id like to listen to fa/tg/uys playing some ttrpgs they liked on my way to work because my own campaigns only happens once in a blue moon and the market of ttrpg podcasts is oversaturated with reddit memelords with shit humour.
>>96540123No. Fuck off.
yes
>>96540141why so mean
>>96540123yesn't \tg\ does is not ha's it's own chritical roll thingI am mocking youFuck off.
>>96540239>:(
Yes it’s called green text story threads
>>96540315no actual personalities are in that tho
>>96540123Watching other people play games is for people who don't play games. Would you watch someone else watch a movie? No: you'd watch a fucking movie. Watching others play games is weird as fuck.
>>96540355what if you cant play games at that moment or you wanna see others' stories
go to your local library, get a library card, and register for one of the associated electronic media services like overdrive
>>96540404Hey you do you. I guess I read replays sometimes back in the 90s. But trying to watch other people play just feels so cringe and boring and voyeuristic, to me. Go to cons and events, some times. You don't wanna be that guy standing next to a table watching others play. It's just... icky.
>>96540404Personally, watching someone rolling the dice and doing the raw mechanics is honestly more boring than just reading a replay or even a greentext summarizing it. Games of this nature are far more fun actually doing it than just being on the sidelines. Like, I dunno if you're content to read replays or just get suggestions for more well-known storytime threads from /tg/ history, though I'm hesitant to bring it up if only cause I know the "that totally happened" brigade will show up just to shit on everything.Still wish Chaos Dragon didn't blow, cause the premise was funny in a weebtastic way.
>>96540496i think i will be content
>>96540123/tg/ doesnt have one, we're an image board so it would be kind of weird to run a significant media production through. We also dont have any we agree are good. You'll just have to fish around
>>96540355>Would you watch someone else watch a movie? No: you'd watch a fucking movie. Watching others play games is weird as fuck.That's a retarded analogy. A person watching a movie isn't contributing anything to the movie. A more accurate question would be "Why would anyone ever watch a movie instead of just going out and doing what happens in the movie themselves?".
>>96541007>A person watching a movie isn't contributing anything to the movie.A person watching a game isn't contributing anything to the game.It's a perfect analogy.
>>96541147You ARE the person watching the game in this hypothetical scenario retard. You aren't watching yourself.
>>96541178Correct. You are getting as much out of watching someone else play a game as you are out of watching someone else watch a movie. I'm glad to see you got there.
>>96541186Why do you watch movies?
>>96541199Same reason I play games.
>>96541206Which is?
>>96541210Have you not seen movies before, anon?
>>96541212No, I'm an alien and the concept of these "movies" doesn't exist on my home world.Please explain the appeal of them to me.
>>96541218No thanks, anon.
I WILL BE YOUR CRITICAL ROLE THING ANON. I HAVE A BIG OL THANG . THEY CALL ME THANGOS
>>96541221Well you're no help, but I'll try to guess. It seems to me like these "movies" are just recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watched by you, the "viewer" for the sake of entertaining them. And you've already admitted you enjoy this.But, isn't that the exact same thing a "game"? Is that not also a recording of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watched by the viewer? What's the difference?
>why would you watch sports when you can just play them
>>96541245>It seems to me like these "movies" are just recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watched by you, the "viewer" for the sake of entertaining themIf they're doing that, then you're not watching a ttrpg.>>96541262Because you're watching others play at a level you cannot. How does that apply to a ttrpg?
>>96541273>then you're not watching a ttrpg.Exactly, you're not watching a ttrpg, you're watching a movie. You're watching other people pretend to to things instead of doing them yourself. Why?
>>96541284Hey I've got nothing against amateur theater. If that's what you're getting outa Critical Role and the like? Go for it. That makes sense to me. Watching other people play a ttrpg doesn't. Which is what my contention was way back here >>96540355If your whole point is "they're amateur theater, not ttrpgs?" Yeah that makes sense, anon.
>>96541300>If your whole point is "they're amateur theater, not ttrpgs?"How exactly are the two mutually exclusive in your eyes?
>>96541326Who said they're mutually exclusive? I said "they're not the same thing."
>>96541339>Who said they're mutually exclusive?You did, this entire argument while you've been arguing there's no possible reason to ever watch a recording of other people playing a ttrpg.
>>96541356No, I didn't, anon. You're desperately trying to construct a strawman so that you can chase the fleeting rush of feeling right on the internet for a moment, rather than having an honest conversation.That's fine, anon. But no idea why think I'm obligated to help you, just because you wanna insist "what you ACTUALLY meant was..."Go be productive. Clean your bedroom. Do some dishes.
>>96541273Now you’re getting it, watching others can be a novel experience compared to the norm.
>>96541385Sure man. There's nothing wrong with enjoying amateur theater. My contention was that there's no reason to watch people play games. Your point is "they're not really playing games, and the point of watching them is to enjoy amateur theater--not watch people play games." I get what you're saying, now. That makes a lot more sense than watching other people play TTRPGs. Can't say I'm interested in it, but you do you.
>>96541377>>96541400Your sudden shift to an annoying "Haha cool man whatever I just like don't even care about this argument, but you clearly do and I'm better than you because of it but like haha whatever man just chill and get a life you do you man but just like stop caring so much about this silly argument, cause I clearly don't haha I'm too cool and chill to care so much like you clearly do" attitude to try and slip out of the corner you backed yourself into and run from the argument while pretending like you won isn't subtle in the slightest, and is in fact incredibly obvious and sad. You aren't nearly as original or clever as you think you are.
>>96541426What corner?Here's my contention: "Watching other people play games is like watching someone watch a movie, rather than watching the movie."You can tell that's what I said and meant, because it's right here: >>96540355If your point is "you're watching it for amateur theater," then that does not disagree nor contradict a single thing I've said, anon.
>>96541441>I wasn't wrong! "Playing a ttrpg" obviously means everybody just sits at a table in complete silence rolling dice, and my point was just that watching that would be weird!>But obviously if anybody at the table is speaking or putting on a performance (AKA role-playing) in their table top role-playing game, then that means it's actually "amateur theater", which is a completely different thing that's actually OK to watch (not for me of course though because I'm above that)>Yep, I was operating under the assumption that OP wanted to watch people roll dice in silence, which is a totally normal and rational thing to assume anyone does or would want to watch, but by my conveniently made up distinction between a "ttrpg" and "amateur theater", I was never wrong about anything and won the argument the entire time!
>>96541539>I lost an argument so I'll type in greentextPretty weak, anon. If you've got something to say, use your words.
>>96541546And now you've reached the point where you won't even read my posts, and are just sitting with your finger on the submit key with the laziest reply possible pre-written for everything I might say, to hope I'll get tired of creating actual arguments only for you to ignore all of them, you can get the last reply, and then declare yourself the winner. Again, you think you're original and clever but you're far from the first autist to argue like this.
>>96541577Read the greentext where you make things up and pretend I said them?No, anon. I won't read your strawmen. You understand that's what it is, right?
>>96541602Ok so what is the distinction between a ttrpg and amateur theater according to you?
Every anon who read this thread lost (the game) thanks guys.
>>96541614Not according to me, anon. I was agreeing with you. You said, all the way back here: >>96541245That what you're watching for is to see people act out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watched. Which isn't the same thing as "people playing a game." And I agree with you that, if what you're getting out of these is the pleasure of amateur theater, rather than watching people play a ttrpg, it makes perfect sense why you're watching them.In fact, I already agreed with you that your enjoyment of amateur theater is a perfectly legit reason to watch these shows. I explicitly said so back in >>96541300.It's cool, anon. I've actually dated two different single moms who were into amateur theater. You do you.
No, thanks to /pol/ being associated with 4chan is exclusively toxic. Anyone doing this would be making a product for a subsection of a subsection of a dying site. Imagine showing your face and saying you enjoy 4chan for anything that isn't right wing propaganda, just make a normal yt channel and you'll do better even if it's right wing propaganda.
>>96541658Unfortunately this is correct. It's become shameful to use 4chan, since 2017. But I still like the format.
>>96541646So just to be clear, you are NOT going to explain the difference in your mind between a ttrpg and amateur theater? You're just going to ignore the question and go back into "haha I'm so chill and above this mode" again?
>>96541672I'm saying you explained it, anon. Right here:>>96541245>It seems to me like these "movies" are just recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watched by you, the "viewer" for the sake of entertaining them. Your definition. That's the one I'm going with:>recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watchedThat's amateur theater. Not the playing of a ttrpg. Your definition. That's the one I'm using.
>>96541678No, that's my definition of a ttrpg. Acting out fictional scenarios is "role-playing", and "role-playing" is quite clearly right there in the term "table top role-playing game". >That's amateur theater. Not the playing of a ttrpg. I say those are the same thing. You're insisting they're different but won't explain how even after being asked about 5 times in a row.I'll even help you get started composing your explanation.>Amateur theater is when people act out fictional scenarios to entertain an audience>But playing a ttrpg is when...All you have to do now is fill in the part after "...".Couldn't be simpler! Can't wait to see your answer.
>>96541764>recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watchedThat's your definition of a TTRPG?Wait, really?
>>96541783What's yours?
>>96541798It really doesn't matter, anon. If you think a TTRPG is>recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watchedThen I guess it explains why you like Critical Role. I think you might wanna lurk a little. Or hell, google "TTRPG."
>>96541818>It really doesn't matter, anonI think it does. And I think there's a good reason you've tried to do absolutely anything besides answer the question for 7 posts in a row now.
>>96541836Because you want to derail the argument into a discussion about the definition of ttrpg I posit, because you've already lost the argument we were actually having.Yes: I understand that, anon.
>>96541844Does a table top role playing game inherently involve role playing? If not, then what does the "rp" stand for according to you?
>>96541896Here are your quotes:>>96541764>that's my definition of a ttrpg>>96541245>recordings of other people, acting out fictional scenarios for the purpose of being watchedEnjoy!
>>96541932I know what my own definition of a ttrpg is, I'm curious about yours. I even googled it just like you said and it said it stood for table top role playing game just like I thought, but you seem to think the "rp" stands for something else. I just want to know what you think the "rp" is because clearly you wouldn't be arguing with me otherwise.Why can't you tell me? I've asked 11 times, will you finally answer after 12?
>>96541262I was thinking about this post, and how it would actually be a pretty good analogy for D&D shows if only the players in pro sports had fictional personas they embodied while they were playing, and the games they played had pre-written narrative structure. But then I realized that already exists, and it's just pro wrestling. D&D shows like critical role are just pro wrestling for fantasy nerds, it all fits so perfectly. The players/wrestlers have fictional characters they embody (with varying levels of immersion), and they play out scenarios with each other (with varying levels of scriptedness) for the entertainment of the audience, who knows it's at least partially fake but just enjoys the stories and performances regardless. The only major storytelling difference is wrestling is all PVP based while D&D is PVE based, where the DM plays all the bad guys himself.
>>96540123There's at least one guy recently who has been posting his actual plays. I think he started a substack recently?
Try World of IO.Typical 4 chan, you ask a question and instead of getting an answer you get a bunch of cunts telling you that the way you enjoy things is wrong.
>>96541273>Because you're watching others play at a level you cannot. How does that apply to a ttrpg?The majority of people do not have the improv/VA/set design chops that goes into your high end TTRPG show. Like this is an entire production, its really not that strange when you look at it from the lens of it being a *show* rather than an accurate representation of how TTRPGs are.
>>96540123We used to have Storytime threads that would do more edited idealised accounts of games which I guess is similar to how Critical Role works.All Guardsmen Party was probably the last of those. /tg/ is mostly just bitter and hateful to its own hobby now.
>>96540355Watching a movie>watching an audiovisual presentation of other people in some way acting out a storyWatching an RPG being played>watching an audiovisual presentation of other people in some way acting out a storyThe story to time ratio is different with the all the mucking around in the typical RPG session but they're on the same layer.Watching people watch a movie>watching an audiovisual presentation of people watching>>an audiovisual presentation of other people in some way acting out a storyBy watching people watching a movie you've removed your watching one step away from the story and your attempted analogy "watching people play rpg" with "watching people watching a movie" fails.>Would you watch someone else watch a movie?Apart from the occasional Best of the Worst and MST3K, I generally wouldn't.I think watching them is weird as fuck but what you've described is reaction videos and I hear they get views so someone's watching them.
>>96541956When somebody posts like that guy, just call them a faggot and filter the convo. Make sure to tell them you're filtering them so they can seethe. Maybe even add in an "if you reply to this, you're seething" bit, those are fun.Anybody who does this annoying dance around autism is just a faggot who can't argue on the actual merits, he has to play debate team nitpicking because he's a faggot, which then forces you to play debate team faggotry where you must meticulously plot out all your posts to make sure every word is 100% exact, meanwhile he plays by his own rules of posting like an obnoxious faggot.Not worth talking to or thinking about.
I wouldn't watch it. It would just be a bunch of severely autistic neckbeards screaming vitriol at each other.
>>96540123Listening to actual plays that involve uncharismatic people who mumble is not that fun anon.
Critical Role is amazing.
>>96540355But I don't have any friends who play D&D and I'm too autistic and awkward to want to play games with a bunch of strangers. Watching other people play is the only way I can consume ttrpgs
>>96540123/tg/ is a reddit colony now, we have known redditors like puckee who post frequently here
>>96553267who is puckee
>>96553492Redditor who has spent the last 5+ years spamming /tg/ with his low quality character art. He has a known habit of replying himself when ignored. He has faked being both a requester and artist in the draw thread. His posts are always low quality paste to serve spamming his art.
>>96540123Chances are we do not, but if you really want to start one then that can all be on you. Just remember that there will be a lot of opportunistic trolls looking for cheap laughs at your expense so be careful. And try not to give them the reactions they want.
>>96540123All guardsman party is pretty much that I guess. Only problem is shoggy never wrote that ginal episode
I will listen to people play a game I'm learning as an example of gameplay, but I'd rather run a game solo than listen to someone else have fun. Same way I feel about vidya streamers.I don't know who the big table top channels are, but I assume they're the reason my groups devolved into generic reddit quirk slop.
