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Previous Thread: >>96499472

Kitchen Table Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?

Depends. I'll ask them what they want to play and adjust my deck to that power level. Anywhere from a low 3 to mid 4.
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>>96505571
That green chick from homelands that cant be blasted by targeted spells is pretty rad
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>>96505571
I don't have bros
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
I used to lead with 3rd Doc / Sarah
Now I lead with Zurgod. But Im still revamping zurgo so tbd
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
Are we having fun or playing powerful/competitive decks? Yarok attractions if fun, Shroofus if competitive
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>Stamina Regeneration Field
>2WW
>Enchantment
>You may activate abilities of creatures you control any number of times each turn.
>Each triggered ability you control is counted as the first time the ability triggers each turn.
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>>96505630
>2WWUR
Is the balanced cost for this.
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Wait guys. Bros. Here me out. I know how to save the format. Bring back tuck effects for commanders.

>Hinder
>Hallowed Burial

It will help revitalized the format by not having so many decks be centered and reliant on their commander, which is a good thing.
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Every time I try to build this jolly fuck I come out with no deck and a headache. Anyone got cool lists for him I can steal ideas from?
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>costs like 8 euro
Holy shit fuck wizards for never reprinting some staple uncommons for literally no reason
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>>96505659
>137 cards where the color identity ≤ GUW and it’s legal in Commander and the card types include “golem”
Seems pretty straightforward to me. Include the ETB/LTB ones to double up on their stuff because you get a copy when they die
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>try to make a low-power deck
>finish
>ah this can make it better
>oh this card is a nice upgrade
>this helps my combo
>this speeds it up a bit
>this covers my weakness
>now it's too strong
>rip it up and start from the beginning
again how do I stop
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>>96505664
That one's gonna be a pain to see a reprint of too, since it's MDFC AND fuckin' tied to a specific plane. We basically have no chance of seeing it reprinted in any meaningful capacity unless they go back to zendikar or if it makes it into a masters set.
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UB is at its best when it's a setting that doesn't fit mtg's aesthetic.

What's the point of wanting more sets that are LOTR-lite when mtg planes are already LOTR-lite? Shouldn't UB planes feel distinct? Shouldn't all planes feel distinct?

Then again mtg's aesthetic is cowboys piloting racecars and spaceships now so maybe LOTR doesn't fit the mtg aesthetic at this point.
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
Depends how strong they of a deck they're using:
Pre-con level Jund Aristocrats
Izzet Aggo
Azorius Pillowfort
Rakdos Storm
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>>96505731
>low-powered deck
>my combo
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>>96505754
>low power means you can't win the game
okay retard
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>>96505754
It could potentially be a 5 card rube goldberg jankmachine that wins him the game. Not every combo is a 2-3 piece "Win the game" button.
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>>96505677
The problem isn't that I don't know the synergies it's that there's so many to decide between and I just wind up doing nothing
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
Probably whatever I brewed up most recently to see how it does, or something that I know is on-par with something one of my bros wants to play. Or sometimes, I'll just roll at random to select one off my archidekt and use that.
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>>96505731
>low power deck
>combo
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>>96505769
>no combo
>no win>
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yes
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Standings vs my wife's ahrabo deck
Dimir: 1-0
Rakdos: 0-1
Gruul: 1-1
Selesnya: 1-0
Azorious: 0-1
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>>96505779
You know it's not
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>>96505754
Hey man that's what happens when spike and timmy find johnny's little hideout of a format.
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so anyways i crack defense of the heart...
and i'm going to play...
marauding raptor and polyraptor
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>>96505649
>which is a good thing
reddit speak.
kys søyfag
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>>96505649
Getting rid of tuck was the beginning of the end and we all knew it at the time.
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>2 of my 3 games tonight had the same guy who fucking sulks and gets moody whenever someone DARES counter his game-winning spells
sorry for not letting you get infinite creatures guess I'm the asshole
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>>96505887
Ah yes, the classic Ajani's Chosen line.
At least this game didn't end with a scepter combo
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>>96505909
I find it funny how many people don't realize edh is the youtubepoop format.
Congrats wotc, you saw people enjoying it and instead of fixing your actual formats you took them behind the shed and capped em like old yeller. You took a shitpost and made it your premier format.
This guy belongs in a different format but gets stuck here.
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>>96505571
>you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
Been wanting to play my Cruelclaw deck again. Everyone loves free dragons.
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>>96505735
Can they do MDFCs on a bonus sheet if the set already has them?
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>>96505944
I mean you're not wrong. He cut his teeth on 60 card formats, we used to play modern back when people actually played paper modern at our lgs.

But he's also the sorta guy that fucking REE's when he sees someone play blue even in 60 card formats.
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>>96505970
hopefully not. MDFCs were a mistake.
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>>96505976
Fuckin knew it
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>>96505944
Standard still lives, in arena. Legacy is fucked forever because the stupid reserve list policy, despite being the best constructed format. Modern is fucked due to constant power creep in every set. EDH is now the best eternal format.
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>>96505992
arena is not MtG, doesn't matter how you spin it.
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>>96505992
Honestly mh3 did more to fuck legacy than the RL ever did
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>>96505991
If standard and modern weren't turbo aids and enough people for a tournament actually showed up I'd be playing them. Our LGS stopped hosting modern after months of 3-7 people showing up.

So here we are, competitive players get to play "cedh"
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>>96505998
You're 40 years old
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>>96506035
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>>96506042
nta, but Arena has a sketchy-ass shuffler, along with a hidden ELO system, and card weighing to affect match-making.
As someone who appreciates the presentation of MTG:A, I can understand not liking it, and rejecting it on a conceptual level. Also, despite the automation of the client, the concept of a token cap is mad gay
also also, the limited card pool really pisses me off.
oh, don't even get me started in alchemy
...actually, I think I really hate Arena.
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>>96506042
>not true random shuffler
>numerous bugs for how cards interact
>doesn't have all the cards
it's not trve magic
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>>96506053
he cute
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>>96506058
>>96506061
The shuffled thing is a myth btw, it had issues at launch but the guy who exposed those issues with a large scale study later came out and said they fixed it and that draws are within statistical expectation now.
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>>96506086
ok
>numerous bugs for how cards interact
>doesn't have all the cards
still not trve magic
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>>96506058
The token cap is the only thing on that list I'll defend. Since it's almost certainly a programming limitation. They almost certainly could fix it, but it's likely more trouble than it's worth
Alchemy is an abomination though and will literally never cease to piss me off. It should've been a format that they dump test cards into to see how they interact and can be tweaked on the fly before going to print. But instead of utilizing the digital nature for the overall betterment of the game, the used it to make a parasitic format that's unplayable outside of arena and will cease to exist when the servers go down.
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>>96506093
I think most bugs are rather minor issues but yeah the card selection sucks.
Can't believe they just skipped Innistrad Remastered, that set has so many awesome cards.
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>>96506096
I hate that Brawl has alchemy cards in it and there's no other commander format
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>>96506096
>Need to explicitly state a 'Game' to be 'Paper' when searching cards on scryfall, because it can contaminate search results with dogshit fake cards brewed by retards if I don't
VERY cool
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>>96506086
The fact that it had "issues" at launch is still a black mark against them. Could they be unintentional? Definitely. But I just flat out wouldn't trust a company like Hasbro to have a system like that be an accident. The only reason it's gone is cause they got called out for it.
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>>96506058
>Arena has a sketchy-ass shuffler
Officially only in best of one.
>along with a hidden ELO system
Can't speak to this one.
>and card weighing to affect match-making.
Officially only in Brawl.

Still better than trying to play on Spreadsheet the Gathering.
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>>96505659
It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.

>>96505677
I am working on a build that focuses on the golem support and making 1/1 creatures support but oddly enough when I look at what other decks do most people seem to ignore that. Lot of other decks go with food support. It's tough trying to mix that idea with golems but boy I am trying.
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>>96506109
Brawl's another format that will die immediately upon arena's death. Or rather, go back to being dead, since there was a bit of time where it WAS dead before they reanimated that cadaver to have a commander-like in arena.
It will never not be funny that wizards durdled so fucking hard with Arena's development and rollout, that they accidentally managed to fully kill standard in that time.
>>96506111
Unironically scryfall should just default to not having those show up in search results.
Planechase and the like don't fucking show up by default, why the hell should alchemy?
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What is the best tech for this bad boy? I want to build him as chaos stax.
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>>96506027
Legacy will always have a tiny player base due to RL price capping new players out
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>>96506154
Probably the usual trigger doubling stuff, alongside other cards that reward people attacking your opponents
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>>96505659
This guy feels like he'd be decently easy to make a list from. Good amount of enter the battle creatures and some sacrifice outlets to enable doubling up on things. Then some of the good splicers to buff the golems. What about the deck usually trips you up? I remember considering him a while back as well but just never got around to it.
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>>96505571
I usually like to start with whatever deck I was tinkering with throughout the week leading up to game night. Get an idea on how the stuff I've been considering and put in works and what I still think needs work on. The last couple weeks I've been working on Six so it would probably be him. Then as the night goes on I'll either keep with that deck or move around depending on the vibe of the table.
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>>96505659
This guy likes ETBs
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?
My Jund dragons deck, it's fun and I like how ridiculous it's deckbox is. I need to get a proxy made of my general Vaevictis as Trogdor the Burninator one of these days.
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>>96506154
Anything that gives creatures Shadow.
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>>96505649
This is dumb and would have the opposite effect. People would just include more protection and tutors
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>>96505649
Tuck has always been retarded. here is your (you) you petulant tardlet
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>>96505649
Yes I agree we need more blue farms in the wild.
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>>96505571
>TQ: you are about to sit down with the bros for game one of edh night, what deck are you playing?

Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls [Group Slug] - Deck to keep the games fast later in the night.

The Mycotyrant [Token+Self Mill] - Pet deck that I always bring. Love me mushroom man.

Raffine, Scheming Seer [Reanimator] - Something relatively recent I've been working on, and so keen to test it out.

The Locust God [Wheels/Token] - for when people start ramping up into spicier decks.

Imotekh the Stormlord [Necron Precon] - I always keep this on hand in case a newbie joins and wants to play with the precon they just picker up.
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>>96506058
I appreciate that arena exists for me to get some live testing with new decks I'm considering in paper against real opponents quickly. Built this on Arena when it first came out and quickly discovered it's actually mad gay and annoying.
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Anons, I am considering putting this card on my Saruman deck with a bunch of dumb big spells. Please tell me it is a bad idea or I might do it.
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>>96506354
Do it.
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honest opinions on this card?
I cant tell if this is a potential game winner and reasonable value generator or am I memeing myself
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>>96506402
you are totally memeing yourself, there are SO many better ways to generate wins and value out of a wide board than this
But it's not always wrong to meme
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>>96506402
I used it in my dune brood nephilim deck to some success. I don't know if I would play it anywhere else though it's a really really shit card when you're behind.
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>>96506464
Oh shit I did that too.
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>>96506470
My nigga
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>new bloomburrow flavored cards in arena
>can't be printed because of spider-man
Thanks, Marvel/Disney. I'd rather use Treat Trolley for Food themed deck.
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>>96506402
He looks like he'd be decently versatile depending on your deck. I had him in my Isshin. The damage and removal he provides depending on the deck look like they'd be great. Just haven't played the deck enough to actually see it play out though.
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>>96506546
>HOTDOGS - ON YOUR RIGHT - COMING UP!
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>>96506546
that art looks amazing
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>>96506549
no one thinks your joke ai thing is funny, stop pushing it
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>>96506546
>whitewashes your card
Nothing personnel, kid.
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>>96506562
it's funny because it's retarded and accurate
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>>96506546
I'll be honest, I never really minded Universes Beyond cards or their art, usually anyway, but seeing all this Omen Path Universes Within versions kind of makes me wish we had those as options in paper too. Especially for things like Doctor Who and this set. That these all visit various planes for their inspiration is great and feels like it would have made a good "around the magic universes" set where they just go around all the planes for a couple of cards. The theming of making some of the villains arena pit fighters is cool way to work around some of the limitations.
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>>96506565
right one fits a lot better with the effect
-Repair- should be something that returns to the battlefield, not to your hand
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>>96506571
I like how this one card mindbroke you, as if he haven't had truly awful flavor text before in the past, this ONE card lives your head rent free.
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>>96506573
it either should've been about some simic mutants escaping or some new capenna boxing/wrestling thing
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>>96506571
>Doesn't get the joke of unexpected things interrupting man
>During a death race
>That literally had driving sharks you need to dodge
The things that trigger some people...
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>>96506586
>some new capenna boxing/wrestling thing
There's a few cards that are in what looks to be Capenna and even a few with the boxing fight club theme, but they didn't really fully commit to making it a full in set theme like they should have. It would have been an clean way to make both heroes and villains all work by being wrestlers for entertainment and money in Capenna. I guess there hasn't been many spiders in Capenna so they didn't commit to the bit?
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>>96506546
So is there any way to get high quality rips of the art from Arena? Usually the art from the game looks weirdly unfocused and has low quality shots. I would have really liked to have some of these as cards with these arts.
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>>96506587
okay that dude on the left absolutely does not look like he can wrestle a bear
why isn't he like a 0/2 or so
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>>96506571
Anon, the thing is that yours doesn't actually make sense. This is actually depicting someone trying to speak and being interrupted by the need to call out a sudden danger before resuming their train of thought. Are you stupid?
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>>96506557
>what happened
Unironically fursecution. The great civil war on nerd culture.
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>>96505677
>the golem buff he provides is supposedly the interesting part
>meanwhile he just makes his own golems
are you fuggan stupid? Would be much better to look for ETBs and your typical blink package. I don't even wanna bother what kind of stank Golems do when they come down
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>>96505859
>1v1 edh
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once again posting about how WOTC are monsters for making a spiderman card the first bit of moebius art we get in the game instead of an frazetta-style secret lair.
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>>96506640
I think brawl is a good format
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>>96506640
>1v1 edh with your wife
sovl, unironically the way garfield intended
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>>96506607
Oof
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>>96506575
>he never had a handyman over to fix something only for him to just hand over a blueprint schematic of the broken thing
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>>96506618
But he can kill morbius in an epic duel to death
can that other anon explain again how morbius is actually super significant because he was in a 25-35 year old cartoon show?
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>>96506680
that statline means Morbius has a harder time kiling Guy in Chair than vice versa lole
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>>96506546
Another Bloomburrow themed card.
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>>96506702
b-but... it's morbin time
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>>96506709
bit uncanny how the silhouette and positioning of the characters in action match, down to Venoms left claw, including the taxi/branch the mouse stands on
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Watching this game turn into licensed IP slop has been like watching your game server turn into tranny central. You hang youre head in despair, shed a singular, saltiest tear ever shed, and then move on and never look back. For a long while, we had something beautiful going, that transcended its greedy corporate origins, and we let it all slip away. For shame.
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>>96506752
>slop
>tranny
opinion already discarded, please try again
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>>96506755
not an argument
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>>96506757
>doesn't know what an argument is
Please try again
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>>96506752
>and then move on and never look back.
So why are you still here? Seems to me you're not moving on at all.
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>>96506764
>expecting anything from mr buzzwordman
morbilicious
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Comics are so gay.
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>>96506795
ZOOMER DETECTED
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JUST A REMINDER: the reason wotc has started to put robots, aliens, race cars, and whatever else into magic lore has one sole reason and it isn't because the designers think the aesthetic should evolve. the reason for it is that one of the main complaints about universes beyond from the very beginning was "this property does not fit with magic's aesthetic". 40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vibe. lord of the rings was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. final fantasy was accepted because it fit the aesthetic/vibe. spongebob, stranger things, street fighter, walking dead, etc. were all complained about because the were major breaks in the aesthetic. by branching out what the magic IP's aesthetic is with universes within, the wider array of outside IPs that can be used for universes beyond can be used with minimal complaint from the consumer base. oh, you are going to complain about spock or captain kirk on a card or the enterprise as a vehicle? but it already fits the aesthetic! look, we have edge of eternities to show you that sstar trek DOES fit the aesthetics of mtg!
i have no qualms with the expanding aesthetics of magic except for the fact that it was done for the most cynical, money grubbing reason.
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>>96506842
k
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>Wall between arena and paper gets thinner
>Cage rattling
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>>96506842
>40K was accepted because it mostly fit the aesthetic/vib
No
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>>96506842
k
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>>96506842
not any of the fags shitting on you, but I just want you to know I appreciate your passion for magic even if I don't 100% agree with the premise of your position. Thank you for trying to actually drum up conversation and not just posting "SHOW DECKS" for the 10,000th time.
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>>96506842
finally a shizo post i can get down with
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>>96506865
He cute
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>>96506865
>mechanic that literally doesn't exist in paper
sorry retardo
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>>96506896
nta but of all the alchemy mechanics conjure is one of the most likely to get printed
And why? because it means being able to sell EVEN MORE COPIES of cards
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>>96506896
https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg?si=2dV7-fI6_37YqVyR
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>>96505659
theft and sac
my favorite is tempting licid+tolarian entrancer
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>>96506903
>acorn
Yes, I'm sure. Considering this is just an expensive proxy of an Arena card.
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>>96506154
the goading auras, anything deathtouch, maha effectively gives everything deathtouch
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>>96506910
Data showed it was popular enough to physically print and data will convince wotc to let the alchemy cards into EDH in the end. You can only run from the truth for so long.
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>>96506917
>print a bunch of fake cards that no one is allowed to use
>make one from arena who references all of said fake cards to encourage you to buy them
yeah and those 1,000 dollar fake black lotuses and moxes are gonna become legal too, right? neck yoself before you wreck yoself my nigra
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>>96506923
They already sold those too
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>>96506872
i'm right.
>>96506866
except it was. there were still people who complained about it, for sure. but the overwhelming response for 40K, the first full set/product (as in no a secret lair or alt art treatment like godzilla), was that it could have been much worse and at least they did it with something that has a semi-similar aesthetic and is probably something that a lot of players are already into (seeing as a lot of tcg players are also tabletop gamers as well). sure, it is more sci-fi than magic had really been at that point, but they were already starting to push the boundaries with neon dynasty cyberpunk aesthetics (probably also testing the waters there because they already had an idea from market research surveys about how players feel about UB aesthetics clashing with UW aesthetics and wanted to test with NEO to see how players would respond to a shift in magic's aesthetics that allow for a broader range of IPs that won't clash with that aesthetic).
>>96506882
there has always been an expanding and shifting sense of what "should" be allowed in the creative team's eyes, but the extent that i am talking about is what allowed a cheerleader in sneakers and CRT screens to show up on duskmourne.
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>>96506402
Brutal in an Isshin wide aggro deck. Meh in anything else. The activated ability is a meme unless you have enough Deathtouch/high power creatures to take advantage.

Overall, a thorough B-tier card in the right deck.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96506903
>reprinting the power nine
>ever

Even if they were token cards, they would never do that though the conjure mechanic from Alchemy may someday make it's way to paper
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>>96506842
This but unironically. Murders was clearly done to make the clue crossover easier to digest, and it worked.
I have to wonder if aetherdrift had a mad max crossover in the works that just fell through.
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>>96506164
When legacy fired in my area I played with shocks
As long as some guy wasn't playing burn it didnt matter much
Also most LGSs ive seen allow 6-8 proxies
The format was incredible before mh3, now its just modern but more
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>>96506326
>Built this on Arena
What did he mean by this?
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>>96506412
So basically its the perfect edh card? I agree.
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>>96506562
I laughed the first few times
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>>96506643
Thats zombie spiderman
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>>96506752
I unironically agree, but instead of quitting I continue to play with the cards I have. Ive not purchased anything since 2022. When my collection runs its course, then ill quit
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>>96506842
This hardly even needs to be said. Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.
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>>96506326
pretty kitty
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>>96507206
>Its so obviously true except the 40k bit.
what is wrong about the 40k bit? that it mostly fits the vibe of mtg or that players were more okay with it than walking dead?
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>>96507194
it's capeshit and that is what i care about. they should have given me some shit from the incal or some other work of moebius'. i don't want to see spiderman or zombie spiderman or whatever the fuck. and i want more than one card and i don't want that card to be goddamn ponder.
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>go to LGS for a game or three of commander
>LGS immediately begins ranting about how if anyone has proxies they're getting banned from the store
Now I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuff, but why the fuck is this such a big deal? Do people actually pride themselves in dumping thousands of dollars on "official" cardboard? They didn't notice my shit either.
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>>96507217
It clashes severely on an aesthetic front and that fucking frame is an atrocity.
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>>96507247
>things that didn't happen
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>>96507247
My lgs had a no swearing policy and threatened to ban people. Nerds have no spine though lol
A year later nobody has been banned and theres a fuck fuck fuck fuck cancer poster hanging on the wall lmao
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>>96507277
Don't know what to tell you. My LGS has the following rules for EDH:
>no infinite combos
>no brackets, but players are strongly encouraged to not come in thinking it's cedh
>no proxies
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>>96506120
>It is very frustrating the build because the card is so fun there are so many different ways to build it.
Exactly, I keep getting stuck trying to figure out how much of any one thing to do. I think I just need to cut the major artifact synergies and focus on etb combos
>>96506169
I think the only splicer I actually want is the indestructible one but I guess the trampler would be good.
>>96506907
Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like that
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>>96506120
>newfag is frustrated that his deck isnt paint by numbers
This is a johnny format get used to it
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>>96507247
I can only assume its because they are afraid of WOTC. There is a real of no proxies in sanctioned events, so if it was a paid commander night they might be afraid of getting in trouble.
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>>96507255
>It clashes severely on an aesthetic front
demons and mechanical horrors don't really clash with magic's aesthetics. again, nowhere near the level that downtown modern manhattan does. is 40K the exact aesthetic of magic? no. is it close enough in line that it does not offend the sensibilities of people? for sure. the set's reaver titans and dreadnoughts also didn't look out of place when it released a month before brothers war with all of its mechanical monstrosities everywhere.
>that fucking frame is an atrocity.
i like UB frames more than the regular frame.
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>>96507507
>demons
>mechanical horror
>leaves out literally everything else
You cant pick and choose, its all a package deal.
The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.
People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtg
Also the power level was more usable than other ub sets.
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Just give me actual warhammer fantasy already. The aesthetic fits and we would get a lot of tribal support to dwarfs, elves, rats, and various undead factions. There's more than enough to easily make a full set, unlike spiderman which clearly struggled to fill out its extra slots.
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https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-09-25-yeva/?cb=1757342166

I made this yeva deck using EDH rec, cards I remember from back in the day, and also other tappedout lists.

It was originally weaker. I was aiming for around 50-60 USD but it comes out to over 100 which is still alright I suppose. Here are some questions I have
>I have lots of ramp spells and mana elves. Are they redundant or do I need even more?
>do I need more card draw?
>are my finishers (overrun effects) sufficient? I added Garruk for and extra overrun
>is bow of nylea enough recursion?
>What are my high-priority tutor targets with fauna shaman, woodland bellower and Mwonvuli beast tracker?
>Do I need more artifact and enchantment hate?
>How do I protect from/mitigate/play around wrath effects?

I'm proxxying the sol ring cause it's ridiculous how impossible they are to get when you can own one copy and resleeve it every time you play a different deck. I don't even own a copy, just a rules card with a neon green sticky note on it. even after dozens of reprints people buy a new copy for each of their 15 decks. Meanwhile 14 of them are sitting in the deck box doing nothing at any given time. You can only play 1 deck at a time!!!

I have also chosen to not put in seedborn muse. It's expensive and seems too strong, almost unfun for everyone else. I'm afraid of the deck being too strong since Yeva is really strong and versatile. But I also fear that the one-dimensional strategy of mono green stomp can get kneecapped by designed-for-commander fuckery cards and control.
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>>96507553
>you can't pick and choose
Armored humans/knights, genetically modified warriors, huge war machines, demons, and mechanical horror, then. Still works great since we have Phyrexia and Mirrodin.
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>>96507584
>conveniently leaves out the most iconic thing about the setting
Well i guess this conversation is over
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Somebody once told me that nobody ITT actually talks about the game. I thought they were just joking or being hyperbolice but I'm starting to see that's the case. This might be the worst AND fastest moving thread on /tg/ next to the 40k general

anyway do you guys have any favorite pieces of basic land art?
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>>96507553
>leaves out literally everything else
oh, like tyranids? because magic doesn't have beasts and bug monsters either, right? space marines? they look like big armoured dudes, which magic has. the biggest departures to the aesthetic that 40K had were guns and spaceships.
>People bought the 40k set because it was 40k themed not because it worked well with mtg
you misunderstand the argument. it isn't that people bought it *because* it fit aesthetically, it is that enfranchised players were not as repulsed by an outside IP as they were things like jurassic park and spongebob. 40k, lotr, and FF were more well received by naysayers than stranger things, walking dead, transformers, etc. because the aesthetic departure of the former listed IPs is a lot less than the departure of the latter listed IPs. if you are denying that there has not been a very vocal point made over the years about what outside IP makes a good 'fit' for mtg (usually some form of sword & sorcery type thing or some IP that spun out off a riff on D&D), you are just telling me that you aren't very in tune with what anyone is saying. the point has been made ad nauseum that something like 40K is a better fit for mtg than something like spiderman.
>The closest thing mtg has to 40k is the brother war and that was an apocalyptic event, not standard fare.
brothers war released a month after the 40K decks, making it seem a lot less out of place. plus, all the individual elements described can be found spread across many planes, but the main plane (dominaria) has enough 40K parallels to make the aesthetic not seem out of place. but then factor in shit from innistrad and kaladesh and anything to do with the eldrazi and you get enough to make up the difference.
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>>96507611
what is, in your mind, the most iconic thing about the setting?
>space marines
genetically modified warriors are in mtg and ravnican giants are about the size/build of a space marine.
>the warp
blind eternities and the eldrazi
>god emperor
yawgmoth
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>>96507611
We get it you hate big pauldrons
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>>96507619
Funnily enough, you posted my favorite mtg basic art. The way the 4 mountains fit together and the beautiful OG Kamigawa aesthetic kills me. I actually have a set of them, but I considered if I ever do mono-red, splitting my lands evenly between them so I can lay them out like that.
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>>96507507
If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasy
But they dont
They care about money so they did 40k
>the ub frame
Ub frames are not universal, the 40k one is pretty bad
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>>96507619
Posting john avon is cheating, he is a god of landscape art. I really REALLY hope the new lorwyn lands don't suck.
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>>96507567
I feel like the thing with this commander is you want to be able to hold up mana to run creatures that interact when they enter or are cast when it's convenient. Also what are you using cards like ghalta for besides being big? How are you leveraging the unique thing your commander does to build a deck that's gonna feel new and fresh for you?
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If YOU could make a 4 color commander, anon, what would it be?
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>>96507626
>>96507634
The bolter you actual retards
The automatic handheld rocket launcher
Nobody sees a space marine and goes
>oh he must be genetically altered
They see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set. No contest its better than fallout or spoodermin but i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.
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>>96507659
>If they cared about wh fitting they woulda done wh fantasy
that is also not the claim that was made. your reading comprehension is abysmal. i am not even making complex claims or obfuscating my point. i have been very plain when getting my point across.
>Ub frames are not universal
yes they are. since 40K, they have used one frame for anything that isn't alt art/booster fun bullshit.
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>>96507695
I wouldn't 4c historically has been a massive problem for all highlander formats, not just edh. Creating more would not benefit the format.
You know what? Ban partners and we can talk.
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>>96506553
No it doesnt lmao it looks passable (which is what it is, a tranny card passing as mtg)
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>>96506573
This is such a bad card its hilarious
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If I want to be an annoying little shit with Slivers, which Sliver should be my commander? I've got everyone but Queen (Legion, Hivelord, Overlord, Gravemother, First). Overlord seemed good to me, since he can ftutor out all other Slivers with his ability.
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>>96507349
>Do I get to make copies of the stolen creatures when I sac them? Ok didn't know it worked like that
Yes, it says when a creature you control dies.
You don't need to own it.
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>>96505677
TRIBAL BRAIN LMAO HOLY FUCK THIS IS RETARDED HE MAKES EVERYTHING INTO A GOLEM YOU MORON AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
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>>96507247
>Now I'm not sure if they meant big anime titties AI proxies or bootleg stuff
Neither are real cards, and thus the point is moot.
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>dogshit set
>now I have to look at it twice because people wanna pretend they magically love it when it transitions StM
No conviction and stop posting cards that have already been posted this isnt arena just shitting up the thread
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>>96507231
>Incal
Kino, just came back from reading Metabarons. Not Moebius, but same writer.
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>>96507702
>The bolter you actual retards
the bolter is not more iconic than the space marine itself. a specific gun is not the most iconic thing.
>They see a a dude with a gun, its a sci-fi set.
guns have existed in magic before AND i mentioned that guns and being in space were the only real big departures of the aesthetics. YES it is sci-fi, NO it is not entirely incompatible. magic also has a bunch of sci-fi elements like cyborgs, automatons, genetic alterations, and more. the whole point is not that 40K is exactly the same as mtg, the point is that 40K is close enough that it was far less offensive of a departure than many crossovers. the point is that mtg is expanding the IPs aesthetic sensibilities in an attempt to curb UB naysayers who do so under the banner of "it ruins the aesthetic sensibilities of the game".
you're such an autistic pedant that you literally can't understand what is being said.
>i wouldnt put it next to lotr or ff.
FF is also scifi and has guns/gun swords. mtg is actually closer to 40K than lotr.
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>>96506842
I think AtLA fit
Literally they should just stick with fantasy, there's no shortage of big fantasy franchises
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>>96507709
>im not obfuscating
>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspects
>ub frames
I guess so, looking at it closer
The 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was something
Is it the foil treatment? I guess it could be the art clashing too.
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I'm fine with UB personally
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Sex with goblins
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Literally NO UB lore belongs in magic. Nothing fits. FF didnt fit, Dr Who doesn't fit, 40k doesnt fit, lotr doesnt fit nothing fits because we all KNOW these are separate IPs and separate lore. We just lied to ourselves but deep down everyone knows nothing but magic (despite your opinions on its lore and aesthetics) fit in magic. Everything else is a stretch from the get go.
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>>96506402
He's fine, he'd probably see more play if he wasnt locked to mardu
>>96506652
Unironcally it just needs a better ban list
>>96506865
He would be simic in paper, the only reason he isn't in arena is because merfolk are simic on ixalan and the cats are selesnya
>>96507619
This gen is full of troon obsessed weirdos who don't play the game and just want to be mad. In terms of lands I really liked the full art seasonal lands from Bloomburrow
>>96507721
Case and point btw
>>96507737
>Yes, it says when a creature you control dies.
I assumed needing to exile it meant I would need to control it in my graveyard for the ability to resolve
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>>96507798
>Exile it instead
It never goes to the graveyard when his ability triggers
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>>96507619
Loved the stained glass lands from Dominaria United nothing beat them yet imo
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>>96507798
>case and point
Its case in point you mouthbreathing dumb fuck. And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism. That post is talking about the game by the way loterally as much as yours.
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>>96507805
Ah shit do I miss dies triggers then or no? My understanding was the creature dies, Brenard triggers, and then I get to exile the card as it's hitting the grave
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>>96507831
>slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism.
So every land in the game especially snow lands are trannies?
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>>96507839
Depends on the wording of the effect. Some will put them into exile instead, in that case they never hit the graveyard. Others will say when a card is put into your graveyard do..... those will trigger him.
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>>96507775
>except when I turn a blind eye to every thing scifi in the setting and focus entirely on the fantasy aspects
i never claimed it wasn't sci fi. i even brought up "guns and spaceships" specifically as the biggest departures to magic's aesthetics. and i am not obfuscating the point because i stated it very clearly multiple times that despite the differences to magic's aesthetics, 40K was less offensive to enfranchised players than some of the other UB products that have come out. i never claimed that it was a PERFECT 1:1 fit, just that they are close enough that there were less complaints than if the first UB commander deck had been something like the simpsons.
>The 40k cards stick out like such a sore thumb in any decklist i assumed there was something
you are remembering your initial reaction to a new frame more than anything. when 40K came out, they were the only UB cards with the frame, which made them stick out. you remember that and the memory alters your perception despite the frame being the same other UB products.
>>96507787
i am talking about aesthetics and vibes, not actual lore.
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>>96507846
>>96506842
Final Fantasy was called UB slop what do you mean it was accepted? People just stopped talking about it because of Spiderman.
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>>96507831
Shit I fucked up a phrase that totally makes you sound less deranged and obsessed
>And slapping a different coat of makeup on something and calling it something else IS trannyism.
>"everything is literally the most recent thing that I hate"
Oh wait
>literally
Haha it's literally spelled "literally" you retard
>>96507842
Snow lands are white face
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>>96507857
>Final Fantasy was called UB slop
by literally who? this thread? r/freemagic? yeah wow like 100 people at most.
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>>96507872
yes we're going by these threads unless you want to go by a youtubers opinion.
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>>96507842
No that makes absolutely zero sense and only an illogical moron could think that is a sensible response.
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>>96507892
So only maybe 10 people then? Our thread isn't exactly well populated.
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>>96507861
Youre simply not smart enough for this conversation buddy it is a bit too philosophical in nature for you that much is clear.
>typo on the same level as literally not knowing english properly
Good cope lmao
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>>96507805
>>96507839
it's not a replacement but you still get to do it tho. creatures dying still trigger death triggers
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>>96507914
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>>96507861
>>96507857
>>96507846
>>96507842
>>96507831
>>96507750
>>96507914
>>96507949
Now kiss
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>>96507918
The bold and brave philosophy of "everything is troons." You are a sheep or "shiep" as you probably spell it
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>>96508048
>one of the most troon infested hobbies on the planet
>it's not troons
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>>96508048
>everything is troons
Incorrect answer thank you for immediately confirming that you are indeed to dumb for this conversation.
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>>96508075
>UW versions of cards are troons
you have a severe mental illness
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>>96508048
I don't think you live in a city because any LGS in a major US city generally has atleast 2-3 troons in the player population. WotC has been targeting the troon demographic hard for over a decade now.
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>>96508195
and this relates to UW versions of cards how?
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Is there anything interesting to do with this deck?
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>>96508277
Seems like you just win the second you can untap with her if no one has a counterspell ready.
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>>96508238
I already explained how it relates and you cried disingenuously about everything being troons.
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>>96505649
>reliant on their commander, which is a good thing.

Anon, its commander, not highlander. If you want to play highlander, go do that.
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>>96508238
The lolsorandom UB slop caters heavily to reddit troons
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>>96508277
If you like taking yuge turns that end with you miles ahead of everyone else or victorious yes
Same as every other decent cost reduction commander (thinking of you, heliod the radiant dawn)
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>>96508286
Considering you called it "trannyism", that sounds like your argument was about troons, anon.
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>>96508277
Using Black Market Connections as a giga ramp spell. Personally I like Will more since lifegain is really well supported and it's easy to dump giant white and blue creatures onto the board or convert an untapped Will into a massive X spell. Both Rowan and Will are peak commander designs though.
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>I don't want to suck cute troon femcock, just because I bring them up constantly doesn't mean I'm obsessed
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Slapping new art on Spiderman cards and calling it magic is the same thing spiritually as slapping makeup and hormones on a guy and calling him a woman. This is irrefutable you are all bugchasers
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>>96507619
I'm a big fan of "complex" art like MC Escher's works so I really enjoyed MKM's impossible lands.
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>>96508491
>AAAA NO MORE UB WHERE ARE THE UW VERSIONS????
>WotC makes UW versions
>Some of the UW versions are actually fuckin' great
>NOOOOOO TRANNIES!!!!!!!!!!
what the fuck man, how mentally ill are you?
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>>96508491
I honestly wonder if you are some agent poster designed to do nothing but cause discord.

>Slapping new art on Spiderman cards and calling it magic is the same thing spiritually as slapping makeup and hormones on a guy and calling him a woman. This is irrefutable you are all bugchasers


Seriously, who the fuck thinks this up, what is wrong with you.
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>>96508508
Bro ODed on his first red pill and is now making it everyone else's problem. Retards can't manage their power levels.
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>>96508491
So every reprint is not magic and troonyism?
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>>96506635
>there's only one way to build every single commander ever released and if you deviate from this ONE ALLOWED BUILD then you're a stupid piece of shit
cool story bro
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>>96505664
>picked up like a half dozen of Malakir Rebirth and Bala Ged Recovery on release for less than a dollar each
Feels good to have foresight. I got a good number of the MH3 MDFCs for cheap right after that set released too.
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>>96508277
>pain land
>pain land
>pain land + Rowan
>pain land + tap Rowan (-4 cost to your spells)
now use rituals draw and storm off, win
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>>96508491
What the fuck are you talking about? They don't even have the title thing underneath them to even mention spiderman.
Also this is just an insane comparison to make. If your mind is going to compare any sort of change to trannies you might need to seek mental help for than they do.
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bros I wanna build jin G progress tyrant as an artifacts deck but every time I look at it I hear a little voice whispering in my ear that extra turn chaining would be way better
what do?
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>>96508491
>Spiderman
>bugchasers
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>>96508507
>>96508508
You can cope all you want what I said is 100% correct. You are welcome to explain how its different.
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>>96508605
Build the cool version not the cancer nigger version
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>>96508521
No? Try to use your brain anon.
>>96508587
Most trannies dont carry their dead name around with them so I dont see why that matters.
>insane comparison
Nope. You have a man (spider man set) who is throwing on makeup (UW alchemy art) while not changing anything abiit the essence, and pretending pretending not UW.

Anyone is welcome to actual argue against the logic here but I dont see it happening.
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>>96508610
Okay, Mr. Shitposter. I know you're trying to start something but I'll ask you this (given you're trying to put the onus on us and not on you to explain your own stance)
How is it the same thing? How is a fictional piece of cardboard that is UW that is functionally identical to a UB card somehow related to men with mental illnesses in real life? This is seriously on the same level as saying Snow Swamps are the tranny version of Swamps because they are pretty much identical but there's some kind of dumb change.
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>>96508620
The UW skin does objectively fix two of the problems with the set.
1: Having 30+ named variants of Spiderman is confusing. Having a bunch of literally whos from random existing Magic planes is a lot easier to differentiate
2: Cards with UW art/name are much easier for WotC to eventually reprint.
That being said there are still several other problems with the set.
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>>96508620
what if my argument is just "this is a false analogy"
>You have a man
this is not a man
that's just it, it's not a person, it's not makeup, it's not a mental illne- ok maybe arena is a little bit of a mental illness
regardless, you don't have any logic, you have a mental knot

personally I agree with >>96508644's points. it isn't a good set of cards. making them a whole reskinned set on arena is dumb and confusing. saying "this is just like trains" is dumb on the face of it and undermines any point you could possibly have, to the point where I'm starting to think you're false-flagging.
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>>96508620
>pretending pretending not UW
>anon so genuinely mad about retarded shit he's fucking up his posts
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I hate ordering a whole ass deck from like a dozen sellers, gives me anxiety that some of it will get lost.
Already had one letter disappear recently.
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>>96508637
This has been explained multiple times im not repeating myself as clearly you are Just unable to grasp the concept.
>>96508644
>the hormones do objectively fix multiple problems with my body
Same energy same vibe for real.
>>96508660
You are not smart enough to talk to me please cease.
>>96508670
Not mad nor have I made any mistakes.
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Is there a 5-color or 4-color deck that can be build in a fun way on a budget? Is background tribal good?
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>he gave up after a single bit of pushback
for shame, shitposter-kun.
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>>96508808
>Is there a 5-color or 4-color deck that can be build in a fun way on a budget?
Yes, lots. Depends on what playstyle you're after
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>>96508277
no, the moment it untaps you pay any amount of life to any of the myriad effects than blast your asshole to the table
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>>96508808
>5 Color background Tribal
My I recommend Cromat? An nigh-unkillable, pumpable threat with evasion, that can potentially remove other threats, sounds like a good idea, right?
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>>96508806
I apologize, I underestimated you
you're not pretending to be retarded, you're actually retarded pretending to be smart
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>>96505649
Then I'd just run 5 color good stuff exclusively
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>>96508916
>you're actually retarded pretending to be smart
Many such cases!
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>>96505649
>save the format
There's nothing wrong with Commander
>tuck effects
Hahhha have your (you), retard
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>>96508808
Karona Pillow Fort
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I like the Spider-Man set.
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>>96508808
>Is background tribal good?
It's funny with partners, but not good.
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>>96507619
I'm a John Avon simp when it comes to basics. His use of light is so damn good. Note: I know fucking nothing about art other than what I like.
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>>96508916
>I dont have a rebuttal but if I lie to myself I dont need to
Very clever. Come back when you understand accidents and essence
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>>96508974
I'd probably enjoy a Genshin Impact set but I still acknowledge it would probably be shit.
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>>96509024
Wish granted.
All the cards are drawn by the artists who made the Miku cards.
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>>96508808
I've tried WUBRG BG tribal and it's funny but keep in mind that it's kind of a voltron strat so you're at risk of getting hated out somewhat easy. It's a fun digital brew but I don't know if I would commit to it in paper ever.
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>>96508974
As someone who only cares about the words on the cards, not the art, lore, or characters, it's just ok. There are some cards I like and will probably use. I'm happy though that Arena has UW versions of the cards, so I'll probably be proxing those, save for this cool gal here, her UW actually looks ass enough for me to care.
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>>96508077
>"The thing I said isn't what I said actually so you're wrong and stupid"
Go outside, I promise the trannies can't get you there but you will have to shower first if you don't want to catch a public indecency charge
>>96508195
I live in a densely populated liberal area, there's like a dozen trannies that frequent my lgs and nobody cares because they just play the game (unlike you)
>>96508286
That wasn't me btw and you mentioned trannies first, weakly defended your position by saying "it's trannies because it's trannies" more or less and then called me stupid when I made fun of you again, probably because your IQ is low
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>>96509024
>>96509045
I guess it at least it's a fantasy setting with a large cast of characters and elemental-focused magic. Kinda on par with Avatar in terms of how easy it would be to adapt to MTG.
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>>96509024
>Furina
>whenever a creature you control takes or heals damage, put a +1/+1 counter on it
whew
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>>96509083
If they make a Hu Tao card kinda in this style i'm dropping hundreds.
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>>96509098
Furina would probably be something that cares about life gain and life loss, like an Esper version of Betor.
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>>96509080
>the thing I said...
Correct. You have a tenuous grasp on the English language and as a result misunderstood something very clear.
>thats not me
Doesnt change the fact that I have explained it multiple times. You are retarded.
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>>96509054
Are all the arena versions posted someone? I only saw the cosmic Spider-Man one or whatever. Im not a big Spider-Man/comics guy outside of the old movies but man if this set wasn't underwhelming af in terms of cards
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>>96509138
Here you go:
https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena/through-the-omenpaths/card-image-gallery?cigfreshness=new-cards&cigset=OM1
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>>96509128
Show me the post where you ever so eloquently explain your position and how it's not just "this is bad and trannies because I say so" retard
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>>96509148
He won't because he believes the truths of it is self-evident and anyone who doesn't instantly get it is a moron. Why even bother engaging?
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>>96509024
don't even joke about it
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Hu Tao, Funeral Parlor Director - 4RB

Legendary Creature - Human

First Strike, Menace
Pay X life: Hu Tao gains +X/+0 until end of turn.
If Hu Tao was blocked by two or more creatures this turn, you gain half of the life spent to activate her ability (rounded up).

1/4
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>>96509138
So Arena is officially part of this general now, right? Good to know.
Still haven't pulled this off in paper. Too hard against 3 opponents and it's very obvious what you want to do
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hey so like is there any way in gruul to stop farwell? I'm even looking at color hate stuff, and I'm coming up short.
I'm playing an elf deck and boy did I get btfo'd, there's not a single card in my deck that can do anything about it.
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What we need is more UB and less UW.
You really trust modern wotc with classic Llorwyn?
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>>96509272
i take it back I'm running Temur Sabertooth but that's the best solution I got.
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>>96508995
Naw that's goated
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>>96509279
This, while true, is incorrect.
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>>96509272
Other than picrel, not really. Farewell is notorious for being something most decks will fall apart to. Just accept that yours is one of them. If you're in Gruul and board wipes are a problem, keep cards in hand and focus on protecting your draw engines so you have ways to redeploy faster than your opponents after a wipe.
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Printing basic land proxies with Adolf Hitler artwork rn.
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>>96509054
It is mediocre as a set. But I'd vastly rather use the spider-man versions over the arena stuff
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>>96509310
Man he sucked.
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>>96509145
Ty fren
>>96509169
I like to see how deep the delusions go. I'm sure he really believes he's epically owned me or whatever and I don't care because questioning the delusion will make him uncomfortable
>>96509250
Brawl is my preferred way to test commanders for playstyle and I wish every precon/bonus sheet commander got into arena
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>>96509310
This would fit really well in with early magic
I like it a lot. I guess that makes sense right? A failed painter has a lot in common with a bunch of mildly talented dorks from the 90s.
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>>96507038
>The activated ability is a meme unless you have enough Deathtouch/high power creatures to take advantage.
Well the point would be to force all creatures to block a 1/1 token so that everything else is unblocked. Screw death touch. If I activate that ability its because I want my stuff to all be unblockable
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>>96509336
Hey man for a homeless orphan teenager with no formal training or internet access he was pretty decent
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>>96506402
I played hellrider for a really long time in iroas
I think its a pretty ok effect in weenie decks
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>>96509310
Shit that's a good idea. I should make some.
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>>96509272
Those are the worst anti boardwipe colors in general, best you can do is probably get as much value as you can before it resolves with cards like greater good, maybe phase out creatures with talon gates
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>>96509347
Yeah I was thinking that too, his paintings look strikingly similar to the really old Magic illustrations.
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>>96509310
The more I look at it the more I swear this is actually on a magic card
holy shit did one of my friends proxie hitler's art onto a card?
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>>96509363
GET THAT FUCKING SHIT BORDER OUT OF HERE!
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>>96509371
Please try to find out if that's really the case, that would be hilarious
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>>96509377
he put it on a tundra, he's going to send me a pic in a bit
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>>96509383
Holy kino, please deliver
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>>96509225
Probably would need to add an "as a sorcery" or "at the beginning of combat" clause to the Hatred effect. The second effect could just be "when Hu Tao is blocked, you gain half the life you lost this turn"
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>>96509272
can you sac your board and pull everything back from gy? can you shuffle gy into deck and at least have important pieces still accessible? can you pull off something bizarre like 10 clones of Riftsweeper?

>>96509310
ye olde opinion of hitler's artwork is "he's technically talented but the works themselves are lifeless"

>>96509349
if you can win with Master Warcraft you can run both it and him. if you can win with Hellrider/Severina Raine, run all of them. He happens to do both.
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>>96509390
Yeah I realized that too after i posted it lol that effect can't be instant speed.
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>>96509363
which site did you use? I hate the one's in the op
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>>96509396
that's kinda funny cause I'd say he's technically a bit of a dumbass but full of life
I mean look at those trees, its like they are mid-dance.

But seriously can wotc please bring back this style, I'd stop bitching about UB, I promise.
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I think I'm actually gonna make some Genshin cards and post them to /ccg/.
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>>96509390
How would you word that card exactly and would you change anything about it?
I kinda wanna print it, it seems like a cool idea.
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>>96509389
he sent me a tinyurl to meatspin
what a prick
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>>96507619
the land which suprised me the most recently is the pixel art swamp form 2023 in foil.
the artwork really pops when in hand. too bad the other pixel lands arent as good.
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>>96509272
Gotta shit out lands because its 2025.
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>>96507619
We talk about the game constantly
It's just not always strategy because, spoiler alert, this format is massively flawed. Combo is king. If you want to win you play combo. If you want to have fun, people ask why you aren't playing combo. There just isn't that much else to discuss.

now my favorite basics are from invasion, great set, phenomenal basics. John Avon fucking loves spruce trees.
>>96508995
ah ya fucker, you took my image and we both pulled it from scryfall lol
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>>96509415
>that's kinda funny cause I'd say he's technically a bit of a dumbass but full of life
Nta but basically the longer you look at each of them the more off they start to feel imo. You'll start to notice little inconsistencies or things that just don't make sense. When you zoom out his compositions seem fine and often even palatable, but when you look closer at the details you can see where he struggled with the little details and flourishes like perspective and depth of field. I think that's where the uncanny/"soulless"/ "lifeless" common critique comes from, which is somewhat poetic considering the soulless and brutal political ideology he'd go on to pioneer. fascism/communism often gets shackled to brutalist architecture as representative of their plague on the human spirit, but I think Hitler's artistic expression is also fairly representative of the socialist disease
>But seriously can wotc please bring back this style, I'd stop bitching about UB, I promise.
I too am a little sick it the overly-rendered era of art and it sucks because it's here to say because it screams "production value" you can show to shareholders in ways that more traditional art does not.
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>>96509443
Get wrecked
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>>96509404
I just pasted it over a basic in paint. If you want to seriously make basics for MPC or something, it's usually better to just take a card from MPCfill itself and past the art you want into it since that way you have high resolution and proper formatting.
Otherwise I use MSE. MSE has nice templates for fancy basics.
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>>96509496
>it screams "production value" you can show to shareholders in ways that more traditional art does not.
I don't care if this is made up, I now believe it.
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>>96509451
Island is by far the best
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>>96509526
objectively wrong in my opinion
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>>96507619
It is 90% no games fags whining about having to see the wrong Scrimblo Brimblo on card art.

Also: As I said
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>>96509496
This criticism is just pedantic midwittery refined through a thousand reddit posts.
Perspective is difficult and takes a long time to get down right even today with access to infinite art resources from the internet, Hitler was some kid barely scraping by on the streets of vienna, self-teaching art with essentially no resources and later in life he would obviously become too occupied with other activities to refine his craft.
To look at what is essentially an amateur hobbyist's creations and infer something about their character because their art is flawed is retarded, people say those things because they're already in line with what they think of the man anyway and most people aren't gonna bother contradicting them.
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>>96509520
It's not made up dude everyone wants everything to look shiny and sleek because it's easy to explain to crusty old investors why it's worth however much money they're giving you, it's just like why AAA is obsessed with graphical fidelity.
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Didn't Gwen Stacy fuck Norman Osborne or something?
No wonder she is a great goblin commander.
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>>96509272
Well, there's this and >>96509308
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>>96509326
>But I'd vastly rather use the spider-man versions over the arena stuff
May I ask why?
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>>96509572
I always thought AAA was obsessed with fidelity because that was the old paradigm and they are too stupid to move on.
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>>96509632
Because a character I grew up with in many animated shows, movies, and games is far more appealing than any fantasy setting to me. I really don't care for elves and wizards.
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>>96509578
nice. Added to maybeboard.
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>>96509578
Gruul decks don't run rocks and have a lot of basics because of land fetching, so they might only have two or three colourless sources. You are right to mention that card though, people sleep on it.

>>96509668
Just make sure you actually have the colourless sources to cast it.
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>>96509664
Also to add a lot of the arena art is clearly rushed and unfinished. And the way arena cards look in general are very unprofessional so I'd never use them as proxies. Someone needs to fire whoever does the graphic design for arena.
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The only UB set that would make my dick wiggle at this point is Shin Megami Tensei. They've already exhausted most of the heavy hitters that would fit and a bunch of them that don't. Hopefully this Marvel shit will be over with fast.
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Opinions on my tight-budget Horobi deck?
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>>96509687
I like to show my friend that loves SMT and hates mtg all of the SMT proxies.
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>>96505649
Kills budget decks entirely. Many many budget decks are built around their commander. You'd just ensure more generic staple slop where the commander isn't even cast.
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'ate UB sloppa but he's calling to me. Very unique effect/build around strategy and he's the best doctor, tennant fans get the rope
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>>96509721
>and he's the best doctor
That is capaldi
Truth nuke etc
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>>96509721
Proxy it as some Izzet Guildmaster
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>>96509272
Not reliably. It's one of the reasons why Farewell should be a game changer even though it's not actually that great. Johnny All-modes is my least favorite player at bracket 2.
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>>96509721
there's a few fun cards in the dr who set
shoutout to The Flood Of Mars
just gotta proxy them with something that doesn't totally take me out of the experience and they're sweet
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>>96509721
If you want even more upkeeps, try Obeka.
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>>96509573
For some reason I don't see this in the UW gallery. Does anyone have the Arena/UW version of this?
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>>96509769
Don't think they did UW versions for non-standard cards
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>>96509769
it's not a mainset card
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>>96509724
Silence, zoomer; a gen Xer is speaking
>>96509751
What black upkeep enablers/payoffs are there? 9th is much easier to get out earlier to abuse his effect
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>>96509558
I'll pretend you're not just mad Im breaking down the creations and ideology of a failure you probably idolize because he orchestrated a genocide and entertain this. To get one thing out of the way, I am not saying and did not say that Hitler's art is bad because he was an evil man (which he was) or that I am judging his art based on his future actions. Obviously taste in art is subjective and the perception of the artist can warp perception of the art, but there are objectively proper and appealing practices and techniques in art and the understanding and application of those things is what separates the winners and the losers. Hitler was self taught and his work is mildly impressive for the time and place he was picking up his artistic skills with no formal education. Hitlers problem in art was that while he clearly understood the visual themes and composition of landscape art he did not understand how to refine the smallest details that creates that "the longer you look at it the worse it looks" feel his pieces tend to have. Afaik the finer details of Hitler's rejection from art school are lost to history but it's not exactly crazy to say that his stuff was likely far below what other applicants were producing in their pursuit of professional artistry at the time and he wasn't exactly a peach on a personal level even before the whole Nazi thing. Our creations, even at the most basic levels, reflect our subconscious. My point isn't that Hitler's art is evil because he was evil, my point is that even before his rise to power the art he made represents a focus on the bigger picture without an understanding of or ability to break down the small and important details creates an uncanny mimicry of life that is appropriately representative of the soulless ideology he championed, much in the same way that brutalist architecture does for fascism and communism alike.
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>>96509778
>Gen Xer
And I thought I was bad being here at age 40.
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>>96509784
you are gen x
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>>96507619
>This might be the worst AND fastest moving thread on /tg/
Welcome to 4chan, newfag. Every board, thread or general which is super fast is supershit. Enjoy your stay.
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>>96509845
They're usually fast because so much shitposting and trolling caps the threads fast.
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Re: the anon talking about genshit before I don't play but I was gonna say I would want a Baizhu commander but I guess we got one in the arena set
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>>96509793
Nah dude, millenials are in their 40s, now. Gen X is like 50+
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>>96510061
millennials can be in their early 30s
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>>96510061
if you were born in 1990 you are only 35. is math really that hard for you?
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>>96510061
the years for the generations all float by like 5 in either direction based on where you're getting your definition from.
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>>96510161
Millennials can be born before 1990, you dipshit.
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>>96510216
and after
you colossal moron
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>>96510179
>with the generation typically being defined as people born from 1981 to 1996
is what i use. he could have said 'MOST millennials are in their 40s now', and it would have been acceptable, but the statement 'millennials are in their 40s' is a definitive statement, when it's not true - they can be as low as 29.
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>>96510074
millennial here, I'm 39, turning 40 in November. "can be" and "are" are two different things
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I just booted up Master Duel and my opponent took so long on his first turn that i completed a 15 minute youtube video and he still wasn't done (idk how some people never run out of time??).
Anyway i'm glad to be maining Magic now.



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