Naggaroth edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>96602274>TQ: What are you currently working on?
Are fireglaives or blunderbusses better for infernal guard? The latter have volley fire and no drawbacks for standing and shooting, while fireglaives have better range and function as halberds in melee.
Cathay big cocks mmm
>TQMy meat
>>96620288>TQTG still
TQ: my final three cathay units.
>>96620323They're not that big for phoenixes relatives.
>>96620461>>96620323Tiny cathayan cock
Finished an old 3d print of kemmler I had lying around for a while
>>96621301I'm just dipping into 3d prints and the differences I've gotten from 2 separate sellers is crazy, one is solid as fuck while the other is like rubber that risks tearing off.
>>96621358I've never bought any, I just print them myself. Floppy resin is crazy though, try leaving it exposed to the sun maybe.
>TQ I finished these guys on monday and started working on an handful more of similar warriors.
>>96620288>>TQ: What are you currently working on?A custom Hellcannon proxy that I just now realized I won't actually be able to use because I misunderstood how allied contingents worked when I bought the parts for it
>Go in GW for some zamesi desert>This leads down a rabbit hole where the clerk has to explain to the autistic college kids working on their armies on parade what vampire the masquerade is>Turns out him and all his mates all play bruhja>Ask if everyone being the same gets boring>"Well we all play dwarves in TOW and do fine"Imagine TOW game night and every single army is just an ocean of beards. The shortacity of it.
>>96621389What started the VtM discussion?
Do you have any ideas for original factions? I've got an idea for a Native American-based faction to complement the Lizardmen.
>>96621444halflings. Dont very much care for human shit.
>>96621389>brujah>dorfsWell those guys certainly have a type don't they
>>96621444fishmen that live in the underground sea in Naggarond
>>96621472At least it wasn't Orcs & Goblins that would have made it even more obvious.
>>96620288>TQ My Minotaurs for my beastwomen army. I've got the antlers printed I'll be adding to this for the horns, though they came out a bit small so might reprint them. My Gorgon behind for scale. Again, I know my painting sucks.
>>96621785>not lactating one job.
>>96620288>TQReiklanders
>>96621423>Zamesi>Tzimisi
>>96621389>Dorfags i know ARE all Brujhafagsat last i truly see...
>>96621444Not really, aside from stuff covered by WAP I have only thoughts about spins on factions, like say crusader empire list, or swamp goblins on frogs.
>>96621389Whats up with TOW having so many dwarf players? Even my local has 3/4 Dwarfs.One of the reasons I am not getting into them cause there are too many dwarf players.
>>96621968I mean dwarves are kind of a constant in fantasy. Plus its an aesthetic even the most unkempt obese neckbeard can percieve as achievable natty.and a combination of The Hobbit, Diggy Diggy Hole and Windrose only made them worse.
>>96621900I guess explaining vicissitude took a while
>>96622010I mean Slaanesh and Vampire Counts makes a lot of it easier to sell i imagine.
>>96621999Sure but I never imagined them to be mainstay. Hell I'd have thought Chaos, Cathay and Orcs were the most likely.>Diggy Diggy hole>windroseI'm gettin old man. This is latin to me
>>96621968Dwarf player here. It's because dwarfs are the best! Actually I don't play TOW so I can only guess. I'm assuming it's a combination of lore and popularity outside the game, a relatively easy approach to game mechanics, and ease of getting good looking models both GW and 3rd party.
>>96622044Diggy Diggy Hole is from like 2014 oji san.
>>96622047I got the Bugman mini from WHW and was going to get into them and truth be told, have half a mind to too if not for the fact that everyone in my local is more or less Dwarf. They do have pretty good BL novels surprisingly
>>96622060I'm huge into dwarfs and metal and I'm Italian and yet I had never fucking heard of these guys.Just like my beloved dwarfs I too seem to have been living under a rock
>>96622074Does this call to your neckbearded soul?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgKnSriC1vY
>>96622090Unironically just gave me flashbacks to buying Battle from Skull Pass as a teen and got me to buy a Dorf Batallion from Element Games.
>>96622090It does actually. And just like >>96622123 said, I too was brought back to when I was 14 and buying BfSP and putting it together with my brother.At the time I felt so excited about the game; everything so fresh and new...I didn't even know the game had "editions" that would change. I just thought "this is warhammer, these are its rules".Sometimes I wish the world hadn't globalized to the extent it did post 2010 and that we still lived in a pre-social network and pre-smartphone era
>>96622047We have 2 here as well as a chaos dwarf player.I'm guessing it has to do with relatively low model count meaning you keep your costs down. People seem to like gun lines with them too. They are also fun to paint from what I hear.
>>96622223Not OP but truly, ignorance is bliss.
>>96621968>Whats up with TOW having so many dwarf players? Even my local has 3/4 Dwarfs.Diggers are the easiest play and designed for the room temperature IQ crowd
I'll post this here for now.I'll take it down in a few hours.Please enjoy and share them freely in the future.May this community keep its original attitudeKeep digging that ore and building that wallhttps://filebin.net/6ahzfkvtn9rwf7uy
I haven't paid attention for a while. Do we know what's next for TOW? Do we have leaks? Maybe more AJs?
>>96622047I think them being the second released forces of fantasy army somewhat increased their popularity somewhat. People who wanted gunlines went with them instead of waiting for empire.
>>96622311They'll release narrative focused arcane journals. The first one will be called Settra's fury. It'll bring army of infamies for Tomb kings, dwarf (slayer cult) and empire (borde princes).
>>96622311Next is some Tomb King models and the war in the Border Princes.Not heard any leaks recently.
>>96622311outside of the upcoming TK AJ we don't really know anything, but probably more AJs focused on certain conflicts like the Orc Waggh in Brettonia or more Beastmen/morghur related stuff in next year, with Kislev and more WoC coming later
>>96622311They'll announce an arcane journal for vampire counts which will bring the bloodlines back along with some new minis in the pre 7ed style.No I'm not delusional.
>>96622373>>96622374>>96622380>TKNice, cheers bros>>96622400Bro I fucking wish. Bring in Bretonnian vampires or something just bring them back
>>96620288Post pics of your armies. I just finished painting the last model for my 2000 points of O&G. What army should I do next as a counter point? I was between VC, Empire and Tomb Kings>>96621377I like the colder colors and style you went for.
>>96622311The guy who did all the undead stuff for AoS confirmed he moved over to TOW this year and after the 1.5 and faq's making Vampire Counts waacfag bait the assumption is the next WHFB army to get the love will be bringing back Vampire Counts. Question is will it be after the Sylvanian civil war ends or during.
>>96622930>Know you are making a range revamp, pun not intended>Make it waacshit>Waacshitters buy it day one in bulk>Then immediately FAQ it into the groundI'm not falling for your tricks again GQ. yes i will
>>96622870VC are not supported.Tbh do Empire Sylvanian army.
>>96622870Pretty cool looking dude, although that's not big enough to be called an army imo.Did you use an an airbrush?
There are a few mentions of the Dark Lands being filled with horrible monsters, but I can't find much mention of what kinds, beyond the Bale Taurus. Does some lore or RPG book give any examples of such creatures, or is it just left up to the imagination?
>>96623391It's a rather undetailed part of the world, unfortunately, but stuff like Magma Dragons and Dread Maws live there. think Imperial Zoo splat for WFRP4e has some more examples
>>96622264Thank you, anon. I don't collect dwarfs, nor do I have a way to use those files, but these are pretty neat.
>>96624130Not a problem, the more people have them, the more new and old player get to enjoy the models that made the hobby so cool for so many of us.
Dark Elves will be announced any day now. Any day now..
>>96621968Dwarf models are typically more expensive (or easily modified into more expensive models) compared to most other factions. So they're one of the cheapest armies to build especially with their battalion box which can be >1000 pts worth of models
>>96624287>AoS gets new Nega-Aevles announced.>All the Dark Elves kits disappear forever.
>>96624562Well shit that was one of the reasons I was going to start...
>>96624562I meant expensive as in points wise not $ wise
How many zombies is enough for Vampire Counts? i think i have 40.
>>96621968I got into OW primarily because I wanted to play fantasy Dwarfs, rather than the other way around.>If find humans and elves to be a bit bland (personally, not insulting anyone)>Them being patently ridiculous in terms of aesthetics, culture, and worldview while taking themselves extremely seriously with the muscle to back it up is funny and endearing to me>I find them to be the most relatable, in terms of simply wanting to be left alone to craft shit>Them being one of the least random, most efficient and straightforward, but with options to run weird lists (like figuring out how to make gyros and miners work, anvil of doom + Bugman cart shenanigans to produce fast Dwarfs, etc.) appeals to my johnny/spike tendenciesIf I ever do a second army I will probably go for goblin/trolls or ogres for similar reasons.
Latest Rumours collected:>Unique daemons coming only useable in HH and TOW>Ogre Kingdoms and Vampire Counts leaving Legends next year>Skaven and Lizardmen remaining Legends'ed forever, those are AoS lines now>New Chaos army in the works but two years out on the schedule>Dwarves, Empire and High Elves all getting one new unit and hero>Some existing heros getting new sculpts as random refreshes showing up on Warhammer store for preorder over the next yearWhich do you think has weight beyond generic cope?
>>96625036Probably Vampire Counts leaving Legends sounds the most unlikely, followed by Dwarfs, Empire and HE getting new character options, all three have a rather robust list for those already
I'm pointing at the stands like babe ruth with my prediction:>Can't use Lizardmen as they are locked to AoS>Need a Mezoamerican line for Lustria>They already brought Amazons back for Blood Bowl>They were first introduced in Mordheim as Norscan Valkyries that fled their failing Lustria Colony and found an abandoned Lizardmen Ruin with some tech they figured out the use off including spawning pools to make new generations of warriors.>Allows them to reuse ideas and aesthetics along with milking Mordheim nostalgia and like Cathay sell a new army.Ids habbeding
>>96625036I think we are absolutely getting a new Demon Army journal and its based on the storm of magic style ravening hordes and they will look totally different to 40k/aos demons.
>>96625036rumours without sources are wishlists, anon
>>96625097Amazons would be fun but why would they need anything for Lustria in TOW?
>>96625153This is modern GW. They WILL end up selling event books and eventually will do Lustria and probably the frozen north.
>>96625036only the unique demons for HH
>>96625153Why would they have needed Lustria for Mordheim?
>>96625097>brought [____] back for Blood Bowljust you wait for them to bring back slim slann for blood bowl
>>96625036>>Skaven and Lizardmen remaining Legends'ed forever, those are AoS lines nowWe are free from the furries.
>>96625275Funnily enough in the Amazons lore the males they left behind found a baby slann and raised it and it grew up to be a skinny slann that became their leader and was known for being extremely chill and also a gigachad for a viking toad.
>>96625304You're talking about kremloI'm talking about blood bowl
>>96625263Because they did a Lustria expansion for Mordheim
>>96625260If HH is getting plastic demon kits, I would guess TOW is also going to get to use those same plastic demon kits.
>>96625357you would guess soyou could guess wrong
>>96625304>sounds like bullshit>>96625317>oh yeah Kremlo? yeah love Kremlo big fanFucking warhammer i swear to god.
>>96625370Sure, it's only a guess after all, but if we go with the Specialist games versus Mainline Game thing that prevents normal Demons from being in HH or TOW(outside of legacy) right now, I could see a possibility that Specialist games just make their own Demon line for their games
>>96625393Old gnarly 1990's nurgle pls come back.Or fuck it Mordheim carnival of chaos.
>>96625097On one hand, Amazons as the lizardman replacement would be sweet, but this is current GW that keeps putting pants on witch elves so they'd definitely fuck it up and makes me not want them to touch the concept.
>>96625405TURBO FUCK IT OPTION FOR TOW:>Nurgle: Carnival of Chaos>Slaanesh: Araby pleasure cult>Tzeench: Chi Ching sect of Grand Cathay>Khorne: ...fuckin'.... i got nothing. Roman gladiators?
>>96625429Cult of Slaanesh is right there.
>>96620319>Are fireglaives or blunderbusses better for infernal guard? The latter have volley fire and no drawbacks for standing and shooting, while fireglaives have better range and function as halberds in melee.Depends on point value and the rest of your army. IMO blunderbusses are better but the bonus for firing a bunch of them is not going to come into play. In the long run, Fireglaives are also gonna suffer way more penalties and I don't think halberds are that good. >TQ: ASTRAGOTH! ZOOLAHOOOOO-AAAA>doots in your pathThanks for posting the best dark elf art and best army book cover ever btw.
>>96625429>Chi Ching sect of Grand CathayIs that even a thing still in canon?
>>96625317But kremlo came from space
Sometimes I get the urge to make an army of some "Fake Leak" faction like that "Army of the Bog" list with Fimir, Zombies and Gargoyles
>>96620288After some long ass hiatus I got back at my Araby army which I'm planning on playing as 6th edition Dogs of War. Currently I'm working on my proxy for Asarnil the Dragonlord.
>>96627108Very cool.You should try out tamiya quicktype putty, I find it easier to sculpt with than greenstuff, and you can sand it once cured as well.
>>96627108I am also working on Araby. Good luck anon.
>>96627306To you as well! >>96627261I'll need to see if I can find that in my region>>96622870Haven't counted how many points I have, I just have been collecting stuff that looks cool.
>>96627466And the other half of the army I have so far
Why are empire state soldiers so fugly and fat
>>96628111it gives them character. Also dont take the setting so seriously.
Do we know yet if the new Bull Centaurs fit on TOW legal bases?
>>96628175They probably will. But no real confirmation yet.
>>96627108kino
>>96628117There's in-universe ugly and poorly-designed ugly.
>>96628111They are Europeans
>>96628111GW execs ordered sculptors to make them ugly like that because grimdark.I wish I was joking.Just look how magnificent the previous run of Empire looked like.
>>96628175god damn this artwork is lame. Looks straight out of WoW
>>96628478wow had more polygons that those dwarves or the empiremen helmets
For small scale beginner games whats a good hero choice for the Dwarf Battallion?
>>96628478Its got more range of motion than most art of what has been coming out of gw recently, so it gets a pass from me.
>>96628607Just use a Thane. There will be no brutal magic at 500 points so no need for Runesmith.You must be 9001 IQ Sun Tzu to get Slayers where you want them.Enginner while nice means you are bound to run gunline and that playstyle will not teach you anything.
>>96628478I've seen worse official WFB art honestly. It still ain't good, but it's far from the worst. Also >>96628175 even if they fit the bases they won't fit the look of WFB.
>>96622930Lots of airbrush, and yeah I agree with you. Luckily I still have about as much as I have on that shelf in progress. Planning on painting that and making some scenery to put in there as well.>>96627466Wow, that is an awesome project. Love the stuff you have painted as well, they just look rich with all the color variation in the fabrics.
>>96625275All the NAF version of Slaan need is a thrower, a 1:1 conversion from old 2016 edition just doesn't work without someone with a decent passing skill. If we want to go down the Kislev Circus route of completely refluffling them, I've always been an advocate for them being the Slaanesh Chaos Team, under the name Cirque Du Slaanesh.The Blitzers get refluffed into some sort of monstrous clown, with a 3+ PA skill and some kind of Pie-Throwing ability that's basically throw a bomb but can only down the target like with Wrestle.Annoying, but it's an action, it doesn't explode, and it still only works on a 4+ even if it hits. Can't be caught, can be dodged though.Come up with circus names for the Line-O's and Catchers, refuluff the Krox as a Fiend of Slaanesh or something, and you're good to go.
Last night, one of my PCs struck a chunk of refined Warpstone with a hammer. I told them it explodes and does 1d10+12 damage ignoring armor. Should it have been more? Less?
>>96628795I don't think warpstone is that predictablemaybe give him a surprisingly low damage and an ominous scar that will mutate slowly over time
>>96628111a diet of currywurst and bier will do that to you
Wait, do heavy chariots no longer get the +1 CR from close order anymore? They're only US5, not 10. That's awful. Chariots are paying for the sins committed by dragons.
Made a little scatter terrain for wood elves. I will use it tommorow
>>96629048Hey they dont look like ogres!
Would people care if i use pic related as tree kin?
>>96629396non autists will
>>96629396They're small treemen. Go for it
>>96629396It's your army, why do you care what other people think? Just put them on square bases. If you want to go the extra mile, buy them second hand so you don't give GW another AoS sale.
>>96629396no
>>96629396The highland miniatures ones are also worth considering
>>96629143Looks cute
>>96629396I think they're ugly, but I'm not going to judge you too harshly for it. These are what I'm using for tree kin. Also just mystical forest terrain.
>>96629399>>96629419Good to know>>96629415Some people are super autistic sbout stuff like that >>96629432>The highland miniatures ones are also worth consideringArent those just 3d printing files?>>96629503How do they move without legs, do they roll to the enemy?Looks good as terrain tho.
>>96629532They're wise and mystical. They don't need legs. They're also the C squad. The A and B Squads have legs. And I probably won't need to run more then two squads.
>>96628175Jesus that looks so bad and soulless.
>>96629143Looks properly gay for a wood elves army
>>96628630Hypothetically, if Dwarf slayers get to melee in some form, are they actually good in combat or do they just get minced anyway? I have used Ironbreakers who I found were incredibly durable, but Slayers get a terrible rep, so curious if they are actually engaged, do they chop / hold good? Or are they just flat out bad?
>>96628175Why does AoS look so cartoony?
>>96629638They work pretty well at killing stuff.
>>96629645please compare any non-cathayan old world model to any recent AoS model and tell me which one looks cartoony
>>96629694I meant the art, you big dingus, hence why I posted some WFB art
>>96629645>>96629705Depends on the artists I guess.
why are you animals even discussing something that isn't warhammer fantasy in the thread about warhammer fantasygo back, you aren't wanted here
>>96629645depends on the artists, depends on the tone thats trying to be conveyed. Also there's digital art playing an influence to it sometimes. Personally I prefer 5th edition (cartoony) art more than post 6th edition art, but thats just me.
>>96629638If you can actually get them to engage someone in melee, if they don't simply get shot off the board which is really trivial to do for nearly every faction that has some kind of shooting, they *will* die although they will also most likely take down an equal amount of models with them. The problem is then what. What did they actually achieve? They most likely hurt a unit but didn't plink it off the board, so now you're one unit short while the other player has a mangled unit that is still able to do something important like capture and hold a strategic location.
>>96629645There's nothing wrong with being cartoony. As always it's all up to the artist to make a style work.
>>96629774>WARHAMMER: Age of Sigmar, our youngest setting at just 10 years old, depicts a ‘post apocalyptic’ FANTASY setting where the forces of death and destruction have triumphed. It details the fight back.In all seriousness there's bound to be some overlap in discussion, especially when possible proxies are brought up.
>>96629638As a beastmen player, they look very underpowered for their cost. They definitely fuck hard, but they'll get fucked just as hard back. They also appear to be worthless against armor. They're designed to fight monsters, which they should be good at, but they also rely on the monsters coming to them.
>>96629788>>96629902Well that is kind of sad. They look really flavourful but no point throwing money at a near worthless unit. Which is a shame as I love the slayer aesthetic.
>>96630210A single, naked dragon slayer with no runes has been a mainstay for all my games over 2k points I at least 3 editions (6th, 7th and 8th, which I'm still playing).Give him a name and just run him in all your big lists. Use him recklessly. It will often do nothing but when it does something, you'll remember it for the rest of your life.Mine has solo'ed steam tanks, taken down units of blood knights, killed chaos lords on juggernaut, slain vampires, destroyed manticores, held a unit of zombies for 6 turns, took out plenty of monsters and a greater deamon of nurgle.Granted he most often dies and does next to nothing but he's always made my games more interesting for both me and my opponent.
>>96620461>infinite source of energy>best use is hot air ballooning
>>96627466Amazing project! Can't wait to see it completed.Where are all your cannons from? Would love to add them to my ever increasing dwarf artillery division.
>>96630210They'll release a slayer army with the next arcane journal, it might be good then
>>96630443From what I have read, last time they had a list slayers were mostly used as a screen for Doomseekers, and the entire list was focused on Doomseekers fucking shit up + goblin hewer + heroes
>>96630394That characters are good. Especially with the new tattoos.The units of slayers themselves suck for their cost.
>>96630210You can try taking a small unit of them and using them as an expendable shock unit that only comes in *after* everyone else has locked down the enemy in combat, i.e make them stand behind someone else to make shooting them difficult / impossible.I won't promise it'll make them super awesome, but at least it'll be enough of an excuse to put them on the table as that should be your main goal. I field shit units all the time (I play Skaven). The alternative is I could not play at all which to me is worse.
>>96620288What things in Warhammer Fantasy would be straight up tough enough to withstand bullets like this?Dragons I guess. Ogres seem like the bullet would pierce the skin, but not really do much damage through their fat and muscle.
>>96631381anything T4 and up if they're cool enough
>>96629638>>96630210It's easy to understand the value of a unit when you compare them to something basic in the same army.Take slayers and warriors, slayers are essentially warriors that cost 3 more points, lose their 5+ armour, and close order in exchange for always wounding on at least a 4+, unbreakable, psych immune, and get a free hit in if they die in melee.To me that's not worth it, maybe +1 point at most if not just a side-grade.
>>96628175They look like they're about as big as the LoA ones and their poses aren't too crazy.
>>96631446This.
How come Warhammer doesn't use casualty figures like historical games do? I think it's very cool looking and thematic, to leave a few dead guys behind when one of your units is destroyed or routed and litter the battlefield with the dead
>>96631724Dunno. They used to make some.
>>96631724You can do that if you want. There are casualty models for quite a few different factions to be found from third party makers, especially if you have a 3D printer handy.
>>96631724Brother, Warhammer players care so little about having a thematic game that they can't even be assed to paint their own army, let alone an entire second set of models just to represent casualties
>>96631757Do you happen to know of any for Skaven? I've looked around for those before, but never found much beyond a neat crashed doom-flayer.
