Whenever I start a ttrpg group IRL, I end up meeting people who are extremely left wing. I'm not even talking slightly. Nearly everyone I find turns out to be totally over-the-top. We're talking furries, commies - and worse. I don't mind being friends with people who are of a different political opinion from me. But nearly everyone I meet in these circles eventually turns out to be cartoonishly onions, and totally redditbrained. I find this to be true no matter the system - D&D, VTM, Pathfinder... How do you find tolerable, normal folk for your ttrpgs?
>>96611419It's always been that way, you're the odd one newfag
>>96611426Never claimed it was ever different. Learn to read
>>96611426Lol no, ever hear of grognards?
What are the "reddit rained" people even doing that makes you hate them so much?Also, what's worse than furries?
>>96611419RPGs attract social outcasts, retards, autismos, political deviants, man-children, degenerates, extremists, social rejects and failures. News at 11!!!1To answer your question: learn to filter, both online and offline. You have to go through hundreds of other RPGers to get the 4 you'll actually enjoy playing with. There's no secret formula, it's all a matter of winnowing.
>>96611419>redditbrainedWhat does this buzzword even mean?
Only you know why your brain is infested with penises, nogames
>>96611419Usually by avoiding fags like you, OP.
>D&DGigapozzed.>VTMPozzed since the inception.>PathfinderIt's called Pozzfinder for a reason.A very useful heuristic to establish with your tabletop group: are people comfortable with 3rd parties being referred to as "niggers", "faggots", or, in case of exceptional jeetery, "niggerfaggots"? Anyone who takes offense to that has clearly lost the plot and needs to be euthanised immediately.
>>96611499>>96611500>>96611502You look and act like picrel>>96611490Just typical PC babble constantly. I just want to play some games without hearing about everyone's favourite gay latinx werewolf romantasy novel. I don't want to have to smile and nod while people drone on about how powerful and progressive the new 5e sourcebook is.>>96611516What is the discerning aryan gentleman's system of choice?
>>96611648>What is the discerning aryan gentleman's system of choice?DCC, ACKS, MoSP, Conan 2d20, Crimson Dragon, RIFTS(tm), or if you want to go full-Varg then MyFarog v2.0.
>>96611648>What is the discerning aryan gentleman's system of choice?Perfect system doesn't exist. But you'll find less retards playing GURPS (the system punishes you for being retarded). Warhammer RPGs used to be a fairly decent thing, but I don't know how awful they're today with JewDubs hard pivot towards serving the Poz. D&D got pozzed from the top down and there's no way Warhammer isn't going to suffer the same fate.
>>96611648>You look and act like picrelAh, so you're angry about something that doesn't exist. Have sex.
>>96611724> >You look and act like picrel>Ah, so you're angry about something that doesn't exist. Have sex.
>>96611419>But nearly everyone I meet in these circles eventually turns out to be cartoonishly onions, and totally redditbrained.
>>96611679Varg's made a new game, it's called Reconquest. But I don't know if it's going to find any market aside from Burzum fans.
>>96611648>I just want to play some games without hearing about everyone's favourite gay latinx werewolf romantasy novel. I don't want to have to smile and nod while people drone on about how powerful and progressive the new 5e sourcebook is.did any of this actually happen or are you making up bogeymen?
>>96611798>did any of this actually happenFound the nogames.
>>96611648>What is the discerning aryan gentleman's system of choice?None if you're a true rightwing chad. You're above and beyond nerd shit and should be more focused on balancing your 401k and paying bills.>D-dats a wagecuck!That's being a grownup little manchild! It's what (You) should have been training to be instead of spending all of your life trying to git gud on halo!
>>96611805no like those specific examples, it sounds like a nogames making up parodies of redditors in his head
>>96611419Pretty much everyone who is high IQ thinks the government is bullshit.
Right wingers typically lack imagination and are therefore not fit for TTRPGs. I suggest you play wargames or boardgames instead.
>>96611679pro-tip: never go full Varg. >>96611790Remigration to this system will happen. Also, SONG OF SWORDS, nigga. Read it. It's the Mountain Dew Blade of FRPGs.
>>96611648You look and sound like a retard, nogames fag.
>>96611805Good job finding yourself.
>>96611419>Whenever I start a ttrpg group IRL, I end up meeting people who are extremely left wing.This was always the case but it started getting bad in 2014 and worse in 2016. You people were warned, repeatedly, but always trotted out the same fauxbertarian excuse cope and stuck your head in the sand. Now the game is full of even more of these people, AND the products endorsed it, because you people weren't loud enough online. You need to be luring danger-haired people into games you run and giving them a shitty experience so they stop playing. Gatekeep HARD. Could have easily been accomplished but you fat fucking fags decided to let it happen. You brought it on yourselves. Not even trolling, you people deserve this shit. You let it happen.
>>96612029If you were not a retarded nogames you would know you can't gatekeep this hobby.
>>96611419I'm surprised you have this problem with IRL players. /tg/ bitches about the influence of trannies and soys but I've always assumed that was confined to online games since it hasn't been my experience at allMy current group definitely trends more to the right than the leftWe've got>An outright fascist - has a translation of Mein Kampf sitting on a shelf in his study alongside a whole row of more obscure authors.>Generally right-wing but doesn't care that much about politics as far as I can tell. Low-key racist against anyone browner than her.>A guy who's always eager to criticize the two-party system but I'd peg him as far-right on race and social issues, more left-wing on the environment and the economy. I guess it's impossible not to support generous government funding of healthcare when you're a doctor. >His wife. Politically cares about the environment and animal welfare>anything else. "I'm not racist but if I could press a button and wipe out 90% of the population of Africa, China and India, I would. The planet would be better off.">Myself. Broadly libertarian, formerly ancap. >A girl. Also libertarian. No, not liberal. >A guy. Says he doesn't care about politics but votes right. No furries. No commies. Everyone works full-time except the lib girl who's a post-doc student. Then there was my high school group and we were all chanposting shitlords. Politically whatever but all racist, misogynist and generally fuck the government. And I can't say any of us have changed that much despite the fact we're in our late-20s now and all started to get married or have kids.Most of my other groups I've played with didn't last long enough for us to start talking politics. There was one guy who stood out as cartoonishly onions though - looked like reddit personified (but SE Asian), fervent communist, doing a phd on underrepresented voices in video games or some shit, fetish for femdom and giantesses.
>>96611419Most hard right people get excommunited from groups because they have no capacity for acting like normal people. Ive played with groups consisting of these people and games were mostly just friendly fire, fucking with each other, Sam Hyde quotes and getting into arguments. Its fun in a way, but I definitely didn't feel like I was playing a game. >inb4 thats based!
>>96611419It is the case, needing to think and read tend to make folks lean more leftIn spite of the summerfags, /tg/ tends to still poll left(About identically to /d/ to truly no one's surprise)
>>96612100yes you can retard
>>96611648>What is the discerning aryan gentleman's system of choice?Rahowa
>>96612429If it was possible your retarded nogames ass would be somewhere else. You retarded faggot.
>>96611419>How do you find tolerable, normal folk for your ttrpgs?You don't. All sci-fi, fantasy, and historical hobbies are now infested with blue-haired casuals.
>>96611419my lgs is infected with loser 30y olds who think they are better than others because they inherited some money or a home or two to rent. A putrid filth of "apolitical" people, who are right wingers at heart. They are so so much worse than reddit, i wish i got reddit
>>96612000thank
>>96611419My own group is a pretty even split, politcally. I've gamed with pretty socially conservative Catholics, Mormons, and Muslims.
>>96612525Been here since the early 00s so I'm not the problem trust me.
>>96611419Is because it takes a minimun amount of empathy putting yourself in another person/creature's shoes and imagine how they would act and feel, that's why right wing players usually obsess with either only playing a very narrow type of character (the meme is usually human, male, fighter, white, etc) or not having any roleplay at all only focusing on mechanics or dungeon crawling.
>>96611419It seems like you really do mind having to interact with people of a different political opinion than you. Have you considered killing yourself instead of annoying other people who don't want you in their games because of the foul stench you emit?
Because TTRPGs are about pretending to be someone, or something, you are not
>>96611419>I don't mind being friends with people who are of a different political opinion from me.Fair.>We're talking furries, commies - and worse>turns out to be cartoonishly onions, and totally redditbrained>tolerable, normal folkI see. I'd claim that the problem might be on both sides of the table, but I don't have the training or credentials for that.Let me call the shrink, one moment.Regardless. Have you tried recruiting using filter words? The kind of thing that signals to those of you ilk that you are like them?Maybe something like what >>96616077 is describing.Could also be a question of trying on a different city.Try looking for TTRPG groups on facebook or whatever it is people use today.>>96614532Seems like you and your group aren't one dimensional the way OP, and everybody he meets seemingly, seems to be.
>>96612101>I'm surprised you have this problem with IRL players.You're surprised because OP doesn't actually play games, he makes this thread every 2-3 days
>>96611812>>96612130>>96616077>what are tiefling players>what are kobold players>what are half-elf players>what are half-orc (especially female) players>what are halfling players>the sheer amount of furriesbut yes be purposely disengenous like the slimy lying misery absorbed fags you are at heart
>>96611446Grognards have always been basically reddit libs, also before reddit
>>96611419Why is Hollywood so left wing? Why are there so many anarchist authors, proportional to the miniscule number of anarchists in the general population? Why do TTRPGs made by rightoids all amount to shittier versions of games from thirty-plus years ago?Creativity is a left wing trait, and TTRPGs are a fundamentally creative medium, so you see far more leftie players. Rightoid players are all munchkins and That Guys. Either deal with it, or get really into fantasy football.
>>96616559Whats wrong with those?
>>96616641>Creativity is a left wing traitKek>and TTRPGs are a fundamentally creative mediumKek x2, average player is Chris Chan-tier>so you see far more leftie playersBecause mental illness got arbitrarily classified as left-wing
>>96616720Yes, the fact that rightoids can only use mockery, rather than evidence, is another way their tiny brains are too pathetic to manage to imagine an elf without assistance.
>>96616733This, it's why they spend all their time getting mad about book art rather than just playing games. They are incapable of even using art for different sources as inspiration
>>96616559It's impressive how myopic you've remained despite such diverse socialization.
>>96611419Most people are left wing. You do just about anything and you'll find it infested with them.
>>96616742He is exclusively drawing his knowledge from greentexts he saw reposted on reddit, he has never played a game
>>96611419So far in my group I’ve had>Militant vegan who only showed up to half the sessions before quitting because I made Esmerelda in curse of strahd white>A trans player who has actually been a great player>Someone who said conservatives are all braindead, he has been unemployed for over 10 years and does literally nothing>A non binary college lecturer who promotes DEI programs at his uni. He was a good player, had to quit as our games conflict with his scheduleI’ve been enjoying the games and just don’t talk about politics. I can see what OP means though. Maybe it’s because there is a link between autism and being trans. Maybe it’s because ttrpg players are generally intelligent and/or educated and that skews left. Doesn’t really matter what politics people have as long as they aren’t being a dickhead about it.
>>96611419The answer is, and has always been: people who are well adjusted play with their existing friends and rarely, if ever, introduce randoms into the group. If you aren't well adjusted enough to have friends who are willing to spend an afternoon or evening trying out a TTRPG with you, then you deserve the shitty dregs of society that you have to play with.TTRPGs are not a hobby you should be playing with pick up groups on the regular. They never have been conducive to that format because playing them requires a certain amount of preexisting group trust. The lefty retards have tried to force it into random groups with their bdsm transplanted "safety tools" and it still doesn't work. So either introduce your friends to roleplaying or admit that you're as shitty as the other leftovers you are complaining about
>>96616789My personal opinion is that TTRPGs are "consumable culture" which can be displayed and that appeals to lefty types quite a lot. A LOT of that culture and type of people are all about performative culture and personality. If you're gay and not flamboyant about it, might as well not be gay, type of thing.Not saying its all of them, but it feels either like a sizeable number of them, or, obviously, the most visible ones.
>>96616869I wish people would stop seeing them as a consumer hobby, they make for the worst players
>why is my drama improv group so WOKE!?What a stupid question.
>>96616877Its why I put it in quotesThere's a lot of dumb shit surrounding TTRPGs that are marketed to culture consoomers. Billions of custom dice, stupid fucking 3D printed towers, not to mention the tangential "merch" and oh so quirky slogans and shit on shirts and bags and buttons, worthless centrepice minis that cost an arm and a leg which your players will interact with once. Let alone the absolutely insane shit like custom tables with backlit maps and dice holders and shit.But the actual act of playing TTRPGs might as well cost nothing. PDF of a few books, $10 dice set from a hobby shop and a few writing implements. Sit around a kitchen table and have fun.So the lesson is if you meet someone with any of the consooomer shit you should be wary. Its /possible/ they're just into games and like nice things. But its more likely they're a consoomer with a personality to display. So of course they're actually shitty players, they are doing a performance to back up their purchased culture.
>>96616915I agree with everything except for Minis, they are soulful
>>96611419Entertainment media for better or worse depending on who you ask has always been left wing. Tabletop roleplaying games are no exception to this rule. It is only natural that the majority of consumers would be left leaning. That doesn't mean all of them are mentally ill nutcases. I think you are just having a string of bad luck. Are you hosting these games online? >How do you find tolerable, normal folk for your ttrpgsIf you're hosting your games online learn to read profile pictures. Avoid:>anime>furry>flags>cartoon profile picturesMost of these are profile pictures that the bad leftists use. I only know that greco-roman profile pictures and selfies with sunglasses are the bad kind of right winger giveaways. Wish I knew more.>>96616641>Why is Hollywood so left wing?Hollywood is fucking corrupt. Why would you use this as a good thing?>Why are there so many anarchist authors, proportional to the miniscule number of anarchists in the general population?Because they feel driven to spread their propaganda because they know the general populace is smart enough to recognize that the solution to society's problems isn't to destroy society.And quite frankly most anarchists are just posers and not real ones. >Why do TTRPGs made by rightoids all amount to shittier versions of games from thirty-plus years ago?I genuinely want to know citations. >Creativity is a left wing traitI have never seen an unbiased source confirm or deny this. Would love to see something though. >using RightoidPlease don't. I know it sounds tough to throw insults back but the 'oid' in the insult derives from 'negroid' please don't use racist insults.
>>96611419All the coping and seething ITT from leftroons proves OPs point>>96616763>>96616523You need to dilate. If you don't see the pozzening occurring in every hobby post-2010, you're either nogames or part of the pozzed tide of blue-haired biomass yourself.
>>96611419This isn't a new thing. "Nerd culture" got appropriated by the dangerhair crowd because it's all about wearing labels to them. And it's been this way for like two decades. Back in the nineties vtm larp scene was 99% fat goth chicks and skinny pale guys trying get laid with said fat goth chicks. I'm pretty sure if I went in these days the fat goth chicks would have dicks. And blue hair.You find normal people to play with the same as you always did, by playing with your friends.
>>96616921I'm not big on them personally, but I meant specifically the giant performative ones that don't even really fit on the table. Or the $300 plastic shit that might as well be a dollar store toy that WotC used to sell.Minis, ESPECIALLY ones that you've painted yourself are definitely soulful.
>>96616733>>96616738Samefag seethe.
>>96616926>I have never seen an unbiased source confirm or deny this. Would love to see something though.Google "Openness to Experience", it's one of the Big Five, a set of personality traits which are cross-culturally valid, correlate internally, etc, and it includes the correlation between active imagination, aesthetic sensitivity, and psychological liberalism.Big Five is so firmly established in the literature that it's crazy to argue there's no "unbiased sources" to this effect.Not going to bother dealing with your special pleadings on how all left wing creativity doesn't count, what we should really count is the amazing media produced by The Daily Wire, mongoloid.
>>96611648>You look and act like picrelno one looks and acts like thatthat's why you had to generate it
>>96616934you have to realize these leftist trannies literally have to exist off consensus. If they found themselves alone with their viewpoint they'd probably shoot up a church or kindergarten.
>>96616996Holy projection, batman. This entire thread is literally complaining about having to be around people who think differently from you.
>>96611419GW itself is filled with antifa types.https://spikeybits.com/concern-regarding-a-gw-employees-political-comments/
>>96616967>Google "Openness to Experience", it's one of the Big Five, a set of personality traits which are cross-culturally valid, correlate internally, etc, and it includes the correlation between active imagination, aesthetic sensitivity, and psychological liberalism.I probably won't look it up, but it is good that you provided something. >using mongoloidThere is a stereotype that /pol/acks hold that the left are the real racists, and such language validates such a saying. I know this because I had a /pol/ phase.Either that or you've got some /pol/ demons in ya you need exorcised. Either way I hope you change and grow for the better as a lack of tolerance for people with different opinions is part of why society is going to shit and nothing is untouched. Not even this TTRPG hobby.
>>96616926anime and furry pfps also indicate bad right wingers
>>96617020You're right. I forgot lmoa.
>>96616998Pretty sure the majority concensus from "rightoids" in the thread is that if you just shut up about your views, like we have to, we could stand to be around you.Zoomers might be too young to remember, but there was a time when I didn't know any of my friend's political leanings and that was completely normal.
>>96616932Yes, the famously right wing goth subculture
>>96617018I am a Jew and let me tell you. I would trust my life to some far right chud over antifa and their Muslim terrorist allies, both of whom are far more violent
You guys ever look at the smug arrogance of supposed left leaning posters and just think they have to be /pol/ pretending to be bad leftists?I’m seeing it in this thread and I hope it is the case as it would make the left and lefties like me look less bad we already got enough bad apples as it is.
Would you prefer it be infested with corn?Or wheat?How about lettuce!
>>966170714chan has always been majority libertarian/leftist... They are indistinguishable from nazis on the Israel question... Especially now that the Latino and Arab young men groypers etc have arrived.
>>96616929Sounds like seething and coping from someone else who is also going the way of the dodo. Not proud it's you, but glad there's someone here to be with. At the end of all things.
>>96616869These days perhaps. In the old days it was for autists, rejects, nerds like me with crippling depression and anxiety. Those people are often introverted and intelligent. University educated people skew left, for many reasons I won’t get into. This means a lot of the old people who played might decide to be trans, or follow other extreme left ideologies.The consumer culture fits well with the left’s luxury beliefs. They rarely have to face the devastation caused by their poor policies. But I would argue ttrpgs always skewed left. What’s changed is that the left has gone further and further to the left. For me at least I’ve also seen through life experiences the hypocrisy and hatred the leftists have these days. I’m a closeted conservative. I know if I told people my real beliefs I’d be ostracised and hated. It’s a strange world we live in now.
>>96617027>in the esteem opinion of /pol/tards, if you stopped saying things I disagree with then I wouldn't mind hanging out with youThe prosecution rests.
>>96617018> I probably won't look it up, but it is good that you provided something.Think I figured out why you have never seen an unbiased source on this.> There is a stereotype that /pol/acks hold that the left are the real racists, and such language validates such a saying.I don’t hold to the belief that certain words, by their mere use, make one racist. Context matters. Here, I am using it to defy your obviously bad faith claim that “rightoid” is racist, and in fact, in this context it clearly refers to retardation, not race at all.
>>96617110so you are a tranny who's purposely here to cause the hobby to depopulate. Good to know.
>>96617071All the time. But I also experienced enough real ones who dance their retarded semantics and denial dances before any discourse even starts, trying to convince others what they see and hear doesn't happen, while actively taking part in it. So I'm never sure. Funny thing, in one game I'm part of there people who lean into that stuff and they reference some gay romance novel all the time, so OP isn't even wrong. I don't care as long as it doesn't go too far (and sometimes it definitely does). Everything surrounding it like in this thread is way more grating, because every single topic with these kinda people feels like>The sky is blue.>Nuh uh, you never looked out of the window, you don't even know what the sky is and it was always blellow anyway!There are definitely also baitfags, but even outside of here, as a regular person, you really don't need anyone to make them look bad, they do that themselves just fine.
>>96616559What about them, are you going to elaborate beyond >someone may play this
>>96617294What novel?
The only people I refuse to play with are people with actual non-meme autism because they drag the game to the point of halting it. Otherwise, any regular player can be reason with.Most issues in the table are not politic related and can be found across all sides>wont learn the rules>looks at the phone instead of paying attention>lack of consistency showing up>don't respects GMs rulings that kind of stuff>>96611419You're not as objective as you think you are OP.
>>96611419Only left wing people can appreciate art and acting. Rightoids have that part of their brains burned out by corporate propaganda.
>>96617157>>96617400The thing is that as someone who had a pol phase. Calling the bigots rightoids has an opposite effect. It just makes them laugh at worst because in their minds they’re having an encounter with a bad leftist. I know not all leftists are bad. They just believe in their minds when called rightoids that they’re dealing with a validator of bad leftist stereotypes.
>>96611419People who play TTRPGs read books.
>>96612271>>It is the case, needing to think and read tend to make folks lean more left>STEM snickering>inb4 "stem leans left too!" (left in this sense means "cares about ecology")
>>96617443STEM is gradually getting more right wing as whites are replaced with based Indians
>>96617455STEM is already pretty right wing depending on where you're at. We just get watered down with the Women favored fields in the S part.also >based indiansthe big flush can't come soon enough
>>96617428Alright, so what do you suggest doing as they tell you they are praying for the day they get to legally kill you?
>>96611419Nice try Rajesh, but everyone knows furries are fashy
>>96617482It was being exposed to bad elements that even I had to acknowledge were bad that made me start to grow out of my pol phase.So to answer your question:You don’t let those who want you dead get in power. And you most certainly don’t let those who want to do away with democratic elements like being able to express an opinion get in power.I’m not gonna lie it is a great thing to look at bad elements of your side and try not to be like them. It may even be the cause of some positive growth and self correction.
>>96617525Is really hard when you have right wing commentators saying that having empathy, putting the other cheek and trying to find a middle ground is a bad thing to do. The people we're talking about here consider that a compromise is the same as losing and is their religious imperative to eliminate anything that doesn't fit their worldview.
>>96617581I believe posts like this are what the anon was talking about when he said you should have "self-reflection on your sides worst elements" because now this shit is just sad more than funny.
>>96617428No one is trying to reach these people in online/social-media discussions. Reaching them is not something that can be accomplished. That's not the way that online communication works. Identity politics have been so successfully exploited by some pretty corrupt forces that there simply isn't any conversation you can have online, that's gonna change anyone's mind. If that was possible, we'd be doing it. Lots of people have worked pretty hard to try to figure out how to make progress with these people. It's futile. Calling them names isn't in a hope to reach out to them. It's just all that's left.
>>96617619I really want to love my neighbor, but they do it so damn hard.
>>96617581It was worse elements than your examples that made me grow out of my pol phase. I do implore that you take the time to look at bad elements from your side as it may shake you into being a better person and hopefully a better representation of your political beliefs. Even if it hurts.One thing I do know is that tabletop gaming can be a great bridge between this left wing and right wing divide most of the time. I’ve seen a raging “sjw” become mellow and say her whole radical anarchism was just a phase because she role played some dnd with people who weren’t pol types but they certainly weren’t what would have been called “sjws” back in the day.Quite frankly I think the real culprit may be rising extremism that is poisoning everything it touches including our hobby.
>>96617635>rising extremism that is poisoning everything it touches including our hobby.I mean it's not rocket science. The propaganda isn't an accident. It isn't a biproduct. It's intentional. It's calculated. And it's working.
>>96617645I don’t have a solution to be honest. I’m sorry.
Have tried three online campaigns so far. All of them were full of furries, trans and they/them.
>>96617650There isn't one. It works because people want it to work. We buy into propaganda for the same reason we go to concerts. It feels good to be part of the "in" crowd. Tell someone that they can be worthy and important and that they fit in, if they just agree with you? Bam: you got 'em.
>>96611419
>>96617635I personally do think the rise of political extremism can be traced to the same reason why most young people are single, and a whole host of other issues.We are all drawing in on ourselves and when we do not interact with the other sides best elements, we are only told about their worst by people who want to control us.
>>96617635Have you seen the opposite? /pol/acs becoming less extremist in their views?
>>96617662Most of those are teenagers or young people with the mentality of teens going through a phase. The problem is that these phase goers have too much social power nowadays. It needs to be wrenched away somehow.
>>96617702Hahahaha. Yeah man: the solution to identity politics is to structure power so that only the people we want to have one get a voice.That'll do the fuckin' trick.
>>96617698I see it when i look in the mirror. Does that count?
>>96617708I didn’t look at it from that angle. My mistake. I will cite my shitty teenage self as evidence that teens shouldn’t have too much social power like the ability to ruin lives because you said an opinion you thought was honest on the internet.
>>96617709I mean, we all have a /pol/ face when we are 13, I'm talking about like the other story, people just getting along.
>>96617729No I don’t believe I’ve seen what you’re talking about. Sorry. I got to go now.
>>96611419Being obnoxious causes you to get kicked out and leave groups more frequently, so they're more likely to float around and find stranger's games to play in.
>>96611426
>>96616733>mockery, rather than evidenceOh, my Science!
>>96618105This doesn't disprove the theory.
>>96618139>This doesn't disprove the theory.He said, homosexually.
>>96618309>He said, homosexually.While holding his wife's bull's cock in one hand and browsing reddit on telephone with the other.
>>96618139Nobody owes you a disproval of nonsense you put out into dem airwaves, such as bold claims that men can be women or there's no difference between races. It's absurd on its' face, and what defines "modern Left" is that they've trained themselves to believe in utterly absurd things, vindicating Chesteron (He who believes in nothing can be made to believe in anything).Fortunately, clowning on leftist faggots is even cheaper than being a leftist faggot, so that's a battle you'll keep losing. And traditional Left would have you all mining uranium-rich ores with hand tools by yesterday, by the way.
>>96611648> without hearing about everyone's favourite gay latinx werewolf romantasy novelcould you at least try to be believable next time?
>>96616077Empathy is a sin and you're a sinner too if you think it's necessary for an RPG.
>>96618613https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/gay-werewolvesI'm sure theres at least one latinx werewolf in here somewhere.
>>96618568>out into dem airwaveswhy are you pretending to be an old western character?
>>96611419I haven't ever noticed the political leanings of anyone I've ever recruited for a game. Have you tried not making up shit that never happened, since you've never run nor played anything?
>>96611419Playing games with hot bitches with big ol honkers on the cover seems to help dissuade faggots from joining
>>96616077You have never actually put yourself in the shoes of a non-human creature. You do not, cannot, and never will have any idea of what it's like to be anything other than a human. So not only are you no different from the chuds, you're also a liar, and you're not even good at trolling. Great job, off yourself.
>>96616733intuition, common sense, experience, feeling, racism > science :)
>>96618760>Car Lesbians is making the rounds on social media>80% of the comments on anything that mentions it are "ummm wow, problematic much?" or "typical 4chan mysoggynee"It really does keep the normies out
>>96618774that shit barely even has people on the cover kek
>>96618812>the hole said, using things that would not exist without themSounds like you're upset you were replaced by anime tiddies.
Thanks for proving my point ;)
>>96618812It's always interesting to see this retort when a woman is outed for her comments about sex. The fact you reply in such fashion suggests the previous poster's comments about you being a hole, and your self-worth deriving from said hole, is spot on.Modern society has conditioned you well.
>>96618641>Empathy is a sinThe sad thing is that there are probably some diseased fools out there that actually believe that.
Real communists would throw furfags and other degenerates in the gulag.
>>96618812Triggered femoid detected. Tits of gtfo
;)
>>96618768I can use my imagination, I'm sorry that makes you sour.
>>96618804You could have sex with something that's not a woman.
>>96618999No you can't.
>>96611490not OP, but I've had the incredible displeasure of trying to engage with a D&D club that met at a pub in a big city. It was 5e, so lets get past matters of taste like it being full of loud theater kids playing tea-party with tiefling warlocks that were non-binary, 20% of the attendees were crossdressers and/or bearded ladies, games starting at level 5, and such. I saw Sor-Lock-Adins, too.Within 10 minutes of passively listening to idle talk before game, I caught "Ugh, there's this disgusting bigot that lives near me. Something-something-free palestine, UGH, so-and-so is such a toxic mansplaining gatekeeper, Something something punch nazis, something something fascism, something something white supremacy, people of color people of color people of color." (everyone there was white apart from one blatino, but he was cis and straight so therefore unpopular) They were a caricature of reddit leftists. I tried idly chatting about fantasy novels, but every book they brought up, they had to glowingly mention how "queer" it was, as if this was the main metric of quality.It was really fucking cliquey too, with an identity pecking-order; three times in a row, all the conventional looking dudes were stuck at the third shitty leftovers table because the main tables were only for women, non-binaries, and trannies, and the third-table DM was pretty shit. Like, offensively bad beginner shit.Also, all these people's idea of how to behave came from Critical Role, so even in a one-shot pickup game, they had to talk endlessly about their backstory and character arc or otherwise be obnoxiously self-indulgent, wasting everyone's time. (a game that's fun to watch is not a game that's fun to play. They weren't engaging with the other players, they were performing for an imaginary podcast audience).
>>96616559Yes yes, but have you actually met any of those people in real games that happened? Or are you mad at imaginary things that might happen if you played a game?
>>96619162>ContinuedAlso, sometimes furries keep it to themselves. Leftists think their ideology is the obviously correct one, and also the most popular one, while also being very marginalized and under existential threat by Nazis/Orange Man, so they do the opposite of keeping it to themselves. I've never seen so many white people call eachother white before.Back to matters of taste, they ran Bad Games, bad pacing, bad plotlines, excessive worldbuilding, poor table discipline. I ran a few games, and blew everyone at the table away by my veteran DMing. But I was running with precons because I didn't want to deal with people creating their character at the table, taking up precious time (at best, 3.5 hours) and also didn't want to hear about what color people's eyes were, and it made for a better premise and game design. Since they couldn't bring their own OCs, I had a hard time getting four players (all conventional looking dudes, of course), even though the other tables were over-stuffed.Also, this is petty, but one night when I was at that bar (not participating) I observed an actual biological woman of average attractiveness sitting at the bar with several other fellow players. She was loudly going through Hinge on her phone, mocking the profiles, while there were three conventional-looking dudes around her hoping for a smidge of her attention. She never even looked at any of them, just kept swiping hinge and answering their questions flippantly. One guy asked her if she'd ever been on a Hinge date>Chuh, No! I don't want to get AssaultedThen one guy who looked kinda like charlie day mentioned being gay, and suddenly he had her undivided attention, with a loving, dreamy gaze on her face. Now, call me silly, but eventually the only thing that made me consider continuing to try at this place was that trannies aside, it had a pretty good gender ratio, but it turned out, this was the attitude of the straight women who attend. Fuck. That. Noise.
>>96619162Why didn't the straight male table simply coup the shit DM and institute their own?
>>96619162>>96619217I shortly-after found out that another group at the same bar played DCC, trends slightly older, and even though most of the people there are broadly left-wing, most of the political ones don't make politics the center of their social persona. They also run the sorts of games that are more suited to a pub one-shot. This group was also called Toxic Mansplaining Gatekeepers by the other group, who treated them as some sort of boogeyman.The Leftist 5e group later imploded on itself due to some combination of drama and the organizer guy getting burned out, and now no longer exists. But the DCC group is still going strong, has a healthy influx of new players every now and then.
>>96619217>notice how everyone is gay and trans>they keep talking about media that queer>htero cis dudes get zero attention (even the minority one)>everyone is more focused on socializing than playing a good complex gaydude, you went to an lgbt event not once, multiple times, and didn't even notice.They must have been so weirded out by the autistic chaser that kept crashing their thing and trying to make them play his games like a little kid.
lol you're so fucking mad that you will never be the equal of any straight person
>>96619241Because that was still the best DM they had. Ultimately, that's what I tried to do, but I was invested in my precon scenario model in an effort to smack the brat out of them, so it didn't take. Also, the place was just bad for my mental health.The problem is ultimately that there's been a massive influx of new players, but not enough DMs to run for them or existing players to set a good example, and they've been primed to accuse the existing ones of being mansplaining gatekeepers whenever they don't get their way. The DMs all want to be Matt Mercer and think that if they can't do voices, they can't be a DM, so they don't actually try running. It's like a bunch of kids who only know about sex from porn; they can list every act and position, but only have firsthand experience jerking themselves off, or of trying and failing to do a piledriver anal creampie.
>>96619253It wasn't advertised as such, the main organizer guy was a straight dude.But that's exactly what happens when you get too many LGBTQs Leftist whatevers in one place. They do, in fact, colonize social spaces and exclude the original inhabitants, while endlessly talking about Diversity and Inclusion.
>>96611648I believe the question OP asked was>How do you find tolerable, normal folk for your ttrpgs?You start by being one.
>>96617581This is funny (not haha funny more like how quaint funny) to me because most of the time when I hear center rights talk all they want to do is find common ground, turn the other cheek, and live in peace. Obviously this is just personal experience. But hopefully this will encourage you that "the other side" isn't just crazy people.
>>96619162>>96619217As much as I want to believe this story is fake, it checks out to me. Most people I've met through 5e have been capital L Leftists and some flavor of queer. Now I've had fun at those tables, but I prefer a more autistic, crunchier experience if that's the game I'm playing. Also, it gets tiring when people constantly bring contemporary class/social theory into the game. No I don't want the bad guys to be an exploitative colonizing capitalist conglomerate. No I don't want to party up with your anti-racist Drizzt clone. It's predictable and boring.
>>96616641>Creativity is a left wing trait,
>>96619414>righoids so uncreative they just say your own words back at you and call it their argumentnta but I think he's made his case
>>96618568>petersondidn't read your stupid fake intellectual postall I want to know is: is there a tax I can pay so that I never have to hear from you people ever again?
>>96611419>onionsLight a pan, add olive oil and slowly cook the onionsin a bowl mix 3 eggs, add a pinch of salt, pepperReady a fine slice of blue cheese, quarter the size of your panWhen the onions are golden, add you eggs, cook at medium temp for 45 sec to 1 minutes. Add the cheese and close your omelette Flip it and cook it for 30 secVoilà you got a délicieuse omelette baveuse No to answer your question, this kind of game was created by social outcast and always promote the abolition of the norm. Creating a new world where marginal and let's face it, cringe, geek (as the original term) could prosper and let their imagination run wild. While most where left leaning, not everyone was and despite that they still play together or build game system, reflecting a more nuance worldNowadays, it became mainstream and even more lefty flooded in. Politic is red good blue bad, or red bad blue good with a constant war between both side. It's grim
>>96611805I, for one, have never had anything like that happen, even at cons. The most soilent thing that has happened has been the introduction of the x-card at the start of the session, and then we've just gone through a normal game session. If you can't help going nigger nigger nigger constantly then maybe you will have a problem
>>96612101>A guy who's always eager to criticize the two-party system but I'd peg him as far-right on race and social issues, more left-wing on the environment and the economy. I guess it's impossible not to support generous government funding of healthcare when you're a doctor.This is what an actual centrist looks like to be quite honest
>>96619291Yeah, I guess they are he europeans of hobbies. I hope the experience makes you sympathize with cherokees or something.
>>966192915th edition has existed for longer than the confederacy lasted my guy. Maybe adopt a viable ideology and stop complaining that your failed one doesn't make friends.
>>96617434Gay
>>96611446Grogs are only conservative when it comes to their particular brand of 'tism, they have the exact same demography from a general IRL political perspective as other gamers.
>>96617478STEM is only right wing because those women flavoured fields redefined right wing to mean "cares about evidence" and "uncritically adopts whatever political view is considered mainstream in your social group". Almost all the STEM profs and researches I've met through work and uni have been some variety of leftie or progressive centrist, they just get Unpersoned by the modern left because they don't immediately virtue signal when called upon.You are more alone than you could ever understand anon.
>>96611419If it's any consolation OP, I've noticed it as well. There's a divide in my town between a hobby store that only does wargame and TCG stuff, and an RPG society run out of a support hub for gay people.As a few anons have said: RPGs attract social outcasts and fringe people, and groups that advertise themselves as being welcoming are always going to attract the worst people from all across the spectrum. Learn to filter and keep your gate shut once you have a good group.
>>96617111>For me at least I’ve also seen through life experiences the hypocrisy and hatred the leftists have these days. I’m a closeted conservative. I know if I told people my real beliefs I’d be ostracised and hated. It’s a strange world we live in now.I know the feeling. I get on well with my group and they're genuinely nice people but if I spoke honestly about how I feel about certain topics, it'd cause an upset.
>>96617027the only reason you didn't know the political leaning of your friends is either you werent actually close enough to know or they simply didnt have any and were the typical center-right or center left apolitical late teenagers early adults.If a person actually holds strong political views you will know about it. They really cant hide it, and they wouldnt hide it from their friends either way
It's very simple. It's always been left leaning, but due to the unstable nature of left wing politics (rightoids want things to stay the same ie be conserved, le the left wing wants things to change so are never satisfied with how anything is), it has gotten so extreme and brain rotted that they've turned into a virulent social cancer.Transgenderism has exploded as new subculture and transgenderism is highly correlated with autism. It's effectively a new religious movement where ordination to the priest class is either cutting your dick off or sucking a dick. Then you have a privileged social position where you get to determine what reality is, and the more of a self-mutilated disabled jizz goblin you are the more you are a troon prophet and your word is law. >>96619217 confirms.Edgy 90s atheist liberals, who were the majority of TTRPG/nerd types in the past, pushed for secularisation but didn't understand that nature abhors a vaccuum, and so when they pushed Christianity out of mainstream social respectability, it needed to be replaced with something else. It was replaced with transgenderism/wokeism - and instead of posting on facebook about the bible and how much you're praying for people and how much you love jesus to virtue signal, instead you post about how much you love enabling people to cut off their penis and also brag about how many mental and medical disorders you have.As another anon pointed out, creativity is a trait highly correlated to left wing ideation. The reason that you don't see many right wing people in nerd hobbies is because statistically most right wing people work actual respectable jobs like real adults, ie, they're the actual proletariat that the left pretends to care about. Right wing creatives are effectively daywalkers. However, 90s ultra leftists are now alt right extreme nazis by 2025's standards, so there's way more "right wing" creatives than you may think now.
>>96611419I'll tell you why, cringy as it may sound: Conservative/right-leaning players created their own monster. Or more accurately, their boomer parents did. Satanic Panic. That's the start from when the game was truly rigged for the Right in the hobby. The political inclination of people who fueled the 80's/90's Satanic Panic gave birth to a counter (sub)culture of players/pariahs who eventually were radicalized to the other side. So after all that ended, the ground had been fertilized for good with ttrpg people who tended to be nerdy, reactionaries, misfits and not give a fuck about religious stuff. Sound familiar? Maybe if DnD (for example) had been developed in a less batshit insane country, as opposed to the US, the cause and effect pendulum would have been a lot milder with these things and we would have seen more even player ideological backgrounds in the hobby.There's also the more philosophical arguments to be made. That:1) At their heart ttrpgs are meant to be collaborative, creative and, generally, punishe people who act too aggressively/self-important2) Because it takes a lot of reading and empathizing or understanding with viewpoints different from your own it's deep waters to right-wingers, who generally have trouble doing that3) Because, by definition, conservative/right-leaning people care to "leave things the way they have always been" aka keep the status quo, while the liberal/left-leaning are the ones to "let's do something drastic and change that" and challenge the status quo - which of these 2 seem more like ttrpg adventure-like to you
>>96620232imagine being this obsessed with cocks
>>96611426If it was always like why do faggots feel the need to change RPGs so much?
>>96616641Meanwhile, in real life, DnD was made by a right wing biodeterminist and Minecraft was made by a white supremacist.
>>96616641>Why is Hollywood so left wing?It's a jewish circlejerk>Creativity is a left wing trait,My conservative wife went to art school and the leftcucks will harass you and blacklist you from the industry. They even go so far as to pressure people to turn gay.
>>96618854Suicidal empathy IS a sin.
>>96619414Yes? The right is all about tradicional things, so the only accepted things are what already exists and is liked by them, doing anything too new, too different or top controversial (as in controversial to them) is grown upon. So you may get more of thing that already exists but not anything outside the box.
>>96611648Is that Vsauce
>>96620410Frown upon*Point is, right wing can make good retro things, but anything outside that is doubtfull, since they dislike any change that is not positive only for them (like including other cultures, or ideas, or social clases, or things that make them unconfortable in general)
>>96620435> they dislike any change that is not positive only for them nta, while I agree with you that creativity tends to be a more left wing trait, this point isn't a good one. left wingers are only in favor of change that are in favor for them, as well. they actively fight against change that would be beneficial for right wing people and people who do not share left wing interests. they are self-interested, like every single group is. the difference is that they forcefully try to include you into their group whether you want to be in their group or not - ie, if you're african american, then by default you must be a leftist, and any pro-black change is rationalised as pro-leftist change, and any non-leftist blacks are anomalies at best or race traitors at worst.
>>96611419>How do you find tolerable, normal folk for your ttrpgs?You don't lol. There's a reason they used to call us gross nerds.
>>96620446I was talking about art, so if you make an effort to incluye let's say, a Native American perspective because It usually doesn't have a space the most loud right wing people would get mad and call It DEI, even if nothing actually hurts them, because they assume that space Is already reserve for them.
american politics are so crooked and weird, most if not all of the people you dub as left wouldnt be considered as such here in europe. They would be cultural progressives. Btw most of these people are mid to high income and somewhere between center left and center right in their politics aka completely in the status quo, that just want their more progressive moral values to replace those of christianity and conservative ideas. The socialists who want to convert power to the hands of the working class are actually leftwingers along with the few anarchists out there. None of these people have ever been working class from the way you people talk about them.It is simply a cultural movement along politically centrist lines
>>96617400>have that part of their brains burned out by corporate propaganda>RightoidsPure projection.
>>96616641>hmm how do I show my character is a fucking faggot>I know! Rainbow clothes and/or hair!>im so glad im a creative leftist
>>96620517You're not being very creative with your insults either.
>>96620502America has the problem of a strong Evangelical lobby, who want to push a Bible based worldview, and since their country Is secular and doesn't have a state church they act even more extreme.
>>96619486>petersonLeftists in charge of reading comprehension. Do you even know who is Theodore Kaczynski?
>>96620529He’s not wrong though. Cliches are developing and the problem is that if you point out these patterns you get labeled a bigot and so your social status gets threatened.Quite frankly there are demons developing on the left and any effort to exorcist them so that the left doesn’t come to be as bad as the maga crowd in their own way aren’t working. It is probably too late.
>>96618568>Fortunately, clowning is cheapAnd ignoring clowns is even cheaper still. The best thing about conservatives is that they can't actually halt the change they so desperately hate, but they're all certainly welcome to get old and die mad about it. Enjoy the inevitability, Bozo.
>>96620635>And ignoring clowns is even cheaper stillNot when the clown gasses you in the fake shower room.There is a reason why international megacorpos - whom the leftycucks serve unquestionably because they hoist The Gay Flag high - went full censorship in 2015/2016. Corporate-friendly, gay-friendly leftism can only be preached to a captive, and preferably lobotomized, audience.>ConservativesRight-wingers you are going to find on *chan are fascists, not conservacucks. Conservacucks are actual NPCs.
>>96620635It’s frustrating being liberal and seeing leftist extremist arrogance on full display.I fully believe that it is conduct like yours that will create new generations of those you call “rightoids.”Please stop if you care about the health of society.
>>96620689>Please stop if you care about the health of society.jewish golems only care about doing their master's bidding. They hate themselves, and they hate 'society' and want to drag everyone down into the same morass they're wallowing in. Except the holy jews, of course, although Gaza debacle changed it somewhat.
>>96620401>>96618854>>96618641Yall niggers need a dictionary. Empathy is the ability to recognize the emotions of the other person. It's not necessarily linked to sympathy. Many psychopaths are empathic, but utterly lack symapthy and use their emapthy to torment their victims.
>>96620677>You won't play games with me so I'm going to gas you!!!Why are rightoids like this?
>>96620603>>96620689As an outsider looking in, I will say that the main difference I see it's that left wingers do talk about this stuff and if they should change it. Being cancelled is a left wing phenomenon because is a demand of accountability, that's why right wingers can't get "cancelled" by other right wingers no matter what they do (correct me if I'm wrong) on the other hand right wingers wont talk about changing their ways and instead double down because they look backwards to an ideal past, they assume things work well back when and if it doesn't work now it must be because of chaining ways and they must correct course to how things were before. So if they were sexis or racist in the past than that must be a good thing because things work well then, clearly segregation was a good thing and people before us did it because That's How Things Must Be, is left wingers who are the real racists not noticing how the end of segregation or women working hurts society. So right wingers can't change, they can only double down on going back while left wingers will constantly argue with each other if this is the path to change or if they should be doing that instead and since they're multiple ways thing can change they get angry at the other guy having this set of ideas.
>>96620756This is very shallow. The political divide is not literally "past/future good!"
>>96620799Please then, enlighten me because I'm genuinely curious. I know there's a difference between being economical conservative and liberal that doesn't apply to this, but in social matters the line seem to be divided there.
>>96620756>As an outsider looking inFence sitters get shot at by both sides.
>>96620822Good thing I don't live in America so the chances of getting shot at all are minuscule.
>>96620807Broadly speaking, "Right" is concerned with Tradition and Lineage. "Left" is concerned with Revolution.It's easier to understand if you consider extreme positions. Take for granted that homo sapiens today is biologically the same as homo sapniens of the Stone Age, so, cultural evolution outpaces biology by many orders of magnitude. But the environment homo sapiens lives in today is very different from environments it has evolved in (and that wasn't fucking Africa). So, either one needs to revert to the environment that best suits us (see: The Amish, Ted Kaczynski) or homo sapiens needs to evolve further.Communists want to design their ideal man. Seriously, study the French and Russian revolutions, people seriously believed that a rather fundamental change can be enacted.Meanwhile, National Socialist approach is to accelerate evolution of the New Man.Obviously, Nazis are correct on this question since the Communist approach requires 1) faith in the communist methods to work and 2) faith that the flawerd homo sapiens huamn-designers would design homo sapiens+ and not an indian, out of either passive incompetence or active malice.
>>96620862I think you may be an extremist and fail to understand how people actually think anon.
>>96620828>what is years of lead>what is Provisional IRA>what is collapse of Yugoslavia>what is crime surge in former Eastern Bloc states in the 90'sGuns are not some esoteric secret jealously guarded by amerikeks, when there's revolutionary or reactionary fervor, bullets and bombs will be flying.
>>96620807Viewing things through that lens, you get the idea that right wingers are backwards looking because you assume that what left wingers want is an objective and true 'Progress' into the future. Both want what they want because they believe it's the best way into the future, the conservatives are just more likely to say that life is pretty good as it is and their main priority is keeping it the same. That's just my opinion though.
>>96620872>I think you may be an extremiSorry, I forgot to attach my NSDAP membership card. May be these cats would so instead.>how people actually think anon"Extremist" is a slur for those who take presuppositions to their logical conclusions. "Moderates" are essentially saying "Surely, B follows A but let's draw the line at C".Motherfucker. You either take the whole alphabet, or ship for a new one. Chinese, for example.
>>96620876>choose a side or be afraidNah
>>96620890>that life is pretty good as it is and their main priority is keeping it the same.I again would argue that no, since they face the hardships of current life as much as everyone else, but the conclusion for solving the problem is not "let's do something different" but "let's go back to do things as before"
>>96620899Choose a side or a choice will be made for you.
>>96620909Why are we comparing planes with economic unrest? They're like two completely different things, the only reason people don't drive planes everywhere it's because they suck at driving cars and adding yet one more axist to the equation makes it even worse. Like, aviation is safer than driving only because we are very choosie on who gets to pilot.
>>96620529Insults don’t need to be creative, they need to be true.
>>96620907I mean to say that the conservative viewpoint is a Reaction to a 'new' problem whereas the progressive viewpoint is an attempt to change an old and deep rooted problem.The policy the current american government is following is not an old technique, it's a new policy to stop a 'new' problem.>>96620909The leftists love homelessness, it's in their pamphlets and everything.
>>96620940The point of an insult is not to tell the true but to hurt.
>>96620926A choice had been made for you. Don't like it? You votted for it, bigot!
>>96620862There's no right/left dichotomy and there hasn't been one since the end of WW2.There are only two kind of people on this Earth left: those who support this inhuman techno-totalitarian system wholeheartedly (trannies, marxists, etc.) and believe we should live in a genderless polysexual own-nothing-and-eat-the-bugs society that is functionally the same as an ant colony, and people who say "I have a bad feeling about this" while they ride the same slippery slope a bit awkwardly. Cause people on the right are essentially the same tech addicts who only exist to reinforce the narrative.Actual reactionaries would organize to form Amish-style communities but that's orders of magnitude harder and those who do it are inevitably going to be alone and go crazy or end up doing something that labels them as terrorists (further reinforcing the narrative). We're all caught up in a sinkhole with no exit and every action only serves to give another spin of the wheel, nothing anyone will do will even manage to slow it down. Technology is just going to inevitably swallow us all.
>>96620947Well yes, the issues with democracy are real, but I don't think there's a simple solution to it, but just screaming a each other and becoming doomers certainly isn't one.
>>96620949>actual reactionaries would organize to form Amish-style communitiesTeddy explored this a bit. There is a problem, however - technology does provide power, after all. It's the only reason why it is being developed. The Amish depend on the English to guard them from various predations. When such protections fail (Most Mennonites used to live in the Russian Empire), they either need to pack up and leave - and join another technological society willing to safeguard them - or compormise and embrace technology for self-defence.That's why Ted advocated for global anti-tech revolution. And I don't think even he found an answer to how the cycle won't repeat once again, aside from "it is the conern of the future generations".Right now, our benevolent jewish overlords seem to have developed a plan for replacing everyone - except themselves, of course - with Indians. Muslims prove too much of a ticking time bomb (pun intended).
>>96620966The thing about conspiracy theorist I find fun is they always need to believe there's a very competent overlord managing things to a set goal instead of the chaotic mess reality is. And if you dare to think otherwise you're being controlled or a sheeple, not just someone who gets human nature
>>96620956>Well yes, the issues with democracy are real,Just one: representative democracy existing>there's a simple solution to it:Abolish democracy.Seriously, if you think that what Joe Schmuks thinks matter any more in a 'Western Democracy' that in Democratic Republic of North Korea, you are delusional.
>>96620976>conspiracy theoryI prefer the term 'empyrical reality'.
>>96620995I give up on this conversation just like I give up on people who think Tarot reading is real.
>>96620966Yeah I did not mean to say that this would have been an effective counter but that it would have been a logical one. If you are hooked to the system, no matter how against it you are, in the end you are furthering it. The system absolutely does love to have "nazis" and "chuds" around to propel their narrative further, the two-minute hate is necessary. I would even go as far as saying that if there were no visible opposition, it would be invented just to fulfill that role.And then yes you are right about technology, and most of what I think was sparked from Uncle Ted as well, he is right. It made me very depressed since I started thinking about it because technology isn't really anything human but more like a natural calamity. You cannot go back. It would be unreasonable to go back to bows and arrows once you've discovered the machine gun. Technology is just inevitable, the developments I am so much against and I find so inhuman are inevitable. It's difficult to admit but technology is just stronger a force than mankind, and mankind will simply bend and reshape itself to accommodate for technology to prosper. I have absolutely no hope that things will get any better. In 20 years we will have no concept of sex or gender, there will be no concept of family, love, anything like that, you will have some kind of sperm bank and glass-grown fetuses who are then sent to a collective training camp, you get out, you are screened/scanned and programmed for compliance, you get your meds, you go to work, you go home in your pod, eat the bugs, drink filtered sewage, watch your mandatory shitted porn just in case you're not cucked enough yet and go to sleep to be awakened by an electric shock from your rainbow assplugAnd I love that it will be this way, cause I'll be dead I'll laugh at dumb normies from the grave (or whatever soilent container my dead body will be processed into). Fuck this gay world
>>96621013>I give up when presented with evidence of my own eyesAre you trying to say that flood of 2 billion jeets into other countries isn't real? It's not just Western ones - they're infesting Japan, Russia and South America as we speak.
>>96620976>The thing about conspiracy theorist I find fun is they always need to believe there's a very competent overlord managing thingsIf you're referring to me no, I believe the exact opposite. Even if we pushed a button and killed all the CEOs and heads of state and reset the system entirely, it would pick up exactly from its current position because technology at this point has become some kind of super-organism which mankind belongs to. You cannot change the status quo in any way or the system collapses, and if any nation decides to revert things, it will be absorbed by another nation who sticks to the more efficient (current). system. This is why I just can't blame the jews, at least not seriously, the joos are simply just demons, so they are the perfect vehicle for this, but if they were gone it wouldn't matter that much. People in the end will always choose the path of least resistance, and it would take a collective, synchronous effort to revert technological takeover which simply isn't possibleMy view is the blackest of blackpills, you simply cannot do anything, nobody can do anything. Things will run this way and there's no stopping it.
>>96621020>It's difficult to admit but technology is just stronger a force than mankind, and mankind will simply bend and reshape itself to accommodate for technology to prosper.Yes, this is inevitable answer to such consideration. The question is only in what direction will mankind be adapted by technology. You described what would be called a degeneration in biological (not moral) terms, a future of degenerates serving a tiny caste of self-appointed living gods (until their 'perfect system' malfunctions into a hard reset and degenerates die off since they're maladapted to natural environments).May be it's cope, but I don't believe degeneration is the only solution. We can make smarter, more resilient humanity, that will be better custodians of Earth and wielders of technology than the current crop of homo sapiens.
>>96621041>The question is only in what direction will mankind be adapted by technology.That's no question: the worst possible way of course
>>96621055>the worst possible way of courseThis presupposes some kind of malicious will behind technology (jews). Future without jews will not be a paradise, but it might not end up being Hell, either.
As I said, right wing people want to go back to an ideal past. And if anything is wrong it's because it's different than the past, I was right.
>>96621074>And if anything is wrong it's becauseof the jews.
>>96621065The point is that technology is not a person, it's not human, it's simply a self-furthering method. It's the good old Skynet shit: imagine giving control of the human race to an omnipotent AI (functionally, this is already the case without any AI involved), what will the AI do? It does not have a concept of human needs and only sees these needs as hormonal shit and conditioning. People are growing depressed? Let's alter their brains so they won't grow depressed. It's the most logical way to act if you are unable to give a shit because you have no morality (and morality is just chemistry). Practically everything that makes us human is an obstacle to technology, and ever since we tipped the scales with the industrial revolution, it is technology that dictates what the priorities are. I assure you that it will be normal to "dispose" of malfunctioning people and there won't even be the question of whether gulags are right or wrong or whether the people "deserved" it. Deserved what? It won't even register as something you "deserve", it's just how you run things. There will be something such as "I lost my son because he committed thought crime" because there will not be "I lost my son" and there won't be "thought crime", it will just be, especially since everyone possibly involved in the conversation will be on brain meds and therefore number than a zombie.If all the jews were gone, the unstoppable machine would simply select the second best category of anti-human psychopaths and keep running as if nothing happened. There is simply no escape. The only hope is some kind of apocalyptic event like a meteor or a massive solar flare that completely obliterates everything in 1 second but that's akin to saying the only way out is the extinction of the human race.
>>96621122I think we're not getting the message to each other:Do you think that:> You cannot go back. It would be unreasonable to go back to bows and arrows once you've discovered the machine gun. Technology is just inevitable, the developments I am so much against and I find so inhuman are inevitable. It's difficult to admit but technology is just stronger a force than mankind, and mankind will simply bend and reshape itself to accommodate for technology to prosper. I have absolutely no hope that things will get any better. In 20 years we will have no concept of sex or gender, there will be no concept of family, love, anything like that, you will have some kind of sperm bank and glass-grown fetuses who are then sent to a collective training camp, you get out, you are screened/scanned and programmed for compliance, you get your meds, you go to work, you go home in your pod, eat the bugs, drink filtered sewage, watch your mandatory shitted porn just in case you're not cucked enough yet and go to sleep to be awakened by an electric shock from your rainbow assplugIs the only possible future? Or one in the set of possible futures that includes further technological development?Because if there are multiple possible states, and you posit that only 'the worst possible future' is possible, that implies some kind of malicious actor, aka jews, making that choice.>technology is not a person, it's not human, it's simply a self-furthering methodIn terms of Schopenhauer, it is a representation of the Will - much more powerful than individual human will - but not necessarily actively malicious. In so far as Technology can be said to possess an interest on its own, without jews or another malicious actors subverting it, that interest is advancement of Technology. "Human torture farm" is the optimal way to satisfy sadistic urges of human psychopaths, not the optimal way to advance technology. Perhaps the closest State to pursue the latter is modern China.
>>96621158动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
>>96618768Wrong, dumdum.
>>96621168I'm not a chink and I don't like them, neither can I read Chinese. But China of today is closest we have to a true Technocratic state and it's less dystopian that USA or Stalin-era USSR. As long as "AI" follows the same rules of inference as human logic - which is not a given - it can only make predictions of the future based on the past, and in the past, most technological advancements came from Western European countries with relatively high level of personal freedom. Said level of freedom will never come back, but torturing humans for the sake of torture is not beneficial to the technological progress, it's just something jews enjoy because they're an ontologically evil race.
>>96621158Of course yeah I'm saying you cannot alter the course of events. There is only one future, no variations. Technology converges into itself and from the human point of view that is the maximum evil: a system that is not human lacks human qualities, therefore it's seen as evil by humans.The only reason why you believe that malicious forces are at work is that malicious forces share lack of morality with the technological system. But it is technology that finds evil people as its vessel rather than the opposite. Technically speaking if there were a shortage of evil people in the world, then technology might get into some trouble, but as you're probably aware there is no shortage of psychopaths on planet Earth. Eventually, those people will be gone too and there will only be technology running everything smoothly.A lot of people feel kinda relaxed because communism didn't work before, but right now we've gotten to a point where there is enough of a technological framework to make it "work", of course by completely trampling humanity, but it will work this time. If not this time, it's gonna be the next time. In the end technology will call for further and further attempts until it works and then extends it globally. We're fucked. We're gonna enter such a bleak hypersoviet dogshit world we probably can't even imagine
>>96617581Nah, that's anyone who is any sort of -winger. Look at how the right and left did a 180 on free speech in the span of like, a year, because the right is in power and the left is in opposition.
>>96619217>>96619162What pub? What city? Like to someone that does live in a big city, that sounds like fucking bullshit. People don't socialize with randos at pubs and nobody would actually play RPGs there since it would be too noisy and the tables aren't set up for it.
>>96620862I think the fact that you think you're unbiased is hilarious.
>>96621190>There is only one future, no variationsI suppose that's out fundamental disagreement, since you believe in some kind of reverse Omega point pre-determined future. >The only reason why you believe that malicious forces are at workThey manifestly are, replacing White people with pajeets is detrimental to advacenment of technology. Thus, the Will of Technology is in discord with the current course of action - the Will is a very simple thing and it wants to expand further and futher, bound only by other manifestations of itself (which is where all the human and animal suffering comes from).>bleak hypersoviet dogshitPost-Stalin Soviet Union was a lot brighter place to be in than contemporary West, lel. If everyone is poor, nobody is poor and in order to be sent to GULAGs, you had to actively oppose the government for a significant period of time. You get unpersoned for one comment decade in the past nowadays.
>>96621024NTA, but the fact that you think it's the Jews, when it's simply the free market, which isn't run by the Jews, but by financially motivated sociopaths.>inb4 they're all JewsNope. But in the race to the bottom, if you don't adapt to the current market conditions, you will simply fail and lose.
>>96621242>I think the fact that you think you're unbiased is hilarious.Leftist failing reading comprehension: exhibit #1488.I never tried to hide the fact that I'm a NatSoc.
>>96621188>China>Technocratic>less dystopian>AI following logic>Jews are ontologically evilJesus Christ, like. Arguing with you is a waste of time. You'll hoot and holler like a chimp no matter what I say or do. You do you man.
>>96621260Then for what purpose are you trying to present what the other side is thinking?
>>96621266>Then for what purpose are you trying to present what the other side is thinking?To make clear why gassing them all in fake shower rooms is socially expedient and morally correct course of action.>>96621263>china>more dystopian than the current WestHow's the weather in Tel Aviv, Schlomo?
>>96621253Our fundamental disagreement is that you believe evil forces are using technology for evil purposes, while the truth is that technology is using evil people to further itself. If you believe that NatSoc wouldn't have converged into exactly the same final outcome as any other political "system", I'm sorry, you are delusional. It's a really difficult pill to swallow but political choices don't matter and nothing matters, technology is everything, that's why I said politics don't exist. There is no political position that matters and it hasn't been the case since WW2.>They manifestly are, replacing White people with pajeets is detrimental to advacenment of technology.I have no fucking idea about the strings these people are pulling so I can't tell where the fuck they're getting with destroying white nations. Maybe they just want to tank the standards of living everywhere. Off the top of my head, if you have a population of browns it will be easier to commit genocide and kill billions of people, cause whites with a Christian upbringing aren't kosher with that. I have no clue honestly, that's just not something I have the means to think about.
>>96621289>I want to kill the other side while felling morally superiorThis is why no one takes you seriously.
>>96621290I have an idea why: jeets are very servile people. Many of 'our Volk' are also content to lick boots of those above them and kick ones below, but such stance is considered morally repugnant. Jeets consider such behaviour righteous. A natural slave race, perfect goyim.>If you believe that NatSoc wouldn't have converged into exactly the same final outcome as any other political "system"NatSoc would certainly not converge into erasure of White European people, thus, if you are White European, NatSoc is vastly preferable to Neoliberalism.
>>96621290>while the truth is that technology is using evil people to further itselfMy nitpick of this argument you haven't addressed is why something that is morally ambigous should prefer 'evil' people. Pushing gay shit and ethnic replacement in countries that used to produce the best scientists and engineers is outright detrimental to development of technology and runs contradictory to your thesis.
>>96621311>why something that is morally ambigous should prefer 'evil' peoplethat's pretty simple dude>the most logical course of action here is slaughtering these people>moral person: maybe we shouldn't do that>evil person: what's the paythere you gomankind does not enjoy computer-like efficiency. technology views the very qualities that support human wellbeing as an obstacle to its propagation. a person who cares about fellow human beings will not act towards, but someone evil will. technology just needs to create a way to make the evil person profit from it
>>96621230The back lounge area is set up for it, and someone that turns up for an event isn't a rando. It is, in fact, an incredibly precious social scene.
>>96621308>NatSoc would certainly not converge into erasure of White European peopleYeah until you redefine white. It's not like someone doesn't do it all the fucking time already. It's all bullshit man. They'd word it differently, same results as soon as technology demands it.
>>96621346>the most logical course of action here is slaughtering these peopleWho are "these people"? Most logical course of action would be to annihilate Africans and the entirety of Indian subcontinent with all subcontinental subanimals, and institute strong eugenic policies among European and East Asian populations. Not to replace high-IQ K-strategists with low-IQ R-strategists.It is that part that doesn't compute. Cohencidentally, it does compute if one considers an alternative hypothesis - namely, that our current situation is not an inevitable consequence of technology, but rather a result of a malicious attack from the inside (by the jews).And China, which I gave as an example of a society closest to technocracy, is not exactly a land of golden green sunshine. It is amoral, highly stratified and utterly materialistic. But Chinese are not vying to replace themselves with Indians or Muslims.
The right/left discourse in this thread has become tiresome. Also, the target of this ire is very specifically obnoxious Leftists, which are a real thing that if you haven't also encountered IRL, you would indeed assume that person is making shit up. And once you do encounter them, you will swear eternal vendetta against them.I've encountered mentally-ill christians who bring up Jesus like it's a verbal tic, and they talked ideology less than these fucks. The SJWs that scream in your face about how important niceness is, and look for any excuse to be offended by things do indeed exist IRL in very specific places.They also Mask. Yes, in the year of our Lord 2025, these people still Take Covid Seriously and wear masks
>>96621439Funny you say that when looking at the post above you.
>>96621439>They also Mask. Yes, in the year of our Lord 2025, these people still Take Covid Seriously and wear masksMasks hide their ugliness.Case in point:https://archive.today/CDqH9
>>96621396You need slaves for an empire anon
>>96611648>AI posting>AI posting a thing to seethe about evenWhy are AI fags always the lowest of the low? It feels like they have less of a soul than everyone else.
>>96621468slave economy might be efficient for maximizing arbitrary number in a digital ledger (called "net worth" in hebrew as if money is the only worth a Man could have), but slaves are notoriously poor innovators.So far, the dream of our benevolent jewish overlords seems to recreate feudalism, but everyone except the lords is an indian.
>>96621439This is precisely how I've felt about conservatives and christians especially for the last 40 years.It's such a rich and creamy schaedenfreude whenever one of you people have to experience what I've experience my whole life, because you did it so hard it became the standard of all conversation.
>>96621486>the dream of our benevolent jewish overlords seems to recreate feudalism, but everyone except the lords is an indian.Talmud says every Jew will have some 3000 slaves in the endgame so it checks out. You don't need that many innovators.
>>96621498literally any scapegoat you can find to continue practicing usury, huh?
>>96621439This is what i found fascinating about left vs right in America, the left would try to find a way to compromise their most obnoxious part but the right will never call out their most extremist members.Like, what does the average right wing person think about /pol/ types? Would they dare call them out like this?
>>96621504The right seem to unanimously all be far right, but pretend otherwise when convenient.They also seem to be operating to maximize the amount of death.
>>96621511>far rightEveryone to the right of Leo Trotsky is called 'far right'. Define your terms, neoliberal shill.
>>96621515The ones that call other humans sub-humans. If you ever called anyone sub-human you're probably there.
>>96621522that's not me>>96621515You all seem 100% okay with killing literally everyone you don't like for any reason, and it shows.
>>96621504>the right will never call out their most extremist members.Dude the left was literally celebrating murder a week ago in unison, topkek
>>96621527And the right does the same any time even a moderately influential dindu dies.Or any leftist that they actually heard of.Are you going to now lie about the continuous joyful spam from the george floyd days?
>>96621527Yes, and then argue about it like they always do. >"you shouldn't be celebrating this because it's antagonistic to others!" they yell at each other
>>96621527>>96621533The right is SHOCKED that the left has started to behave... like the right!
>>96621522>call other humans sub-humansWhat about those who call sub-humans sub-humans? Subhumanity is a real thing, and if you think it is not, you have not met enough gypsy pajeets (YES EVEN "HIGH CASTE" ONES).
>>96621533>Are you going to now lie about the continuous joyful spam from the george floyd days?I only remember people getting canceled for not posting the black square meme
>>96621546So, yes, you are going to lie about the joyful spam.You're somehow lower than the subhumans mentioned here>>96621545
>>96621545Nope, the sub-human test never fails, probably you're far right in your ideologies.
>>96621545The left has a problem with sub-humans because, if they have to start recognizing they exist, then they have to recognize that the vast majority of the right falls into that category.
>>96621552A druggie who mugged pregnant women was celebrated as a national hero cause he decided to fight the cops. No shit people took the piss.
>>96621576Oh no, the other side are doing the same shit you are doing, but their choice of targets isn't to your liking!Who EVER could have thought this might happen?Ya fuckin' moron.
>>96621556>never fails>probably Have lefty colleges replaced Logic with Feelings in their cirriculum, too?>far rightWhat does it mean? Where can I find the definition of 'far right'?
>>96621590The way you are all 100% okay with killing everyone you dislike for any reason is a pretty good start.Also your desire to maximize the amount of death and devestation anywhere you go.
>>96621590Probably because there's a chance someone must be using the term ironically or as in an exaggeration, but the way you use it indicates far right ideas. Do you not share far right ideas?
>>96621594>The way you are all 100% okay with killing everyone you dislike for any reason is a pretty good start.>Also your desire to maximize the amount of death and devestation anywhere you go.So, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zhedong and Genghis Khan were far right, am I getting this right?
>>96621608They were economic left, but social right. You should know this by now.
>>96621608Now now, those people all were trying to do something when they killed a lot of people, the right do it because they seem to be ontologically evil.I know, it's hard to tell incompetence from malice, which is why the right is so often called stupid. But the people who say that are wrong, they're not stupid.
>>96621603>Do you not share far right ideas?This question is as meaningful as the following one:"Does zhublong penoxipie ovwegle darastrum nuuw?"Because 'far right' lacks a suitable definition aside from 'everyone not to the left of Leo Trotsky' and 'People jewish advocacy organizations don't like'.
/tpg/ - Tabletop Politics General
>>96621630No, it has a pretty common sense definition of "further right than average."Which makes sense to everyone, unless you agree with that all right are actually, secretly, far right. Which is the only explanation I can think of for why you are having this confusion.
>>96621630So yes, you do share them but you don't like the backlash that comes from saying you do. That's why your only resource now is a non-sequitur.
>>96621637This is literally the best thread on the entire 4chan right now. Shills that make /pol/ and /b/ insufferable don't spam on blue boards with the same intensity.
>>96621630What's with right wingers and constantly trying to obfuscate discussion>What even IS right wing / fascism / nazism anyway dude?
>>96621649Because they all are ontologically evil, and prefer muddying the waters to having some kind of conversation.You're not dealing with a human, you're dealing with a chinese room set to burn forests and children.
>>96621649>What even IS right wing / fascism / nazism anyway dude?This is a question that permits an answer. "Right wind", Fascism and National Socialism are concepts that are defined.>>96621642>>96621638So far have not produced a suitable definition of "far right". The best I can do for them is : Media buzzword that is used as a laser pointer for moral outrage. Because fucking Reform UK and Nigel Farage are called "Far right" when they're rather obviously Liberals who oppose mass immigration from low-IQ, high-crime, illiberal countries.
>>96621653Did I embarrassed you enough you can't use your prefer term, sub-human, anymore? How charming.
>>96611419Couldn't tell you, one of the reasons I gave up on tabletop was that I couldn't find anyone that wasn't extreme. These days it's even worse.
>>96621659>>96621660Note, due to being ontologically evil, the creature rejects >further right than average.despite being an entirely functional definition.
>>96621660>Did I embarrassedNobody wants to play a tabletop game with indians.
>>96611851>Jimmy shilling his dead game instead of working on it
>>96621668Go easy on him, he's being paid 30 cents a day to shitpost on 4chan so the meanie liberals can't have a conversation about faeries.
>>96621659Right Wing of average suits Reform UK and Nigel Farage, unless you think that political discussion in the UK should account for political averages of Vietnam
>>96621659Is mostly because it defines those countries as > low-IQ, high-crime, illiberal countries.
>>96621667What dataset you're averaging about? You know, political discourse in Europe, United States, Russia, China and Brazil isn't the same and one country's free market liberal is another country's far right neo nazi white supremacist. But, in so far as "Right wing ideology" and "Left wing ideology" are philosophical ideas, definition cannot depend on an average over some arbitrary dataset.
>>96621668>>96621674>when all else fails resort to name calling and diverting attention cute
>>96621681>what dataset are you talking aboutIt varies depending on which nation's politics you are talking about, which you already knew but are playing dumb about because you are ontologically evil.Care to try talking with even a fucking ounce of moral integrity, or would that just kill you?>>96621689You've failed to produce a single cogent point and then started to talk like an indian, take your lumps you fucking pussy.
>>96621696>insult them, call them evil, try to distract them on how much you're embarrassing yourself herefun
>>96621708Note that this creature is now ignoring any argument he receives, focusing entirely on the insults that come with the argument.So great are his emotions that logic is no longer important to him.
>>96621696>It varies depending on which nation's politics you are talking aboutSo, there is no substantial definiton of 'far right' and that means 'meanie', do I get it right?A Communist is a Communist, no matter which country he's GULAGed in. Just like Fascist is a Fascist, no matter if he's ruling in Italy or hiding in South America. Because Communism and Fascism are defined political positions (it's slightly murkier with the latter because fascism is more of a method than an ideology, but let's skip that part for now).
>autists argue over concrete definitions of loose termsa /tg/ classic
>>96621713>so there is no substantial definitionNo, I've given you a functional one: Further right than averageYou've failed to understand this, intentionally, three times now. I can only assume this is because you are actually a chinese room and philosophical zombie, unable to respond to me in any meaningful way.I will now view you as more of a research object than a discussion partner.
>>96621728we need two more posts though
>>96621741oh well, good enough.
>>96620862National Socialists and Communists are both left-wing. Read some of Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's work.
>>96621733>I've given you a functional one: Further right than averageTake a data set A. Assume we can measure left-right alignment for every A_j. Let me prove that for any A_i that is not the leftmost on right-left alignment, A_i is far right:1. Select a subset A' according to the rule that for every k, A'_k should be further to the left than A_i.2. Average left-right alignment of A' to refedine political center.3. By construction, A_i is further right than average. Therefore, A_i is far right.
>>96616028You say yet you post like you were born after 2010, nogames tard.
>>96621581>the bad guy whose assassination the left has been openly celebrating was in fact committing crime and fighting police officers when he was shot in the neckyou're right it was exactly the same thing
>>96616559People who unlike you play tabletop games.
>>96621809>playMore like use it as an excuse to write fanfic erotica.
>>96619992>right wingers caring about evidenceLol!
/tg/ is so slow (because there's about 15 real people left on the board) that this thread won't slide off the board for at least a week.Post quintessentially British things.
>>96620232That there may be, but out-and-out right wing creatives are still heavily marginalized, partly as a consequence of a certain tradition they believe in that makes them enemies of both the right and left.
>>96618824Those anime tiddies also find you to be a unlikable retard.>>96618873Or you could go be dumb somewhere else.>>96618847It seems more like you are just a whiny retard
Tabletop rp gayms?
>>96618568tl;dr derp durr
>>96620290He will do pretty much anything to talk about tabletop games with out playing them or understanding them
>>96620364Yes, sometimes retarded people make stuff without understand what they created.
>>96621966>sometimes retarded people make stuffThat's an apt description of every (human) creative in history.
This thread is gayer than any alphabet person desu. No game faggots deserve the rope.inb4 sone unoriginal faggot says "no u"
Janny, thou art a tranny. And, like all trannies, you're a waste of oxygen.
It's okay to be White. No amount of tranny jannies will change that fact.
>janny rampaging through the thread, unaware it is already on archive:https://archive.ph/Ixv3rEnjoy your wasted effort, tranny.
>>96621966Cope however you want, you're the ones who can't make anything worthwhile and have to corrupt the already existing creations to distort it your degenerate form.
Post quintessentially British things. Tranny janny is powerless goy.
>>96621490See, you just jumped to assuming I'm a conservative, probably so you could then say that this is my just desserts. I'm a 90s/10s liberal atheist, and I have had the good fortune to not be particularly exposed to obnoxious christians in a firsthand, social context. (or you just said this to antagonize and give the impression that left-wingers really are this full of sloppy-thinking spite)The problem is that politics has become everyone's new favorite religion, hobby, and team sport. But the villain in all this is Progs/Leftists, and it has been since Obama's second term, because their politics isn't about policy, its about aesthetics. Even the tiresome race-realism /pol/-posting is so widespread because it got singal-boosted by leftists looking to scaremonger; the demand for racism and bigotry far outstrips its supply. So an entire cottage industry sprang up to provide supply, the media kept giving excessive oxygen because it wanted to sell fear and outrage, and then we got Orange Man.Also, the axiomatic reverence for brown people among progs is weird and incoherent; most of the precious minorities that the left is so fond of are actually quite socially conservative; traditional family values, homophobic/transphobic, and quite racist towards other PoCs. This should result in the same scathing hatred that the left has towards white people who have wrong opinions. Ask the average central-american "refugee" what they think of their 5-year-old son getting turned into a girl, and you'll get a transphobic screed way worse than anything JK Rowling has ever said, yet mysteriously this never comes up.
>>96622194>Also, the axiomatic reverence for brown people among progs is weird and incoherentIt is very coherent if you view progressivism for what it is: Jewish vehicle to attack social cohesion of Europe and her offshoots.
>>96622194About minorities, the issue is if you argue about biological determinism, again, if they're good or bad BECAUSE they're brown/asian/whatever and if you should pre-judge them based on that.
>>96622165Nice projection, nogames. People you don't like have been playing D&D and Minecraft and making stuff of it pretty much from the start of those things existing.
ITTI do hate niggers though.
>>96622252Not only is that irrelevant in the first place but it's also false. Purple haired neurotic brainwashed bitches on drug cocktails were statistically insignificant and certainly weren't playing DnD at all 30+ years ago.
>>96622277Yes, we can tell you are a underage retard who never played D&D or any other tabletop game
>>96622277No, 30 years ago they were playing VtM
>>96622284That's plainly false, you spiritual jeet. Even as late as 20 years ago (2005) a stereotypical nerd was unquestionably white and straight, although either morbidly obese or thin as a ghost and sexually unattractive. And purple haired thots were metal fans, not plebbit consensus enforcers.
>>96622288>>96620988>>96621888Heil. What did Kek mean by this?
>>96622291Yes, we can tell you are a nogames and everything you understand about D&D is from what you heard from other nogames.
>>96622252>>96622284By the way, I find it hilarious that you would accuse me of not playing games and projecting when your kind literally doesn't exist anywhere else but online.I've DM'd on and off for almost 20 years with many different groups of friends, I've been to three different wargaming clubs and I've never seen a degenerate once.You only exist in the darkest corners of reddit and discord groups.
>>96622307>You only exist in the darkest corners of reddit and discord groups.That's where they groom confused teenage boys (which is every teenage boy ever) to become faggots like them.
>>96622291It's still like that today. Although there aren't many obese players in my country.
>>96622307You say yet you post like a retarded 12 year old who never played.
>>96622328It's like that everywhere less-than-perfectly-attractive women and their half-faggot orbiters were not sold "D&D is a queer lifestyle brand" package.
>>96622329The fact that you keep saying that as if playing a game of DnD was some sort of trial for you really drives the point home.
>>96622357>if playing a game of DnD was some sort of trial for youHe had to endure presence of people whose political opinions were not in perfect alignment with his. It's like anudda shoah!
>>96622357So failing at reading is why you are nogames?
>>96622272nightwish isn't that good but is it worth hating them?
>>96622559>nightwish isn't that goodNightwish was amazing before they lost Marco.
>>96622575But Epica is better than Nightwish.
>>96617071anyone who makes me look bad must be a false flag!
>>96617581nobody says that.
>>96617708Yes, retard. Subhumans should be exterminated.
>>96619472Definitely hasn't.
>>96620635Nope, you'll all be slaughtered.
>>96620756No, we don't cancel people because we're not children. You shouldn't be fired for your beliefs, no matter what they are. If you can't get along with people who disagree with you, you're not an adult.
>>96622911>If you can't get along with people who disagree with you, you're not an adult.Kind of funny when the entire thing for the right is the long list of people they don't like and don't want near.
>>96620976Almost every conspiracy theory is 100% correct
>>96621522What if they're right?
>>96622911>If you can't get along with people who disagree with you, you're not an adult.That's pretty much everyone in the modern West. Which was baffling to me as a recent Russian (technically, Ukrainian, but don't lump me with those hohol ingrates) immigrant: in Eastern Europe, it is, or rather was, considered impolite to bring up your politics or other highly divisive topics to your workplace. And you could have a liberal, a diehard communist, and did-time-for-murder neo-nazi sitting at the same table - of course, not without an argument, but without breaching rules of civility. Meanwhile, young Westerners cut all contact with their "friends" over a twitter poast.
>>96623006They're not.
>>96621560seething and delusional kek
>>96621617not even close lol
>>96623017They are.
>>96623047They think so. They're not.
>>96623013Nope, it's just the left.>>96622949Not at all.
>>96623051They are.
>>96623067You sure seem to think so to an humorous degree, are you far right by any chance?
>>96623079>are you far right by any chanceJanny came and went and we still haven't seen a definiton of "far right".
>>96623161I told you already, people who use sub-human unironically.
>>96623183So, we don't have a definition.
>>96623212Is definition, you just don't like it, probably because it includes you.
>>96623229It is laughably easy to falsify because you formulated it to be 'people I don't like on the Internet'. You could have just said fascists or national socialists, but you chose to use "far right" - literal media jewspeak - and pretend to be retarded when confronted. you subhuman gypsy.
>>96623251So you were indeed. Good you posted so everyone else can see the effectiveness of the method. Much appreciated.
This whole thread is drowning in wojack tears. Can't tell whether they're mostly coming from cosplay fascists, angry frustrated incels, angry frustrated liberals, or cosplay socialists though.
>>96623013Leftist Politics in the west has decided to spread itself via peer pressure, so it tells people that it's correct and just to loudly advocate for their political ideology and threaten those who don't agree enthusiastically enough with ostracism.I'm cursed to notice women's dating profiles; a huge number of them say what amounts to: "No fascists. Also, being centrist or apolitical means you're fascist. Actually, you'd better be an antiracist communist queer ally like me, and actually you should be queer yourself, even though I'm a straight woman ostensibly on here looking for a straight man. Also, I hate capitalism, but any man I fuck has to be richer than me. Hasan Piker is so dreamy."(Yes, I actually have seen women talk about Hasan Piker on their hinge profiles.)This is a really good get for any ideology; even if women are going to in-practice fuck hot dudes regardless of their politics, dudes will still mostly at least pretend to be what women SAY they want.
>>96623266Let me explain something to you, subhuman gypsy jeet:Case A:A politician X from a country Y is called a "fascist". Now, that is a claim that can be verified:- Does his political program align with Active Idealism of Giovanni Gentile?- Does he propose solutions to his country's problems that are similar to those that were unique to Fascist countries in 1930-1940s?If the answer to either is "Yes", then politician X is indeed a fascist. If the answer to both is "No", then he is not a fascist, even he hates Jews and wants to gas them.Case B:- A politician X' from a country Y' is called "far-right"Now, that is a completely meaningless statement. A waste of bandwidth. Noise. It cannot be falsified in any way.
>>96623316That depends, does the politician consider some groups of people sub-humans and makes open or veil references to that? See, not hard t all.
>>96623294>This is a really good get for any ideologyFor any ideology that already controls the state apparatus but wants to pretend it doesn't, because women are extremely conformist. Fascists, NatSoc and even Communists back in XX didn't need such faggoty tactics.
>>96623338Ernesto Che Guevara was once asked: - What will the Revolution do for the blacks?- As much as blacks did for the Revolution: nothing!So I guess Che is far right.
>>96623372I would argue that comparing the way someone from the 50's spoke to today is unfair, and that we don't have enough of Guevara to know in what position he would be later in life, since he got shot very early. And you shouldn't confuse economic left with social left while you're at it.
>>96623412>I would argue that comparing the way someone from the 50's spoke to today is unfairWords have meaning, you absolute double nigger. Here's some words from someone who died more than 2000 years ago.
>>96623461You're really discuss everything in bad faith. Do you enjoy people giving up on you? I bet you do.
>>96623499>I am out of arguments but I must post.Seethe, cope, dilate.
>>96623079Now, it's just objectively correct.
>>96623412Cool, I'll use that argument regarding anyone else Leftists have decided they don't like and see how far it gets me.
>>96620496>most loud right wing people would get mad and call It DEINot if it's an actual Native American perspective, instead of Communists appropriating the aesthetic of "Native American Perspective" to virtue signal and try to forment resentment against western civilisation.
>>96620496Why should their perspective be included?
>still seething about liberals long after the thread hit autosagefascinating.
>>96623316As expected, the creature is too dishonest to recognize "further right than average", despite it being an entirely functional definition.
>>96625950I mean a lot of problems the modern left has is rudeness whether it is arrogance a holier than thou attitude or worse.I say this as a liberal. I genuinely believe that a lot of people go to the right wing because they are fed up with leftist arrogance and you can see a lot of it in this thread.
>>96626100Welcome to being a leftist for the last 40 years, where you are only a leftist because the right wing are violently preachy and have never stopped.
>>96626100Welcome to being a conservative for the last 40 years, where you are only a conservative because the left wing are violently preachy and have never stopped.
>>96626148Shit, you don't got an original bone in your body. Ontologically evil seems to include creativity, I guess.
>>96625955nta, the problem is that it's a completely relative definition that has no actual positive content, and you know it's relative because it was said that different time periods and different geographies require different standards of what is "far right" since it's defined by the average.easy problem: you believe fascists are far right. therefore, in historical fascist italy, the fascists cannot be considered far right, because in fascist italy, fascism was the average right wing political view. the definition is completely dysfunctional if, when consistently applied to italian fascism, it ends up resolving as fascists are not far right.
>>96626662That's a lot of words to say "I'm going to pretend like I don't understand averages"
>>96626677You're a moron.
>>96626695I'm sorry that things like basic political relativity are beyond you.
>>96616789>A trans player who has actually been a great playerBro's so good at roleplaying he roleplayed himself into thinking he's a woman.
>>96626100Then how come in this thread the leftist like you always reflect on how to change but the rightoids wont talk about their issues even once? Not one post of self reflecting from the right about the state of their party.
>>96614532Oh, Saddam Hussein!
>>96626100I made up my mind entirely because of leftist behavior. People keep telling me "stop listening to (youtube retard I don't know) or "go back to /pol/' and other shit but I've never been on /pol/ and I don't waste my time listening to youtube retards.I was supportive of this shit until they took off the equality mask and started calling for killing all men/whites/cis with absolutely no backlash from within their group, while telling me I'm supposed to empathize with them and see them as oppressed while their shitty agenda gets shoved in my face by every single megacorporation.I unironically think /pol/tards are working as a deterrent cause a normie doesn't wanna be one of "those guys". I wouldn't even dismiss the possibility that it's all a giant false flag. If there were only the left doing the work against itself you'd have a ton more people crossing over quietly and reach critical mass, cause if you look at the average leftist behavior it's only natural to believe they should all get gassed.
>>96628505leftist is not necessarily the same thing as a liberal, especially nowadays. liberals are more "just do whatever you want just dont mess with other people" and leftists are more "actively try to force the entire society to conform to leftist standards"also, right wingers talk about that stuff in contexts where they know other right wing people will be listening. if you're not right wing, you won't be reading or listening to insider baseball content.
>>96628777>"we do have this conversation but it's like super secret you guys"Never seen it to the point I believe you lack the capacity for self reflection
>>96628727the problem is, literally everything you cited is a right wing strategy adapted by the left.
>>96626155cope :)
>>96626677Clearly you don't understand them, retard.
>>96628505Where is there a single leftoid in this thread seriously considering that their beliefs could be wrong?
>>96628942No it isn't.
