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Lorwyn Eclipsed edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

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>WotC's War Crimes
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>Previously
>>96600390

>TQ
Fuck UB, what are you hoping to see in Lorwyn Eclipsed?
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>>96606362
>TQ
A card that powercreeps TOR.
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>>96606362
>TQ
For tribal decks to actually be playable.
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Leaker here, this card will play a very important role in the Lorwyn story.
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>>96606362
>Flash Flying
He flashes in a flyer
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>>96606362
A great art style and whimsical tone.
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>>96606362
>TQ
Good Merfolk cards.
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Of all the things, why did they pick this art for Lightning Bolt?
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>>96606513
there is lightning in the art
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>Hobbit set
Who are they going to black this time?
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>>96606362
>TQ
Been running the numbers since pre-EOE, and I don't think anything will significantly improve insect tribal unless there's either a 4/5-color changeling in standard that gives a creature type of your choice tons of bonuses, something that gives tons of bonuses for shared creature types in general, or a reanimation/cheat card that needs a certain number of creatures that share a type with it (e.g., Cryptid Gateway).
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>>96606513
Wish they went with this for the main set.
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Imagine the smell.
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>>96606669
I always wondered, why is she a wizard? Isn't she based on the lady of the lake?
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>>96606513
Thunder has been a spell since FF1, literally 30 years of Thunder spells to pick from, and there is even a famous sidequest in FFX, one of the most well-known FF games, where you have to literally dodge 200 lightning bolts, but they went with an electrical current running through some fucking totem pole from FF13, a game known only for Lightning porn. It really is baffling.
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>>96606543

A few elves
Smaug
Some dwarfs, even tho a double handicap might be too much even for WOTC
You
Every UB enjoyer
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>>96606733
They made her a merfolk, and she's a merfolk with magic powers, so she's a wizard I guess.
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>>96606362
Are all the faeries going to have noseless emoji faces now?
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>>96606513
the FF tta set is pure nonsense, they put Necron's concept art on a dark ritual and used literal in game screenshots for cards
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>>96606834
I like the Ragavan Zidane.
The art is lazy but I can't stand Ragavan or Kaladesh.
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wotc shills arent going to like this one
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>>96606849
There are a handful of good fits in the whole thing, but most of them suck ass
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>>96606849
its not lazy, its just concept art
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Next year you are getting another Marvel set, LOTR 2: Hobbit boogaloo and TNMT how this makes you feel?
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>>96606910
Just slapping concept art on a card is pretty lazy.
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>>96606924
Also possibly Star Trek.
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are you as upset as Reddit for mutavault tokens?
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>>96606930
its wizard of the coast way so it fits
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>>96606944
I think Treasures were one of the biggest fucking mistakes in the history of the game and token lands are basically them trying to do it right, but it is still a terrible idea.
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>>96606944
so they finally figured out a way to conjure in paper magic huh
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>>96606944
Wouldn't it be more flavorful if this thing created the Mutavault token when it dies?
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>>96606944
I am. Reading the card should explain the card.
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>>96606990
That's not very FIRE. In fact, maybe it should also create a token when it attacks desu.
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>>96606362
Expect: more 'memberries
Hope: there's no hope.
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The way things are going I expect MH4 in 2026 with a card called Son of Goblin Guide, R, 2/3 with Haste, when this creature deals combat damage to an opponent create a tapped Mountain token basic land, Sacrifice a Mountain: Exile the top 2 cards of your library, until the end of your next turn you may play those cards
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>>96607011
>Mutable Explorer Master
>When this creature enters or attacks, create a Mutable Explorer token
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>>96607071

make it 1r and it's gonna happen
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>>96606944
I think I will play slesnya humans if pioneer ever comes back
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new combo deck just dropped
https://moxfield.com/decks/uibrZ2D-2kqz3fyn2e5eWg
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>>96606924
I feel numb.
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>>96606944
Nope. Seems neat.

>>96607008
Having flashbacks to Trample not gaining reminder text until like Tenth Edition.

>>96606362
>TQ
Flash Flying
Gay faerie and elf world
Sales to flop
Typal Planeswalker
Needle Drop reprint
Clash not coming back
Less racism than the first visit
Somehow Colefenor returned
A boggart riding a pig
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>>96607008
The normal-frame version will probably have an explanation of what a Mutavault is in reminder text, similar to that commander-only card that makes tarmogoyf tokens.
Still, I would've preferred if they stuck to this approach.
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>>96607008
>Reading the card should explain the card.
Speaking of Lorwyn...
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>>96607208
Name all the modes, out loud, right now.
If you fail, I'll stub your toe at some point.
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>>96606944
Why would this be in Green? Why would cost 3 to make only a useless colorless land? Also isn’t this effect risky considering Annex still exist in Standard?
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>>96607217
Tap your dudes
counter target spell
draw a card
Bounce something
Jackie Chan
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>>96606924
I've come to the realization that they're only bringing back Lorwyn so that they can put Bilbo, Smaug, the dwarves, a Bowmasters reprint, and Another Fucking Gandalf in the collector boosters.
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>>96607238
Quick, does tap your dudes mode target the opponent or not?
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I'm already excited.
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>>96606865
>WotC is quaking in their boots, one and a half draft pods are playing a format nobody cares about
God you're so fucking stupid. My local oathbreaker scene is about this size and it's FUCKING OATHBREAKER.
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>>96606944
>>96607277
FUCKING SCRYFALL UPDATE THE SPOILERS
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>>96607258
Guessing it's "tap all creatures your opponent's control"
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>>96607294
We don't have 100% confirmation that these are real yet.
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>>96606865
Congratulations on barely breaching Spiderman prerelease numbers, anon
I'm proud of you
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>>96607307
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>>96607297
That's right boy. Next time you won't get off so easily.
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>>96607033
This. If the leaks are real then the set is just going to be "Hey! Remember Lorwyn? Here are 300+ references to remind you!" at best.
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I’m a little surprised they went with TDFC—I expected MDFC specifically to contrast with Innistrad’s implementation of day and night.
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>>96607399
I'll take memberberries about actual good Magic sets than more UB.
Besides, Tarkir: Dragonstorm shows that you can do memberberries while still introducing new stuff and making a good set. Plus, it's Lorwyn, which means no humans.
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>>96607399
First Looks for returns often show off things that are meant to be evocative of the original set, that won't be the ENTIRE set.
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>>96606362
>The Tokens created by Bitterbloom Bearer aren't Rogues
So close to perfection...
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>>96606865
>Perma malding chuddy
Ain't gonna play this format now ngl
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Bring him back
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>>96607496
We'll probably get a few new Scarecrows for the colorless slots, might even get a new Scarecrow commander because why not.
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Avatar has not been fully revealed yet.
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>>96607523
No one cares.
Fuck Avatar.
Give me Lorwyn.
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>>96607277
green devotion bros, we are so back
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>Legendary scarecrow
Oh no
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>>96607526
Ok but Lorwyn comes out next year.
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>>96607529
Are you retarded?
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>>96607479
The way you consistently get pissed off about it is making me interested in playing it.
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>>96606944
Jesus fucking fuck nuWotC is SO shit at design this is one of the most vomit-inducing pieces of shit I have ever seen
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>Old card, but power crept
>Vomit-slathered design monstrosity so bad that it could make Foegod, Master of Iron cringe to death.

Yeah ok nuLorwyn's confirmed for shit
Welp, there goes that.
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>>96607236
There will be plenty of cheap changelings for Annex and none of them will matter that much.
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>>96607125
I had my eye on Carnage as having potential but never ended up testing anything because the set is shit and lame and retarded.
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>>96607676
sorry chud, but the enjoying things will continue.
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>>96607701
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
>Create a tapped Mutavault token.
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THE TOKEN HAS SUMMONING SICKNESS WOTC IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ETB TAPPED
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>>96607125
Really like the idea behind this deck, Tinybones Joins Up being the kill condition is very good deckbuilding, it lets you discard either of the combo pieces if you need to and it's also a 1-for-1
I'm not sold on Thieves Guild Enforcer, even if you can search it of Lively Dirge, it's not a card I would like to have in Grixis Midrange, I think a singleton Sheoldred would be much better.
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>>96607728
No it doesn't, it's a land.
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does web slinging have speed restrictions?
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>When this creature transforms, venture in to the Mutavault
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>>96607759
>Manifest Mutavault
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>>96607762
>this ability only triggers once each turn
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Just release the Avatar spoilers already
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>>96607826
>When you draw your second card each turn or cast your second spell each turn for the second time each turn, cloak dread mutated onto target creature. That creature becomes a Mutavault in addition to its other names. This ability triggers only once each turn.
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>>96607738
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>>96607728
Prevents you from getting back one mana I guess. Would be really good with clone effects if it didn't I believe.
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one step closer to hearthstone nonsense
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>>96607872
Anon, Magic is the TCG we compare other games doing retarded shit to now. Hearthstone is a cut above this trash heap.
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>>96606513
>>96606736
maybe they went full on-the-nose because FF13's MC is literally called Lightning?
either way yeah its bad.
>>96607529
>Mana symbols in text boxes of permanents you control, such as activation costs or the big mana symbols on basic lands, do not count toward your devotion to any color.
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>Instant Ramen
>Hot Dog Cart
>Create a tapped Mutavault token
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>>96607872
Quest for the Mutavault
1
Enchantment Quest
Quest (If it's your first turn, you may reveal one Quest from outside the game. If you do, put it in your hand. Chapters trigger at the end of your turn.)
Whenever a Mutavault you control enters, put a quest counter on ~
As long as ~ has 2 or more quest counters, Mutavault creatures you control have +3/+3 and trample
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>>96607899
yeah, nah.
MTG has fallen from higher high, but HS is absolutely rock bottom of retardedness
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>>96607926
This. A game that cant even work IRL because of the amount of retarded RNG is a terrible game.
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>>96607926
>MTG has fallen from higher high, but HS is absolutely rock bottom of retardedness
HS does not have UB
But MTG does have Alchemy and HS mechanics.

HS is better than MTG.
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>>96607946
>HS does not have UB
lol
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>>96607969
All Blizzard IPs anon.
Which MTG has too with Forgotten Realms lmao. And Enter the Dungeon was worse than any mechanic Hearthstone has ever introduced.
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>>96607946
HS is literally entirely Alchemy. Magic is the one with non-Alchemy.
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home.
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>>96607989
Every bad thing Hearthstone has done, Magic has also done.
Magic has done bad things that Hearthstone has not done.
This is extremely simple logic.
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So is true… I had some hopes for Lorwyn but i see fucking JOTC just can’t design anymore…
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>>96607995
>Every good thing Hearthstone has done, Magic has also done
>Magic has done good things that Hearthstone has not done
Fixed that for you
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>>96608008
We're talking about nuMagic anon. Magic being good in the neolithic age has nothing to do with that.
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>>96608049
>We're talking about nuMagic anon
Yes, and?
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>>96608062
Name one good thing in nuMagic.
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>>96607743
It's an alt. cost to cast the spell, so it follows all the normal timing rules so it's sorcery speed. Only thing that would change such is giving them flash.
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>>96608066
Better limited environment than HS
Better art than HS
Better digital client for f2p than HS
Hell, even the lore is better than HS, the side stories are pretty decent even when the main ones suck.
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>>96608100
>Better art than HS
oh, anon
you sure are a kidder
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>>96608100
>better than
>better than
>better than
>better than
Anon I asked for something good. Not what you think is better than HS.

Additionally, wrong.
>Better limited environment than HS
Designed in 1994. Not nuMagic. nuMagic sets are all fflaming shitpile trashfire limited formats.
>Better art than HS
l m a o

>Better digital client for f2p than HS
Arena is a spaghetti code mess that can't go 10 minutes without crashing. Your psychosis is on display.



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