My Combo-y Senses Are Tingling Edition >Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96514290
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my sleeved up pauper decks are high tide, poison, cycle and ruby storm, mardu synth, uw senpaitachi, walls spy, orzhov discard and dimir control. I have room for one more do i go with caw gates, esper affinity or temur skred?
>>96530568If you would order this 4 subjects:Spider-Man setDoctor Who setOmenpaths for UB setsAvatar setFrom “i’m fine with it and i will play cards of such product” to “this can burn in hell” how would you order them?
>>96530636hello mr advertiser, no, I will not do your job for you
>>96530484I'd rather do another FNM against Vivi than spend my money on Spider-Man cards. Hope it goes well tonight.>>96530636>Omenpaths for UB sets>Avatar set>Spider-Man set>Doctor Who setThank God that British shit isn't in standard.
Most recent biggest paper events:>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=73458&f=PREM92 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=72661&f=PREM32 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71876&f=PREM45 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71875&f=PREM40 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71540&f=PREM81 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71249&f=PREM107 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71247&f=PREM60 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71452&f=PREM50 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM177 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM66 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM84 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM279 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM92 players>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=67416&f=PREM52 playersEmbrace tradition.Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home.
>>96530855What If we sent a Japanese schoolgirl?
>>96530855>I'm not playing premodern.Enjoy your spider-man slop then, I guess.
>>96530636Omenpaths (specially Spider-man that Omenpath for now is miles away better for the original product)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avatar (at least this is Magic adjacent)>>>>>>>> Doctor Who (i like EoE but this serie is just so shit)>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit and Vomit>>>>>>>>>>> Spiderman (literally the worst shit ever shitted by WotC with cards like Hot Dog Cart)
>>96530636>Omenpaths>Powergap>Avatar>Double powergap>Dr. Who>Spider-Man
I don't like the ritualposter but I'm starting to build premodern mono blue skies. I already collected one of each old frame foil basic so I can foil out most of the deck. I'm wondering if I can get away with 2 Faerie Conclave or 2 Mishra's Factory or something but being a Daze Gush deck it seems like it leans very heavily on having consistent islands.
you're all welcome, now let's talk about premodern
Thoughts on my standard deck? https://moxfield.com/decks/BOV9iwZR00iQotoJNYWEBwVivi doesn't stand a chance :3
>>96530484why doesn't this work with 2 copies of the same legend
>premodern tournament tonight>numb because 5 hours of sleep and full day of work>take backpack with decks, drive to lgs (45 min trip)>when arrived, realize I took work backpack instead of deck backpack>fuck>deadguy ale is at home now>have to borrow a deck from lgs owner>stasis deck>well good since I am stasis player too>went 1-2, 2-0, 2-1>second place>20 euro voucher won>all went better than expectedBack at home, I realized I chose to wear my mtg "nope" shirt for the night. Foreshadowing
>spooderman projected to lose most of its value on release>literally no one is buying it outside of scalpersGood, its killing 2 birds with 1 stone, I hope scalpers get burnt.
>>96531664Stasis is pretty strong in the current meta, much stronger than deadguy ale is.Luck was on your side tonight.
>>96531694You can say itBut Stasis has near unwinnable matchups, where Deadguy Ale can challenge pretty much everything. It is my pet deck
>troll banned in Legacy>I ragequit and liquidate my MODO account with 2k pps and Vintage staples for pennies>buy foil Blue Eyes White Dragon deck>dodged entire YGO B&R today Time to White Lightning Pat Chapin out of jail
>>96531728>Legacy player ragequit over Troll of all cardsMan you are NOT gonna like YuGiOh actually updating their banlist.
>>96531777fpbp
i actually like avatar
>>96531813I like Avatar too… Out of my fucking TCG, that’s it.
but ATLA already had a TCG...why does it need to be in MTG now?
>>96531728I didnt know we had a ban list today.>moon bannedstop banning generic shit for fucks sake. I would unironically be having more fun if they freed isolde, appo, and barone.
>>96531777UB should never have been legal to begin with
>>96531678Then again, some scalpers will just double down. I've seen some that said "Buy 6 or your order will not be accepted" or something like that
Cost more than 4 and you ain't got haste? Bzzt you fail the test and his name is Jace.I ultimated both Jaces btw
>>96531876It has 22 orders, thats piss poor numbers even for scalpers
>>96531897>People playing 5+ mana do-nothingsIs this the fabled "real Standard player" WotC mentioned?
>>96531913This is cube and that card is Nova Hellkite. It’s an okay finisher in arena cube but nothing special. I needed another big creature
Arena cube is actually really good btw. The reason they don’t leave it up is no one would play draft. The one thing I’m iffy about is they break singleton for some lanes like fetches. They don’t feel easy to get so maybe it’s better idk
>there are scalpies who bought spider-man collector boosters for $800+Loooooool!
>might actually crack and buy an UB because I like the thingis this how they get you?
>>96532013>x can't be zero but why?
>>96532020Because that plague winds yourself, and they don't want arenababs to accidentally do that.
>>96532020To prevent combos where you kill all your creatures whenever they enter play for an entire turn
>>96532020either to stop retards from accidentally clearing their own board, or to stop retards from purposefully doing it (to trigger death effects en masse and easily for example)Either way it's just wotc being overly handholdy again
>>96532028>mocking arena players but missing the point because you are bad at magic and can’t see the ways to abuse the ability when cast for 0Ironic
>>96532033There's way better ways to sac all your creatures, it's highly unlikely she'd ever be used for that.
pic related for example at 3 mana
>>96530568Do you think Yera was slush art, and they asked the artist to add in Oski for this set? Like with MKM and the hats?
>>96532054Yeah they don’t do that often any more and it’s always restricted to certain colors. They stopped because it’s used to combo all the time (including with woe strider)It’s not meant to be a common effect and definitely not in UW
>>96532081Tell me what aristocrats list is going to run UW and not B.
>>96532032Is she a witch that sacrifices her own team in the Avatar lore? Because if not, it makes no sense for her to do that.
>>96532020Because it would stall scam the game>X = 0>Respond to it on the stack by activating for X = 0 before it resolves>Repeat until they give upIt's locked to your turn but it's not locked to sorcery speed so without the mana cost you could just spam scam.
I love playing combo decks, here is an old and a new combo, I am trying out right now, not good enough to win anything in modern but I enjoy metafags wondering what the fuck my deck does when they thoughtseize......
>Another FNM of back-to-back control matchupsYou fuckers kept telling me aggro is at 80-something%, meanwhile I haven't seen any aggro since August.
>>96532111>guys! i broke intruder alarm!
Cube is low key the best format in magic by a mile with the best aspects of both constructed and limited but no one plays it
>>96532170too much work compared to just going to fnm once a week for draft
>>96532098>trying to use lore of a lore breaking set as justification for overdesigning a card for edhonlies
>>96532170I would love to play Cube, but my legacy playgroup usually splits immediately after legacy finishes so we only play once or twice a year. There is a dedicated commander playgroup at my LGS, but they typically focus on nuMagic or commander cubes I have no interest in. The playerbase also seems insufferable, pic related.
>>96531307Beautiful. Clear Blue skies is a comfy deck.There is also a Mono green version Called Green skies.Small greens flyers + Rancor.
>>96532208wtf i love legacy players now
>>96532220Blue Skies is a nice tier-3 deck.
Ooof, should we tell 'em?
>>96532340What?
are spirits still playable at all in modern?
Nothing except Vivi and Cauldron are playable in modern.
>>96532411>vessel of valgagoth >effects do not interact with valgagoth
So why are we even getting a set based on that M. Night Shyamalan movie that bombed anyway? You'd think they'd pick a more popular franchise for a UB
>>96532745They wanted James Cameron's Avatar UB but the guy they sent on the job doesn't see color so he's like "James Cameron, Shyamalan, same thing to me" and got the wrong movie
>So why are we even getting a set based on that M. Night Shyamalan movie that bombed anyway?Ruben Fleischer directed Venom, not Shyamalan.
Spiderman is not selling.I bought 40 cases of this fucking shit and nobody wants it.What the fuck do I do.
>>96532811lol. lmao
>>96532811proof?
>tfw you thought this is your standard year but overlords has been declassed to non tier for months now>wotc telling me how standard is now the most stable it has ever been with standard decks lasting years
>>96532844>Standard is incredibly sta(b)le i suppose it is
>>96532811stay the course
>>96532844WotC says this isn't even Vivi's final form. They're gonna wait for something that makes it even worse to come out before banning it.
>>96532897>Nadu & Vivi, Dynamic Duo>URG>Flying>3/4>Creatures you control have "0: Add mana of any color equals to this creature's power. You may play that many extra lands this turn. You may put that many cards from the top of your deck into your hand. Activate this ability only once per turn." and "whenver you cast a noncreature spell, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature then it deals damage equals to its power to any target"
>>96532897
>>96532909your mistake for not removing the turn 1 llanowar elf
Ok but where is Loot?
>swap out Thing in the Ice for Young Pyromancer>get a 1/1 that makes 1/1 tokensWow fantastic, I get chump blockers that don't even have flying and any wipe or fucking Goblin Chainwhirler btfos themWhere do I get advice from actual players?
>>96532966>Young PyroYou were told to replace it with Cutter, retard
>>96532966Anon.Cutter.
>>96532978>>96532996Please spoonfeed it's value to a retard, I don't get it
I'm just gonna say itBig green stompy 15/15 giant wurms and giant mammoths and shit are KINO
>>96533028>Timmy and Spike get lots of love>Vorthos has to put up with Final Fantasy sticking its dick into everythingWhy am I still playing this game?
>>96533167Vorthos was never a real archetype.Moreover, it's not like Final Fantasy is un-Vorthos in principle, just requiring more nuance. Ardyn reanimator is plenty on flavor. For Ardyn.
>>96533024Reading the card explains the card. I'll break it down for you once, but if I have to explain again I will stop being so polite.For 2 mana, CSC gives the equipped creature +1/+1, Haste and Trample. When you cast your second spell on a turn, it makes a 1/1 with Prowess. Prowess means that when you cast a noncreature spell it gets +1/+1. You may equip CSC to that token when it is made.This means that if you have a 1 drop after CSC, you have paid 3 mana for at least at least a 2/2 Haste, Trample, Prowess. If the token dies or is removed, you will generate a new one the next time you play two spells in a turn. If the cutter is removed, you still have the 1/1 Prowess token creature. If the token lives and you cast two spells on your next turn, you have the original token at 3/3, and can shuffle the cutter on to the new token to swing wider, or leave it up as a chump blocker for your 4/4 Trample.This is all just on the card. Now consider what else you can play in Red or Izzet and you can see how this is going to quickly generate retarded amounts of value that is difficult to remove.
>>96531307Man lands are bad because Winter Orb is your best card. Gush Foil Daze WInter Orb will win you a disgusting amount of games
>>96532811>>96532811I remember this meme, a guy posted on his socials a video saying "nobody wants these", showing a couple dozen boxes from a new pokemon expansion. He only forgot to mention he was selling them for double MSRP and people had started posting evewhere about scalpers, because casuals, that were coming to the hobby attracted by the cool cards, saw how bad the situation has gotten to (high prices, stores always sold out) but didnt know it was plain and simple scalping.
>'Free' ff booster for buying a game
Did we really get 7 standard sets this year?It is all so shit.
>>96530726I just watched this guys video about that he is dissapointed about the spiderman set, why the fuck is he talking like he is adressing the nation about a global disaster ? I mean I love playing mtg and this set sucks balls..... but it is a fucking card game man get over yourself.....
>>96533323>gameA game key card. You need to download the whole game online so the game card doesn't contain the game itself.
Rate my commander deck>swamp x49>relentless rats x50
>they finally added the OM1 versions on scryfall>can't find a way to use that image on mtgprinthelp? does mtgprint take a while to get updated because all it finds is the marvel version
>>96532811>What the fuck do I doGet a job
>>96533494Disgusting
>>96533591Ok boomer.
>>96533494Physical video game purchases have been a meme for a hot minute now anyway. Modern games are too big for discs/cartridges and will virtually always require some sort of digital download for update patches anyway.
>>96533323why put 'free' in quotes when the ad doesn't mention the word free anywhere.
>City Pigeon>Rent Is Due>Taxi Driver>Guy in the Chair>Supportive Parents>Bagel and Schmear>Hot Dog Cart>News Helicopter>Passenger Ferry>Subway Train
>>96532455no but they're ok in pioneer, just make sure you bring your seam rips and portable holes to deal with all the creature spam
>>96533827Fake cards.
>>96532455Pioneer spirits are on the rise.
>>96533827Never heard of these cards in my life.
>>96533827If it's any consolation I think they're aware at this point, they already acknowledged the feedback in DSK that they may have started to do that so often that it started to get annoying but they're working a bunch of sets in the future. I'm not saying they're getting rid of them entirely, but probably going to reduce the frequency so maybe only the three designs in this space that resonate better make it and we don't have to see cards about Filing Taxes or The Dishwashing Machine. That's my hope, that's my cope.
>>96533771This is very well put, I assumed we would reach this point eventually but I wasn't aware we had crossed it, a million hurdles for indies to go physical as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BISebXFgxa0Lootbro how will we recover?
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Very often when I'm playing against that Simulacrum Synthesizer deck by turn 4 or 5 I'm like, welp I guess I can never win from here and then my opponent blunders 14 times and I end winning. Is the deck harder to play than it looks, am I overrating my opponents' hands and openings? What's going on here?
i'd say magic died in 2020 with the introduction of fire and secret lair. each set after eldraine has been progressively shittier and more pushed, modern horizons has rotated modern and turned it in to a joke format so much premodern became a thing, wotc tested ub in standard with dnd (no one understood it) and the competitive scene died with coronersif only we knew oko/omnath and the walking dead were just the tip of the iceberg, 2020 truly is the year mtg died
>>96534013nothing has ever been printed that's worse than Oko
did the arena thread go down again?why is the nameshitter back?
When are the ATLA spoilers
>>96533966https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAlF0ej4aVQno, you will watch my 50 minute video and you will like it
>>96534013FunInvitingReplayableExcitingTranslation: "We decided power creep should be embraced instead of controlled. The meta is disposable if it makes the line go up."
Don't worry guys, the spiderman set will fix the meta.
>>96530636Omenpaths (for paper) >> Avatar >>>> Spiderman = Dr. Who
>>96534254There's actually a way to embrace and manage powercreep at the same time, dependent upon rotation. MTG has different, sometimes redundant categories of cards. You could have, say, an artifact set, where you creep the power of those cards specifically. Then in the next set you can creep some other class of card, like maybe you can make Auras relevant for awhile, and while you're making that set you also throttle artifacts back in power. And hopefully by the time you're running out of specific categories of cards to get safely and temporarily power crept that first artifact-centric set rotates out.
>>96533827Sorry but i prefer real cards.Fuck UB.Hail Omenpaths. Every fucking UB should have Omenpaths so i can avoid shit like Cabbage merchant.
>>96534534this nigga zesty as FUCK, look at that face
>>96534538UG is twink tribal
>>96534013real question: would oko mean something in a meta game with let’s say cutter/vivi/nemesis or rage being playable? in the moment was really crazy but… seems like powercreep has gone far enough even cards like pic related doesn’t matter anymore in current metagames…
>>96534534>>96534538I think Wijaya is taking some xianxia inspiration in his work. Everybody gotta be a jade beauty
>>96534563>with let’s say cutter/vivi/nemesis or rage being playable?>turn your cutter into an elk>turn your cauldron into an elk>turn your nemesis into an elkAlso with Llanowar elf into standard you could make t2 Oko so yes Oko would still be strong.
WotC should have mtg arena have a way for you to buy the deck you made in the app.I built a deck i like, and id like to order it, but my fat ass has to go online to some other single retailer to buy it.Guess they dont like money.
>>96534796Don't give them ideas
>>96534796Who allowed you to post my wife? Back the fuck off?
>>96534796it would be funny to see the shitstorm that wotc selling singles would cause
Which elemental new mechanic in ATLA will break this game and become a new nightmare balance for WotC?
>>96534894Aside from firebending? Probably one of the sub-types of bending
>>96534894Firebending and AirbendingI mean see this >>96532922 and calculateAnd Airbending letting you cheat any shit? Come on i know they don’t play test but this will be ridiculous
>>96534894Genderbending {1} ({1} change the pronouns of this creature, if a creature gets misgendered by an opponent, they lose the game).
>>96534894>artifact>1:Sacrifice boomerang. It does 1 damage to any target>At the beginning of your next upkeep, return it to the battlefield.Then have it combo with some bullshit triggers.
>>96534894None, they're all shit. Airbending might be used to combo with DFCs or something like that, but that's it.
>>96534935Or hell, make it a modified Leonin Bola. Just have the creature get "If this creature does damage, give it +1/+1 counter" rather than making it tap others
>>96534894This card is gonna do some weird shit somewhere at some point
>>96534444That used to be a real thing, you know. I recall how, in the run-up to Invasion, one hyped aspect of it was "the return of multicolored cards." There was at least one article I personally read talking about "doing a thing every 10 sets" and how gold cards were that thing, having been absent after Stronghold (Exodus, all of Saga block, and all of Masques block had NO multicolor cards).>>96534058Uh, companions?>>96533878>"Please don't call Magic cards fake just because you don't like them."- MaRo regarding Transformers in Brothers' War booster packs
>>96530636Dr. Who had the decency to stay contained in Commander and it was actually kind of creative with its mechanics by exploring stuff like suspend, vanishing, etc. Same as Fallout.
>>96535196>Uh, companions?Still healthier for the game than Oko.Oko was an abomination. A planeswalker that controls on uptick is fucking insanity.
>>96531839all culture must become a gray rehashed Content slurrynew ideas aren’t $PROFITABLE
>>96535357You shat on every new idea this game has had.
My girl did nothing wrong.#FreeLurrus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nH-DC88o8new aids just dropped
>>96534563strong not broken, this is what the broken cards from 2020 have becomecards like oko don't have the explosive power shit like vivi has and shit like winota is way too slow for the current "die in turn 3-4" AHEM "meta"this game isn't cooked, it's charred
>>96533167>Johnny watching as the 8000th splashable value engine/wincon gets printed, widening the gap between expressive strategies and value piles
when this game will allow non-aggro deck to be playable? since thunderjaction the level of red cards has been pushed to the skies, are they not aware of this insufferable situation?
>>96535628you mean in standard? because combo is playable in every other format
