman or zombie spiderman or whatever the fuck. and i want more than one card and i don't want that card to be goddamn ponder.
>go to LGS for a game or three of commander>LGS immediately begins ranting about how if anyone has proxies they're getting banned from the storeNow I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuff, but why the fuck is this such a big deal? Do people actually pride themselves in dumping thousands of dollars on "official" cardboard? They didn't notice my shit either.
>>96507217It clashes severely on an aesthetic front and that fucking frame is an atrocity.
>>96507247>things that didn't happen
>>96507247My lgs had a no swearing policy and threatened to ban people. Nerds have no spine though lolA year later nobody has been banned and theres a fuck fuck fuck fuck cancer poster hanging on the wall lmao
>>96507277Don't know what to tell you. My LGS has the following rules for EDH:>no infinite combos>no brackets, but players are strongly encouraged to not come in thinking it's cedh>no proxies
>>96506120>It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.Exactly, I keep getting stuck trying to figure out how much of any one thing to do. I think I just need to cut the major artifact synergies and focus on etb combos >>96506169I think the only splicer I actually want is the indestructible one but I guess the trampler would be good. >>96506907Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like that
>>96506120>newfag is frustrated that his deck isnt paint by numbersThis is a johnny format get used to it
>>96507247I can only assume its because they are afraid of WOTC. There is a real of no proxies in sanctioned events, so if it was a paid commander night they might be afraid of getting in trouble.
>>96507255>It clashes severely on an aesthetic frontdemons and mechanical horrors don't really clash with magic's aesthetics. again, nowhere near the level that downtown modern manhattan does. is 40K the exact aesthetic of magic? no. is it close enough in line that it does not offend the sensibilities of people? for sure. the set's reaver titans and dreadnoughts also didn't look out of place when it released a month before brothers war with all of its mechanical monstrosities everywhere.>that fucking frame is an atrocity.i like UB frames more than the regular frame.
>>96507507>demons>mechanical horror>leaves out literally everything elseYou cant pick and choose, its all a package deal.The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtgAlso the power level was more usable than other ub sets.
Just give me actual warhammer fantasy already. The aesthetic fits and we would get a lot of tribal support to dwarfs, elves, rats, and various undead factions. There's more than enough to easily make a full set, unlike spiderman which clearly struggled to fill out its extra slots.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-09-25-yeva/?cb=1757342166I made this yeva deck using EDH rec, cards I remember from back in the day, and also other tappedout lists.It was originally weaker. I was aiming for around 50-60 USD but it comes out to over 100 which is still alright I suppose. Here are some questions I have>I have lots of ramp spells and mana elves. Are they redundant or do I need even more?>do I need more card draw?>are my finishers (overrun effects) sufficient? I added Garruk for and extra overrun>is bow of nylea enough recursion?>What are my high-priority tutor targets with fauna shaman, woodland bellower and Mwonvuli beast tracker?>Do I need more artifact and enchantment hate?>How do I protect from/mitigate/play around wrath effects?I'm proxxying the sol ring cause it's ridiculous how impossible they are to get when you can own one copy and resleeve it every time you play a different deck. I don't even own a copy, just a rules card with a neon green sticky note on it. even after dozens of reprints people buy a new copy for each of their 15 decks. Meanwhile 14 of them are sitting in the deck box doing nothing at any given time. You can only play 1 deck at a time!!!I have also chosen to not put in seedborn muse. It's expensive and seems too strong, almost unfun for everyone else. I'm afraid of the deck being too strong since Yeva is really strong and versatile. But I also fear that the one-dimensional strategy of mono green stomp can get kneecapped by designed-for-commander fuckery cards and control.
>>96507553>you can't pick and chooseArmored humans/knights, genetically modified warriors, huge war machines, demons, and mechanical horror, then. Still works great since we have Phyrexia and Mirrodin.
>>96507584>conveniently leaves out the most iconic thing about the settingWell i guess this conversation is over
Somebody once told me that nobody ITT actually talks about the game. I thought they were just joking or being hyperbolice but I'm starting to see that's the case. This might be the worst AND fastest moving thread on /tg/ next to the 40k generalanyway do you guys have any favorite pieces of basic land art?
>>96507553>leaves out literally everything elseoh, like tyranids? because magic doesn't have beasts and bug monsters either, right? space marines? they look like big armoured dudes, which magic has. the biggest departures to the aesthetic that 40K had were guns and spaceships.>People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtgyou misunderstand the argument. it isn't that people bought it *because* it fit aesthetically, it is that enfranchised players were not as repulsed by an outside IP as they were things like jurassic park and spongebob. 40k, lotr, and FF were more well received by naysayers than stranger things, walking dead, transformers, etc. because the aesthetic departure of the former listed IPs is a lot less than the departure of the latter listed IPs. if you are denying that there has not been a very vocal point made over the years about what outside IP makes a good 'fit' for mtg (usually some form of sword & sorcery type thing or some IP that spun out off a riff on D&D), you are just telling me that you aren't very in tune with what anyone is saying. the point has been made ad nauseum that something like 40K is a better fit for mtg than something like spiderman.>The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.brothers war released a month after the 40K decks, making it seem a lot less out of place. plus, all the individual elements described can be found spread across many planes, but the main plane (dominaria) has enough 40K parallels to make the aesthetic not seem out of place. but then factor in shit from innistrad and kaladesh and anything to do with the eldrazi and you get enough to make up the difference.
>>96507611what is, in your mind, the most iconic thing about the setting?>space marinesgenetically modified warriors are in mtg and ravnican giants are about the size/build of a space marine. >the warpblind eternities and the eldrazi>god emperoryawgmoth
>>96507611We get it you hate big pauldrons
>>96507619Funnily enough, you posted my favorite mtg basic art. The way the 4 mountains fit together and the beautiful OG Kamigawa aesthetic kills me. I actually have a set of them, but I considered if I ever do mono-red, splitting my lands evenly between them so I can lay them out like that.
>>96507507If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasyBut they dontThey care about money so they did 40k>the ub frameUb frames are not universal, the 40k one is pretty bad
>>96507619Posting john avon is cheating, he is a god of landscape art. I really REALLY hope the new lorwyn lands don't suck.
>>96507567I feel like the thing with this commander is you want to be able to hold up mana to run creatures that interact when they enter or are cast when it's convenient. Also what are you using cards like ghalta for besides being big? How are you leveraging the unique thing your commander does to build a deck that's gonna feel new and fresh for you?
If YOU could make a 4 color commander, anon, what would it be?
>>96507626>>96507634The bolter you actual retardsThe automatic handheld rocket launcher Nobody sees a space marine and goes>oh he must be genetically alteredThey see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set. No contest its better than fallout or spoodermin but i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.
>>96507659>If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasythat is also not the claim that was made. your reading comprehension is abysmal. i am not even making complex claims or obfuscating my point. i have been very plain when getting my point across.>Ub frames are not universalyes they are. since 40K, they have used one frame for anything that isn't alt art/booster fun bullshit.
>>96507695I wouldn't 4c historically has been a massive problem for all highlander formats, not just edh. Creating more would not benefit the format. You know what? Ban partners and we can talk.
>>96506553No it doesnt lmao it looks passable (which is what it is, a tranny card passing as mtg)
>>96506573This is such a bad card its hilarious
If I want to be an annoying little shit with Slivers, which Sliver should be my commander? I've got everyone but Queen (Legion, Hivelord, Overlord, Gravemother, First). Overlord seemed good to me, since he can ftutor out all other Slivers with his ability.
>>96507349>Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like thatYes, it says when a creature you control dies.You don't need to own it.
>>96505677TRIBAL BRAIN LMAO HOLY FUCK THIS IS RETARDED HE MAKES EVERYTHING INTO A GOLEM YOU MORON AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
>>96507247>Now I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuffNeither are real cards, and thus the point is moot.
>dogshit set>now I have to look at it twice because people wanna pretend they magically love it when it transitions StMNo conviction and stop posting cards that have already been posted this isnt arena just shitting up the thread
>>96507231>IncalKino, just came back from reading Metabarons. Not Moebius, but same writer.
>>96507702>The bolter you actual retardsthe bolter is not more iconic than the space marine itself. a specific gun is not the most iconic thing.>They see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set.guns have existed in magic before AND i mentioned that guns and being in space were the only real big departures of the aesthetics. YES it is sci-fi, NO it is not entirely incompatible. magic also has a bunch of sci-fi elements like cyborgs, automatons, genetic alterations, and more. the whole point is not that 40K is exactly the same as mtg, the point is that 40K is close enough that it was far less offensive of a departure than many crossovers. the point is that mtg is expanding the IPs aesthetic sensibilities in an attempt to curb UB naysayers who do so under the banner of "it ruins the aesthetic sensibilities of the game". you're such an autistic pedant that you literally can't understand what is being said.>i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.FF is also scifi and has guns/gun swords. mtg is actually closer to 40K than lotr.
>>96506842I think AtLA fitLiterally they should just stick with fantasy, there's no shortage of big fantasy franchises
>>96507709>im not obfuscating>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspects >ub frames I guess so, looking at it closerThe 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was somethingIs it the foil treatment? I guess it could be the art clashing too.
I'm fine with UB personally
Sex with goblins
Literally NO UB lore belongs in magic. Nothing fits. FF didnt fit, Dr Who doesn't fit, 40k doesnt fit, lotr doesnt fit nothing fits because we all KNOW these are separate IPs and separate lore. We just lied to ourselves but deep down everyone knows nothing but magic (despite your opinions on its lore and aesthetics) fit in magic. Everything else is a stretch from the get go.
>>96506402He's fine, he'd probably see more play if he wasnt locked to mardu>>96506652Unironcally it just needs a better ban list>>96506865He would be simic in paper, the only reason he isn't in arena is because merfolk are simic on ixalan and the cats are selesnya>>96507619This gen is full of troon obsessed weirdos who don't play the game and just want to be mad. In terms of lands I really liked the full art seasonal lands from Bloomburrow>>96507721Case and point btw >>96507737>Yes, it says when a creature you control dies.I assumed needing to exile it meant I would need to control it in my graveyard for the ability to resolve
>>96507798>Exile it instead It never goes to the graveyard when his ability triggers
>>96507619Loved the stained glass lands from Dominaria United nothing beat them yet imo
>>96507798>case and pointIts case in point you mouthbreathing dumb fuck. And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism. That post is talking about the game by the way loterally as much as yours.
>>96507805Ah shit do I miss dies triggers then or no? My understanding was the creature dies, Brenard triggers, and then I get to exile the card as it's hitting the grave
>>96507831>slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism.So every land in the game especially snow lands are trannies?
>>96507839Depends on the wording of the effect. Some will put them into exile instead, in that case they never hit the graveyard. Others will say when a card is put into your graveyard do..... those will trigger him.
>>96507775>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspectsi never claimed it wasn't sci fi. i even brought up "guns and spaceships" specifically as the biggest departures to magic's aesthetics. and i am not obfuscating the point because i stated it very clearly multiple times that despite the differences to magic's aesthetics, 40K was less offensive to enfranchised players than some of the other UB products that have come out. i never claimed that it was a PERFECT 1:1 fit, just that they are close enough that there were less complaints than if the first UB commander deck had been something like the simpsons.>The 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was somethingyou are remembering your initial reaction to a new frame more than anything. when 40K came out, they were the only UB cards with the frame, which made them stick out. you remember that and the memory alters your perception despite the frame being the same other UB products.>>96507787i am talking about aesthetics and vibes, not actual lore.
>>96507846>>96506842Final Fantasy was called UB slop what do you mean it was accepted? People just stopped talking about it because of Spiderman.
>>96507831Shit I fucked up a phrase that totally makes you sound less deranged and obsessed>And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism. >"everything is literally the most recent thing that I hate"Oh wait >literallyHaha it's literally spelled "literally" you retard>>96507842Snow lands are white face
>>96507857>Final Fantasy was called UB slopby literally who? this thread? r/freemagic? yeah wow like 100 people at most.
>>96507872yes we're going by these threads unless you want to go by a youtubers opinion.
