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Rise! Rise! Awake from thy slumber and walk this earth once more! Revival of the Old Thread.

We talk about monster girls and build a setting for them. We can all post pics and images and art of Monster Girl Encyclopedia monster girls and talk about them, but bear in mind this is not KCs MGE canon to the letter. Seriously lads, a lot of people have their ideas and they aren't all the same, we can all agree to disagree. (Just remember to have fun!)

Warhammer Fantasy roleplay homebrew link:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-khJ4fE5v2MyrumyZoauEJ4VIucMO-kP1MGHNVtaDkc/edit

Dungeon World Monster Classes.
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnxUNkYKWeDtVtyPk8sYAiTsfwBwcNeC1DKg_0GTb8U/edit?usp=sharing

Genesys Monstergirl races:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/166447sk679VFybDfLoNwilCfYmtHZbCt3626u6BWPG0/edit

Monster Girl Adventures:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6DO3eO7T1pxFK7eoGT2QvEy2kZAW0MIQLnjhYZsVXg/edit?usp=sharing

Ideas from previous threads:
>https://pastebin.com/u/Famygdala
>https://pastebin.com/u/ASimpleLegionnaire
>https://pastebin.com/u/Vapid_Vulture
>https://pastebin.com/u/DiplomacyAnon
>https://monstergirlencyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Ilniaj

Wikis for popular monster girl settings:

Monster Musume (Everyday Life with Monster Girls):
>http://dailylifewithamonstergirl.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Monster_Girls_Wiki

Monster Girl Encyclopedia:
>https://mgewiki.moe/index.php/Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia
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>>84377587

Heyo Diplomacyanon, its Promyanon. I actually haven't been on in VERY fucking hot minute as I've been hit with a multitude of RL trains, so if you talked to anyone you thought might have been me... might not have been the case. I messaged you back on Pastebin if you ever wanted to take a gander and hit it up with me again.

Honestly to nip it in the bud and squash the beef, I just wasn't vibing with your suggestion because, frankly, I'm new to this game-making stuff. I've *RUN* games, but not built them from scratch. So you really do have to explain game mechanics to me like I'm five sometimes. Also I wasn't vibing with what seemed like an odd insistence on mamono being violent and hostile to humans but humans not being able to be violent and hostile back because they can just no-sell it(psychologically). I'll elaborate further on this with Ogre-chan(I didn't finish my point before and it was slightly bugging me).

To harken back to the transcripts on record(if you would, Court Recorder...) I originally thought you were just giving a bonus/buff to Lizard-chan for free. I will say though that, frankly, I'm not sold on the <Human 'Buffet' during Character Point-Buy> to be adequate enough compensation for Monsters getting a free Bonus... Reason being PCs are notoriously shit at going with their gut and buying myopic and backhanded buffs and powers that are easily exploitable by the GM... at least imo.

But I can play ball with it because I think I've come up with an adequate compromise: The '4-Set' if you recall is 4 different Stimuli that Mamono have that are:

1. Similar to Human Behaviors to an effective degree
2. Exploitable by even the most Chumpiest and Pathetic Stated of Human PCs and NPCs

I think I may have forgot to mention, which added to the confusion, that I was thinking on all mamono having a 'centralized' and identical 4-set and then a species specific 4-set that would not overlap but be superseded by the centralized 4-set.
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>>96545249
(cont.)
The Centralized 4-set that all Mamono would have was:

Positive Punishment(Behavior Corrective): Pain and Violence
Positive Reward(Behavior Reinforcement): Pleasure and Sex
Negative Punishment(Behavior Restrictive): Energy Starvation
Negative Reward(Behavior Tolerating): Freedom and Exposure

These would not be superseded but complimented by the species-specific 4-Set of Behavioral Stimuli. Mechanically this would effectively mean that Lizardman can have their Marine Corps Hymn Against Pain Buff... UNLESS a Hooman triggers the Positive Punishment of EITHER the Lizard's 4-set or her Mamono 4-Set. Humans, upon triggering the Mamono 4-set PP can universally paunch Lizard-chan and make her suffer the Painbow. Lizards effectively can do their Berzerker Chant all they want but once a Human turns on the Central PP, it does a 'Bypass' of their buff. Essentially Lizards can go Berzerk... until they get their shit punched out by Johnny Hugh Mann.

Humans would get access to these 2 4-sets for free and can be used automatically as physical circumstances permit(you cant paunch Lizard-chan if you have no arms, etc.)

Savvy what I'm putting down? Ironically you assumed before I was making a Mamono vs Human game, it honestly wasn't my intention. Apoloigies for the confusion agian. It was indeed a cooperative setting between Humans and Mamono *but Mamono could go into wild phases and have to fight attempting to attack their human comrades*, in exchange for this Humans had access to the 2 x 4-Sets. The Trigger is free of charge and automatic, requiring no ritual the human has to perform.
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>>96545257
(cont.)
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To segue to Ogre-chan and the aforementioned point, I wanted to put the nail in the coffin of the 'Egalitarian/likes violence and slavery no matters whose doing it' Ogre by citing that KC has directly dissuaded the notions of using hyperbolic rhetoric to the monster profiles:

From his Q&As:

>Additionally, We Japanese value the contexts of sentences rather than what is written literally. It is called "言葉の綾(kotoba no aya)". For example, if MGE says "Men who have sex with MGs become impossible to think except for sex with them", it an expression which intends to describe how attractive the sex with MGs is. It doesn't mean that all of them LITERALLY become unable to think except for sex.(But if they wish, they can do that) This seems to be one of the "gaps" KC tried to explain years ago.

>KC also put another nail in the coffin of grimdark interpretations by explaining in more detail how hyperbolic the settings are, and also how the Wandering Scholar is not meant to give perfectly accurate information all the time.

To answer your tongue-in-cheek retort: Who said her green ass doesn't run from fights and that doing so means she can cope and tell herself she didn't lose...?

I agree that finite shit is finite, but this must inherently mean there is a finite level of violence Ogre-chan can psychologically take including getting 'Paunched'. Simple as.
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>>96545305
(cont.)
At the end of the day, I'm fine with Ogre-chan being able to take a punch or such, I'm fine with her being a pillaging rampaging rape-hungry slaver lunatic. But there DEFINITELY needs to be physically violent and vicious ways to make her suffer to take up the slack. Ya know? Part of me is thinking that NON-Combat Violence will be her Species-specific 4-set PP, specifically any and all forms of traditional and modern physical torture. Ogre-chan can keep fighting all day but once she's restrained and the calipers, scalpel, car battery and clamps come out... she is NOT going to be a happy camper. Nifty, eh?

inb4 Oh noes Promyanon is Marquis de Sade! In all honestly I'm really not... It really just stems from establishing a physical-psychological profile that is fair, takes humans seriously, takes what humans take seriously... seriously, and feels like a fair fight for even the Chumpiest of Humans.

In all honesty this took more time to type than it did to think about, its a simple mechano-narrative plug-and-play. Neat dont you think?


>>78849571
>>78857807

Interesting...

>Dressage[...]mamono mind-screw is just Dressage under a species-contextual circumstance, it only needs to be fit to the same mechanic. So attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface.

By 'attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface' do you mean attempted mindbreak(by humans) to avoid rape(by mamono)? That would be Dressage as Dressage is inherently Human behaviors that Mamono find to be inherently hazardous to their Psychological health(at varying intensity and such). Good on you for giving it the college try.
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A day has come, that this thread arises anew.
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Salamanders and lizardwomen are glory hogs, so they should at most be medium infantry.
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>>96545858
I like the idea of a high salamander warboss from ones that survive the high attrition rate.
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>>96545050
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6DO3eO7T1pxFK7eoGT2QvEy2kZAW0MIQLnjhYZsVXg/edit?usp=sharing

This link's dead yo.
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In the end our raid succeed, the /JP/'s thread is dead and all those faggots migrated to an alt chan and they lost almost every writefags
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>>96547663
No one raided anything.
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>come back to 4chan for the first time in years
>/mgw/ is back
Is this a sign? Have I travelled back in time? Did the Palibros win?

What have I missed, anons?
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>>96548145
It is a sign, of better things to come.
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>>96548448
I like it. Monster girl discussion can get so dry in some places.
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>>96548145
The thread on /jp/ is dying thanks AI slop and mass migration to an alt chan. /vg/ and the thread on the porn board are dead dead. We can shine once more and rise to the top
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>>96548662
>We can shine once more and rise to the top
Not so fast, bucko
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I will make monstergirl sex illegal and a lot of people can and probably will stop me.
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>>96548949
>a lot of people can and probably will stop me.
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>>96545312
(cont.)

>>78857807
>My hack would convert Stress from Corruption into a specific Consequence: Too Horny/Crazy. Then it would be up for being toggled by anyone. I'd throw a rule of allowing a save for every attempt at flipping the switch.

Hmm, interdasting. I was actually looking at Fate the other day, ironically. But if I were to use this sort of modification you recommend for Fate, there ought to be an equal and opposite Consequence-Stress 'Matrix'(I guess would be the term?) for being Too Horny/Crazy.

'Too Crazy/Horny' needs to not just come with a moral dilemma(inherently obvious if you aren't a b l o c k h e a d) but more importantly an ammoral dilemma(inherently decreases the physical or psychological competence of the Monster PC). This is because in my literal experience there will be players who dont give a shit about the moral dilemma and/or actively seek it(murder/rapehobory/players that play evil characters, etc.).

On a tangent 'Crazy' to me inherently means a loss of competence over some sort of cultural taboo, which is meaningless to me in a setting with literal societal corruption, amorally they're not crazy they're just superior ubermensch(4 u). How's that saying go? 'If its stupid but it works better, it isn't stupid.' Rape is only evil according to human morals...

Therefore I think I would have it where the Consequence system needs to have both a moral side(rape lunacy) and an amoral incompetence side(combat incompetence) for me to effectively consider this seriously. OH WOULD YA LOOK AT THAT I HAVE THE 2 X 4 SET. *Fanfare*

I'm thinking the Positive Behavioral Stimuli(very ironically named PBS) will be based on amoral competence(Introduce pain or violence, introduce pleasure or sekshual intercourse) and the Negative Behavioral Stimuli will be based on moral dilemmas(rape and rape accessories)/ Alternatively the amora incompetence nerfs could be the Centralized Mamono 4-set while the moral dilemmas are the Species Specific 4-set
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>>96550994
(cont. into the sun)

Now one could ask: "Why not make moral consequences get punished by the universe?"

Honestly did consider it... briefly. Frankly, having God literally smite Mamono for being Crazy Rapists is just kind of lame from where I stand. Why have them be rapists at all? Just have The OverMan Prometheus-kun Thanos Snap his fingers and oh no more rapists~!

Nah dats gay, backing morality with meta-physical powers is just poopy and lame-sauce in every time I've seen it tried, but that could just be my preference in Settings and Games.. I cut my teeth on Delta Green baby with my fellow EMTs and Paramedics and ER Murses, the only moral backing you get for defending yourself from a mindrape-hungry tentacle monster is a 10mm bullet to its Polyp ass, or failing that, a 9mm bullet to your own head to 'Go to Your God like a Soldier'.

To me, a Good Ending is preferable to your character sheet getting utterly humiliated but granted life... there are fates much worse than GAME OVER...

Anyway where was I? Oh yeah, Diplomacyanon I'm honestly at a loss at why you adamantly refuse to grant Mamono rape and sex powers and making them sacrifice combat competence in exchange. *MGE is LITERALLY about powers based on rape and smex, my man.*

Honestly I can roll with Mamono Rape Powers... *as long as humans can hit them where it hurts literally*. Tit for Tat makes for AMAZING gameplay.
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>>96551100
(cont. into the stars)
Addendum.

I guess I should say for the sake of it just because I want humans to be able to back their shit up themselves by physical/psychological force and not requiring no fancy-smancy Acts of God or GM, that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to get to super edgy misery porn either. I know I've mentioned torture and stuff but I would hope that you can infer that I mean the punishment would be tonally relevant to how edgy the behavioral models are for Monsters, Humans, and etc.

As we've talked about before Diplomacyanon, neither of us are seeking a '''magical realm''' all things considered, but at the same time I want Humans to not just be on all ends of the power spectrum(and in-between), I want even the Chumpiest of ain't-shit statted Hairless Apes to at least have the CHANCE to lay the suffering-train via violence on a Rape-crazed Ogre that just broke into your house.

Even if Chumpman gets absolutely obliterated because his stats are a dumpster fire, at least he has the ability to fight to begin with... Not even my 2 x 4 Set guarantees victory if you fuck up the dice rolls.. The trigger just allows *access* to employ pain and pleasure, it doesn't guarantee you'll wipe the floor with your opponent if they out-level you.

This all said, I totally would like a 'ripcord' so that Chumpman doesn't get absolutely bodied by Ogre-chan, how that would be implemented is up in the air at the moment...
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>make monstergirl army in Midgard
>or obscure 90s fantasy ruleset
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>>96545312

>>78857807
>>This can be fixed to settings via specified Consequences. Promyanon had a system for the differential response to Corruption. It varied btwn A & I. Funnily, both could use the same mechanic. Iirc, Humans had to process Corruption via doing Dressage on mamono, or becoming memewizards. Since mamono mind-screw is just Dressage under a species-contextual circumstance, it only needs to be fit to the same mechanic. So attempted mindbreak to avoid rapeface.

Rereading to elaborate, if by ‘memewizards’ you mean ‘mamono equivalent to what humans would consider rapeface’, you’d be right. Humans commenced Dressage on Mamono to burn off corruption or failing that, would exhibit behaviors that Mamono would find terrifying and ‘equivalent to rape’.

This was the two sides of Dressage essentially, one that was a special form of Behavioral Bond, the other violent enslavement of Mamono.

This worked for me because I needed to find something that was the equivalent of Mamono ‘Rapeface’ as you would put it.

So if Mamono had mindbreak(rape husbandry) and Rapeface… Humans would have mindbreak(Dressage) and damning Mamono to a life of slavery. (And before you ask, yes it would bypass Turtle-chans appreciation of servitude)
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>>96551526
(Cont.)
AD.

…unless you mean Mamono ‘attempted mindbreak’ on themselves? Rereading again I’m not sure what you had in mind here… it sounds like you want Mamono to be attempting to mindbreak humans to avoid raping humans… these are quite literally one and the same? Not sure what you mean here by ‘Mindbreak’.


Dressage itself had multiple variants I went through, but if you mean ‘Mindbreak’ as in ‘Literal Brainwashing’ than we’re back to my Holy Terror version of Dressage where the ‘carrot’ humans gave Mamono was humiliating slavery and the ‘stick’ humans gave them was violent torture that bypassed any psychological buffs Mamono could try to defend themselves with. Probably one of my more darker models of Dressage desu, but this was when we were pondering Mamono just literally murdering and eating humans so I mean… fair is fair.
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I came into this thread wanting sexy monstergirls roleplaying and instead got strange pseudophisolophy ramblings and namefagging of old drama. I am 22 and what is this.
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>>96551832
Post something Monster Girl related then.
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What would monsters think of fashion that imitates their features?
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>>96547449
Thank, will change it next thread
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>>96551947
I have to imagine significantly flattered and possibly thinking that you are trying to get her to notice you in particular.

>Roman Velites running around wearing Wolf skin and hides.
>Wolf-Girls: Gods I wish that were me
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>>96551999
This has to be correct because trips
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>>96551947
>I'm not a costume!
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>>96552118
Aren't there 2 or 3 that are wearable?
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>>96551329
Do a little of both and see what gets more mileage for yourself.
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>>96553139
I don't think anyone's heard of Fantasy Rules! for the better part of two decades.
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>>96551832
>wanting sexy monstergirls roleplaying and instead got strange pseudophisolophy ramblings and namefagging of old drama
Welcome to /mgw/!
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Maid should be the basis of a Monstergirl roleplaying game. Essentially roll up an OC and fuck around with her for an hour with your friends and their random OCs.
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I like monster girls. I want monster girls in my adventuring party.
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>>96557356
As long as they have a dice roll to rape you and reduce your stamina.
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>>96557427
That's only when we go back to the Inn or camping
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A few years back I stumbled upon the CYOA Monstergirl Survival Allies and spent some time wondering about such a world and optimizing to increase both survivability and sexing.
Each potential mate had stats (mostly with subjective but in one version with objective values) for armor, attack, magic strength, magical armor etc.

Granted, it's not the exact same world as MGE, but most if not presumably all monstergirls are there and AFAIK its isekai reality kinda has less civilization in the world and allows for other human isekai drop-ins to exist simultaneously. I might be confusing details, though, as the MGE itself is not that fresh in my mind either.

That CYOA had a few versions and most had you choose between a few monstergirls and powers. Was quite entertaining for a while (until I realized I had better use my time elsewhere, lol).
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>>96552951
From what I remember:
>living armor
>not wearable per se, but giant almost indestructible slug that keeps dude safely guarded in her mouth either in place of her tongue or tied to it
Might be more monster girls that apply.
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>>96556249
This is a very good idea. Simplified the mechanics immensely. I mean, maids want to do to Master what monstergirls want to do to human males in the same way.

>>96557427
Stress in Maid can easily be renamed as Stamina.

>>96558945
Post'em if you got'em.
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Has anyone played Monster Girl Adventures: Classic or Revised(ReMonstered)?

I am running a game for Classic with a few modifications(read: many modifications). Other than it being unfinished and having a bit of TTRPG autism, it's been functional

The main changes are as follows: Health, Willpower, Damage, Spellcasting (largely the same), and Status Effects.

It seemed easier to get rid of SD(Space Distance) and simplify things to use Zones rather than arbitrary ranges.
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>>96562253
I'm afraid I don't have the files, but a quick search for 'CYOA Monster Girl Survival Allies' led to two or three of the latest versions. Dunno which of them is the best one, though. I'll investigate it carefully later.
Also, not sure if posting those here in /tg/ would be ok since it has some loli content from the MGE.
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>>96562992
Thanks, anon. You can't post PDFs here any more so just post some links and 4chan doesn't care what's at the end of them.
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>>96548662
Non-Futa Monster Girl thread on /d/ isn't dead. Just checked.
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>>96564979
It gets like 2 posts per day and most of it is just silent image dumping, nothing happens there so you might as well consider it dead.

Hell, even the /jp/ thread on skeleton crew is orders of magnitude more active.
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>>96564186
No problem.
One could potentially find that CYOA >>96558945 in:
https colon slash slash imgur dot com slash gallery slash monstergirl-survival-allied-3-0-6JESY (v3.0)
https colon slash slash i.4pcdn dot org slash tg slash 1426165787246 dot pdf (v3.1)
https colon slash slash imgchest dot com slash p slash qb4zwelg4jm (v4.1.1)
Haven't had a chance to check them out properly, so still not sure which version is the best.



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