Yet Another Dwarf Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>96553432 >Thread Question:What would you like to see from the Dwarfen Mountain Holds in the future?
>TQNew slayer and doomseeker sculptsHigh King Balun Alriksson to commit to the current timelineOfficial dorf terrain like Ancestor statues and Grimnir shrines, maybe a Bugman's breweryAn eventual refresh of the entire extant range at some point
Update on the Ostermark rebasing project.
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I once dreamt that Warhammer Fantasy had a Tyranids-equivalent faction of Fish People.They were the original inhabitants of the World from before the Old Ones and were now rising from the seas in endless hordes reclaim it.Bit they weren't an overpowered, world ending threat, as their invasions always slowed down the more they reached inland.
>>96574090>TQThe dwarfs need some fluff interacting with new factions. It’s always humans, elves, greenskins, and skaven with these guys, how about they help the border princes against Settra or send an expedition to recover something from Cathay, or go fight Kralmaw? Frankly they’re just boring to me, kinda trope-y. Also slayer models but those are soft confirmed for a while now >>96574232>>96574235>>96574240these look great! what did you use to make the banner?>>96574253The Fimir are pretty close to this
>>96574273I painted the banner red and yellow and added Greenstuffworld heraldry decals
>>96574090>Yet another short thread
>>96574293It's a very clean banner, good job
>>96574090>What would you like to see from the Dwarfen Mountain Holds in the future?Personalities.
This thread now belongs to the beastmen!
>>96574326Thanks. Looking back I should have painted all the feathers and ribbons in burgundy and white. The red and blue touches look good on individual models but they make the whole a bit visually confusing.
Why the fuck does the thread smell like ammonia and feces?
>>96574090I'd really like to see a small hold, maybe a ranger one, that actually knocks off the last grudge from their clan book.
>>96574404Don't know, ask your peasant retinue
>>96574090>TQI want new Imperial Dwarf models; new plastic minis that will finally replace the 1980's dorfs (picrel), with additional weapon options, as well as new units such as a Brewmaster character.Also, bring back Prince Ulther's Company, even as an online-only MTO purchase.
>>96574471>bring back Prince Ulther's Company, even as an online-only MTO purchase.They did anon you just missed the MTO of it
>>96574090>TQNew slayers first and foremostKits for the priests of grimnir that are allegedly getting rules in the newest journalDwarf terrain, nothing crazy, but some dwarfen waystones, statues, and maybe a mine would be cool
>>96574754well... they should bring it back.I mean, why even have dedicated rules for models that you can't purchase anymore?
>>96574864I fucking hate people like you
How would you make a 1.5k or 2k forest goblin army?
>>96574324Oh, how I want there to be a refresh of elves. But after seeing what happened to wyches in 40k I'm not sure I want to see new witch elves.
>>96574861Do Dwarfs even build waystones or big Runestones outside of the Norse Dwarfs?
>>96574878Hate all you want, but I know I'm right.Why the fuck did GW went through all the effort of digging up 38 year-old molds, give them newer plastic shields & shield crests, make new banner artwork(& variations), and on to of that write rules for the newest edition?Why go through all of this (plus announcing on a couple of community articles) only to be time-limited and never to return? eh? Is it to instill a deep FOMO feeling? not to mention the exorbitant prices GW was asking for them
I HAD ENOUGH WHY CAN'T YOU MIX WoC AND DAEMONS IN AN ARMY I JUST WANNA GOON WITH A SLAANESH LIST IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK????
>>96575169probably because they don't expect to make any money from this product as a mainline thing while they did probably repay their effort many times over with the limited run, not to mention inducing fomo into further purchasesyou should just check recasters, man
>>96574987Yeah they do, I don’t believe they made as many as the elves did for the geomantic web, but they have their own. Picrel was an old terrain tutorial on how to make one.I would also like to add a brewery. Would be cool to see a manor-esque kit, maybe not as big.
>>96575246A Manor Esque kit for each faction would be great but is something that GW would never do
>>96575240It's probably going to be an AoI down the line will probably come when we get plastic Demons of the Ruinstorm for HH
>>96575240My gf (female(goth)) is starting a WoC army and I was also weirded out by this. If you aren't playing with fags you can easily just slap a Bloodthirster or whatever into your WoC list.
>>96575246>>96575266>>96574987Realize I forgot picrel, but this was made using the tutorial I remamber seeing back in the day. I'm almost certain it was official.
>>96575277Sigmar willing we will have it by 2035, great>>96575282My rabbi(alien(reptile)) forbids me from fucking with lists unfortunately
>>96574090>TQ-A rejection of modernity, with a return to 20mm bases for dwarfs alone.-A complete range overhaul with 90% of the currently available sculpts being replaced by the old metal models we used to have. the models themselves can be made of plastic, I just want those old sculpts back.-Dwarf grenadiers, with cartoony round bombs.- Dwarfs with spears, alberds, pikes and other types of polearms -A dwarf phalanx formation-A dwarf testudo formation -Dwarf handguns with bayonets -Dwarf bayonets with handguns-Hot Air balloon and zeppelins (they always looked more dwarfy to me than gyrocopters also FUCK cathay)-Miners to actually come out from underground from anywhere on the battlefield- more mining technology, we might not get a steam tank, but we should get some sort of drilling machine - A real chance at shutting down enemy magic
>>96574090>Dwarfen Mountain Holds in the future?Thunder Barge.
>>96575654>A real chance at shutting down enemy magicI might be imagining it, but didn't dwarves used to be able to buy one use runes a rune Smith could use to cancel a spell?
>>96571375In TWW muh secondary your goal in the Jade Dragon campaign is literally to hijack the geomantic web in Lustria. If you add the stories about Lizard's typhoons and earthquakes on Cathay they are almost already at war.
>>96574090>What would you like to see from the Dwarfen Mountain Holds in the future?Cannon getting d3+1 wounds>>96575977Yes and they still can. It's called rune of spellbreaking, 25pts a pop. I have no idea what that anon is talking about. Dwarfs excel at cancelling magic. Good luck getting spells on a unit embedded with a runelord with master rune of balance.,
>>96576159Dwarfs were able at some point to basically stop pretty much any spell that wasn't cast with IF.The best was when in 8th edition they were still using the old book.They're still good, but they're nowhere as oppressive as they once were.
>>96574090>>Thread Question:>What would you like to see from the Dwarfen Mountain Holds in the future?their unreleased plastic stank plastic slayers/doomseekersredone warriors/minersredone thunderers/rangers
>>96574232Summon the Elector Counts!!!Beautiful army anon
>>96576212Which is good, outright blocking one phase of the game is not very fun.
>>96576533They don't get magic so it's fair.
>>96576212I remember playing tomb kings during this point. I ran 3 cheap priests and flooded the board with the one die casts forcing the dwarves to run out of dispel dice. Pretty sure I got a couple grudges for that.
Having a 2v2 bout of 6th edition, hope all goes well.
>>96576897I think that's a fair play, I certainly wouldn't have held it against you' you have to work with the tools you're given, and as long as your army was painted I wouldn't care too much about the game itself.Although sometimes I used to be a little shit, i knew my opponent would expect a huge anti-magic component and so he'd likely write a list with no wizards in an attempt of having me "waste" points on dispel runes and runesmiths. But I would then gamble on it and show up with absolutely no magic protection and an extra bolt thrower or 4.>>96576533It makes sense from a mechanical and gameplay perspective.All armies had, during the magic phase, a more or less effective sword, while dwarfs were given a shield and told to fuck off.>>96576669I really do think that at the time it could have been done differently, and to this day the lack of magic (and cavalry) really hurts dwarfs. Not being able to cast any hexes or augments is quite the handicap.But I love my dwarfs specifically because of no magic; also I don't play TOW so maybe there's some form of magic (Anvil, maybe?) that I'm not aware of.>>96577015Good luck, have fun and take pictures! We're starting an 8th edition campaign next week with the first game being a low point scenario of 2 armies having to build bridges and cross a river and 2 armies defending said passage.For some reason I'm more excited for this game than I used to be back in the day.
>>96574213>new slayer sculptsyou can still find avatars of war plastic slayers kit (called seekers i think). its pretty good. comes with mostly dual wielding, but also i think 5 great weapons per box of 20. arms attach at the shoulders via flat joints, hands attack via flat joints, torso attaches to the waist via flat joint. heads are ball joints, mohawks are separate pieces. very customizable. also comes with full command, and is cheaper than most warhammer boxes by like half (last i checked it was about $40 for 20 figs)
Realistically speaking, what exactly can the Renegade rules do to fix Skaven? I can see the other legacy factions get fixed with some points cost adjustments and subtle statline buffs, but I don't see that being enough to fix Skaven.
>>96574953elves have the best looking models in the fb range
Warhammer community article confirms that the Jade-Blooded do exist, and even mentions Hekate(Harakhte) being referenced in "certain novels". This begs the question,what sources mentions this vampire? (on a BL novel, or even in WRPG books)?
Do you feel bad for humans in Warhammer Fantasy? Chaos x 4, Skaven, Greenskins, Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Dark Elves, Ogres, Beastmen, and more. Just having a single race of baddies is already more than enough to deal with. You could make a fantasy novel series with just one, even strong and competent heroes would be exhausted trying to keep up with the nonstop waves of murder and madness.
>>96577601Humans make up chaoshumans make up vampire countshumans make up beastmen in a half breed kinda way ogres are pretty much humans so no not really.
>>96577541Jade-blooded I think, are only mentioned in a cut piece of a WFRP book that was later published on the writer's website.>https://pdfcoffee.com/whfrp-2-lost-bloodlines-pdf-free.htmlI can't think of any BL books that have them mentioned, though we have had Vampires that did live in the far east appear in some books, those were Von Carstein's pic as an example.The only official source so far is TWW, which references them with items and a Special Building in Cathay.
>>96577601Not at all. They have impeccable drip, they live in a society with zero niggers or hispanics (prior to nuGW's TOW slop)
>>96576249>their unreleasd plastic tankYou know damn well this would cause unparalleled grognard seething
>>96577609Estallia
>>96577605Maybe elves are justified in hating humans. Weren't things more peaceful when they were kings of the world, before they lost most of the land they conquered?
Fantasy 6th edThe old worldWarmasterAge of shitmarWhich one is the superior game and why?
>>96577647The one that isnt made by gw
>>96577658So Warmaster then
>>96577601Not really. A lot of the problems could be dealt with if humans took a moment from their own pointless squabbles.
Averland = best land
>>96577647Tow and aos because you'll actually get to play gameThat being said I wish warmaster was nore popular, might try and get it off the ground ar mt lgs
>>96577714Jesus my post got all fucked up that's what I get for posting so late
Fought a 1k Command and Control game.Korgoth and his blood legion faced off against an Ogre horde, both having ransacked half of a great village only to meet at a tower.The Mournfang annihilated their left flank and the marauders torn apart by the Ogre bruiser and iron breakers. Despite a flank charge against his Chosen Knights, Korgoth held and slew the Bruiser in a challenge.After being flank charged, Korgoth and his lone champ won the combat after a challemge, one breaking, the other fleeing, running down the Ogre Bulls.The Mournfang were out of position and Korgoth claimed the tower. VICTORY FOR THE BLOOD GOD! I still keep buggering up my deployment
>>96575291I remember this article from GW website. If those are yours, great job anon.
>>96575169>Is it to instill a deep FOMO feeling?Unironically yes. They want you to develop MTG style purchasing practices. Three year rotations and all.
>>96577601So many enemies, yet the Empire always wins on all fronts.
>>96577930Empire Chads, post models
>>96577285Love these chunky fuckers. They're a kitbasher's dream Here's how I did mine (old picture), sporting all sorts of weapons. I even managed to rank them up on 20mm
>>96577601Honestly, Mullus is legitimately fucking massive so 75% of humans will barely if ever actually deal with that stuff
>>96577601>Do you feel bad for humans in Warhammer FantasyNo, because they have hot anime dragon waifus and elven thots.
are dark elves missing anything from their legacy options?
>>96579199as far as "normal" units, no. none of their characters exist though and neither do their options from old editions like taking some demon/chaos units. very much playable. take some dark riders though or you will regret it.
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>>96575654>remove all of the dwarves current design choices>replace it with random garbage
>>96576212I havent played 8th but wasn't magic in that edition really powerful like a game could be decided by a single spell?
I made a meme.
>>96577686it's our land man-filth
>>96574369Looks like the furry invasion failed.
>>96577647Age of Sigmar and The old world
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>>96577686>Averland>not Hochland>>96579798Literally prey for Hochland hunters.>>96578040I'm on a break from painting my Hochland army until I'm done with my MESBG army is done (probably next week), but I'll share progress photos once I pick them up again.
>>96580035>I'm done with my MESBG army is doneReminder to have a good night's rest anons
>>96577611I don't care, it would help the mobility problems of the army, provide a centerpiece, and visually accompany the design of the coptersgrognards and fake grognards are free to dig back up the dwarf juggernaut
>>96579411interesting that they have been against adding Jiangshi since the 2000s but they still wanted a Far East/China bloodline
>>96578468Is it that much bigger than our world? I guess they don't really have much of a pacific to cover like 25% of the globe.
Got 4 TG done so far
>>96580464It’s about twice the size of our earth and it’s fucking retarded
>>96580470Really nice paintjob and bases.
>Be guy running Expeditionary Force>Get pretty good (comparatively) because I play pretty much every week, only really getting beaten by people who have been around since fantasy>Playing against Cathay player with 5 games under his belt>Put 20% of my points in miners, take only 1 cannon, and no rangers in order to hopefully nerf myself enough so that it's a good game but not so much that I get destroyed by his artillery pieces>Despite giving him advice where I could absolutely bodied him due to the gap in experience and dice rolls being on my side>Nice guy, but could tell he was a bit miffed about not getting to do muchExforce is my favorite playstyle, but do other factions have to deal with this? I keep trying to nerf my list enough not to blast new opponents off the board before they can do anything, but not so much that I get run down immediately. I am trying to build towards a Royal Clans list to fall back on for more casual games when I'm not facing a competitive dickhead like myself.>Also, my buddy is trying out Skaven tomorrow, is taking out all artillery pieces, replacing my fireball thane with a melee one, running only one gyro, and putting the points I save into warriors and miners enough? I know Skaven isn't doing great
>>96580470looking clean but not batch painting is a red flag
>>96580549nta, a red flag for wat?
>>96580464The pacific equivalent should still be massive, it's just cut off every map.It's actually present on the map in the 3e rulebook (I think) but an insert map of the old world is covering it up.Also the 6e WD map famously has an arrow pointing to fabled Lumbria, implying that in theory it's not the whole map.
>>96580517>>96580549Much appreciated anons. I'm in no hurry to finish these guys so I'm taking my time. I'll definitely be batch painting the shitty skellies when I get to them though.
>>96580470Really like your minis, anon, good job. What's your recipe for the brown bandages?
Reading this and it's so absurd how fucking evil this guy is. The rulebooks don't do justice, and it's not even the MURDER KILL DEATH evil, it's malicious, cold and cruel, beyond any of the other guds followers. Yet he hides it all behind a foppish, loving friend. I love him
>>96580950Sigvald is pretty cool, this is true. He's my favourite out of all the chaos named characters. He even got a pretty cool model. I'd like to use him in a game some day, but he doesn't fit in with the rest of my army. Shame. I need to strip & repaint him, I really fucked up his face.
>>96580532Sadly dwarfs are not fun to play against in general and you cannot nerf yourself hard enough to make current skaven have a fair fight.
>>96580975I dunno, your Sigvald looks fine as far as I am concerned, looks psychotic in his face. Which is fitting. Plus, in general he isn't meant to "fit" into the normal aesthetic of chaos, so plop him in and make him enjoy the glories of war! Small spoiler>Sigvald given a quest to get a talon of Galrauch . >finds the cave>meets a crippled man who promises to help if Sigvald agrees to set him free>helps Sigvald>Sigvalf sets him free by stabbing him through the heart
All special characters exist only as historic curio as well as to brighten the day of naturaly grumpy dwarf players that can overshadow their super special magical items with runes.
>>96581020nah, special characters exist for 2 reasons>make models that deviate from the generic archetype of the armylist>make models that set the boundaries for the faction's hierarchiesneedless to say, oddball characters are both more interesting miniatures and more interesting rules, since they can help freshen an armylist by providing an alternative keystone to structure it, but upper level characters also have a healthy role in the ecosystem of a faction
>>96574090What makes the dwarves in Fantasy cool and fun, while the dwarves in 40k are total ass? I mean, even the old school Squats had more rizz than the Leagues of Votann do now.
>>96581077One has beards. Thats about it. I dont particularly care for most dwarves in the warhammer settings but you cant just have beardless dwarves, especially for men. Also votann are just space marines, just like eldar. so it kinda gross.
>>96581077the dwarfs in fantasy are allowed to be their own thing, while the dwarfs in 40k are forced to be space marines (short)
>>96574090I'm interested in warhammer fantasy. Is fantasy subjected to GW greed much as 40k? Are Vampire Counts beginner friendly army?
>>96581192>I'm interested in warhammer fantasy. Is fantasy subjected to GW greed much as 40k? yes, less in some areas, more in others, but still yes>Are Vampire Counts beginner friendly army?not really, they're currently not as supported as the main core factions, so it's akin to playing an army with legend rules in 40k, but a lot of their range is still up and running via aos or has good alternative third party kits or models, so it's not hard to make an army
>>96581077They didnt make them this
>>96581226That’s a different brand of Reddit. The kind that pierces their nose while weighing 300 pounds.
>>96581233Okay
any tips for trying to run a savage orc nomadic waaagh army, is it even viable or am I gimping myself too much?
>>96580975>Why so serious?!
>>96581258I don't see it as gimping, it'd just be cavalry focus. Savage Orcs are fun, they can just be baited easily.
>>96581077>leagues of votann>admech>primarisJes Goodwin is like the grim reaper in that meme. Anyway, here's what we should have gotten.
>>96580532>Playing against Cathay player with 5 games under his belt>Put 20% of my points in miners, take only 1 cannon, and no rangers in order to hopefully nerf myself enough so that it's a good game but not so much that I get destroyed by his artillery piecesAnon you're not supposed to tailor your list to be more effective against the sp3cific army you're facing. That's peak WAACfaggotry
>>96581233My dude, nose piercings have been a warhammer dwarf thing since the 80s. Look at the OP image, two of them have nose rings.
>>96580941I'm happy to hear that! I've been putting off my TKs for far too long, only have these guys and a scorpion finished. The bandages are really simple, dryad bark washed with black edge highlighted with gorthor brown and karak stone.
>>96581219Thanks
>>96579620I like it
>>96581192the battalion boxes make fantasy a lot cheaper (even in comparison to their 40k equivalent the combat patrol boxes) but vamps as a legacy faction don't have one. i wouldn't start with them
>>96582104They do.
>>96582177an "official" one, you know what i mean
>>96582215The official ones would be kinda dogshit. the only real kits that are worth buying are maybe the old zombies, the rest of everything else is a pain to hobby with and has made me want to quit more times than I wish to admit.
>>96577686That's not McDonalds la- I mean Talabecland.
>>96582177Wouldn't that more suit the TK due to the inclusion of Chariots?
>>96582274nta, but I'm relatively sure the chariots are optional and you can build 8 extra knights out of the kit instead
>>96582274Could probably turn them into corpse carts with some creativity
>using third party modelsholy yikeroni
>>96582310fuck off, perryfag
>>96582318Think before you post.
>>96582310I will use the WGA spiders and I will like them
>>96582323fuck off perry... the falseflagger?
>>96582333I'm running about using them with some Perry gothic knights for Demigriphs.
>>96582177WGA skellies are a bit bobble headed. But I've seen people to skull swaps with the GW box of skulls.
>>96582386Never understood what the hell was going on with Grave Guard proportions.
>>96581583>The bandages are really simple, dryad bark washed with black edge highlighted with gorthor brown and karak stone.Tried it myself, while not as good as yours it does look nice to have some variety for straps and bandages on the models.
Salute, Generals. Here's my Doomseeker.Doomseeker, Master Rune of Alaric the Mad, Rune of Wrath, Rune of the Hateful - 140
>>96582787I like these axes, good work anon !
>>96582393older people were shorter
>>96582776That is noticeably brighter than my bandages, yeah, Dryad bark should essentially be your midtone if you want it dark like mine
Greenskin/Chorf players: Which magical banner do you usually give your Black Orcs? Seems like they have a lot of good options.
>>96577714Don't you have wargaming friends? If your friends get in to it you will have as many games as you want.
>>96579834But the AOS introduced factions are gay, and the ones that survived are gayer than before except lizardmen and skavens who are always cool.
>>96577647The inconvenient truth is that the "best" game to play is whichever one has players at your LGS
>>96583106If your only option for playing any mini game is with the rejected souls haunting a LGS (or a gw proper) then don't even bother desu.
new plastic treekin just dropped
>>96583292Ents. Conquest minis are larger.I feel like the core troops would fot treekin well.
>>96583292and a new plastic skeles option
>>96583343Wish they were sold outside of the packs I only like a few themes inside them but they are all mixed together.
>>96581005Unfortunate. I have tried to make it a bit more interactive, working on more gyros, miners, and carts.>>96581491I think you may have misunderstood- I made my list worse than I would against an experienced and/or competitive player in order to even the playing field. If I was playing to win I would have taken a huge block of Thunderers and Rangers, more artillery, and an engineer sapper with rune of accuracy and concussive force to force stupidity rolls.I can sometimes use miners to punish mistakes and for movement, but normally they end up being a points sink. At least for me.
Where is the iconic pirating destination for players keen on becoming King of the Pirates? I know about Sartosa and I know about Port Reaver, but where does pirating occur? I didn’t think there were any major shipping lanes between the Old World and Lustria.
>>96583668major shipping routes are along the coasts of the old world and back and forth to araby and ulthuan, so you definitely want to control sartosa
>>96583668Apart from Sartosa I guess it would be the Black Gulf around the Boarder Princes.
>>96583668Porto Royale also has a lot of pirates
>>96574090I played against an Empire player and they kept referring to their generals griffon as a "her". Am I crazy to think this person 100% wants to fuck that griffon?
>>96584128empire players are generally mentally unwell in some capacity so I would not put it past them.
>>96584128My arachnaroks are "her"s and yes I do want to fuck them
>>96584128I have a 3d printed slaanesh themed beastwomen army, but I don't want to fuck em. I'm good with them fucking the enemy dudes that break and get rundown tho.
>like the “retro” Dwarf models>the Battalion box is full of themI just might do it. Am I ever gonna need so many Warriors or Quarrelers? Kind of want to see if I can turn some into characters if I do do it.
>>96584331It comes with more bits than you would ever need, so its pretty easy to give some guys pistols and say its an engineer, or put a guy on a tactical rock with a handgun and beer and say it is a Thane. I mixed and matched bits with the engineer, cannon/organ gun, mini of the month Votann models, etc. to make most of my characters, but I probably could have gotten away with using the box only desu
>>96584372>>96584331Miners box, not engineers. I also bought the runesmith box and gave it pistol, which I regret, but now use it as a Thane and my actual Thane model as a Runesmith because they have the appropriate loadout.
>>96581516Explains why I don’t like dwarves
>>96584331its okay, though those kits have colossal gaps and mould slips if thats something that bothers you. like, mould slips large enough that it actually looks like a separate armor plate at first. i dont know if they were always that bad or if the moulds have deteriorated and those are recent injections of the old molds that are falling apart, but the quality is definitely not up to what i would consider GW standard.