>>84377587

Heyo Diplomacyanon, its Promyanon. I actually haven't been on in VERY fucking hot minute as I've been hit with a multitude of RL trains, so if you talked to anyone you thought might have been me... might not have been the case. I messaged you back on Pastebin if you ever wanted to take a gander and hit it up with me again.

Honestly to nip it in the bud and squash the beef, I just wasn't vibing with your suggestion because, frankly, I'm new to this game-making stuff. I've *RUN* games, but not built them from scratch. So you really do have to explain game mechanics to me like I'm five sometimes. Also I wasn't vibing with what seemed like an odd insistence on mamono being violent and hostile to humans but humans not being able to be violent and hostile back because they can just no-sell it(psychologically). I'll elaborate further on this with Ogre-chan(I didn't finish my point before and it was slightly bugging me).

To harken back to the transcripts on record(if you would, Court Recorder...) I originally thought you were just giving a bonus/buff to Lizard-chan for free. I will say though that, frankly, I'm not sold on the <Human 'Buffet' during Character Point-Buy> to be adequate enough compensation for Monsters getting a free Bonus... Reason being PCs are notoriously shit at going with their gut and buying myopic and backhanded buffs and powers that are easily exploitable by the GM... at least imo.

But I can play ball with it because I think I've come up with an adequate compromise: The '4-Set' if you recall is 4 different Stimuli that Mamono have that are:

1. Similar to Human Behaviors to an effective degree
2. Exploitable by even the most Chumpiest and Pathetic Stated of Human PCs and NPCs

I think I may have forgot to mention, which added to the confusion, that I was thinking on all mamono having a 'centralized' and identical 4-set and then a species specific 4-set that would not overlap but be superseded by the centralized 4-set.

>>96545249
(cont.)
The Centralized 4-set that all Mamono would have was:

Positive Punishment(Behavior Corrective): Pain and Violence
Positive Reward(Behavior Reinforcement): Pleasure and Sex
Negative Punishment(Behavior Restrictive): Energy Starvation
Negative Reward(Behavior Tolerating): Freedom and Exposure

These would not be superseded but complimented by the species-specific 4-Set of Behavioral Stimuli. Mechanically this would effectively mean that Lizardman can have their Marine Corps Hymn Against Pain Buff... UNLESS a Hooman triggers the Positive Punishment of EITHER the Lizard's 4-set or her Mamono 4-Set. Humans, upon triggering the Mamono 4-set PP can universally paunch Lizard-chan and make her suffer the Painbow. Lizards effectively can do their Berzerker Chant all they want but once a Human turns on the Central PP, it does a 'Bypass' of their buff. Essentially Lizards can go Berzerk... until they get their shit punched out by Johnny Hugh Mann.

Humans would get access to these 2 4-sets for free and can be used automatically as physical circumstances permit(you cant paunch Lizard-chan if you have no arms, etc.)

Savvy what I'm putting down? Ironically you assumed before I was making a Mamono vs Human game, it honestly wasn't my intention. Apoloigies for the confusion agian. It was indeed a cooperative setting between Humans and Mamono *but Mamono could go into wild phases and have to fight attempting to attack their human comrades*, in exchange for this Humans had access to the 2 x 4-Sets. The Trigger is free of charge and automatic, requiring no ritual the human has to perform.

>>96545257
(cont.)
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To segue to Ogre-chan and the aforementioned point, I wanted to put the nail in the coffin of the 'Egalitarian/likes violence and slavery no matters whose doing it' Ogre by citing that KC has directly dissuaded the notions of using hyperbolic rhetoric to the monster profiles:

From his Q&As:

>Additionally, We Japanese value the contexts of sentences rather than what is written literally. It is called "言葉の綾(kotoba no aya)". For example, if MGE says "Men who have sex with MGs become impossible to think except for sex with them", it an expression which intends to describe how attractive the sex with MGs is. It doesn't mean that all of them LITERALLY become unable to think except for sex.(But if they wish, they can do that) This seems to be one of the "gaps" KC tried to explain years ago.

>KC also put another nail in the coffin of grimdark interpretations by explaining in more detail how hyperbolic the settings are, and also how the Wandering Scholar is not meant to give perfectly accurate information all the time.

To answer your tongue-in-cheek retort: Who said her green ass doesn't run from fights and that doing so means she can cope and tell herself she didn't lose...?

I agree that finite shit is finite, but this must inherently mean there is a finite level of violence Ogre-chan can psychologically take including getting 'Paunched'. Simple as.

>>96545305
(cont.)
At the end of the day, I'm fine with Ogre-chan being able to take a punch or such, I'm fine with her being a pillaging rampaging rape-hungry slaver lunatic. But there DEFINITELY needs to be physically violent and vicious ways to make her suffer to take up the slack. Ya know? Part of me is thinking that NON-Combat Violence will be her Species-specific 4-set PP, specifically any and all forms of traditional and modern physical torture. Ogre-chan can keep fighting all day but once she's restrained and the calipers, scalpel, car battery and clamps come out... she is NOT going to be a happy camper. Nifty, eh?

inb4 Oh noes Promyanon is Marquis de Sade! In all honestly I'm really not... It really just stems from establishing a physical-psychological profile that is fair, takes humans seriously, takes what humans take seriously... seriously, and feels like a fair fight for even the Chumpiest of Humans.

In all honesty this took more time to type than it did to think about, its a simple mechano-narrative plug-and-play. Neat dont you think?


>>78849571
>>78857807

Interesting...

>Dressage[...]mamono mind-screw is just Dressage under a species-contextual circumstance, it only needs to be fit to the same mechanic. So attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface.

By 'attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface' do you mean attempted mindbreak(by humans) to avoid rape(by mamono)? That would be Dressage as Dressage is inherently Human behaviors that Mamono find to be inherently hazardous to their Psychological health(at varying intensity and such). Good on you for giving it the college try.

A day has come, that this thread arises anew.

Salamanders and lizardwomen are glory hogs, so they should at most be medium infantry.

>>96545858
I like the idea of a high salamander warboss from ones that survive the high attrition rate.

>>96545050
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6DO3eO7T1pxFK7eoGT2QvEy2kZAW0MIQLnjhYZsVXg/edit?usp=sharing

This link's dead yo.

In the end our raid succeed, the /JP/'s thread is dead and all those faggots migrated to an alt chan and they lost almost every writefags

>>96547663
No one raided anything.

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>come back to 4chan for the first time in years
>/mgw/ is back
Is this a sign? Have I travelled back in time? Did the Palibros win?

What have I missed, anons?

>>96548145
It is a sign, of better things to come.

>>96548448
I like it. Monster girl discussion can get so dry in some places.

>>96548145
The thread on /jp/ is dying thanks AI slop and mass migration to an alt chan. /vg/ and the thread on the porn board are dead dead. We can shine once more and rise to the top

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>>96548662
>We can shine once more and rise to the top
Not so fast, bucko

I will make monstergirl sex illegal and a lot of people can and probably will stop me.

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>>96548949
>a lot of people can and probably will stop me.

>>96545312
(cont.)

>>78857807
>My hack would convert Stress from Corruption into a specific Consequence: Too Horny/Crazy. Then it would be up for being toggled by anyone. I'd throw a rule of allowing a save for every attempt at flipping the switch.

Hmm, interdasting. I was actually looking at Fate the other day, ironically. But if I were to use this sort of modification you recommend for Fate, there ought to be an equal and opposite Consequence-Stress 'Matrix'(I guess would be the term?) for being Too Horny/Crazy.

'Too Crazy/Horny' needs to not just come with a moral dilemma(inherently obvious if you aren't a b l o c k h e a d) but more importantly an ammoral dilemma(inherently decreases the physical or psychological competence of the Monster PC). This is because in my literal experience there will be players who dont give a shit about the moral dilemma and/or actively seek it(murder/rapehobory/players that play evil characters, etc.).

On a tangent 'Crazy' to me inherently means a loss of competence over some sort of cultural taboo, which is meaningless to me in a setting with literal societal corruption, amorally they're not crazy they're just superior ubermensch(4 u). How's that saying go? 'If its stupid but it works better, it isn't stupid.' Rape is only evil according to human morals...

Therefore I think I would have it where the Consequence system needs to have both a moral side(rape lunacy) and an amoral incompetence side(combat incompetence) for me to effectively consider this seriously. OH WOULD YA LOOK AT THAT I HAVE THE 2 X 4 SET. *Fanfare*

I'm thinking the Positive Behavioral Stimuli(very ironically named PBS) will be based on amoral competence(Introduce pain or violence, introduce pleasure or sekshual intercourse) and the Negative Behavioral Stimuli will be based on moral dilemmas(rape and rape accessories)/ Alternatively the amora incompetence nerfs could be the Centralized Mamono 4-set while the moral dilemmas are the Species Specific 4-set

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>>96550994
(cont. into the sun)

Now one could ask: "Why not make moral consequences get punished by the universe?"

Honestly did consider it... briefly. Frankly, having God literally smite Mamono for being Crazy Rapists is just kind of lame from where I stand. Why have them be rapists at all? Just have The OverMan Prometheus-kun Thanos Snap his fingers and oh no more rapists~!

Nah dats gay, backing morality with meta-physical powers is just poopy and lame-sauce in every time I've seen it tried, but that could just be my preference in Settings and Games.. I cut my teeth on Delta Green baby with my fellow EMTs and Paramedics and ER Murses, the only moral backing you get for defending yourself from a mindrape-hungry tentacle monster is a 10mm bullet to its Polyp ass, or failing that, a 9mm bullet to your own head to 'Go to Your God like a Soldier'.

To me, a Good Ending is preferable to your character sheet getting utterly humiliated but granted life... there are fates much worse than GAME OVER...

Anyway where was I? Oh yeah, Diplomacyanon I'm honestly at a loss at why you adamantly refuse to grant Mamono rape and sex powers and making them sacrifice combat competence in exchange. *MGE is LITERALLY about powers based on rape and smex, my man.*

Honestly I can roll with Mamono Rape Powers... *as long as humans can hit them where it hurts literally*. Tit for Tat makes for AMAZING gameplay.

>>96551100
(cont. into the stars)
Addendum.

I guess I should say for the sake of it just because I want humans to be able to back their shit up themselves by physical/psychological force and not requiring no fancy-smancy Acts of God or GM, that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to get to super edgy misery porn either. I know I've mentioned torture and stuff but I would hope that you can infer that I mean the punishment would be tonally relevant to how edgy the behavioral models are for Monsters, Humans, and etc.

As we've talked about before Diplomacyanon, neither of us are seeking a '''magical realm''' all things considered, but at the same time I want Humans to not just be on all ends of the power spectrum(and in-between), I want even the Chumpiest of ain't-shit statted Hairless Apes to at least have the CHANCE to lay the suffering-train via violence on a Rape-crazed Ogre that just broke into your house.

Even if Chumpman gets absolutely obliterated because his stats are a dumpster fire, at least he has the ability to fight to begin with... Not even my 2 x 4 Set guarantees victory if you fuck up the dice rolls.. The trigger just allows *access* to employ pain and pleasure, it doesn't guarantee you'll wipe the floor with your opponent if they out-level you.

This all said, I totally would like a 'ripcord' so that Chumpman doesn't get absolutely bodied by Ogre-chan, how that would be implemented is up in the air at the moment...

>make monstergirl army in Midgard
>or obscure 90s fantasy ruleset

>>96545312

>>78857807
>>This can be fixed to settings via specified Consequences. Promyanon had a system for the differential response to Corruption. It varied btwn A & I. Funnily, both could use the same mechanic. Iirc, Humans had to process Corruption via doing Dressage on mamono, or becoming memewizards. Since mamono mind-screw is just Dressage under a species-contextual circumstance, it only needs to be fit to the same mechanic. So attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface.

Rereading to elaborate, if by ‘memewizards’ you mean ‘mamono equivalent to what humans would consider rapeface’, you’d be right. Humans commenced Dressage on Mamono to burn off corruption or failing that, would exhibit behaviors that Mamono would find terrifying and ‘equivalent to rape’.

This was the two sides of Dressage essentially, one that was a special form of Behavioral Bond, the other violent enslavement of Mamono.

This worked for me because I needed to find something that was the equivalent of Mamono ‘Rapeface’ as you would put it.

So if Mamono had mindbreak(rape husbandry) and Rapeface… Humans would have mindbreak(Dressage) and damning Mamono to a life of slavery. (And before you ask, yes it would bypass Turtle-chans appreciation of servitude)

>>96551526
(Cont.)
AD.

…unless you mean Mamono ‘attempted mindbreak’ on themselves? Rereading again I’m not sure what you had in mind here… it sounds like you want Mamono to be attempting to mindbreak humans to avoid raping humans… these are quite literally one and the same? Not sure what you mean here by ‘Mindbreak’.


Dressage itself had multiple variants I went through, but if you mean ‘Mindbreak’ as in ‘Literal Brainwashing’ than we’re back to my Holy Terror version of Dressage where the ‘carrot’ humans gave Mamono was humiliating slavery and the ‘stick’ humans gave them was violent torture that bypassed any psychological buffs Mamono could try to defend themselves with. Probably one of my more darker models of Dressage desu, but this was when we were pondering Mamono just literally murdering and eating humans so I mean… fair is fair.

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I came into this thread wanting sexy monstergirls roleplaying and instead got strange pseudophisolophy ramblings and namefagging of old drama. I am 22 and what is this.

>>96551832
Post something Monster Girl related then.

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What would monsters think of fashion that imitates their features?

>>96547449
Thank, will change it next thread

>>96551947
I have to imagine significantly flattered and possibly thinking that you are trying to get her to notice you in particular.

>Roman Velites running around wearing Wolf skin and hides.
>Wolf-Girls: Gods I wish that were me

>>96551999
This has to be correct because trips

>>96551947
>I'm not a costume!

>>96552118
Aren't there 2 or 3 that are wearable?

>>96551329
Do a little of both and see what gets more mileage for yourself.

>>96553139
I don't think anyone's heard of Fantasy Rules! for the better part of two decades.

>>96551832
>wanting sexy monstergirls roleplaying and instead got strange pseudophisolophy ramblings and namefagging of old drama
Welcome to /mgw/!

Maid should be the basis of a Monstergirl roleplaying game. Essentially roll up an OC and fuck around with her for an hour with your friends and their random OCs.

I like monster girls. I want monster girls in my adventuring party.

>>96557356
As long as they have a dice roll to rape you and reduce your stamina.

>>96557427
That's only when we go back to the Inn or camping

A few years back I stumbled upon the CYOA Monstergirl Survival Allies and spent some time wondering about such a world and optimizing to increase both survivability and sexing.
Each potential mate had stats (mostly with subjective but in one version with objective values) for armor, attack, magic strength, magical armor etc.

Granted, it's not the exact same world as MGE, but most if not presumably all monstergirls are there and AFAIK its isekai reality kinda has less civilization in the world and allows for other human isekai drop-ins to exist simultaneously. I might be confusing details, though, as the MGE itself is not that fresh in my mind either.

That CYOA had a few versions and most had you choose between a few monstergirls and powers. Was quite entertaining for a while (until I realized I had better use my time elsewhere, lol).

>>96552951
From what I remember:
>living armor
>not wearable per se, but giant almost indestructible slug that keeps dude safely guarded in her mouth either in place of her tongue or tied to it
Might be more monster girls that apply.

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>>96556249
This is a very good idea. Simplified the mechanics immensely. I mean, maids want to do to Master what monstergirls want to do to human males in the same way.

>>96557427
Stress in Maid can easily be renamed as Stamina.

>>96558945
Post'em if you got'em.

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Has anyone played Monster Girl Adventures: Classic or Revised(ReMonstered)?

I am running a game for Classic with a few modifications(read: many modifications). Other than it being unfinished and having a bit of TTRPG autism, it's been functional

The main changes are as follows: Health, Willpower, Damage, Spellcasting (largely the same), and Status Effects.

It seemed easier to get rid of SD(Space Distance) and simplify things to use Zones rather than arbitrary ranges.

>>96562253
I'm afraid I don't have the files, but a quick search for 'CYOA Monster Girl Survival Allies' led to two or three of the latest versions. Dunno which of them is the best one, though. I'll investigate it carefully later.
Also, not sure if posting those here in /tg/ would be ok since it has some loli content from the MGE.

>>96562992
Thanks, anon. You can't post PDFs here any more so just post some links and 4chan doesn't care what's at the end of them.

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>>96548662
Non-Futa Monster Girl thread on /d/ isn't dead. Just checked.

>>96564979
It gets like 2 posts per day and most of it is just silent image dumping, nothing happens there so you might as well consider it dead.

Hell, even the /jp/ thread on skeleton crew is orders of magnitude more active.

>>96564186
No problem.
One could potentially find that CYOA >>96558945 in:
https colon slash slash imgur dot com slash gallery slash monstergirl-survival-allied-3-0-6JESY (v3.0)
https colon slash slash i.4pcdn dot org slash tg slash 1426165787246 dot pdf (v3.1)
https colon slash slash imgchest dot com slash p slash qb4zwelg4jm (v4.1.1)
Haven't had a chance to check them out properly, so still not sure which version is the best.

>>96568661
Nice, thanks!

>https://imgchest.com/p/qb4zwelg4jm
Where are the rules for this?

>>96569594
Well, the rules are in the text present in the images, mostly in the introduction but with further choices further on.
You could save the monster girl descriptions for later, read first what the woman-entity that brought you there is saying along all the pages and then proceed to the monster girls that interest you the most.
And you're welcome!

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I was actually brainstorming a serious monster girl setting a few days ago. Just going to dump what I came up with:
>humans and monsterfolk both naturally produce mana, and form a group called "manaforms"
>the mana levels in a human would kill an animal
>however, injecting mana into a pregnant/gravid animal causes them to produce monsterfolk offspring
>monsterfolk created this way retain some characteristics of their animal parents, but also have "human-like" features, an intelligence boost, sometimes increased size, etc.
>all manaforms can produce viable offspring with other manaforms, so many who don't obviously resemble a given animal are hybrids

>humans are the first known type of manaform, and are sometimes called "firstborn" because of it
>all others are the result of human mages creating them from animals, or from crossbreeding
>monster creation reached it's peak during the Bronze Age; however, widespread abuse led to the persecution of practitioners
>by the 5th century BC the practice was mostly forgotten

>interestingly, attempting to create a monster from a monkey produces a human
>this has led some to speculate that manaforms' shared features represents the image of God

>>96571747
Bump.

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How does /mgw/ feel about Baphomets?

>>96571747
>injecting mana into a pregnant/gravid animal causes them to produce monsterfolk offspring
And regular "injections" do nothing? Not understanding what the point here is. Shouldn't having sex with monsters/beasts produce monstergirls? Not just sex with already-pregnant women? Your world needs more mythical explanations and less anthropological taxonomy.

>>96576369
uooh
I am using one for a BBEG, they're cute and funny.

>>96576272
Oops that quote was accidental.

>>96571747
>injecting mana into a pregnant/gravid animal causes them to produce monsterfolk offspring
I really don't know if you want those implications.

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>>96571747
I like the concept of manaforms and humans being the closest image of "God", but beastfolk being made with pregnant animals feels fetishistic. Is it meant to be odd and perverse as to drive home the wrongness and taboo of the practice or is it just your barely disguised fetish?

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>>96545050
We need more elemental monstergirls. What are some of your favorites in this regard, or thoughts on designs for new ones? Including ones for less common elements like Light, Darkness, Gravity, etc.? Me, I like the idea of an elemental aura around them.

>>96582195
He didn't say that humans were the closest image to god, but the shared features of manaforms.

>>96571747
What system does this use? And Bronze Age? is this meant to be a fantasy version of our world?

>>96545050
What are the key things to remember when creating new monster-girl species?

>>96589215
Logistics. As in, how they fit within the world, their space, their needs.
What do they do, do they belong to a wider society or their own insular community?

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Rabbit females are bigger than the males. Think of that the next time you see a bunnygirl.

>>96591041
Why is that? And what are they some ways for the same phenomenon to appear in humans or humanoids in general?

>>96589506
Okay, makes sense, thanks. Do you have any specific examples please?

>>96562488
No I have not. I would love to hear about your modifications though.

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>>96596116
This is all the changes, as written. There are things that I missed, I am certain, but generally squishing all of the numbers and providing more clarification for certain things that were unfinished.

The high damage and wounds of the original were too prone to a death spiral, IMO. It also was difficult to track as it was originally: (BOD+1) for six health bars with wound penalties for losing a health bar. Willpower was a SCH+BRV which did not seem to be implemented except for Social Combat and one monster ability to do Willpower damage.
Health was squished down to a single bar, Willpower became a second health bar, and Magic was able to damage Willpower.
I changed Status Effects so they felt more balanced than before and I added more clarification for the important ones. (e.g. Freeze would stun you, but it was unclear whether or not you would roll to dodge if frozen)
I think I would like to have a similar setup for martials being able to inflict certain conditions, such as prone. For now, that can only be done through weapon tags.
Weapons were cleaned up too. It looked like someone with medieval weapon autism was given free reign

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>>96592871
NTA, but in most cases when the females are larger, there are typically a higher number of males. This is especially prevalent in insects, but is known to happen in other animal life when the females are larger than the males.

In some cases it can become complicated. For example, I've been extensively researching mantises for a race in my own setting. For them, the females are always larger, and more colorful to boot. And yes, the males outnumber the females by a good margin. That is, until maturity. Turns out, they tend to even out in numbers by the time they have their last molt when they become adults. Presumably because all the other males died while searching for LOCAL FEMALES IN YOUR AREA.

Also, we don't have conclusive evidence as to why the whole "eating the male's head" thing is done. They tend to do it more in captivity, even when they tried to feed the female as much as they could; though a female that has a full stomach is less likely to. Some species do it more than others. Some scientists believe that the female kills the male - and gets some nutrition out of it - primarily so that the male isn't being greedy with his sperm, as mantis males will often try to fertilize as many females as possible. Since the male mantis doesn't exactly need a head to keep pumping sperm (automatic bodily response, and all that), then the female will get all of the sperm that his body could literally provide.

Then there's weirdos like Brunneria borealis, the only known species of mantis to reproduce asexually, meaning that they literally don't need males to reproduce. They just make more of themselves, the process of which is called parthenogenesis. Parthenogenesis is known exists among other insects, but only for females. When I did research on whether there were a male-only species of anything, the closest thing I found is a singular, extremely endangered "male" tree that makes clonal colonies of itself because the females are gone. Called the Wood's cycad.

>>96551100
I'm glad that Big Iron becoming a meme has brought that album back to the public consciousness but I feel like I'm the only person under the age of 60 who unironically loves that genre of music.

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>>96551947
It's somewhat related, but I like the idea of "half-breeds"/hybrids making fashion choices that reflect some physical aspect(s) of one of their parents. As an example, a hood, headpiece, or neck covering that imitates the hood of a cobra, the decorative scale mail-like jewelry to imitate scale patterns on a lizard, or stylized garments with excess fabric around the arms (Japs have something close to what I'm thinking about. I think it's called a haori) to imitate the wings of bird/harpy.

Bump

>>96596981
>then the female will get all of the sperm that his body could literally provide.
Wish I could find a girl that wanted my semen that much.

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Which dynamic is better?
>High elves are a race of prudes while dark elves are a race of exhibitionists
>The high and dark elves are both races of exhibitionists but high elves will deny it while dark elves will admit it

>>96582195
>>96581821
>beastfolk being made with pregnant animals feels fetishistic
...I honestly hadn't thought of that. That wasn't my intent at all, it just made more since to me for the transformation to occur before they were fully developed. I may have to rethink that part.
>>96585165
>is this meant to be a fantasy version of our world?
Yes. Though you could drop it into high fantasy without much issue.

>>96603825
What is the core reason for their exhibitionism, is it biological, cultural, or a mix?

>>96603825
What about other kinds of elves? Like wood elves for instance? Maybe they're even more shameless than the dark elves.

Bumping

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Hey everyone, I'm trying to write a story about a paraplegic (no legs) befriending a harpy (wings instead of arms). How interesting would this be to y'all?

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/128737

>>96615202
I'm potentially interested.

>>96615202
Both of these people seem like they would have a lot of repressed rage.

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>>96603825
Denial + repression, and the attendant taboos, secrecy, blackmail, and betrayals that engenders, is more interesting than simple repression. So the latter.

-t. Elf Sex Expert

>>96545050
I need a girl who takes thick massive shits which monster girl is for me?

>>96603825
What other details can you share about their cultures? We need more context.

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>>96618595
awesome
>>96619991
they kind of do. Here's a passage:

"It was her grace that he should stay here free, but his torment that she and her disses should live freer in his head. Why ungrave his disability––what else kept him rooted? She’d gone too far, but wasn’t that what wings did? Why did he expect someone like her to understand him––someone so blind to her limits, that she couldn’t even afford to look down? someone who led not by support, but example––and even when she helped, helped doers?

She was singular in her generalizations,
and had pushed Mitka in mocking his wheels,
so far that he wondered if he’d stay. Yet wasn’t it
his wheels that got him in, too crippled to be
tray her? If he could walk, she wouldn’t
have let him in––so had her trust
been built upon neglect.

Oh, what oaken suspicions lay in the why of trust! How privileged to sleep here after dark, even if the dark made slipping by a breeze."

>>96596981
Thanks for the information. What are some other monstergirl species this should come up in besides bunnies and mantises?

>>96630338
Certain baleen whales like the blue whale, and many species of fish. Not so common for males to be smaller and more numerous for terrestrial animals outside of insects, it seems.

>>96576369
Possibly the arch-nemesis of my Superhuman Humans, ironically. My 'Prometheans aka Titans' are titanic Humans of incomprehensible strength, both physical and mental. They were made by intelligent design specifically as the counter for the more aggressive and hostile type of Monsters in-setting fluff. Ogres, Ushi-Onis, and such ilk would frown at the mention of them, and go cold sweated when aware one is around. Such was this sort of biological/genetic memory type of fear of Prometheans that keep them in check.

But it came in the cost of being really really 'loud' on the spirit energy spectrum, Monsters could see them coming quite far away, and had poor magical resistance. Big magic users(like Baphomet) could very easily exploit this and just dump Demonic Mana at them.

This made for a pretty cool and dynamic sort of gameplay in the testing I've done with my friends. It made the otherwise popular sort of fighty and aggressive mamono think twice before going somewhere, anywhere... without their tribe/pack Shaman to back them up.

Likewise the Humans were sort of in the same MO, Titanic Man did the heavy physical lifting, Adamic Man(Regular Humans) kept the magic spectrum up and running so that said Titans didn't get ambushed by magic users.

It was cool and encouraged teamwork to make the dream work. I'm pondering if and how I should make variants of said Prometheans/Titans for flavor.

>>96631996
>I'm pondering if and how I should make variants of said Prometheans/Titans for flavor.
I can certainly see the creators experimenting with different variants on the concept. Here's a thought, what if at least some variants are recessive traits that show up from time to time seemingly at random?

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>>96549193
Long time no see, Warhammer Fantasy Anon. You might not immediately recognize or know me, but I still remember the days I actually suggested you lore and stories for you Warhammer FantasyxMonster Girl Encyclopedia fanfic setting. So you still work and write for to this day? I'm not talking about the would-have-been mod, I'm just talking about just writing, lore and stories.

Especially what with Total Warhammer 3. Knowing Total Warhammer 3 and it's latest features and elements, and of those you add to the WHFxMGE fanfic setting?

>>96631964
>many species of fish
Like what? Also, I'm reminded of how clownfish change genders as needed.

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>>96545050
What are some animal features that work well for demon girls of each of the Seven Deadly Sins after the obvious ones like peacocks for Pride, bunnies for Lust, chameleons for Envy, etc.?

>>96633718

"Think not on thyself with thoughts of power
Nor flesh and blood and muscle strand
But with the inner Eye of fancy.
Think of the love that conceived your being
The imperfection of you and yet your myriad value regardless
In fulfillment of His Holy word:
To know what to do, is wisdom.
To know how to do it, is skill.
To do it for it must be done, is service."

Lore blurbing ahead:

To add context, I had it where the creators of these super soldiers were a secret sect of Engineers and Craftsman within the MGE's Human Order, known as the Freemasonry. The study of craftworks took on a whole new meaning rather than just a guild to construct great physical works, but life itself and soon enough something more. Originally would be seen as nothing more than a heretical cult by the Order's status quo, and regularly purged. This would steadily change with the Fall of Lescatie being a catalyst toward the Order collapsing into the Great Schism and brutal civil war that drastically decimates the human population. I find it a sort of cool irony that no matter what the Monsters of old had thrown at humanity, it was not as cruel or lethal as what man can do to another man. Homo Homini Lupus and all that. The Freemasonry as a result of finding out of the Chief God' lie took it upon themselves to find a solution: If the Gods had betrayed Mankind, Mankind would create a God of its own.

Thus the Prometheus was born.

There was now a third player to the celestial table: The Overlord of the monsters, the Overgod of the world, and the Overman of mankind.
Part of the 'New Groove' that Prometheus would bring would be the next evolution of Mankind, the transhuman 'Genetic Ascendency' being reached to level the playing field with the Monsters.

TL;DR totallynot!God-Emprah is born and the totallynot!Astartes take the field to bring back the light and such.

I've thought of going with a contemporary layout of different Promethean Races based on functional roles, (cont'd)

>>96639600
(cont'd)

Ie. for instance the DnD 12 Classes, but didn't know if I could jam it in in a satisfying way for me or perhaps dividing them into 4 sort of 'Super-Races' with 3 relevant Race-as-Classes each.

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>>96631996
>>96639600
>My 'Prometheans aka Titans' are titanic Humans of incomprehensible strength

Coincidentally, I also recently made a homebrew race which is referred to both as prometheans and as titans. Warning, there is some serious autism present in this homebrew, and I made it just as a writing exercise for my own entertainment, not to actually use in a game.

This isn't explicitly for a monster girl setting, but I was taking inspiration from Gor (I haven't actually read the books yet, but I plan to), FATAL (from the ), Arduin, and pulp in general. Also the "Elf slave, wat do?" reference is on purpose.

>>96640643
>FATAL (from the )
This was a misclick, I meant to say "FATAL (from the bodily descriptions and mental illness probabilities), which can either be used mechanically or just as fluff, but I do not think they detract from the game and I would like if D&D used them as well (both because it adds detail and opportunities for creativity, and because it triggers anti-verisimillitudists and Modern Audiences). Having bodily proportions and strict personality guidelines have mechanical effects is practically mandatory in a MGE-inspired setting.

>>96634719
Is there a 40k version of this pic?

>>96639600
>Oh no, he linked it to Warhammer 40K...

>>96642748
>>96640643
Do you think my version of a Promethean/Titan race is more interesting/creative?

>>96643982
Oh I'm not that anon saying oh noh, I'm Promyanon didn't get a chance to look at the thread yet. you got some good stuff for your Ur-Humans, well done. I honestly haven't gotten around to thinking on that end of adding things like Autism or Aspergers or sort of male-oriented mental recessi8ve defects and such... Which is ironic given that while my setting isn't aiming to be a grimdark misery I do like it to be gritty,.down-to-earth, 'realistic' as far as Monster Girls go.

I should take a look at Gor desu, as well as FATAL. You're definitely right that physical and mental parameters are pretty necessary to emulate somethinglike MGE. as corruption tends to be its bread and butter.

>>96642748
No franchise is spared in the gaze of this framework, especially when it involves superhumans. Nature of the beast and all

>>96634719
>So you still work and write for to this day?
I got partway through turning my WFRP2e hack into a professional looking document but then, modding Total War Warhammer drew my attention away. I also should update my Armies of the World fanlore for the big Kislev and Cathay expansions. It got wiped from the internet by the Monster Girls Redux site going down.

>>96644812
>It got wiped from the internet by the Monster Girls Redux site going down.
https://monstergirlsredux.moe

>>96644073
>I should take a look at Gor desu
The main concepts I took from Gor are the priest-kings of counter-earth as well as a less extreme version of the Kajira concept (which I combined with the "Elf slave, wat do?" meme), otherwise Gor is basically just a Magical Realm version of John Carter, although I still plan to read at least the first book.
>You're definitely right that physical and mental parameters are pretty necessary to emulate somethinglike MGE. as corruption tends to be its bread and butter.
I was actually referring to the fact that most monster girls have a specific behavior that defines how they interact with humans (primarily human men), and that most monster girls satisfy a certain fetish, and their bodily descriptions add to this. I also just like unnecessary but still relevant anatomical details in monster entries, like D&D had before 4e/5e declared war on verisimilitude.

>>96647278
NTA, but thanks.

>slime queen that grew over the years into a slime village or city
>several 'individuals' connected to the hive mind, with separate bodies and even proto identities
>each slime 'citizen' probably needs to be connected to the hive via at least some thin tentacle (if physically separated due to accident or fight, merging back ASAP with the main massive slime organism is probably ok)
>village homes may or may not be built out of slime
>slime queen in question may be of other slime varieties (that can also become slime queens due to splitting mutations IIRC), such as dark slime, nureonago or shoggoth
>slime queen devoted to her husband, tolerates outsiders who obey and respect the rules and culture
Would be practical.

>>96652877
Neat idea. Is there a system that works well for it?

>>96652877
That is pretty cool.

>>96654441
>>96655531
Thank you. That had been one of my choices for monster girl ally in that CYOA >>96568661.

>>96652877
>>96657412
Other monster girls to pick possibly include the living armor and fey queen Titania.
Would be a decent set of stats for survival while also being fun to live with in such a world.

>>96659715
Dryad, nereid and sandworm are also very intriguing.

Allied bump

>>96663824
Nice
Do you have a strategy/choices for that CYOA yet?

>>96664710
Seconding this ask please.

Bump

>>96660681
>Dryad, nereid and sandworm are also very intriguing.
Why those specifically?

>>96672137
Probably because of the unique protection, survival and daily living capabilities of each one (each of which would of course have to share the husband with the other monster girls in this scenario).
That is not to say other choices wouldn't be very nice as well, obviously.
For those who missed the links, descriptions for them can be found at these links: >>96568661.

>>96667705
>>96659715
For boons I had considered ones among Collector, Family Man, Magical Training and Stealth

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Anons I need your expertise:

> very unnatural black and white aesthetics.
> often warped psyche, disconnected from human.
> culturally connected to undead and demons.
> often has territory around dark clubs, cemeteries, dungeons or other ruins.
> can curse her victims.
> probably lays eggs since nobody ever saw one pregnant.

Can goth girls be considered humanoid-type monstergirls?

>>96677449
Just have them wear hats so you can't prove they're not elves.

>>96672576
Thanks anon.

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>>96677449
Goth is a style of dress. Any mamomo can use it, though some mamomo might have their features clash with the aesthetic more than others.

>>96647278
>I was actually referring to the fact that most monster girls have a specific behavior that defines how they interact with humans

Ah, I see. Yeah it does make for a certain pull no doubt. Right now Im trying to find the right balance between keeping relevant anatomical and behavioral tidbits for each Race, while trying to find a sort of flexibility in a way to prevent them from seeming too ossified and 'same-ish', at least imo. In this effort I've thought about making it where there are two sort of personality models that align to each mamono, one as the Mamono Race says on the tin, the other more flexible to be anything, even counter-intuitive, to the original fetish.

I haven't *really* fleshed it out much, but the results seem promising.


On a different note, I've also thought about making it where the 'Familiar' Race is less-so a 'Race' and moreso connected to a sort of state of metaphysical and physical being that ANY Mamono can be made into via some sort of medium('Dressage', etc.)

Familiar instead of being Loli Sabbath Worker Bees are instead going to be for my setting Mamono that have cast aside the Maou in favor of being loyal to Mankind.

>>96687103
(cont'd) Some lore-fluff:

[The Ceremony consists of the donning of the Holy Collar of Iron upon the Familiar within audience of the Platoon and the Brother-Chaplain of the Company Headquarters Command. The Brother Chaplain approaches the Handler and recites the Challenge by addressing his name, his rank, his identifier and the following: "State your mission, Brother."]

[The Handler recites the following to the Familiar under his charge and care and the Brother/Company Chaplain in ceremonial tradition to the audience of the Platoon:]

[This is my Familiar, there are many like her, but this one is mine.

My Familiar is my best friend. She is my life. I must master her as I must master my life.

Without me, my Familiar is useless. Without my Familiar, I am useless. I must train my Familiar true. I must train her harder than those that would try to destroy us, I must destroy them before they destroy us. I will...

My Familiar and I know that what counts in war is not the weapons we use, nor the noise of our roars, nor the armor we don, we know that it is the courage that counts, we will...

>>96687109
(cont'd)

My Familiar is Human, even as I am Human, because she is my life. Thus, I will learn her as a sister. I will learn her weaknesses, her strengths, her body, her mind, her instincts, her soul. I will guard her against the weather, disease, fear, and enemy attack as I would ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my Familiar clean and ready, as I am. I will...

Before God, I swear this Creed. My Familiar and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of our lives.

So be it, until victory is Mankind's and there is no enemy, but peace."]

[The Company Chaplain conducts the Holy Bond Ritual to the Handler and his Familiar in audience, and the Handler fastens the Holy Collar of Iron onto the Familiar's neck. The Company Chaplain then recites the Holy Rites and finishes by stating with invocation toward the audience, "And all of God's Children said..."]

[All in unison are to refrain: "Amen." Concluding the ceremony and The Handler's Creed]

>>96687115
(AD.)

I'm thinking there should be something between the Handler and Familiar for the Ritual, something simple I guess.

[During the Familiarization Ceremony the Familiar is to be knelt in in prayer on either knee, and before the Bond the Handler is to address to her the following: "Never will I leave you. Never will I forsake you. Rise with me, and we will win life."

>>96675504
>For boons I had considered ones among Collector, Family Man, Magical Training and Stealth
Why those specifically?

>>96545050
What are some monster girl breeds that haven’t shown up yet but that you really hope will soon? And do you have any thoughts on creating new monster girl types?

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>>96691258
I'd like to see a Quetzcoatl at some point. I'd also like to see a Frost Dragon.

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>>96583644
In my setting, my monster people are in fact split between Beasts and Elementals, with Beasts being the more wild monstrous ones and Elementals being more orderly and the distant ancestors of humanity. Their are overall equal in power, and locked in eternal rivalry (at least, some Beasts and some Elementals are obessed with waging war against the other people.)
Elementals of course include monsters based on every element, dragons, elves and other fey creatures. Their high tiers are based on old style polytheistic gods like the greek or japanese pantheon
Beasts are, well, based on animals, obviously. They tend to be less overtly magic. Their high tiers are based on kaijus and mythological monsters besides dragons.
They aren't all-female and don't have particular needs or wants to mate with humans (though of course monster-human relationships are still possible) but I developed them so much because I like monster girls

>>96545050
What are some ways to revamp some of the existing monster girl species?

>>96694468
I'd add new subspecies/cultures.

>>96691815
Besides the obvious, why those specifically?

>>96694468
Make them more racist toward each other.

>>96702867
>Make them more racist toward each other.
Why precisely?

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>>96700365
Because in my Warhammer Fantasy and MGE mashup, its version of Kislev and Amazons have Frost Dragons and Quetzcoatl as units but there is no official release of either yet.

>>96704525
Because having races interact with each other is the first step to actually building out a culture.

>>96689301
Those options might be advantageous for my choices of monster girls with focus on survivability, strategy and comfy lifestyle.

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>>96707293
Do you play Genshin Impact, Warhammer Fantasy Anon? Because the current and latest Nod Krai and maybe even Schneznaya might trigger your Warhammer Fantasy autism.

And maybbe take some Nod Krai, Schneznaya and Fatui content and elements and make it be the WHFxMGE Kislev and parts of the Empire.

>>96712478
I don't play gacha games for ethical reasons. It seems like you do play this particular one so could you give me a summary?

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>>96712756
NTA, but have a Tomb King who has been exposed to Mamono Mana.

>>96714525
Based. NTA, but thanks.

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I don't get the appeal of this MGW shit
>femdom, except not really
>rape, except not really
>the lamest interpretation of monstergirls in literally anything I've ever seen
>no actual stakes since the monstergirls are invincible, unstoppable, and also can't actually hurt humans
>setting already "solved" since any conflict is an inevitable flawless monstergirl victory
>everything has a diet primarily consisting of sperm
As someone who loves monstergirls, I fucking hate MGW. I don't really get who it's for save the saddest, most miserable of pathetic cucks

>>96549193
>dat bulge
I thought KC said no futas

>>96712756
>I don't play gacha games for ethical reasons.
Why is that now?

>>96714525
Are those claws or a gauntlet?

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>>96714525
She's dressed quite modestly for a Pharaoh.
>>96719750
One part is how predatory of a system gacha is. The other is how they are a grey goo, absorbing so many IPs and preventing them from having proper releases.
>>96717741
If you look in the Hellhound gallery, you'll find her nude art and she's all woman.

>>96717717
This thread is notorious for not following MGE lore because it's shit and removes all conflict. The trick is to just steal the pictures and make up the rest.

>>96722550
But even the pictures are shit

>>96722647
Are you sure? I think >>96596981 is beautiful.

>>96722692
>picks the one non-MGW pic in the thread
I rest my case

>>96717717
To be fair it is a rather comfy setting by definition as per the author's words.
There are, however, lots of possibilities of conflict as most monster girls are not invincible or unstoppable. They are more powerful than most humans, but that is why one establishes relationships with a few of them for protection in addition to the sexing and comfy harem fantasies.
That said, as others pointed out one is free to change stuff or just pick what they want.

>>96723127
>comfy
Not really the word I'd use to describe it.

>>96723648
You can be comfortably numb as your penis goes spurt spurt for any girl that fancies you.

>>96723648
Fair enough. What would be the word you'd use?

>>96726740
A dark fantasy that pretends to be a cum fantasy.

>>96728011
That seems to be somewhat at odds with what >>96717717 pointed out.
Not that it's 100% safe, but don't you think it's a rather not so dangerous world?

>>96728011
Perhaps I get your point now. You mean dark fantasy because of the overall demon energy slowly trying to take over that world and turning more and more people into monsters?

>>96728976
>>96730265
MGE is not a setting where you're likely to end up dead, but it is one where there is a strong chance of being raped and brainwashed. The deck is so stacked in favor of the rapists that their victory is inevitable.

>>96720920
>The other is how they are a grey goo, absorbing so many IPs and preventing them from having proper releases.
How is that now?

>>96734749
Have you heard of the Queen's Blade, Madoka Magica, Persona, and Senran Kagura gachas? That's what I'm talking about, gachas being successful for an inexplicable reason and companies preferring to just sit on the IP and put out power creep instead of actually making proper media.

>>96735692
But Madorka Magorka had an accompanying anime for the gacha. Also the gacha died.

>>96545050
How much “monster” and how much “girl” do you prefer, what’s your preferred ratio and why?

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>>96739115
100% Monster
100% Girl

Thank you.

>>96740828
Is this a Tech-Priestess?

>>96640643
i dont see what they could want with elves when they could water cactuses

>>96741295
no just a normal everyday tech preist
clearly a fearless one at that given the size of the batteries hes placed unarmored upon the chest
perhaps seeking martyrdome?

>>96739115
Just enough girl to tell that it's a girl and as much monster as possible.

>>96741569
It's a reference to the "elf slave, wat do?" meme as well as the concept of kajirae.

In your games, what would consequences would you describe to a player who is incapacitated but not killed by a monster such as a Drow or Succubus?

>>96741585
What monster girls fit your aesthetic specifically then?

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>Human ladyknight is dueling a Dullahan
>Ladyknight gets the upperhand and cuts the Dullahan's head off
>Thinking she won, she boasts about her victory
>The Dullahan uses the chance to cut the Ladyknight's head off
>Ladyknight is revived as a Dullahan

>>96731110
Good point.
Perhaps most admirers of MGE tend to imagine that the risk of rape by monster girls is not that bad. Realistically it could indeed get pretty bad, though.