>GM / Player / Setting / System / Monster sets out to "subvert your expectations"
>>96566492>Le moster is called [common monster name here] but he doesn't actually look or behave anything like [common monster name here]. We are so original and cool.
>>96566513I think you're actually just stupid.
>>96566492Is this the pet peeve thread?>anything with multiverse bullshitYou either have to learn the lore of 20 different settings, everything is random bullshit or it may as well be different countries on the same planet.>tracking ammo is boringTracking spell slots is boring, tracking HP is boring, tracking ability uses is boring, tracking health potions is boring, tracking XP is boring, tracking quests is boring. Let's just play improv at that point.
>>96566600>Let's just play improv at that point.Unironically yes. Then sprinkle in a couple more rules in to make the improv more fun and directed.
>>96566492>OP is a retarded faggot who complains about shit that never happened because TTRPGs require friends to play and OP doesn't have any.
>>96566492imagine being so buck broken by the last jedi that you have to keep bringing up subversion years later as some kind of plague
>>96566600>"Tracking things is boring!">"I'm going to keep playing D&D though instead of the literal dozens of alternative systems that AREN'T built around resource-attrition-based combat slogs.-95% of the people making bitching threads here.
>>96566600>You either have to learn the lore of 20 different settingsthats no different than having 20 different countries in your settingjust use it as an excuse to play dumb in character>Tracking spell slots is boring, tracking HP is boring, tracking ability uses is boring, tracking health potions is boring, tracking XP is boringjust dictate your actions and let the DM handle the actual trackingif you die, you die
>>96566492>OP meets expectations (0 games played)
>>96566600>tracking ammo is boringShit take. It's boring if it's not scarce.
>>96566638>nobody in the history of ever has ever tried to subvert someone's expectations
>>96566690society is literally built upon a cycle of subversionits what thesis, antithesis, synthesis literally isthe idea that we create ideas, subvert those ideas, then subvert the subversion is a feature not a bug
>>96566690OP wouldn't know. He just makes complain threads about fictional inconveniences he thinks he might have if his friends wern't imaginary.
>>96566699There is good subversion, and bad subversion.Good subversion takes the original and changes some aspect of it while still keeping it recognizable. This is everywhere, as you pointed out.>Orcs in this world are invaders from another planet instead of being nativeThen there's bad "subversion", which merely bait and switch for no benefit other than to feel clever. These aren't really the same.
>>96566492I don't plan for subversion, but every once in a while I roll for every noteworty NPC party interacted with for a chance (usually 1%) of betraying them. They can't see it coming when even I don't know it will happen.
>>96566637BORING
>>96566637>>>/qst/
>>96566492Name 7^7 /tg/ related things that do this.
>>96566492What happened OP? How did somebody in your group try to subvert your expectations? Surely something happened in a real game with real people that spurred you to make your thread.
