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>retard brings some gifting Zedru shit deck
>has no fucking wincon
>has plenty of stuff to prevent the rest of the table from doing anything
>everyone scoops almost two hours in because le ebin gift player has turned the game into an impossible to end slog and they have zero ways to end a game
>they also take 20 minutes a turn
I have never wanted to kill myself more

>cheating out consecrated sphinx requires you have a way to cheat out consecrated sphinx though.
>I'm saying you need another card to do what you're saying.
Which, AGAIN, you need for Quantum Riddler to not be shit.
For Quantum Riddler’s effect to matter at all you have to be in a very bad situation. A situation blue never wants to be in. You have to have an almost empty hand. In fact QR has to be one of the only cards in your hand when you warp it.
If it’s not, the 2nd effect is never going to go off on the warp. You only have 1 turn to make the 2nd effect go off. Not even 1 rotation, but 1 turn.

It can’t attack or do anything except crew/station. So in 99% of cases it’s 2 mana draw 1 and nothing else

>>96605783
>Oopsie, forgot to link
>>96605756

>>96605784
>anon if you play it from hand with the blink spell in hand it draws 2
>This is why everyone was making fun of you, you didn't read the card.
Except, I did read the card, and I did say you draw 2 if you blink it:
>>96604117
>2 cards in hand
>blue, somehow, etc etc
>Quantum Riddler and blink spell
>warp Quantum Riddler
>draw 1
>blink Quantum Riddler
>draw 1 again
>2 cards in hand
>second effect does fucking nothing again
The point is, drawing you cards actually makes the 2nd effect of QR- you know, the one where you need <=1 card in hand for it to fucking trigger?- less likely to go off.

That’s why I’m making fun of you, you didn’t read the post.

>>96605806
>still doesn't get it
holy shit you niggerbrained retard

if you have 2 cards in hand and one of them is QR, and you warp in QR, you draw 2 cards just from that. And if you blink it, you draw a 3rd card. And a 4th if the blink spell was ephemerate.

>>96605806
>2 cards in hand
>warp Quantum Riddler
>Quantum Riddler says "you are attempting to draw a card with one card in hand, draw that many plus one instead"
>draw 2
>3 cards in hand
end of line

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Posting my budget Edgar deck again cus i need some help as a newbie, please.
https://moxfield.com/decks/BcnXtMXyeUqKydslNL-3gw
I've updated it a bit but it still doesn't feel quite as good as it should be, also need to take out the Vito-Bloodthirsty Conqueror combo cus that's apparently bracket 4 and for now i'm only aiming for 3.
Looking to add Demonic/Vampiric Tutor as game changers, idk what to use as the 3rd one yet and i definitely wanna add Phyrexian Altar and Oathsworn Vampire for their combo and probably Clavileno just cus he seems good.
Anything else i should change? What should i cut or add still?

>>96605813
>make a stupid point
>get told that it’s stupid
>get angry that other people “just don’t get it!!!!”
Let me make it niiiiice and simple

YOU SHOULD NEVER BE DOWN TO 1-2 CARDS IN BLUE

>>96605813
>>96605827
>entire point is that ability 1 fights with ability 2
>ummmmm akshually ability 1 fights ability 2 even harder if you blink it as we recommend
Holy shit EDH really was a mistake

>>96605831
we're not talking to you, we're talking to the troll who's pretending to not know how the game works.

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>>96605831
>if I act smug nobody will notice that I didn't read the card properly
take the L retard-kun

qrd on what the retards are having a 700 post melt down about today?

>>96605837
You're right anon, it should discard cards when it enters so you get to use ability 2 more. Now that's what I call synergy.

>>96605754
>What advice would you have for people looking to get into edh?
Build a janky tri color deck with free or cheap cards you have and go from there. Then build a mono color deck doing the same.

>>96605841
Oh just the usual. A mediocre card is overhyped and the fact that it actually synergizes with itself worse than someone realized is somehow a win for people trying to argue that it’s good

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>>96605843
UB is bad even when I like the IP though

>make spiderman deck
>table is extremely angry I used the IP which shall not be named

>>96605841
Some anon is having a bizarre melty over quantum riddler because he thinks a 4/6 flyer for 2 mana that is neutral or better on card advantage is bad.
It got worse when he didn't read it properly and got made fun of for his lack of reading comprehension, triggering full on sperg rage

>>96605754
>What advice would you have for people looking to get into edh?
If you're getting in because of UB, you're wasting your money. Go buy figurines and posters instead, if you must.
Always start with precons, no matter how much someone says you should/could build your own for cheaper. You won't have any clue what you're doing and will likely make bad mana bases and buy a bunch of strictly-worse draft chaff. I know I did.
Play the precon at least half a dozen times before looking to get a new deck.
Upgrade with sites like EDHREC, don't let anyone tell you that you should be trawling 1000 cards on Scryfall. Yes, sometimes that's the way to build your personal take on something, but the best cards for a commander come up on EDHREC for a reason

>>96605768
I went to LGS once and there was exactly 4 people there, including me. I would've waited longer but I had already waited 20 minutes just for the first person to show up. Me, some ~45 year old retard who plays incredibly slow and seemingly doesnt know what any of his cards do. A Filipino who similarly never seems to know what his cards doing despite only playing the same 4 mono red decks and king retard who brought Le epic chaos deck. Two and a half hours lately, realistically not even halfway through the game I scoop and go home and have never played with any of them (except the Filipino hes not terrible all things considered just magnified in the moment) again. It's usually a busy shop so its not hard.

>>96605852
>>96605869
>one of us tells only truths, the other only lies

I'm looking for budget card draw options that consistently draw cards and not just pay 2 draw 2 instants/sorceries I already have mystic remora so that's my budget range $1-$10

>>96605870
Terrible advice top to bottom

>>96605905
preordain

>>96605905
Skullclamp if you have anything that gets you disposable bodies frequently

>>96605905
in what COLOURS?

>>96605905
I feel like I spend half my time just explaining to people how to use very simple search terms in Scryfall
>c=u o:draw usd<=10
https://scryfall.com/search?q=c%3Du+o%3Adraw+usd%3C%3D10&unique=cards&as=grid&order=edhrec

>>96605918
5 color
>>96605911
Thanks
>>96605913
This could be good but I don't make a ton of 1/1s

>tq

Learn the basic rules and build a super cheap aggro deck that's two colors at most. Grab some iconic non-creature cards for its color identity like Swords to Plowshares, Counterspell, Infernal Grasp, Cultivate, Lightning Bolt, etc and just play the deck until you're bored of it and 5 more times after that. By then you should have a grasp of what you want out of the game and how games themselves play out in your pod(s). Don't jump into building dream decks right away, you'll fuck it up and won't be happy and you'll have sunk money into 4+ decks you want to pull apart.

>>96605910
Itemize your issues and arguments again at or don’t bother
I’m guessing
>but I heckin love UB so now I’m upset about your entire post and not just the anti UB part!

>>96605927
>5 color
Literally more options than you can shake a stick at
The best ones tend to be synergistic like skullclamp and enchantresses and garruk's uprising and archmage emeritus and all that sorta thing
But engines that just generically draw cards? Phyrexian Arena, Smuggler's Share, Mask of Memory, Mangara the Diplomat, Faerie Mastermind, Talion the Kindly Lord, etc.

In monocolour you have options like war room, endless atlas and throne of eldraine

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>eat a notion thief wheel then an all is dust
>have only shadowspear
>mothman casts deathclaw, blows up my shadowspear
>use radiant performer because of last thread
>destroy all permanents, even lands
>"wow, bracket 4?"
>they all pack up and leave

felt like a win

>>96605960
war room is good in most decks but it's pretty painful in 4 and 5-colour
and throne of eldraine is NOT budget
good card tho

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>>96605829
More draw

All the cheap vamps. ALL of them. Edgar just wants a wide board. Don't worry about good stuff, having 4 1 mana vamps w/4 tokens out is going to feel a lot better than just vein ripper

More cheap anthems. Starlight spectacular is potential lethal if the pod lets it stick, even with just 6 vamps thats 15 extra damage, with just 8 vamps connecting it's near lethal from starting health

If you're building Edgar for aggro you don't need so much ramp, draw is better than ramp and you don't want to be top decking talismans mid-late game when you need more vamps. More draw and 37 lands+the crutch duo of Sol+Arcane will cover you just fine

Tutors are gay and sweaty. If you're using tutors you may as well leave in the vito/conqueror infinite because your deck is not bracket 3 in spirit. Personal opinion only, most players are shitters who rely on tutors so you won't get flak from others

Drop the winmore cards like Veinripper and Blade of the bloodchief and Impact tremors

Cloudstone Curio is an incredible wincon in the deck who cares if it's $10 get it

As aggro you don't need so much spot removal, you're either in a position to win by turn 5 or you're not winning. Protecting your board is infinitely more important than worrying about someone else building a board. On a related note, get fucking rid of Blasphemous Act and any symmetrical board wipes. They'll never help you: either you will have a full board and won't want to nuke it, or you're so far behind that nuking other people's creatures won't help you anyways. Kindred Dominance costs way more but unlike BA it can actually win you games on the spot. Again, you're aggro, your goal is to have a wide board of dirt cheap creatures swinging. Building your deck around other people's plans is playing to lose, every slot wasted on one off responses like Infernal Grasp is a slot you could've used to put a creature that puts pressure like Gifted Aetherborn

Been playing a lot of commander lately and every game feels like this
>Deck I'm playing is struggling cause of random bullshit like lack of lands even though I run 37
>Someone ramps and plays the one ring turn 3
>Me being responsible exiles it
>Whole table "bruh fuck you wtf"
>Someone plays rhystic or tithe
>Me having to not let people gain advantage through bullshit destroys enchantment paying 1
>Proceeds to get gang raped by even precon players cause ""blowing up cards that generate too much value quickly is apparently too mean""
Do people really just leave you alone if you ignore their shit is the game plan just ramp, ramp, ramp, combo, game over?

>>96606010
It sounds like you had bad luck with your pods. Some grudge is unavoidable when blowing stuff up, but it sounds like the others act a bit stupid about it.

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You've cracked all the packs,
You think they're a hit;
What card do you like,
That're actually quite shit.

>>96606010
timmy hates being interacted with
always has done

>>96606004
Wow that's really good advice, thank you fren. Getting more 1 drops and adding in the cards you've mentioned does seem like a good idea.
I was thinking about taking out some removal but i always saw people online say you want like 8 minimum, it's good to hear that that's not really the case.
Think i'll keep the tutors tho, people at my LGS are kinda sweaty from what i've seen so far (my first ever match there was against some control deck with rhystic study lol), so i don't think it's inappropriate to have them.

>>96606028
>"this card is shit retards" when they can't fathom there are a bunch of other formats outside of EDH

>>96606010
I feel like this is a very american issue, in germany people don't care about that at all in my experience.
I think you guys have too many expectations of politeness and it bleeds into how games are played there. Everyone here is just playing too win for the most part.

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I'm pretty new to this game but doesn't this thing seem like insane value for its cost?
>2/2 for 2 with two keywords
>everything works off dying OR exile, so aside from bouncing to hand or chaos warp there's no way to remove anything without generating some kind of value for him
>it's incredibly easy to get him to 4 power even if his first paragraph didn't exist, considering anthems and single-turn power boosts are ubiquitous in its colors
>blink and resurrection, also staples of its colors, means that his second paragraph is not only a removal deterrent, but also a potent offensive weapon that melts everyone's most valuable everything off the board
>you also gain life off the first ability, just in case you weren't generating enough fucking value

Who's the most combo heavy commander? That can just win consistently by or before turn 4 I wanna build something completely stupid

>>96605905
>1-10 dollars
There's pretty much nothing you cant buy outside of rhystic

>>96606045
He sounds pretty good, yeah. Which is why I immediately put him in my Ratadrabik deck. He's finally one of the removal pieces the deck needed.

>>96605937
No your opinions are just bad, and I want people to know that they shouldn't listen to it.

>>96606039
>doesn't play with noobs
>doesn't think he may just have lucked out with his pod/lgs
yep, it's the country of socially awkward autism, mein behinderter bruder

Any more of them lorwyn leaks?

>>96605924
Scryfall should consider simplifying itself.

>>96606062
Thanks for the update, UBpiggy! I’m sure everyone will on-board your assertions even though you failed to explain them!

>>96606068
How much simpler do you fucking need?
>color equals blue
>oracle text contains “draw”
>price in usd is less than or equal to 10
If in doubt go read the fucking syntax page

>>96606032
Generic deck building advice online never takes into account a deck's archetype or goals. 8 spot removal is fine if you're a midrange deck at a table of midrange/combo decks, since everyone is playing more mana expensive generic goodstuff permanents that can be vulnerable to low cost removal rocket tag, but aggro can't afford to be replacing creatures. You're running a 100m sprint, not a marathon. Your biggest worry is putting enough of your boys out and protecting them. You'll almost always be happier to see Dawn's Truce or Boros Charm than Go For The Throat or Shoot the Sheriff, or a draw instead of a rock.

>>96606052
Ramp ramp Gyruda
>88w88 what’s this? Pretty much all clone creatures are even mana cost????

>>96606072
>REE IT SHOULDN'T NEED TO BE SIMPLER
This is irrelevant. If it is so common that you need to do this then it indicates an issue. You seem to be angry a solution could exist.
Here are your choices: Keep explaining or simplify it. Pick one.

>>96606063
Nah like half my LGS joined with FF, I've never seen anyone sperg out so far besides one guy (the rhystic study dude) who got annoyed at me always mentioning my damage trigger on his turn (he previously told me i have to remember my own triggers when i forgot it until he was a few moves into his turn lol).

>>96606045
commander brain had pozzed people into thinking the second paragraph makes him unsuitable for the command zone, since it resets his counters. Yes, sometimes it's that simple: it doesn't ooze value out of every possible line you can read and requires a basic build around = trash

>>96606077
>If it is so common that you need to do this then it indicates an issue.
Nah. Youre assuming 2 things
1. That the people asking these questions know Scryfall exists
2. That they’re not just below average intelligence
The point at which youre treating a thread of people like ChatGPT, asking them to just feed you a list of fucking cards instead of looking it up yourself, I’m already leaning towards stupidity over lack of knowledge

>>96606068
anyone incapable of understanding scryfall shouldn't be playing magic at all
it's a very simple website

>>96606077
There is an entire advanced search where you dont need to know syntax anon :) your ignorance isnt a sign of bad design

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>>96605905
Considering it costs a quarter I got a lot of work out of Requiem Monolith. You can customize how many cards you want to draw too, and I even had it acting as a deterrent in my deck because people didn't want to attack me for fear of giving me cards (and I killed a player by choosing their blocker).

>>96606028
Nice haiku retard but thats a good card

>>96606076
How do you build this beast

>>96606101
>people didn't want to attack me for fear of giving me cards (and I killed a player by choosing their blocker).
but you can only activate it as a sorcery and it only lasts til end of turn, why would they be afraid of attacking you?

Ive been watching a lot of YGO anime on youtube. It always tickled me that monsters had "secret abilities" that would surprise opponents. It doesnt make any sense, the cards just dont have the relevant text on them? You have to have autism levels over 9000 and memorize every single card in this universe?

But then I figured out the truth. Its not that the cards dont have the text, its just that YGO anime characters are all actually commander players and they never read card text that their opponents play. So when a triggered ability happens they start spazzing out.

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>>96606101
>Activate only as a Sorcery
FUCK STOP THIS FUCKING HORSESHIT ALREADY
THIS ISNT POKÉMON
STOP DIRECTLY STOPPING COOL TRICKS BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN HAVE A CHANCE FROM EVEN HAPPENING

>>96606122
that card would completely ape monkey broken if it was instant speed lmao
>why yes I will draw like 3 cards every turn cycle minimum if anyone blocks anything

Only pseuds complain about activate ad sorcery

>>96606121
You should watch it in japanese, they're marginally less retarded about this there and the script is much more enjoyable in general

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>>96606073
Yeah that makes a lot of sense, I'll keep that in mind as i edit the deck more!
That's really liberating honestly, i was stuck feeling like there wasn't anything else i could cut to fit in more creatures.
Also btw, definitely gonna have to get this card, it seems so insanely OP for this deck.

>>96606084
>since it resets the counters
That makes no sense, the counters aren't for killing people with, they're for spamming spot removal once you have a way to generate 2 power onto him. You don't even have to use 1/1 counters, any number of passive effects that raise his power also work.

I look at this card and see so, so many ways of building it as a commander. the hardest part would be limiting myself to a reasonable number of themes because he does fucking everything and synergizes with fucking everything else his colors do.

Anyway my friend played him tonight and I'm salty

I had a nightmare last night that someone played a spider man card against me

>>96606163
It was a premonition.

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>play promo/promo
Where the fuck do these things even come from? There's like 8 promos that no one seems to know where they come from and just say "play promo" or "promo"
My LGS is selling this shit for 140. Where the fuck did it even come from?

>>96606154
>playing against removal.dek
of course you're salty

>>96606163
It's going to happen some time

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>>96606185
>140 bucks
>140 buckeronis
>14 big ones
>to cosplay as a cannibal

>>96606214
That’s fucking awful looking good lord

>>96606163
your underlying psychosexual is preparing you in advance when someone is inevitably going to touch you

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>>96606214
Aunt May burnt the absolute fuck out of those pancakes. If I was Peter I'd web her ass to the bed while she was sleeping.

>>96606214
Those pancakes look diseased.

>>96606214
>Extremely rare promo card is expensive
Shocking. There are 1000 dollar fugly lightning bolts too

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>>96606234
Wheatcakes are diseased

>>96606214
Harry Potter energy

>>96606242
I hope they won't feature that shit as special guests in strixhaven

>>96606245
They won't.

taking a break from vidya and I think it's time to tweak my Tidus deck some for this week. I've been feeling certain cards aren't pulling their weight or are too slow, or maybe the deck just isn't going fast enough to make them feel good.
I've got a maybeboard of cards I have available on my desk right now that could go in. So far the ones that I've had negative experiences with
>Trygon Prime
Drawing it later makes it very obvious and the payoff is fairly low compared to things like Herald, Skatewing, or even Rikku.
>Insight Engine
5 mana to get it going feels steep at first, but god do I wanna see it get going.
>Sovereign Okinec
Just like Trygon Prime, having to wait for him to attack makes it more difficult to make it go off
>Yuna
4 mana for what is essentially Biophagus in this deck is just not worth it
Any advice is welcome, I've been sorta stewing on this for a bit this week.

>>96606214
>>96606241
are those flavours text supposed to be dialogue happening in the same scene?

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>>96606236
hey buddy, the sarcasm corner is over there

>>96606251
Yes.

>>96606280
This is the shittiest gettyimage I've ever seen. Get your shit together, getty.

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>>96606247
Trygon Predator

Guy in the Chair

>>96606371
that's me in the corner
that's me in the command zone
losing to some combo

>>96606247
went down the list a little so here's the cliff's notes
sporocyst bad, power conduit bad, lorescale bad, purestrain bad. i aint reading 50 cards.

>>96606128
Its controller would draw the cards, so it'd just act as a deterrent to attacking you since you can just activate it to draw a bunch of cards off of your block.
I still feel like you can find a place for it in certain decks or situations. Which is why I bought a few. But I'm honestly not sure where I'll play them in.

>>96606129
Instant speed interaction is generally more fun.

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https://moxfield.com/decks/T7xECaELREChl2Jj7WAfAg
how do i make this deck less shit?


https://moxfield.com/decks/LY69SiOO1Ui4sXAOJbuZyw
how do I know what to cut on this deck and do I have too much mana ramp?

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>>96606414

>>96606371
Supportive Parents

Do you guys think griselbrand will ever get unbanned?? I've heard a lot of people make the argument that mono black decks basically have 2-3 cards combos that act like griselbrand but better and unbanning grisel would make it a game changer already locking it to bracket 3+ I know it's a stupid powerful ability in the command zone but mikaues + ballista is a in command zone infinite combo for cmc7 meanwhile you need to pay like at least 12+ mana for sheoldred grisel just to find your combo

>>96606474
I would like for him to unbanned but I’m biased because I pulled him and never got to use him.

>>96606474
He's too strong for bracket 3 for sure especially since he can be a commander instead of only being in the 99.

>>96606474
>>96606484
"banned as a commander" is such a mind numbingly easy thing to implement and understand, as well as an errata for commander ninjutsu - but the ball is on WotC to not be retarded for just about 5.3 seconds so never ever

>>96606488
>>96606484
Bracket 3 does prohibit early game infinites and has a max of 3 game changers it is limiting enough in for a mono black command zone scenario but if grisel is in the 99 it's definitely better and could see play in cEDH but idk how the meta would work then

>>96606491
He's unacceptable in the 99 too, he's just less reliably game-ruining there.
A creature that singlehandedly wins the game for free just by resolving isn't good for the game.

>>96606247
>Spike Weaver
>Lighthouse Chronologist
I may not like you, but your taste in cards is based at times.

>>96606502
I mean walking ballista wins the game as soon as it resolves sure you can bring back grisel with commander tax but I feel like if you blow up someone's 8cmc commander 3 times a game it's not gonna do anything

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96606484
>>96606488
>>96606491
>>96606502
I cannot stress enough how bad 8cmc is in modern day Commander especially when every pod has 1-2 plays on average holding up swords and path on standbye

>>96606502
>"for free"
>except the 8 mana you have to spent or circumvent by spending other ressources and the 17,5% of your starting life it costs to activate
>you need to rush him out and immediately activate because he is KOS
>you will drain a lot of your life to essentially "just" filter for your best cards for which you likely don't have enough mana to deploy them all anyway

i would draw obscene amounts of cards every time and immediately get smacked in the mouth for it and die, but I would feel like a god regardless.
I'm not even saying that he wouldn't be top tier, but I am saying that any tutor from the command zone is much better and more ban worthy

>>96606491
We are told banned as commander is too complicated. You know what isn't too complicated? Bracket systems where you have to read articles/watch videos and run your deck list through a website to find out its power level.

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Anyone tried her? Is she any good?

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>whip out xenagos budget casual deck
>casually draw 24 cards
>casually play a chandra's ignition for 24 and kill table
https://files.catbox.moe/ole634.mp3

Remember when people thought unbanning coalition victory was a dumb idea because it was too easy to achieve? I still haven't seen anyone play that card or win with it if they do cast it. Same goes for griselbrand I think it's a Timmy trap where they'll try to turn 1 win by paying 35 life draw 35 and then whiff pass turn and get murdered by a agro player from a haste creature or bolt it would definitely be a combo piece for cEDH and see optimal play there but the reason it's banned is cause Timmy desperately wants to play it and bitch boy Johnny is gonna play it against noobs with precons and wreck then before turn 6

>>96606527
His ability is instant speed so it doesn't matter if you cast removal after he resolves, he can draw the whole deck before he dies anyway

>>96606540
You know what else isn't too complicated? A release schedule that is now essentially bi monthly with multiple one off mechanics each set and different tiers of boosters and booster boxes as well as a new iteration of the bundles and starter kits every other set

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So...you like drawing cards, do ya?

>>96606567
I mean true but in a bracket 3 deck you don't really have a ton of access to the crazy 0 cost artifacts to utilize the 21 cards you draw

>>96606604
me am discard ulamog to hand size and shuffle grave into library
thank you blue man

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>>96606567
>assuming your at 40 life because your opponents can't read and are too stupid to expect what's going to happen
>you can activate him 5 times
>you get 35 cards, barely above a third of your deck

I've drawn more cards in a single turn with shitrel and definitely more than that in time before Grieselbrand could even be online, and I am in colors that can actually protect my bullshit - yet he Plagon isn't banned

>>96606623
In the 99 you can reanimate Grisel by discarding his ass but like in the command zone it's harder to make that consistent I truly think a bracket 3 mono black griselbrand deck wouldn't be good but in the 99 of a optimized bracket 4+ list it would shine there

>>96606613
>hand size
lol

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now that the dust has settled, can we agree that he is only banned because a member of the old RC has lost a game against him?

>>96606656
He is overrated.

>>96606656
I think he should be banned but he's far less retarded than Vivi and if Vivi is okay then Griselbrand and Emrakul should be okay too.

>>96606656
He might get unbanned this April when they announce the new list of game changers and unbans

>>96606666
Holy shit demonic quads of truth time to start buying griselbrands before the unban happens

>>96606666
I would put him to reanimate in my pile'o'haste

>>96606656
>7cmc creature with no protection against removal
can I get a QRD on why this was bannable to begin with?

>>96606666
>this April
nigga april already happened we in september

>>96606695
>put removal on stack
>they still draw cards in response

>>96606701
This coming April meaning 2026

>>96606656
Kaalia players are erect at the thought.

>>96606695
if you have any draw=lifegain then his ability reads "draw your whole deck at instant speed"
and even if you don't you can still rip 14-21 cards quite easily
the body is basically irrelevant

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Sat down for a bracket 3 game and unloaded my "staple surprise" on them.
Turn 1 Smothering Tithe.
Turn 2 Wheel of Fortune (real, not proxied)
Dropped a Tax Collector and flickered it using Ephemerate. Followed up with Sheoldred, Bowmasters, and Rent Is Due.
Used a Windfall then played Doubling Season into Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset, along with Teferi, Hero of Dominaria. Double ult had the game locked doen on turn 2 but poor Timmy thought he could play it out so everyone else got to watch us play draw-go for 15 minutes until he died to Sheoldred (I didn't attack to draw it out).
When the game was over I told Timmy he could have won if everyone else didn't concede and kept playing. (He had no chance of winning I was sandbagging an Emiel in my hand).

Game 2 hit them with the "Super Speed" where I pretended to be the smol bean for several turns (had a Leyline of Sanctity just in-case). Commander (Ezio) down on turn 2. Secretly backed up by every CMM free spell. Pillowforted up until turn 9. Cast Silence, Super State, and Tainted Strike for game after contributing nothing to the match.

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>Only commander I wanted to build from spidershit is 30 dollars and not going down
Guess I'll scratch that deck off the list.

>>96606744
which one

>>96606656
He is weaker than numerous GCs

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>>96606754
Why the FUCK is he still thirty (30) US DOLLARYDOOS? Who is using him?

>>96606760
Spider-Man is hugely popular as a collector set. It outsold Final Fantasy but everyone is pretending it flopped.

>>96606766
All the spider-symbol cards are overpriced as fuck thanks to artificial scarcity
>lmao event deck exclusive commanders bro
I hate WOTC

>>96606766
>It outsold Final Fantasy
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahAHAAHAHAHAHAH

>>96606773
sorry, welcome deck* I am blinded by annoyance.

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>>96606766

>>96606656
How does he wipe his but?

>>96606656
eh, chud? you are not allowed to win before turn 6

>>96606797
with liliana's mouth

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>>96606371

>>96606766
If that were the case wotc would be screaming it from every roof in the world.

95% of the difficulty in EDH is building a deck that is fun to play AGAINST

>>96606916
why would you possibly care about that?

>>96606921
ask that question to the first post in the thread

>>96605768
the wincon is my opponents scooping
t. zedruu player

>>96606916
Yes. When I first started getting into the format all my decks were cancerous slop piles where I would lock people out from interacting with me and use obscure op cards nobody knew about while turbo ramping and tutoring into my wincon. Hyper efficient turn 5-7 wins were the norm even with bad opening hands. But as I played more randoms at the LGS's with similar decks I began to realize that that style of gameplay just isn't fun. The guy with the soulful stompy deck just had to sit there getting shit on by combofaggotry.

I switched to decks that turn things sideways and found some like minded players and the games improved immeasurably.

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Fav Grixis commander? Looking for inspirations

>>96606999
grixis is the only shard that I've not build (btw i dislike the tarkir 3 color combos intensely and really like the shards from alara) but I've been wanting to make a timmy Zevlor deck where I copy annoying shit for big mana and I also win with the blue epic spell

I heard someone say gwenom was the most interesting commander from the set
like really? it's just another removal checkem KOS legendary number 59 with the most generic cheating goodstuff in to play ability ever

>like to play a Krenko deck because it's dead simple and was pretty cheap to build
>friend constantly says Krenko os for shitters, it annoys everyone when you have to keep track of your goblins, etc
Is he right? I just like having a bunch of funny little guys who basically tackle eldritch horrors and hit their knees with clubs.

>>96607063
your friend is wrong
and krenko is pretty all or nothing, either you swarm people and kill them once you hit critical mass, or krenko gets removed and you do nothing

I really wish WotC would print more Shadowspear effects. This and Nowhere to Run are pretty based, but they make good ways to get around Hexproof + Indestructible shenanigans without actually wiping the board.

>>96607063
>annoying when you have to keep track of the goblins
That's on the pilot first and foremost, but it's also on the other players to track threats. At least, until you swing. Then, math is for blockers.

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>>96607080
Fuck I forgot the pic.
I fuckin love this guy.

>>96607086
Is there a better way of doing goblin math so I don't waste time?

>>96605754
>selling my entire MtG collection to buy a VEPR-12
It’s a win-win situation!

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Is this MLD therefore bracket 4, or does land denial mean reducing the amount of mana my opponents can produce?

>>96606797
very carefully

>>96607132
I would say no because you can still tap for mana and even the right color

>>96607132
This is not MLDenial. The only thing being denied mana-wise is shit like coffers/cradle/nykthos.

>>96606604
P-please no more

>>96607063
he used maybe the most stupid reasoning but your friend is right in krenko being for shitters. it's never not combo

>>96607151
those are considered mana abilities so they work

>>96607132
this is mass land denial. nowhere in the term does it say you have to deny mana. this denies land abilities in general which is a nono

>>96607132
I mean it turns off fetch lands so a WUBRG player might cry salty salty tears at you but generally no

from wotc:
"These cards regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them."

Blood sun doesn't do any of these things so you're good

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>ramps morph-casting (because you cast it as a 2/2 with no abilities)
>grants evasion to morphs
Is this a good morph commander?

>>96607179
>GW
no

>>96607174
>have a suite of fetches for perfect 5 color mana
Blood sun becomes an obligation at that point, greedy mana bases deserve a game or two of suffering

>>96607187
trvth nvke
yet another reason to run aven mindcensor in all your decks
love that lil nigga

>>96607161
>hating advanced goblin combos
Just because I can abuse stuff like recruiter and snoop doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

>>96607190
this and oppo agent. it's so funny they tried their best to make 5 color piles thrive but forgot search deniers

>>96606549
>thought the art was her back flipping out of a window
>buildings in the background are right side up
>she's jumping through a skylight
has this bitch never hear of a staircase?

>>96606105
The clue is in the tagline
>ramp ramp gyruda
You play a bunch of mana rocks, you play Gyruda, you mill into a creature card that says “this creature enters as a copy of another target creature” or similar, and then you gyruda all over them again, and again, and again.
Sensei’s Diving top is a must-include

>>96606441
>pic
These memes never make any fucking sense cos he’s wearing the sonichu medallion in them

>>96606474
The format would have to be so powercrept for “pay any amount of life and draw that many cards” to be acceptable

I don’t have many cards in physical so my only commander deck is a scuffed Elenda Dusk Rose deck.

>>96607132
>Is this MLD therefore bracket 4,
Is the bracket system an online only thing at this point? I go to a lot of shops for reasons and i really havnt heard anyone mention that retarded system in months