Previous Thread: >>96499472Kitchen Table Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Depends. I'll ask them what they want to play and adjust my deck to that power level. Anywhere from a low 3 to mid 4.
>>96505571That green chick from homelands that cant be blasted by targeted spells is pretty rad
>>96505571I don't have bros
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?I used to lead with 3rd Doc / SarahNow I lead with Zurgod. But Im still revamping zurgo so tbd
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Are we having fun or playing powerful/competitive decks? Yarok attractions if fun, Shroofus if competitive
>Stamina Regeneration Field>2WW>Enchantment>You may activate abilities of creatures you control any number of times each turn.>Each triggered ability you control is counted as the first time the ability triggers each turn.
>>96505630>2WWURIs the balanced cost for this.
Wait guys. Bros. Here me out. I know how to save the format. Bring back tuck effects for commanders.>Hinder>Hallowed BurialIt will help revitalized the format by not having so many decks be centered and reliant on their commander, which is a good thing.
Every time I try to build this jolly fuck I come out with no deck and a headache. Anyone got cool lists for him I can steal ideas from?
>costs like 8 euro Holy shit fuck wizards for never reprinting some staple uncommons for literally no reason
>>96505659>137 cards where the color identity ≤ GUW and it’s legal in Commander and the card types include “golem”Seems pretty straightforward to me. Include the ETB/LTB ones to double up on their stuff because you get a copy when they die
>try to make a low-power deck >finish >ah this can make it better >oh this card is a nice upgrade >this helps my combo >this speeds it up a bit >this covers my weakness>now it's too strong >rip it up and start from the beginning again how do I stop
>>96505664That one's gonna be a pain to see a reprint of too, since it's MDFC AND fuckin' tied to a specific plane. We basically have no chance of seeing it reprinted in any meaningful capacity unless they go back to zendikar or if it makes it into a masters set.
UB is at its best when it's a setting that doesn't fit mtg's aesthetic.What's the point of wanting more sets that are LOTR-lite when mtg planes are already LOTR-lite? Shouldn't UB planes feel distinct? Shouldn't all planes feel distinct?Then again mtg's aesthetic is cowboys piloting racecars and spaceships now so maybe LOTR doesn't fit the mtg aesthetic at this point.
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Depends how strong they of a deck they're using:Pre-con level Jund AristocratsIzzet AggoAzorius PillowfortRakdos Storm
>>96505731>low-powered deck>my combo
>>96505754>low power means you can't win the gameokay retard
>>96505754It could potentially be a 5 card rube goldberg jankmachine that wins him the game. Not every combo is a 2-3 piece "Win the game" button.
>>96505677The problem isn't that I don't know the synergies it's that there's so many to decide between and I just wind up doing nothing
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Probably whatever I brewed up most recently to see how it does, or something that I know is on-par with something one of my bros wants to play. Or sometimes, I'll just roll at random to select one off my archidekt and use that.
>>96505731>low power deck>combo
>>96505769>no combo>no win>
yes
Standings vs my wife's ahrabo deckDimir: 1-0Rakdos: 0-1Gruul: 1-1Selesnya: 1-0Azorious: 0-1
>>96505779You know it's not
>>96505754Hey man that's what happens when spike and timmy find johnny's little hideout of a format.
so anyways i crack defense of the heart...and i'm going to play...marauding raptor and polyraptor
>>96505649>which is a good thingreddit speak.kys søyfag
>>96505649Getting rid of tuck was the beginning of the end and we all knew it at the time.
>2 of my 3 games tonight had the same guy who fucking sulks and gets moody whenever someone DARES counter his game-winning spellssorry for not letting you get infinite creatures guess I'm the asshole
>>96505887Ah yes, the classic Ajani's Chosen line. At least this game didn't end with a scepter combo
>>96505909I find it funny how many people don't realize edh is the youtubepoop format. Congrats wotc, you saw people enjoying it and instead of fixing your actual formats you took them behind the shed and capped em like old yeller. You took a shitpost and made it your premier format.This guy belongs in a different format but gets stuck here.
>>96505571>you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Been wanting to play my Cruelclaw deck again. Everyone loves free dragons.
>>96505735Can they do MDFCs on a bonus sheet if the set already has them?
>>96505944I mean you're not wrong. He cut his teeth on 60 card formats, we used to play modern back when people actually played paper modern at our lgs.But he's also the sorta guy that fucking REE's when he sees someone play blue even in 60 card formats.
>>96505970hopefully not. MDFCs were a mistake.
>>96505976Fuckin knew it
>>96505944Standard still lives, in arena. Legacy is fucked forever because the stupid reserve list policy, despite being the best constructed format. Modern is fucked due to constant power creep in every set. EDH is now the best eternal format.
>>96505992arena is not MtG, doesn't matter how you spin it.
>>96505992Honestly mh3 did more to fuck legacy than the RL ever did
>>96505991If standard and modern weren't turbo aids and enough people for a tournament actually showed up I'd be playing them. Our LGS stopped hosting modern after months of 3-7 people showing up.So here we are, competitive players get to play "cedh"
>>96505998You're 40 years old
>>96506035
>>96506042nta, but Arena has a sketchy-ass shuffler, along with a hidden ELO system, and card weighing to affect match-making. As someone who appreciates the presentation of MTG:A, I can understand not liking it, and rejecting it on a conceptual level. Also, despite the automation of the client, the concept of a token cap is mad gayalso also, the limited card pool really pisses me off.oh, don't even get me started in alchemy...actually, I think I really hate Arena.
>>96506042>not true random shuffler>numerous bugs for how cards interact>doesn't have all the cardsit's not trve magic
>>96506053he cute
>>96506058>>96506061The shuffled thing is a myth btw, it had issues at launch but the guy who exposed those issues with a large scale study later came out and said they fixed it and that draws are within statistical expectation now.
>>96506086ok>numerous bugs for how cards interact>doesn't have all the cardsstill not trve magic
>>96506058The token cap is the only thing on that list I'll defend. Since it's almost certainly a programming limitation. They almost certainly could fix it, but it's likely more trouble than it's worthAlchemy is an abomination though and will literally never cease to piss me off. It should've been a format that they dump test cards into to see how they interact and can be tweaked on the fly before going to print. But instead of utilizing the digital nature for the overall betterment of the game, the used it to make a parasitic format that's unplayable outside of arena and will cease to exist when the servers go down.
>>96506093I think most bugs are rather minor issues but yeah the card selection sucks.Can't believe they just skipped Innistrad Remastered, that set has so many awesome cards.
>>96506096I hate that Brawl has alchemy cards in it and there's no other commander format
>>96506096>Need to explicitly state a 'Game' to be 'Paper' when searching cards on scryfall, because it can contaminate search results with dogshit fake cards brewed by retards if I don'tVERY cool
>>96506086The fact that it had "issues" at launch is still a black mark against them. Could they be unintentional? Definitely. But I just flat out wouldn't trust a company like Hasbro to have a system like that be an accident. The only reason it's gone is cause they got called out for it.
>>96506058>Arena has a sketchy-ass shufflerOfficially only in best of one. >along with a hidden ELO systemCan't speak to this one.>and card weighing to affect match-making.Officially only in Brawl.Still better than trying to play on Spreadsheet the Gathering.
>>96505659It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.>>96505677I am working on a build that focuses on the golem support and making 1/1 creatures support but oddly enough when I look at what other decks do most people seem to ignore that. Lot of other decks go with food support. It's tough trying to mix that idea with golems but boy I am trying.
>>96506109Brawl's another format that will die immediately upon arena's death. Or rather, go back to being dead, since there was a bit of time where it WAS dead before they reanimated that cadaver to have a commander-like in arena.It will never not be funny that wizards durdled so fucking hard with Arena's development and rollout, that they accidentally managed to fully kill standard in that time.>>96506111Unironically scryfall should just default to not having those show up in search results.Planechase and the like don't fucking show up by default, why the hell should alchemy?
What is the best tech for this bad boy? I want to build him as chaos stax.
>>96506027Legacy will always have a tiny player base due to RL price capping new players out
>>96506154Probably the usual trigger doubling stuff, alongside other cards that reward people attacking your opponents
>>96505659This guy feels like he'd be decently easy to make a list from. Good amount of enter the battle creatures and some sacrifice outlets to enable doubling up on things. Then some of the good splicers to buff the golems. What about the deck usually trips you up? I remember considering him a while back as well but just never got around to it.
>>96505571I usually like to start with whatever deck I was tinkering with throughout the week leading up to game night. Get an idea on how the stuff I've been considering and put in works and what I still think needs work on. The last couple weeks I've been working on Six so it would probably be him. Then as the night goes on I'll either keep with that deck or move around depending on the vibe of the table.
>>96505659This guy likes ETBs
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?My Jund dragons deck, it's fun and I like how ridiculous it's deckbox is. I need to get a proxy made of my general Vaevictis as Trogdor the Burninator one of these days.
>>96506154Anything that gives creatures Shadow.
>>96505649This is dumb and would have the opposite effect. People would just include more protection and tutors
>>96505649Tuck has always been retarded. here is your (you) you petulant tardlet
>>96505649Yes I agree we need more blue farms in the wild.
>>96505571>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls [Group Slug] - Deck to keep the games fast later in the night.The Mycotyrant [Token+Self Mill] - Pet deck that I always bring. Love me mushroom man.Raffine, Scheming Seer [Reanimator] - Something relatively recent I've been working on, and so keen to test it out.The Locust God [Wheels/Token] - for when people start ramping up into spicier decks.Imotekh the Stormlord [Necron Precon] - I always keep this on hand in case a newbie joins and wants to play with the precon they just picker up.
>>96506058I appreciate that arena exists for me to get some live testing with new decks I'm considering in paper against real opponents quickly. Built this on Arena when it first came out and quickly discovered it's actually mad gay and annoying.
Anons, I am considering putting this card on my Saruman deck with a bunch of dumb big spells. Please tell me it is a bad idea or I might do it.
>>96506354Do it.
honest opinions on this card?I cant tell if this is a potential game winner and reasonable value generator or am I memeing myself
>>96506402you are totally memeing yourself, there are SO many better ways to generate wins and value out of a wide board than thisBut it's not always wrong to meme
>>96506402I used it in my dune brood nephilim deck to some success. I don't know if I would play it anywhere else though it's a really really shit card when you're behind.
>>96506464Oh shit I did that too.
>>96506470My nigga
>new bloomburrow flavored cards in arena>can't be printed because of spider-manThanks, Marvel/Disney. I'd rather use Treat Trolley for Food themed deck.
>>96506402He looks like he'd be decently versatile depending on your deck. I had him in my Isshin. The damage and removal he provides depending on the deck look like they'd be great. Just haven't played the deck enough to actually see it play out though.
>>96506546>HOTDOGS - ON YOUR RIGHT - COMING UP!
>>96506546that art looks amazing
>>96506549no one thinks your joke ai thing is funny, stop pushing it
>>96506546>whitewashes your cardNothing personnel, kid.
>>96506562it's funny because it's retarded and accurate
>>96506546I'll be honest, I never really minded Universes Beyond cards or their art, usually anyway, but seeing all this Omen Path Universes Within versions kind of makes me wish we had those as options in paper too. Especially for things like Doctor Who and this set. That these all visit various planes for their inspiration is great and feels like it would have made a good "around the magic universes" set where they just go around all the planes for a couple of cards. The theming of making some of the villains arena pit fighters is cool way to work around some of the limitations.
>>96506565right one fits a lot better with the effect -Repair- should be something that returns to the battlefield, not to your hand
>>96506571I like how this one card mindbroke you, as if he haven't had truly awful flavor text before in the past, this ONE card lives your head rent free.
>>96506573it either should've been about some simic mutants escaping or some new capenna boxing/wrestling thing
>>96506571>Doesn't get the joke of unexpected things interrupting man>During a death race>That literally had driving sharks you need to dodgeThe things that trigger some people...
>>96506586>some new capenna boxing/wrestling thingThere's a few cards that are in what looks to be Capenna and even a few with the boxing fight club theme, but they didn't really fully commit to making it a full in set theme like they should have. It would have been an clean way to make both heroes and villains all work by being wrestlers for entertainment and money in Capenna. I guess there hasn't been many spiders in Capenna so they didn't commit to the bit?
>>96506546So is there any way to get high quality rips of the art from Arena? Usually the art from the game looks weirdly unfocused and has low quality shots. I would have really liked to have some of these as cards with these arts.
>>96506587okay that dude on the left absolutely does not look like he can wrestle a bearwhy isn't he like a 0/2 or so
>>96506571Anon, the thing is that yours doesn't actually make sense. This is actually depicting someone trying to speak and being interrupted by the need to call out a sudden danger before resuming their train of thought. Are you stupid?
>>96506557>what happenedUnironically fursecution. The great civil war on nerd culture.
>>96505677>the golem buff he provides is supposedly the interesting part>meanwhile he just makes his own golemsare you fuggan stupid? Would be much better to look for ETBs and your typical blink package. I don't even wanna bother what kind of stank Golems do when they come down
>>96505859>1v1 edh
once again posting about how WOTC are monsters for making a spiderman card the first bit of moebius art we get in the game instead of an frazetta-style secret lair.
>>96506640I think brawl is a good format
>>96506640>1v1 edh with your wifesovl, unironically the way garfield intended
>>96506607Oof
>>96506575>he never had a handyman over to fix something only for him to just hand over a blueprint schematic of the broken thing
>>96506618But he can kill morbius in an epic duel to deathcan that other anon explain again how morbius is actually super significant because he was in a 25-35 year old cartoon show?
>>96506680that statline means Morbius has a harder time kiling Guy in Chair than vice versa lole
>>96506546Another Bloomburrow themed card.
>>96506702b-but... it's morbin time
>>96506709bit uncanny how the silhouette and positioning of the characters in action match, down to Venoms left claw, including the taxi/branch the mouse stands on
Watching this game turn into licensed IP slop has been like watching your game server turn into tranny central. You hang youre head in despair, shed a singular, saltiest tear ever shed, and then move on and never look back. For a long while, we had something beautiful going, that transcended its greedy corporate origins, and we let it all slip away. For shame.
>>96506752>slop>trannyopinion already discarded, please try again
>>96506755not an argument
>>96506757>doesn't know what an argument isPlease try again
>>96506752>and then move on and never look back.So why are you still here? Seems to me you're not moving on at all.
>>96506764>expecting anything from mr buzzwordmanmorbilicious
Comics are so gay.
>>96506795ZOOMER DETECTED
JUST A REMINDER: the reason wotc has started to put robots, aliens, race cars, and whatever else into magic lore has one sole reason and it isn't because the designers think the aesthetic should evolve. the reason for it is that one of the main complaints about universes beyond from the very beginning was "this property does not fit with magic's aesthetic". 40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vibe. lord of the rings was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. final fantasy was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. spongebob, stranger things, street fighter, walking dead, etc. were all complained about because the were major breaks in the aesthetic. by branching out what the magic IP's aesthetic is with universes within, the wider array of outside IPs that can be used for universes beyond can be used with minimal complaint from the consumer base. oh, you are going to complain about spock or captain kirk on a card or the enterprise as a vehicle? but it already fits the aesthetic! look, we have edge of eternities to show you that sstar trek DOES fit the aesthetics of mtg!i have no qualms with the expanding aesthetics of magic except for the fact that it was done for the most cynical, money grubbing reason.
>>96506842k
>Wall between arena and paper gets thinner>Cage rattling
>>96506842>40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vibNo
>>96506842not any of the fags shitting on you, but I just want you to know I appreciate your passion for magic even if I don't 100% agree with the premise of your position. Thank you for trying to actually drum up conversation and not just posting "SHOW DECKS" for the 10,000th time.
>>96506842finally a shizo post i can get down with
>>96506865He cute
>>96506865>mechanic that literally doesn't exist in papersorry retardo
>>96506896nta but of all the alchemy mechanics conjure is one of the most likely to get printedAnd why? because it means being able to sell EVEN MORE COPIES of cards
>>96506896https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg?si=2dV7-fI6_37YqVyR
>>96505659theft and sacmy favorite is tempting licid+tolarian entrancer
>>96506903>acornYes, I'm sure. Considering this is just an expensive proxy of an Arena card.
>>96506154the goading auras, anything deathtouch, maha effectively gives everything deathtouch
>>96506910Data showed it was popular enough to physically print and data will convince wotc to let the alchemy cards into EDH in the end. You can only run from the truth for so long.
>>96506917>print a bunch of fake cards that no one is allowed to use>make one from arena who references all of said fake cards to encourage you to buy themyeah and those 1,000 dollar fake black lotuses and moxes are gonna become legal too, right? neck yoself before you wreck yoself my nigra
>>96506923They already sold those too
>>96506855>>96506872i'm right.>>96506866except it was. there were still people who complained about it, for sure. but the overwhelming response for 40K, the first full set/product (as in no a secret lair or alt art treatment like godzilla), was that it could have been much worse and at least they did it with something that has a semi-similar aesthetic and is probably something that a lot of players are already into (seeing as a lot of tcg players are also tabletop gamers as well). sure, it is more sci-fi than magic had really been at that point, but they were already starting to push the boundaries with neon dynasty cyberpunk aesthetics (probably also testing the waters there because they already had an idea from market research surveys about how players feel about UB aesthetics clashing with UW aesthetics and wanted to test with NEO to see how players would respond to a shift in magic's aesthetics that allow for a broader range of IPs that won't clash with that aesthetic).>>96506882there has always been an expanding and shifting sense of what "should" be allowed in the creative team's eyes, but the extent that i am talking about is what allowed a cheerleader in sneakers and CRT screens to show up on duskmourne.
>>96506402Brutal in an Isshin wide aggro deck. Meh in anything else. The activated ability is a meme unless you have enough Deathtouch/high power creatures to take advantage.Overall, a thorough B-tier card in the right deck.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96506903>reprinting the power nine>everEven if they were token cards, they would never do that though the conjure mechanic from Alchemy may someday make it's way to paper
>>96506842This but unironically. Murders was clearly done to make the clue crossover easier to digest, and it worked.I have to wonder if aetherdrift had a mad max crossover in the works that just fell through.
>>96506164When legacy fired in my area I played with shocksAs long as some guy wasn't playing burn it didnt matter muchAlso most LGSs ive seen allow 6-8 proxiesThe format was incredible before mh3, now its just modern but more
>>96506326>Built this on ArenaWhat did he mean by this?
>>96506412So basically its the perfect edh card? I agree.
>>96506562I laughed the first few times
>>96506643Thats zombie spiderman
>>96506752I unironically agree, but instead of quitting I continue to play with the cards I have. Ive not purchased anything since 2022. When my collection runs its course, then ill quit
>>96506842This hardly even needs to be said. Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.
>>96506326pretty kitty
>>96507206>Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.what is wrong about the 40k bit? that it mostly fits the vibe of mtg or that players were more okay with it than walking dead?
>>96507194it's capeshit and that is what i care about. they should have given me some shit from the incal or some other work of moebius'. i don't want to see spiderman or zombie spiderman or whatever the fuck. and i want more than one card and i don't want that card to be goddamn ponder.
>go to LGS for a game or three of commander>LGS immediately begins ranting about how if anyone has proxies they're getting banned from the storeNow I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuff, but why the fuck is this such a big deal? Do people actually pride themselves in dumping thousands of dollars on "official" cardboard? They didn't notice my shit either.
>>96507217It clashes severely on an aesthetic front and that fucking frame is an atrocity.
>>96507247>things that didn't happen
>>96507247My lgs had a no swearing policy and threatened to ban people. Nerds have no spine though lolA year later nobody has been banned and theres a fuck fuck fuck fuck cancer poster hanging on the wall lmao
>>96507277Don't know what to tell you. My LGS has the following rules for EDH:>no infinite combos>no brackets, but players are strongly encouraged to not come in thinking it's cedh>no proxies
>>96506120>It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.Exactly, I keep getting stuck trying to figure out how much of any one thing to do. I think I just need to cut the major artifact synergies and focus on etb combos >>96506169I think the only splicer I actually want is the indestructible one but I guess the trampler would be good. >>96506907Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like that
>>96506120>newfag is frustrated that his deck isnt paint by numbersThis is a johnny format get used to it
>>96507247I can only assume its because they are afraid of WOTC. There is a real of no proxies in sanctioned events, so if it was a paid commander night they might be afraid of getting in trouble.
>>96507255>It clashes severely on an aesthetic frontdemons and mechanical horrors don't really clash with magic's aesthetics. again, nowhere near the level that downtown modern manhattan does. is 40K the exact aesthetic of magic? no. is it close enough in line that it does not offend the sensibilities of people? for sure. the set's reaver titans and dreadnoughts also didn't look out of place when it released a month before brothers war with all of its mechanical monstrosities everywhere.>that fucking frame is an atrocity.i like UB frames more than the regular frame.
>>96507507>demons>mechanical horror>leaves out literally everything elseYou cant pick and choose, its all a package deal.The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtgAlso the power level was more usable than other ub sets.
Just give me actual warhammer fantasy already. The aesthetic fits and we would get a lot of tribal support to dwarfs, elves, rats, and various undead factions. There's more than enough to easily make a full set, unlike spiderman which clearly struggled to fill out its extra slots.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-09-25-yeva/?cb=1757342166I made this yeva deck using EDH rec, cards I remember from back in the day, and also other tappedout lists.It was originally weaker. I was aiming for around 50-60 USD but it comes out to over 100 which is still alright I suppose. Here are some questions I have>I have lots of ramp spells and mana elves. Are they redundant or do I need even more?>do I need more card draw?>are my finishers (overrun effects) sufficient? I added Garruk for and extra overrun>is bow of nylea enough recursion?>What are my high-priority tutor targets with fauna shaman, woodland bellower and Mwonvuli beast tracker?>Do I need more artifact and enchantment hate?>How do I protect from/mitigate/play around wrath effects?I'm proxxying the sol ring cause it's ridiculous how impossible they are to get when you can own one copy and resleeve it every time you play a different deck. I don't even own a copy, just a rules card with a neon green sticky note on it. even after dozens of reprints people buy a new copy for each of their 15 decks. Meanwhile 14 of them are sitting in the deck box doing nothing at any given time. You can only play 1 deck at a time!!!I have also chosen to not put in seedborn muse. It's expensive and seems too strong, almost unfun for everyone else. I'm afraid of the deck being too strong since Yeva is really strong and versatile. But I also fear that the one-dimensional strategy of mono green stomp can get kneecapped by designed-for-commander fuckery cards and control.
>>96507553>you can't pick and chooseArmored humans/knights, genetically modified warriors, huge war machines, demons, and mechanical horror, then. Still works great since we have Phyrexia and Mirrodin.
>>96507584>conveniently leaves out the most iconic thing about the settingWell i guess this conversation is over
Somebody once told me that nobody ITT actually talks about the game. I thought they were just joking or being hyperbolice but I'm starting to see that's the case. This might be the worst AND fastest moving thread on /tg/ next to the 40k generalanyway do you guys have any favorite pieces of basic land art?
>>96507553>leaves out literally everything elseoh, like tyranids? because magic doesn't have beasts and bug monsters either, right? space marines? they look like big armoured dudes, which magic has. the biggest departures to the aesthetic that 40K had were guns and spaceships.>People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtgyou misunderstand the argument. it isn't that people bought it *because* it fit aesthetically, it is that enfranchised players were not as repulsed by an outside IP as they were things like jurassic park and spongebob. 40k, lotr, and FF were more well received by naysayers than stranger things, walking dead, transformers, etc. because the aesthetic departure of the former listed IPs is a lot less than the departure of the latter listed IPs. if you are denying that there has not been a very vocal point made over the years about what outside IP makes a good 'fit' for mtg (usually some form of sword & sorcery type thing or some IP that spun out off a riff on D&D), you are just telling me that you aren't very in tune with what anyone is saying. the point has been made ad nauseum that something like 40K is a better fit for mtg than something like spiderman.>The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.brothers war released a month after the 40K decks, making it seem a lot less out of place. plus, all the individual elements described can be found spread across many planes, but the main plane (dominaria) has enough 40K parallels to make the aesthetic not seem out of place. but then factor in shit from innistrad and kaladesh and anything to do with the eldrazi and you get enough to make up the difference.
>>96507611what is, in your mind, the most iconic thing about the setting?>space marinesgenetically modified warriors are in mtg and ravnican giants are about the size/build of a space marine. >the warpblind eternities and the eldrazi>god emperoryawgmoth
>>96507611We get it you hate big pauldrons
>>96507619Funnily enough, you posted my favorite mtg basic art. The way the 4 mountains fit together and the beautiful OG Kamigawa aesthetic kills me. I actually have a set of them, but I considered if I ever do mono-red, splitting my lands evenly between them so I can lay them out like that.
>>96507507If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasyBut they dontThey care about money so they did 40k>the ub frameUb frames are not universal, the 40k one is pretty bad
>>96507619Posting john avon is cheating, he is a god of landscape art. I really REALLY hope the new lorwyn lands don't suck.
>>96507567I feel like the thing with this commander is you want to be able to hold up mana to run creatures that interact when they enter or are cast when it's convenient. Also what are you using cards like ghalta for besides being big? How are you leveraging the unique thing your commander does to build a deck that's gonna feel new and fresh for you?
If YOU could make a 4 color commander, anon, what would it be?
>>96507626>>96507634The bolter you actual retardsThe automatic handheld rocket launcher Nobody sees a space marine and goes>oh he must be genetically alteredThey see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set. No contest its better than fallout or spoodermin but i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.
>>96507659>If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasythat is also not the claim that was made. your reading comprehension is abysmal. i am not even making complex claims or obfuscating my point. i have been very plain when getting my point across.>Ub frames are not universalyes they are. since 40K, they have used one frame for anything that isn't alt art/booster fun bullshit.
>>96507695I wouldn't 4c historically has been a massive problem for all highlander formats, not just edh. Creating more would not benefit the format. You know what? Ban partners and we can talk.
>>96506553No it doesnt lmao it looks passable (which is what it is, a tranny card passing as mtg)
>>96506573This is such a bad card its hilarious
If I want to be an annoying little shit with Slivers, which Sliver should be my commander? I've got everyone but Queen (Legion, Hivelord, Overlord, Gravemother, First). Overlord seemed good to me, since he can ftutor out all other Slivers with his ability.
>>96507349>Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like thatYes, it says when a creature you control dies.You don't need to own it.
>>96505677TRIBAL BRAIN LMAO HOLY FUCK THIS IS RETARDED HE MAKES EVERYTHING INTO A GOLEM YOU MORON AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
>>96507247>Now I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuffNeither are real cards, and thus the point is moot.
>dogshit set>now I have to look at it twice because people wanna pretend they magically love it when it transitions StMNo conviction and stop posting cards that have already been posted this isnt arena just shitting up the thread
>>96507231>IncalKino, just came back from reading Metabarons. Not Moebius, but same writer.
>>96507702>The bolter you actual retardsthe bolter is not more iconic than the space marine itself. a specific gun is not the most iconic thing.>They see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set.guns have existed in magic before AND i mentioned that guns and being in space were the only real big departures of the aesthetics. YES it is sci-fi, NO it is not entirely incompatible. magic also has a bunch of sci-fi elements like cyborgs, automatons, genetic alterations, and more. the whole point is not that 40K is exactly the same as mtg, the point is that 40K is close enough that it was far less offensive of a departure than many crossovers. the point is that mtg is expanding the IPs aesthetic sensibilities in an attempt to curb UB naysayers who do so under the banner of "it ruins the aesthetic sensibilities of the game". you're such an autistic pedant that you literally can't understand what is being said.>i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.FF is also scifi and has guns/gun swords. mtg is actually closer to 40K than lotr.
>>96506842I think AtLA fitLiterally they should just stick with fantasy, there's no shortage of big fantasy franchises
>>96507709>im not obfuscating>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspects >ub frames I guess so, looking at it closerThe 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was somethingIs it the foil treatment? I guess it could be the art clashing too.
I'm fine with UB personally
Sex with goblins
Literally NO UB lore belongs in magic. Nothing fits. FF didnt fit, Dr Who doesn't fit, 40k doesnt fit, lotr doesnt fit nothing fits because we all KNOW these are separate IPs and separate lore. We just lied to ourselves but deep down everyone knows nothing but magic (despite your opinions on its lore and aesthetics) fit in magic. Everything else is a stretch from the get go.
>>96506402He's fine, he'd probably see more play if he wasnt locked to mardu>>96506652Unironcally it just needs a better ban list>>96506865He would be simic in paper, the only reason he isn't in arena is because merfolk are simic on ixalan and the cats are selesnya>>96507619This gen is full of troon obsessed weirdos who don't play the game and just want to be mad. In terms of lands I really liked the full art seasonal lands from Bloomburrow>>96507721Case and point btw >>96507737>Yes, it says when a creature you control dies.I assumed needing to exile it meant I would need to control it in my graveyard for the ability to resolve
>>96507798>Exile it instead It never goes to the graveyard when his ability triggers
>>96507619Loved the stained glass lands from Dominaria United nothing beat them yet imo
>>96507798>case and pointIts case in point you mouthbreathing dumb fuck. And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism. That post is talking about the game by the way loterally as much as yours.
>>96507805Ah shit do I miss dies triggers then or no? My understanding was the creature dies, Brenard triggers, and then I get to exile the card as it's hitting the grave
>>96507831>slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism.So every land in the game especially snow lands are trannies?
>>96507839Depends on the wording of the effect. Some will put them into exile instead, in that case they never hit the graveyard. Others will say when a card is put into your graveyard do..... those will trigger him.
>>96507775>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspectsi never claimed it wasn't sci fi. i even brought up "guns and spaceships" specifically as the biggest departures to magic's aesthetics. and i am not obfuscating the point because i stated it very clearly multiple times that despite the differences to magic's aesthetics, 40K was less offensive to enfranchised players than some of the other UB products that have come out. i never claimed that it was a PERFECT 1:1 fit, just that they are close enough that there were less complaints than if the first UB commander deck had been something like the simpsons.>The 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was somethingyou are remembering your initial reaction to a new frame more than anything. when 40K came out, they were the only UB cards with the frame, which made them stick out. you remember that and the memory alters your perception despite the frame being the same other UB products.>>96507787i am talking about aesthetics and vibes, not actual lore.
>>96507846>>96506842Final Fantasy was called UB slop what do you mean it was accepted? People just stopped talking about it because of Spiderman.
>>96507831Shit I fucked up a phrase that totally makes you sound less deranged and obsessed>And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism. >"everything is literally the most recent thing that I hate"Oh wait >literallyHaha it's literally spelled "literally" you retard>>96507842Snow lands are white face
>>96507857>Final Fantasy was called UB slopby literally who? this thread? r/freemagic? yeah wow like 100 people at most.
>>96507872yes we're going by these threads unless you want to go by a youtubers opinion.
>>96507842No that makes absolutely zero sense and only an illogical moron could think that is a sensible response.
>>96507892So only maybe 10 people then? Our thread isn't exactly well populated.
>>96507861Youre simply not smart enough for this conversation buddy it is a bit too philosophical in nature for you that much is clear.>typo on the same level as literally not knowing english properlyGood cope lmao
>>96507805>>96507839it's not a replacement but you still get to do it tho. creatures dying still trigger death triggers
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>>96507861>>96507857>>96507846>>96507842>>96507831>>96507750>>96507914>>96507949Now kiss
>>96507918The bold and brave philosophy of "everything is troons." You are a sheep or "shiep" as you probably spell it
>>96508048>one of the most troon infested hobbies on the planet>it's not troons
>>96508048>everything is troonsIncorrect answer thank you for immediately confirming that you are indeed to dumb for this conversation.
>>96508075>UW versions of cards are troonsyou have a severe mental illness
>>96508048I don't think you live in a city because any LGS in a major US city generally has atleast 2-3 troons in the player population. WotC has been targeting the troon demographic hard for over a decade now.
>>96508195and this relates to UW versions of cards how?
Is there anything interesting to do with this deck?
>>96508277Seems like you just win the second you can untap with her if no one has a counterspell ready.
>>96508238I already explained how it relates and you cried disingenuously about everything being troons.
>>96505649>reliant on their commander, which is a good thing.Anon, its commander, not highlander. If you want to play highlander, go do that.
>>96508238The lolsorandom UB slop caters heavily to reddit troons
>>96508277If you like taking yuge turns that end with you miles ahead of everyone else or victorious yesSame as every other decent cost reduction commander (thinking of you, heliod the radiant dawn)
>>96508286Considering you called it "trannyism", that sounds like your argument was about troons, anon.
>>96508277Using Black Market Connections as a giga ramp spell. Personally I like Will more since lifegain is really well supported and it's easy to dump giant white and blue creatures onto the board or convert an untapped Will into a massive X spell. Both Rowan and Will are peak commander designs though.
>I don't want to suck cute troon femcock, just because I bring them up constantly doesn't mean I'm obsessed
Slapping new art on Spiderman cards and calling it magic is the same thing spiritually as slapping makeup and hormones on a guy and calling him a woman. This is irrefutable you are all bugchasers
>>96507619I'm a big fan of "complex" art like MC Escher's works so I really enjoyed MKM's impossible lands.
>>96508491>AAAA NO MORE UB WHERE ARE THE UW VERSIONS????>WotC makes UW versions>Some of the UW versions are actually fuckin' great>NOOOOOO TRANNIES!!!!!!!!!!what the fuck man, how mentally ill are you?
>>96508491I honestly wonder if you are some agent poster designed to do nothing but cause discord.>Slapping new art on Spiderman cards and calling it magic is the same thing spiritually as slapping makeup and hormones on a guy and calling him a woman. This is irrefutable you are all bugchasersSeriously, who the fuck thinks this up, what is wrong with you.
>>96508508Bro ODed on his first red pill and is now making it everyone else's problem. Retards can't manage their power levels.
>>96508491So every reprint is not magic and troonyism?
>>96506635>there's only one way to build every single commander ever released and if you deviate from this ONE ALLOWED BUILD then you're a stupid piece of shitcool story bro
>>96505664>picked up like a half dozen of Malakir Rebirth and Bala Ged Recovery on release for less than a dollar eachFeels good to have foresight. I got a good number of the MH3 MDFCs for cheap right after that set released too.
>>96508277>pain land>pain land>pain land + Rowan>pain land + tap Rowan (-4 cost to your spells)now use rituals draw and storm off, win
>>96508491What the fuck are you talking about? They don't even have the title thing underneath them to even mention spiderman.Also this is just an insane comparison to make. If your mind is going to compare any sort of change to trannies you might need to seek mental help for than they do.
bros I wanna build jin G progress tyrant as an artifacts deck but every time I look at it I hear a little voice whispering in my ear that extra turn chaining would be way betterwhat do?
>>96508491>Spiderman>bugchasers
>>96508507>>96508508You can cope all you want what I said is 100% correct. You are welcome to explain how its different.
>>96508605Build the cool version not the cancer nigger version
>>96508521No? Try to use your brain anon.>>96508587Most trannies dont carry their dead name around with them so I dont see why that matters.>insane comparisonNope. You have a man (spider man set) who is throwing on makeup (UW alchemy art) while not changing anything abiit the essence, and pretending pretending not UW.Anyone is welcome to actual argue against the logic here but I dont see it happening.
>>96508610Okay, Mr. Shitposter. I know you're trying to start something but I'll ask you this (given you're trying to put the onus on us and not on you to explain your own stance)How is it the same thing? How is a fictional piece of cardboard that is UW that is functionally identical to a UB card somehow related to men with mental illnesses in real life? This is seriously on the same level as saying Snow Swamps are the tranny version of Swamps because they are pretty much identical but there's some kind of dumb change.
>>96508620The UW skin does objectively fix two of the problems with the set.1: Having 30+ named variants of Spiderman is confusing. Having a bunch of literally whos from random existing Magic planes is a lot easier to differentiate 2: Cards with UW art/name are much easier for WotC to eventually reprint.That being said there are still several other problems with the set.
>>96508620what if my argument is just "this is a false analogy">You have a manthis is not a manthat's just it, it's not a person, it's not makeup, it's not a mental illne- ok maybe arena is a little bit of a mental illnessregardless, you don't have any logic, you have a mental knotpersonally I agree with >>96508644's points. it isn't a good set of cards. making them a whole reskinned set on arena is dumb and confusing. saying "this is just like trains" is dumb on the face of it and undermines any point you could possibly have, to the point where I'm starting to think you're false-flagging.
>>96508620>pretending pretending not UW>anon so genuinely mad about retarded shit he's fucking up his posts
I hate ordering a whole ass deck from like a dozen sellers, gives me anxiety that some of it will get lost.Already had one letter disappear recently.
>>96508637This has been explained multiple times im not repeating myself as clearly you are Just unable to grasp the concept.>>96508644>the hormones do objectively fix multiple problems with my bodySame energy same vibe for real.>>96508660You are not smart enough to talk to me please cease.>>96508670Not mad nor have I made any mistakes.
Is there a 5-color or 4-color deck that can be build in a fun way on a budget? Is background tribal good?
>he gave up after a single bit of pushbackfor shame, shitposter-kun.
>>96508808>Is there a 5-color or 4-color deck that can be build in a fun way on a budget?Yes, lots. Depends on what playstyle you're after
>>96508277no, the moment it untaps you pay any amount of life to any of the myriad effects than blast your asshole to the table
>>96508808>5 Color background TribalMy I recommend Cromat? An nigh-unkillable, pumpable threat with evasion, that can potentially remove other threats, sounds like a good idea, right?
>>96508806I apologize, I underestimated youyou're not pretending to be retarded, you're actually retarded pretending to be smart
>>96505649Then I'd just run 5 color good stuff exclusively
>>96508916>you're actually retarded pretending to be smartMany such cases!
>>96505649>save the formatThere's nothing wrong with Commander>tuck effectsHahhha have your (you), retard
>>96508808Karona Pillow Fort
I like the Spider-Man set.
>>96508808>Is background tribal good?It's funny with partners, but not good.
>>96507619I'm a John Avon simp when it comes to basics. His use of light is so damn good. Note: I know fucking nothing about art other than what I like.
>>96508916>I dont have a rebuttal but if I lie to myself I dont need toVery clever. Come back when you understand accidents and essence
>>96508974I'd probably enjoy a Genshin Impact set but I still acknowledge it would probably be shit.
>>96509024Wish granted.All the cards are drawn by the artists who made the Miku cards.
>>96508808I've tried WUBRG BG tribal and it's funny but keep in mind that it's kind of a voltron strat so you're at risk of getting hated out somewhat easy. It's a fun digital brew but I don't know if I would commit to it in paper ever.
>>96508974As someone who only cares about the words on the cards, not the art, lore, or characters, it's just ok. There are some cards I like and will probably use. I'm happy though that Arena has UW versions of the cards, so I'll probably be proxing those, save for this cool gal here, her UW actually looks ass enough for me to care.
>>96508077>"The thing I said isn't what I said actually so you're wrong and stupid"Go outside, I promise the trannies can't get you there but you will have to shower first if you don't want to catch a public indecency charge>>96508195I live in a densely populated liberal area, there's like a dozen trannies that frequent my lgs and nobody cares because they just play the game (unlike you)>>96508286That wasn't me btw and you mentioned trannies first, weakly defended your position by saying "it's trannies because it's trannies" more or less and then called me stupid when I made fun of you again, probably because your IQ is low
>>96509024>>96509045I guess it at least it's a fantasy setting with a large cast of characters and elemental-focused magic. Kinda on par with Avatar in terms of how easy it would be to adapt to MTG.
>>96509024>Furina>whenever a creature you control takes or heals damage, put a +1/+1 counter on itwhew
>>96509083If they make a Hu Tao card kinda in this style i'm dropping hundreds.
>>96509098Furina would probably be something that cares about life gain and life loss, like an Esper version of Betor.
>>96509080>the thing I said...Correct. You have a tenuous grasp on the English language and as a result misunderstood something very clear.>thats not meDoesnt change the fact that I have explained it multiple times. You are retarded.
>>96509054Are all the arena versions posted someone? I only saw the cosmic Spider-Man one or whatever. Im not a big Spider-Man/comics guy outside of the old movies but man if this set wasn't underwhelming af in terms of cards
>>96509138Here you go:https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena/through-the-omenpaths/card-image-gallery?cigfreshness=new-cards&cigset=OM1
>>96509128Show me the post where you ever so eloquently explain your position and how it's not just "this is bad and trannies because I say so" retard
>>96509148He won't because he believes the truths of it is self-evident and anyone who doesn't instantly get it is a moron. Why even bother engaging?
>>96509024don't even joke about it
Hu Tao, Funeral Parlor Director - 4RBLegendary Creature - HumanFirst Strike, MenacePay X life: Hu Tao gains +X/+0 until end of turn.If Hu Tao was blocked by two or more creatures this turn, you gain half of the life spent to activate her ability (rounded up).1/4
>>96509138So Arena is officially part of this general now, right? Good to know.Still haven't pulled this off in paper. Too hard against 3 opponents and it's very obvious what you want to do
hey so like is there any way in gruul to stop farwell? I'm even looking at color hate stuff, and I'm coming up short. I'm playing an elf deck and boy did I get btfo'd, there's not a single card in my deck that can do anything about it.
What we need is more UB and less UW.You really trust modern wotc with classic Llorwyn?
>>96509272i take it back I'm running Temur Sabertooth but that's the best solution I got.
>>96508995Naw that's goated
>>96509279This, while true, is incorrect.
>>96509272Other than picrel, not really. Farewell is notorious for being something most decks will fall apart to. Just accept that yours is one of them. If you're in Gruul and board wipes are a problem, keep cards in hand and focus on protecting your draw engines so you have ways to redeploy faster than your opponents after a wipe.
Printing basic land proxies with Adolf Hitler artwork rn.
>>96509054It is mediocre as a set. But I'd vastly rather use the spider-man versions over the arena stuff
>>96509310Man he sucked.
>>96509145Ty fren>>96509169I like to see how deep the delusions go. I'm sure he really believes he's epically owned me or whatever and I don't care because questioning the delusion will make him uncomfortable >>96509250Brawl is my preferred way to test commanders for playstyle and I wish every precon/bonus sheet commander got into arena
>>96509310This would fit really well in with early magic I like it a lot. I guess that makes sense right? A failed painter has a lot in common with a bunch of mildly talented dorks from the 90s.
>>96507038>The activated ability is a meme unless you have enough Deathtouch/high power creatures to take advantage.Well the point would be to force all creatures to block a 1/1 token so that everything else is unblocked. Screw death touch. If I activate that ability its because I want my stuff to all be unblockable
>>96509336Hey man for a homeless orphan teenager with no formal training or internet access he was pretty decent
>>96506402I played hellrider for a really long time in iroasI think its a pretty ok effect in weenie decks
>>96509310Shit that's a good idea. I should make some.
>>96509272Those are the worst anti boardwipe colors in general, best you can do is probably get as much value as you can before it resolves with cards like greater good, maybe phase out creatures with talon gates
>>96509347Yeah I was thinking that too, his paintings look strikingly similar to the really old Magic illustrations.
>>96509310The more I look at it the more I swear this is actually on a magic cardholy shit did one of my friends proxie hitler's art onto a card?
>>96509363GET THAT FUCKING SHIT BORDER OUT OF HERE!
>>96509371Please try to find out if that's really the case, that would be hilarious
>>96509377he put it on a tundra, he's going to send me a pic in a bit
>>96509383Holy kino, please deliver
>>96509225Probably would need to add an "as a sorcery" or "at the beginning of combat" clause to the Hatred effect. The second effect could just be "when Hu Tao is blocked, you gain half the life you lost this turn"
>>96509272can you sac your board and pull everything back from gy? can you shuffle gy into deck and at least have important pieces still accessible? can you pull off something bizarre like 10 clones of Riftsweeper?>>96509310ye olde opinion of hitler's artwork is "he's technically talented but the works themselves are lifeless">>96509349if you can win with Master Warcraft you can run both it and him. if you can win with Hellrider/Severina Raine, run all of them. He happens to do both.
>>96509390Yeah I realized that too after i posted it lol that effect can't be instant speed.
>>96509363which site did you use? I hate the one's in the op
>>96509396that's kinda funny cause I'd say he's technically a bit of a dumbass but full of lifeI mean look at those trees, its like they are mid-dance. But seriously can wotc please bring back this style, I'd stop bitching about UB, I promise.
I think I'm actually gonna make some Genshin cards and post them to /ccg/.
>>96509390How would you word that card exactly and would you change anything about it?I kinda wanna print it, it seems like a cool idea.
>>96509389he sent me a tinyurl to meatspinwhat a prick
>>96507619the land which suprised me the most recently is the pixel art swamp form 2023 in foil.the artwork really pops when in hand. too bad the other pixel lands arent as good.
>>96509272Gotta shit out lands because its 2025.
>>96507619We talk about the game constantlyIt's just not always strategy because, spoiler alert, this format is massively flawed. Combo is king. If you want to win you play combo. If you want to have fun, people ask why you aren't playing combo. There just isn't that much else to discuss. now my favorite basics are from invasion, great set, phenomenal basics. John Avon fucking loves spruce trees. >>96508995ah ya fucker, you took my image and we both pulled it from scryfall lol
>>96509415>that's kinda funny cause I'd say he's technically a bit of a dumbass but full of lifeNta but basically the longer you look at each of them the more off they start to feel imo. You'll start to notice little inconsistencies or things that just don't make sense. When you zoom out his compositions seem fine and often even palatable, but when you look closer at the details you can see where he struggled with the little details and flourishes like perspective and depth of field. I think that's where the uncanny/"soulless"/ "lifeless" common critique comes from, which is somewhat poetic considering the soulless and brutal political ideology he'd go on to pioneer. fascism/communism often gets shackled to brutalist architecture as representative of their plague on the human spirit, but I think Hitler's artistic expression is also fairly representative of the socialist disease >But seriously can wotc please bring back this style, I'd stop bitching about UB, I promise.I too am a little sick it the overly-rendered era of art and it sucks because it's here to say because it screams "production value" you can show to shareholders in ways that more traditional art does not.
>>96509443Get wrecked
>>96509404I just pasted it over a basic in paint. If you want to seriously make basics for MPC or something, it's usually better to just take a card from MPCfill itself and past the art you want into it since that way you have high resolution and proper formatting.Otherwise I use MSE. MSE has nice templates for fancy basics.
>>96509496>it screams "production value" you can show to shareholders in ways that more traditional art does not.I don't care if this is made up, I now believe it.
>>96509451Island is by far the best
>>96509526objectively wrong in my opinion
>>96507619It is 90% no games fags whining about having to see the wrong Scrimblo Brimblo on card art.Also: As I said
>>96509496This criticism is just pedantic midwittery refined through a thousand reddit posts.Perspective is difficult and takes a long time to get down right even today with access to infinite art resources from the internet, Hitler was some kid barely scraping by on the streets of vienna, self-teaching art with essentially no resources and later in life he would obviously become too occupied with other activities to refine his craft.To look at what is essentially an amateur hobbyist's creations and infer something about their character because their art is flawed is retarded, people say those things because they're already in line with what they think of the man anyway and most people aren't gonna bother contradicting them.
>>96509520It's not made up dude everyone wants everything to look shiny and sleek because it's easy to explain to crusty old investors why it's worth however much money they're giving you, it's just like why AAA is obsessed with graphical fidelity.
Didn't Gwen Stacy fuck Norman Osborne or something?No wonder she is a great goblin commander.
>>96509272Well, there's this and >>96509308
>>96509326>But I'd vastly rather use the spider-man versions over the arena stuffMay I ask why?
>>96509572I always thought AAA was obsessed with fidelity because that was the old paradigm and they are too stupid to move on.
>>96509632Because a character I grew up with in many animated shows, movies, and games is far more appealing than any fantasy setting to me. I really don't care for elves and wizards.
>>96509578nice. Added to maybeboard.
>>96509578Gruul decks don't run rocks and have a lot of basics because of land fetching, so they might only have two or three colourless sources. You are right to mention that card though, people sleep on it.>>96509668Just make sure you actually have the colourless sources to cast it.
>>96509664Also to add a lot of the arena art is clearly rushed and unfinished. And the way arena cards look in general are very unprofessional so I'd never use them as proxies. Someone needs to fire whoever does the graphic design for arena.
The only UB set that would make my dick wiggle at this point is Shin Megami Tensei. They've already exhausted most of the heavy hitters that would fit and a bunch of them that don't. Hopefully this Marvel shit will be over with fast.
Opinions on my tight-budget Horobi deck?
>>96509687I like to show my friend that loves SMT and hates mtg all of the SMT proxies.
>>96505649Kills budget decks entirely. Many many budget decks are built around their commander. You'd just ensure more generic staple slop where the commander isn't even cast.
'ate UB sloppa but he's calling to me. Very unique effect/build around strategy and he's the best doctor, tennant fans get the rope
>>96509721>and he's the best doctorThat is capaldiTruth nuke etc
>>96509721Proxy it as some Izzet Guildmaster
>>96509272Not reliably. It's one of the reasons why Farewell should be a game changer even though it's not actually that great. Johnny All-modes is my least favorite player at bracket 2.
>>96509721there's a few fun cards in the dr who setshoutout to The Flood Of Marsjust gotta proxy them with something that doesn't totally take me out of the experience and they're sweet
>>96509721If you want even more upkeeps, try Obeka.
>>96509573For some reason I don't see this in the UW gallery. Does anyone have the Arena/UW version of this?
>>96509769Don't think they did UW versions for non-standard cards
>>96509769it's not a mainset card
>>96509724Silence, zoomer; a gen Xer is speaking>>96509751What black upkeep enablers/payoffs are there? 9th is much easier to get out earlier to abuse his effect
>>96509558I'll pretend you're not just mad Im breaking down the creations and ideology of a failure you probably idolize because he orchestrated a genocide and entertain this. To get one thing out of the way, I am not saying and did not say that Hitler's art is bad because he was an evil man (which he was) or that I am judging his art based on his future actions. Obviously taste in art is subjective and the perception of the artist can warp perception of the art, but there are objectively proper and appealing practices and techniques in art and the understanding and application of those things is what separates the winners and the losers. Hitler was self taught and his work is mildly impressive for the time and place he was picking up his artistic skills with no formal education. Hitlers problem in art was that while he clearly understood the visual themes and composition of landscape art he did not understand how to refine the smallest details that creates that "the longer you look at it the worse it looks" feel his pieces tend to have. Afaik the finer details of Hitler's rejection from art school are lost to history but it's not exactly crazy to say that his stuff was likely far below what other applicants were producing in their pursuit of professional artistry at the time and he wasn't exactly a peach on a personal level even before the whole Nazi thing. Our creations, even at the most basic levels, reflect our subconscious. My point isn't that Hitler's art is evil because he was evil, my point is that even before his rise to power the art he made represents a focus on the bigger picture without an understanding of or ability to break down the small and important details creates an uncanny mimicry of life that is appropriately representative of the soulless ideology he championed, much in the same way that brutalist architecture does for fascism and communism alike.
>>96509778>Gen XerAnd I thought I was bad being here at age 40.
>>96509784you are gen x
>>96507619>This might be the worst AND fastest moving thread on /tg/Welcome to 4chan, newfag. Every board, thread or general which is super fast is supershit. Enjoy your stay.
>>96509845They're usually fast because so much shitposting and trolling caps the threads fast.
Re: the anon talking about genshit before I don't play but I was gonna say I would want a Baizhu commander but I guess we got one in the arena set
>>96509793Nah dude, millenials are in their 40s, now. Gen X is like 50+
>>96510061millennials can be in their early 30s
>>96510061if you were born in 1990 you are only 35. is math really that hard for you?
>>96510061the years for the generations all float by like 5 in either direction based on where you're getting your definition from.
>>96510161Millennials can be born before 1990, you dipshit.
>>96510216and afteryou colossal moron
>>96510179>with the generation typically being defined as people born from 1981 to 1996is what i use. he could have said 'MOST millennials are in their 40s now', and it would have been acceptable, but the statement 'millennials are in their 40s' is a definitive statement, when it's not true - they can be as low as 29.
>>96510074millennial here, I'm 39, turning 40 in November. "can be" and "are" are two different things
I just booted up Master Duel and my opponent took so long on his first turn that i completed a 15 minute youtube video and he still wasn't done (idk how some people never run out of time??).Anyway i'm glad to be maining Magic now.