>supposedly a human male fighter>is actually a half-elf paladin/draconic sorcerer noble
>dee en dee gay>dragon age double gay
Did you miss /v/ or what?
>>96551885Did the trannies in bioware retcon him or something? He was just a bastard as far as i remember
>>96551885Half-elves can't be paladin.Can they?
>>96552002Yes, you are gay.
>>96552029The fuck are you talking?
>>96551885Yeah. The whole having dragon blood thing was quite the surprise.
>>96552109She's a whore who sucked divine cock for her powers!
>>96552016He was always the son of an elf, in one of the novels iirc.
>>96552016He's super special in the comics and novels.
>>96552155What about traditional games? Is he in those?
Oh right, Flemeth was Andraste all along by the way.Actual spoiler.
>>96552170There was a dragon age ttrpg. So yes.
>>96552172I mean, that's not really confirmed.You can certainly make that inference, and makes a lot of sense too, but I'm pretty sure it's not really spelled out.
>>96552153>>96552155>novels&comics aka fat fems comicsget out of here
>>96552149She actually sucked only elf cock
>>96552172Who?
>>96552194>fanficsfix
>>96552172>>96552193>Guys, we gotta make Tevinter do something super evil again because we accidentally wrote something justifying them. Again. Again.
>>96551885How do I build Alistair?
>>96552149She not your mom, dumbass.
>>96551885half-elves are mechanically indistinct from humanspaladin is a prestige class for fightersthe dragon thing only qualifies him for feats he doesn’t have, he doesn’t get any spells from it
>>96551885>Male human fighter fag spouts off his persecution complex on the wrong board
>>96551885Herf derf fagitz get off muh vidya
>>96551885>gets executed anyway
>>96552172She wasn't Andraste was another host of shard of Mythal. Essentially two unrelated women, hearing the same voice in their heads and drawing different conclusions.It's not really as much of an asspull as it seems. Elven gods, all the way back to DAO trace their lineage to the sun and Chantry has a shitton of solar imagery. Most likely answer is that memories of Mythal imparted on Andraste whatever beliefs primordial elves (which are themselves spirits of the Fade embodied) had about their own creation, thus leading to the cult of the Maker.
>>96551885>supposedly a vagrant human male fighter>is actually a time traveling demon blooded fighter from a noble lineage
>>96555166I hate when this happens. WTF, DM?!
>>96551885Hate when characters are supposed to be more interesting because of what they are as opposed to who.
>>96555159>Drop the "Solas is creating a secret army of elves to race war the humans" angle in favor making him a #LoneWolf because fighting oppressed people is icky>Make the entire plot of Veilguard retroactively justify the oppression of elves because fucking elves are responsible for seemingly everything bad that has ever happened in history, from the blight to the fucking fade demons, except for the parts which were specifically humans fucking over other humans>Except also those don't get to just be humans' fault, they were getting manipulated by le shadowy cabal that didn't exist until this game>No, that one-off fucking wartable mission in Inquisition doesn't count as establishing this faction existing. Fuck off.>Also Tevinter is le wholesome now, despite previously being established as the world capital of racism with a side of transphobia>For some reason the fucking Black Divine is DA Batman>I could go onIt's all so fucking tiresome. I'm considering running a DA campaign with my buds just to rewrite everything Veilguard fucked up, but I don't think that will really make me feel better.Still, anybody got any recs for shit to do for a post-Inquisition campaign? I'm willing to incorporate a lot of the Inquisition lore, it's specifically Veilguard that I want to pretend doesn't exist.
>>96551885Well, for starters, isn't he a templar? So he's not a fighter. So... you apparently only have yourself to blame for all your misunderstandings.
>>96559211You also forgot how Southern Thedas was apparently obliterated off screen.Yeah Veilguard dropped the ball tremendously. I was only defending that Andraste plot point, since it's clear they were planning it from at least DA2, as that's where all the connections and visual clues started piling up. That's the most frustrating thing about it - some of its lore is clear continuation of stuff set up in earlier games, like for example how Old Gods used to be Evanuris thralls makes sense and fits with Corypheus' Dragon and Guardian of Mythal from DAI. At the same time, anything that was produced specifically for Veilguard and its general plot is so utterly dogshit.
Shy would you ever get invested in DA lore? It's the most generic totally-not-forgotten-realms entry level basic bitch fantasy world I can think of. Do you run sessions set in Raid: Shadow Legends too?
>>96551885This is why you shouldn't pay any attention past DAO.
>>96551885>anything past origins
>>96559211>thousands of years ago, the elven elite fucked up>so now, thousands of years later, i am justified in putting totally unrelated commoner elves in a ghetto and treat them like shitHow exactly does this make sense again? Sounds pretty fucking evil to me, to blame these modern elven people.
>>96560258>>96560263DA2 is series peak, despite its obvious flaws. It's rare to see vidya RPGs set around a single city and have story take place over many years.Rivalry/Friendship was perfect solution to the age old Bioware problem of having to feed into companion's bullshit to finish their personal quests.Aesthetics were also great despite the dated engine. From the city to the loading screens. Qunari and elf designs have only gone downhill from there.
>>96560332umm elves are white coded so it's morally correct to oppress and kill them sweaty
>>96560360>makes Anders a gay terrorist possessed by the dead guy from Amaranthine
>>96560360>DA2 is series peakit was a downfallit all started thereI couldn't even end this garbage full of subverted tropes with all the woke "literally who?" characters and i still don't even remember who or what was this shit all aboutat least Origins had those old timers you could see everywhere: dorf being a dorf, elf being an elf, knight being a knight - you know, generic fantasy, generic plot and it worked>but muh Qunari got horns!Aesthetics, graphics, gameplay.. it was all shit, it got worser than the originswhoever made those decesions should've never been hired - he should've been fired but they are still keep making those woke sequels and spit on the first game
Just look who works there - bunch of fetishistsStarting with the concept art it's all rotten
>>96551885Video games have their own board.
>>96560375trvthnvke
>>96560569End your life posthaste, threadshitter.
>>96560360It was a good spin-off. I wouldn't say that it was better than DAO because it was pretty different, much more chamber. I still liked the aesthetics.
>>96559211>>96560332 is right, let's make things fair>Make the entire plot of Veilguard retroactively justify the oppression of mages because fucking mages are responsible for seemingly everything bad that has ever happened in history, from the blight to the fucking fade demons, except for the parts which were specifically humans fucking over other humans
>>96560360>Rivalry/Friendship was perfect solution to the age old Bioware problem of having to feed into companion's bullshit to finish their personal quests.No it wasn't because if you were in the limbo of not kissing their ass or shitting on them constantly you couldn't progress
>>96551885>>>/vrpg/ is that way
>>96560569Good luck finding anyone talking about video games over there.
>>96559211I'm perfectly fine with not treating Tevinter as the designated evil faction.>>96560198Excuse me, it's totally-not-Warhammer-Fantasy.
>>96551885is actually dead because like hell am I gonna let a claimant to my throne live. This Realm has two important people. Me and my Dog.
>>96563224Umm, based department? Yeah, we got another one here.
Korgan >>>> Oghren >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Varric
>>96563340This, but in reverse (which is the most correct fact).
>>96563389>factlibcoded as the whole bioware
>>96560198>totally-not-forgotten-realmsDA is closer to Warhammer or The Witcher, because it has actual nations, states and some coherent/historical structure of societies, not just random cities to spawn adventurers from one thousand different races and subraces.
>>96561624Oppressing mages has always, unfortunately, been correct.Even good-natured, highly skilled mages are at risk of randomly being attacked and possessed by a demon and turned into an Abomination at basically any time. There has to always be someone nearby who's trained specifically to fight and kill a mage who gets possessed, because otherwise they'll blow up a city or something.
>>96564419>highly skilled mages are at risk of randomly being attacked and possessed by a demon and turned into an Abomination at basically any time.Wrong. Mages who have passed the test have an extremely lower risk of possession than regular non-trained mages. Maybe you ought to blame the power-mad templars and Chantry who abuse them?
>>96564818>extremely lower risk of possessionSo, there's still a non-zero risk. Glad we agree.Plus, that's not even considering the risk of a powerful mage randomly going nuts regular style and deciding to blow up a city. That's still a thing that can happen, no possession needed.>power-mad templars and Chantry who abuse them?Also worth talking about. As we see in DA2, the abuses of the Templars directly contribute to making the mages more prone to possession and general blood magic nonsense. An even hand is needed, not an iron fist.And, again, that's not even considering the fact that it would be wrong to abuse people under your care even if there was no risk of them getting possessed and they couldn't shoot fire out of their hands.
>>96552016His Human bloodline is descendant from a Great Dragon / Great Wyrm. His mother is an elven mage.
>>96564914>So, there's still a non-zero risk. Glad we agree.What is the risk of someone going berserk and trying to kill you? It seems in DA that it's about the same rate.
>>96559211>Make the entire plot of Veilguard retroactively justify the oppression of elves because fucking elves are responsible for seemingly everything bad that has ever happened in historyThis part is hilarious though. You sound like an elf apologist.
>>96563224If you marry Anora though, isn't she barren? How will you continue your bloodline?
>>96564419In point of fact, as Inquisition shows, if you are made Tranquil and then restored, you are thereafter immune or resistant to possession, it's why the Seekers couldn't be easily taken as abominations unless it was red lyrium.
>>96566399Idk if it's ever discussed but there must be some side effect, like losing access to magic? Otherwise why wouldn't the early Chantry, Original Inquisition or even Tevinter just employ it as a standard precaution for every mage? >>96565324An average human, even in modern day when firearms exist, usually has fairly limited ability to cause destruction. Even not counting demonic possession, an average mage can cause all sorts of havoc and they can hardly be disarmed. Not to mention that even "sane" blood magic can be used for mind control and brainwashing. Circles were overall a decent enough system as long as mage and templar leaders were able to cooperate and treat each others as equal. Definietely better than what was going on in Tevinter and what the fuck Qunari were doing.
>>96567093>Circles were overall a decent enough system as long as mage and templar leaders were able to cooperate and treat each others as equal.This. The ideal system involves some degree of mages self-policing and directly cooperating with Templars to keep order, and at the same time the Templars need to treat mages as people. It’s a tightrope, to be sure, but places like the Fereldan circle seemed to manage it.At least one mage randomly went all blood magey, got possessed because he bit off more than he could chew, and all hell broke loose.
>>96567710*At least until
