Wiggle me baby I have to aim the demolisher cannon editionPrevious thread: >>96537947>Legacies:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Thread Question:Do you want one, would you rather suffer the resin assembly or shall you save your time money and space?
>>96549673I see what you did there.jpg>TQNo, I have a Legion Shadowsword project I'm working on.
>>96549673Where horse lady? :(
>>96549713>tfw no auxilia shadowsword
Chugging along painting the saturnine box models, another set of checkers done. Not as clean as I would have liked, but maybe large angled and curved surfaces just don't lend themselves well to clean squares. Anybody else done some painting?
>>96549859I just primed a bumch of stuff, including my AT widgets I swore I'd never paint.All 82 of them.
Why is it that seemingly every woman in BL books has a gratuitous implied sex scene?Also I'm not someone that usually cares about this stuff but if you go by the books it seems like 80% of titans and ships are helmed by women, which seems weird.I just finished the first heretic and while some parts about it were enjoyable holy fuck does every description of Cyrene, the 17 year old prostitute, sound like it was written with one hand.
>>96549684Perhaps the nonprimaris scouts, anon?
>>96549801>>96549673where is she op??
>>96549979Why else include women?
>>96549991or just shave down the height of the nu scale scouts, it 'aint hard
>>96549927Damn, 82 tokens? Painting the tokens from the saturnine box was already a chore. Godspeed anon.
>>96550017There's no escape
>>96550003I mean, if you want to cut their legs up to shorten them then good on you, but I'm fairly sure the person wanting to use primaris in 30k is not inclined or capable of doing so.Unrelated, but that article on the fellblades where ALL the shown models have glaringly ugly seams on the barrels is just kinda sad.
>>96549979>gratuitous implied sex scene?what?
>>96549859lovely checks anon, keep it up.>>96549927Token and widgets represent! I just did mine for a 3.0 event on the weekend.
Yo. Im wanting to start a traitor legion, but need some help. Im kind of stuck choosing between Sons of Horus, or World Eaters. I love both color schemes, but is one more fun than the other? I know theyre both close range, melee oriented forces, but how does WE shooting compare to SoH? In your subjective experience while playing, how do Red Butchers compare to Justaerin? How do Rampagers compare to Reivers?
>>96549979Why is it that anons make shit up that never happened in BL books?For all their actual flaws, you always come up with schizo shit that only proves that you either didn't read or understood them
>>96549991Oh, of course, let me just pop to my LGS and buy some of those totally in production kits...
>>96550089>>96550099Nta but every BL book I've read so far involves whatever female character is most relevant (like Cyrene or Lotara or a random ship captain in The First Heretic) either waking up in bed with a lover or alluding to having fucked with one of their subordinates/whatever in the past)I just find it kind of unsavory that the female characters can't exist outside of having sex when the male characters all seem much more sanitized.
>>96549859I ordered this for my DA squares, hoping it works well. https://goblinhobbies.com/products/goblin-hobbies-stampin-starter-kit
>>96550103>he buys from GWget recast or the literal millions on the second hand market anon, its not hard to find unpainted or NOS ones.
>>96550095Which legion do you find more interesting lore wise?Gameplay wise I'd argue SoH are more conducive to a varied gameplay experience but ultimately every legion can play any type of list, especially in 3.0 where vehicles don't have legion traits and are thus basically the same for each legion.Unit wise, Justaerin are basically the Termies against which all other Termies are measured. All SoH units are pretty fun, my vote would go to them if you have to pick.
>>96550155>every LGS is GW>how dare you enjoy plastic over chinacastOpinion discarded. Thank you for participating.
>>96550183You are pathetic.
>>96550099Please explain what I misunderstood.
>>96550140Wow the hobby aimed towards men has stories involving loose women? What a shock!Go play some Daen of Wsr 2, bitch-ass, and save us the suffering of your presence.
>>96550183>every LGS is GWMy condolences, it must suck to not have room to play. No idea why GW insists on keeping their shops smaller than a broom closet.
>>96550183>ignores point about just buying 2nd hand when this is a kit thats been in production for 20+ yearsYeah ok buddy, enjoy your primaris slop.
>>96550219Its crazy. When I was a kid, I would go to the Sydney battle bunker, a GW store that was probably 200sqm, with 6+ full sized tables.
What does /hhg/ think about Rewards of Treachery Jorlund Hunters? Or are Terror Squads just better?>>96549673>no GoldshipDROPPED
>>96550231It took 2 years for my local warhammer store to get 2 6x4 tables again.
>>96550201BL books don't exist anon. They aren't real.They are just a psy-op. Like birds.
>>96550250Does it fit in with what your force is about? If the answer isn't either yes or "I think they are cool" then I want you to kill yourself.
>>96549673Is adeptus titanicus actually dead game wise or is it just a meme? Just wondering as I'm thinking about getting into it.
>>96550250Immortals.
>>96550251Heresy chads want bigger tables, more terrain and more cool shit. Small tables and L shaped clear acrylics are for virgin 40kayers
>>96550273Check your local you fool.I have a playerbase by me but that doesn't mean anything to some rat living in prague.
>>96550219Because they want you to buy things then go somewhere else to play. You sitting there playing for a few hours doesn't make them money and the smells could run normies off.
>>96550282Yes and my local hasb0 heresy players.>>96550282
>>96549979>>96550140Why are your boy love books focusing on women having sex?
>>96550273Where do you live?
>>96549673probably will get one if the price is justifiable from a third party. For some reason it's the only tank the WE ever seem to use in the lore.
>>96550269>Does it fit in with what your force is about?My force seems to be about lots of infantry and lots of vehicles, but most importantly I have 0 (zero Vanguard) units and it's easier to make a squad of them than volkite foot destroyers. I also have an Allied TS detachment so the irony is funni
>>96550377Well there you go then. You have something useful, neat, and ironic all at once.
>work allows me to sit on my ass not doing anything if we run out of work to dodamn....should've brought some models to paint...should I paint my kitbashed saboteur in black? or AL blue? (maybe black shoulderpads? hes in MK3)
>>96550213My problem isn't that some of the books are pulp slop, it's that all of the ones I've read so far have been garbage. People are always telling me how great the HH books are and I've yet to see any of them actually be good. I've never seen such a cool and interesting setting wasted on such mediocre books.
>>96550219Small retail spaces cost less in rent. Tiny stores run by 1 person were shown to be a profitable model even while GW was financially in the shitter so they opened a fuckload of them. They also experimented opening larger locations (also generally with 1 guy running it) in high foot traffic areas and that also worked since thats pretty much retail basics but because its more expensive and requires some thought they're less common.
>>96550457Most warhammer books I've read are about as good as random litrpg books or YA novels.
>>96550428Without exaggeration since 2021 every model I've acquired has been assembled on the clock at work up to and including an Eldar revanent titan I pinned while looking a customer straight in the eye.
>>96550155Unpainted and not put together? No, not really unless you wanna pay almost tank/knight prices for 10 fuckin infantry.Everyone and their mother had them so there is lots painted/put together out there for a decent price I will say. I wanted my own though and got the new ones. I am a different anon from the original saying he got the new ones and I will say from experience that shaving the feet down fucking sucks. If you can just grab some old shitilly painted ones, do so, because getting rid of paint is easier >>96549673>TQConsidering it. If it’s full and not a hole on the bottom, sure. Otherwise I’m going to wartable and enduring the resin. Super heavy has to be super heavy. I like the new doors but the resin main gun looks more menacing and that’s kinda the point of the whole thing
>>96550561Do you work in an LGS?
>>96550604No.
Does 3.0 give a better game at lower points levels than 2? I see they added in the Rogue Trader psychology stats, and wondered if they made the game crunchier/more RPG-like compared to previous versions.
>>96550632It does. In 2.0 reactions became even more game breaking at lower point games. You needed to house rule them or agree to use the ZM reactions to keep the game functional.In 3.0 the reactions are more restricted and you get less reaction points at lower point games, so it scales better with game size.
>>96550632For 90% of models it's just leadership split into 4 stats that are within 1 of each other. It's useless.
Retard learning the rules hereSo if I'm playing Traitors, can I include a Ruinstorm Harbinger just by itself as an Allied Detachment? And it would just function as a normal unit, no need for the Esoterist inclusion and psychic action?I have a Herald of Khorne from a painting event a while back that I was thinking about including.
>>96550177I love both, but honestly, I find World Eaters more compelling as a legion. On the other hand, I was considering that the slightly more shooty SoH might match my preferred playstyale more. As much as I love WE characters, motivations, and struggles, HH is still a game and *how* an army fights matters, too. Thanks for the input!
>>96550632Sure. But it's still trash. Just fucking play ZM in 1.0 or 2.0 or figure it out yourself.
>>96549993>>96549801Killed by a demolisher shell. Guess she couldn't run fast enough to get out of its line of fire.
Post models.
>>96550703Okay.
>>96550674World Eaters are extremely cool anon, they would make a fine army too!The problem is that in terms of tactics they're encouraged both lore and gameplay wise to take a horde of berserking melee units with maybe a few armoured vehicles, and that can get kind of stale after a hundred games. This could also be a cool opportunity though, playing WE with uncommon playstyles (like leaning into armor or ranged squads)
Do Eternal Warrior and a Medic save stack? Deathwing companions negating D2 hits on a 4+ seems kinda busted.
>>96550703Very nice. All cool but I like the whirlwinds and speeders quite a lot.
>>96550703Painting right now to get done for an event this weekend. I will lose every game but in fully painted SA glory. Once this is done I need to finish up 100 SA lasgunners and Veletarii
>>96550682she doesn't run, she clops
>>96550703It might be a bit until I paint another proper 30k model rather than accessories.
>>96550719They're both worded as happening the same time so it's impossible to say.RAI unfortunately is probably that EW happens first and then you can try to save the remaining damage with the recovery test.
>>96550273It’s a dead game where I live, became as much when LIgma came out. Do check with your LGS however, you never know till you check
>>96550602>Unpainted and not put together? No, not really unless you wanna pay almost tank/knight prices for 10 fuckin infantry.I unno where you live, but I bought 3 squads worth of scouts for like 30 USD that were a mix of NOS or just assembled. They seem pretty common
>>96550713Not really. in 1.0 it strongly encouraged mass infantry, but in 2e and 3e infantry eats shit to WS5 units (and chainaxes suck balls now).So now its just generally the 'get the charge' legion, but not buffing any specific units.
>>96550670You can include it, yes, and you wouldn't need an Esoterist, although one Harbinger is relatively limited on what it can do other than "be a psyker" since as a Malefic model it can only join units consisting of other Malefic models, and the main benefit of the Harbinger is summoning other demons.You can make a unit of your Marines Malefic with the True Believers prime advantage and then attach the Harbinger to them, and he'll make them resistant to damage from failed checks, cast psychic buffs on them and provide a nice Fear aura, at least.
>really in the zone painting>piss into bottle to avoid having to use the bathroom and take a break>rip bong>few minutes pass>get thirsty>so stoned i confuse my water bottle for my urine bottle>fucking take a swig of my piss and don't notice until after i swallow it
>>96550703You got it boss
>>96550625worst surgeon ever
>>96550845Don't do drugs, be an alcoholic and beat your wife like a real man.
>>96550894I can live with it. Couple other people couldn't.
should I homebrew some rules for a master of armour? had some ideas kicking around my head thanks to new army lists like militia giving me a new perspective on the whole idea
>>96550897That would require a wife.
>>96550845If you are doing goyslop like ripping a bong then what really is the downside of consuming other goyslop like literal piss.
>>96550934I think we'll get one eventually via a Tallarn Sloptica
>>96551041>he thinks we'll get interesting journals that expose on campaigns we never got a book forLol. Lmao, even.
>>96550140This might be true. Legion has a female commander be described, have a single conversation with the chapter's protagonist, then the very next scene she is in bed with him.I mean I know she's an Uxor (no pregnancy risk) that is aware she's growing old, the spy is already her lover and he's going to enemy territory tomorrow. But still, she only lasted a single talk before sex.
>>96551118Anon the literal next one is on the War of Bitter Iron
>>96551142Nobody cares about that.
>>96551148I care about it...
>>96549673Looks like it was a Mechanicum Fellblade or something
>>96551142>>96551152What even is that? I don't remember it like I do Prospero or Istvaan or even Paramar, Cthonia and Beta Garmonussy
>>96551160Iron Hands glassing Colchis, first mentioned in Siege of Cthonia.
>>96551152Well you must not be anybody then
>>96551175Ooh nice. Ruthless vs Zealots. Might be fun
>>96550625You're lucky you're a damn fine cop
>>96551186I'm interested in it because A) it's something between calth and Terra so hopefully we get some good corrupted color plates B) my word bearers in particular are championing Malevolent Artifice in addition to the core 4 and are the ones who brought the secrets of daemon engines to my mechanicum so having a techy vs techy match up is very much of interest to me.
>>96550824I'm planning to run Word Bearers so Malefic Marines wouldn't be difficult to utilize. The Totem of Dominion with Heedless Slaughter on some Gal Vorbak might be neat.Pure theorycrafting though.
>>96551246>Totem of Dominion with Heedless Slaughter on some Gal VorbakWord Bearers niggas drop shit like this and then try to get you to believe they're a serious army
>>96551265THE WORD BEARERS ARE A CREDIBLE AND DANGEROUS THREAT TO THE IMPERIUM
>>96551265I have no idea what I'm doing. I just want to be evil and get into melee fights.
>>96551318You will not.
>>96550766Yeah painted, assembled or jumbled ones don’t seem too bad price wise. First anon said unpainted ones though and those fuckers get ridiculousI am in the jeet infested hellscape in the North, where our dollar seems to be dying by the day
>>96549673Why did they give this up for Land Raiders?
>>96551444Dust can't drive anything bigger
>>96549673Amazing >>96549801I've been taking a break from making OPs. I'm sure I'll make some more if the timing is right.
>>96549991They're not Primaris, or first being for that matter. Theyre not even space marines; they're neophytes.
>>96551354Is melee just bad? Lefitimate question, I'm kinda playing this by ear.
>>96551473They are very clearly primaris anon.Look at them, they are taller than normal marines, and they don't even have power armour on.
>>96550848What are those crawlers in the bottom right?
>>96551246The hell's a totem of dominion
>>96551473>They're not Primaris
>>96551479You just won't make it. You personally.
>>96551473>>96551565They are Primaris scale with nu-age details but they are not "Primaris" in the most technical sense. They are literally neophytes and not true marines yet. They're interns with the new work uniform at best.
>>96551246Heedless Slaughter gets you functionally nothing since not many people are packing offensive psykers of any consequence, you'd be better with the Aflame one for Khorne purposes or one of the Dominions that lets you buy decent psychic powers yourself if you're OK with him being a psyker. The chaos gods are quite as reified in 30k as they will be later in the timeline, so the dominions are somewhat themed but still have flexibility.Biomancy and FNP are great but Heavy will slow your footslogging squad right down, so maybe not if you're being aggressive. Telekinesis is a personal favourite, since it has a Pinning (2) gun and allows you to tank somewhat on 5++ 4+++ EW(1) if you have to, but the other disciplines do have their charms.Melee is fine, but expect to be taking a fair amount of heat in the way there, since you can't put a mixed faction squad in a transport. GV are best suited for blending MEQ, they aren't great at fighting terminators. We'll have to see what Forges of Saturn does for Word Bearers in that department.
>>96551722they're primaris designed scouts
I dont know why this is so difficult to get information on:What 30k vehicle has the closest dimensions to a Skorpius Dunerider in 40k? I kind of hate the hoverboat and I keep stealing models from HH for my admech army anyways. I want a transport that doesn't look retarded.
>>96551779Never seen the hoverboat IRL. Is it slightly larger than a Rhino? If so, maybe the solar auxilia dracosan is kinda clase?
>>96551722They are primaris sized, with primaris style gear.I don't know or care enough about the autism of space marine implantation lore to know if they actually have primaris buttplugs implanted already, but they are very clearly primaris anon.All marines in 40k are primaris now, they don't go scout to firstborn to primaris.
>>96551815It's a little longer than a rhino, but not so long that I can use the Triaros.
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>>96551779Dracosan is a bit longer than a rhino so probably that.
>>96551246you'd still be reducing Ld and Cl by -1 each just by having the daemon in the unit, making your Gal Vorbak as weak-minded as Tacticals before any other modifiers are applied - this gives Pinning (X), Suppressive (X) and Stun (X) and various other scenarios a 2/5 chance of inflicting a Wound instead of a Status in the Morale sub-phase instead of a 1/4 chance (ie it becomes 50% more likely to happen - you are asking for trouble with any unit that can inflict Statuses in addition to or instead of Wounds from normal Shooting, it's disproportionately likely to hurt you *because* of the steps you've taken to avoid taking Wounds from normal meansin a Ruinstorm Brutes unit yes, go nuts, but for Gal Vorbak (who have shitty shooting anyway) it's not a great idea, not to mention what happens if you run into Anathema units who you'll struggle to hurt and who will both inflict Wounds on you and cause you to test at Ld7 and Cl6; you're gonna have a bad time with Sisters, never mind a Culexus
>>96551824>autism of space marine implantation loreI am, they're neophytes.
>>96551897Cool, and they are still larger than 30k marines, and have clearly primaris gear. What are you trying to argue my friend?
>>96551889I don't think it's so very bad, you'd have trouble with Anathema anyway with any of those units and Anathema are very rare, plus the Ld penalty combined with the damage reduction from the Icon still stands you in better stead than a stock unit of GV taking double the damage from failed status checks. Brutes would probably be slightly more efficient, I agree there.
>>96549979Cyrene came from a religious hell hole and if youre talking about the girl in Fulgim, well.... it's a story about the Emperor's Children fall to chaos
>>96551991Honestly the biggest loss from mixing factions here is the random scoring rule that all-demons units have, since their HQs have good enough mental stats to reliably get Line 1-3 in an unmixed squad. Unfortunately all of the Word Bearers demon stuff is utterly useless at buffing allied demons and vice versa, they should really get a legion variant that actually synergises there rather than a couple of minor melee buffs with spooky names.
>>96551134Did you finish the book?
>>96551746>>96551889I might look into something other than the Harbinger, but definitely looking at getting something to use as Brutes.
Is it worthwhile to spend the points to upgrade a Rhino's pintle-mounted weapons?
>>96552230yes, havoc or heavy flamer
>>96552230I made a big unit of termis panic with a drive by heavy flamer from a rhino. Massive implications for that game but definitely felt cheesy.I feel like with panic from flame weapons there should be a minimum 5 of them to cause it?
>before the first shot is fired, the Word Bearers upload demonic scrap code to Calth’s grid>Gulliman brings it up on a call with Lorgar and his commanders>the commanders almost give it away by reacting badly to Gulliman noticing it and suggest the Word Bearer’s may be connected to it>Lorgar has to personally gaslight Gulliman to make sure there’s no further probing about their intentionsThis scene was straight out of a comedy, but oddly fitting.
>>96552338Still more competent than the FBI
How does /hhg/ feel about the rumors of daemon primarch Lorgrar and darkmech in 40k ?
>Fellblades only get a single pintle weapon and a front mounted hunter killer missilelame and gay
>>96550710Very impressive
>>96552280>>96552302>And they shall know no fearWhy would astartes panic from fire, their armour is literally void proof wtf so gay
>>96552023I dont want to spoil who this "spy" is. I'm downplaying it massively. The uxor couldn't *not* have sex with him. I think she did have a normal scene with Bronzi before that.I will say, the Geno Chiliad? I wrote a horny OC Forgeworld before I got Legion, and it's pretty much on the same level
>>96549991They're not primaris anon they don't have all the organs yet and a marine only becomes primaris after receiving the bellisarian furnace. They're not even really space marines until they get the black carapace; scouts are scouts are scouts.
>>96549673I certainly want one. I don't want the resin brick even if I was certain it would go together well.God knows how I'd paint the thing though. A big tank like that really needs weathering and I don't know how to do that very well.
How do you feel about WS6 T8 I5 mhara gals coming to spank your character's booty
>>96552729Bring it, bitch.
>>96552523Which paints best convey this tone of blue? Seems to have a bit of red in it. I wanna do something like it for elites.
>>96552737I'll be trying Shyish Purple (I am literally trying to replicate that IA colorscheme)
>>96552733>my WS5 T9 I5 champion leviathan on blocks your path
>>96552745Bring it, BITCH
>>96552729My WS4 I5 S11 T8 D4 Osiron is enough.
>/hhg/ independently rediscovers dreadnoughts are fun even when they're not good
>>96552771everyone already knew they were fun but /hhg/ is just power gamers with a cloak on so if they're not optimal people don't want them.
>>96552714Give it to an indian guy for a week and it will naturally weather. Just spray a varnish over it to seal it in.
>>96552815Couldn't I just bury it in the garden for a day?
>>96552742I did look into Liquitex's Phthalocyanine Blue, the Red Shade one. But it's an ink, so it might be a pain in the ass if you don't varnish.
>>96549859Hit the brass and the metallic black on my myrmidons and prepping for doing the OSL, all that's left is that, clean up, and the snow on the bases.
>>96551779>I kind of hate the hoverboat Would putting some tracks on it make it better?
>>96552920
>>96552920NTA but damn that looks good, now stop trying to tempt me into starting a tech guard militia army
>>96552940Sounds like a great post-Christmas project to me.
>>96552841Why would it being a varnish be an issue?
>>96553024I've been told that inks can be a lot more fragile, notably when used via airbrush. Maybe with a brush it's not so bad?
>>96552538This edition is retarded. They took any of the good ideas they had and slathered them in shit.
>>96553032Nah, totally not anon. I use inks all the time, specifically liquitex ones as well, and they are fantastic.Theyre great through the airbrush, and with a regular brush inks behave somewhat similarly to contrast paints, so i use them that way on metallics in particular.I've never had any issues with them at all.
>>96551318What the hell, I always thought those gritted teeth were dry old man lips
>>96553082/wip/ was telling me otherwise, but I suppose it depends. Do you think it down with anything in particular?
>>96553091Dunno, what were they saying specifically?Pic related is one of my lads.The shadows are all with liquitex inks airbrushed (and the max highlights on the white).The bolt pistol casing is black liquitex brushed over zenithal white.I do varnish, but only when I specifically need it (I.e. to kill shine after certain shiny paints, under/over decals, or between oil layers).
>>96553104Too retarded to actually attach pic
>>96553104>>96553106I believe it came down to things like using speedpaints (Citadel contrast, etc) and inks through an airbrush possibly having a weaker coat with flaking bits. That's at least happened to me once with the former with two test models when using an airbrush.
>>96553113I can't comment about the contrast paints since I've never used them through an airbrush, but I've definitely had no issues with inks. I usually still think it down with airbrush thinner, if that'd make any difference?I unno, I would just try it for yourself anon. Some times people get weird issues that come down to stuff like the temp/humidity of where they live etc.
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>>96552729Am i missing something, who are you giving the mhara gal these buffs?
>>96553131Hell yeah. I'm printing a Triple Missile Box and I'm so fucking excited about it.
do (you) think the saturnine command squad will have a capacity of five models?i think four is the other possibilityi hope it's not just threeleaning towards two with hammers to accompany the praetor so endowed as well and then three choppers w/ massive rape axesfucking holy fuck a power axe scaled up to a saturnine's extent is wicked as shit. brutal stuff.
>>96553131
>>96553280>A Hierarch of the Dark King, in the timeline long forsaken
>>96553280Slop Faggots Not Welcome.
>>96553307And yet I see avid 3.0 discussion every thread.
Where are the rules about allies joining squads? There's nothing in the rulebook in the list building section but other rules imply allies joining squads has negative consequences?
>>96552949Damn I been looking for photos of this army for ages. Great stuff from Aussie white dwarf. You got any more photos of this army? Many thanks!
>>96553342It's in the units section, advanced principles
>>96553348cheers
>>96553347Here's all the pages of the article, plus the pdf of the whole thing:https://mega.nz/folder/q8wRlRCZ#FxqgjnijjvBT1iMYnB0aSw
>>96550703reporting in.
>>96553534
>>96553538thanks. you know what I wear daily.
>>96553565hee heevery extensive first legion force though, great stuff <3
>>96553603thank you anon. One of a few benefits of being unbaked as we call it here. 2/3 of it is just left over stuff from people at the store, or gift from the store manager. Rest is what my mom bought me.
>>96553610sugoi
a humble proontpothecary! halfway handsome anyhow. he'll certainly do the trick.among a matching set of eight in loadout, though they're all plastic or chyna resin otherwise
>>96553719>Fallax blades2.0 WAACfag spotted
>>96553725i'd be very pleased to use them with a mere 5+ or even 6+ rending were it preferredthey're the only remotely 'practical' caedere weapons and twin swords on a marine are killer
>>96553719Very nice. Stay focused my brother. Stay healthy and proont.
>>96553760oh boy he's all rigged up. sick!
>>96549979It's a sales tactic, making the stories a representation of how consumers of GW products think, so they associate with the products GW publishes - women are having sex everywhere, just not with the type of people who read BL books. "Yeah that's just like me! I will read (and purchase) more of this!"
>>96553380thank you so much - so nostalgic. This 3 month series and then the other one with lost and the damned and vostroyans are iconic to me and peak Warhammer when it was about creativity and conversions and thematic armiesYou've made an anon very happy
>>96549979Sadly you made this up, and there are no sex scenes at all in the HH novels. Which is a shame, because it would improve the books greatly.
>>96551134This was kinda necessary to show how much of a gigachad John Grammaticus is tho.
>>96550457>People are always telling meGrow up and form your own opinion.
I built half my Cataphractii box with lightning clawsWas that a mistake?
>>96554009Yeah it should have been all of them
i found Legion, Mechanicum, Know No Fear, and Prospero Burns to be very good bits of sci-fi in and of themselves concerning the series of books and stand-out entries among the main sequenceprospero burns in particular is my favorite of the whole lot. very much from the point of view of a remembrancer or somesuch similar observer embedded with the wolves. vivid stuff and actually aided imo in the depiction by its coming from the eyes of a near-baseline human beholding it all as we would beone marine-ass marine book fr
>>96553928that and that will of iron converted iron warriors army from that time too. Peak 3.5
>>96551565>tempestus primaris
>>96554020Most of the books that show marines only as side characters are good.
>>96554106>primaris CAD-anus
>>96552442>no legion stormblade packing a rack of big missiles
>>96553200I'm expecting the squad to be something like >3 chosen for 250 pts, armed with axes and fists, WS5 and 3A compared to based saturnine>one model is a chosen champ and has Sergeant + champion keyword and +1 A>+80ppm for up to 3 additional chosen >+10ppm to replace a weapon with a concussion hammer (likely the axe, but maybe GW's insane and let's you do the are + hammer like praetors)>+5ppm for particle shredders >+20 points for legion standard This is mostly based on the % upcharge of other command squads based on their basic version, but honestly if GW is sane they probably end up closer to 300/+90 because their stats are really cracked once you solve their melee inadequacies, especially once you start handing out praetor weaponry, and they get downright unholy once you start passing out biomancy buffs.
>>96551565Just cover the back with a greenstuff Camo-cloak.
>>96554020basing Prospero Burns off the Ibn Fadlan accounts of the vikings was a clever way to follow a legion for sure though that is quite a unique opportunity with the wolves. Plotwise I think there wasn't much payoff especially with the subterfuge, which is a problem really with all the books you mentioned. It is the problem with trying to insert subterfuge into events that are already laid in stone, basically whatever the author does just resets back to having zero consequences ultimately. Overall though they are great sci-fi flicks in their own right and do a lot to make the setting less familiar and therefore interesting.
>>96549673>Try mixing in some other helmets with the new mk iis for some variety >They're all noticably oversized compared to the default helmetsWelp, guess I have to use all mk ii helmets or nothing
>>96554384I feel you could have cut maybe 20% of the book without losing much of importance, it does take an extremely long time to actually get going between the fun let's-meet-the-vikings start and the beginning of the actual plot.
>>96554009Only if you're throwing them at other termiesMy lerneans all have LC because it looks cool + they strike at i4 and the breach/rend/ap3 rapes power armor
>>96554509>Suggesting terminators fighting anything other than terminatorsHERESY!!
>>96554020>>96554384I thought Thousand Sons was better overall than Prospero Burns.
Is there any termie loadout that would counter a t-hammer termie squad?Would axes work? Half the damage and worse wounding but striking earlier than hammers. Lightning claw maxing perhaps? Stacking biomancy on top?
>>96554526Biomancy + TLCs would do the trick, but the real meta breaker will be if sat command squads with biomancy if they're reasonably costed, since even if armed with just axes and fists they can kill like 4 hammers when buffed up while only losing 1 in return on average. The downside of course being you can only get to like 4 saturnine + biomancer before you have to start worrying about whether you'll lose reaping blow, but you lose a lot of efficiency swapping to hammers because D3 + crit hit is just super overkill into a lot of things
>>96554526Shoot them from a safe distance with AP 2 D2 weapons. My best anti-terminator unit has always been my laser destroyer rapier squad.
>>96554526>thunder hammer terminatorsWhat is this 2.0? These are shit now.
Any reason to bother with the Mars-pattern Predator kit these days? I know there's less options, but figure I'd ask since it's considerably cheaper and has the options I want, not really too partial to either aesthetically.
>>96554526Let's assume a ten man ws5 cata squad with 3a each and 4a on sgt buffed with biomancy into another ten man WS5 cata squad.Axes:31 attacks; 15.5 hits; 12.9 wounds of which 5.2 are ap2, causing a total of approximately 3.9 damage (two dead Termies)Dual LC: 51 attacks; 25.5 hits; 21.25 wounds of which 8.5 are ap2, causing a total of approximately 6.4 damage (3 dead Termies)
>>96554573Idk they're still insane into other Termies,for a squad of ten into another squad you're getting 31 attacks, 15.5 hits, 12.9 wounds, 6.5 after saves. Each attack is D2 so thats 6 dead Termies.>>96554591Twin LC actually edges out thunderhammers in optimization against EW(1) by virtue of striking so much earlier
I am losing my goddam mind trying to pick a color scheme, may jsut have a mix in the end. After fucking up/hating a bunch of dirty metallics I tried red and kind of like it. May also just say fuck it and pick green, make them Boramanite Devils.
>>96554589Yeah you can use it. Mars pattern vehicles were used throughout the Heresy and Great Crusade. They were cheaper and easier to maintain, but where considered cruder.The Iron Warriors used a lot of Mars Pattern vehicles.
>>96554589mars pattern hulls are pretty perfectly kosher, deimos ones are just more the poster child of the setting in its historical sort of lighti like the both on separate notes myself, but my mars-looking one is a proontjob
>>96554610>Terminators aren't very good this edition>Yeah but they beat up other terminators!The entirety of your playgroup seems to be operating under a sunk cost fallacy. Some of the legion specific ones are okay, but they're all packing WS5 so most shit just bounces off of them to the point where you're better off tarpitting with a dreadnought/tacticals or just shooting them
>>96554722>tarpitting with dreadnought and tacticals Bud I think you're the one stuck in 2.0, the dread is going to get drowned in thunder hammers and take out maybe one if it gets lucky, and the tacticals will be similarly cut down especially considering you're basically giving them a full free shooting phase between two rounds of volley fire (normal volley fire + gun down). The best form of delaying them is playing keepaway if they have vanguard, but if they're a command squad type or god forbid have line you're kinda SOL since they can just sit in a building out of LOS and hold the objective daring you to come face them
>>96554526Terranic greatswords via Deathwing Companions. Fuck d2.
>>96554526>Is there any termie loadout that would counter an anti-termie loadout termie squad?What do you think?>biomancyAt that point is not really a termie loadout is itThe easy answer is TH Emperor children allied termies
I simply choose to Power Fist fellow terminators. If you’re mathhammering harder than “punch them very hard” you’re a fag and probably play Night Lords
>>96554630>>96554634Oh I'm aware that it's fine and dandy, it's just in regards to them as kits themselves. A little inconvenienced by the Deimos being split into two separate boxes, but as far building, magnetizing etc - would one or the other be easier to work with?
>>96554526axes: 1/37 for 1D non-Breaching, 1/12 (vs 4++) or 1/9 (vs 5++) for 1D Breaching, but only 1/6 to either Breaching or non-Breaching and 1/3 overall to a W before Sclaws: 1/12 to 1D Rending (vs 4++) or 1/9 (vs 5++), 1/37 to 1D Breaching (4++) or 1/27 (5++); non-Breaching non-Rending 1/55 and 1/4 overall to a W before Shammers: 1/5 (vs 4++) or 1/4 (vs 5++) for 2D, 2/5 overall to 2W before Shammers don't change with Biomancy so no point using itassuming WP9 for the psyker, no other charge benefits to S or WS for the unit, the overall path to W is multiplied by 5/6 (the chance of 9 or less on 2D6) and the alteration to Sboth axes and claws become 2/5 overall to 1D before Sclaws Rending remains the same; Breaching for claws remains the same (actually they get worse because of the Biomancy roll requirement, but since there's no negative effect to the unit if those don't go off, and since the Hit/Wound rolls necessary are unchanged, we'll call them the same)axes Breaching go to 1/14 (4++) and 1/11 (5++) because the second extra point of S is wasted and the drag from the 5/6 hurts them more than the non-wasted S can compensate foretc etctl;dr you have more chance to get to a W at various stages of claw attacks, more chance of a W after Hit rolls with axes because of the higher S and Breaching values but overall relying on Biomancy makes them worse because of the 5/6 requirementhowever claws make more attacks when paired and don't slow you down in either configuration so are the smarter choice over axes for this purpose because they have identical outcomes from Rending over Breachingfor something with higher T the Breaching chance with claws drops off faster and you become reliant on Rending alone to W after T5, where an axe or hammer continues to damage much more readily at higher T values
>>96554589huh? It's $2 more than a Deimos if you but from GWEven the used ones I saw on ebay were slightly more
>>96554934the deimos from GW i found to be hugely congruent with turret head magnetization given the sort of plate that the gun is installed atop of that sort of floats freely in its confines in the turret itself. from what i can discern from the mars predator sprue this isn't quite so straightforward with it, and said kit is only supplied with the autogun and lascannons besides whereas a deimos has like four main weapons or whatever with each version
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>>96554976>from what i can discern from the mars predator sprue this isn't quite so straightforward with itIt's pretty straight forward. The guns on the mars have 2 pags on each side that act as the axis. You can cut them and drill a hole for the magnet and place another magnet on the hole the peg goes into in the turret. It's not harder than the deimos
>>96554773>Bud I think you're the one stuck in 2.0, the dread is going to get drowned in thunder hammers and take out maybe one if it gets luckyAnd the thunder hammers are strength 7 so they bounce off of big dreads and only wound redemptors on a 4, ergo they're probably not killing either and are locked in a stalemate. Which is how tarpitting works retard.
>>96555035Homie out here bringing Primaris dreads to 30k
>>96554589The mars pattern model is very easy to magnetise the weapon options for. The deimos pattern not so much.
>>96555043Retardemptor dreads then, sure
>>96554773>The terminators do some wounds>The dreadnought flattens out one or two terminators>The dread wins combat because combat resolution is now based on casualties and not wounds>Terminators shit themselves and start running because stubborn/inexorable no longer existsDunno, anon does have a point.
>>96555075conversely >dread kills a guy>termis don't kill dread>you get combat res for having more models>you get combat res for any banner>dread loses combat>dread has to run away now
>>96555075I think the terminators would usually have a vexilla/points for outnumbering, so most of the time it comes out to a draw. Which is fine since a Leviathan is like 300 points max & a redemptor is like 200, so either way you're happy tying up 400 points of terminators
>>96555092>dread has to run away now>NOOOOO NOT THE 2% CHANCE OF FAILING A LEADERSHIP TEST SOMEONE SAVE ME AAAAH
>>96552742Update: If you prime white and AGGRESSIVELY thin it, shyish purple is an ok approximation, otherwise it's a dark violet sort of color
>>96555035>>96555099"Redemptor"
>>96555110there was a 0% chance you should have been born, yet here you stand
>>96555043It is merely an usual pattern of leviathan with a different weapons loadout.
>>96555092Walkers count as their number of wounds for the purposes of number of models in resolution. If he kill 1 guy then it's already a draw even with a flag in the termie unitEven if he doesn't kill anything and the termies win by 1 that's a -1 check on Ld12.It's not impossible but it's very unlikely
>>96555119There's a 0% chance you own a redemptor dread, but here you are
>>96555140>If he kill 1 guy then it's already a draw even with a flag in the termie unitIf he kills 1 termie on a unit of 5 he's already outnumbering them and getting +1 for killing something so he's winning the engagement if the only thing they have is a flag to counter it
>>96555151For the purposes of this argument we're assuming a ten man thunder hammer terminator squad because anon is a retard who thinks spamming terminators is good still
>>96555035>>96555075Are you retarded? 10 WS5 TH Terminators kill a dreadnought twice over while they struggle to kill one, dreads are WS4 retards
>>96555265TH cap out at str 7 retard
>>9655526510 WS 5 terminators vs contemptor>Dread attacks first, lets say kill 1 for simplicity>9 terminators with 3 attacks each is 27 attacks>Hit on 3+ so 18 hits>Wound on a 4+ so 9 wounds>5+ invulnerable save so 6 unsaved woundsThat's only just about enough, not twice over. Not that great actually, considering 10 terminators with hammers are three or four times the points that contemptors are now.
>>96555316I can't tell if you're pulling my leg or not, but thunder hammers are damage 2, that is killing the dreadnought twice over.
>>96555265>520p worth of retinue terminators kill one 155p dreadnought easily. >That means they goodAre you sure you are not the retard?
>>96555338I thought nobody plays 3.0
>>96555035>Redemptor
>>96555354>try to use them as a tarpit >gets raped easily and gives them a free consolidate move instead Nah pretty sure it's still you. I'm not the one who fed a dreadnought to them
The dreadnought cannot win close combat if you shoot it to death before it gets into range
>>96555423Same goes for terminators.
>>96555396Except the other one I listed was the Leviathan Dread- if it's a retinue squad I might not send out a redemptor to hold them in place (tho I'd be comfortable enough risking one against normal terminators), but a Leviathan Dread you'd absolutely send against a retinue, doubly so when it's tatpitting like 600 points of models instead of 400.And this is all saying nothing of the fact that TH straight up do nothing/almost nothing against rear armor 14/13 vehicles, rendering them that much more useless in a variety of situations. Like when a kratos move blocks you and your dinky little hammers bounce off it while it keeps one shotting things
just stop engaging with the tourist
>>96555423>Pins your spartan in your dzOopsies, guess your 600 point death ball has to walk now
>>96555534Just because I use my cataphractii terminators as assault terminators with thunder hammers in 40k doesn't make me a tourist
>>96554963On the Ausfag site I buy off, it's $68 AUD for the Mars and $89 for the Deimos.
>>96555554Maybe they've got a lot of backstock
>>96555577The store apparently has 11 of them which seems a bit better than most 30k kits they have, granted current 40k is overdue to show this the upstate farm. Think it's worth grabbing at least one?
>>96555547It makes you a tourist twice over.
How are sunkillers this edition? Is there something I missing? Vet heavy supports squads seem more useful (for twice the durability)
>>96555667Veteran heavy support squads are not amazing either desuI guess if you have a spare elite slot and no support slots you can pay the premium for them. But not being able to use their Implacable advance unless it's a heavy flamer seems like a waste
>>96555711Disintergrator blasters also allow implacable advance, as do all the special weapons.
>>96555737>as do all the special weaponsyea but that's the point, you might as well use them as veteran TSS than with the heavy weapons.>Disintergrator blastersI think you might as well give them the heavy version, at least that's something normal HSS can't take on you wound terminators better than a 4+.
>>96555667On a related noted, why the hell are Iron havocs 25ppm? Sure they get weapons for cheaper (15 for lascannons for example), but a ten man las havoc squad is 410 vs a HSS being 350.That's a lot to be paying extra (on an already expensive as hell unit) for the ability to ignore cover.Sunkillers at least can be thought of as just HSS+, you're paying 15 pts more for the ability to get bs5 once per game and to have the ability to go up to 20 dudes.
>>96555667>>96555711VHSS have A2 and 2W and they aren't saddled with HeedlessThey basically mog every unique Legion heavyspam squad
Going to get an airbrush for Christmas and then I'll finally get back into HH after my first failed foray back when BaC was released. But what legion should I choose? I like Iron Hands, Ultramarines and Emperor's Children... What legion do you guys believe offers the most fun when it comes to painting, playing (thematic, don't give a shit about winning) and going pew pew while looking at my minis?
>>96555928>They basically mog every unique Legion heavyspam squad2A is pretty useless on a unit attacking with 48" weapons and 2W is probably not very useful either considering the counter fire is likely also going to be a heavy weapons with more than 1D.Them being better than legion specific units doesn't make them good. They are all pretty bad compared to the same points of regular HSS
>>96556009IH for shootingEC for meleeUM for reactionsOr you know, just do all of them since the allied rules are pretty lax this edition
>>96553719Love that print. I made one for DG and one for IW.
>>96556009>most fun when it comes to paintingprobably ultramarines, the blue and white looks great and its not too hard to mess up. The purple on EC is notoriously hard to pull off and IH are either quite boring or you have to work hard at doing effects. >most fun at playingagain probably utramarines, you ust have options of where to take a force with great melee units in the suzerain and fun units in the terminators (forgot the name). IH also have options but they aren't offering anything much more special than legion breachers and terminators gameplay wise. EC are too one dimensional and aren't even the best at what they do. >pew pew pew while looking at minisspace romans are always nice to look at.
Is a painting brush better or worse than an airbrush? Does one get better results than the other considering equal skill? Or is it a combination for truly best results. I’m asking because I’m gonna start painting soon and want to really aspire to have my models look fantastic.
>>96556177You can't paint miniatures with an airbrush. You can prime them, base them or make some highlights and shadows to big areas of the same color. But you are not going to be painting anything smaller than the biggest colors with an airbrush unless you want to spend an exorbitant amount of time masking everythingAt least unless you are playing knights or a vehicle only army. And even then you need brushes for washes
>>96556205I ask because I saw this and wondered if this same thing can be done via paint brush. I he doesn’t really mask much and sprays the whole model generally. Yes I know it’s Primaris, but I’m looking for guides to approach a grim dark painting scheme for sallies for HH marines.>https://youtu.be/Mshe6pzNICI?si=0myAJIGFabTcRkzy
>>96556298what are you smoking dude the fuck does he use it for besides effectively priming the model lmao
you can prime a model with a brush btw and be a hell of a lot more thorough about it than trying to get an aerosol spray from either a rattlecan or an airbrush into every last nook and cranny insodoing
>>96556404He primed it grey and then proceeds to also just apply paint via airbrush. I’m asking if it’s better to use a paint brush instead of an airbrush. I hear things that airbrush is worse than paint brush and vice versa. Just want to get peoples opinions based on their experience.
>>96554009If you built the olde kit yeah you fucked up
>>96556437>Just spend 30 hours priming before you even get to actual basecoats broI'm gonna go with no
>>96549859I'm working on White Scars so that I can play as a loyalist sometimes
>>96556177an airbrush can make certain things easier, and take less time, like smooth basecoats and gradients, but there's not really anything you really need an airbrush for, while you'll definitely need to do at least some brush work if you want decent results on any minis you paint. a lot of people never get an airbrush, and paint very well without one, and many who do have an airbrush basically only use it for priming and basecoating, which can be done with rattle cans and/or brushes. it's a convenient tool, but it won't make you good at painting.
can anon reupload the 3d print file for tauros and tauros venators?I remember it was posted here when militia rules droppedI have the link for the previous upload (https://gofile.io/d/O00N4j) but i'm not buying a premium gofile account to download it
do these read as upscaled mk2/mk3? Wanted a big boy or two so I hacked up some cenobium recasts
why do cataphractii look so much cooler than tartaros? why do they get like three steps more going on at base visual? why are they too slow for my legion to ever want them?
>>96554509I was looking at almost all power axes on my Lerns, maybe with a hammer or chainfist on the boss. They have slightly-better-than-trivial guns even on the guy without the conversion beamer, and their Hatred pushes their stock power axes up to killing Marines on 2+, but now that I think about it they are pretty damn good at claws. Maybe I'll season in some claws for drip.
>>96556887Thank you. And is the saying true? Thin your paints?
Hey gang, going out on a limb here, but does Heresy or Legions Imperialis have solo rules or at least some WIP solo rules? I want to play, but my buddies aren't interested in Heresy or LI.Thanks a ton.
>>96553632>Primaris Space Marine
>>96557017>cool old design by talented people that's been around for ages>vs.>egg
>>96557017They don't. People don't really look at the design of them long enough to realize how ugly they are.
>>96557310cata don't look like eggs thowhy you tryna shit on Bob Naismith anon
>>96550095Both cool.SoH are more dignified, world eaters probably more fun
>>96557017If cataphractii are supposed to be cooler then why does everyone have to change they way the pauldrons sit on the shoulders so there's no universally derided gap between them and the carapace?
Tartaros need embellishmemt to look good. EC have the best tartaros followed by TS mising in their 40k bits.Cataphractii don't look good no matter what you do. That's not their point, cata is the 1950's steel refrigerator of terminator armor.
>>96556993https://gofile.io/d/Vrl0wF
>>96557875many thanks lad
Honestly it's kind of annoying that pretty much everyone that isn't ogryn gets rite of pure thought in augmented levy. Would it make sense for it to apply to skitarii at least? I wanted to use skitarii vanguard as my Grenadiers
Now the varnish on the transfer and the shading of the scrap on the base has to dry, and then this paladin of the hekatonystika is ready for the final varnish layer.
>>96557017>>96557673the goat is cata with tartaros helmets
>>96557673But I didn't like cataphractii at first and looking at them longer is what made me like them now?
Volkite Squad done.
>read lord of the red sands>find out it's a short story>find out it's just a boring fanfic>find out it's not even about Angron's life on Nugenix, but just more isstvaan shitI just want an actual backstory for this retard so I can understand why he became a screaming retard.
>>96558334Angron: Slave of Nuceria
>>96558250You're just dumb
>>96551473If they're not Primaris, then why are they taller than normal Marines, anon?
>>96551835Why can't you? Don't tell me you stoop to playing with the kind of inspid poofters who'd chuck a hissy because your proxy vehicle is 0.000007mm longer than the Official Games Workshop Plastic Artisinal Miniature(tm), do you? Have some fucking self respect anon.
>>96558374All the kill team specific kits are slightly upscaled. Arbites are taller than 30k marines.
>>96554020I'll never forgive Mechanicum for validating the dumb>Oh wait, you thought the Mechanicus were an interesting exploration of what happens to humans in extremis when they abandon reason and innovation for the sake of survival, and the dangers of dogmatism and mindless ritual? HAH, get real faggit, they were ACKSHULEE sekritly brainwashed by a Lovecraftian mecha-god that got buried on their planet by DA EMPRAH because he knew thousands of years in advance he would need a bunch of factories run by zealots he could control by pretending to be Mechajesus, all according to keikaku doncha knowbullshit.
>>96558414That only affects some of them, though. The vast, vast, vast majority of the mechanicum/cus never even see Mars, and the ones that were really enthralled went over to the Dark Mechanicum while the Emperor worshipping guys formed the Mechanicus.My pet theory is that due to the insane amounts of AI that used to be made and utilized during the DAoT, the Mechanicum is almost completely correct about machine spirits existing in even mundane equipment due to those semi-sentient intelligences infecting silicon like an actual, physical virus.Not all of it will have them, but every so often there definitely will be a toaster that will take offense to you pressing the eject button the wrong way.
>>96558319Nice. Got me wondering, is there a reason for volkite charger TSS now that models can move and shoot with calivers?
>>96558395*buzzer* False, individual KTs are scaled appropriately. Kasrkin and Arbites are slightly larger than the norm because they're meant to be recruited from the most physically imposing candiates. If you compare Navy Breachers, for example, with normal Cadian minis and account for the former's big honkin' spaceboots they're the same height.nuScouts have Primaris detailing and are bigger because they're part of the Primaris range, and are Primaris. You will never be accepted here.
>>96558478>You will never be accepted here.You talk like a faggot and I will disagree with everything you post solely because of the way you type.
>>96558430You're missing the point, and the machine spirits thing is a perfect example of that. The original Mechanicus fluff is that their society originated in the collapse of the Martian terraforming project during the Age of Strife, that their grand society is reduced to a handful of bunkers desperately trying to survive as the surface becomes the domain of rogue AI-driven nanoswarms and warp-corrupted carniverous biomechs and just generally reverts to being good old radiation-soaked no-air Mars. They *give up* their curiosity and their creativity in pursuit of survival because teaching a student to be a thinker and a scientist is time and calories spent that could be used elsewhere, so instead they teach them to maintain Type 7 Atmospheric Co-processors *and nothing else*, and so bit by bit knowledge is passed down in a more and more rote fashion with fewer and fewer among them having access to broader information, and over a thousand years of drudgery instruction manuals become Holy Scripture and maintenance routines become rituals that must be conducted to appease the Spirit of the Machine. They reduce themselves from science to animism, from inquiry to dogma, from scientists and educated workers to priests and a worshipful ignorant mass.THAT is what made the Mechanicus interesting, that under all the cool cybernetics and fancy robes they're a society of Boomer Grandads shouting at their computer or ritually blowing on VHS tapes and putting them in and out of the machine three times before hitting play because they don't truely *understand* how any of it works and one time doing that Made It Go.The new fluff eliminates all the profundity because that origin was no longer their choice. Everything about them ultimately traces back to the Emperor imprisoning the Dragon on Mars to subconsciously influence the subsequent development of that world so there would be a Mechanicum there in 30K for him to use to fuel the Great Crusade.
>>96558499Caring more about how it sounds than what's said? Like a dog, or a small child. Nice.
>>96558499I'm sure there's a reality in the multiverse where I care, but it's not this one. Jog on back to /40kg/ with the other subnormals where you belong.
>>96558531cont.The new fluff also laid the groundwork for the modern version of the Mechanicus, which has completely lost all of that flavour and plays all their beliefs completely straight. "Machine spirits" are no longer 99.99999% just ignorant people who don't understand technology anthropomorphising their gun and a very occasional shackled AI that the tippy-top level of priests want to pretend isn't that because it's too useful, now literally every toaster in the galaxy has a literal actual consciousness in the warp. It's retarded.
>>96558499> I will disagree with everything you post40k tourists should be allowed oxygen.
Which units have a Cognis Signum?The Warsmith, the Siegebreaker, anything else?
Is this a Medusa mortar?
>>96558841Close enough
>>96558531>>96558556innermost rings of the cvlt know(or perhaps knew) that consciousness pervades all things and is itself the substrate of reality
>>96558556machine spirits were always a thing, Titans literally eat the souls of the princeps and a good neough princeps can go into the Avatar State and speak with all his predecessors
>Should have a 2.5k Titanicus game tomorrow>vs Legio MortisENGINE KILLINGENGINE KILLINGENGINE KILLINGENGINE KILLINGENGINE KILLING
>>96559170FUCK legio mortis
>>96559174I'm gonna try
>>96559170FUCKLEGIOMORTIS
>>96558478Why would you go in the Internet and lie? KT is upscaled and that's not new info.
>>96558841Yes, this kit is smaller than the old resin carriage. Great kit though.
>>96559174Bully bitch late coming daddys favorties sucker punching wankers the lot of them.
>>96557673They do.
>>96554626>I am losing my goddam mind trying to pick a color scheme,Same I have stripped my solar aux five times
>>96559050>good neough princeps can go into the Avatar State and speak with all his predecessorsThis sounds cool. Have we seen that? I don't know whether a Titan's heart would be a repository of living ancestors ...or a gaping maw hungry to devour its next so-called 'master'.That's how Principes die, after all. One day they plug in, and they never return
>>96559256It happens in one of the books, I think in Titanicus? Probably comes up in other media too
>>96559256>Have we seen that?Dan Abnett's Titnaicus does that. This is the only really proper Titan novel that has been written.There was some Knight book that did something similarly (appropriately) but that was equally the only media that did something like that.
og missile veteran w/ chainaxebattalion-level specialist appended dude, i think i fancy
>>96559279These true-scale marines, or whatever you're calling them, look like fat downy retards. Legitimately awful.
>>96552925That does look a lot better. The turret/hull look like the original skorpius, what are the treads from?
>>96558841Technically I think it’s the “Heavy Mortar” but it’s a short barreled artillery piece. It’s a Medusa if you say it is. I was working on that kit today
>>96559277it's deeply upsetting knowing we'll never see the batshit insane tribal skitarii from titanicus
>>96558389The Trairos is like 50% longer my guy it's not even close.
>>96559311Anon how in God's name do you not recognize a chimera track
>>96558464yeah they're 25-50 points cheaperif you're throwing them out of a transport anyway the range issue doesn't matter
>>96559307thank you, they're meant to be a little distorted and oh-so gloriously ugly relative to the restbut the abdominal aberrance has been very much toned down relative to the base models in the ones i'm doing up ;w;they're a little bigger but not very much out of phase in proportion relative to all the rest
>>96559311Backwards facing Chimera tracks.
The whole myrmidax cohort finally painted minus the 3 tech priests I kitbashed this weekend
>>96559339>it's meant to be bad and ugly
>>96559335Because the only guard player I know is the LGS owner, and he doesn't run chimeras. He runs like 6 Russ, a baneblade chassis and a bunch of Krieg cavalry painted to look like steel legion.
>>96559352astartes aren't much at all pretty in my vision and take on things. much more horrifying.the stranger, grislier, and more unsettling, the better
>>96559346oof that is nasty, I would shudder to play against it, but nice work anon
>>96559307Facts anon, troonscalers and "my vision" proonters begone
>>96559339how is the mental illness diagnosis going, the new meds don't seem to be helping anon.
>>96559307Affirm OP's body dysmorphia you bigot
>>96559325You can still kitbash this and I believe one of the milita provinces are bionics
>>96559488He should be holding onto his stomach in pain not doing a come at me bro hand pose
>>96559346Kino Name of the 3d myrmidon prints?
>>96559552I got mine from laserforge, but I know he licensed it from Rizzenvoth's patreon. Check on weekends.
>>96559372Anon, I usually just appreciate people for doing stuff that they enjoy, but those models are genuinely cursed. They are not unsettling in a in character sense, they just look like temu marines some made off a verbal description of what a space marine looks like.
>>96559626i love them to bits moreso than any rendition of ceramite power armour gw has ever done themselves. they are truer space marines than any first party miniatures in my eyes on the front of an occulted platonic reality about these fucking awful, and i suspect very real thingspig in shit and happy to be here <3
Just in time for a game
>>96559644Take meds
>>96559544i read it as him mid trying to catch his fall
>>96559596Cheers
how popular are the Raven Guard?
>>96559170>>96559174>>96559190>>96559225Stay mad. The best you'll ever be is second place.
>>96559795Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
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