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>>96547410https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760Wanderer above the Sea of Fog (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96537391Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493315The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518359Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
>>96547430Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015He'el (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Thaumaradrak (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990Lady, the Academy Meister (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991Daemon ex Machina (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96516984Holy Father (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96528241Balor of the Evil Eye https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96532772Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
>>96547437Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351Time Traveler (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96522774Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671The Curse Slinger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493657Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493201Paxtinger, Dragon God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96497495/#96503070Fucking Robot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96522237Onze Yesod https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96522744True Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96516997Unnotable Guy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518022
>>96547446Vratislav (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518373Blood Priestess https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96527658Scourge of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96528560Immortal Pixie Garland https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96529021Nlo, Commander of the First Imperial Host https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96532886Izeth-from-Stygia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#965347650^0 Kill Speedrun Any% (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96535458Ewokai (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96535460Useful Humilitas (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96538697Daath https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96539471Gabaar, of the Krazy Komet Klan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96541258/#96541580The "Last One" https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96541258#96545134Xi ya later megabitch https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96541258#96545282
>>96547430>My build isn't on the listIt's okay I didn't want to play with you guys anyway.
>>96547430Update to Unnotable Lich. I added Evdokia as companion, and removed 2 Uruk encounters.I made a rentry for it,https://rentry.co/5q6bvwvrRemoved Malice: from Du'umRemoved Malice: from GwrielAdded Malady: Wereplague lvl 1Removed Gift: Unburnt HideRemoved Gift: Azure WreathRemoved Gift: Martial InstinctChanged Death Letter: Removed Zhivete from Unnotable FatherAdded Companion: Evdokia, with death Zelo + Zhivete(Modified Language Bonus: -1 free mentor slot for Simplified Duergar)Removed Encounter: A Hop, A Lean, A HobgoblinRemoved Encounter: A Band of OgresAdded Encounter: Let The Purgations Begin <Evdokia>Removed Perk: Burn the Future x4
>>96547471Which build is it? Sorry about that, I only checked ones from the last thread that replied to the first page of the cyoa.
Uruk Necromancer enters your tide and kills Charlie in a mere 10-15 yearshow do you stop the Undead Horde?
>>96547488It was from 20+ threads ago it's fine
Once again I will ask. How do you deal with a caster who can use your own hair against you? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=evv0TtBpI0Q&pp=ygULQXVudCBnbGFkeXM%3D
>>96547430animated OR maps from 2 threads ago
>>96547526
>>96547525By not making something that busted? It’s that easy. Stop making casters OP.
>>96547525Bald GODS win again.
>>96547525My devotion to Gil-kun renders petty, mortal trifles moot.
>>96547525Kill them obviously
Ultimate god, where are you?
>>96547511I curse all Uruks with Meandering Thoughts, then bless them with Enochian Brand. Then I remember that Uruks are brainless homunculi, so this does nothing.
>>96547581Ultimate god is not available right now. This is local god responding. How are your crops? Are the beets healthy? Need help with pest repellence charms?
>>96547556Gil is bald?
>>96547588Can I get 2 large blessings with a side of divine intervention?
Core > Phase > Flow > Alchemy
>>96547640Replace the ">" with "<" and that's correct.
>stealing someone’s hair is overpowered nowJesus Christ
>>96547525just shrug it off with your superior strength and will and bonk them on the head
>>96547653Depends on what you can do with the hair. Causing warts to appear is just a lot annoying.
>>96547653Your Samson?
>>96547649I would rank itAlchemy > Phase > Core > Flow
>>96547525This was actually a good movie. Loved the ending humor to it. It was like some classical fairy tale, and the wicked witch got what she deserved ripped apart by the seventeen kids she sought to enslave/consume. “Oh god”, yeah you old bitch you’re about to meet Him LMAO.
>>96547649No fuck you, Alchemy is lame. Relying on poitions, items and drawing sigils over just using nothing but your mitts sucks. I could just flush your backpack of shit down the toilet then shove you in a locker nerd.
>>96547662The fat Asian tried that and he vomited out black sludge
>>96547628Very well, faithful anon.>LARGE BLESSING 1You will not age during this day.>LARGE BLESSING 2When haggling for prices of poultry for your chicken coop, I grant you much improved outcomes for the entire next year.>DIVINE INTERVENTIONShould a group of aggressive wild hogs surround you, I will scare them away. The hogs are not so tough as they try to appear. After all, they haven't earned any of this.Go now, and spread the good word.
>>96547708skill issue
>>96547674The flow hate is crazy, its by far the most flexible discipline and if you do the obvious thing and buy the pinnacle transformation for your main affinity then you can do beam spam to a level none of the affinities can match. It also has the coolest comboes with stuff like medium sublimation, extension and expansion.
>>96547511Yphont solos.
If casters are given strong ass shit then they should be given mandatory drawbacks like “you’re destined at some point to be defeated in an embarrassing and painful way”.
>>96547709Much obliged Satan
>>96547732Yphont is good for only one thing.
>>96547733Just beat up a caster it's not hard.
just be strong enough to overcome the magic
>>96547410So, 11th, are you White or Blue?
>>96547733>“you’re destined at some point to be defeated in an embarrassing and painful way”.And that’s exactly what happened to the witch
>>96547772>just flex away atoms anon, I believe in you!
>>96547776Part of Chervonolin heist team.
>>96547776Chartreuse
>>96547794KEK
>>96547776I'm Red, White, and Blue.The Exarchate has failed to uphold proper Ameriburger culture. I will see to it that it is restored.
>>96547776I'm whichever will get the Exarchate on board with the Kingdom of All Humans V2, this time with beastfolk, Elves, and Majin
>>96547794Correct.
>>96547759And thats love.
>No Outsider other than Tuzik got ThoroughbreedingMost unbelievable part of OR, it’s easily the best Gift.
>>96547424ur build still sucks btw
>>96547723this is not really a power ranking more of a preference thing Alchemy just has superior utility to everything, Phase is good for stealth and stealth is pretty much the best tool for surviving and potentially attacking, core just has some good body mods and shapeshifting, flow is just too offense oriented and energy hungry for my taste
>>96547813Sounds like Crown-of-the-Outside Blue to me. The Empire is pretty much that.
>>96547828Take it and breed Paxxia.
>>96547776The Conciliation movement
total muddish supremacy
>>96547828The elder gods like using your own children to fuck you over sometimes
>>96547857Remember that the Old Throne spent centuries getting raped by the Southlander hordes despite having infinite retries and mechs.
>thoroughbreedingGifts aren't as good as you think, skills are better.
>>96547705It makes cool chimeras, and makes you a super spirit. A whole new realm of pussy while you are still on the ground.
>>96547876That's why I'm passing down all the mind and sense gifts
>>96547708>fatThere's the problem.
>>96547873>but the violent barbarians have numbers!And?
>>96547879It's also the only successful path to immortality
>>96547889And a proven success record
>>96547876Thoroughbreeding takes ONE POINT, it’s a steal.
>>96547857The only time this race didn't job was when an Outsider was one of them, nice one mudslimes.
>>96547897The humans in Doria are massive jobbers, they all needed Outsiders to hard carry into relevance. Except for the Tumen, absolute madmen.
>>96547525I HATE WITCHESI HATE WITCHESI HATE WITCHES
>>96547879>Doing it for pussyWeak
>>96547857Lost to Inga.Lost to Keter.Lost south-western Doria to DKMDR.Jdan's son plans to sell out his father and kingdom to Charlie.
Who jobs the most, m*ddish or dr*gons?
>>96547936True Dragons by a lot
>>96547897>>96547932>ROME JOBBED TO BARBARIANS SO BARBARIANS ARE BETTER!!!!The Old Throne is the oldest surviving civilization in OR btw
>>96547936M*dfish win on quantity, TRVE JOBBER GODS on quality.
>>96547135Are people overstating the Enochian Brand explosion thing? From reading the option it sounds like it only happens if you enunciate spells in your head while not understanding their Meaning, and it also needs you to actively focus to trigger the gift working. So don't focus on casting while reading spells until/unless you understand what the spell Means.
>>96547941>oldest surviving civilization in OR btwThat's tumen.
>>96547957Tumen are TRUE MEN
>>96547951It's only a problem if you're dumb enough to take it with Meandering Thoughts. Only a few anons think Enochian Brands is a trap option by itself.
>>96547897Darina is Muddish and she has the most consistent winning record of anyone, hundreds of years of busting the nightmare dungeon every second of every day.
>>96547957the tumen are a race, not a civilization
>>96547951>>96547965And Attentiveness is specifically geared for this as well.
>>96547640>>96547674>>96547723I love Flow but my biggest problem with it is that the group dedicated to teaching Flow techniques (so if you want to learn more) are a bunch of fucking monks. Who the hell wants to be a monk and swear off doing anything fun for the rest of your life to praise Buddha, just so you can shoot lasers? I just wanted to shoot lasers.
>>96547941The Elven-Government-In-Exile mogs them by 7000+ years or so.
>>96547975Elven Erasure... Nice to see Muddish anon is Charlie's strongest soldier
>>96547857Brown hair is ugly.
>>96547966>Darina is MuddishSecret Rzheite.
>>96547966Outlier that shouldn't be taken into account
>>96547975The Firstborn Empire got giga nuked like 20 years ago (thanks KETER). What you have now is a loose grouping of the few surviving Elves from Orthrung. The Orthrung continent had many nations and this encompasses the remains of all of them. It is in no way a continuation of the Firstborn Empire, they barely controlled half of the continent when it got nuked.
Muddish could benefit in the next Update from getting some colonial holdings in Mamet back (like entire northern part of Mamet) with a number of tempered characters expanding their roster and few more extra materials about their warmachinas.
Muddish are held back by warmachina crutches. It’s no surprise that the strongest Muddish reached her potential without a warmachina.
>uruk chads survived the nukeAre Uruk the only non-jobbers in the setting?
>>96547966>nightmare dungeonYawn. Call me when they don't job against a named, relevant faction, with actual characters, not just some nameless token monsters.
>>96548018Them and the daemonhunt
>>96548003>The Muddish got a massive glowup in the update and now have more special snowflake characters than everyone else, including many that almost every picks like Jdan and Dobrova>Anon is over here demanding they get given even MORE shitHow about fuck no?
>>96548003>Muddish got buffed in this update, with Tankista even worrying that he gave them too much stuff>Still crying for more buffsTypical Muddish, always crying for handouts(from Vtorusha), failing to capitalize on them, then crying for more buffs to make up for it.
>>96548018>Charlie turned entire mountain into uruk cuck chair and they can't leave
>>96548023Sir? Your Longest March?
>>96548045They don’t count because majin aren’t real people.
>muddish and dragons are jobbersAnd what about the Dwarves? We're they ever even relevant to begin with? Or are they just there because there must be Elves and Dwarves in every fantasy setting?
>>96548052Yet Uruk are?
>>96548055irrelevant elephantsalthough they built the underground keeps so that's cool
>>96548055They are Poluden's version of Firstborn Empire but even more incompetent.
>>96548055Their kingdom on Poluden was one of the longest lived and most stable empires until the Morlocks took it over. They're overthrown now, but the Gnomes lead the rebellion so they put themselves on top and knocked the Dwarves down with the Halflings and Kobolds (which technically means nobody is discriminating against them but the Gnomes use nepotism to ensure they're at the top of every guild) then it got absorbed in the Ecumene so it's not theirs anymore. They really just have a couple surface cities (not Sytgia, the Majin took that over thanks to Jarnigit) on Mamet to their name now.
>>96548055>what about the Dwarves?Wrecked the Eternal Empire, making Yphont a jobber.
>>96548026I forgot that Dobrava is Muddish.She has redeemed them.
>>96547951>>96547965I'm adding Enochian Brand and Wereplague x1 to Daath.You still have sentience and all your gifts in animal form, and with Enochian Brand I can still cast spells even without being able to talk. It's only 12 hours a month and arguably could be used as an advantage for stealth/scouting.
>>96548091>making Yphont a jobber.Yphont didn't help them with that war; she left because they disillusioned her and broke her faith in diplomacy.
>>96548070It was a Dei joke. The Long March is cool too.
>>96548097She's an exception, pretty much all races have at least one person who's not an useless and pathetic jobber.
>>96548097Sadly I couldn't take her, there's too many characters I'd like to have adventures with and not enough companion slots. Her backstory also only works if you pick her so she'll probably be a nobody or dead without being picked.
>>96548097Dobrava and Darina are singlehandedly carrying Muddish stocks, curious how both of their hax have nothing to do with the Old Thrones stuff.
>>96548106They dismantled her life's work, she lost.
>>96548091>sabotage negotiations because of their greed>get wrecked by Yphont's companions>Yphont gets tired of politics after death of her friends in Kingdom of All Humans and goes to crush uruks for revenge
>>96548119>dismantled her life's workStop stealing Erginter's valor.
>>96548122>sabotage negotiations because of their greed>get wrecked by Yphont's companionsI wouldn't call the dwarves rejecting getting rolled over into the empire and making Yphont cry valid causes to launch an unprovoked attack against them.The Eternal Empire also lost that war.
>>96548122Yphont failed at negotiation and leadership. Her empire was then defeated in a war they started.
Kinda like how this update added so many goated low-cost companions.
>>96548144Making Yphont cry is true dragon level evil.
>>96548174I didn't want to say it, because it's not what Yphont would want, but this anon speaks the truth.
Uruk can be adopted. What's the funniest parent to get adopted by as an Uruk?
>>96548172Some of them are too good.
>>96548174She literally folded like wet paper the minute a true dwarven (elf) girl called her out on her naive belief that they all could join hands and be friends.Reminder that Strokrad teaches Ayawin magic, meaning that not only are oaths stronger than weak words, but that they also give you enough strength to beat up all manners of elves.
>>96548205Marsaget
>>96548205>Forbids usage of Adoption perk
>>96548205>Uruk can be adopted.It literally forbids you from picking Adoption. Why can no one read?
>>96548207The idiot elf got herself killed in her relentless chasing for material profit and gain. 'Realpolitik' my ass.
>>96548225>>96548221Alright well then what's the funniest True Love for an Uruk?
>>9654824211thHe's so cute
>>96548225Too much fapping
>>96547410>"Gabaar, of The Krazy Komet Klan" REWORKED>Patron God: O^O>Reincarnation: Burn The Future x6 +8d +26aUntimeskip, BenewhisperDice Fudge, BarbosOuter Tide>Father: The Horde +13d +31a>Race: Uruk>Languages: Insular, Benewhisper +12d>Location: Mamet Interior>Inborn Gifts: Bitter Sickness +35aMeandering Thought +38aThorough-breeding +37aMemory Retention +35aWisdom +33aIntelligence +31aAttentiveness +29aSpiritual Feel +27aCaster Intuition +25aNoble Inclination +23aAll-Glimpse +18aIcon of Icons +13aBlazing Seal +10aEnochian Brand +8aMagician's Hands x2 +2aDream Passage x2 +0aInhumanity>Mentors: Barbos +10dPukluxun +6d>Companions: Zhuchka +3dMocnaeth, Tutored, Benewhisper +0dNilmatrix>Encounters: On Full Stomach, BarbosHidden Amidst The Clouds, PukluxunWild and Wilder, ZhuchkaRemember About Death, MocnaethShadow of God, Nilmatrix>Death: Buki, (You)Cherv, BarbosShta, PukluxunZelo, ZhuchkaQoppa, Mocnaeth>Youth: TravelingPower TestingJourney of The SelfPandaemonium>Quest: Ameno"I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O I Hate O^O " - First Shaman of The Comet, Deep in trance
Other races won't take care of Uruks, but Uruks will take care of other races. Yet more proof that Uruks are good guys.They even taught Barsik magic. Somehow.
>>96548233The only idiots were Yphont's companions, all they had to do was either wait or help her get over dealing with a politician, and everything would've been fine. Instead, they decided to betray her ideals by attacking first and proving the elf girl right.>>96548242All the rulers
>>96548242Keter because she'll be aware of it and since she's from earth, she will know you're trying to use her in playing out some hentai
>>96548260You spawn in as an adult; you don't need anyone to take care of you.
>>96548263That's the danger of making everyone love you, some people end up yandere and try to kill anyone who makes you sad.
>>96548263>All the rulersHmm... I could marry one and become the world's first legitimate Uruk King...
>>96548260I thought that was ironic, and it meant he had to constantly fight off Uruks, which trained his skills and character
>>96548295No, true love all of them
>>96548253>Thorough-breedingBut why?
If you guys want actual Orcs and Goblins with functioning wieners you should use Thaumiel's nightmare magic to create them instead, make your own custom monsters with souls who breed true and confuse everyone.
>>96548301>he had to constantly fight off UruksThe first all Uruk encounter build. Anons who take them all should take him so they have a dad who knows what they're getting into.
>>96548320>You have to fight a Gremlin at six and you're worried? Son, your dear old dad killed his first Gremlin at three years-old, no son of mine is going to struggle at taking one out at twice that age. You've got this.
the cannon build is JNPL mom, One adoption, Keter mentor, Icon of Icons, and E Nomine
>>96548386The canon build is whichever one mine is because I'm the true holder of the Eleventh Seat
>>96548305To make a clan of other shamans
>>96548386nah, the real cannon build is where you take Liberta team up with Rhucuphre and screw up the world even more for the 12th outsider
>>96548421Thoroughbreeding doesn't work with Inhumanity spawning, and that's the only way Uruk can reproduce.
>>96548386The canon build is whichever is the most autistic.
>>96548386You forgot Omega and Buki
>>96548305He probably thinks it works with mudding Uruks up or that he has a functional reproductory system of an hentai rape Orc.
>>96548386>>96548422>cannon
>>96548499Did cannons exist in OR? Eg on skyships?
>>96548512Yes, the Northerner race description mentions cannonballs among other places.
>>96548512Yes, it's late renaissance tech level outside of a few fantasy/outsider exceptions.
>>96548512I don't remember off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure if the Ecumene has muskets they have cannons, which would be easier to develop under Earth physics and presumably Charlotte's fake-physics. There also could be a warmachina that does something similar. Maybe one based on jet kick?
>musketsJust make a magic railgun. The base construction is literally just two rails and an armature, and electricity magic should be easy too. Making a barrel and gunpowder is way harder in comparison. You could even use dwarven runes so that the plebs could use em.
>>96548606>plebsWhy would I help the props?
>>96547951>>96547965>It's only a problem if you're dumb enough to take it with Meandering Thoughts.And with Caster Intuition or if you learn how to cast spell the hard way and the Meaning of one withotu dealing with Meandering Thoughts first.
>>96548428Then let it be the goal of the build, to make urks a full race. Not mud-men with no souls
>>96548606The problem with simple railguns is that the magnetism of the rails bends the metal, so only one or a few shots can be used before it becomes useless. We're working on solutions to that right now, but the solutions aren't as simple as the base technology itself.
>>96548744Then they'd no longer be Uruks
>>96548739Anon, it specifically requires you to mentally enunciate the spell WHILE focusing on casting for it to trigger. Caster Intuition and actually knowing spells don't force you to automatically focus on casting spells you don't know the Meaning of.
>>96548755Certainly true, but materials science becomes a lot easier in a world with magic. For example, you could just use panarmament to summon a fresh railgun once the rails are shot.
>>96548757They'd be the Greenskins!
>>96548788Gifts are rare. While someone with Panarmament 2 can do that, you can't really scale that up to a military level because of how few people will have Panarament 2. So such things end up being one guy's gimmick or personal trick and end up dying with him, rather than effecting how nations operate.
>>96548757>>96548802>This is an Orc>This is an Uruk>Know the difference, it could save your life!
>>96548744You need to give them a dick for that. No it's not gay, it's for uplifting.
>>96548833>them, plural>a dick, singularorcdickfag...
>>96548862A dick is necessary for sentience. JNPL said so.
>>96548875How'd she know? She doesn't have one. Right?
>>96548898>going through every story to ascend>she doesn't have a dickLMAO
Are muskets the funniest weapon, historically? Horrible accuracy and everyone panics when they’re reloading, and everyone is moving like ten feet closer every turn, until everyone is screeching and stabbing each other (very rarely will a bullet from a musket hit you).
the fact that black powder exists in OR means that they must have potassium nitrate productionpotassium nitrate can be used to synthesize nitric acid fairly easilyconcentrated nitric acid is the key tech tree unlock for all the fun stuff the ATF doesn't want you to have
>>96548914Musket battles were also impossible to see through. It was filled with smoke. Everyone was coughing and scratching their eyes and shooting blindly. Colonial times was a cartoon era.
>>96548936Muskets were a meme but cannons absolutely were not
>>96548931Potassium? Like the bananas? Are bananas 0.0001 explosives?
How much damage would a musket ball do?
>>96548955it would be extremely painful
>>96548955Worse than a modern day bullet.The musket balls were made out of lead; a very soft metal that would flatten meeting anything. Including human skin. It therefore indeed made for grievous wounds, imagine putting a coin flat on your belly and then pushing on it so forcefully it goes straight through you : any organ hit is reduced to pulp, I could totally imagine such a projectile taking off a limb yes. "Civil War" from Trevor Royle includes a depiction of a soldier hit by a musket ball and it is definitely not pretty. The guts being basically turned to jelly and the hip being blasted in little pieces.Another fact to take into account was that by its shape the flattened musket ball had high chances to take pieces of the soldier's uniform with it into the wound. Leading to much higher chances of the wound to become sceptic while a modern rifle bullet would just go straight through any piece of clothing without taking any piece of it in the wound.The muskets ball though would lose power very fast when it left the barrel due to its not really aerodynamic shape and the relative weakness of the black powder. Less than 30 yards and the bullet can go straight through a man, but at 100 yards the ball would probably not make much damage to you, if it penetrated at all.A M16 can easily drop a target at 400m and a good shot can go further than that but I do not see a 5,56 mm bullet taking off a limb, far from that as it is a relatively small bullet and its shape makes it much more likely to simply puncture anything it hits, I would not willingly get shot at with one though as the chances of a vital organ or a big artery being hit is quite high. Even a 7,62 mm would probably not make the same damages as a musket ball at close range.So all in all yeah musket did awful damages and you would be lucky surviving a shot at short range but their effective range was pretty shitty compared to more modern weapon, hindering a lot their lethality.Also lead poisoning.
>>965489604u
>>96544975I just think that he's a cool True Neutral sorcerer.>>96544978The Exarchate is the Ecumene without any of its antagonistic (interesting) qualities but still just as stupid and shallow. The Heterodoxy worships Erginter, ERGINTER.
>>96548984Matterheroine, you’re making me hard.
>>96549010>anyone who knows the physics of guns is a shitposter now God I hate this place. “Did you know you can’t actually dodge a bullet?”, “Shut up nerd you just hate fun”, etc.
Is it even worth posting my updated build at this point?
>>96549025Yes, I will read it.
>>96549025for OR? It was never worth it to begin with.
>>96549025Sure. I'd probably read it.
>>96549025I also will read it but that guy won't
If your cyoa doesn’t let you outrun a bullet it is indeed a bad cyoa and you’re a terrible cyoa maker
>>96549025Post whatever you fucking want. Stop asking.
>>96549033False, now my build are in the list so I've made it.
>>96549036Tok let you block all bullets.
>>96549009Erginter? The HERO Erginter who prevented the resurrection of Eternal Empire by defeating the Mastermind behind it? The HERO Erginter who defeated THE Demon Lord Xian? The HERO Erginter who stopped the dreaded Dual Nightmare Monarchy and saved Doria and the World? The HERO Erginter who saved Old Throne and the legacy of Second Seat from the clutches of Inga Yesod? That Erginter?
>>96549009They don't know the full story of what she was like.They do know that she took down the evil progenitor demon lord and sacrificed her own life to stop him taking over her body.
>dodge bullet >realistically this should mean you move faster than the eye can follow >but for whatever reason they’re only this fast during moments of lethal panic
>>96549009There second most powerful person in the kingdom wants to abolish outsider-worship entirely, anon. It will be an actual southlander kingdom again. You could get a stupid but brave and kind knight wife
>>96549058One more filthy Dr*konid lie and I'll burn down her corpse myself.
>>96548931You shouldn't assume that gunpowder in OR has anything like real life chemistry behind it, even if Charlie would attempt to implement it.
One had a free True Love from JNPL.All of One's mentors and companions were male.Despite living for centuries, One didn't have any kids.
>>96549134There's a reason so many Anons glaze him...
>>96549063>Letting power slip out of your own fingers just because some dumb politician lady wants it
Who the fuck cares about realism
>>96549158Autists like Charlie.
>>96548984>>96549023You copied this entire post from reddit. You don't know jack about shit, retard. A modern rifle cartridge will obviously BTFO any black powder musket ball. A 500 grain musket ball going 700fps has ~550 foot pounds of energy, rounded up. A standard 5.56 NATO round has like 1300-1400+. It's not even close.
>>96549175...how did you even recognize a reddit post from 12 years ago?
>>96549153The power to rule a shitty america expy is insignificant next to the power of a blonde lady in armor who believes in you.
>>96549175This entire website is just copy + pasted bait posts now you realize
>>96549063And I refuse to take parents where my childhood will embolden the white heteros to keep turning the world into a boring imitation of Earth.
>>96549199>he's against white heterosbrave and bold
>>96549175At equivalency the musket ball is still larger and spreads out more, is the point. If you’re going to cherry pick modern day bullets and firearms then of course they are going to be worse.
>>96549199An outsider being born in a Blue family can strengthen the Blues. Pharnakes' description flat out says you'll help his faction merely by being born.Also, Nash/On
>>96547832Reminder that if you're an Outsider who rules the Empire, then the mainstream Whites (the non-Charlie ones) and the Outside Blues (who want the Exarchate to unify with the Empire) are basically the same faction.
>>96549184pattern recognition
>>96549175How much damage would a grain of sand moving at the speed of light cause, anon?You’re not playing fair.A musket ball would do more damage than a regular or low grade modern pistol, as the musket fired a large, soft lead ball that caused catastrophic bone shattering and extensive internal tissue damage, while lower-end handguns have less powerful cartridges and lower velocities and narrower bullets. Though a modern rifle is a lot more powerful than a musket, you’re right. A rifle can take your head clean off like it did Kennedy. A “lesser" modern pistol like a .22 caliber or a basic 9mm pistol would not have the same devastating effect as a musket ball's heavy, fat weight.
>>96547430Build update. Removed extensive flavor text and just posting shopping list. Ellavan "Ella" AureolePatron [SRTR] Using her Blessings to alter appearanceHalf breed -2D, -2ADrakonid/HumanUntimeSkip (XET)Dice Fudge -2AExtra Mentorx3 -3D, -6AAdoptionx2 -2DExtra Companionx3 -6D -3A>Birth ParentsMother (Adoption)Zwa AureoleLanguages: ----Inborn Gifts: Martial Instinct, Royal Claim, Icon of Icons, Eye of ShadowsDeath Slot: (A) Her'v' Politically motivated stealth death.Father (Adoption)TaexxLanguages: ----Inborn Gifts: Caster Intuition, Spiritual Feel, Ethereal BeautyDeath Slot: (A) Myslete, comatose with a tiny chance of coming out of it as a new person>AdoptionOne -1A -1DLanguages: Drakonian, EvermanThe Keter (Dice Fudge) -5DLanguages: AnyDeath Slot: (A) Greater YusAdopt another personality and become it. Throw away your old self, the one you believed to be a failure, and move on into a new role in life.>Languages: AllSold Languages: Plans to learn these later herselfSylphid +2DSpriggan +2DSalian +1DFay +2DLate Thulian +2DElven Northern +1D>Race: Hybrid Drakonid Northerner+1 Companion+3D>Birthplace: Dragon King's Most Divine Realm, Sinevamar +2AMentors 5Companions 7>Inborn GiftsWisdom -2ACognitive Speed -2AIntelligence -2AAttentiveness -2AMemory Retention -2ACaster IntuitionSpiritual FeelStarsight x2 -2AMultiocular Eye -3ALook of Chaosx2 -2AEye of ShadowsMartial InstinctBeastial Strength -4ADragon TransformationEthereal BeautyAgelessnessRoyal ClaimIcon of IconsNoble Inclination -2ABitter Sickness +4AWereplauge +2A (Cat)>Youth (4)Power TestingLeadership TrainingTheologyPlotting
>>96549242>Build update. Removed extensive flavor text and just posting shopping list.( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
>>96549205>>96549237>5.56 NATO>cherry picking(you)
>>96549253There are endless websites and colonial historians who will tell you getting hit by a musket is a lot worse than being shot and mugged by a black man.
>>96549242>Build update. Removed extensive flavor text and just posting shopping list.Why would you downgrade willingly?
>>96549218Pharnakes / Zwa son who True Loves (dice fudged) Maiosara Yesod, then takes Jdan, Geminaria, and KalliopaThe only humans left are the ones of the Ecumene.
>>96549260
>>96549242Your updated build was, in fact, not worth posting.
>>96549277>Maiosara YesodJust reading her name made me search "Misalliance" in the post. It's over for me.
>>96549242>Mentors (5)Jdan Ordo-DorianEncounter: N/ADeath Slot: (C) GlagoliKiyln the Orthrung -1DElla will keep her coffin at homeEncounter: N/A Rhucuphere: -5DEncounter: Digging for TroubleDeath Slot: (C) ShtaGewrgin Aureole Kashtanka of the Otherung (Genki Mentor) -2DEncounter: Things That Shouldn't BeDeath Slot: (C) Tsy>Companions (7)Empty Companion Slot A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll +2D +2AEmpty Companion SlotA Score of Ogres +1D +2AXET -3DEncounter: To Be At WarDeath Slot: (A) Iotated OukOmega Encounter: Hot Spot TroublesDeath Slot: (W) Khier-Zhivete +5ABlazhko -1D>Mentors-FedowaDeath Slot (C): Slovo, Spontaneous Death-Erina of the Orthrung - Death Slot (C): R'tsy, Magical Mishap-Zlata - Death Slot (C): Tverdo, death by starving-Ielziaseh-From-Erebus - Death Slot (C): Sha, Death by Ella-Leimeie - Death Slot (C): Iotated Az, possessedEncounter: Respawning Point (template Khier)Death Slot: (A) Yat-YeeSiggard (Badass Preacher) -2DEncounter: A Bitter SicknessDeath Slot: (C) Iotated Greater YusGunter Lilim (The Rival) -1DEncounter: AllDeath Slot: (A) Zelo-Zemlya - 1D-Araith Death Slot: (A)Lesser Yus, split into two personalities-Inga -ZhuchkaDeath slot: (A) Lesser Yus>Quest: E Nomine>Own Death Slot: Vedi-Yee -1D>>96549249>>96549269I realized it's too long since I wrote nearly a paragraph for almost every choice and did not think it was worth updating since it wasn't read the first time I posted it.
>>96549277You forget to take Apantoxia so you can take the Dragon King's, anon.
>>96549283I’m serious. One will leave a cleaner and smaller wound.
>>96549302
>>96549213I rated P.h. whatsit fairly high in my tierlist, and frankly Mada too well (only Yat tier) because I forgot that she was worse than a simple 00 worshipper.
>>96549296That is what rentry's are for
>>96549175based native knower, likely a gunCHAD too
My favorite solo build Nash's Mada. Couldn't resist the urge to frag a charliefucker before taking my first breath.
>>96549340I did have one, here's the old one with incorrect math https://rentry.co/f6d4kisq
>>96547972The Majushin should've been Flow-oriented while the Senguru Alchemy-focused. It just makes more imo, since they're monks who deal mainly with spirits, alchemy is much more suited for them, while Flow fits perfectly with the Majushin's crazy wizards stereotype.
>>96549134Hmm... did Vtorusha use her free true love to be mounted by her own twin brother. Is that the real reason all of those descendants have warmachina mounting?
>>96549356>gunfags are redditit's over
>>96549298Why would I set myself up to murder my own daughter? It's not a human kingdom if the dragons are ruling it, anon.
>>96549097It's left vague so that the reader can decide. Given the appearance of various outsider relics depicted in the CYOA, I would lean on the side of "it's possible".
Yes. The bigger the projectile the more damage it will do. You can only make up for the loss of size by putting more power into a smaller projectile.
>>96549388>>96549425lol please
>>96547410>>96547430https://rentry.co/3amh4xgwUpdated the build again since I found on Reddit tank said [JNPL] makes the adoptive parent free, and not just the perk. Used the extra points for Su'uq because no one else in Az picked her and she would be stuck in limbo otherwise. Also unfucked the rentry a bit.
>>96549134You don't need to use something just because you got it for free
The removal of twinks allowed some hermits to go out and enjoy fresh air, only to get grouped in pairs now. The meta is officially growing stale, new builds have too much "necessary" picks in common to form even one proper world.Dobro got populated though, that was nice. Thanks for your team spirit, Nlo, Commander of the First Imperial Host!
>>96549134He was a Chad who didn't need True Love. He likely could have fucked at some point just did not have any kids or he was just focused on his duty.
>>96549506>orc necromancer in Vedigood luck
>>96549377Tl;dr
>>96549457Sorry.
>>96542629I certainly saw it and included in the interactions in my build: https://rentry.co/25iuyph7
>>96549554top kek
>>96549543He's got a 20 year headstart, he's got this
>>96549543There are a lot of them, he is fucked.
>>96549506I (fucking robot) updated my build:>>96522237 No more Eirina, among other changes
>>96549543He already said he just wants to kill 0^0, not destroy civilization and kill all other outsiders.
>>96549582>>96547830
>>96549379Were there even any Senguru companions in the CYOA? They felt like an afterthought.
>instant seethe replylol
>>96549384Her brother was 100% a siscon so it's a possibility.
>>96549506>The meta is officially growing stale, new builds have too much "necessary" picks in common to form even one proper world.It's those damn first worlders (Az, Buki, Vedi) hogging all the good mentors and companions...
>>96549582Give yourself a proper name.
>>96549598the only good uruk is a dead uruk
>>96549635No, just like the M*ddish, the exception to that rule are outsiders.
>>96549506If you're updating this again, Onze Yesod doesn't have Keter or Nilmatrix anymore after this update https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#q96522744Swapped them out for Kashtanka and Alezandre
>>96549635Stop being racist and focus on the real enemy: M*ddish
>>96549633Wdym, the entire point of worlds is that each has a separate pool of mentors and companions?
>>96549609No, and there probably never will be given the entire CYOA was just PCA's unfiltered seethe over some people not liking him.
>>96549633Just make a build specific for the world you want in then, fag.
>>96549664Sad. Auntie V deserves better than the current crop of outsiders.
>>96549665lmao no, if you overlap with someone you get slide down the list until you don't
>>96549506>Nilmatrix kicked someone into hermitageWhat a masterstroke by Charlie
>>96549694>Auntie V>Vee the pixie>Auntie Vee>Both are associated with dreamsI wonder if I can use the "0^0 = One" tactic to wake up the Old Throne. I just need to access the Az world and jar a pixie.
>>96549707Yes? I think we are talking past each other somehow
>>96549153Are you talking about Senamotis? If you have her as your mom, reveal yourself as an outsider and join the blues, then you can get the whites to join the blues and avoid the civil war and take over the country and make it stable. Hell you can even marry Kalliope and get control of the Empire then giving you more stability and more power.
>>96549731>Implying the Blues won't sperg about you being a dirty Outsider and try to kill you
>>96549731Where's my Otome tide with a bunch of Fundamentum Outsiders competing for Kalliope's hand?
>>96549745when you make it
>>96549634Orion I highly doubt that I would inherit a family name after being the bastard child of two nobles and getting adopted.
>>96549676>He's STILL assmad.Imagine still being seething about a mid troll after all this time. Also if PCA made spirit conscript as a causal shitpost, doesn't that make him the greatest author to ever exist?
>>96549390Why would you kill your daughter? By taking her it ensures your bloodline would sit on the thrones of every nation on the Doria continent. From the Empire, to the Exarchate, to the Kingdom of Malkuth. The only one he did not true love is Geminara so he isn't in charge of the Old throne. But you can have one of your kids marry their future king.
>>96549765>seething about a mid trollThe CYOA is a troll?
>>96549782go back newfag
>>96549582Normally I am to lazy to redo everything for one update that leads to further rearrangements, but here you go.>>96549661One moment...
>>96549792Substantiate your statements.
>>96549765No, I like the CYOA and I like PCA's stuff, I just find it funny that SC was his response. I can respect the commitment to make a full CYOA as a shitpost though.
>>96549782No, PCA revealing himself as the mystery author and causing his haters who were slurping SC up to seethe, is.
>>96549743No?They dislike whites because they keep simping for outsiders no matter what. Like the whites are literal cucks(for you) blues want what is good for them. Think of the whites like American Evangelicals that worship Jews, blues are normal people who think it's retarded.If you went and offered the blues everything they want policy wise, an alliance with the Empire or whatever. They'd like you.
>>96549797thanks
>>96549805Is there really a contingent of PCA haters?
>>96549800What even caused that response from him? was it the mild reception of Ouroboros? I personally really like it.
>>96549743Blues are mostly about sovereignty (outsiders from another fucking continent shouldn't have any say over what we do) and southlander identity (the Exarchate is the only southlander country left and there's nothing southlander about it).The only character stated to actively dislike outsiders is Arsak, and for him it's specifically 0^0 and Keter. He'll want you to prove that yourself before he trusts you, but he won't hate you outright.
>>96549797I think you could automate this whole sheetmaybe I'll do it in a minute
>>96549765It definitely wasn’t casual. He definitely put some love in there. A cyoa author pretending to be another cyoa author also makes sense. An author sometimes has too much cyoa baggage associated to their name. It’s fun having a fresh start. Too bad he fucked that up.
>>96549821>>96549827I think he just took the usual contingent of shitposters personally.
>>96549827Pca was royally put in the dumps by a certain shitposter. So probably.
>>96549772Can't be a kingdom of all humans if there's a dragon in charge of one of the member states, anon.
>>96549821>Is there really a contingent of PCA haters?Yes, some anons for some reason really despise his flowery prose and high-powered settings. But for some reason the point he was trying to hammer in was that anime coomer art automatically means popularity, which is weird since that has nothing to do with why Spirit Conscript is so good.
As long as your cyoa consists of anime artwork, cool powers and interesting love options, it will be met with positivity. That was his point. Effort is secondary to the essence that is coveted here. You’ve seen spectacularly shit cyoas get builds just because it’s le high school anime.
>>96549864>You’ve seen spectacularly shit cyoas get builds just because it’s le high school anime.Anon has /mcyoag/ PTSD.
>>96549800He put too much effort into it for it to be purely a shitpost. Gil on the other hand…
>>96549864>As long as your cyoa consists of anime artwork, cool powers and interesting love options, it will be met with positivity. >That was his pointNo I definitely remember him raving about animu waifu cowtits.
>>96549864Could you give some examples of these 'shit cyoas'. Of course good powers and companions make a CYOA good, those are the essence of choice games in general.
>>96549887>animu waifu cowtitsBASED
"The Horde" shouldn't cause incompatibility in a tide, right?
>>96549890He was saying they were le bad anon.
>>96549887Well he should've made flatties then, anime waifu flatties are better.
I really liked Ouroboros.I made a thoughtful and in-depth build for it.I did not post my build or anything about it.
>>96549895Why would it?
>>96549543Scourge of the Damned is the guy that went on a malice shopping spree right? How does malice work in the outer tide? Malice gets overwritten by builds after him but what about builds before him? Does he malice the parents, mentors and companions of other builds in Vedi?Vedi is the one world he wouldn't do too much damage in though since it's already focused on Mamet due to Qarg and the Inquisitor fucking shit up on Doria. Qarg's reckless ambition to be king is guaranteed to succeed and get him a kingdom now though due to the sheer power vacuum Scourge of the Damned opened up with his malice spam.>>96549598If he malice'd the characters of other builds they could go after him out of revenge or spite. The Inquisitor is irrationally angry at undead to the point he'd go after them first before 0^0 or the Ecumene, there's bound to be conflict. Qarg is another ambitious Fundamentum build who'd go after him due to clashing ambitions. Punchardt would probably go after him due to the chaos he caused on Doria with his malice.
>>96549889Those one pager generic isekai school cyoas
>>96549899i didn't read all the post
The art selection for the romance options in spirit conscript were pretty fucking bad
>>96549923I've genuinely never seen one, perhaps I'm just a newfag though. I highly doubt they reach stature of 'actually popular' though.
>>96549919>How does malice work in the outer tide? Malice gets overwritten by builds after him but what about builds before him? Does he malice the parents, mentors and companions of other builds in Vedi?Those slots are already filled, so it's either overridden or he gets kicked out of the world for overlapping with other build choices.
>that time pca got told off by matterfag and he was never the same for it
>>96549919The inqiisitor is a shitter who only fucks up the world (or at least Doria) though, the Ururk only helps. Qarg from what I remember only wants to fight, he can very well be directed to Ecumene. And Malice gets overriden, players who picked the characters get priority over whoever Malice them basically.
>>96549937>so it's either overriddenI mean, Malice gets overwritten
>>96549889My Hero Academia, Danmachi and Fairy Tale, Entropist.
>>96549919>How does malice work in the outer tide?The order doesn't matter, if you are in a World with another Outsider, non-malice choices apply, and the Malice ones are ignored/overriden. You can only effectively malice someone who hasn't been picked at all basically.
>>96549857PCA's cyoas are visually good but other than that I don't like them. Looking through his allsync, the online one I really liked was the basement cyoa. I had no idea that was his, how did anyone even figure that? IIRC I played it right when it was first posted, and the author didn't identify as himself PCA.But hating an author is something different from not liking their works. Normally you'd hate an author who is irritating/disruptive in their thread behavior, or because their works move the general in a direction you don't like.
>>96549956>slipping entropist at the endyou think you're slick huh?
>>96549907One of my favourite builds for Ouroboros was the MMORPG one. It was so peak, I literally just copied the whole and made some tweaks to make it more brutal and less coomery.
>>96549946I wonder if people with edgy builds like Inquisitor will be able to actually follow through if it all became real. Would they really stake living peoples lives on whims they had in the black-gold halls?
>>96549962s/online one/only one
>>96549923I haven't seen a single one that I can remember. The closest I can think of is... Enaria I guess? But that's pretty good and at least 4 pages. There might be actual /trash/ shit like that though.
>>96549966>less coomeryYou lost the appeal.
>>96549968By probability, no.If the edge is actually practical, then probably yes if they have enough mental fortitude.
>>96549968I honestly doubt it. Realistically everyone would be somewhat wary of each other, but try to cooperate to take down 0^0. Meme builds would immediately take things seriously, only people who want to stay hidden and freeload would stay the same.And if someone has All-Glimpse, or somme equivalent ability, they can mind read everyone to guarantee no one's being a backstabbing bastard.
>>96549956MHA is the only one which really fits the 'highschool anime' feel, and it was only ever popular in mcyoag, people here tend to prefer things more explicit than just 'make up a power'. Danmachi and Fairy Tail were alright mechanically from what I remember
>>96547430>>96549661The nature is healing...Technically, we have no hermits even if it is because I didn't want to remove one world.
Assuming that you could only select from currently existing builds on the sheet, which tide build would (YOU) pick if you were getting isekaid into OR for real?
>>96549998>And if someone has All-Glimpse, or some equivalent ability, they can mind read everyone to guarantee no one's being a backstabbing bastard.Aren't the All-Glimpsers the most likely to be the problem? Plus, there are some anons who would kill any All-Glimpse users on sight.
>>96550027Mine.
>>96550038if you don't have any thoughts, the all glimpser can't read your mind
>>96549831That would be immensely helpful. Tried it myself, but no one follows consistent formatting. Combine it with typos, rentry links and people mentioning unpicked characters in write up and it became too much for my lack of skill.
>>96550038>Aren't the All-Glimpsers the most likely to be the problem? Why?>some anons who would kill any All-Glimpse users on sight.They'd need to know someone has it first. Still i see no reason to discard someone who can just nullify anyone lying to your group and ambushes, and maybe subordinates schemings against you.
>>96550027>Any
>>96550039What other answer was anon expecting to hear from us?
Imagine being the official all-glimpser of a court. You vet all personnel for the most important posts of the kingdom.Imagine the bribes...
>>96550013RIP NDL, but Keter, Eirina, and Leimeie in one build is a one-way ticket to hermitage.
>>96550027I'll assume my own build don't exist - probably a Humilitas one. Most builds are centered around a gimmick or some obsession that I don't share.
>>96549988The whole purpose of my build was a brutal survival horror game show anon. Making sex droids for the contestants does not fit the theme, unless the players managed to scavenge and fix one for themselves that is.
>>96550027Still mine (Unbegotten Dreamer). It sucks to live through and some plans would have to be adapted, but no other build goes as hard at stealth and dreams in the manner I want.Having Rhucuphre for a mother would suck though. Anons, how to avoid being brainwashed by the best mage in the world as a baby?
>>96549506Remove Rozir and Daemon too.
>>96550112You don't. You will get brainwashed and you will enjoy it.
>>96550056>no one follows consistent formatting. Combine it with typos, rentry links and people mentioning unpicked charactersI could make a program that sorts a list of outsiders and their selected characters into worlds, but I don't think I can scrape 4chan/rentry and fix typos/wrong information...
>>96550112>Anons, how to avoid being brainwashed by the best mage in the world as a baby?You will live with the consequences of your choices.
>>96550027I'm pretty happy with mine desu
>>96549854Sure it can. It depends on how you define Kingdom of all humans. If you define it as a kingdom of only humans then you are right. But if I define it as the kingdom that ALL humans are a part of(and other races can join)Then the name fits.
>>96550027Mine, but that's boring, so I'll pretend that's not allowed, I'd say Led. I wanted to say Foolish Dreamer but she's took Nilmatrix with no workable plan to win, so no can do.
>>96550027If I can't take my solo build and was forced to pick from the current list of tiders other anons made, I would go with one of Nightmare Daemonhost Majins.
>>96550138>>96550121On second thought, I might be fine.One as a father wouldn't allow anything too blatant and he is one of the best mages ever. The death letter protects from a personality death. In addition, I have Charlie's mentoring and Inner Vision for self monitoring.Still would be outplayed and influenced, but at this point it could just be called an upbringing, not outright brainwashing.
>>96550130I was trying to hold up a build list with consistent formatting for the purposes of tide compatbility, though it's a week out of date.
>>96549939What did he do? What did he say?
>>96550214He just said it was stupid to split magic and technology as though magic weren’t technology or technology weren’t magic.
Does the Eternal Curse even let dark elves feel physical pleasure?
>>96550157Other races are perfectly welcome in the Kingdom of All Humans. Beastfolk, Majin and Elves are part of the Empire, after all. Unlike the Firstborn, we even let them live free. I personally am even open to giving the Pan-Elven Government in Exile the protectorate that they want as long as we can work out a guarantee that they're not going to bring back the human slavery. (And you'll forgive me for wanting more than just their word, given the history.)It's *still* not a kingdom of all humans as long as the dragons that conquered and enslaved the humans of southwestern Doria continue to rule over us. I don't care if the new dragon is nice. Human rule over the human kingdom.
>>96550255No, unless it is magically induced.
>>96550255Why would it? Anyone who took a dark elf race for points can't masturbate now. This is JNPL's curse for Meaningless behavior.
>>96550274Imagine how frustrated Rhucuphre is.
>>96550274Think of all the poor Yphontfags who'll never get what they want...
>>96550302>>96550264
>>96550302On the other hand doesn't this confirm Yphont is pure like a proper waifu though?
>>96550264>>96550313Fuck that's hot.
So Majin as living spells are the only race that can pleasure Dark Elves? No wonder they allowed the Demon princess to conquer them.
>>96550317>Yphont>no action>Erginter>all the action>your mom, laid your egg
>>96550297>dark elves need magic to stimulate themselves>Rhucuphre is the oldest one we now and the strongest mage>she had a thousand years to get creativeTrue Loving Rhucuphre never sounded so tempting.
>>96549457>effortbuildgj
>>96550256You don't care if the new dragon is nice she can't rule over humans? You realize that is one province yes? She wouldn't be in charge of all humans just a group. Does that mean no nonhuman can be above any humans? So no beastman can be an officer in the Army and command humans? If you allow that, why can't a non human be a governor?
>>96550371HFY fags are retarded, anon.
>>96547430Are there any Lone builds that you guys wish were in the tide instead of single player?
>>96550393No one fucking cares about your shitty builds bug tranny.
>>96550406Thaumaradrak was cool though.
>>96550418>literal bug tranny build>coolNO!
"extra power in late life for higher risk in early life" like the uruk encounters is bad design because everybody images themselves winning anyway
>>96550450
>>96550450Uruks are jobbers
>>96550450I suppose the requirement for an empty companion or mentor slot means nothing to you for the cost to choosing them?Without certain languages making them more viable, people would likely only pick the Orcs and the Troll for the 2AP as an alternate to Burn the Future as non 0^0 worshipers.Also you literally are fated to survive anyway due to how heavy handed fate is in OR.
>>96550514Uruks are city-level at minimum, as evidenced by them being unbeatable by anything during a time where there were warmachina.
>>96549506Bros what world should I build around joining?
>>96547410>Patron God:[SRTR]>Reincarnation Perks:Halfbreed, Adoption x2, True Love, Untimeskip x2, Dice Fudge, Extra Mentor x4>Parents:Mother: Maiosara Yesod (Misalliance) (Tverdo)Father: Vadim Sacro-Ionian (Zelo)Stepmother: The Keter (Dice Fudge) (Yest')Stepfather: "One"Before my birth, 4D mastermind Jdan will set up the "family" situation, find Savmak* Girl, and transfer Savmak to a proper body. Savmak will be reinstated as the king of the Exachate and bring Savmak Girl with him. Jdan will rope Maiosara, Vadim, Dirk, Katya, Savmak, and perhaps others into the plan. An official alliance between the Exarchate, Malkuth, and the Old Throne will be established.On the day of my birth in Arcadia, there will be a grand celebration for the arrival of the eleventh Outsider and the return of "One". It will be announced beforehand across the continent, and all leaders of major factions in Doria will be invited. The moment I'm born, I will, with some help from others, transform my body to a proper adult state immediately. After a getting quick rundown of the situation, making a public appearance, and saying some pleasantries, it will be time for negotiations. An alliance spanning the whole of Doria will be established to face the Ecumene threat. Diplomatic relations and subsequent alliance with Mamet will be established soon.If "One" doesn't want to die, a body will be prepared for him in anticipation of his undead body expiring.I will make Katya, Thaumiel, and ??? a happy family; reawaken Vtorusha if doing so is found to be a good idea; and help Ielziaseh ascend.*The Savmak operation may need to be done after my birth, so Marsaget may be the one roped in instead of Savmak or maybe the Exarchate won't be involved before my birth. The situation would be less favorable, but that doesn't matter as long as the end result is the same.>Race:Human, Southlander/Muddish
>>96550522They're way higher than that, an Orc is equivalent to the local lord's men-at-arms, in full harness. Ogres and Trolls are even worse.
>>96550529>Languages:Everman (Untimeskip), FaeTutored: Everman for all Mentors and Companions who lack it and Fae.Quietened: all others>Location:The Doria Continent, Old Throne, Arcadia>Inborn Gifts:Ethereal Beauty, Thoroughbreeding, Second Wind, Bitter Sickness, Wereplague x2, Misalliance, Missed Shape x2 (Legs), Hybrid Disease, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, All-Glimpse, Stigmata, Icon of Icons, Autoantecedence, Blazing Seal, Enochian Brand, Azure Wreath, Devout Signature, Magician's Hand x3, Warmachina Mounting, Royal ClaimAutoantecedence Magician's Hand: Each hand can hold two spells, which are no longer limited to copies. The hands improve the user's spellcasting ability, enabling quintuplecasting of different spells rather than only the same one.>Mentors:Feodwra (Untimeskip) (Shta), Lyndis of the Doria (Untimeskip) (Qoppa, Zhivete), Dirk Yesod (Eirina of the Orthrung, Natalja) (Iotated Az), Jdan Ordo-Dorian (R'tsy), Ielziaseh-from-Erebus (Greater Yus), Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (True Love) (Sha)Dirk will share numerology and Tsifia with the alliance.>Companions:Germinara of the Doria (Iotated Ouk), Omega (Ot)The reason I'm so confident that certain events, even ones before my birth, will take place and be universally successful is because I have four 4D masterminds on my side: Feodwra, Jdan, Germinara, and myself. Six if [SRTR] and [YMRD] are counted. Together, we have unparalleled ability to scheme. If something doesn't happen like I predict now, it will likely be because we found better alternatives.Note: All the predictions in the build are for the final iteration, not past iterations, of which there will be at least two: one from Jdan and another from Germinara.
>>96550528One of the low-pop ones you like
>>96550545>Encounters:Nothing Ever Happens x2 (Dirk Yesod, Jdan Ordo-Dorian): We will meet on the day of my birth.A Score of Orcs; A Band of Ogres; A Bridge, A Troll, A TrollOn Sick Leave (Lyndis of the Doria): We will work together to find cures for our illnesses... or have worked together in case they were already found in a past iteration.Wine Is Thicker than Water (Rhucuphre-from-Maeve): I will steer Rhucuphre in a positive direction. No more unhinged plans about betraying the world. This is effectively killing the old evil version of her, and because I'm the one reforming her, it's Sha.On the Edge (Feodwra): Save the three Aureole sisters.Ready, Aim, Thunder (Omega): Likely against the Ecumene.Breaking and Entering (Ielziaseh-from-Erebus) (Location: Stygia): I will bring over Aat/Erginter's corpse to make remembrances and absorb it by using an extracted Baf Fiert letter. The latter may happen before this event.Done in parallel with everything else is the creation of a space shuttle to go to the moon to supplicate [YMRD] for assistance.>Death Letter:YatMaiosara, Feodwra, Dirk, Katya, Jdan, and Germinara's death letters will likely be solved ASAP in a controlled manner. Others' have low probability of backfiring, so they will likely serve as shields and be solved relatively late.>Youth:Magical Training, Theology, Power Testing, Journey of the SelfI already know Profane Lore from Untimeskipping Lyndis, and Plotting has already been done in past iterations that will be relayed to me.>Quest:E NomineWith the support of two Elder Gods, 4D schemes, a Dorian-Mametian alliance, Rhucuphre, and so many Outsiders working together, victory is inevitable.The idea behind the build is to obtain up as much support as possible from every source. I could have taken [JNPL] as my mother and found someone with Stigmata to communicate with [SRTR] to have all three Elder Gods on my side, but I align with [SRTR] the most.
>>96550558Old template: https://files.catbox.moe/yvdaxt.xcfNew template: https://files.catbox.moe/gmddiv.xcfIn case anyone wants them.
>>96550393Mine.
>>96550522>>96550540Any number of Uruks are zero challenge to any Outsider caster. They can only threaten martial builds.
>>96550529Jdan does not trust you5d chess only works when you are working to his explicit benefit, and he will not accept "I'll get you back bro"
>>96550540>local lord's men-at-arms, in full harnessHeh
>>96550450Uruks are great, because no one taking them thinks of the implications. Took orcs in Dis? Now they are present both during the jail encounter and Burnination. How did they get there? What does it mean that Uruk warbands are wandering under Dis like they are at home? How can it escalate when the fated encouneters are done and the existence of a city is no longer guaranteed?People with all Uruk encounters could be setting up themselves and their relatives to be fucked worse than Charlie.
>>96550565Thanks.
>>96550393My other builds(Me, ME!!!!!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!ME!)(I am thinking about myself)
>>96550522They don't need to be.You are a Highlord in charge of an Old Throne province. You have your 1 greater warmachina and 20 lesser warmachina in the garrison, aling with regular troops and dark clerics.An Uruk Horde shows up. You wreck them all, but lose 1 lesser warmachina and a few negligible human casualties. Humans can be replenished, warmachina can't be.But a furtive gremlin escapes, so easily forgotten. The horde rebuilds. The process repeats again. And again. And eventually a couple of trolls severely damage the greater warmachina your grandson pilots, because there is no auxiliary lesser warmachina left to cover it.
>>96550606Dude then you can just leave the smoldering ruin of Dis behind with everyone dead and horrors from below on the loose. No big deal. Eventually it may catch up with you but it's not your problem ~specifically~
>>9655060612 will fix it
>>96550528Come to Zelo, we have cookies and battle nuns.
>>96549797If you're taking requests, please put all of the keter trick builds into one worldI just think it would be really funny if we had one massively overlapping keter orphanage where all the anons have to share their companions and mentors
>>96550657nah (nta)
>>96550657Yeah(nta)
>>96550013This is the latest chart btw
>>96550657While I can't support this, it would be really funny. Since they also take more characters on average, it might reduce overlap for some worlds. Even if a few low-pop worlds get broken up, it would make those that remain more varied.However, and more importantly, it's not the intended way to be played.
>>96550581Casters and Martials both existed before Muskets yet neither could defeat a troll. Gunfags are clearly superior.
>>96550640Sure, it is easy to say so now. It would be way harder to keep up after growing up there, connecting with people and growing more disconnected from the old life.All this while knowing about the Damocle's sword you've placed there yourself. And they are specifically fated to target those you care about, meaning even the Savmak special wouldn't work. There fated to be some people you like and they are fated to be attacked.
>>96550692Gods existed before Muskets yet trolls were still considered unbeatable. Gunfags are clearly superior.
>>96550698True. It's something I considered a lot for my build, and it may have been better not to take the orcs encounter. I believe that my build could protect everyone, however, and that the people that most qualify as targets would certainly be able to survive on their own. The same is certainly true for the vast majority of builds that took the Uruk encounters, just because of how exceptional most outsiders, companions, mentors, and parents are.
>>96550689We already set a character limit to Az, and sent toyboxers to the voidMost importantly, a game should be fun and a world should be thematic
>>96550716He already mentioned casters.
>>96550716Unironically yes. You could kill a god with a big enough gun.
What did Uruks do to live in your heads rent free?
>>96550764Imagine them pinning you down...
Many of the Ecumene's finest Empyreans had to permanently retire from the army because of how traumatized they were from constantly dying to the mighty Uruk warriors of Mamet.
>>96550723>funNo. A game should be logical. Fun is how you end up with the clusterfuck that was the V1 tide.
>>96550764They invaded my head... ruthlessly, in numbers uncountable... they live here now and I can't drive them out
Uruk BVLLS win again
>>96550792Autism. Not even once.
>>96550801You can't refute this.
>>96550801He is not autistic enough, that is why he cannot understand.
>>96550792That was based tho
>>96550792Better a clusterfuck than the boring wet fart V2
>>96550792A game matching the rules is necessary for it to be satisfying, but only to a pointWhen made in good faith at honest junctures, exceptions can be good and fun. an addition to the logic of the game instead of a violation to it
>>96547410
>>96550792V1 tide was far more united and formed a much better story than whatever is going on now.
I wonder what the death letter descriptions were like before 0^0.The first 9 outsiders might've got something cryptic more like the top right description, hinting at their death meaning, without fully spoiling it. Then charlie takes over and removes the mystery.
>>96550371This isn't some random beastfolk kid inheriting a baroney, it's Muddish land stolen from the Old Throne by a dragon who enslaved humans and forced them to worship him. Letting his granddaughter keep his throne is capitulation to drakonic tyranny.A kingdom of all humans that capitulates to our enemies is no kingdom at all. There are living humans who were enslaved by Pantorai.
>>96550907No, Charlotte did not make things easier for you.
>>96550907I don't think so, there's no way Vtorusha didn't foresee that she killed the antichrist just by being born.
>>96550881I think it is because while a percentage of people willing to actively engage with each other is similar in both tides, here they get separated so on average only 1-2 active people land on each world. Meaning, those people have no one to interact with and lose interest faster.Combine it with the slow speed of the worlds filling up and we get what we get. It is no coincedence that Az produced the most content by far.
>>96549056You're damn right!
>>96550925I wonder if the multiplayer of a cyoa could look like this:The first couple of builds are an exception, but after that, each new build must link itself to previous builds.For a concrete example:ASOIAF. The cyoa is about a large noble family (that by marriage relations crosses into other noble families).All the builds form an extended family tree, and each new build must add itself by a family relation, eg as a child of A and B (and therefore sibling to their other children C and D, and uncle to the children of E and F). And there's a rule that a new build must describe each parent/sibling/child relation with at least 10 words (it can be something dead simple).
>>96551024Can you marry in?Do you set parameters that someone must fulfill to marry you? (x words or less)
I think multiplayer sucks.
>>96550881I actually quite like my world, it is way better for imagining a story when you can picture all the main characters instead of them turning into dozens of faces blending with each other. Our story is smaller, but it feels ours.
>>96551039>Can you marry in?Yeah, otherwise the original family would get too large. That's what I meant by crossing into other families, it's just that 1 family is the "starting position" from which everything branches off>Do you set parameters that someone must fulfill to marry you? (x words or less)No idea how to handle that desu. It was a quick example that came to mind, that's all
>>96550925Ah, the cost of following the rules...The subjective matters have been said already, so I'll speak about practical matters. Torrential Tide offsets the risk of being in the same world with bad 11ths with numbers, ensuring that you get much more good people than bad. There is no such guarantee when following the rules. It's entirely possible for you to be inevitably fucked if you end up in a world that has a Rhucuphre mind controlled slave, Charlotte sympathizers, and other stupid or insane 11ths. Picrel for reaction of ending up in such a world.Therefore, I didn't pick Outer Tide.
>>96551024Interesting concept, horrible example. /mcyoag/ might love the ASOIAF incest cyoa though.
>>96551058You may be right. A more digestible example would be countries that are next to each other on the map, and each describes its relations with all neighbors.
>>96551058>/mcyoag/Can't work.
>>96551056Honestly, sounds fun. Worse for opposing Charlie, better for generating interesting interactions laced with conflict.
>>96551073It lowers your chances of survival and getting power. The optimal playthrough is singleplayer.
>>96551078Actually, the optimal playthrough in V2 is taking Blessing of YMRD or 0^0. Then you can persuade Tankista to make the player even stronger in V3, then make your build for it.
>>96551056>a Rhucuphre mind controlled slaveThis is not mind control, I just think mother has the right idea. This is 100% my own thought, she told me so.
Honestly I don't believe any of you are smart enough to beat Rhucuphre.
How the fuck do you pronounce Rhucuphre, anyway?
>>96551096lucifer
>>96551096Similar to Lucifer
>>96551095I, too, believe in Rhucuphre supremacy. We should lie down and accept the true mastermind of the setting.
>>96551095Finding her would be nearly impossible if she's not a companion. But Malice and Du'um's power can kill her even without finding her.Assuming that Du'um can apply the death letters from wherever, does she need to see the target like 0^0 needs to?
>>96551109Ielziaseh hands typed this post.
>>96551109You mean YMRD? Rhu is definitely her proxy. She even calls herself a pawn.
>>96547410>Want to make a Fay/Late Thulean bilingual>Suddenly every mentor and companion becomes extremely expensiveIt's annoying how limiting some languages can be. Fay is fucked in terms of applicable characters and it gives AP per mentor slots funnily enough.
>>96551095You took Int AND Wis, right, anon?
>>96551121NO. Rhucuphre is too clever to be a god's pawn. She's above them in understanding too. YMRD didn't know the potential of dream while Rhu knew since centirues
>>96551125Yes. I just has to drop Lukag. It's a fooled-proof plan.
>>96551128Could you imagine?If YMRD also knew how to lie to the other gods?CrazyThat could never happen
>>96551124It has Lyndis, she is like three mentors in one.1) Stewardship and rulership.2) Divination.3) Dark magic.
>>96551135She wouldn't be able to slip things past JNPL who watches everyone to ensure they die.
>>96551114>MaliceShe'll notice the death letter and overcome it. She's already done it before.>Du'umRhucuphre had a death letter applied to her, she's not a valid target for Du'um.
>>96551114You can just use Duphroru, A Betrayal Most Foul or even Wulfwynn to find her outside of Malice. They are there to ensure that who you want dead dies on the spot without any way to escape that fate. Her escaping dead once doesn't mean that she could do it again.
>>96550606Anon, Dis is an entire city-state with a small country's worth of land around it, you can see on the map that it's not JUST the city.
>>96550846Did you set a cap on world size? If so, what?Omnicompatible characters aside, apparently Scourge of the Damned could fit into Az. That's crazy considering that's the 47th character on my list
>>96547857
>>96551176Doesn't matter. If you took Score of Orcs they're there in the city and ready to rock when you take an in-city event.
>>96550913The Muddish have no right to any land.
>>96551185He set it at 9, despite it being the least popular option in the poll
>>96551150>Du'um>Rhucuphre had a death letter applied to her, she's not a valid target for Du'um.What? Her death slot is wide open. Du'um cannot target the ones whose slots are filled or who don't have slots.
>>96551196Stop being racist. It makes Tankista sad.
You either need to Sha her and untimeskip + A Betrayal Most Foul + maybe Duphroru, and have a reasonable build, or you need to have a serious build that is dedicated to countering her while she's unaware due to lack of a Letter.
>>96551185I should have mentioned that I'm not the guy maintaining the worlds list. I just remove the empty white that he apparently refuses to.
>>96551202The poll was split even last time I saw. Could you give a link?
>>96551194>A Score of Orcs>will show up at inconvenient times during any other Encounters you may have in your birthland.>Never Alone>They were always by your side>This option can be considered already applied to your parents, adoptive parents, and siblings by default.>Orcs will show up at your birthUruk encounter bros...
>>96551204No, I will never stop being mad about their ego and that chair making them impossible to integrate into the Empire.
>>96551225If you want fight off orcs with your mind seconds after incarnating, you're a jobber.
>>96551224https://strawpoll.com/xVg71zLmOyr/resultsIt ended at 7 Do nothing6 World limit 5 Char limitAtleast some char limit votes were shitposts trying to even the poll
>>96551225I'd win.
>>96551221
>>96551239If I were the one doing it, I'd follow the rules to the letter. Half assing is the worst.
In the languages section, when it says"Chose a location with it"Does it mean"Chose a location that speaks this languages"Or"Used this language to chose a location"Can someone ask tank on reddit for me?
>>96551248
>>96551248Did you make this for pixies?
>>96551261It means that one or both of the people raising you will need to be able to speak that language if you want to pick that location.
>>96551239Well, I personally think it is dumb to let every omnicompatible character stay in Az by default, but we'll go with the poll.Won't redo already placed ones though, we need at least some stability.
>>96551261You need to choose a location with a language at least one of your parents knows.
>>96551261What the fuck is this question? For the location-specific language bonuses, you get them if the location you picked has that language as a requirement.
>>96551272He's talking about the language bonus, like everman polyglot.That said,>>96551261I don't understand the confusion here? So "Chose a location that speaks this languages" is a better description.
What's the worst encounter to take if you have A Score of Orcs, because of the implications? Consider both that they're there, and that they'll be a threat.On the Edge?Just a Nightmare?Second War of Heaven and Earth?
>>96551284I thought you only got one....
>>96551291Wine is Thicker Than Waterno contest
>>96551274They don't actually exist anyway. No one's real build takes unnotable parents, no mentors, and no companions.
>Take Dei as mom>Late Thulean and Simplified Druegar are useless due to poly bonusI'm sure Dei will understand why she was fated to give me up for adoption.
>>96551297They just like to watch.
>>96551297>He doesn't invite his uruk bros to the party
>>96551291Birthland only, so it's who-gives-a-shit for most people. Who the fuck is born in Kita or Bastionaria lol? >>96551297Also, only their presence is guaranteed. The degree of threat depends only on the person.
>>96551345Kita/Bastionaria being a bumfuck nowhere with shit languages is the only thing preventing me from showing Wine Thicker into every build.
How much does language make you change your build? Seeing everyone gravitate toward Everman, Palitinate, and Simplified Duergar+Benewhisper.
>>96551361
>>96551345Hey, watch your mouth. The update to my old v1 build that I won't post was in Bastionara. I would have actually picked Kita.but I needed that free true love from old northerner.I just wish Tsoshu was a little more developed.
>>96551373It's also really disappointing that the native elves all died out.
>>96551345>Encounter says it will make other encounters more difficult>Interpret this as 1.000001x more difficultyMeaningless behavior
>>96551381Fuck you.
>>96550606If we have to assume that Gunter is a prologue or epilogue during encounters like the Gremlin which specify that we're alone, I think we can assume that the problems the orcs cause during your encounters should be something reasonably possible. Like if they attack the city gates and that delays the person who was supposed to let you out of the dungeons, so you have less time to convince them before the monster comes out. They're probably not physically in the dungeon with you.
>>96551391With or without True Love?
>>96551396C'mon, you know that already. Don't salt the wound.
>uruk>bodyswap Death rune with companion
>>96551229Inga got 'em. Are you worse at this than Dirk's great-grandma?
>>96551408Give it to Alezandre
>>96551229>Beaten by One's followers>Beaten by Savmak>Beaten by Inga>Beaten by Keter >Beaten by infightingIt feels like a skill issue to me that you cannot get rid of them.
>>96551413Great idea, absolutely nothing can go wrong here.
I have updated my parent tierlist to cover the dice flipped mentors.
>>96551435Could you describe your general thought process?What do you think makes a good parent?
This is what I got by running my program. World size limit of 9, placing omnicompatible characters where they are currently placed.There are some discrepancies from the sheet. I think a few of the characters in the chronological build list and on the sheet are in the wrong place, relative to when they were created.Liriel is listed before Rozir, but the archive link shows that Rozir was made first and Rozir is the one in Glagoli. Although maybe the link for Liriel was an update. I'm not sure.I CBA to investigate the rest of the discrepancies, some of them may be due to old data from the list or something. Either way you have to find and resolve each discrepancy in order because every little variation causes more differences later down the line.
>>96551435
>>96551412Copying Inga makes me feel like a poseur.>>96551426None of the rest beat them, they used their gay chair to survive.
>>96551462Could you write something to find the minimum number of overlaps with 5~ worlds?(Or with 4 worlds and a keter orphanage)
>>96551377Yeah the Yaksha are pretty cute looking, would rather see them than the Sidhe.
>>96551371I sold half my languages for the extra points to buy another companion.
>>96551377Thaumiel girls keep winning
>>96551467After Savmak the Kingdom was literally reduced to just the lost city for over a generation, they were soundly beaten, they just managed to come back after a long time. Just do what any sane person should do and destroy the damned chair.
>>96551462Krinak is illegal, I think.
>>96551462I sometimes have the destructive urge to update my early solo build with tide just to see how much of a wrecking ball it'd be for the worlds.
>>96551462>Liriel is listed before Rozir, but the archive link shows that Rozir was made firsthttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96410023https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Wrong.Also, Rozir is not a Tide build.
>>96551485He modified his build to be legal later IIRC.
>>96551482>Well they were put on the back foot!So? They abused the chair until they won, who cares how long it took? They couldn't be destroyed because of the chair, and thus eventually won.
>>96551478>Just ignore that they cry blood and scream in their sleep bro, these are just like the Yaksha you remember!
WHERE IS ULTIMATE GOD
>>96551508Died of old age.
>>96551504Nothing a good dicking can't fix.
>>96551495That's stupid, that's like saying that Germany won both World Wars because it still exists as a sovereign nation and wasn't completely obliterated. Them still being around doesn't mean they weren't beaten st the time.
>>96551508Still unavailable. This is REGIONAL GOD. My subordinate LOCAL GOD directed your call to me. What is your emergency and how can I be of assistance?
>>96551508Authors are scared of Tankista.
>>96551517When your goal is to conquer the whole continent, then surviving does indeed mean you failed.
>>96551478Has anyone else who took Thaumiel made plans for the kind of creatures they're going to make?
>>96551522my dick's stuck!
>>96551470Sounds like a lot of math.Maybe I can figure out a solution in a few mins but no promises.>>96551491>although maybe the link for liriel was an updateRozir is a tide build if you open that link and in his rentry.Either way, Liriel should be in Glagoli over Rozir then, and it's not so on the sheet. Unless there is some other reason for this that I am not aware of.
>>96551534Some will be specialized in infiltration like ??? to enter other nations and install the idea of Majin cooperation and supremacy through subterfuge. Others will be diplomats showing the same through more direct means. The less perfect ones will be on dungeon and underground exploring duty, seeing if they nightmare nature can help them explore those places freely. The strongest will be the vanguards of the renewed Majin/Nightmare army.But they will all be adorable daughters.
>>96551552>Rozir is a tide build if you open that link and in his rentry.Rozir is one out of 8 builds that an asshole spammed.
>>96551562then this is what it looks like without Rozir...are there any other characters that should be removed?
>>96551522This is the "Ultimate" God experience BTW. Aromage is expanding it so that there are not one, but four different higher gods for your "ultimate" god insert to worship.
>>96551508There's probably five OCs ready to drop in November. Several algorithm-fried zealots I know keep telling me the evangelical rapture is due to happen sometime in the next 8-12 days and I don't take it seriously, but it would suck if the apocalypse happened and we missed out on some CYOAs. They're so persistent I've almost gaslit myself. I'm more or less hunkering down waiting for the month to pass.
Im sure its been asked, but does thorough breeding pass on Perks to uruk spawn?
>>96551371People gravitate towards those because the CYOA pretty strongly disincentivizes actually keeping the languages that parents give you. There's a lot of "if you didn't inherit it" and "if you chose the location" triggers in polyglot, and since most locations only have 1 or 2 languages, there's a very good chance that you've got languages from your parents that aren't giving you a bonus. Combine that with the fact that Everman tutoring is cheap and Uruks + non-inherited mamet languages is a lot of points, and people tend to gravitate heavily towards a small number of stronger-than-average set-ups whenever their build priorities allow it, which is most of the time.(Also, this isn't really anything, but Everman tutoring basically made Eirina 2 points cheaper in the update. I think that's why we're seeing more of her this time around than we did in 2022, even if she was still popular back then)
>>96551593no
>>96551549*zap*Your dick has been safely deposited in your fridge. That will be $50 in the offertory box of your regional god shrine!
>>96551603It's not like I use it so...
>>96551591Does Zeus worship kronos, or even the storms he wields? Did Gaia worship Khaos? Do the Aesir and Vanir worship Ymir? Just because you come from something or channel it doesnt mean you worship it.
>>96551584The rentry has the (confirmed) builds made by the same people listed.>Made by the Same Person>Person 1: Father of the Paracausal Arts, The Wandering Professor>Person 2: Zyneheart, He'el, Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen, Thaumaradrak, Lady, the Academy Meister, Daemon ex Machina, Holy Father, Balor of the Evil Eye>Person 3: The White Prophet, Time Traveler>I have placed these people's subsequent builds after their first one and designated all but their preferred Outer Tide build (or, not knowing that, their latest one) as not Outer Tide (Lone).
>>96551603
>>96551504Crying blood is a beginner's mistake. It indicates that you didn't secure the Pokoy mesh properly before proceeding to Zemlya.As for the screaming in their sleep, idk what to tell you. Yaksha just did that. Fucking elves, man...
>>96551611If I'm forced to channel it I'm innately inferior and beholden to it, because it can cut off my source of power.
>>96551613Man fuck those anons, literal scumbags all.
9 of the characters on the sheet are mineand you'll never know which ones they are
>>96551611If you're swearing allegiance to an incorporeal authority then it's worship.
>>96547410>>96547430I was curious if anyone took the extra races so I checked all the builds and made a list:Godslayer Punchardt - Tempered (To look like Gigachad)Unnotable Guy - Pixie/Giant (For Diminishment)Useful Humilitas (Lone) - Erl (Likes the antlers)Lotte - Kristi (To infiltrate the Ecumene)>BugtrannyHoly Father - Drakonid/Phonexian (For Phoenixian inborn gifts)Balor of the Evil Eye - Tuath/Daeva (To use Daeva's Transcedentality to fulfill Iotated Az death)Looks like most people didn't bother picking the extra races for some reason.
>>96549377I have read the buildIt's pretty goodMusings:I would really worry more about keter not liking the concept of identity death, or getting herself into a spiral of panic and despair if she can't intentionally control itKeter trickery. I would have hoped for better from youBlahzko having such magic and ties to the demon hunt make him a real contender to take it over one day. He was always a hair away from becoming the protagonistAll of this reads in a very day-dreamish wayIt's sort of cuteLike an OR fanfic
>>96551651It's technically illegal.
>>96551613none of those are in my list I think>>96551651You see humans with horns a lot, but humans with antlers are a seriously underrated character design. I like them a lot.
>>965516371 and 3 are fine. 1 basically dropped his second build, and 3 has only made solo builds (Listanon missed the fact that The White Prophet didn't take Outer Tide).2 is worthy of universal condemnation.
>>96551660it's legal for now
>>96551651>no ooze builds surprisingly>surprisinglyNo one wants to be a Lowlife.
>make builds>anons hate you
>>96551613>>965516648 builds and they are all dogshitit's almost impressive
>>96551651They all just kinda suck desu. Some can be extremely strong but most of them are mid. When the investment needed is JNPL as a mother you'll have to decide if you wanted to give up proper parents just to nab a couple good inborn gifts over going for normal races and having a much higher power budget. Oozes I'm not surprised about, those guys have short lifespans which is absolutely terrible and can't have any eye hand or leg gifts. They fucking suck for an Outsider whose plans may take decades to pan out and basically means you'd have to be satisfied with the innate benefits of a goop guy which ain't much.
>>96551651>Looks like most people didn't bother picking the extra races for some reason.That would require most people to pick JNPL as mother, so they can't be in the same world, so of course it can't be most people.
>>96551593Yes
>>96551674Oozes are cute.
>>96551692hi Beri, long time no see
>>96551674Another factor is that they probably don't actually fit under JNPL. Really, how many here plays OR to live comfy without grand adventure or discovery? Picking the patron you align with the most is of vital importance if you don't want to get fucked down the line.
>>96551683Let people be Jesus siblings.
>>96551651Most of the races have no mechanical benefits.
>>96551651Picking anything that doesn't just have Gifts you can guess the functions of means having to either [SRTR] a slot or points in or [JNPL] a straight point loss.
>>96551692yeah but when you get absolutely shit in exchange its not really much of a decision to skip on them.It does make taking Iotated Lesser Yus pretty easy though. Being split and rebuilt into a lesser form is kinda the norm for a slime. Still kind of sucks when you get pigeonholed into only being able to take the regular body/mind gifts, though maybe there can be a fun build that can be done if you halfbreed it to nab agelessness since Everlasting has a very high likelihood of not coming around in your very short lived livelihood. >>96551699>Picking the patron you align with the most is of vital importance if you don't want to get fucked down the line.All the 0^0 patrons really going to feel it down the line. Hope it was worth the extra points taking the bait like that.
>>96551699What could be more comfy than reinstating the goddess of comfiness?The entire world deserves to enjoy comfiness
>>96551732>All the 0^0 patrons really going to feel it down the lineI'm built different. No force of fate or god can stop me.
>>96551699Both One and Vtorusha were her champions as much as Tuzik.
Most popular to least popular characters.Blazhko and Gunter are massive cockblocks for tide worlds, and I think they are why Leimeie takes the top spot.
>>96551748>No force of fate or god can stop me.It's actually going to be the lack of it that's going to hurt. You really want friends in higher places because otherwise you are just sort of a smuck with some good genes put into the right places at the right time, but past those Encounters what will you really have?
>>96551470
>>96551732>Everlasting has a very high likelihood of not coming around in your very short lived livelihoodCombine it with Vedi. When major success in your quest is the most reasonable explanation for why you can survive long enough, it will most likely happen.
>>96551756Now do it without countng Keter moms
>>96551757Word of God, is the strongest skill you can personally acquire in the CYOA. It's how Charlie accomplished her False Ascent in the first place. It should be enough to do it against her.
>>96551756Why is Leimeie so popular?
>>96551756>>96551760Thank you, anon.
>>96551764Counterpoint: you can be a shapeshifting slime dragon for cheaper and it comes it a thousand+ style points.
>>96551760>>96551770forgot to say that omnicompatible characters are just placed randomlyidk if this is the optimal solution either, it is what it is
>>96551757The one writing the story is actually me.I am above even the Elder Gods.
>>96551767You can teach all of your other mentorships to your companions. You could give Araith Upunth's teachings, ??? Ielziaseh's, and so on. Not to mention, you can give Leimeie to Blazhko-sensei for him to be able to teach you multiple other mentorships for free.
>>96551534Ideas that I've had:- Bring back extinct races- Make capital-o Orcs with souls that are otherwise indistinguishable from soulless orcs. Give them both ordinary reproductive equipment and an inherent ability to make more of themselves from drawing on the nightmare. Release a few into the Poludan underground uruk hordes and see what happens.- On the other side of the coin, create a race of "empty shell" monsters like the Uruk that are nevertheless alive enough to be possessed by ghosts. Build them into specialized varieties with their own abilities like shapeshifters, flying murder-things, giant siege monsters, etc. Recycle the spirits of fallen allies as pilots for these bio-mechs.- Dinosaurs
>>96551767Blazhko
>>96551786Oh, and I almost forgot: I'm pretty sure it works on Lemeie's mentorship itself. You could have exponentially increasing Rucuphre&Ielziaseh wannabes sneaking into the Ecumene.
>>96551773It's locked behind BOTH of them available to you. No Halfbreeds with JNPL.
Are hand powers always active or are they use at will? Specifically im wondering if Deathless Grasp would accidentally heal an enemy if you grappled or punched them.
>>96551767It's the Blazkho thing, but at least one of those is me pairing her with Mlada because I think Mlada's spell-thief trick is a lot cooler when you've got Leimeie's "don't reveal what you know" training to keep it a secret. Also an entire party of Dark Clerics sharing spells with each other goes pretty hard.
>>96551811Unless they mention otherwise pretty sure they are always active. Touch of Embedded Rust specifies that if you have two then the only things that won't rust are objects you hold with both hands or Treacherous Hand stating that with two you can turn it off completely. The only one seems to not be on all the time is Crooked Caress and Spirit Tap since they both need you to focus on triggering it while touching the target.
>>96551786Meh. Her mentorship is only good if you untimeskip her and a bunch of others. Learn to teach by going to school lmao.Her real value is in easily bringing the entirely of the Daemonhunt to your side.
Which tide world is the most sovlfvl?
>The Eternal Empire's greatest saboteur was Yphont's fatherWhy did he do it?
>>96551894Mine.
>>96551894The one your build is in
>>96551894>which tide world>not just throwing everyone in on one planetYOUR BUILD IS WEAK AND YOUR WRITING WILL BE FORGOTTEN!
>>96551965>>not just throwing everyone in on one planetMeaning devaluation, the First Tide did it first.
>>965520191 vs. 1 me at Dis fagget
>>96552043I don't think our builds belong to the same world...
>>96552048I made a new one with you two now fight
>>96550913So you support Muddish claims then?Also she isn't just Pantorai's grandaughter, she is also the daughter of the man who created the kingdom of all humans and made a golden age.As for humans who were enslaved they deserve reparations and any living dragons who did war crimes should face a nuremburg trial. Again your dragon daughter would probably support that she dislikes her mother for being too "brutal" and she actually ended human slavery.
>>96551895Literally and legitimately misogyny. He hated Drow being matriarchal (which is fair) so much that even when it was his very own daughter who was in charge, and who he could presumably talk to and convince to instate gender equality, he decided he would rather sperg out and shit on her legacy and her dream by tearing her empire apart before he'd tolerate one more second being told what to do by a woman or even talk to one (even his daughter.)
>>96552074BASED
>>96552074All part of YMRD's plan™.
Some people play these to escape gender politics...
>>96552074>"Why would I let a Woman decide the fate of Men?"
>>96552074>who he could presumably talk to and convince to instate gender equalityThis was probably already her long term plan to begin withAnd she may well have told him so too
>>96552110He's a villain in this story, a man consumed by his seethe so much he'd rather strike out against his daughter's legacy than behave rationally.
>>96552120Oh yeah, I know, I'm just remarking that some people just can't control their urge to burn it all down
>>96551646This is an older wip screenshot and was changed almost immediately iirc
>>96552074When his character description said no matter the cost, Yphont didn't realize that he really fucking meant it.
>>96552074That's a real man.
>>96552074a man should have at least that much conviction
>>96552141It's normal for a sane person to think a father would care about his child. Turns out her father wasn't sane.
>>96548820>>96548833>tfw no uruk wife
>>96552130I wonder what the four aspects are. If I tried to break reality down into four mutually opposed fundamental parts, they'd probably look something like->Sensation>Genesis>Entropy>ReasonI could check the WIP link but it'll release soon enough, I'm sure. I haven't looked at any of them yet. The first time I see it in detail will be when it drops.
>>96551756>Only 1 anon would subject himself to Paxxia/cyoag/ has fallen...
>>96552196it's actually>Existence>Non-Existence>Difference>Potential
>>96552176>uruk wifeI remember now. Someone tried something like that.
>>96552207He wasn't certain anyone would be interested in the female Uruk since the scientist seemed all-around better. When he saw my interest, he decided to complete the build.It warmed my heart for some reason.
>they're still talking about outer redditcarnationugh..
it reeks of thirdie all of a sudden
>>96552232Let's talk about you! What's your favorite cyoa, anon?
what are the best mommy milkers in OR?all this time I thought Paxxia was a milf and instead she’s some loli
>>96552257>all this time I thought Paxxia was a milf and instead she’s some lolieven hotter
>>96552257It's Ymreit, everyone accepted that with v1 and nobody in the new one has bigger.
>>96552275>anon has to avoid yelling out "HERE COMES THE MILK TRUCK" during his entire childhood when mom sloshes into the room
>>96547430Man still got the urge to tweak my build again even though there's not much more to optimize. It's basically just playing around with what specific playstyle I want to align towards more since. Also because I fell for the Icon of Icons meme. Do I have actual lifelong connections or enough political power/potential to make full use of it? No, but that's a problem for future me to worry about.
>>96552304If you have even one (1) friend it literally doubles the power of your gifts and skills
>>96552304The real meme is thinking Icon of Icons is not worth it.
>>96552304Do it. It's a mandatory pick.
>>96552304Don't add it if it gives nothing to your build idea. If you aren't trying to become an actual icon as a leader or you don't have a close knit group of companions then there's no need to force yourself into using it.One had it and was perhaps the best user of it and he still lost a fight.
>>96552205That sounds about accurate.
>>96552304Not using it is braindead no matter your build. It's a fucking multiplier.
>>96552074>it was his very own daughter who was in chargeYphont refused to be in charge and when his manipulation came, she had cut all ties to the Empire for going against her idea of peace. You can easily just go the other direction and say that he destroyed the kingdom from inside because it was no longer supported by his daughter.I still find it weird that Yphont parents and mentor are the only characters that are not mentioned by name in the outsiders page.
>>96552359Part of the issue for One was probably that half his true friends were Vtorusha and her faction, and a lot of his allies were people that hated him and would like to see him enslaved for being human if he wasn't so strong (like the First Empire.) These kinds of battle of ideals/party in-fighting are the absolute worst for Icons since suddenly the very people who feed you power are your enemies.
>>96552378>I still find it weird that Yphont parents and mentor are the only characters that are not mentioned by name in the outsiders page.It's an oversight, pure and simple, don't worry about it.
>>96552304You have to be a friendless loser to make Icon of Icons unviable.
>>96552403Anon stop replying to the same post a dozen times.
>>96552411Everyone is just repeating the same truth.
>>96552378>I still find it weird that Yphont parents are not mentioned by name in the Outsiders page.>600 years ago>Rchucuphre: 666 years old Maevian Dark ElfNow I doubt that Yphont is even died at all.
>>96552308>>96552312>>96552313>>96552359>>96552375>>96552403You know what voices in my head, you all make good points. Though I really thought I only had one of you up there. Must be that Icons of Icons multiplier working already. Already got the budget numbers worked out but might take another lookover to see if I want to spare something, but the raw multiplier is in. Time to beat Charlotte with the sheer amount of bullshit power boosts that makes any use of her Deus Ex Machina a logic error.
>>96552425Anon, you're too obvious.
>>96552432I only responded to that guy one time. It's not my fault Icon of Icons truthers are so common.
>>96552304Even the entirely friendless Uruks take Ikona Ikon. It's just that good.
>>96552440And yet you replied to it again.
>>96547410If you extend Jdan's lifespan/make him immortal in his iteration or you survive for a super long time in Germinara's iteration, making their time on the chair upwards to thousands or (probably not) millions of years, is it possible for one or two iteration scrapping to blow up the world?
>>96552426The problem with this theory is there's no undead Drow in the CYOA for her father to be that would justify hiding his identity as her father.
>>96547410Are Ielziaseh and Rhucuphre the only characters described as completely insane?>Ielziaseh: The only word that can describe her now is "mad.">Rhucuphre: Utterly unhinged.
>>96552521Yes, because they're dark-skinned.
>>96552483Unlikely, simply because fate won't let you destroy the setting so much that it can't resolve itself. However, if you want to drown the world in nightmare, it's not too hard to sit on the chair yourself. You just have to be willing to deal with the boredom of it.
>>96552546Thank you anon, you've helped me to realize why I dislike how the Elder Gods are portrayed.
>>96552539Y-You forgot "Elven"...
>>96552556What is it that you hate about the Elder Gods' portrayal?
>>96552556You hate that they don't let you destroy the world?
>>96552585*They insist on making you play through the tutorial before destroying the world.
>>96552598There's no point in letting you destroy the world unless you gain Meaning from it.
>>96552601just like The Dragon? I wonder if ~100 anons dumped into a world would devolve into something similar or worse than a Dragon purposefully murder raping his way across the world?
>>96552601Temperantia is a perfectly legal quest for me to take, anon. And the burning question about the setting that I want to answer is "can I destroy the world by sitting on a chair too hard?"
>>96552623>can I destroy the world by sitting on a chair too hard?the ultimate neet fantasy
>>96552521How does one permanently romance Ielziaseh when she Greater Yuses herself everyday?
>>96552621Were the dragons horrible murderrapists because they were solipsists, or did they become solipsists to hide from the murderrape that they needed to perform in persuit of worldly divinity?
>>96552645There are different ways to go about worldly divinity. We don't really know why they chose their specific one.
>>96551756Make an updated one for the gifts, mothers, fathers, mentors, and companions.
>>96552661They simply had to go with muderrape. It was essential for ascension. Probably.
>>96552732Maybe the REAL ascension to Godhood was the people we murdered and raped along the way?
>>96552661I think they're just assholes desu
Isn't Dragon divinity just stealing other's divinity in ritual sacrifice?
>long ago the POWERFUL AND MIGHT RAPE DRAGONS RULED THE EARTH>"why did we make rapedragons?">THEY ADDED TO THE PLOT>"But, I really didn't like all the blood and juices that soaked the earth">IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE METAL
>>96552795Its aura farming yourself to importance by killing lots of people, forcing the story to accept you as important and divine.
>>96552795Nah, Tankista said that the Elder Gods would have been setting up a reverse-jesus situation if that were possible. It's not even necessarily grim, the true dragons were just assholes.
>>96552743As JNPL intended.
>>96552816Honestly not a bad strategy until the protagonists appeared and used dominion over fate to shatter them repeatedly into extinction.
>>96552830That's why I'll be different.
>>96552830Hey even afterwards, the setting got damn near 1000 years of villains to kill and a cute dragongirl waifu out of it. That's gotta be worth at least an outsider-companionship's worth of godhood xp
>>96552849>xpcharlie won btw
>>96552866Charlie is afraid to even try and take on Ytorusha, who only managed to stalemate the True Dragons.
>>96552207>>96552210I wish someone made builds for me...
>>96552974I, the great and all-autistic bug tranny shall do so. Give your ideas and I shall waste more of my time for (you).
>>96552644You have to understand her Heart, so that even if you're tricked by whatever faces she wears, you're still speaking to her. Same trick as always.
>>96552990
>morning in Europe>bug tranny appearsI hate g*rmans.
>>96552990NTA but I'm currently writing a story about an Ersatz Reincarnee being a clerical healer nice girl.I wonder how close to that archetype you can get with building. Alternatively, I want to see a build that destroy Doria. Breaking the Old Throne, civil war with the Blue-White, killing Dirk for the Lichyard, dismantling the Daemonhunt, things like that.I can't be the only one curious about how much damage Eleventh can do.
>>96553006IIRC our europosters are french, not german.
>>96553022That would definitely explain why he showboated and pointed out his own samefagging. He is probably the same anon calling him out too.
>>96553028>pointed out his own samefaggingI still don't understand the logic in that, in any context.
What is the story with MiCha anyway? I noted fairly recently something in the last page of the Light Overlord Isekai suggesting something had happened to him?
>>96551756Is this for just the tide or all builds ?
>>96553018For the Healer girl idea, you want the bare package for Mentors and Companions or a full package?Thinking about going with a Muddish / Sierogrivian sickly girl who became a healer after being spending most of her youth around church healers in the Sierogrivian Basin due to her Hybrid disease.
>>96553079A full package. There is no reason to limit the build - it's just a fun idea.
>>96553038Anons killed him over some Elite drama or whatever
>>96547024Missed this one from the last thread! Fuck your fancy shmancy overpowered powerlevelling bullshit, all I need is a glaive, like the one Dimitri uses from Fire Emblem Three Houses. And a wheellock pistol, it is the age of gunpowder after all. I'll beat my enemies with raw grit and cold steel. Or at least go out with a bang. It'll look cool and be recorded in the history books that I looked awesome I suppose.>>96548117I feel you friend, I wanted to take Dobrava and Blazhiko since I thought they would make for a good story, but ah well, slots do run out. On the flip side, I'm sure I could try to find them manually. That's my idea, since I just wanted to lock in the characters I really wanted to have a proper story. If any anons come across into Zelo that take them, I'd be pretty happy and willing to work with them! Assuming they aren't against my goals, of course, though depending on what that is I might be willing to negotiate.>>96549457I know we aren't in the same world (I'm in Zelo), but man, what I would give to have my guy fight alongside yours. I've always really liked your concept. Keep it up anon.>>96552232As I've said many times before, we will post Outer Reincarnation every day until you like it.
>>96553093>Anons killed him over some Elite drama or whateverIn the sense of "annoyed him into not returning," or was this an assassination?
>>96553109Months of bitching and moaning over rebalancing elite units to cost slightly more than basic units.
>>96553122Yes, I do remember that happening, I just didn't realize it ended in any particularly conclusive way.
>>96551361Damn I wish more of the encounters were location: any
>>96551584Your list is more correct from what I've checked (didn't go too far). The problem is, it is more correct mainly due to the nuking of around 10 builds, people editing their builds when there are already 30+ Outsiders after them and hermitage checking messing with the chronological order in my version.I didn't recalculate the table each time for the whole tide both because it is a lot of work (which the program makes a nonissue) and because it turns everything down the line into a total chaos.This edit, for example, completely fucks up Zhivete and Zelo, while moving a lot of people from their worlds in other places. And it is bound to happen again next time someone edits their build or makes a coming out. It makes writing interactions and planning practically pointless. So, as a rule, I didn't transfer people from the established worlds unless they asked for it, even if it resulted in small inconsistencies.>>96551489Thank you for illustrating my point.
>>96552257Keter as adoptive mom.
>>96553034He's a tok-tier narcissistic that gets off on being the centre of attention no matter how negative said attention is.
>>96553383Shouldn't he be in /mcyoag/?
Rolled 26, 88, 19, 28, 58, 33, 31, 84, 34, 1, 65 = 467 (11d100)>>96547410>>96547430Reposting Ersatz Reincarnation so I can roll a build
>>96553417>isekai'd into OR>but it's ErsatzDo you make it?
Rolled 97, 24, 98, 25, 56, 72, 74, 25, 77, 87, 100 = 735 (11d100)>>96553417What function does the empty space fulfill?Anyway, I'm gonna roll for my Yee reincarnation that's gonna show up as a stranger when the 12th (my protegé back when I was the 11th) needs me the most.
Rolled 53, 18, 66, 39, 13, 41, 18, 35, 64, 56, 17 = 420 (11d100)>>96553417Am I going to make it bros?
>>96551760This could be a lot of extra effort or basically none depending on how you formatted things but could you see how worlds turn out if you ignore mentors completely? Just parent and companion conflicts given there's nothing stopping you from teaching 2 people at once.
>>96553471It will conflict with their letters, Dice Fudge and Untimeskip.
>>96553453Giftless, tall, and somewhat thin, Muddish/Kristi halfbreed girl raised by warriors.
>>96553453>>96553540>m*d/kr*sti halfbreed>no giftsYeah this one isn't saving the day.
Rolled 51, 61, 5, 38, 43, 88, 15, 76, 17, 11, 48 = 453 (11d100)
>>96553417Rolled 26, 88, 19, 28, 58, 33, 31, 84, 34, 1, 65 = 467 (11d100)26 - Born 7 years before 11th Outsider88 - Female19 - Your parents are of the same race.28 - Human Muddish58 - Skipped33 - Servant Parents31 - Somewhat Short Height84 - Normal Figure34>35>36 - All Glimpse1 - Ethereal Beauty65 - Dead SprintI'm the daughter of a butler and maid serving an Old Throne noble house who freakishly happened to have All Glimpse thanks to 0^0's mischief. My All Glimpse meant I could see the workings of Warmachina which are Old Throne state secrets forcing me into working for the Old Throne from a young age. My All Glimpse caught the attention of King Jdan, making me a personal maid to him who advises him with my All Glimpse and knowledge of Earth. King Jdan gave me a good education to make use of my talents. I work with Warmachina experts like Taiya to make inventions based on Earth ideas like drones, rifles to replace muskets, aircraft carriers for the Old Throne navy, etc but progress is slow without Mind perks. I told King Jdan of a great inventor in the dwarf Brastat and he sent Vesryn of the Doria south to Mamet to locate Brastat and secure his service. I also told the King of Nezvana's talents for creating seemingly impossible combinations of different skills and talents, managed to get her as leader of the R&D team.(1/2)
>>96553571My Ethereal Beauty meant many nobles, even highlords, are smitten with me, though I'm holding out for someone who will make me their official wife instead of just some mistress. My Dead Sprint meant I take morning jogs often to keep myself healthy, though the guards King Jdan appoints to keep me safe are annoying. I can see through all palace intrigues with All Glimpse and King Jdan always intervenes with his foresight to make sure nobody tries to assassinate me so I'm probably the most relaxed court official in the King's retinue.Serebryanka wasn't chosen to be the mother of the 11th so I made sure to befriend her and keep her company. I found Savmak in the Lost City as well and got her adopted into the Ordo-Dorian family. I'm working on trying to get the girl to abandon her vengeance and just live a normal life but she's stubborn. Helping the Fourth Outsider out of the sword is beyond my capabilities, but I'm working on figuring out a way to communicate with him. I'm curious to hear what kind of person he is from him directly. I told King Jdan that he's neglecting his daughter Geminara, which got me a scolding and an assignment to Geminara on my Saturdays. Losing a weekend day off sucks but reading books with Geminara and keeping her company is not a bad way to spend a day.All in all, it's a pretty good life I've got. Even if I'm not an Outsider I'm basically Mother or Mentor material.(2/2)
>>96553578>Mother Material>>96553571>Born 7 years before 11th OutsiderCompanion or Mentor, take it or leave it
Rolled 73, 73, 78, 32, 95, 32, 71, 19, 39, 48, 45 = 605 (11d100)>>96553453SRTR Bless me!Please!
>>96553588Mother in the sense of my random inborn gifts that doesn't synergize but can be passed to an Outsider but yeah I guess I'm too young to be a mother or mentor. Companion then.
>>96553595Shame about being a Majin when you could have had Icon of Icons.
Rolled 38 (1d45)>>96553595Rolling for Majin letter
>>96553612>lesser yusWhat does that even do? Also, damn I'm going to be ugly. Dangerously fat figure with a late Majin letter.
>>96553615Just nudge your 95 to 96, 39 to 38, and 45 to 44 for a better build.
>>96553615I assume its breaking things down into their most basic components. Good for crafting and maybe battle if the effect is fast on opponents.
Rolled 82, 57, 20, 48, 49, 15, 60, 97, 75, 70, 62 = 635 (11d100)>>96553453Rolling
>>96553626Going to usurp [YRMD] for giving out such shitty rolls. She won't hear me coming.
>>96553615Dangerously fat and very tall, You're ganna be an absolute UNITAlong with mitigating grip you're gonna put fear in anyone dumb enough to stand against you. A real Dark Souls boss type.
>>96551760Thank you dearly codeanon
>>96553615>What does that even do?Pick.You get an ability to spawn clones in the style of budget Daemonhost but they are based around you rather than being entirely new beings.You get an ability to manifest multiple minds and you can make them work in tandem, thus allowing you to replicate some of mental gifts by virtue of applying those new-found mind powers into specific fields (Cognitive Speed, Attentiveness etc).You get an ability control over mind and consciousness allowing you to affect other minds and your own like putting parts of brain to sleep at the time eliminating need to sleep fully, block certain thoughts and memories or extract them from targets.You get an ability to create an imprint of your mind or mind of someone else and force that imprint on others granting you a very conditional form of "immortality" or an ability to "resurrect" your allies in new body.
I would your build
>>96553691I would Thaumaradrak
>>96553698You would anything feminine looking.
>>96553698Everyone would, she is cute.
>>96553698Cope and seethe.All your builds are banned, tranny freak.
>>96553691My build is married, sorry.
>>96553691My build has Bitter Sickness. Are you sure, anon?
>>96553767NTA but that malady wouldn't stop me .
>>96553767NTA but I would even Eternal Curse.
>>9655345373 - 2 years before the 11th Outsider73 - Male78 - Parents are of different races, inherits father's race32 - Mother is Muddish95 - Father is a Majin32 - Parents are servants71 - Somewhat tall19 - Tends towards a dangerously fat figure39>40 - Enochian Brand48>49 - Magician's Hand45>46 - God HandMajin Spell - Lesser Yus: The ability to manifest multiple minds and make them work in tandem, thus allowing one to replicate some mental gifts by virtue of applying those newfound mind powers into specific fields (Cognitive Speed, Attentiveness, etc).I choose to believe I was born in the Empire of Light and Dark as the son of Majin Butler and Maid. Once I've grown old enough to be able to do my own thing, I'll join the Daemonhunt as an easy way to get spellcasting training, work against Pandaemonium since I don't have Outsider fate hax to give me an in, and to remind everyone that, despite Pandaemonium's not every Majin is evil. Assuming I don't end up killing myself with my Enochian Brand, I'm set up to become an extremely potent spellcaster. My letter ability, combined with Enochian Brand, should make me capable of multicasting, so I can cast multiple spells quickly and silently. The only danger is exhausting myself, depending on how exhaustion from spellcasting works. >>96553691Are you sure?
>>96553781>God HandActually, swap this to Deathless Grasp, I forgot it made it harder to be blessed.I'm not gonna make it, am I, anons?
>>96553800You have silent multicasting from Yus and Brand, Hand to spam it even more egregiously and an army of undead to complement it.You could easily be a Companion.
Rolled 47, 54, 70, 43, 48, 85, 66, 53, 91, 79, 89 = 725 (11d100)>>96553453Gimme sum good shit
>>96553781>>96553800>>96553809Companion material 100%.
>>96553826>no gift for all three Fuck you too [YRMD]
>>9655382647 - 5 years before54 - female70 - Mother's race43 - Tumen(Black)48 - Northerner85 - Wealthy Merchants66 - Somewhat Tall53 - Tends toward bulky, bodybuilder-like figure91 - Nothing79 - Nothing89 - NothingI'm not sure what sis is complaining about; it seems like she got a pretty good deal, even if she didn't receive any gifts.
>>9655362682 - 1 year before57 - Male/Female if nudged20 - Both parents have the same race48 - Northerner49 - Ignored, but also a Northerner15 - Beggars/Lavorers if nudged60 - Average/Somewhat tall if nudged97 - Born with a strange and unlikely figure75 - Nothing70 - Nothing 62 - Nothing>>96553629Valid desu, I'd be mad too
In OR, is there anything said about how magical items are made and if it's hard or require gifts? There are no mentors specifically teaching that so I dunno if it's just standard magic that can he d9ne by anyone.
>>96553925>There are no mentors specifically teaching thatIrmtrod can teach you if you wine and dine her.
Reminder that you can dice fudge parent candidates into mentors, and some of them have some valuable stuff to teach.
>>96553950Dice fudge is too expensive. Every time you do it, you lose out on a slot, two if you have fay, from an AP perspective.
>>96553925Ragratelyn at the very least knows about alchemy and it's apparently a pretty hard and rare art.
>>96553924>LavorersIt's over..
>>96553925Not really and it sucks. Making magical items and enchantments is my favorite genre of magic and all there is about it is Irmtrod's and Ragratelyn's parenthood sections.All I know is that enchanting and making magical items are two separate practices.The dwarves also have some method to make scrolls that may or may not be related.
>>96553034I'll take the dominant course
Rolled 44, 10, 96, 60, 10, 66, 79, 53, 17, 90, 34 = 559 (11d100)>>96553453Mom! [YRMD] is bullying me!
>the only noteworthy ersatz outsiders are either muddish or have muddish parentsTankista's bias is seeping into the rolls somehow
>>96553996What's it going to be anon? Be a Sidhe? Or have hybrid sickness?
>>96553997Even you will one day return to mud
>>96553996>elf immortality AND all glimpseAnon's mom is stronger than YMRD
>>96553997Favorite human race of [SRTR] btw
>>96554014Can you nudge the same die more than once?
>>96554018I dont think the anon who made the ersatz reincarnation cyoa ever commented on this. Personally I'd say it shouldn't be a problem since the cyoa doesn't explicitly rule against it and its hard enough to get a functional build with the rules as is.
>>96554007>>96554014Nah I'll use one dice fudge to retain my male genitalia. Skipping agelessness sucks but I'd rather be a Southlander/Tempered hybrid freak than a woman. All-Glimpse is pretty nice though.
Rolled 36, 49, 84, 9, 51, 60, 87, 94, 63, 69, 59 = 661 (11d100)>>96553453rollan
Rolled 19, 41, 46, 92, 8, 42, 14, 43, 64, 24, 56 = 449 (11d100)>>96553453I put all my trust in [YMRD].
Rolled 13, 37, 2, 32, 50, 99, 25, 86, 78, 30, 65 = 517 (11d100)>>96553453
>>96554014My mom is [JNPL] so of course she's stronger.
>>96553777Make a choice then, Yphont or Rhucuphre?
>>96554064>8 years before the 11th>male>same race>Tumen (red)>special operatives>somewhat short>normal figure>jet kick (nudged -1), Eye for Shadows (nudged -1)actually pretty cool
>>96554081I choose to believe that my parents kicked down so many doors that it turned into a gift
Rolled 91, 31, 55, 18, 24, 1, 8, 85, 71, 84, 31 = 499 (11d100)this build will slay 0^0! or not
>>96554127>year of the 11th>male>same race>muddish>muddish>petty criminals>very short>normal figure>starsightrip
Rolled 7, 28, 74, 24, 89, 88, 1, 48, 96, 3, 42 = 500 (11d100)one more for good measureymrd pls
>>96554059>8 years before>Male>Same race parents>Drakonid (Majin Nudged -1)>Ignored roll>Poor Hunter/Farmer/Gatherers>Very Short>Fit, Swimmer-Like Figure>Noble Inclination, Overstep, Jet KickI'm picturing a jesus-like figure in the Dragon King's Most Divine Realm. Tiny fit manlet with Noble Inclination, hes perfectly positioned to look harmless while building a following in the non-drakonids of the continent. Perhaps my goal could be to bring back True Dragon Solipism, starting with gaining a cult following? Maybe just starting a non-evil dragon empire. Who could say?
>>96554069Rhucuphre.Yphont is too good hearted and noble for me.
>>96553960YMRD got this covered. She really wants us to nerd out over all availible lore.
>>96554139Pantorai...
>>96554148Yphont was one of the most evil Outsiders.
>>96554135>9 years before>female>mother's race>muddish mother>beastfolk father>bureaucrats>abnormally short (likely health complications)>fit, swimmer-like figure>bestial strength (nudged -1), azure wreath (nudged -1)well shitat least I'm strong
If you get isekaied to OR and can only have a single ×3 Autoantecedence Gift. Which one would it be?
>>96554160Maker's Brush x3
>>96553453YMRD will give me icon of icons if I simply believe hard enough
>>96554148>mystery box opensYphont would have dommed you in the best Maevian traditions to relieve the stress from dealing with those fucktards from the Eternal Empire.Rhucuphre wants to relax from being an evil mastermind and tried everything under the sheets in her long life. She prefers long dates and meaningful handholding.
Rolled 64, 43, 81, 65, 59, 54, 96, 73, 68, 69, 61 = 733 (11d100)>>96554167I messed up the roll :(
>>96554160Spirit Tap.
>>96554155Proof or gay.
>>96554160Fighter's Eye x3
>>96554184NTA but she almost exterminated an entire set of races (uruks) and if she was good person Hero Erginter wouldn't have killed her.
>>96554160Starsight x3. Being a mage without the caster talents is hard, but this will substitute nicely.
>>96554160Sight Beyond Sight x3
>>96554209
>>96554160Panarmament.I can do most anything as long as it involves a tool. I'd be able to start a new life no matter where I end up, defend myself expertly, pilot warmachina, and do almost all kinds of work.
>>96554160soul revolving x3
>>96554160panarmamentbeat up the Savmak girl and take her sword
>>96554184>Killed the hero Xian>Inspired Erginter to be evil because she was such an easy target>Set up Ota to genocide the Majin>Destroyed the Underground>Sent the Drow to the Orthrung which made them worse and caused 0^0>Also caused most elves to die>Choosing Wu'ut led to Lu'ut's existence>Cowardly attacked the noble Dwarfs after she failed to intimidate them>Murdered countless Uruk>Made Tuzik a loser>Ultimately responsible for Morlock tyranny>Removed the warmachina from the moon that YMRD needed>Created the Kingdom of All Humans, a tyrannical warmongering state that destabilized Doria>Wasted a point on Vigilant Strand>Wasn't cuteShe was the worst Outsider of all time
>>96554244>no fate protection>no skill>no gifts>beat up a girl with All-Glimpse and Savmak's gifts, who survived the Old City all by herselfGreat plan! Why don't you mug Tamura while you are at it?
>>96554160Greatriding Spurs x3, if I am going to be individually weak I might as well rely on army of monstrous beasts for my safety. Autoantecedence would allow me to empower and evolve my beasts like Pokémons.
>>96554269I'm built different
>>96554230Facts:-Erginter is worshipped by the Exarchate for her heroic deeds-Yphont was only worshipped by a bunch of scheming dark elves, and in the modern era is only worshipped by a singular dwarf girl. Who's the real hero here?
>>96554269Unironically I think a busted x3 Panarmament ability would have a chance against her. Remember that All-Glimpse is limited by range and the sword is as much a weakness as it is a strength.
>>96554266>Wasn't cuteThere has to be a limit to slander right?
>>96554266>Wasn't cuteJust for this I will defile Erginter's corpse
>>96554287All-Glimpse's range is fucking huge.
>>96554266>Inspired Erginter to be evil because she was such an easy targetnta but how is this her fault? that's like blaming a rape victim for being as such an easy target- oh wait...
>>96554298just find some outsider relic that has equip restrictions or that nobody knows how to operateshould be plenty of things like that lying around
>>96554298Dirk is a special case, you don't start at his range with normal All-Glimpse.
>>96554304Are you planning to steal One's sword back from Saevel?
>>96554312Default All-Glimpse still has a huge range, even if it's not at Dirk's level.
>>96554269Panarmament x2 alone is enough to deal with any glimpse user. Its basically the Gate of Babylon. Yeah they can see the thousands bullets and hundred cannon rounds coming towards them, but that won't matter if they can never dodge them all.
>>96554312Even if I grant you that claim it doesn't matter. You could be multiple orders of magnitude below Dirk and your All-Glimpse would still be tremendous. The "All-Glimpse is dogshit for everyone but Dirk" argument is going too far nowadays.
>>96554320>Default All-Glimpse still has a huge range, even if it's not at Dirk's level.Source? Ratibor who's an experienced All-Glimpse user only caught Araith when he was passing by her.>>96554328I too find "All-Glimpse makes you omniscient and invincible" claim to be going too far nowadays.
>>96554328Yeah people tend to both overestimate and underestimate it.It a powerful gift that still relies on practice and ability to understand the Meaning of what you see.
>>96554352Passing by a small island in the middle of nowhere.
what are the best/strongest royal claims that you can obtain?
This place is so smelly
>>96554352>Full awareness of everything occurring within a wide range from youWhat's a wide range to you? Also>when he was passing by her.It doesn't say that, the exact wording is>wandering muddish dragonfighter who just happened to be passing byNothing here suggests he was close to her when he noticed. Just close to her island.
>>96554352It's not reasonable to assume that Dirk's range is 999999999 times better than anyone else with All-Glimpse and Malkuth is a big kingdom.
>>96554353>people tend to both overestimate and underestimate itI feel like that applies to Icon of Icons and Daemonhost too.
>>96554360>>96554375Yes I'm sure "passing by" means "he was actually standing on the Doria when he caught glimpse of Araith". This is a very faithful and totally not dishonest interpretation of the sentence.
>>96554364The Empire of course. Its single handedly holding back the Eucumene.
>>96554406You are clearly the one who is making bad faith arguments here.
>>96554406>This is a very faithful and totally not dishonest interpretation of the sentence.But him needing to be standing next to her for her to be in his "wide range" is right?
>>96554364Exarchate, then marry Kalliopa
>>96554406>he was actually standing on the Doria when he caught glimpse of AraithHoly fucking shit, retard. There is a range in between the entire world and 10 meters. It's also directly contradictory to what both said.>close to her island>passing by a small island
>>96554364>born to Old Throne dad and Malkuth mom to stop their war>married to Kalliopa to get the Empire>if a girl, inherit Dis when Thaumiel steps down; if a boy, make Apantoxia and then get rid of Paxxia>claim the Exarchate as an Outsider/Emperor of Light and DarkAll of the Doria continent is under you.Alternatively:>born to Old Throne dad and Malkuth mom to stop their war>dice fudge Simka into a Companion and marry herWith this kind of support, you can suddenly overrun the entire Mamet continent (other than Stygia) and restore the Old Throne's colonial empire.
>>96554404The only thing anons overestimate when it comes to Icon of Icons is there delusional belief that they'll magically become a charming extrovert who makes friends as easily as breathing.
>>96554404That's true. Honestly it happens with characters as well.Is Rhucuphere the unstoppable mastermind behind everything that's happened in recorded history or just a sneaky wizard with a grudge?
>>96554404Nah, Icon of Icons is fucking busted if you take it as written. It's not overestimated.And Daemonhost is clearly a big deal, every Demon Lord is treated as a big deal. It's a big deal.
>>96554431>they'll magically become a charming extrovert who makes friends as easily as breathing.Yes? It's called Noble Inclination....you did take noble inclination, right?
>>96554448>Only has noble inclination>Didn't take Leif as a mentor/dadngmi
>>96554429I don't get it. Why will Thaumiel only let girls inherit Dis? Is she sexist?Yes I know she'll only teach girls, if you were about to parrot that then shush
>>96554448Noble Inclination certainly helps if you're going the "gathering large amounts of followers" route which only gives a fraction of what friends give. With Noble Inclination you become a leader, not a friend. Becoming genuine friends with someone requires much more than merely acting confident. I'm not saying it won't help, bu you're delusional if you think Noble Inclination is enough to offset the natural unlikable/antisocial personalities of most anons.
>>96554458Why would someone ever take Leif as a mentor Naphinae is both better and cheaper as a social mentor
>>96554480>THAT!!!!!!!!! WOULDN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>I CAN'T MAKE FRIENDS SO NOBODY CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This sort of autism is extremely unlikeable.
>>96554480Anon...I hate to break it for you but people with better social skills tend to make more and better friends
>>96554480It should help with making friends too it's primeraly a social sense Gift . "You will intuitively understand how to act in social situations and take charge of them."
>>96554494>incoherent seething and strawmanTry again, but this time with less retardation and more concrete arguments.>>96554500>>96554515I 100% agree with you anons, Noble Inclination will invaluable during the first stages of friendships. Unfortunately merely making "friends" isn't gonna cut when it comes to Icon of Icons. You need "genuinely close friends" something Noble Inclination doesn't help you with at all.
Thanks for reminding me to seethe about Zhuchka being such a massive human dickrider
>>96554480While it is true that the type of person suitable to be a politician isn't particularly more likely to make many genuine friends, Noble Inclination would probably help because it directly gives the social skills without any of the work. Most anons lack the caution that would prevent them from doing so, even if it means they will all become Nilmatrix victims.
>>96554431I think it is worth it even if you only have a few friends.
>>96554531As long as they think they are a genuine friend it should work as it feeds on the people's hope your own opinion on the friendship doesn't seem to be a factor it can be pure social manipulation and would still probably work
>>96554475She's gay.
>>96554442Practically, isn't she OR's equivalent of Divayth Fyr? I'm going to believe that she's still limited to one self, but she can do practically anything just from a millenium-long accrued knowledge of the script.
>>96554475The technique only works for women so men are unable to learn from her, which has some disturbing connotations
>>96554531>>YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that bad huh
>>96547410Considering that Thaumiel's nightmare spawning, and that it specifically tied to being a woman, does this imply that you could make a magic that exploits you being a man to "impregnate" the Nightmare?
>>96554599Still think she is some long term YMRDian plot to end the world, I don't really think you can hide anything from an elder god
>>96554632>I don't really think you can hide anything from an elder godNah, I could 100% see SRTR and YMRD stop paying as much attention if you're boring enough.
>>96554599>Divayth FyrWho?
>>96554605For some even more disturbing connotations, here's what you would get if you used Dirk on Thaumiel while male.>Yes, but it will be much worse. And you'd still need female targets to utilize it. The result you'd get is an unrefined technique similar to that which the Demon Lords of Dis used to possess to create the nightmares below their tower.
>>96554627Maybe, but sounds like it would spawn some too chaotic and powerful abomination that would cause a disaster in the local region
>>96554632Arguing about whether or not she's [YMRD]'s piece or an independent agent is in the same category as arguing about whether or not Charlie was [SRTR]'s piece or an independent agent I feel. I dislike arguments that implies more power to the Gods when one of them being usurped is part of the CYOA's bigger plot, so I lean more on the free agent side of things. I wonder if Tuzik's whole doing nothing was specifically a scheme with the Gods to cripple any plot Rhucuphre was doing with the Terrestrial Entente. Using Providence to make nothing happen on Orthrung until Tuzik dies.
>>96554627>it specifically tied to being a womanwas this confirmed by tank?
>>96554676I personally don't even think free agents can even exists in OR thre story is already written your only in the middle of it, all is predestined by the godscript
>>96554700>t. Causalityfag
>>96554605>>96554656Real rapist Outsiders are all Thaumiel sisters.
>>96554706It's providencefagging actually
>>96554700Exactly. Everything is already clear from the first page. JNPL writes everyone’s story until she relinquishes her control over certain people to SRTR or YMRD.
>>96554706That's not CausalityCHAD
>>96554729Who handles your later reincarnations?
>>96554743Most likely an system made by JNPL so I guess by extension JNPL
>>96554729>>96554700It is contradicted by the YMRD description. Thanks to her Elder Gods are more DM's than writers. They absolutely can railroad any plot they want, but most of the time they allow randomness and agency to exist.
>>96554700>>96554716>>96554729[JNPL] would you have believe that her plan was inevitable and perfect and undeniable, that Charlie's whole rebellion is stupid and undeserved and meaningless, but Providence was usurped anyway. Charlie's whole "Everything besides the thing before it doesn't matter" reeks of predestination bullshit, and that's the reason why it's the thing that actually beats [JNPL]'s "Everything has an inherent meaning."
The Dark Lord of Doria>patronSRTR>perksHalfbreedAdoptionDice FudgeUntimeskip x4 (mentors, Everman/Auburn)True Love (Kalliopa Aureole)Extra Companion x4>parentsMaiosara Yesod Vadim Jdan (dice fudge + adoption)>raceMuddish/Southlander>languagesQuietened: NympheTutored: Apantoxia, EvermanEvermanAuburnBenewhisperSimplified Duergar>locationArcadia>giftsRoyal Claim (Old Throne, Malkuth)Warmachina MountingNoble InclinationIntelligenceMisalliance: Maiosara YesodWereplague x2Bitter SicknessHybrid DiseaseStarsight x2Icon of IconsBlazing SealEsurient Walk x3AutoantecedenceCognitive SpeedMemory RetentionAttentivenessSpiritual FeelCaster IntuitionMartial InstinctBestial StrengthBoiling BloodSecond WindEthereal BeautyThoroughbreeding>mentors: 3 slotsPukluxunLukag>companions: 7 slotsKalliopa AureoleApantoxiaSavmakBrastat, Syn Rarruta>encountersOn Sick Leave (Kalliopa Aureole)A Calm and a Storm (Savmak)Let the Purgation Begin (Lukag)Hidden Amidst the Clouds (Apantoxia)Just a Nightmare (Pukluxun)In My Machine Spirit (Brastat)A Bridge, a Troll, a TollA Score of OrcsA Band of OgresA Hop, a Lean, a HobgoblinA Pack of Goblins>deathsThe Dark Lord of Doria: BukiMaiosara Yesod: SlovoVadim Sacro-Ionian: ZeloJdan: ShtaPukluxun: TsyLukag: Yat+ZemlyaKalliopa: Greater YusApantoxia: Iotated Lesser Yus + ZhiveteSavmak: Iotated Greater YusBrastat: Lesser Yus
>choice isn't possible in OR>meanwhile we make choices from the start>providence/fate means the Gods control everything you do>meanwhile the only time these forces manifest is to bring about some events at some point in your life>even those events aren't fixed in how they might come about or turn out
>>96554777Bug tranny, stop ban evading.
>>96554787It is not a tide build she can do whatever. How did you determine the authorship, anyway?
>>96554763Which still doesn't make you a free agent it just makes you a random agent controlled by YMRDs dice so your story is either directly authored by the gods or it's just a roll of the cosmic dice
>>96554798>Bitter Sickness, Wereplague x2, Icon of Icons, Autoantecedence, Misalliance: MaiosaraThe exact munchkinny bullshit every one of its builds had.
How did Malkuthfags get /cyoag/ access
>>96554784>meanwhile we make choices from the startThe idea is that your choices are priced in. You are fated to make the choices exactly as you make them. If you didn't, you wouldn't be made to reincarnate to fill a certain slot to begin with
>>96554817And yet I can make different choices. Curious!
>>96554800In the absence of a personal agency SRTR's whole modus operandi doesn't make sense. She gives challenges and provides second chances. She cares for the success of her chosen. None of it would be formulated this way if there were no place for a personal choice inherent in the system and SRTR could just see the conclusion in advance.Combined with YMRD enforcing the existence of randomness, there is enough space for independent action that can surprise even gods, as was proven by Charlie and Rhucuphre. The world with just JNPL would be mostly predestined, but she is not the only arbiter.
>>96554821You think you can make different choices, but you end up making a specific build in the end, which just so happens to be exactly the kind of build the story required at that point of time
>>96554784It's quite simple really the player is an outer god they write the story the choose everything, this is the reason why you can choose the blessing of SRTR and do whatever you want, your the writer this is your story you determine what happens in it there are no free agents everything is written and determined by you
>>96554832The Throne are literally the seats of Divinity per Sarmat description so it's more like we are on the cusp. Meta wise it is rather that writing up a build is not quite Authorship but it is writing and creation of a lesser kind.
>>96554828No contradiction her pillar is literally the pillar of fate, think of the characters like DND characters she makes character arcs for them and plots, but in the end everything is railroaded to reach some goal
>>96554787>>96554798>>96554808I'm not bug tranny you fucking retard. It's a solo build>>96554777>youthLeadership TrainingMagical TrainingMartial TrainingPower Testing>questFundamentum>descriptionYou are all treating 0^0 as if she is the final boss. That's wrong. I am the final boss. Charlie should be scared of me, and what I can do. Not the other way around.My father is Vadim Sacro-Ionian and my mother is Maiosara Yesod. This gives me claim to both the Old Throne and Malkuth. Furthermore, I am adopted by Jdan himself. Given that Kuz'ma will betray us and side with Charlie, I expect to be the one nominated to become king of the Old Throne. I should be able to marry into the Empire of Light and Dark with the True Love I have placed on Kalliopa Aureole. Apantoxia (who will have all of my gifts thanks to thoroughbreeding) should help me overthrow Paxxia and take control of the Dragon King's Most Divine Realm, and my outsider status + Savmak + the "Calm and a Storm" encounter should allow me to seize control of the Exarchate.That's all the kingdoms of Doria united under one banner. With Icon of Icons, that on it's own is a massive power boost. But I will not be a mundane king. Using the untimeskipped teachings of Pukluxun and whatever Apantoxia and I discover of True Dragon Solipsism, I will create an imperial cult to create my own worldly divinity. 1/2
>>96554266>Sent the Drow to the Orthrung which made them worse and caused 0^0The Drow in Orthrung had nothing to do with Charlotte, she was enslaved by High Elves, the Drow had their own country called Fay.
>>96554857There are very different approaches to playing DnD, railroading to the inevitable conclusion is not the only one. It is ambigious how much she meddles, but it is certainly possible to fail or choose your own goal. Just look at Charlie again, she was SRTR's protege.
>>96554866>You are all treating 0^0 as if she is the final boss. That's wrong. I am the final boss. Charlie should be scared of me, and what I can do. Not the other way around.>Wereplague x2>Bitter Sickness>Hybrid Disease>A Bridge, a Troll, a Toll>A Score of Orcs>A Band of Ogres>A Hop, a Lean, a Hobgoblin>A Pack of Goblins
>>96554877He is his own final boss, I don't see what's wrong with his statement.
>>96554877Anon, chill out. Bugtranny doesn't have a monopoly on powerplaying. He is just a chosen of SRTR who wants to be epic.
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>>96554873Under the elder god predestination assumption even Charlie's choices and the flame ascent would have been orchestrated by the elder gods
>>96554910It is interesting so it is allowed.
>choose to uproot your family>being poor they end up signing an indenture to survive in a foreign land>no mention of force or coercion in this>REEEEEEEE SLAVERY
>>96554910Damn auto correct. False ascent not flame ascent
>>96554910So, you assume that everything is predetermined based on the gods description yet when it is mentioned in the same description that the False Ascent was unplanned and an enormous amount of potential Meaning was lost due to it, you discard it along with every other paragraph introducing the forces besides Providence? This is some mighty cherrypicking.
>>96554866>Since I forgot to say, my autoantecedence ability allows me to activate Esurient Walk without having to move fast. This allows me to move in bursts of extreme speed or do other actions in "stopped" time.After uniting Doria, I will ready my army for the liberation of Mamet, then Tsoshu. To accomplish this, I will assemble a team of expert craftsmen, headed by Brastat. Their goal is to revive the tech of the Old Throne using outsider knowledge and all the resources available to the Lord of Doria. First improving upon muskets and common arms, then dissecting old warmachina, then finding and repairing the old greater warmachina scattered around Doria, then modifying and possibly even making new ones.As ruler of the former Exarchate, I should also be able to recruit Baf with the promise of Erginter's body. That goes for many of the powerful companions marked by the outsider system or otherwise. Being the god-king of a continent gives you a lot of reach.In the liberation of Doria and Tsoshu, greater warmachina and our powerful champions will be our strongest weapons and shock troops, though our numbers will win the war.Hopefully, I will be ready to mount an invasion of Poulden before I'm much older than 30. Lukag's teachings from birth and untimeskipped languages already give me a head start in all this. Either way, I will research paths to immortality with Lukag, plus the whole mage cult thing.The final showdown with 0^0 will come only after I have broken the Ecumene entirely.>>96554877>wereplaguecured by Jdan>bitter sicknesscured by encounters and Jdan future knowledge>hybrid diseasecured by encounters, Jdan future knowledge, and Jdan>uruksI'm not a fucking jobber. I come out of the womb knowing Lukag's magic, with a fuckload of both caster and martial gifts.In the first place, Jdan's future knowledge allows me to resolve uruk encounters in the best way possible
>>96554906>Esurient walkand Autoantecedenceand Icon of Iconsand all mental giftsand caster giftsand untimeskipped magic trainingand Martial Instinctand Boiling Bloodand Second Windand 16 years of the best training/education that the king of the Old Throne can affordand advice from Jdan on how best to resolve the encounter
>>96554945>enough advantages to solo a platoonBut-but mighty uruck dick though! Trolls are invincible, you don't understand! Did you know that a troll could murder every other Outsider?
>>96554932>>96554945Jdan just backstabs you in the most obvious way possible when he sees what the hell you get up to on the first iteration.
>anons trying this hard to shitpost an anon's solo buildWhy though?
>>96554991YOU WILL EAT ZE BUGZ
Beating Uruk is not that hard. After all, they're just martials with no gifts.Beating murders is the real filter. Can your Outsider beat a giant multiheaded crow where each head casts spells at you in between mocking your build while the body evades your attacks?
How do I make a CYOA where people will have in-universe theological debates about the nature of free will multiple weeks after release?
>>96554932>This one guy will cure all these afflictions there were never cured because i headcanoned itAre powerfags just retarded? Might as well just blessing of [SRTR] your way into farting Charlie into submission when you're 12.
>>96554991A solo build has a smaller context to think of. It's easier to opine about it over, Free Will in Providence?
>>96554991I want him to face challenges.The more the better. His story asks to have drama in it.Hubris and backs and forths, teeth and nails, last drops of blood all around.
>>96555005Interesting characters, a detailed world, and optionally metashit. Most importantly, leaving questions the player has to answer on their own; asking them to think about something in particular for a while.>>96554866~Jobber-kun~
>>96555012
>>96554991Almost anyone taking all Uruk encounters + Maladies is clearly just some meaningless munchkin who just assumes he'll never fail ever.At the very least, this one didn't take Meandering Thought.
SRTR has never done one single thing wrong.
>Dobrava>clear any Encounter perfectlyCan a mathemagician with no other powers really defeat a Troll solo? I don't think so. I think the Troll murders her, fate is broken, and causality elevated. Challenge the Troll and die.
>>96554656Things That Shouldn't Be outright traps you in a breeding pen where they used to keep female slaves to birth Nightmares.
>>96554945You don't understand, anon. Ungifted peasants armed with farming equipment used to think trolls are unkillable. That means you can't kill a troll, ever, no matter how many combat gifts you spam, no matter what training your parents give, no matter how many mentors you untimeskip. Otherwise it's FREE POINTS (which cost a character slot)
>>96555006Wereplague is canonically curable if you have money, Jdan literally is a king.Bitter Plague has 2 potential solutions that can become easier if Jdan is willing to help, though there is no guarantees there.Hybrid disease is not that bad and, again, curable with a proper care.NTA, but his plan has merit. Shockingly, being adopted by a king comes with some perks.
>>96555034Who says she needs to beat it herself?She just needs to set up a circumstance where the troll is killed.
>>96555045>She just needs to set up a circumstance where the troll is killed.Trolls cannot be killed. To say otherwise is a contradiction. Dobrava would be removed from existence.
>>96555033Based and Epic-pilled. Prepare to receive your SRTR provided reward for this, participation is mandatory.
>>96555045Me, it's the' ideal manner'.
I'm going to pick uruk and reroll until I become a Troll. Then I will solo the Ecumene and Charlie and take my place in the heavens as the one true god.
>>96555041You have to understand, anon, seeing people take options that increase your total number of points available makes him angry.
>>96555041You have to consider that him having Wereplague x 2 means that, until you cure him, you're dealing with a Beast loaded up on all of his Gifts. Still, beyond Chance nonsense, relying this much on Jdan means you're practically his puppet on a lot of things. He knows what choices you're going to make in a vacuum world, he can absolutely setup one-sided negotiations that benefits the Old Throne and him over you, especially when you're his kid. He's the one hiding a whole military buildup with Dirk if that's the correct interpretation, he absolutely has the cunning to trick an Outsider who doesn't spec into intrigue.
Could you become an Empyrean Troll?Could you then create more empyrean Uruk since they are (you)?
Purposely infect yourself with WereplagueTurn into a spiderUse all of your eye gifts at the same time???0^0 dead
>>96555084Huh, didn't consider that the gifts remain, fair. Foreknowledge can solve even this though.Completely agree on the second point, his plans to become the dark overlord are fucked from the beginning. Or at least would be fulfilled in the way that makes the Throne ascendant again.Sadly, this is not why everyone dogpiled him. Theorising the ways to dig out from this situation is way more interesting than another retread of "yoy've picked drawbacks - you are dead, solvless fag".
>>96555115But Anon, isn't being harassed by Charlie an integral part of the Outer Reincarnation's /cyoag/ experience?
>>96555108>eye maxxed to the limit>can't turn them off>intelligence reduce to a beast level
>>96555084>>96555115>conquering Doria in the name of the Old Throne>reviving Old Throne tech>defeating the EcumeneThis is literally just shit that Jdan wants to do. Why would he oppose it?
>>96555108Amazingly, it could actually work. If more heads = more eyes is allowed, this is also fair game.Just need to find a way to guarantee the new form and then freeze the disease progression.
>>96555120>harassed by Charlie Help help I need an adult
>>96555125Have you considered that Jdan might be a shitty person, and that doing what he wants means you're a shitty person
>>96555144He isn't.>butShut up.
>>96555150Rhucuphrefags face a worthy opposition - Jdan puppets.
>>96555002I don't think I've seen anyone take the Murder encounter.
>>96555150Ah, he might not be a shitty person, but would you consider, that the Old Throne is shitty in and of itself? They're all about repainting genuine rebellions as emanations of the only rebellion that mattered, they're all about returning to Vtorusha's era while forgetting about Vtorusha, they're all Malkuth-level copers over Vtorusha jobbing, and even more shitty about it because they have to rely on the corpse of Vtorusha to do things, when Dirk Yesod knows about that and casually fucked them over to peek at the Elder Gods' script, accidentally realizing that the world was just [JNPL]'s plot to get more Yuri and becoming her second most diehard annoying simp in the process.
>>96554927does it ever state directly that it was unplanned? I only found descriptions that it delayed collective ascension or that it broke hope
Why do northerners and muddish fight over who gets to rule the Doria when they could be making melancholic and bitter babies together instead?
>>96555180while the northerners and muddish are fighting each other the southlanders take over
>>96555177I forgot, they have been doing this for nearly a millenium, and the times that I could think of where they're halfway relevant is the times they were papertiger'ing, first to Doria then to Mamet, and that one time a Yesod True Love'd one of them hard enough that it carried back into the past.
>>96555168At least Rhucuphre is nice.
>>96555084Just because Jdan knows me and who I was in the future doesn't mean that he can stop or control me. Especially not without that chair.He can try to trick or manipulate me, but with mental gifts I should be no slouch in that department. And I should be building a cult of personality around ME, not Jdan. The people and important figures should be loyal to me and the image I have created, not him, especially when it comes to the Empire of Light and Dark/Exarchate/Malkuth/DKMDV.If it comes down to it, the brute force option is always there. Worked for Keter.In any case, I don't think he has any reason to oppose me, and I gave him Shta. He will die before I do.
I'm pretty sure it is planned. They wanted to phase out Agelessness in favor of rapid reincarnations since they have faster soul xp gain. Everlasting is granted to those who are interesting enough or do enough to accelerate their plans. Charlie nuking Orthrung was basically a slam dunk for them. Now they just a suicidal drakonid empire and the Empyrean races to deal with and the remaining elves have had their soul xp gain forcibly raised due to their suffering so they are fine now.
>>96555108>>96555123Drakonid + Multioccular allows you to all eye gifts simultaneously.
>>96555030>he wants it to be easyFuck off JNPLfag. Don’t you have a farm to tend to?
>>96555215Can you actually chose how your dragon foem is gonna be?
>>96555223No, although we know some dragon forms have multiple sets of eyes, including pantorai
>>96555204>cult of personality around ME, not Jdan.Anon, you're literally writing your own downfall>ShtaHe literally already effectively died once to fulfill it. When the dreamed future is real enough that Inga Yesod's boytoy became Inga Yesod's present boytoy, Jdan ending his vision of the future to come back and give you all of your medications is enough.
>>96555232using the old throne doesn't kill the one using iteven if it did, Shta means that he must have done that to help me unlock my true potential. So he's on my side.
>>96555030well you can fail, but it won't really do much harm to yourself in the long run as you still need to be in a good enough shape to finish up all of your other encounters and your youth goals so you won't get crippled by these encounters you might just create a orc infestation but its more of a locals problem than a you problem and if your in well defended enough location the garrison will clean it up, so its pretty much free points
>>96555171Roast me, I am readyTumen GoddessYMRDDice Fudge - free, Extra Companion x1 -2D/-1A, Extra Mentor x3 -6A/-3DFemaleMother:Maiosara Yesod (Slovo - Zhivete) (Misalliance) +10A Father:Amalrich (Yer') (Misalliance) +5ALanguages: Everyman +4D, Salian +4D, Palatiner (Quitened) +1D. Tutored x2 -2DLocations: Malkuth, Pasmurnia (+Zemlya).Gifts:Wereplague +4A.Int Pack -14A, Icon of Icons -5A, All-Glimpse -5A, Kneeling Twilight -1A, God Hand x3 -3A, Ethereal Beauty -1A, Thoroughbreeding -1A,Autoantecendence -5A - allows the blessing to hold for a full day and use additional Meaning to either be spread out or boosted for one target.Mentors: Dirk(Eirina,Leimeie) -5D, Pukluxun (Dice Fudge) -4D, Thaumiel -5D.Companions: Kalliopa -3D, Brastat -2D, Inga Yesod -5D, Sigard -2D.Encounters:Troll +2A/+2DA Band Of Ogres +2D/+1ANothing Ever Happens - Dirk (Qoppa)Breaking and Entering - Pukluxun (Shta)Remember About Death - Thaumiel (Zelo - Zemlya)A Murder of Murders - Kalliopa (Myslete)Upward Spiral - Brastat (Ouk)To Dream Bigger and Higher - Sigard (Glagoli)Immortal Coils - Inga YesodRemember The Demon - ThaumielLetter: VediYouth:Leadership training, Theology, Natural Philosophy, Magical Training.Quest: In Nomine.People always start their cults somewhere in the boonies, but we have the most religious and king loving country in the world right here in Malkuth. You just need to be a Tumen with appropriate claim and the succession is assured.The plan is to be a better Dirk. Ally with Thaumiel to painlessly annex Dis, use all this faith for an actual power, build enough warmachinas to make the old throne tremble and throw every single monster in Porphyria/Dis in the Ecumene's direction.All the while I am spreading out Eirina's knowledge among our troops and teach Inga how to explain her thought process to everyone who isn't a genius. Kalliopa is here so I the Empire doesn't prevent all the shenanigans.
>>96555225Each part of eyes should get its own head.
>>96554417No serious person believes All Glimpse lets you see more than 100 meters away unless you’re Dirk Yesod.
>>96555232>Anon, you're literally writing your own downfallShh, let him think he's immune to it all because muh mental gifts. Could be worse, at least he's solo.
>>96555245>wereplague>urucksBad end: you are turned into mindbroken rape meat
>>96555204what do you mean without the chair? he already used the chair tons of times and he knows what your going to do
Anons just CAN'T resist the Uruk Encounters, can they?
>>96555205It's specifically JNPL who has a problem with agelessness, because it makes her steady-progress-through-new-experiences job harder.YMRD doesn't mind (she wants to mass-ascend everyone by cheating at dice, which would render JNPLs work irrelevant), and SRTR seems to actually like immortality (it lets her keep favorites like Ratha on the bench for future plotlines).It's also JNPL who lost her seat to Charlie. And she's the voice of the outsider system telling you "don't try to save the elves it's not worth it let them go extinct please"
>>96555278its free points
>>96555245Didn't have enough place in the first post, but Sigard is one of the more important companions. He is guaranteed to survive till my certain doom by his letter, and I have Vedi so he'll live a long time. He is also a great material for a head inquisitor to make sure Malkuth is locked down from 0^0 spies harder than North Korea. This way I have enough time to properly build up everything (Ouk'ed brastat = guaranteed Greater Warmachina), develop my cult and provide a lot of fighting power when other Outsiders start taking on Charlie.I don't have any cheats against her specifically, but Dragons and Vtorusha were taking on Elder Gods directly and I am using their method but improved through Shta on Pukluxun. With Icon of Icons and everything else I have a fighting chance, especially with the death letter being occupied.
>>96555252When did Jdan turn into Light Yagami? Why the fuck would he want to betray me in the first place? We're on the same side, and I'm the linchpin for a bloodless conquest of Doria. What the fuck would he gain from backstabbing me? And how would he prevent me from just killing him? He can't kill me thanks to my death letter, but Shta is not so protective.>>96555261The only futures he knows are ones where he sat on the throne the entire time.He can't use the chair anymore since he stood up, which changes the future as well. A little at first, a lot later on.
>>96555278Barsik shows that they’re no threat.
>>96555253It will be noticed in my first months of life and easily cured, Maiosara is still a royalty.
Jdan is my puppet, not the other way around.
>>96555294You will turn into a rat the first time and get eaten by a random cat
>>96555287>He can't use the chair anymore since he stood up, which changes the future as well.The overlord wannabe stays the same in all of them though, Jdan knows about his plans better than him.
>>96555245Damn, forgot to add an art.
>>96555253Anon please don't rape the poor uruks, they don't even have genitals, I know they aren't sentient so its not really even rape they would be more like sex dolls, but SRTR didn't intend them for sex, don't turn the mindless automatons into sex dolls anon
>uruk necromancer is in your worldhow do you avoid getting turned into rape meat?
>>96555287Jdan's not Rhucuphre, but I atleast believe that he's capable of basic people reading and amateur plotting, if not more, from what's been shown of him. When the build is basically "What if I became a True Jobber without any of the True part", do you really have the depth to not get tricked by him?
>>96555245>Ogres encounter not Orcs encounter so rest of the encoutners are not that fucked over by having uruks in them>Okay assignment of Characters to Encounters>Only one level of wereplague and no other maladies>Autoantecendence on the weaker side but still usefulYou'll make it.
>>96555252well a time looper is really fucking scary for manipulation as they can essentially try again and again until they find the right method at manipulating you to get what they want
>not bogging your Uruk so hard they become effeminate himbos and bimbos with soft plastic like flesh
If you are a necromancer and decide to pull an Inga then from your perspective you instantly get the Old Throne. It’s free real estate.
>>96555287>He can't use the chair anymore since he stood up, which changes the future as well. He still has Geminara sitting on it for him
>>96555177>accidentally realizing that the world was just [JNPL]'s plot to get more YuriWhere?
>>96555329It's still filtered by Geminara who seems too kind and naive to be complicit in mindfuckery.
>>96555302Vedi rules. Also, I am 95% sure that children of important people get examined by proper healers and mages on birth, especially when they are the only hope left for a proper succession.
>>96555180Bold of you to assume Northerners can't conquer while having babies with EVERYTHING. Look at their royal line, the only thing on Doria they haven't fucked yet is a Drakonid, and that's only for lack of opportunity. If you've got land to grab and something between your legs, the Northerners are coming for you.
>>96555308I know that he knows that and will act accordingly. And he knows that I know that he knows that I know and will act accordingly. But I know that he knows that I know that he knows that I know and will act accordingly. So it's a wash.>>96555325Why the fuck are you so insistent that Jdan would trick me? Why and how? What does he gain from it? What does he want me to do that I'm not already doing, and wouldn't be willing to do if he asked?
>>96555245Autoantecedence seems kinda weak.Pray that your wereplague doesn't hit you at the same time Uruks or murder show up, if you're not already treating it.That two headed crows encounter seems like the hardest one in the CYOA besides Shadow of God.But overall seems fine, just keep in mind Vedi means shit to Charlie since she can just mindrape you or lock you forever as easily as she can kill you.
>>96555331That unfortunately requires whoever's sitting on it to be retarded enough not to reset once they realize you're close to them.
>>96555302You choose your were-animal. I'm partial to werebeaver if I'm going for a fast cure, personally. Easily kept in by the bars of a crib, and if your parents have you sleeping in their bed instead, you're not that fast on land and have an easily-grabbed tail. And then even if you still escape, they're home-builders, so you can expect not to go very far.
>>96555357>That two headed crows encounter seems like the hardest one in the CYOA besides Shadow of God.It's Tankista subtly trying to fuck over Malkuth builds as part of his Old Throne bias.
>>96555245Misalliance can only be taken once.
>>96555327>Autoantecendence on the weaker side but still usefulIt is there as the only way to bless undead, which we have a lot of and need even more. Blessing whole armies of undead to make them immune to magical/mathemagical disruption while juiced on the Icon of Icons sounds like the most Malkuthian thing to me. Those guys are the most faithful blasphemers on the continent, I wanted to exemplify it.Kind of like this:https://youtu.be/uttlRqHpvNs
>>96555377>beaver>kept in by the bars of a crib...a wooden crib?
>>96555245I am pretty sure you cant take Misalliance twice.
>>96555357>But overall seems fine, just keep in mind Vedi means shit to Charlie since she can just mindrape you or lock you forever as easily as she can kill you.Vedi is easily abused by her if she knows (you) have it by making 11th publish a book or be turned into one or any other case where 12th gets to inherit some form of Mentor worthy knowledge that Outsider system can pick up. Look at Gewrgin.
>>96555382Malkuth and Tumen in general are so ass. Without Maiosara, no one would choose to be related to them.
>>96555357>Autoantecedence seems kinda weak.NTA but I was thinking of taking God Hand (x3) in a build and now I'm wondering how far you think it could go.Is permanent blessings acceptable?What about choosing the effect of the blessing, with some restrictions?
>>96555397I believe Tankista said that giving out permanent blessings and choosing your effect is fine for an autoantecedence ability. Though you can't give out too many permanently blessings or else you get hit with meaning devaluation
>>96555388You can't
>>96555393Inga Yesod is awesome though.
>y-your parents and companions will betray you!GODku actively chooses to be betrayedcan't be betrayed if you already double crossed yourself from the start
>>96555403Ok. Well my idea was the ability to give out any blessing that I had myself received at some point, or that my hands had touched. Probably restricting permanent blessings to once per day.
>>96555006If you're choosing how your ×3 ability works youre already in SRTR territory.
>>96555385>>96555388>lurk for a week while slowly filling up the build>still fucked upMan, this CYOA is hard. At least I can do a proper write up for the next version.>>96555393Inga and uncle Dirk are the best, stop this baseless slander!
Did Tankista ever mentioned nerfing anything besides Keter/Thaumiel mom and Maiosara Yesod (along with other high value parents) Misalliance?.
>>96555428He said he’s gonna nerf adoption on reddit
>>96555428No more AP from languages and also Adoption.
>>96555397NTA but you can come up with something fun like having Blessings of God Hand (x3) work like Strokrad's Oaths but work around devotion, self-impose code of honor and Meaning. Add Devout Signature and you can have solid theme of being Saint of Elder Gods further giving you narrative edge.
>>96555393Herleva is tumen too and she literally allows you to ignore your death letter without becoming a full undead, while also teaching advanced necromancy.
>>96555434Don't languages give DP?
>tfw I am going lose 25+AP from the nerfs
>>96555434The language balance is pretty bad now and could use another look overall, in my opinion.
>>96555245>Zemlya'ing Thaumiel or Keter with Inga chosen.That's neat.>>96555284Besides picking up enough maladies to make up for having only one misalliance, I would rate you having a 50:50 on jobbing or murdering the murder with numerology and nightmarespawns, and a worrying 75:25 of Kalliopa getting mindfucked again and going Myslete or surviving? Kalliopa really needs to get access to Sigard before things go bad. Brastat being here is also a neat choice to solidify Malkuth's recent tech advancements and go even further into the zombies-with-guns necromancy.
>>96555428More points but Adoption and Misalliance refunds get nerfed, one more page of gifts and the majority of mother and father picks gets rebalanced with new gifts in mind, most of Encounters might get locked behind Youth choices and not location. He might also do something with languages and their bonuses.
>>96555428>>96555431We're also getting +5 more points from both pools and +1 companion and mentor slots. V3 babies are going to be so spoiled.
>>96555407>>96555446>>96555427He said related to them, not friends with them, so he's referring to parents. He's wrong though because Unnr exists and is a good mage mom for royalty builds. The only field in which Tumen are total ass is the Father section.
>he doesn’t know how to defend himself against time travelersIt’s easy. Tie your choices to random chance, and slight variations due to the butterfly effect will ensure that you are never predictable.Wanna kill a guy? Flip a coin.Deciding what to eat for dinner? Roll a die.
>>96555470You mean the Unnr Yesod not even one anon chose as a mother?
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>>96555437Well that's pretty close to what I was already thinking (>>96555411).I would use this along with Divine Signature to travel the world earning as many blessings as I can, then giving them out to companions and worthy heroes.[JNPL] mother and raised in the temple at Chervonolin, of course.
Has anyone come up with a better speedrun strat than >0^0 KILL SPEEDRUN ANY%?
>>96555455
>>96555482I swear some people chose her in a build, but you can't blame her for being grand niece getting picked instead for Misallignment bait.
>>96555470>Amalrich being a Top 5 Father>Leif and Bernhard being incredibly solid FathersYeah, going to disagree.
>>96555495Everyone who will actually kill 0^0 has.
>>96555463>mother and father picks gets rebalanced with new gifts in mindI can't wait for him to try to 'balance' my parents by making them 'better' but their new gifts steal slots I was using and fuck over my build.
>>96555498Any reason to remove only AP and not DP though? They seem about as useful as each other l.
>>96555434>No more AP from languagesWell that would fucking suck, nobody is abusing Fay/Spriggan that hard, why should they get fucked over because of Duergar + Uruk strats?
What is the point in dogpiling other people’s buildsI just don’t get it
>>96555463>most of Encounters might get locked behind Youth choices and not locationI'm only okay with this if Jdan lets me evade the lock still.
>>96555513you're right anon, we should be dogpiling your build instead, sorry for leaving you out.
>>96555462Malkuth really is the best place to play Evangelion, isn't it? Blessed nightmare-zombie-warmachinas are just what the setting needs.Come to think of it, blue grease is basically dead dragons and they already use it for flying cities. The Underground is full of it. Ecumene fleet could face some interesting competition.
>>96555507>but their new gifts steal slots I was using and fuck over my build.So many great parents get passed over because of this
>>96555513
>>96555513"This world is fiction. I am the only thing that is real within my sight. The rest are all disgusting lies. If this is so, then it doesn't matter what I do to others.No matter how depraved or horrible my actions could be, I consider it all to be meaningless. In light of that, it is my obligation to drag this world through the mud and ruin the tale, whatever it might be.There is only I, and even the narrative of fate is merely an illusion. It is up to me to prove to the storytellers that their works are worthless, to punish them for daring to make something like this.And so, I shall inflict as much dread and suffering as I possibly an. I know they cannot avert their eyes. I shall tear out the heart of what they consider to be their marvel, for what they depict is beautiful cannot possibly be anything but abominable."—11th Outsider
>>96555527Yeah just imagine he's trying to buff a parent and puts like the fucking rust hand in their arm slot and now you can't take magician's hand, or their leg slots get filled with Grey Wandering.
>>96555482Personally, it's really hard to justify being her kid because you're taking the one country which doesn't have a brewing succession crisis or civil war and installing one. I want to be solving problems, not creating new ones.
>>96555513Even thinking of taking those options is reason enough for why your Ilk deserve the treatment I've given you.
>>96555502>Low gain parents you just like the personality of
>>96555546They have one. Dirk can croak at any moment and his only heir is an anxious teenage foreigner. Things are so bad they are pressuring 54 years old woman to have one more child.
>>96555550B-Bu-But the MEANING Anon! Being a knight, being a bum knight, and having access to Darina at an early age! The potential!
>>96555535This is such a strange attitude. When you consume a work of fiction, do you think "this is disgusting lies! This adventurous blue speedy hedgehog DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST"
How can I start in Charlie's lands? Is there any way? They Ecumene says it cant be chosen but also that it requires 0^0, which I don't get
>>96555573Your blessing of Surtr?
>>96555540>Take Rusty Hand>Now I can never use metal tools to eat or cookThis shitty gift should give you points for taking it
>>96555507>>96555527>>96555540The easy way out would be to have Misalliance cost 1 AP and refund the specific gift it is used on, while make it being able to be bought multiple times with each next purchase increasing the cost further by 1 AP.
>>96555561Unironically based for someone specked into dreams. Spending whole childhood exploring the nightmare dungeon with her can be huge. Especially because it gives you a lot of time to try solving it. Imagine fully awake Darina as an ally.
>>96555585But then I cant be in the tide.
>>96555513>what's the point of criticism?
>>96555594Wow so you want to nerf already nefed parents even harder?>Oh I'm sorry I gave you the LITERALLY USELESS Grey Wandering in your leg slot you wanted Kneeling Twilight in!>Oh I know, I nerfed the hell out of all ways to get AP so your AP budget is extremely starved now, but how about I make Misalliance COST 1 AP and not give you anything back, that totally makes up for the 'buff' I gave your parent!Like you're just fucking up people with bad parents even harder and encouraging everyone to ONLY use the few most optimal ones.
>>96555535He hates TRVE DRAGON builds the most though
>>96555614>COST 1 AP and not give you anything backI'm pretty sure the suggestion was to cost 1 AP and give the value of the gift back, so you just get one less than it would have costed.
>>96555567Suddenly coming to a conclusion that your beloved girlfriend and family don't exist and are just sockpuppets for the gods make this attitude very understandable in-universe.
>>96555560There's no one challenging Maiosara's claim, and Unnr's kid wouldn't even be a real Yesod. You're taking a bad situation and making it worse by muddying the waters.I suppose you could theoretically strengthen the throne by being a Tumen child of Unnr and marrying Maiosara, so that the royal family at least has a Tumen noble and a Yesod, even if they aren't the same person. That's basically a full Fundamentum build, though, and if I'm going Fundamentum I just find other countries more interesting.
>>96555587Just dual-wield your spoon?
I would honestly just play v2 and add in what v3 added if the AP nerfs went too far, Outer Tide be damned.
>>96555587>He doesn't dual wield his spoon while eating cerealskill issue
>>96555614You're gonna get 5 and DP and AP, stop crying becuse your parents are point dispensers. Good enough for my build.
>>96555645>nothing was definitively said that anything would really get nerfed other than the Keter trick, but Anon is already planning on being disappointed
>>96555612>criticism
>>96555614This >>96555629And also adding specific gifts which function like All-Glimpse could also be another solution. Have some type of 5 AP single purchase Arm and Leg Gift which overrides other Leg and Arm Gifts like All-Glimpse does with Eye Gifts.
>>96555645Misalliance and Adoption were obviously too strong, most people just wanted parents for points and justified it by saying "noooo I actually chose them because le lore or le mentoring", it's fucking horrible to see the same shit over and over again.
>>96555670Yeah, nerfs are always disappointing in non competitive things.
Rolled 30, 35, 26, 5, 14, 11, 39, 2 = 162 (8d40)>>96547410Rolling for>patron god (first digit; 0 = charlie)>mother>father>mentor 1>mentor 2>companion 1>companion 2>companion 3
I was trying to verify something and found this>Also, though this probably falls under "ancient mystery" stuff, are there any public records/witnesses of what Xian/Erginter (personally betting on Erginter) challenging the God-Script entailed? Or did viewers simply watch the entity commit suicide?>They saw Erginter become an Empyrean, create a hole in the world and half step through it, but then she started to struggle with herself and then killed herself. Aatginter was an Empyrean when she died. Not sure if that's important for anything.
>>96555688My build is shit so yours has to be too
>>96555691>The true chosen on YMRD
>>96555662My parents weren't point dispensers, they were already mechanically bad, that's why I'm worried about them getting 'buffed' in a way that makes them worse by eating up open slots.
>>96555693It means Inga can make a very cool zombie.
>>96555686Making Gifts harder to get just makes anons minmax parent combos harder though. Nobody take Stoyan because they like him.
Using baf on aatginter doesn’t destroy the corpse btw
>>96555708Yes, especially when a whole page of new gifts are getting added.I’d just like to see some of the weaker parents get new gifts or have some of their shitty gifts swapped out.
>>96555635Okay but like. They're not? Not any more than you are, anyways. Gods steer the world through fate and chance, not mind control.True Dragon Solipsism was something they cultivated in themselves, presumably for the power that it gave.
>>96555704I honestly doubt he'll entirely remove Misalliance entirely, so you can just take it and free those slots. The other anons suggestion of making it cost -1 AP and more with each purchase and only affect one gift seems solid.
>>96555691>YMRD>M*da>cursed knigga>Kilyn>Xet>Sigard>Nilmatrix>CilirenUtter schizo shit. I'm looking forward to the build Anon.
>>965557091) Baf the corpse to copy it.2) Raise the rest with Inga.3) Restore another one through Dei with her gacha.How much Xians can we get?
>>96555726Isn't #39 Inga Yesod and not Nilmatrix?
>>96555726>kniggaWOAH, relax buddy. That’s a word for the Dark Elves.
>>96555708That's fine as long as one parent isn't clearly giving much more points compared to other ones. The most blatant exploit was Keter trick being so overused she might as well have an Outsider Orphanage, but that'll be gone.
>>96555733Right, sorry. That's slightly less insane I guess.
>>96555730Revive the Xian in Aat's body that was turned into Eternal Curse.
>>96555735Dei was still more popular than Keter btw.
>>96555730Per Tankista, there are 3 ways that Dei can rez Xian. One is through Xian’s corpse, two is through Aatginter’s, and three is through the Eternal Curse.So you could have Baf, Aatginter Zombie, Xian Zombie, and Aat
>>96555721Yes, and as a side effect they started to percieve themselves as real and independent while treating everyone else as theater props. Judging by the quote, they were quite angry about that fact.
>>96555735Okay, but Keter should have an Outsider Orphanage
>>96555479YMRD's strongest soldier.I unironically plan to utilise something like this against Charlie. She can't pull off "your every move was calculated" if my moves are unironically random.
>>96555748Daemonhost + inheriting gifts is a pretty sweet deal. We have anons willingly forgoing being cared for by their parents to get it through Aat too.
>>96555761Charlie: Path to Victory.11th: Drunken Bumble To Success
>>96555724The problem with Misalliance is that if your parent has one mandatory gift like Memory Retention and a bunch of awful slot-eating shit, you can't use Misalliance because doing so means you can't repurchase Memory Retention, you've basically fucked yourself over forever.
>wahh wahh true jobbers! I don't care that my waifu is a SRTR sockpuppet!!Bluepilled cuck mindset. You would gladly live in the matrix.TRVE DRAGONS see it for what it really is.
>>96555777>waifu is a SRTR sockpuppetHot.
>>96555751Anon's point is that their world view is objectively false, since everyone has a soul which is a real outside of reality god seed. Their lives are roles like in a play sure, but they are real people behind it.
>>96555775That's fine, it's a choice between not getting one or other gift, and the choice is yours. You're not always gonna get a perfect build 100% as you wanted, but limitations and choices are an important part of this kind of game, that's why one thing being always better than the other one is bad.
>>96555777godly digits of TRVE DRAGON TRVKE NVKE...
>>96555775mfw someone I'm considering has both caster intuition and dogshit like grey wanderingVarvara...
>>96555768I'm not sure if Aat is a meta parent or if his point total is shit. But he let's you LARP as Jesus/Antichrist/Anakim, that's pretty rad.
>>96555801>That's fine>It's fine for a 'buff' to make your parent completely shitAre you even paying attention to the context of this conversation? Nobody is talking about high-value Misalliance bait parents, it's about bad parents getting a 'buff' that actually functions like a nerf so nobody will pick them.>Akshually not being able to be a mage is a heckin' cool limitation and...No. It means people will just optimize even more viciously and the pool of chosen parents will narrow even further. Nobody is going to tolerate a build that is only half-functional because their slots are literally wasted.>>96555804I felt this way about Gramrouth.
>>96555050She digs a pit trap filled with flamable liquid and tricks the troll into tripping on it then sets it on fire and it dies. Fight smarter not harder cuck boy.
>>96555819>it's about bad parents getting a 'buff' that actually functions like a nerf so nobody will pick them.No, it's about you inventing a problem inside of your head and pre-emptively complaining about it.Explain what's so bad about the idea of making Misalliance refund only one specific gift of your choice instead of all of them.
>>96555819You can still be a mage if you have some hand gift other than Mages Hand anon. The slot gifts are not all that necessary for anything other than a specific gimmick, which in that case, you can plan around it.
>>96555811>if his point total is shitHe gives daemonhost plus 6 ancestry points worth of mental gifts while costing 0 points; the only negative is needing a dark elf mom, and they're pretty good point-wise too.
>>96555811Aat is one of the best parents.3 universally good gifts and a unique one. Tons of lore and plot potential. Only thing is that it pigeonholes you hard into one of two mothers. One has Warmachia Mounting and the other is Misalliance bait.
>He picked Adoption>He picked Misalliance>He picked Uruk Encounters>He picked AP giving languages>He picked all MaladiesDirty CHEATERS, all of you.
>>96555811nta but I find Aat way too limiting with mother options present for him>which one of those two miserable dark elves you want to fuck over even more?it is part of the theme but having more choices with option to fuck over an actually bad or deserving dark elf with Nash would really increase the appeal in a lot
>>96555703I really should've chosen YMRD as patron to begin with, but obviously she'd roll as one regardless.>>96555726This may take a while.>>96555691>Patron: 30YMRD as patron god>Mother: 35Mada, an Exarchate White priestess who tries to reconcile Charlie with gods. -2 AP>Father: 26Dryndeth from Agartha, a dark elf dark knight with cursed equipment. +1 AP>Mentor 1: 5Kilyn of the Orthrung, an elf God-scripter who engineered the pun that Keter used to wound Charlie. -1 DP>Mentor 2: 14Xet, an aggressive free warrior maijin who does random things. -3 DP>Companion 1: 11Sigard, a tumen JNPL priest who does inquisiting and fiery healing. -2 DP>Companion 2: 39Inga, the late queen of Dual Nightmare Monarchy. -5 DP>Companion 3: 2Ciliren, elf princess who killed Charlie's pet dragon and uses elven law magic. -3 DP
>>96555848>No, it's about you inventing a problem inside of your headHe literally said he's going to rebalance parents based on new gifts. So no, this isn't a problem I invented, it's an upcoming problem.>Explain what's so bad...Well, first of all, the anon who suggested it is not Tankista, and Tankista made no indication he's going to pick up that idea. So it's a pure hypothetical that's never going to happen and thus does not matter. That's why I didn't bother acknowledging it, it's not an actual possibility.>>96555850>You can still be a mage ifWe were talking about Memory Retention. As someone with bad memory I can tell you that no, it's fucking hell for anything academic. Also, like I said, nobody wants a half-functional build. They want to be good at what they do. So slot blocking means the parent is a non-option.
>>96555868They are both Misalliance bait.Having a miserable cheery wanderer or a miserable paranoid assassin giving birth via immaculate conception to a mysterious Majin Demon Lord child is pretty kino though.
>>96555887>He picked all MaladiesYou haven't earned those Maladies.>He picked Uruk EncountersThose uruks don't deserve to suffer your presence.
>>96555892>We were talking about Memory Retention. Memory Retention does not block any other gifts, only the slot ones do. You should be able to perfectly accept having one suboptimal eye/leg/arm gift to have Memory Retention, unless you're doing an gimmick that requires the slots, simple as.
>>96555852But Deamonhost means you can't take Icon of Icons, which according to anons, instantly makes your build 4x worse than any one who has it.
And I never take it slow, oh no>>96555932>>96555932>>96555932
Has anyone picked Barbos yet? I don't remember anyone picking him despite him having good gifts.
>>96555906>You haven't earned those Maladies.>I don't deserve to sufferI didn't know Charlie cared.
I've found a way to fix Tumen Goddess build by changing just one thing, but it is slightly dubious. I just need to pair her mother with Leif instead of Amalrich, he is also Tumen. Only Leif is 33 and Amalrich is 19. I am not sure it would be that great for Maiosara, even if he sounds nice.Just imagine confessing to your mother: "I paired you up with this old guy instead of a literal fairy tale knight because I wanted slightly better memory".
>>96555331It's pretty easy. Untimeskip Rhucuphre and learn mind magic. GG.
>>96555934It's a lot more than 4x
>>96555341How is it mindfuckery to convince you of something.
>>96555916Holy shit are you intentionally ignoring other posts in this comment chain? The idea was a parent with a slot blocker but also Memory Retention, so you can't just use Misalliance to boot his shit traits.>You should be able to accept having a bad build that sucks at its themeWhy? You gain absolutely nothing by sucking ass. As was repeatedly pointed out to you, players will just not pick those parents, they don't have to choose them, they gain nothing by doing so. They'll take the ones that don't shit up their slots.
>>96555979Leif's still a hottie, he's one of those two-faced bad boy boyband member archetype. Not that bad, and less boring than Mr. Knight.
>>96555393Maiosara is not Tumen, she is a Southlander.
>>96555943He's okay but I just don't want to be a Beastman.
>>96556095She is Malkuthian though.
>>96556049I'll be honest I just assume that it adds 0.1 per friend and 0.001 per believer, otherwise given how esurient walk seems to scale you could walk in take the anti-texts and walk out before charlotte even realises your present with just the companions.
>>96556100She's from Protectorate of Beyond.She's a Beyonder.
>>96556064Anything which comes from outside yourself and can change decision that you make is the exact same thing as mind control in /cyoag/
>>96556108>take the anti-textsThe McGuffin texts that do what?
>>96556109I see someone's hyped for Tankista's next cyoa
>>96556118Yphont the mind controller
>>96556187It is fine if it is Yphont
>>96556187that's just true tho
>>96556187Who wouldn't want to be mind controlled by Yphont?
>>96556227Well, there was this one elf...
>>96556236Ah yes. That one time Yphont was shocked to find out other people also have opinions.
>>96556257>OpinionsNot even that, she was shocked someone was a completely soulless politician who only cared about finding the greatest personal advantage and profit and didn't care about the future or the world.
>>96556276>no lady, my people shouldn't become slaves to your hordes of dark elves monstersWhat a horrible politician BITCH
>>96556276Political representatives are supposed to represent their polity, not the world
>>96556276>Ayawin cautiously held firm against their infringement on their sovereignty, awaiting more reasonable offers in future rounds of negotiation. Her distrust proved to be correct as the Eternal Empire fell in full force.Ah yes, greed.
>>96555889 (me)I keep looking at it, and I'm not really feeling it. It drags in too many directions. I was hoping for something for which a narrativistic unity can be established but I'm not seeing that here
>>96556276I don't get how someone can blame Ayawin instead of Yphonts' companions. Literally betrayed her ideals to attack the League unprovoked.
>>96556327You are YMRD's faithful, your father is watched over by SRTR and your companion is a JNPL fanatic.Your mother on the other hand wants to bring 0^0 into the pantheon while stopping her worst tendencies.I guess you could go full theologian and try to create a 4 god pantheon by redeeming Charlie and reviving JNPL at the same time. Don't ask me how to do that though.
>>96556371The answer is Yuri. They shall be the domestic abuse yuri god couple. [JNPL] is just Tsundere for charlie which is why [SRTR] and [YRMD] like her so much as alluded to in Omega's description.
>>96556314>Awaiting more reasonable offersYes, she wanted profit.
>>96556476>A: Be my slave.>B: No.>A: Why are you so greedy?
>>96556511>Slave*join me and let's work together to save the Underground.
>>96556396It's time to kill yourself
>>96556546
>>96556557Case in point.
>>96556276Hello Tenyota
>>96551756>Laika: 1Laike was the most popular Mother last time if memory serves. And since everyone was together in one tide, it meant Laika had made babies with all those fathers. Laika, you skank. But now Laika is old and nobody picks her anymore :(
Rake was found dead of Teto overdose, sorry anons
>>96551756>Only 1 person took ???I wish I could afford her
>>96555596Darina is just another weak muddish jobber. You could get all the mud you want with a shovel and a bucket of water.
>>96556751She's a terrible mom.
>>96556783It's not the appearance that counts, it's what is inside that counts (the Gifts)
>>96556762Rake once called my cyoa bad >:|
>>96556796Which one?
>>96556803https://old.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/1gbn5sq/youre_a_dragon_cyoa_from_tg/ltp4s7o/And thus bloody vengeance was sworn. I don't disagree, but it's the principle of the thing
>>96555596There's no reason to believe that beating the dungeon stops it from spewing nightmare. Normal dungeons don't disappear when people clear them.Aat/Xian also spent centuries trying to bring his sister back without succeeding, so that shouldn't be something you can just do in childhood. Though destroying the dungeon for good is probably easier than saving Bal
>>96551756Given how much she's talked about, I'm surprised only one person actually chose Apantoxia.Y'all know that it's not necessarily rape, right? Fate will tend towards the path of least resistance, so that is a way it could go down, but you're allowed to just have a drunken fling with the evil queen too?
>>96556751Laila's whole deal is giving three mental gifts for cheap, almost everyone who picked her the last time is now picking misalliance Maiosara for better results.I told you minmaxers would never change.
>>96554018>>96554023Originally I would've said no, because I don't want too many people to NUDGE themselves to Empyrean on table 2. I'd rather that be a very rare outcome.But I didn't notice at the time that you'd have very little nudging to be done in most tables.But a better rule to satisfy that would be:>You are allowed to NUDGE the same table multiple times. But in table 3 you cannot NUDGE at all.
>>96556955>, because I don't want too many people to NUDGE themselves to Empyrean on table 2Literally a non-problem, they'd first have to roll a 97 or better just for that to be an option, and it means they can't nudge anything else.
>>96556948...at 13-14?
>>96556982*a 20-40+ year old man reincarnated into a new body aged 14 and who actively chose to bang the dragon lady in his build
>>96556948It's very fun for a solo build and if the world were less dangerous then I surely would, but I have things to doShe is still the funniest companion to give gunter though
>Sudden desire to get Gunter and Dobrava>Guaranteed to become a hermit if I do
>>96556952I'm still surprised by how centralized around point bags the minmaxxers have gotten desu.Like Aes is an extra companion for 1AP, and her gifts aren't bad. Ragratelyn is the only character who teaches alchemy in the CYOA (which looks like it's a pretty strong skill to have). Vesryn was always solid mechanically (most point-efficient Eldar parent, and his gifts are solid) and his connection to the new Awaken Vtorusha plotline makes him more attractive as an option than last time, yet nobody's taking him.
>>96557103>Like Aes is an extra companion for 1AP, and her gifts aren't badAdventuring with your mom is a hard sell for most anons.
>>96557103Most of the Majin builds want Daemonhost, and she's a terrible match with Fot if you don't want to be poor/the breadwinner of your family.
>>96557103Vesryn is a martial parent, and spellcasting is more fun than just beating shit with a metal stick. Aes isn't mechanically terrible but she has a lot of competition for the role of "cheap caster parent" and she doesn't really hook into any interesting plotlines or sources of power otherwise. Ragratelyn is bad or gifts, has an annoying personality as a parent, and what alchemy does is unknown so people aren't incentivized to go for it.
>>96557094I'm pretty sure there's still room for a gunterbrava on Yest', if you're willing to build for a world.
>>96557131>>96557103I feel like choosing to be a Majin without Daemonhost is basically volunteering to be a sub-human and also you need to worry about Ota tanging/killing you.
>>96557153>spellcasting is more fun than just beating shit with a metal stickCool fighting will always be better than saying magic words to make stuff happen, casting at most complements the forme. Since there's not a hard scale on magic people just like to pretend they will be arch mages who move continents by the time they are twelve.
>>96557153>Vesryn martialPanarmament x2 isn't just martial, though it'll copy staves just as easily as swords or guns. The two big prizes with it are the Savmak sword and Tamura's scythe, and the latter is a pure caster weapon.
>>96557176>Majin without DaemonhostYeah it's only for joke tier builds
>>96557176>Majin without DaemonhostSo a race like all the others?They are just people who have an engraved spell in their bodies. And you don't even have the excuse of being spawned, you were born like all the everyone else.This line of thinking is how you get awful demon lords like Dei.
>>96557281They fell for the "demonhost or icon of icons is mandatory" meme.
>>96557230Whatever you say anon, but the question was WHY people didn't pick him. Even if you disagree with their taste, that is the WHY behind him being unchosen.>>965572431. No Caster is going to beat whit with a weapon. That's a spellblade at best, which in the CYOA isn't well supported. Cursed weapons are the main thing for that, but they fuck you over while you use them, so they're not popular.2. There's no indication staves are special or enhance your spellcasting at all in this CYOA. There's no setup for "I copy my staff of maximized extended fireball and spam it" to incentivize staves.3. The Savmak sword will possess and effectively kill you without All-Glimpse.4. Tamura's Scythe is Tamura's, and there's no indication copying the weapon gives you her summons.If you want to play with the necromancer scythe thing you're supposed to take Murzik as a father and kill him off in your childhood. Most people don't do that because most people aren't actually evil. He won't hand it to you unless he's dead. Also he has Touch of Embedded Rust which cripples him and makes him dogshit as a mage father so people don't want to go with him. Also has terrible languages.
>>96557281Dei is objectively correct, Majin are not people.
>>96557294>"All the casters pictured having staves are doing it for aesthetics"If you just want to arbitrarily nerf gifts into not working as described, you might as well be that gunfag insisting that full casters can't kill a troll
>>96557298>>96557281She's a nice person at the core. This is just her coping mechanism.
>>96557313Did you know that non-casters also use staves, because they make traveling/going on hikes a lot easier? Also the number of people in the CYOA who just have a staff is pretty fucking low, like Mitrofan has one as a mark of office, and Taexx has one to hold his grease bags, there's no indication those are for spells and not a practical purpose.
>>96557294>Touch of Embedded Rust which cripples him and makes him dogshit as a mage fatherYou know it doesn't rust what you are touching right? It makes what you are touching rust what it touches.I feel people have a very limited understanding of how anything outside the most common picks work so they justify not using them.
>>96557332Stifling of Arms says staves and books are used to perform magic.
>>96557366It cripples you because it prevents you from taking Magician's Hand x2 (the hand choices that benefit every mage build) or, more thematically, Deathless Grasp x2, which is a pretty big drawback for a necromancer's dad when he stops you from being good at necromancy because he's shitting up your arm.
>>96557370The books you write your spells in, but where is there any indication in the CYOA that staves can store/cast spells? You can't just invent effects like that.
>>96557366It's because it uses an arm slot. It's not because its effect is worse than nothing, it's because it blocks you from something better.>>96557370True, which considering Caster Intuition might mean they substitute for or add to part of what Spiritual Feel does.
>>96557383>necromancer's dadHe's literally anti necromancer. That's the whole reason why I picked him.
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>>96557390I gave you an example of the CYOA plainly stating that staves are used for magic and you say that I'm making things up. Ok.
>>96557429Meanwhile, Aes just uses natural talent
>>96557419Anon, do you not know how the Daemonhunt works? Look at Tamura, the ones in charge of anti-necromancy operation turn into a kind necromancer to facilitate their work. His only value as a parent is that he has the scythe that lets you enslave undead spirits to your will, that's all he does.>>96557429Half of those are held by priests, who hold staves as a mark of office. So where's the text you can quote that says staves facilitate or enhance spellcasting? Go and find it.>>96557442HOW are they used for magic? If holding a staff just helps you focus, then Panarmament x2 is useless for it since cloning staves doesn't do anything for you beyond just holding the one you have normally.
How mandatory are meta gifts like Icon of Icons, Daemonhost or All Glimpse anyway? Are there any builds that beat 0^0 without them?
>>96557459They are all trap gifts.
>>96557459>Are there any builds that beatHave you even looked at the CYOA? It doesn't fucking have an ending section or resolution mechanics you fucking retard.
>>96557464How so?
>>96557454>TamuraI wish she weren't human. It's either shell out for By Design or accept that she'll be old as hell once you get out of the tutorial.
>>96557468Do you really need an ending section or resolution mechanics to intuit whether a build will beat 0^0 or job to 0^0?
>>96557468That's because OR is not a stand-alone work, it's meant to be played together with Divine Trials epilogue. You have to reference Divine Trials itself for the epilogue, the one where you lose.
>>96557476I feel like Tankista sometimes forgot that ages are listed for the time of your birth, so you end up in this situation where over half of the Companions are going to be ancient by the time you're an adult. Sure every hero's party has at least one geezer in it, but ALL of your companions being geezers doesn't fit, thematically. Anyone over about 10 when you're born is going to stick out like a sore thumb in your party. I'll give a pass for Jarnigit since dwarves are only adults at 50 and she'll only be 58 at your adulthood.
>>96557459Do whatever the fuck you want anon. Everyone who says that build doesn't work without X is a retard who is extremely insecure about his own choices.Yes, those gifts are obviously very strong, but they are not the end all of character creation. If you want them use them and if you don't then just pick something else. Are people lately so scared of their build being called weak?
>>96557518I'm 100% he's trying to bait, either because he wants them nerfed or because he wants to manifest a power-fag argument.
>>96557518>XIcon of Icons. You can say it.
>>96557518>Everyone who says that build doesn't work without X is a retardDepends on whether the build makes sense or not.
>>96557454>Half are held by priestsTwo. Two out of thirteen. And both of those priests are also parents who teach you magic, so they know enough magic to do that.And I'll remind you, you're the one who said there aren't many staves in the CYOA. You're already backtracking.
>>96557554>>96557454>So where's the text you can quote that says staves facilitate or enhance spellcasting? Go and find it.
>>96557524Just a few posts ago someone was saying that being a Majin without Daemonhost is crippling yourself and a couple of days sgo it was about how All-Glimpse makes every other choice redundant.I don't understand how they can enjoy these pointless powerfagging discussions.
>>96557511>I'll give a pass for Jarnigit since dwarves are only adults at 50 and she'll only be 58 at your adulthood.I give a pass for anyone with lifespan gifts that'll let them stay active at that age, it's the humans that become questionable picks with that age difference.
>>96557575Be a Majin with Daemonhost or a caster with All-Glimpse. Now you can laugh at all the builds not following your exact gameplay.
>>96557575The point is to bait and you fell for it, little fish.
>>96557575>someone was saying that being a Majin without Daemonhost is crippling yourself and a couple of days sgo it was about how All-Glimpse makes every other choice redundant.They're shitposting, ignore them and move on
>>96557571>>96557442.Move the goalpost further if you want, it just means you know you lost.
>>96557597The goalpost? The goal is about how Panarmament helps for casters. You people forget the context of a conversation so quickly just to try and wrack up wins over minutiae. That's why it's important to establish how the staff helps a caster, because depending on that answer, Panarmament being used on a staff might or might not be useless. Do you understand?
>>96557606The goalpost already went through a pilgrimage.
>>96557606You're a fucking moron.
>>96557615>>96557243
>>96557606>wrack up wins over minutiaeAbsolutely pathetic hypocrisy. Both of you are arguing over something without an answer, and you're still managing to be wrong.
>>96557606I didn't follow the discussion, but if the staff is a conduit for magic, wouldn't using magic to copy the staff be counterproductive? Even if it works, you're using magic (to make the staff) to use more magic (shaped magic thanks to the staff). Picking a normal implement is better in my opinion.
>>96557631Some staffs may have additional effects, and Panarmament as a Gift presumably isn't as strenuous to use as spells.
>>96557639>Some staffs may have additional effectsDo they?
>>96557641Depends on how dwarven runes work. There's unfortunately little information about magic items.
>>96557649Since most of the staff users are from Doria (before the Mamet flyships travel), I can assume they wouldn't have those runes anyway.
>>96557649That's the point. Anon cannot justify Panarmament being good for casters without that information, so the answer that people don't pick Vesyrn because he's a martial-only dad is valid.
>>96557641We have an example of one enchanted item producing magical effect in Tamura's scythe. It allows you to use the power of demonic undead that you've beaten and sealed away. Kapitwlina's thrice-blessed armor, Alisa's non-electric electric guitar, Puk's physics-defying machine gun, Imtrod's flying broom, dwarven spell-scrolls, the entire concept of warmachina, the savmak sword, and grim outlook cursed items give others examples of what sorts of items exist in the setting. We also know that enchanted items are rare and valuable enough to be worth permakilling Geniuses over regularly.It's open-ended like the rest of OR magic is. It's bizzare that anon is fine with open-ended spellcasting when it comes to being a spellcaster but is constantly raising his standards for evidence when it comes to an argument that he's lost.
>>96557769This is about casters. How are any of those going to help your casting?
>>96557884>We have an example of one enchanted item producing magical effect in Tamura's scythe.>dwarven spell-scrolls>grim outlook cursed items>It's open-ended like the rest of OR magic is. It's bizzare that anon is fine with open-ended spellcasting when it comes to being a spellcaster but is constantly raising his standards for evidence when it comes to an argument that he's lost.
>>96557921>Tamura's ScytheDoes Panarmament copy its summons? Otherwise that's useless.>Dwarven spell scrollsIf those even count as weapons, you don't need to waste a gift to mass-produce them.>Cursed itemsAnon, they're cursed. They fuck you over for using them, they're bad.
