anyone play its 1st edition? any interest or excitement for the new edition? can anybody explain how japanese compression rifles work to me?
>>96577750Sorry anon you're banished off to >>>/awg/
>>96577750I only got to play a couple of games with a mate's army but I liked it enough I began planning a Star Wars conversion of it(I don't care for the kind of "game'y" faggotry you see in modern GW and SW Legion) before life got in the way, but from what I've read about 2nd edition I'm not particularly enticed. Seems like they've changed it from a Weird War 2 game to a WEIRD War game(nothing 2nd'y about this here nosirreebob, can't have anything that's heckin problematicarino in our product or that'd be a big ol' yikes).I don't reward people who sanitise their product out of cowardice or political poofery.
>>96577778K47 deserves its own thread and will have its own soon enough>>96577789The US kicked the soviets out of the allies for being godless commies, and you're blackpilling?
>>96578017The Germans got rid of the heckin evil Nazis and are run by a nice safe generic Secret Magic Cult now. They've also significantly de-emphasised the actual WW2 historical aspect of armies in-practice by basing the game balance and army selection around the idea you'll be almost exclusively using Rift units, again presumably because they don't want anyone collecting anything heckin' unpleasant.Fuck them, I want to fight SS Werewolves and Gestapo Necromancers leading proper Wermacht because I like being the hero who fights the baddies, and the baddies of WW2 and WierdW2 games are the goddamn motherfuckin' Nazis, not Vaguely Germanic Antagonists.The overemphasis of Rift units also smacks of GW-ification; they want you buying whole armies from them, not using cheap historicals for 90% of your army. Well then fuck 'em, they get nothing at all from me.
>>96580136>; they want you buying whole armies from them, not using cheap historicals for 90% of your army.You still can use your cheap army men. What the fuck is this weird schizo talk?
>>96580136>presumably because they don't want anyone collecting anything heckin' unpleasantYou've been posting this a lot and I notice you've never gave your reasoning why they're like that but also totally cool with selling SS models on the same website.
>>96580136>>96577789Something that bothers me about the "Axis" faction: Why are the UK/USA still fighting Germany?The Green Vault has killed Hitler, broke up the Nazi Party and the Waffen-SS, pushed the Allies out of Germany, formed a united superpower out of Central Europe, and wants to counter-attack the Soviets.Central Europe is too tough for the UK/USA to invade but Western Europe is mostly liberated and under Allied control. Everyone the Allies said they'd punish for committing atrocities has already been detained or killed.
>>96581031You are a funny man. Fighting Germany was never about nazism. That was just an excuse. Real problem was Germany rising as a new superpower and supplanting existing financial systems in Europe. No way Anglos would stand for that. In fact non-Nazi Germany is an even bigger threat to their control in Europe since you can actually ally with them without a good chunk of your population starting to grumble. Just look at how real WW2 ended with Americans fucking everyone in the ass for 80+ years. That's the real reason for the war.
>>96580918Because for some mad reason, Nazis in historical games are fine, but Nazis in historical *fiction* games is beyond the pale. Pay no attention to the Wolfenstein behind the curtain.
>>96581695>>96580918Oh and before (you) try and claim I'm just inventing that so I can be mad - I've seen it deployed multiple times by actual IRL and online Dangerhairs as their justification for trying to shit on previous Wierd War 2 game systems and settings. Remember these deranged loons consider depiction and endorsement to be synonyms, so in their minds anyone who could choose to play as Nazis in a fictional game can only be motivated by an actual deep personal love of Der Furer.
These kinds of discussions do make me want to pick up an Axis army and paint them up as the most Waffen-SS looking motherfuckers possible, with swastikas and little red armbands on everyone. Almost makes me wonder if Warlord did it on purpose.
>>96580586You *can* saw your own knob off with a rusty breadknife, the question is do you want to. Rift units piss on historical ones so thoroughly you have to be a legitimate masochist to take more than a couple, which are purely and solely useful as number-bulking disposable pawns you can try and briefly speedbump your enemy's Rift units with.My point stands: their sole objective here is to minimise the "W2" bit of Weird W2 as much as they can and that totally misses the point of why Weird W2 is fucking appeaing. It's like when they did that shitty retconned frankencombo of Wild West Exodus and Dystopian wars and tried to memoryhole all the Confederacy stuff.
>>96577750What's the pilot(?) model in the middle there?
>>96581031Because defeating and humbling Germany was their goal, it had nothing to do with Hitler.
>>96581695So what? You still gave no reason why you explicitly need literal Nazis in your fictional wargame and cant just pretend those green vault guys are gestapo or whatever you want them to be. Its your miniatures. Your lore for them. Paint little mustaches in their faces and little swastikas on their arms or tanks and you can have as many cloned hitlers in your army as you want. Why do you need Warlord Games to print those things for you in their books or onto their boxes?
>>96582750>Rift units piss on historical ones so thoroughlyWhich is what should happen if some super advanced laser tech troops in power armour arrive on a battlefield where regular guys with bolt action rifles are shooting each other. >My point stands>why Weird W2 is fucking appeaingThats exclusively YOUR point, thats correct. Yours, and yours alone. If you want WW2 armies with 1-2 weird units, you can do that with their rulebook. What else do you want? Everyone else has to play the game like YOU think it should be? Guess what, other people love weird units and want their armies to be full of them. Create your own Weird War 2 game, with limited weird units if YOU want to have it that way. >It's like when they did that shitty retconned frankencombo of Wild West Exodus and Dystopian wars and tried to memoryhole all the Confederacy stuff.>theyThose aren't made by Warlord GamesWho is >they
>>96581723I've also seen them use it as justification for going "erm yikes..." for people collecting regular historical armies. It's only under the radar because no one outside the scene pays any attention to them.
>>96577750>Hitler isn't even an angry brain in a jar in a giant spidermech that yells orders and werfs flammenMissed opportunity
An extremely reddit and s oy game, imo.Also, why is Morduan Glory shilling it so much anyways?
>>96581444>it totally wasn't because they invaded neighbours that were allied with BritainYou're not a serious person
>>96587007That guy gives me the ickWatching him drink coke on streamLooking at his sallow face, his eyes, and hair the same colourHis weird job of being a parasocialDo not want
>>96587005Hitler is problematic okay.
>>96587068Sure I don't rate his workBut make him a comicbook baddieAnd make it funIsn't that the point of weird ww2
>>96586569I explained it twice already you blind deaf dumb retard motherfucker: I want to fight the actual baddies of WW2 - fucking Nazis. And the reason I want Warlord to put them in the game is so that actually happens, because if they don't put them in the game subhuman shitstains like you will bully anyone who does try and bring Nazis with your>ubyuhwuhu why do you NEED heckin Nazis huh chuddoid?!?!! What are you some kinda FASHISHST?!?!!!faggotry. Goddamn I hope your death from AIDS lasts a long time and really hurts you.
>>96586575>who is theyJesus christ if you don't even have the IQ to grasp context from text just kill yourself now and save humanity the pain of having to listen to you try and gum out coherent thoughts. "They" are the people who published those games, you dumb cunt.And I don't want to make a WeirdW2 game, you poofter, I want the WeirdW2 game I already liked that already existed to continue to provide the experience it already did: WW2 with a few Weird things for fun, not the Faggot Cinematic Universe that you evidently find so appealing. And no, twat, you can't do that with their rulebook, because if the game frames the experience as Rift-forward then that's how everyone will play it, you absolute cretin. It's *possible* to play 10th Edition 40K as a fun narrative game with thematic fluff-based scenarios, but no cunt does because the game is *designed* to steer people towards transparent L-shaped ruinfests.
>>96582750>>96587005>>96587156>>96587176Fucking this. All I wanted was a WW2 game with a heavy Wolfenstein vibe, not this washed out reddit shit we got.
Achtung!
>>96587316I picked up the woldenstein boardgame from amazon for 100 leafdollars. Basic aim is to play 5core Essentials with various supernatural rules to make Commandos: Weird War. Going to bash in some werewolves. Main tricky part is figuring out how to make the allies seem cool enough.
>>96582750I was looking at using a 6 man veteran volksgrenadier squad with 2 lmgs since they ignore losing their nco and get extra shots with the lmgs, thought it was a pretty good fire base unit. Then I saw for a couple points more you could take a unit of stahltruppen with 2 lmgs and they’re immune to small arms fire. Same with my platoon commander, figured I’d keep him cheap and not put him in power armor. Except a regular platoon commander with an assault rifle is more expensive than a power armored one with an assault rifle. The weird war stuff really is just better in points cost than the bolt action stuff.
>>96588477Actually just checked the axis army list and it turns out I was wrong, the stahltrupppen with lmgs are cheaper than the volksgrenadiers.
>>96581695>Because for some mad reason, Nazis in historical games are fine, but Nazis in historical *fiction* games is beyond the pale.The reason for this is that historical nazis existed and are too major a component to remove, no matter how icky they are.Fiction doesn't need to include them and if they're an icky and unpleasant element, they will be removed.
>>96588624Clearly the way to go is like Stellaris. You make genocidal xenophobic cannibals, but (!) they are not Nazis.
>>96587005Who stops you from bringing such a miniature? This isn't 40k, you know? You can convert your own stuff and use minis from other manufacturers and games too.
>>96588477No way, a guy in power armour is more powerful than a guy without power armour. What a surprise.
>>96588741No shit, but why is he CHEAPER?
