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For discussion of D&D 3.0 and 3.5e

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>3e Resource Index Version 2024-04-17
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/92491374/#92530275
Previous thread: >>96585511
Thread Question: 3d6 down the line, post results
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Rolled 3, 2, 4, 5, 3, 1, 6, 1, 2, 4, 3, 4, 5, 1, 4, 5, 3, 4 = 60 (18d6)

Lets see if I remember it right...
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>>96637527
>3, 2, 4
Strength 11
>5, 3, 1
Dexterity 9
>6, 1, 2
Constitution 9
>4, 3, 4
Intelligence 11
>5, 1, 4
Wisdom 10
>5, 3, 4
Charisma 12

Welp, selling my soul for power that doesn't care about talent.
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Rolled 3, 4, 6, 4, 1, 5, 4, 1, 2, 4, 4, 4, 2, 4, 5, 1, 6, 6 = 66 (18d6)

Let's see.
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Rolled 1, 5, 2, 3, 2, 4, 5, 3, 6, 4, 4, 6, 3, 1, 6, 1, 2, 2 = 60 (18d6)

>>96637348
What are we rolling for?
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>>96637574
Str : 3, 4, 6 = 13
Dex : 4, 1, 5 = 10
Con : 4, 1, 2 = 7
Int : 4, 4, 4 = 12
Wis : 2, 4, 5 = 11
Cha : 1, 6, 6 = 13
Guess I'll play a Cha Race and Sorcerer or something.
Sheesh. 7 con is brutal.
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>>96637597
STR:8
Dex:11
Con:14
Int:14
Wis:10
Cha:5
Oh look, It's an average wizard.
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>>96637597
Chargen
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This will be one hell of a frail party huh?
Can anybody roll a Barbarian with high con and str please?
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Str: 13
Dex: 16
Con: 10
Int: 8
Wis: 10
Cha: 12

8 int is suboptimal on a rogue but it's a damn solid spread for basically any martial.
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Rolled 3, 1, 2 = 6 (3d6)

>>96637348
Testing.
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>>96637649
Rolling multiples groups of dice does not work.
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Rolled 3, 4, 4, 2, 6, 6, 3, 4, 2, 2, 3, 6 = 45 (12d6)

You know what? 3d6 is way hardcore.
Let's do 6 + 2d6 down the line, shall we?
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>>96637647
Link your roll to avoid confusion: >>96637615
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>>96637659
>Only rolled 4 stats
Your wisdom and charisma are now _
Welcome Mindless one!
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How do you respond without sounding mad?
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I thought it was wisdom Then intelligence in roll ordering?
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>>96637659
STR : (6) + 3 + 4 = 13
DEX : (6) + 4 + 2 = 12
CON : (6) + 6 + 6 = 18
INT : (6) + 3 + 4 = 13
WIS : (6) + 2 + 2 = 10
CHA : (6) + 3 + 6 = 11
Right.
What can I do with this?

>>96637674
6+2d6 anon. So 6*2d6.
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Yesterday's session was fucking amazing. The players are having a blast and so am I.
I'm so happy i swapped to 3.5.
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>>96637676
The fuck is this from?
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>>96637697
Blogpost time.
Go.
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>>96637690
Tank barbarian. Take that one feat from dragon magazine that lets you draw aggro and you'll be set.
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>>96637690
It's kinda bullshit to change the rules for yourself After people have already done things the hardcore way.
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>>96637709
>Take that one feat from dragon magazine that lets you draw aggro and you'll be set.
What's that called?
We have a character that would love something like that.
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>>96637698
Short version: Homebrew class that lets you choose different class features to unlock as you level up, you can get this one at level 14 at the earliest
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>>96637742
If I'm recalling the right one, *really* not a fan of how ham-fisted the lot are, just handing large blocks of entire other subsystems and hard shutdowns like candy.
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>>96637723
Master of Mockery, dragon magazine #333
You make a perform(comedy) check vs opponent's will save. If opponent fails, they immediately get +2 to attack rolls, but take a -2 untyped to armor and can only attack You.
The bonus is also a typed moral bonus, so anything that gives a higher moral penalty to attack over-writes it rather than subtracting.
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>>96637742
>Homebrew
Ah, explains a lot.
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>>96637705
Running a heavily tweaked Savage Tide.
They had a sit-down with a local thieves' guild leader, a kobold, and she offered to poach them from their current patron. Some of them were on board with that, and others weren't, so we had a lot of really fun roleplaying. While no combat this session, I got to maintain a heavy sense of tension since it could have broken into a fight at any time (and they were not confident in their ability to beat her in her own lair). Some skill rolls were rolled, but that was it.
I also had a new player to bring on, and as he's a rogue, I had the idea to have him be the thieves' guild leader's emissary in the party, representing her interests. Now the party is torn between loyalties and it's a really fun time for all of us.
Pic related is her
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>>96637787
That alongside Iron Guard's Glare sounds pretty dope.
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>>96637753
Seems pretty spell like. You normally have shit like this with magic.
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>>96637832
IGG wouldn't do anything if you get MoM off on them. The IGG debuff doesn't apply in attacks against you and MoM debuffed enemies can Only attack you.
I remember there's an aura for martials somewhere that gives a moral-type debuff to attack, but I can't remember the name.
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Rolled 6, 5, 2, 6, 3, 3, 6, 2, 3, 6, 2, 3, 5, 6, 3, 5, 2, 4 = 72 (18d6)

>>96637348
Outta the way losers
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>>96637864
>highest stat average
>lowest stat peak
Oof. Ye be jack of all trades.
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>>96637821
> I got to maintain a heavy sense of tension since it could have broken into a fight at any time
That's lovely.

>I also had a new player to bring on, and as he's a rogue, I had the idea to have him be the thieves' guild leader's emissary in the party, representing her interests
I love that kind of shit. Sure, it can suck when everybody wants to go right and that one guy wants to go left, but most often than not it creates some nice tension.

>>96637860
Think about having a flanking buddy with IGG.

>>96637864
Dayum.
Look at mister protagonist over here.
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>>96637864
Str 13
Dex 12
Con 11
Int 11
Wis 14
Cha 11

That's decent enought to be a Cleric or Archivist
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Rolled 3, 1, 1, 6, 1, 6, 4, 6, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 6, 4, 2, 4 = 55 (18d6)

let's try this
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>>96637893
No brains no brawn, but youre not much good at the other stuff either
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>>96637893
>3, 1, 1
Str 5
>6, 1, 6
Dex 13
>4, 6, 2
Con 12
>2, 1, 2
Int 5
>2, 2, 6
Wis 10
>4, 2, 4
Cha 10

You have the little wimp with big dumb.
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>>96637565
Cheer up, playing warlock is pretty fun!
>>96637615
>>96637627
Caster sausagefest party
>>96637647
Anon thinks no one noticed he didn't actually roll
>>96637659
First person to break the rules.
>>96637889
Clerics have plenty of self-buffs that'll make that strength stat irrelevant.
>>96637893
>>96637907
OOOOOOF
I recommend warlock for you as well. A warlock can be viable even with straight 3s across the board.
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>>96637893
strength- 5
dexterity- 13
constitution- 12
intelligence- 5
wisdom- 10
charisma-10

>>96637904
>>96637907
this is at best a crossbow archer
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>>96637925
>>96637928
i forgot about warlock, i guess that can work as well
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>>96637928
>this is at best a crossbow archer
*Warlock.
That class is basically retard-proof.
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>>96637925
>Anon thinks no one noticed he didn't actually roll
I rolled physical dice from my great-grandma's yahtzee set, they're lucky
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>>96637942
Use the cursed 4chan dice or No Balls
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Rolled 4, 5, 6, 6, 4, 1, 2, 2, 3, 5, 4, 5, 1, 6, 4, 3, 6, 1 = 68 (18d6)

>>96637954
fine
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>>96637659
>>96637690
I motion that this is an illegal character that broke the sacred RAW of the OP
All in agreement: post Aye and/or post a meme
All against: say nay and/or any form of horse noises
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>>96637971
aye
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>>96637971
Aye
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>>96637971
Aye, & have his balls revoked!
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>>96637954
>>96637964
15
11
7
14
11
10

You weren't kidding about cursed, the fuck am I supposed to do with +2 Str/Int and negative con
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>>96637971
Neigh!
Mostly because my character would benefit a lot from replacing the low rolls with 6s.
Also this man: >>96637928
He was clearly born wrong! With these rules he could Live a Normal Life!
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>>96637996
Strength Archer/Thrower
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Rolled 4, 5, 5, 6, 5, 5, 4, 6, 5, 6, 4, 5, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 3 = 84 (18d6)

>>96637348
I hereby uncurse the dice!
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>>96638031
Jesus Christ, That Worked???
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We are all very bored aren't we?
Well, you might as well help me select my spells for the day.
DMM:P Ordained Champion Cleric with access to the Healing, War, and Sun domains.

>>96638021
>With these rules he could Live a Normal Life!
Lmao.


>>966380311
By Torm!
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>>96638031
Str 14
Dex 16
Con 15
Int 15
Wis 10
Cha 14

I'm going Artificer
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>>96638039
>966380311
Huh?
Meant to quote >>96638031
How did that extra 1 get in there. I didn't type the post number by hand.
Odd.
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>>96638047
Go psionic artificer
It has all the benefits of artificer And the bullshit of psionics.
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Rolled 3, 1, 3, 2, 2, 6, 6, 2, 6, 2, 5, 5, 4, 4, 5, 6, 1, 3 = 66 (18d6)

>>96637348
Dice! Please, GIVE ME YOUR BLESSING!
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>>96638069
>str:7
>dex:10
>con:14
>int:12
>wis:13
>cha:10
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>>96638081
Look, a Druid.
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>>96638031
He is Chosen!
>>96638069
This, is not.
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Question for the class.

A Wand Bracelet can store 4 wands or wand sized objects right? That way if you wanted a dagger or something like that you can do that too. Would you guys allow a Hideaway weapon to count?
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>>96638092
Caster sausagefest continues...

...Is it still a sausagefest if it's mostly femboy twinks that can't open a pickle jar?
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>>96638105
I don't see why not
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>>96638105
>Would you guys allow a Hideaway weapon to count?
Why wouldn't it? That's what hideaway weapons are designed for.
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>>96637856
(Ex), actually, unless specified otherwise.
The whole point of the classes were to be non-casters who get a similar toolbox of abilities to what wizards/clerics get without dipping into spellcasting.
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Huh. Did the d20srd always have cloudflare protection or did they add it recently?
I guess they were getting DDOSed.

>>96638039
A yes, I forgot
> E - * : Memorized with the Extend Spell Metamagic
> (P) Will be cast with DMM Persist7
> (E-rod) Will be cast using a Metamagic Rod (Extend, Lesser)
We are going to fight what I assume is an Adult Black Dragon with class levels and all stated up with metabreath feats and shit, but that might not happen until the next day. We will without a doubt stumble upon some of her minions however.
Big hulking lizard things with regeneration, fucking ninjas, corrupted Girallons, and who the hells know what else.

>>96638106
At least you can turn into wolves and bears and shit.
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Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>96638058
Eh, fine there's some hinky stuff with them like Dorje not being like Staves yet Psicrowns aren't really like Staves either, no Forge Ring, etc.

If transparency rules apply I think it's better to raid psionics than to mimic spells.

What kind of adventure are we going on lads?
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>>96637975
>>96637985
>>96637992
>>96638021
Given it's been 15 minutes an no more votes have cast, It's 3:1 in favor:
>>96637659
>>96637690
The Councel has Decided: Ye have No Balls
And for thy Tomfoolery, Ye must be Punished!
I Cast: Quickened Tacobell Diarrhea
&
I Cast: MEND BUTTCRACK!
Begone!
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>>96638130
>At least you can turn into wolves and bears and shit.
That isn't helping the twink allegations...
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>>96638161
not everyone that turns into a wolf does it for sexual reasons
I assume
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>>96638131
>What kind of adventure are we going on lads?
None because the jannies are trannies.
Back when they split /qst/ from /tg/ they put a blanket ban on funposting quests with any characters made in /tg/
We lost a lot of funpost traffic because of that stupidity and quest is pretty much a dead board.
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>>96638116
>>96638117
So... you could make 4 Hideaway Elvencraft Staves with 3 Wand Chambers each?

That's 4 magic staves of whatever & 12 Wands all within a swift action. Hot damn
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Rolled 6, 3, 1, 4, 3, 1, 5, 3, 5, 5, 5, 5, 1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 5 = 64 (18d6)

>>96637348
Just out of curiosity.
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>>96638171
I don't think the jannies with check in.
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Rolled 4, 3, 20, 12, 20, 8 = 67 (6d20)

>>96637348
>3d6 down the line
Have some balls.

>>96638168
That sure is an assumption.
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>>96638172
I mean, with enough GP you can do anything
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>>96638193
fukkin modok over here
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>>96638187
They will if we start having fun.
Same shit happened in the waifu building thread, jannies started snooping when the thread had activity, and because they hate fun, they actually tried to false-flag it as a quest thread themselves.
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>>96638193
Why do anons feel so threatened by the possibility of a low-stat character that they actively break the rules to avoid the possibility?
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>>96638193
Anon, a quick version of 3d6 x 6 is 6d16 with a + 2 to each roll, not 6 d20.
d20s have 1/5th of their possibly results outside the 3-18 die range. They aren't anywhere close to equivalent.
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>>96638196
Fair enough but I find it kind of fun to think about. Like, with a Hideaway Staff (especially with wand chambers) you've got a lot of power in what is basically a short 5-6" cylinder since the state of the weapon doesn't effect its ability to be used as a spell trigger device, you could disguise it as something innocuous like attach a hammer head or chisel etc. it looks like a regular tool, you'd never suspect it's a powerful implement.

Or even more interesting if it's a Sizing weapon turned really small. Consider a wizard who walks around fighting dragons with what looks like a toothpick, or a cigarette holder/pipe
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Rolled 16, 7, 13, 6, 1, 4 = 47 (6d16)

>>96638255
I'll demonstrate.
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>>96638193
Take this man's balls!
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>>96638270
What in the actual fuck?
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>>96638270
>>96638270
strength:18
dexterity:9
constitution:15
intelligence:8
wisdom:3
charisma:6
Definitely a martial character.
This is like the platonic Ideal of the "Big Dumb Fighter"
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>>96638270
>>96638280
>>96638293
This is a demonstration, not an actual character.
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>>96638193
I motion to reconvene for yet Another illegal character that broke the sacred RAW of the OP
All in agreement: post Aye and/or post a meme
All against: say nay and/or any form of horse noises
I will also take suggestions for punishment.
Ball removal is both expected and required, but what additional curses do anons have in mind?
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>>96638332
Aye.
I think anon should be curse to do all math by hand from now on.
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Anons, given how we have a massive mega-dumb of 3rd party content in the OP, why is it rarely discussed?
Published 3rd party is often more robust than most in-house shitbrew in my experience, or at least gives great ideas to shitbrew from.
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>>96638332
Niet!
I want more roll options for the builds that got Fucked!
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>>96638332
Aye

Make him carry all the gear the twinks can't!
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>>96638400
Because we didn't have a mega for 99% of this threads existence and no one reads to OP anymore.
I doubt most anons here even know the mega exists.
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Random thought: Why would anybody use a wooden wand? "That wand you spent 750gp on just snapped in half, sorry bro". Really? A level one wand nearly costs as much as an entire 1000gp house. Solid steel wands would be the industry standard.
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>>96638857
Just make some Alchemy checks & make glassteel wands
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>>96638857
Sometimes you just find a very good stick in the woods while taking a walk, the same can't be said for rebar
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>>96638857
Druids.
If staves, rods, and wands were metal as a standard, druids would be at a disadvantage.
The druid union lobbied Hard to keep wood as the industry standard.
Besides, do you really want your 750gp wand to be rust-monster food either?
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>>96639027
Why not make it out of something that isnt metal but just as hard? There's resins & mystical substances to choose from. Also Ironwood is a thing too.
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>>96639242
>Also Ironwood is a thing too.
Something the druid Just Happen to have a monopoly on...
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>>96639260
Big Goodberry hates this post
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>>96639260
Doesn't matter, I'm still making a Murlynd homage wizard-paladin cowboy with a staff of power toothpick, that's just too funny to pass up



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