Are you kidding? It's never been easier to maintain the Masquerade. You post a picture of a Nossie, everyone and their mother will tell you it's slop.

>>96586259
No matter how careful they are murdering white people, SOME vampires would get caught on camera. When there's a dead body the cops aren't going to say "Hmm, must be AI."

VtM 1E was also prety insistance the World of Darness was run for the benefit of vampires to the point that many skyscrapers had awnings at street level.
Engineered there by the controlling vampires to make feeding easier.

No doubt such a world also has vampire-missing cameras.

>>96586271
cops regularly get the easiest mark they can get and move on to get some condecoration. If ADN evidence or something comes up and turns out they gave some unrelated rando the death penalty there is no punishment or anything, they are expected to do whatever as long as it sounds plausible. Vampires don't sound plausible and you won't get that case in front of a jury.

>>96586271
No, instead the cops will go "obviously this was the Cartel, give us more tax money so we can buy a tank."

>>96586271
>When there's a dead body the cops aren't going to say "Hmm, must be AI."
Instead they're going to say "Hmm, it wasn't the husband that did it" and it goes unsolved forever.

>>96586249
He isn't wrong about modern tech giving a pretty big boost to some Cthulhu stuff

>Guys, we are gonna watch a Livestream of the King in Yellow.
Nyarlathotep would be a vTuber.
Just looking at Cthulhu can make you go insane and you better believe video footage of it is getting launched when he shows up.
Radio stations could play cursed hymns to mind fuck a population quick.

Honestly, just a massive amount of stuff is a cognitohazard in the lore, it would definitely play hell with how fast viral shit spreads.

As for vampires? They don't show up on any camera at all which is all it takes to be a mother fucker to pin down.

>>96586249
this >>96586259
You can even play with other aspects of things.
Blurry picture of a vamp? Nah, you have a shitty Android. Go buy an iPhone brokie.
Surveillance cameras are dogshit. Anybody working in security can tell you that. They're used in conjunction with other assets.
Plus no one would really care, they'd write it off as a typical computer glitch. in WoD, people are even more apathetic assholes than they are in the real world.

>>96586322
>Just looking at Cthulhu can make you go insane and you better be
If Cthulhu tries to return again he better hope there isn't a steam ship piloted by one drunk Norwegian to explode his melon and force him to hibernate for another million years.

Or the Deep Ones who bragged "we could wipe out all humanity if we wanted but we just don't want to". Meanwhile a single 1928 submarine shoots a couple of torpedoes into a reef and that forces them into hiding worldwide, lol. I should make a Cthulhu movie where it turns out the Old Ones are indeed creatures from another dimension, but they were the equivalent of retarded NEETS in their dimension and the locals just randomly teleported them to another world because they stink so much.

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Every woman is considered a tranny(THAT'S A MAN) until proven otherwise, and everything is considered slop until it's backed by evidence.

I don't think it's been an easier time to keep the masquerade. A nossie can walk down the street, and you can make it known on the internet, and the average libshit will decry it, calling you an AI-Jeet.

>>96586249
people just didn't know about stuff like ECHELON in 91

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>>96586249
After the 2000s, the Vampires made Epstein their manager.

>everyone doubting OP
Aliens have basically been confirmed, we now know bigfoots live underground and are a protected species, ghosts are slowly being confirmed, and we're currently strongarming "them" into admitting skinwalkers are real too. Vampires, if they were real, wouldn't stand a fucking chance at hiding for long.

>>96586417
Modern vampires don't have to do shit. The government elites bring the children to them by offloading them in the basements of pizzerias in secret.

>>96586271

However, the cops also wouldn't want to actually report on it, because they don't want to be seen as bigoted.

You're bigoted for believing that Vampires exist because Vampire is just a dog whistle to justify vigilante violence against immigrants and sexual minorities.

Done. There is a masquerade - except it's upheld by the most blatant gaslighting possible, which for some reason everyone seems to believe, or at least, are intimidated by corporate power into acting like they believe it.

>>96586249
Vamp obscuration works on cameras too, but the better question is why doesnt that tech just end all crime? In our own (somewhat less corrupt) world how many of them are even real, let alone in a useable colour and resolution, or even backed up enough for the footage to be recoverable? On the high end everyone who isnt already a vampire is either a cultist actively trying to end the world or to perpetuate it as a wizard prison. The SI does what it can but if they leaked all their secrets tomorrow all they have is street level shit and misinterpreted myths because they're fed poison from the top down.

If footage came out tomorrow that incontravertably showed a vampire regenerating from bullet wounds by draining a guy then maybe you would buy it, but would you then accept that they actually run the government and spend their free time fighting werewolves? If that were the case we would see evidence everywhere, right?

>>96586435
>he still thinks space is real

>>96586525
Vampires are real, and feeding is just part of their culture. We're jailing you for 30 days for saying "my blood, my choice."

>>96586435

>Believing the glowie psyops

They're consensus-farming to make a fake alien invasion seem plausible. Glowies effectively run nMage Seer Labyrinths.

>>96586271
>>96586298
Nonsense, they'll somehow chalk it up to global warming

>>96586525
>the most blatant gaslighting possible, which for some reason everyone seems to believe, or at least, are intimidated by corporate power into acting like they believe it
And now you know exactly what "vranyo" means.

>>96586249
In the 90s I went to a Vampire The Masquerade game that was really just a big Vampire LARP in a rented out mansion.
It was cool as shit but I fucked up by getting drunk.
>playing nossie
>make hand signal to tell everyone I was invisible
>eavesdropping
>"Dude we can see you."
>N-no you can't
>"Dude. Let me paint you a picture. The door opens, a floating beer walks in. The beer then floats on a chair and starts drinking itself."
>o-oh
Aside from that? Fun night. Best LARP experience of my life. Even the dudes hitting on Goth girls like "Oh my dark queen" was fun as fuck.

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>>96586525
>>You're bigoted for believing that Vampires exist because Vampire is just a dog whistle to justify vigilante violence against immigrants and sexual minorities.
>
>Done. There is a masquerade - except it's upheld by the most blatant gaslighting possible, which for some reason everyone seems to believe, or at least, are intimidated by corporate power into acting like they believe it.
I once read someone saying "WW has done everything - vampire, werewolves, mages, demons, beasts, wraiths, mummies, etc etc. There's nothing left."

But you make a good point. Imagine the free publicity if they issued a new book "Equality - The Masquerade".

>>96586249
They obviously CAN'T be famous peoples appearing in daylight or having important roles,
Postulating mind-control or hypnosis would make it make incredibly easy, they can always set up someone else or renew their ID, own fortune or take decision by manipulating the people who legally own them or through fake ID.
They could even make anyone accusing them suddenly admit "it was all a joke" in front of camera before hanging themselves.

Without those, now it does get harder and thus require the vampire to be secretly ruling countries for generations.
I bet that Donald would sell out for a Vampire "making a great deal".

>>96586259
>FPBP
Even without saying "muh AI-slop", the vampires have done a great job of pretending their kind are merely fantasy creatures that don't exist.
Making especially dumb movies about themselves, portraying themselves as the defeated villains so we let our guard down.
Maybe they aren't even pathetically vulnerable to sunlight.
Wearing fancy gothic costumes all the time make them harder to recognize going back to normal.

>>96586271
>SOME vampires would get caught on camera
Even today security camera don't have high resolution.

Let's imagine a top level Secret agent who noticed vampires and want to out them.
If he brings it up to his hierarchy, he'll need to at least lie about what he's really is after.
If he shows videos they'll still need to trust him a lot, that's where there's chance he'll discover part of his hierarchy include vampires.

Assuming the government isn't under control
You need proof like DNA, fingerprint or retina scan, and what if those don't work at all with vampire and are treated as mistakes?
If you kill a vampire and it turns into dust, you are left with no proof but dusty clothes.
If you record a vampire doing supernatural, you'd need a recording device that's considered trustworthy.

And to capture a vampire... their myths have plenty of method of escapes that would screw police.

>>96586925
The verisimilitude-shattering issue is asymmetry. It's like cops vs criminals. It's easy to get away with crimes if you're not retarded but all it takes is one mistake or one bit of bad luck and you're done. The criminal has to win every time while the cop has to win once.

Even with every advantage, one vampire will be in custody or viewing by multiple people who see him immolate in sunlight or committing whatever fucking vampire magic they have. "B-b-but it would be useless if a homeless man sees that happen!" Yeah, no shit. It would still happen and only have to happen once. If you magically made VtM "real" today, within 24 hours one of them would have fucked up.

god i miss cobes

>>96586435
you're so detached from what every day normal people think you probably believe what you just posted.

>>96586958

Do you have any idea how many people still make fun of "conspiracy theorists" even after the Epstein thing has been blown wide open?

People actively chose to disbelieve and ignore what they don't want to think exists in the world, regardless of how obviously and clearly confirmed and televised it is.

Then, have the people with a vested interest in keeping it *not* televised have supernatural powers to suppress the footage.

Combine that with the knowledge that governments keep a whole lot of bullshit stories on standby just in case something actually real that matters is happening, and so they flood the news with bullshit when something that matters happens that they don't want people to know about.

Okay, so some vamp fucks up in 24 hours, and undeniable proof is gained. It immediately gets drowned in a sea of irrelevant media and no-one cares because it's not socially acceptable to believe in vampires, and if you thought you saw real proof, no you didn't, it was just an elaborate hoax because people don't have anything better to do than to make fake vampire footage.

I don't understand - do people just have difficulty considering multiple factors at once? Do people just not know how the real media works? Do people just have no idea how little of the real shit that actually matters, that is actually documented, but they don't know about anyway?

>>96586958
>It's easy to get away with crimes if you're not retarded but all it takes is one mistake or one bit of bad luck and you're done. The criminal has to win every time while the cop has to win once.
Do you have any idea how many murders go unsolved forever?
>If you magically made VtM "real" today, within 24 hours one of them would have fucked up.
There's only like 100~ vampires per major metropolis. They'll be fine.

>>96587064
>There's only like 100~ vampires per major metropolis
There's a coterie per demense which can be as small as an appartment building, city block or park. A city of millions should have a blank population in the tens of thousands

>>96587088
lol no

>>96586271
So.... Why did you need to specify white people has victims?

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>>96587134
>lol no
Why are you wrong?
Read the book retard

>>96587234
none of that says what you said, retard

>>96587088
>>96587234
Just flatly wrong. Here is the officially published stat:
>A rough ratio of vampires to mortals has evolved in the last century. Many vampire princes enforce a limit of one vampire per 100,000 mortals
A city of 25 million people would have 250 vampires.

The numbers are riduclously, insanely smaller than you are representing.

>>96587266
It says exactly what i said about coterie sizes. Maybe if you had a more intelligent rebuttal than "no" i could give you a more specific answer

>>96587323
>Here is the officially published stat:
Published where? Ive never seen it in the book, and they've also officially published that the first fleet had 500 vampires on it (25% of the entire population) and that enough european werewolves crusaded in the 1800s to wipe out an entire continent's worth of indigenous woofs in australia.

Those official numbers even if true are contradictory in multiple ways- for one thinbloods arent counted in vampire censuses and they're excluded from cainite society in most cases, meaning their numbers are effectively unchecked beyond them being open season for anyone who wants to kill them. Same for anarch gangs opperating independently within a city or roving gangs of gangrels who come and go as they please. To quote the book, "even the best administered cities have entire regions not under the prince's control". And lets not ignore the fact that many cities are not under camarilla control at all. There are sabbat cities where central authority does not exist.

>>96586249
The Union covers up anything that breaks consensus. Which vampires very much are, so you have two layers. One the masquerade, and the union enforcing their consensus.

Just make the Vampires not show up in Camera like they do with mirrors or cause the cameras to distort or malfunction, also if you're throwing a Masquerade in 202x you're collecting phones at the door.

>>96587379
>Those official numbers even if true are contradictory
and there go the goalposts lol

>>96587379
Page 29 of the Revised edition. Open up your whatever-edition and just do a find on the number 100. It'll be in the first four or five entries for the number 100.

This is fact. It is base canon present in the core rules.

>>96587064
>Do you have any idea how many murders go unsolved forever?
Not the own you think it is. The overwhelming majority of unsolved murders are due to black-on-black violence. When you start killing relevant people or those outside of bad neighborhoods, the numbers shift dramatically. Hope you like the taste of fried chicken and watermelon, vampire scum, cause those're the only free eats you're getting.

>>96587399
it's like clockwork. Nobody on 4chan can just admit they're wrong when they get confronted with proof.

>>96587465
So now black people are criminal masterminds who never make any mistakes? You're retarded.

Why can't you just stop using V5 instead of trying to rationalize it?

>>96587399
>>96587469
I do understand the confusion. Shit-tons of people came into VtM through Bloodlines. That game tosses out vampires as non-stop canon-fodder goons, so I can see how they get the impression that cities have just ass-loads of them. Los Angeles would have had fewer than 100 vampires in the entire metropolitan area, in 2004, according to the rules.

>>96586249
more cameras makes it easier, not harder

>>96587470
No, dipshit. No one fucking cares so no one allocates resources to investigating them. They can have proof and still not move forward with charging Jamal if it's not worth it. Read up on crime statistics and reporting in big cities some time. It's wild. Certain parts of America are absolutely fucked, and no one cares because it doesn't affect normies.

>>96586525
Just a reminder that the UK grooming gang scandal used this exact tactic, almost down to the vampirism. In the UK, the cops were taking part and used "you'd think we were racist" to excuse a lack of investigation. In WoD they'd use a similar line to excuse a lack of investigation because the PD would be fully infiltrated.

>>96587414
You can quite plainly see that my book is made of paper, and for the record well over 400 pages long. Page 29 is flavour text, the book doesnt even really start until 33.

For the sake of good faith i looked anyway and reread through all of "kindred society" and "cities" chapters and found nothing. In fact i found this in contradiction
>almost everywhere too many vampires Compete for too few kine
>ideally a vamp would have 60km^2 Of city to hunt in, but in the modern night kindred are lucky to have 1% of that
Word of god says a generous hunting ground is just over 800m^2. If ive got my napkin math right thats 20,000 generous domains in a mid-sized city.

If im wrong id love to see the quote, but given that >>96587399 (who clearly is just trying to waste my time) agrees with you, im going to just assume you cant prove it because you're wrong and just making shit up

>>96587549
Literally gave you the page reference.

Believe whatever dipshit nonsense you want, anon. You're still wrong and I give no fucks about you.

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>>96587552
>page reference.
For a book i dont have when your computer is open in front of you, but you still cant prove it? Whatever man, lie on the internet if thats what you have to do to be happy, but the numbers and quotes speak for themselves

>>96587560
Google it. Your wrongness is your problem. Not mine.

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>>96587567
You know who else has google? You, go screenshot it

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>>96587583
Pretty fucking easy to do, dipshit. It's page 29 of the 1998 edition.

Google whatever edition your dumb ass pleases.

>>96586720
My understanding of Obfuscate is that it removes signs of the vamp from consciousness - for the same reason you don't have to strip naked to Obfuscate, that beer would be invisible.

they should just set the game in 1991 and let it be a comfy period piece

>>96587619
why, to soothe the autism of one dude who's wrong about most things he ever talks about?

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>>96587593
Same quote in 1992 2nd edition.

>>96587593
Hey, finally! If it was so easy why did it take you five posts over two hours?

But hey, there it is in black and white. I guess when revised edition came out they decided to cut the vampire population down to a few percent of what it was in the books im referencing from 1996, and they've brought it back up for 5th. Thats vtm for you i suppose

>>96587647
Gave you the page number in your own edition. You're just too stupid to read, dumbass.

>>96587647
>when revised edition
Already posted the quote in revised edition, retard: >>96587593

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>>96587647
5th edition for the dumbfuck.

>>96587647
>being proud of being obstinately wrong for as long as possible
lol, fucking retard

>>96586986
>you're so detached from what every day normal people think
"normal every day people" think all it takes is some hormone pills and a pair of scissors and you can turn a man into a woman, so this is a compliment.

>>96587647
i'm disappointed he did it at all, you mouthbreathers deserve your ignorance

>>96587721
>the insane <1% are normal ever day people
no, you are not

>>96587593
>>96587647
rekd

>>96586259
I thought nos ugliness wasn't just literal but felt metaphysically? Was I mistaken?

>>96587721
>Believes in aliens, ghosts, bigfoot and skinwalkers
>Science clearly demonstrates 10+ expressions of human sex chromosomes
>There's only man or woman!

>>96587661
>>96587665
Tip for next time you samefag, make sure you didnt misread the post. Its a dead giveaway that you made the same error twice in a row

>>96587695
Same for making sure the thing you post actually agrees with you ;)

>>96587765
>I am trying to wiggle out of being wrong anywhere I can
You can't. You're just wrong.

>>96587765
work on your narcissism anon, it's not improving your life

>VTM discussion before
Cool lore and vampire shit.
>VTM now
but how about MUH CAMERAS!!!!!!!!?????????? AND STATISTICS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's all so fucking tiresome.

>>96587765
>samefag
Wtf are you talking about? I posted multiple screenshots I took that I highlighted in the exact same way, and made absolutely no attempt to hide that yes: one person utterly destroyed you over the course of multiple posts, because multiple screenshots require multiple post.

>samefagging
Is when one anon responds to himself pretending to be someone else. Not when what's clearly one person posts multiple times, newfriend.

>>96587740
>chromosomes
"In humans and other species that produce two morphologically distinct types of gametes, and in which each individual produces only one type, a female is any individual that produces the larger type of gamete called an ovum, and a male produces the smaller type, called a sperm cell or spermatozoon."

>>96586249
Turns out chemtrails and cloud seeding were real all along. Everyone saw it and ignored it, how many people will care now that it's known. The Fog from Wraith is real, people want to believe in a "normal" world that isn't complicated.

Here's another one. Remember the bath salt zombie attacks? Maybe you don't but what if they were really zombies, your world would move on just like that.

>>96587813
>Turns out chemtrails and cloud seeding were real all along.
source

>>96587802
The part i dont understand is why it took you two hours of goading to do that when you could have been right from the start? Why waste your own time like that?

>>96587823
>Still trying to wiggle out of being wrong by obsessing over details
Sorry anon: you're wrong and a dipshit.

>>96587813
>>96587821
>Turns out chemtrails and cloud seeding were real all along.
His source is that it happened once in the UK in like the 60s and was immediately front-page news. Retards believe what they want to. Facts mean nothing to them.

>>96587808
>There's only two sexes!
Then sex isn't genetic
>Yes it is!
Then there are 10+ sexes, because there are 10+ expressions of sex chromosomes among humans
>But gametes!
Like half of them produce no gametes, so that's a minimum of 3 sexes
>Those are outliers!
A minimum of .5% of humans have non-standard human sex chromosomes. That's 40,000,000 human beings, at minimum. That's more humans that the population of the largest city on planet Earth.

>>96587808
Not much of an actionable definition though, is it? For one, how do you define those ants they discovered doing interspecies cloning last week? The cloned ants cannot reproduce with a member of their "original" species because none exist in their region and they do not escape captivity. They cannot reproduce with their own "species" because they are all "male". They can reproduce with their enslaver's species, but only to produce hybrid workers who are sterile or more genetically identical cloned "males".

Their very status as a species is nebulous, which highlights the constructed and anthropocentric nature of your definition. And this is happening naturally in ants- we're a species currently capable of organ transplants including penis and now even womb transplants. If you want to misapply that definition and try to structure society around it you're also going to have go supress a lot of already existing technology or it will be easily circumvented by routine elective surgery

>>96587515
Are you fucking retarded? Cops cream themselves over their solved crime numbers, it's literally all they care about. You're telling me they're letting free clearances go because... because umm black people something something???

You're stupid as fuck.

>>96587821
>>96587846
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mtw6cC_DpkE

>>96588024
>Literally links to a youtube video of a famously-retarded blowhard
Hahahaha. Just >>>/pol/ already, retarded anon.

>>96586322
>As for vampires? They don't show up on any camera at all
i thought this was just lasombra?

>>96586249
old WoD had some interesting things going on in terms of perception and how people who were not supernatural beings perceived reality:

- The veil was a thing, essentially a supernatural perception masking of reality. If you witness anything supernatural the "normalcy" would forcibly alter your perception/memories of such event and your own mind would jumpt to the most logical normal sounding conclusion possible.
- Vampires in most large cities were the actual power behind the scenes, owning lots of industry and real state. goverment itself was to some degree controlled by vampires and/or mages.
- The current world we live in, is pretty much the wetdream of what mascarilla was striving for in the 20th century. 90% of western civilization is a dull herd of social media obsessed bloodbags. easily manipulated, even easier to use as cattle.

>10+ expressions of sex chromosomes
>in every single cell in your entire body
>"yeah, some hormone pills and a 'routine elective surgery' can change that."

>>96588033
Nice argument, just ignore facts you don't like.

>>96588050
>Youtube videos of Marjory Taylor Green
>Facts
Pick one. But only one.

>>96588033
You just proved why no one would believe in vampires even if they were discussing them in Congress lmao

>>96588070
I'm perfectly willing to concede that, if the only person speaking publicly about vampires was Marjory Taylor Green? The masquerate would be safe as fuck.

>>96588060
>didn't watch the video
>can't discuss the facts
>ignore evidence because Muh messenger
Kekarooo r*ddit brain

>>96588024
do you have it somewhere i can read it?

>>96586651
Cops don't believe in global warming. And even if they did, global warming wouldn't get them a tank.

>>96588132
Weather Modification Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-congress/senate-bill/3383/all-info

https://makesunsets.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoouJ_p8gl2WiRlH-Y_nXbHxNWfL5RHJuX0NgdoFrSGlJ9TyFHve

>>96588212
that's just cloud seeding, not the chemtrails schizo shit

>>96588227
Link to the company is not cloud seeding you mong. Everyone should be satisfied people would never believe in Vampires en masse you don't believe what's in front of your eyes now.

All they'd have to do is call it a right wing conspiracy and everyone would ignore reality.

>>96588272
i don't see the thing with my eyes you're telling me i should be seeing, i want to see the chemtrail part

>>96588048
Did you know that every single human being has in their DNA a predetermined breast size and beard pattern? When you hit puberty, the estrogen or testosterone your body starts producing causes them to grow respectively. It's why basically all prepubescent children look alike.
So if you were to take a prepubescent child and swap their hormones they'd be nearly indistinguishable from all the rest of that sex other than reproductive parts.
The human body is an incredible thing.

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>>96588280
And for fucks sake spare me the "but they didn't explicitly call it a chemtrail" act. The company exists to release gasses into the air for the purpose of weather modification. I'm tired of spoon feeding you look it up yourself.

>>96588306
>Did you know that every single human being has in their DNA a predetermined breast size and beard pattern? When you hit puberty, the estrogen or testosterone your body starts producing causes them to grow respectively. It's why basically all prepubescent children look alike.
technically correct but this is such a pants of head way of explaining genetics

your brain is an incredible thing

>>96588326
chemtrails is the conspiracy of large numbers of commercial aircraft secretly releasing unknown chemicals into the air via specifically their contrails, not some company publically talking about doing it deliberately, openly, and with balloons

closest i ever got to believing anything resembling chemtrails was when this dude in charge of a bunch of snow resorts was telling me how much more snow there was during covid when there were no planes messing with the weather

>>96588330
In my defense I'm catering to my audience.
They don't always understand things well.

>>96588342

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>>96588342
Just admit you refuse to even entertain it. We both know there's nothing you can see to make you change your mind or look into it yourself

>>96588389
i am entertaining it, you aren't delivering it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

this is what the word chemtrails refers to

>>96588389
Oh an AI says it's real, that's the proof I needed!

>>96588393
cloud seeding is real, it just isn't chemtrails, because chemtrails is a lot more than just cloud seeding

>>96588392
Pendantry
>>96588393
Being obtuse

Inb4 off topic the point stands, Vampires would be no worse off in today's ticktock world

>>96588436
it's not pedantry and you're the obtuse one about your improper use of words

i agree about this being an amusing parallel to the vampire conspiracy, but that's not any sort of proof for chemtrails

>>96588436
>GRRR WHY DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE BELIEVE IN THIS OBVIOUSLY MADE UP THING?!
I bet you're scared of vaccines too

>>96588442
Bro it is pendantry, average people are bound to missidentify cloud seeding and comtrails and work up a grand conspiracy. When it turns out yes the private/public partnership of weather modification does in fact happen, people like you derail the topic because the theory isn't 100% what Wikipedia says it has to be. The entire point is weather modification is happening and no I'm not going to spend all day linking every company that does it and all their methods just to satisfy you or your specific criteria for it.

>>96588499
bro, you are anonymous, nobody knows who you are and your shame is invisible, shut the fuck up and just use language better from now on

>>96586249
I miss him.
I miss him so fucking much.

>>96587739

Uh. So incels are actually Nosferatu. Neat.

>>96587918
NTA, but see how much attention a missing white woman gets compared to a missing non-white woman.

Although I think there's something to what you say too if you buy into the prison system in America being a system of modern day slavery that needs fresh bodies all of the time and that blacks are overrepresented in prisons. But that could be some dindu shit.

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>>96587739
A lot of vain people who are the most beautiful men/women in the world are turned Nossie out of spite and are considered the Cleopatras of their kind, but they are mostly turned because they have the most potent in utilizing and perfecting Obsfucation.

>>96587181
Because if he didn't someone would say "the cops ignored it because the victim was black" because ACAB retards are retarded.

>>96586298
>so we can buy a tank
You know police departments get that kind of shit donated to them, right? They don't have to buy it.

>>96586249
rip cobes

>>96587918
Yes, it's one of the best known corruption scandals in the last 40 years of American criminology. Beat cops have no power. The district attorneys, prosecutors, chiefs and mayors are who have power; and high numbers make them look bad so almost every city that embraces a crime-data reporting program slides into downgrading crimes to make the local elites look good. In America this mostly happens through the plea bargaining system. It's how criminals with 20 convictions are still on the street. Instead of going through the work of a jury trial, cost of a jail, and embarrassment of high felony numbers, the prosecutors offer to downgrade serious crimes to something minor if the defendant pleas guilty to a misdemeanor with a minimum sentence. Everyone wins except the ordinary people.

>>96588762
Maybe just me but I think Nos looking like the Toxic Avenger is stupid. It was done better in Kindred: The Embraced

>>96588392
NTA that you're responding to, but cloud seeding actually is the problem. Look at the chemicals used to precipitate the reaction:
>silver iodide, a highly reactive metal
>potassium iodide, increases photosensitivity
Alternative methods include atmospheric ionization. Disrupting the natural hydrological cycle and distributing metals and photosensitizers across populated areas... are not good things. Even leaving the chemicals themselves aside, I believe that the evidence will eventually show that many of the effects attributed to the vague and nebulous concept of "climate change" will eventually be proven to be at least partially caused by cloud seeding practices. I leave you with a common sense pair of questions:
>What happens to your aquifers, rivers and oceans if you artificially force clouds to form and rain to fall?
>Where does the water in clouds come from?

>>96588807
MRAPs aren't tanks either, they're shitty GWOT troop transports that we later realized sucked ass. They're hard to store, expensive as fuck, didn't work very well in the first place, and are borderline useless in a conventional war.
So it's either hand them to anyone willing to take them (And pay to maintain and store them), or scrap them.

>>96586362
>>96586259
What you and the other retards don't understand is that the masquerade is not about keeping random people unaware, it's not even about keeping the average working man unaware. Who the fuck cares if Joe Schmoe knows his neighbor drinks blood? He's a nobody with no power. The point is to keep it from being a thing that serious people who could actually do something will know and talk about.

>>96586603
Cameras literally do massively cut down on crime and catch tons of criminals, your point is retarded.

>>96587560
>>96587549
>>96587414
Bro this is embarrassing.

>>96587593
>>96587641
1 per 100,000 is wild. So denver metro area has 30 vampires? Seems sparse. Guess it makes sense.

>>96587414
>Revised edition
Is this the latest edition?

>>96588807
MRAPs aren't tanks, they're bare-bones armored cars with a bonus against large unsophisticated bombs.

>>96588748
Prison system discourse is mostly dead memes from last century dredged up by political parties to appeal to the dumber parts of their constituency. Prison labor history is a great example:
-in the renaissance era kings would order everyone with crimes greater than a slap on the wrist and lesser than instant death to the galleys because their labor was useful there
-by the steam era prisoners were a religious take on rehabilitation, which is the same cope as punishment (neither reduces crime, only physically removing career criminals does)
-by early 1900s America prison labor still existed, but it was only useful in the least productive industries like turpentine manufacture, and seen as a kind of corrupt legacy of the past
-today it's a dog and pony show for politicians who want to look "hard" on crime - a robot can stamp license plates better

>>96587526
Hey, cool it with the antisemitism

>>96588896
the issue with that is that regular climate change is already changing rainfall patterns, so you have the same problem whether you do anything or not

i agree that clumsy climate manipulation is retarded, but that's more because nobody knows what the fuck they're doing

>>96587017
>Do you have any idea how many people still make fun of "conspiracy theorists" even after the Epstein thing has been blown wide open?
This is irrelevant because Epstein is an interior Elites issue. Normoids ignore/don't care about it because they know they're powerless and it makes them uncomfortable.

>Okay, so some vamp fucks up in 24 hours, and undeniable proof is gained
And this keeps happening until someone with real power notices. And then Vamps are fucked because that's what the masquerade is actually meant to preserve and prevent.

The alternative is you have a setting where Vampires acktually own every single institution ever and occupy every government ever. Which is retarded and lame. Hell it doesn't even work in-setting because the Technocracy would annihilate every blankbody on the planet before the week was out if they were ever deemed a legitimate threat.

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>>96589080
>the issue with that is that regular climate change is already changing rainfall patterns, so you have the same problem whether you do anything or not
The average Greta Thunberg doesn't understand the first fucking thing about variance.

>Temp varies 0.3 degrees per year naturally
>Year 1: temp changes +0.35 degrees
>OMG GLOBAL WARMING GIVE US $$$ OR YOU'LL DIE
>Year 2: temp changes -0.2 degrees
>OMG GLOBAL WAR--I MEAN, CLIMATE CHANGE GIVE US $$$

"Climate Change" is the biggest fucking scam, much better than DEI. No matter what happens you'll see change and there's never a deliverable. Ask the average Greta how the fuck NYC was under a fucking glacier 15,000 years ago -- not 15 million years ago, 15 fucking THOUSAND years ago -- without the fascism of man-made climate change.

>>96589252
>"Climate Change" is the biggest fucking scam, much better than DEI.
I think racial animus is the better scam because it's looting-based rather than handouts-based. It's fundamentally theft and knows its own goals better than just global warming.

>>96589280
>I think racial animus is the better scam because it's looting-based rather than handouts-based. It's fundamentally theft and knows its own goals better than just global warming.
The problem is DEI is far more observable You can only put so many DEI hires in an organization before it fails -- witness video games and Hollywood. They have the deliverable of profits and could only sustain the DEI's for a decade before they destroyed it. D&D of course is the same thing; it's simply a matter of how much cushion does the business have before the parasites destroy it.

>>96589313
>They have the deliverable of profits and could only sustain the DEI's for a decade before they destroyed it.
That grift began in the 70s, so much longer. Longer than climate change.
Importantly though, the climate change grift will only last until there's a financial squeeze because nobody actually cares about it except dumb kids, and those grifting, which are a very small group. Racial grifts appeal to a huge segment of the population who will fight tooth and nail to keep looting their rivals until there's nothing left to loot.

>>96589252
/pol/tards have like 5 topics in their heads and they have to force all of them into the conversation as quickly as possible no matter the context.

>>96589353
If you didn't have ad homs you'd have nothing at all. At least the conspiracy topic directly relates to vampires

>>96589091
>Hell it doesn't even work in-setting because the Technocracy would annihilate every blankbody on the planet before the week was out if they were ever deemed a legitimate threat.
I like the cooperation between the supernaturals regarding the Masquerade. Sure, Mages, vampires, werewolves and such fucking despise each other, but when it comes to not letting the normies find out they exist, it's all sheer pragmatism. Like the local Technocrat outpost being as likely to stake some retard Cainite killing people left and right themselves as they are to just tell the local Prince to do something about it, for example

>>96586351
I've been working on a scifi setting kinda like this. The eldritch horror old ones are exiles from the multiverse, their reason for exile was basically being a bunch of whinny nihilistic losers who were mad at God.

Yes.
The cosmic horror entities are reddit atheists.

>>96586435
wait bigfeets live in Agartha? post sauce bruh that sounds cool

>>96589433
Right. You can put the most onions 90 IQ DEI Redditor in a dog kennel and the Redditor has magical powers from the dogs's perspective. "He can make light appear! He can open the magically sealed food container!" Doesn't mean he isn't also still a retard.

>>96587885
everything you just said is retarded

>>96589252
I dunno anon, maybe you haven't noticed if you're like 12 or something, but over the past few decades the weather has changed a whole fucking lot.

>>96588306
You don't pass

>>96586249
RIP Cobes

>>96586271
so you show up at the chiefs house in the middle of the night while holding his youngest child by the neck and explain to him the situation
the next day you're in the clear
this is basically how the jews get away with it

>>96589065
I'm guessing you're from England or something but in the US the prison system was remade in the 1870s in order to replicate slavery. Prison labor is still used mostly because of that, since it's way more profitable than any other sort of penal system.

>>96589433
That sounds really lame

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>>96586259
>You post a picture of a Nossie, everyone and their mother will tell you it's slop.
OH MY CAINE YOU LOOK LIKE AI SLOP

>>96589252
>seething that the weather is hotter, again
lol
It's good you're not in any agricultural field