Lorwyn Eclipsed edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96600390>TQFuck UB, what are you hoping to see in Lorwyn Eclipsed?
>>96606362>TQA card that powercreeps TOR.
>>96606362>TQFor tribal decks to actually be playable.
Leaker here, this card will play a very important role in the Lorwyn story.
>>96606362>Flash FlyingHe flashes in a flyer
>>96606362A great art style and whimsical tone.
>>96606362>TQ Good Merfolk cards.
Of all the things, why did they pick this art for Lightning Bolt?
>>96606513there is lightning in the art
>Hobbit setWho are they going to black this time?
>>96606362>TQBeen running the numbers since pre-EOE, and I don't think anything will significantly improve insect tribal unless there's either a 4/5-color changeling in standard that gives a creature type of your choice tons of bonuses, something that gives tons of bonuses for shared creature types in general, or a reanimation/cheat card that needs a certain number of creatures that share a type with it (e.g., Cryptid Gateway).
>>96606513Wish they went with this for the main set.
Imagine the smell.
>>96606669I always wondered, why is she a wizard? Isn't she based on the lady of the lake?
>>96606513Thunder has been a spell since FF1, literally 30 years of Thunder spells to pick from, and there is even a famous sidequest in FFX, one of the most well-known FF games, where you have to literally dodge 200 lightning bolts, but they went with an electrical current running through some fucking totem pole from FF13, a game known only for Lightning porn. It really is baffling.
>>96606543A few elvesSmaugSome dwarfs, even tho a double handicap might be too much even for WOTCYouEvery UB enjoyer
>>96606733They made her a merfolk, and she's a merfolk with magic powers, so she's a wizard I guess.
>>96606362Are all the faeries going to have noseless emoji faces now?
>>96606513the FF tta set is pure nonsense, they put Necron's concept art on a dark ritual and used literal in game screenshots for cards
>>96606834I like the Ragavan Zidane.The art is lazy but I can't stand Ragavan or Kaladesh.
wotc shills arent going to like this one
>>96606849There are a handful of good fits in the whole thing, but most of them suck ass
>>96606849its not lazy, its just concept art
Next year you are getting another Marvel set, LOTR 2: Hobbit boogaloo and TNMT how this makes you feel?
>>96606910Just slapping concept art on a card is pretty lazy.
>>96606924Also possibly Star Trek.
are you as upset as Reddit for mutavault tokens?
>>96606930its wizard of the coast way so it fits
>>96606944I think Treasures were one of the biggest fucking mistakes in the history of the game and token lands are basically them trying to do it right, but it is still a terrible idea.
>>96606944so they finally figured out a way to conjure in paper magic huh
>>96606944Wouldn't it be more flavorful if this thing created the Mutavault token when it dies?
>>96606944I am. Reading the card should explain the card.
>>96606990That's not very FIRE. In fact, maybe it should also create a token when it attacks desu.
>>96606362Expect: more 'memberriesHope: there's no hope.
The way things are going I expect MH4 in 2026 with a card called Son of Goblin Guide, R, 2/3 with Haste, when this creature deals combat damage to an opponent create a tapped Mountain token basic land, Sacrifice a Mountain: Exile the top 2 cards of your library, until the end of your next turn you may play those cards
>>96607011>Mutable Explorer Master>When this creature enters or attacks, create a Mutable Explorer token
>>96607071make it 1r and it's gonna happen
>>96606944I think I will play slesnya humans if pioneer ever comes back
new combo deck just dropped https://moxfield.com/decks/uibrZ2D-2kqz3fyn2e5eWg
>>96606924I feel numb.
>>96606944Nope. Seems neat. >>96607008Having flashbacks to Trample not gaining reminder text until like Tenth Edition.>>96606362>TQFlash FlyingGay faerie and elf worldSales to flop Typal Planeswalker Needle Drop reprintClash not coming backLess racism than the first visitSomehow Colefenor returnedA boggart riding a pig
>>96607008The normal-frame version will probably have an explanation of what a Mutavault is in reminder text, similar to that commander-only card that makes tarmogoyf tokens.Still, I would've preferred if they stuck to this approach.
>>96607008>Reading the card should explain the card.Speaking of Lorwyn...
>>96607208Name all the modes, out loud, right now.If you fail, I'll stub your toe at some point.
>>96606944Why would this be in Green? Why would cost 3 to make only a useless colorless land? Also isn’t this effect risky considering Annex still exist in Standard?
>>96607217Tap your dudescounter target spelldraw a cardBounce somethingJackie Chan
>>96606924I've come to the realization that they're only bringing back Lorwyn so that they can put Bilbo, Smaug, the dwarves, a Bowmasters reprint, and Another Fucking Gandalf in the collector boosters.
>>96607238Quick, does tap your dudes mode target the opponent or not?
I'm already excited.
>>96606865>WotC is quaking in their boots, one and a half draft pods are playing a format nobody cares aboutGod you're so fucking stupid. My local oathbreaker scene is about this size and it's FUCKING OATHBREAKER.
>>96606944>>96607277FUCKING SCRYFALL UPDATE THE SPOILERS
>>96607258Guessing it's "tap all creatures your opponent's control"
>>96607294We don't have 100% confirmation that these are real yet.
>>96606865Congratulations on barely breaching Spiderman prerelease numbers, anonI'm proud of you
>>96607307
>>96607297That's right boy. Next time you won't get off so easily.
>>96607033This. If the leaks are real then the set is just going to be "Hey! Remember Lorwyn? Here are 300+ references to remind you!" at best.
I’m a little surprised they went with TDFC—I expected MDFC specifically to contrast with Innistrad’s implementation of day and night.
>>96607399I'll take memberberries about actual good Magic sets than more UB. Besides, Tarkir: Dragonstorm shows that you can do memberberries while still introducing new stuff and making a good set. Plus, it's Lorwyn, which means no humans.
>>96607399First Looks for returns often show off things that are meant to be evocative of the original set, that won't be the ENTIRE set.
>>96606362>The Tokens created by Bitterbloom Bearer aren't RoguesSo close to perfection...
>>96606865>Perma malding chuddyAin't gonna play this format now ngl
Bring him back
>>96607496We'll probably get a few new Scarecrows for the colorless slots, might even get a new Scarecrow commander because why not.
Avatar has not been fully revealed yet.
>>96607523No one cares.Fuck Avatar.Give me Lorwyn.
>>96607277green devotion bros, we are so back
>Legendary scarecrowOh no
>>96607526Ok but Lorwyn comes out next year.
>>96607529Are you retarded?
>>96607479The way you consistently get pissed off about it is making me interested in playing it.
>>96606944Jesus fucking fuck nuWotC is SO shit at design this is one of the most vomit-inducing pieces of shit I have ever seen
>Old card, but power crept>Vomit-slathered design monstrosity so bad that it could make Foegod, Master of Iron cringe to death.Yeah ok nuLorwyn's confirmed for shitWelp, there goes that.
>>96607236There will be plenty of cheap changelings for Annex and none of them will matter that much.
>>96607125I had my eye on Carnage as having potential but never ended up testing anything because the set is shit and lame and retarded.
>>96607676sorry chud, but the enjoying things will continue.
>>96607701>Create a tapped Mutavault token.>Create a tapped Mutavault token.>Create a tapped Mutavault token.>Create a tapped Mutavault token.>Create a tapped Mutavault token.>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
THE TOKEN HAS SUMMONING SICKNESS WOTC IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ETB TAPPED
>>96607125Really like the idea behind this deck, Tinybones Joins Up being the kill condition is very good deckbuilding, it lets you discard either of the combo pieces if you need to and it's also a 1-for-1I'm not sold on Thieves Guild Enforcer, even if you can search it of Lively Dirge, it's not a card I would like to have in Grixis Midrange, I think a singleton Sheoldred would be much better.
>>96607728No it doesn't, it's a land.
does web slinging have speed restrictions?
>When this creature transforms, venture in to the Mutavault
>>96607759>Manifest Mutavault
>>96607762>this ability only triggers once each turn
Just release the Avatar spoilers already
>>96607826>When you draw your second card each turn or cast your second spell each turn for the second time each turn, cloak dread mutated onto target creature. That creature becomes a Mutavault in addition to its other names. This ability triggers only once each turn.
>>96607738
>>96607728Prevents you from getting back one mana I guess. Would be really good with clone effects if it didn't I believe.
one step closer to hearthstone nonsense
>>96607872Anon, Magic is the TCG we compare other games doing retarded shit to now. Hearthstone is a cut above this trash heap.
>>96606513>>96606736maybe they went full on-the-nose because FF13's MC is literally called Lightning?either way yeah its bad.>>96607529>Mana symbols in text boxes of permanents you control, such as activation costs or the big mana symbols on basic lands, do not count toward your devotion to any color.
>Instant Ramen>Hot Dog Cart>Create a tapped Mutavault token
>>96607872Quest for the Mutavault1Enchantment QuestQuest (If it's your first turn, you may reveal one Quest from outside the game. If you do, put it in your hand. Chapters trigger at the end of your turn.)Whenever a Mutavault you control enters, put a quest counter on ~As long as ~ has 2 or more quest counters, Mutavault creatures you control have +3/+3 and trample
>>96607899yeah, nah. MTG has fallen from higher high, but HS is absolutely rock bottom of retardedness
>>96607926This. A game that cant even work IRL because of the amount of retarded RNG is a terrible game.
>>96607926>MTG has fallen from higher high, but HS is absolutely rock bottom of retardednessHS does not have UBBut MTG does have Alchemy and HS mechanics.HS is better than MTG.
>>96607946>HS does not have UBlol
>>96607969All Blizzard IPs anon.Which MTG has too with Forgotten Realms lmao. And Enter the Dungeon was worse than any mechanic Hearthstone has ever introduced.
>>96607946HS is literally entirely Alchemy. Magic is the one with non-Alchemy.
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>>96607989Every bad thing Hearthstone has done, Magic has also done.Magic has done bad things that Hearthstone has not done.This is extremely simple logic.
So is true… I had some hopes for Lorwyn but i see fucking JOTC just can’t design anymore…
>>96607995>Every good thing Hearthstone has done, Magic has also done>Magic has done good things that Hearthstone has not doneFixed that for you
>>96608008We're talking about nuMagic anon. Magic being good in the neolithic age has nothing to do with that.
>>96608049>We're talking about nuMagic anonYes, and?
>>96608062Name one good thing in nuMagic.
>>96607743It's an alt. cost to cast the spell, so it follows all the normal timing rules so it's sorcery speed. Only thing that would change such is giving them flash.
>>96608066Better limited environment than HSBetter art than HSBetter digital client for f2p than HSHell, even the lore is better than HS, the side stories are pretty decent even when the main ones suck.
>>96608100>Better art than HSoh, anonyou sure are a kidder
>>96608100>better than >better than>better than>better thanAnon I asked for something good. Not what you think is better than HS.Additionally, wrong.>Better limited environment than HSDesigned in 1994. Not nuMagic. nuMagic sets are all fflaming shitpile trashfire limited formats.>Better art than HSl m a o>Better digital client for f2p than HSArena is a spaghetti code mess that can't go 10 minutes without crashing. Your psychosis is on display.