Wheat Cake EditionPrevious: >>96648883>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What was the last commander you wanted to build and then didn't due to the price of the commander?
>TQProbably Scion of the Ur-Dragon, but this would have been in like 2014 or so. I no longer think about the price of commanders
I am confused. This is the Magic /edhg/, yes? So why has OP put a card that is not Magic? Please to explain
>go to LGS tonight>Venom deck>Carnage deck>Spider-Gwen>Cosmic Spider-ManI thought this shit was the most hated set ever and flopped. But I still have to see this shit.
>>96654622Because you're lazy and didn't bake on page 7
>>96654545>If you want to play him, you'd do it with cards that damage everyone when they draw cards.Yeah I was thinking about throwing that in there too. I just think it would be fun to play because I'm drawing lots of cards and being friendly, then I get to play all these splashy black cards I've never played and see the table react.>>96654545>If you just want to play timmy monoblack, play K'rrik. Unlike Seizan, he actually helps you play those big black spells, and doesn't give your opponents SHIT.Oh yeah I forgot about that guy. What kind of cards do you use to offset that life drain? Seems like you'd want some good passive lifegain for him.>>96654618>Don't play K'rrik, K'rrik is boring and will get you targetted before you even play it. Seizan is cool but black has lots of more efficient ways to draw cards, and pinging everyone every turn really isn't something that garners favor, even if they are getting cards out of it. Picrel on the other hand will garner more favor cause they are given a choice, and it encourages attacking, specifically attacking not you.Dang. I forgot about this dude too. I'll have to do some tinkering. This guy already plays defensively like a few of my other decks, which I like, but it might be too similar. I think I'd have all three in whatever deck I decide to tinker with.
>>96654579>TQI use mana box, so the cards are displayed with the prices right on them. I don't bother reading them if they cost too much. They have been tons that friends show me I didn't even know existed cause they cost too much for me to look at.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96654579>TQ: What was the last commander you wanted to build and then didn't due to the price of the commander?Chromium. The OG Legends one. I wanted to make a control/stax Esper deck and have a commander that's cool but doesn't hint at what the deck is about. He's got that cool factor, but not $50+ cool.
>>96654632>What kind of cards do you use to offset that life drain?It's kinda up to you.K'rrik is one of those cards that can be built as toxic or as timmy as you like. At the high end you're playing aetherflux reservoir with a shitload of rituals and draw to gain a bajillion life and kill the whole table in a turn. At the low end you're just playing a bunch of lifelink dorks to keep the party rolling.
>>96654632If you want people to draw cards and lose life, you want fake bobs: keen duelist, duskmantle seer, parker luck, and caustic bronco.
>>96654623Yeah, you were wrong
>>96654623All the Spidey cards are rotting on the shelf at my Wally worl meanwhile it took all of two days for all the final fantasy and most of the edging for an eternity to get cleaned out
>>96654721Ok but then why the fuck am I seeing them at tables?
>>96654724Because people like the cards, they just dont want to buy a pack of spider-man.
>>96654724because people wanna play with the new thing even when the set is doodooalways has been
>>96654721I have literally never seen a commander deck using EOE legendaries but I've seen like 8 Spider-Man decks.
>>96654733No one buys packs of anything that isn't collectors. FF boxes, EOE boxes etc all rot on the shelfs at my LGS. Only collector boosters sell. Why even get a playbooster when you have 0 chance for anything exciting?
>see a card at commander night that would go great in a deck I am building>forgot what it was by the time I got home
>>96654623They will realize the cards arent good and stop playing it soon enough. The average commander player only plays their deck a few times then drops it when it sucks. Those commanders all kinda suck
*slaps down t1 Vexing Devil*Well anon? Do you take the 4?
>>96654829Or the call "EVERYONE HATES MARVEL" was full of shit.>Bro they only make 10 bil instead of 15 bil now. It's dead
>>96654838My deck relies on taking damage, so yes.
>>96654838>40 life>it's turn 1Yes?
>>96654838nah let one of the two other idiots I'm playing with do it
>>96654838How does this actually work? Are opponents supposed to decide in order of priority? Surely its not just hurr durr who wants to do the thing
I got a spider man gift bundle pre-ordered at msrp, which is still like fucking $90. Should I just cancel it at this point?
>>96654892It's a triggered ability, so yeah it works in priority order
>>96654896>It's a triggered ability, so yeah it works in priority orderThen according to game/poker theory, the optimal strategy for all opponents would be to pass priority to the opponent behind and the final opponent (to your right) would be stuck with having to pay the 4 optimally. Though even then maybe someone wouldn't do it.
>>96654907Poker theory can't account for the last guy making a deal to not take 4 in exchange for not being hit for a couple turns by the devil
Has anyone built this guy? I tried to put a list together once but I felt like there was a distinct lack of cards that really came together in a good way which also used his ability. I saw some guy run this in the 99 in a sultai list which felt like it fit way more than in the command zone
>>96654929>I felt like there was a distinct lack of cards that really came together in a good way which also used his abilityHis ability is "Spells cast from your graveyard cost 2 less to cast", which is quite good. The rest of the text on that card mostly doesn't matter.
My goal is to clone Renegade Silent and The Flood of Mars and devolve the game into a spit pit where I break parity with Hexproof creatures. Who is my commander? Current commander is Chameleon. Bonus points if I get to play Boil.
>>96654941Behold, Captain N[CENSORED]
>>96654721Venom is fucking insane. What are you on? A more apt description would be boring. Too bad they made Peter Parker absolute dog shit. It’s literally a French vanilla.
>>96654623Turns out real life isn't some chudcel copium echo chamber. The set isn't as beloved or hyped as LOTR or FF (nothing will be) but it sold well enough and 80% of the player base has no problem with it or any UB product. The vocal minority of posters and content creators lambasting it don't represent the overall sentiment of the player base. Remember, these crybabies are also the ones who seethe endlessly about Commander as well and have predicted it's collapse for the last 15 years, and they truly think that if Commander somehow didn't exist that the 80% of the playerbase that plays it would all immediately shift to Standard and Modern instead of outright abandoning the game resulting in its death.
>>96654946Superior version coming through
>>96654946Damn this is really good.
Will FF prices come down soon? I want a traveling chocobo but $30 seems a little steep.
>>96654579>TQ: What was the last commander you wanted to build and then didn't due to the price of the commander?Lumra
>>96654787What card?
>>96654738enjoying flickering infinite guideline station. even though it's another clunky do thing draw card 5c it kinda survives most boardwipes with very minimal protection and can quickly rebuild a board state and fill your hand with gas
>>96654960How are you rebuilding after a wipe, only multicolored artifacts and enchantments?
>>96654951ummmm sweatyI saw a spider man booster at my walmart so the set didn't sell any. Also The last spider-man movie didn't make as much as End gamecheck mate
>>96654958This one
This is an auto include in 3 of my decks and I hate that this is what white gets when fucking other colors get so many good persistent draw and counter effects. Like if I was playing a Selesnya go wide deck I wouldn't even consider this card because I could just slap Ouro and Toski in and get all my creatures way more than one +1/+1 counters per turn and as much card draw as I can hit with per attack. What's MaRo and co's retarded obsession with making white the "balanced" color when the other 4 already have 10+ years of tools that bust the game wide open?
>>96654985Because white is the color of stax
>>96654972Oh sick I know what that one is yeah it'd be super good in your deck!
>>96654985White reminds them of White people, who they hateEven filling the art for White cards with niggers has not alleviated this
>>96654960I thought about building this as a battles deck
>>96654929He goes in the 99 of a sultai reanimator deck. He's not commander material, there just isnt enough of the plot mechanic to work with.
>>96654929>>96655037Are you both retarded? He reduces all costs from graveyard and exile by 2. Do you know how many abilities that hits? This card is unreal one of my strongest decks.
>>96655042Did I say he's bad? He's insanely strong. Just not as a commander. Total beast in a muldrotha deck
>>96655042I looked into him as a commander more and it doesnt look that strong, he just abuses Foretell, Plot, Adventure, and Flashbacs, but except for flashback those mechanics have hardly any support or strong cards (when limiting simic colors). He needs a 3rd colour to have his full potential is all I'm saying
>>96654990Ah, yes, the classic build:the cat with zoomies jumps onto the table and attacks the board, before running off to go chase its tail
>>96654985White is the second best color in commander.
>>96654948I didn't say anything on the set I said nobody is buying it in my area
>>96654579Lmao why does pete look like trotsky
> opponent tries to count his activated ability as a triggered ability> inform him it isn't a triggered ability, its an activated ability> he says yes he triggered it by activating it
Any cards with sacrifice abilities you like anons?Viscera Seer is a no brainer, but I also like self-sacrifice abilities like Mortarpod, or Eater of Hope in general
>>96655142lmao sounds like he got ya
>>96654985> he unironically turns his cardboard sideways to draw cards
>>96655147if the cards aren't meant to be turned sideways, why are they rectangular?checkmate liberals
>>96655042>He reduces all costs from graveyardWrong, he reduces _casting_ costs from the GY. Which honestly there aren't too many effects that do that> flashbackTrue but green doesnt really do that too much and blue had some ok stuff but nothing crazy.I feel like with Red or Black he makes way more sense
>>96654951>>96654967You're a delusional retards those fucking spooderman boxes lost over half of their value the play booster boxes are being sold at the same value as a universes within set. When the fuck do they ever do that with a universes beyond set?
What kind of deck can I make that is good enough for a somewhat sweaty pod while also being Chaos (WH40K) flavored?
> Your Doc Aurloc game ending value card, sir
>>96655169>NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! EVERYONE FUCKING HATES THE SET GOD FUCKING DAMN IIIITTTTTT
>>96655147>he turns his cards 30 degrees to the left because that's what Arena told him
>>96655178Also I just looked it up. The only recent set besides FF selling above spooder man price with play boosters is Innistrad Remastered.Aetherdrift is like half the cost of spooder mon
>>96655183>SPM€96.70>FF€154.50>EOE€104.50>TDM€95>FDN€105
>>96655178>Ummm the secondary market doesn't reflect on the demand for this nasty ass cardboard ok? I want to believe it's successful so it is!!
>>96655142Ive never forgotten the explanation they used on stronic resonator and to day teach it this to newbies. A triggered ability always starts with "when", "whenever" or "at"
Why do people believe their own life experiences are more valid than anecdotes online?
>>96655195Personally I don't ever remember that. But a triggered ability is obvious if its something which happens as a reaction to some event. Whereas activated abilities have a cost/colon.
>>96655144High market. A non-black, cheap emergency sac outlet on a land.
>>96655183No fucking shit you dumb animal the fucking Mario kart set was the most expensive play booster box when it was the newest set too
>>96655144Ashad is my bae. I run him with steal effects and just sac the stolen guy right after combat.
>>96655205Exactly. the event is always, "when this creature", "whenever this creature", or "at the beginning/end", there is no other wording they've ever used to indicate a triggered ability. Wonder how long it will be before they fuck it up.
How based is this? Or will it be a scuffed izzet spellslinger
>>96655198Internet is fake and gay
>>96655223Aristocrats is by nature scuffed.
>>96655223A friend of mine has a creatureless Judith deck at my LGS. It's actually a ton of fun, and sac outlet spells coming with a return on investment in damage by saccing an Imp and producing another one is great. I don't think he runs any GCs either, but I always feel like I gotta put in the work to stop him from killing us. Remember that Red also has a ton of cheap spells that produce goblins and shit for like 2 mana.
>>96655243Has he ever gained a billion life with a blasphemous act?
>>96655183>>96655193lol
>>96654623Fotm commanders that are also relatively cheap since there is no demand. They'll almost completely dissappear in a months time when they move onto avatar.>t. Built an effective turbo gwen Stacy deck because she was a buck at my lgs
>>96655257He has absolutely done that, as well as used those spells that do 1 damage to everyone else's creatures to wipe the board for 1-2 mana. In fact, he's the guy who killed me off last week before I could win with Golbez, was down to 4 life so he just punched me with Goblins after wiping the board and going for the win.
>>96655263Cosmic spidey is like 10 dollars. Comic book Venom is 200+
>>96655223Sexy. Cannot imagine more attractive commander. Probably has a lot of goth girl creatures in the deck, and perforating artist too.
>>96655218I was specifically thinking of cards with a sacrifice ability rather than cards with a triggered ability that works off of sacrificeBut damn thats evil what you're doing
>>96655271Cosmic spider is under 10 dollars and is one of the most popular commanders from the set, the regular eddie/venom is also under 10 and nerds love venom. The fact that there's like 4 standard art cards in the set over 10 dollars a week after release and only 1 is significantly over 10 is basically a stillborn release for UBslop.
>>96654787I love slightly uncomfortable looking cats. Anyway, that's why you need to look up the card the first chance you get otherwise you'll just lose it.
>>96654946It's oddly funny thinking a horror monster just decided to become a pirate.
>>96655223Not as fun as you wish it'd be. 5 mana in Rakdos is a long time with a deck that relies on its Commander being out. There's not a lot of redundancy for her ability so people will be removing her simply because they can shut down a lot of your deck by keeping her off the board. So basically you either sit there durdling or you fill up your deck with a bunch of ramp and protection and secondary strat cards meaning you'll have only so many slots to play fun spells. I really REALLY tried to make her work but after 10 games it was obvious she was just too vulnerable and slow to be fun.
>>96655362>cast Not Dead After All/Malakir Rebirth/Fake your own Death>get an imp for doing itthis is an objective plus
>for 3 mana, tapping and sacrificing itself does the same effect as lighting boltwtf were they thinking
>>96655488it would make so much more sense if it could be activated for free when an opponent declares a creature is attacking you or something
>>96654929This guy's going into my Airbending deck
>>96655488That's a limited card anon.
quite fond of spellbombs>>96655540>limitedwell of course anonI can only have one copy of it in my deck
>>96655549I didn't want to give you a (you) for that, but you can have one because of Spellbombs.
Redpill on this guy? Besides the mysterious '00 teenager aura.
>>96655663Autistic dude who doesn't know how to talk to people but they excuse it because he's hot and strong.
>>96655663>universes beyond
>>96655663Basically Squall is a promising student at a mercenary academy and he gets a lot of favortism despite being absolutely fucking awful at expressing himself because he's handsome and pretty good with a sword. He gets a bit better at it throughout the game but holy shit early game he just LOVES to try and put off any kind of team effort or cooperation, making him much more like Seifer than he'd have been willing to admit at the time.
>>96655663>the mardu one isn't a knightgod damn it
>>96655663>ItsI wish they'd be consistent on the pronouns they used
>>96655807I hate it that we now have cards that refer to themselves with he and she. It will now just be a matter of time before we get some enbie shit.
>>96655663>Squall>guyFeels odd because the character is extremely androgynous and you can rename them.
>>96655831Maybe your brain is melted UBslopper, but androgyny is not something most normals would attribute to Squall.
>>96655831>Squall>Androgynous in what fucking world?
>>96655833I couldn't give a shit about your opinion. Also it's PSOne graphics.
>>96655852>himselfYou can fuck off now retard lmao
>>96655871People named Squall after themselves and Rinoa after their middleschool girlfriends.
>>96655878I named her after my sister because we were playing the game together.
>>96655878Thanks for the Pokemontier Fun Fact faggot.
Will FFfags leave once Avatar comes out?
Remember when everyone shidded and pissed over this nigga
>>96655989No
Every year this 4chan birthday thing triggers my schizo for a split second because my birthday is on the 3rd.
>>96655663Ff8 is the only one I've never played...
>>96655359It is a Spelljammer Illithid, which are somewhat less horror-y in behaviour than their counterparts from other settings.
>>96654579why are the pancakes green
>>96655831>>96655852You have to be 18 to post on 4chan and you just exposed yourself as underrage by not recognizing his face
>>96655125Damn sam hyde lost weight
>>96656004tbf it was a toxic piece of shit in standard as I recall
>>96655831Androgynous according to the zoomer retards that play this game
since when does thinking a final fantasy character looks like a woman make you a zoomer?
>>96654579>>96655125>>96656064Slavic looking nerds. Peter looks like he's ready to eat some delicious brain with a side of fava beans and Chiant.
>>96656004If standard wasn't a 3 turn format this fucker would be running a train on it, in fact it was for about 11 minutes before bloomburrow mice fucked everything up
>>96656097Not only would no normal human being look at Squall and confuse him for female, you picked the one FF protagonist that is directly based on a real life person that anyone over the age of the zoomer demographic would immediately know unless you are THAT much of a weeb that you won't consume anything non-anime
Can I get any critique for my Super Timmy deck? Is there anything I should add/remove?
>>96656155Also here's a pile of stuff I didn't know if I should cram in. If so, what should I remove?
since when was Squall based on a real guy who the fuck uses a gunswordyour all fucking retard tourists invading my game I swear no one actually likes final faggotry
>>96656155>Can I get any critiqueyou're a fag with no spouse because you spend money on decks like this
>>96656037They're wheatcakes so they're more brown. THe artist is terrible and the lighting is weird so they're more green-ish when they're actually a deep brown.>>96654744I buy them to draft with friends usually. Collector boosters are way too much $$ for cardboard.>>96654623It's almost like a small amount of schizo no-games on 4channel aren't a reliable dipstick for how the broad playerbase acts.
>>96654623get off the internet and go outside look at how much money the last few spider-man movies made
>>96656165>since when was Squall based on a real guysince he was first conceived
>>96656159herald's horn fucking blows don't play itportal to phyrexia rocks, do play itdrop the blightsteel colossus
>>96656117Squall is based on a real guy?
>>96656155>extended art commander's plate>eye of ugin>full art roaming throne>other ugins >eldrazi>ancient tomb
im gonna turn my zilortha gruul into a infect slop pile
>>96656215>he doesn't have all the bells and whistlesWhat are you, poor?
>>96656211Squall is based on River Phoenix both appearance and personality also shit like>same birthday>both have an adoptive younger sister >Squall's family members are named after River'sAnd he is specifically based on River in Indiana Jones which is why there's so much shit about father figures in FF8
>>96656155Timmy decks aren't exported 1 for 1 from the edhrec, anon...
>>96655073>>96655045Genuibe retardation
>>96656266It has big monsters. I swing with big monsters. It is Timmy incarnate.
>>96656258>River Phoenixliterally who? >Indiana Jonesjapanese people don't know what indiana jones is, no one has ever watched an indiana jones movie to begin with boomers are the ones buying all these UB sets
>>96656197Should I swap in Mana Vault too? My thought process is to get that sweet colorless mana and get as many cost reducers (it that heralds, ugin, etc) out so that I can cascade like a madman ASAP.
>>96654787Thats why I just take a picture of them because ive been there before
>>96656290Anon, it's okay to learn new things and not to have known something. You do not have to have made up, angry, reactionary bait-tier opinions for no reason.
>>96656290>japanese people don't know what indiana jones is,the most famous FF14 character in the world is a guy named Indy Jones
>>96654579>TQI haven't run into this problem. I think 10 years ago I wanted to run a damia deck and she was like 8 bucks which was hard to justifyFor the most part the commanders I am drawn to are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
>>96656299As someone who has never touched FF14 outside of when it was in beta and they shut it down for a complete rework, I thought the cat girl who's a precon commander was the most popular character.
>>96656297tired of you faggot ass boomers ruining the game I've been playing longer than all of you, you 30 year old tourists came in and started introducing UB with your franchises no one likes knows or cares about no one gave a fuck about Fallout until you shoved it down our throats and now its everywhere, the same with this shit from 40 years ago that no one likes or watches
>>96654623Ive only seen one and it was from the resident slop autistHe also plays starscream and is extremely loud about it
>>96656309Fallout is one of the most popular western game franchises ever, anon. I know you're mad and young and need to be opinionated on things you don't know anything about but please try to reel it in.
>>96656306I meant in game characters people playBut even outside of that the catgirl doesn't have her own Netflix show based on her but Indy-San (how they call him) has one
>>96656295Yes, Zhulodok is at his most fun when you are spinning that slot machine erry turnMana vault does have the problem that if you use it to hit a fast Zhulodok it kinda does nothing because he just sits there like a lemon while you try to put together enough mana to play something to spin the slots.But it's cool if you use it to play a big thing AFTER ZhulodokMight be better to just put in TOR though, to find land and coins for the slot machines.
>>96656319>Fallout is one of the most popular western game franchises everSource: I made it up
>>96654735This Even back in theros pic related was everywhere even if it kinda sucked
>>96656196he actually does look like if you put squall's PS1 model in an AI and told it to make it live action
>>96656299thats one person, japanese people dont watch american movies>>96656319>Fallout is one of the most popular western game franchises everboomer hands wrote this postI never heard of fallout until UB so its just evidence you fags are forcing this down our throats expecting us to like it
>>96656325Source: Todd who would never lie to me.
Zoomers have to be the most insufferable generation alive>make claims on things you cant/wouldn't know >be wrong>instead of accepting that, learning, or doing anything positive...>double down like retards and attempt to rewrite realityYes, most people have heard of AND SEEN Indian jones
>>96656349most AMERICAN peopleno Japanese person watches AMERICAN movies
>>96655177Whats up with the headstone by its name?
Can Y'shtola work well in lifedrain deck? I like the idea of catgirl sucking people dry.
>>96656345>I never heard of fallout until UB>Anon I live under a rock and am not aware of massive trends in video games from before 2018ok
>>96654951Can’t wait to post the inevitable cope from MaRo where he says that Spider-Man underperformed but it has not affected their plans with UB
>>96656324That's what I figured. I also have a Commander's Plate and Urza's Saga so I can (hopefully) protect Zhulodok from the impending hate he'll get. TOR could be a good idea too so I can hopefully filter out mana rocks and little guys by drawing them. I guess I'll give the deck at try at my LGS on Friday and see how fast people try to gangpile me.
>>96656362Her gimmick is getting horny from seeing mana rocks. You want to basically just run a pile of 3cmc rocks and bonk people while setting up draw and a pillow fort for yourself.
>>96656357no japanese person involved with final fantasy would ever watch an american movie
>>96656357>no Japanese person watches AMERICAN moviesyou live in a fictional world
>>96655142How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>96656357>no Japanese person watches AMERICAN movieslmao
>>96656365>fallout>massive trend Name 5 games that are trying to be Fallout
>>96656357Kojima bros...
>>966552235 is a lot for a rakdos commander
>>96656372do you have brain damage anon FF and LotR did so well that Spider-Man failing would not make them double back on UB if anything it will make them not want to do cape shit anymore and focus on RPGs and LotR even harder
>>96656386a-are you serious? you actually weren't alive pre-2010 were you?
>>96656386FalloutFallout 2Fallout 3Fallout New VegasFallout 4 (emphasis: trying)
>>96656380>biggs isn't the fat onewhats square's problem? are they stupid?
>>96656394This would be a HUGE win. Superheroes have no place in mtg, but FF, LotR and other similar franchises definitely do.
>>96656394I mean, youre not wrong, but you should be>yeah we’re just gonna run our game into the dirt literally gambling on finding another billion dollar IP!>what happens if it’s Oops All Flops?>blame anyone but the execs and fire a bunch of people!
>>96656402>FF, LotR and other similar franchises definitely do.No.There is no “place” for any other IP in Magic. It is (read:was) a card game, not a series of ads on cardboard
>>96656396nta but there's not that many games actually trying to copy fallout Gameplay wise there's shit like The Outer Worlds but setting and aesthetics are not even close to Fallout, you don't judge a meal based on one ingredient
>>96656402>This would be a HUGE winyou sure about that? this is the shit you're gonna get instead, what are they gonna do when they run out of Final Fantasy games you ever think about that?
>>96656421>one of my other favorite franchisesI'm happy about this?
>>96656408>literally gambling on finding another billion dollar IP!Its not gambling when there's surefire hits out there like 40k or any IP Asia likes
>>96656421It's sad how much they botched the story of KH after 1 so much considering 1 is one of my favorite games of all time and the ending still makes me cry.
>>96656421>what are they gonna do when they run out of Final Fantasy games you ever think about that?Use a Square franchise that sells better than Final Fantasy in Japan and SEA
This card is so fucked up and evil.
>>96656429Post monolids, crim
>>96656412>not a series of ads on cardboard"its okay when its Transformers and 40k"
>>96656412I can tell your zoomer ass doesn't shower daily from here
>>96656440Aside from the obvious Akira Toriyama elements, why do the japs even like this franchise? the plots are so basic that it hurts and it never experiments mechanically. I LOVE Turn-Based JRPGs and think that it's no surprise FF games have dropped off since they stopped making them, but they could try to do something new.>>96656412>I don't know what an advertisement isYeah they're definitely gonna rack up them FF1 sales with the Garland card, anon. You're such a sperg~
>>96656442Surefire way to get jumped by the table
>>96656442another blatantly overpowered UB card thanks boomers for ruining standard
>>96656442step aside, sister-kun
>>96656464Yes they should all attack me, what could go wrong?
>>96656470But that affects me, i prefer asymmetrical effects when i'm assholemaxxing.
>>96656471They exile your blockers
>>96656462>the plots are so basic that it hurtsnigga played one DQ game and called it a daytry one of the ones where the plot follows a guy from childhood throughout his whole life
>>96656462>and think that it's no surprise FF games have dropped off since they stopped making them??????what did anon mean by this there's a new major FF game every year
>>96656357The most famous Japanese name in gaming is obsessed with western media anon
>>96656490Pekora?
>>96656462>why do the japs even like this franchise?Its all of asia not just Japan, its significantly more popular than FF while the rest of the world is more into FFits way more charming and consistent than most JRPGs, the franchise is closer to something like Kirby people don't play Dragon Quest expecting a space opera or angst mcgodslayer quest Way more marketable also, Slime is very iconic and easy enough for a 2 year old to remember and draw
>>96656448>any other IP>erm what about these two!Dimwit post
>>96656448No it’s never okay and no matter how many times you try to shill the line “UB haters just haven’t been pandered to yet!!!!” you will always be wrong.If that is your genuine belief, don’t you think that should be cause for concern that WotC is just bringing in IPs regardless of what percentage of the player base will actually bite?>>96656455Zoomers fucking love crossovers, Fortnite has been the biggest name in FPS for 10 years.Deadass unc you crashing out>>96656462>Yeah they're definitely gonna rack up them FF1 sales with the Garland card, anon. You're such a sperg~Well for one thing, yes actually all the FF games went on sale at the time the set releasedAnd youre conveniently ignoring that they run FF14, one of the top MMOs in the world. But yeah, sure, bet no one bought a subscription to that cos of Magic. Bet they lost players actually, cos everyone quite to go play tabletop games, right?
>>96656490Miyamoto? Aonuma? Iwata?
>>96656361That was put on cards in the Odyssey block that have something to do with the graveyard. There was a graveyard theme and it was meant as a player aid to easily identify relevant cards when looking through a graveyard. They've since used it on some modern retro-frame cards. Also at least one of the timeshifted old frame cards (Valor) from Time Spiral.
>>96656487>FFXI was terrible>FFXII is divisive at best>FFXIII is remembered as bad>FFXIV is just troglodyte slaves like WoW>FFXV was bad>FFXVI dropped off 5 minutes after release
>>96656412>There is no “place” for any other IP in Magic."Its okay when its a chinese IP"
>>96656497>cos
>>96656480It's a non-issue if you do it right.>Sheoldred as commander>load up the deck with buttloads of life drain, everyone draws cards and loses life shit, TOR, etc>run necropotence, grave pact, oppression, and the new black hole card from EoE>laugh as you gain a gorillion life from the draw, while they all constantly have to sacrifice the cards you keep feeding them AND they lose a shitton of life>throw in tutors and things like Torment of Hailfire for extra salt
>>96656508>>FFXIV is just troglodyte slaves like WoW>heh success of something can be disregarded if I have contempt for the people making it successfulYou sound like a UB hater. Perhaps we’re not so different, you and I
>>96656522No, I just simply wanted to make a snide remark about the type of subhuman who enjoys an MMO. Games are meant to have plots that start and end, MMOs are just "wouldn't it be funny if you just never stopped giving us money just to even turn this on?". Endless, flavorless, plotless dreck.
You guys just wait until Hasbro suits find out about gacha and vtuber whales. Hololive UB 2027/2028
>>96656529>No, I just simply wanted to make a snide remark about the type of subhuman who enjoys UB. Sets are meant to have plots that start and end, UBs are just "wouldn't it be funny if you just never stopped giving us money just to even play the game?". Endless, flavorless, plotless dreck.
>>96656513NEVER.OKAY.
>>96656543>if I play word replace and misunderstand the difference then we're the sameyou're not gonna recruit me.
>>96656533Bitch get your feet out of the text box. I fucking hate cards that cover the text.
>>96656508>FF is only mainline games What game came out yesterday Anon
>>96656552I don’t need to recruit you. You’re one of us, you just don’t know it.
>>96656508>FF11 was badUnderage >lists FF16 as the current main modern FFSince when was 16 the current mainline FF game?
>>96656582When did FFXVII release, anon?
>>96656592Anon.... Not all FF games are numbered
>>96656599All the mainline games are, retard. Do you not know what mainline means?
>>96656592>>96656604Anon have you been under a rock
>>96656608>a remake of a side game is a mainline title>a side game based on a mainline game is a mainline titleholy shit stop being wrong so loudly
>>96656592Clive is not the face of the franchise nor is he the most recent mainline protagonist It's this guy here
>>96656615>FF7>Side gameWe've reached full zoomer retard
>>9665658211 WAS bad. The hard drive I had to install was not worth it.
>>96656615I'm talking about FFVII not Tactics remakeBut Tactics is always brought up in the same breath as the mainline titles that it might as well be
edh?
>>96656620>>96656620>>96656624Anon Final Fantasy 7 came out in 1997. Remaking a game is not a "recent mainline title" especially when they're dividing the game into pieces to sell you with downgraded mechanics/story. StopBeingWrongSoLoudly.
>>96656529MMOs are very cost effective entertainment anon. And they have plenty of ends, generally each expansion. Then its like a whole new game!!!
>>96656624Tactics should get a commander legends set for sure with a touch of FFXII in it because Ivalice.
Is this just one retard saying retarded shit for the lulz and another retard who keeps engaging because he hates someone on the internet being wrong?
>>96656635Anon FF7 is no longer being remade
>>96656635>Doesn't knowFF7 Rebirth is mainline it's not a remake anymore they said as much when intergrade came outEven WotC considers it mainline
>>96656630It's all mtg now, anon. Just let it happen.
>>96656635Remake came out in 2020 They made a sequel last year with a new storyWotC considers it mainline
>>96656642>>96656645>no guys see we got bored halfway through and instead decided to make our chunky, shitty remake of FF7 "different"Says FF7 on it, makes it about as mainline as Dirge of Cerberus, FFX-2, or Lightning Returns: FFXIII. None of you retards know what the word "mainline" is meant to mean and it's pathetic watching you zoomies flail around and screech. This anon had it right.>>96656349
>>96656659>Remake came out in 2020nta but didnt that literally end at when you left Midgar? Like 10% into the first disc?
>>96656635FF7 trilogy is it's own main FF entry now that they're just making shit up and WotC kneeled already including FF7R only cardsIt's big enough that you can separate FF7 and FF as two separate franchises
>>96656666Yeah and all notions of a remake ended there as well they went with a new storyIt's mainline enough that theres a bunch of cards in the main set that are only from Rebirth and Remake and not the original game
>>96656660>it's not mainline >SE has called it mainline >WotC calls it mainline and already included it in the setNo matter what you believe, this does not change the facts that WotC calls Rebirth a mainline game
>>96656666Demonic Quads
>>96656660It's disingenuous to compare the FF7R series to the Sequel games and you know it especially when none of those games got referenced in the set when the R games did I don't think it's mainline but FF7 as a whole has splintered off into it's own thing now that we're going beyond a trilogy
>>96656627stupid fucking squirreldie
Remake is literally in the name but it's not a Remake but a new game instead? You guys like this shit? You're all gaslighting me into thinking this is a successful franchise when they pull nonsense like this all the time
>>96656695Anon resurrecting 5 year old discourse
this card seems cool
>>96656673How is it not a remake???
>>96656714Meathook Massacre II
>>96656718Well outside of a completely different story that contradicts the original game in huge ways, mostly new cast of side characters, and it taking place after the original game already happened, the original FF7 is a turn based JRPG while Rebirth is an open world game where you have to climb towers to unlock parts of the map like Breath of the Wild or Assassin's Creed, not an RPG
>>96656721no...
>>96656660>FIN and FIC will be all mainline games >Cards reference FF7R and things that happen only in FF7R >Therefore FF7R is mainline
WotC is lying about FF sales don't believe the trannies that tell you this is a successful franchise it's all leftist media control trying to gaslight you The more I hear about Final Faggotry the more I'm convinced this is a troon psyop that started a few years ago cause even ages ago in 2021 I never met a single person that knew what a FF was, this "huge" series just popped up overnight and every tranny says it's "iconic"
>>96656778Wild that this could actually be a real post.
>>96656732I haven't played a final fantasy game since 10 on the PS3 Did they really turn the series into an Assassin's Creed clone?
>>96656784dilate you fucking small penis weeb no one likes this shit you just forced it on us a few years agoNo one knew or cared about this they long stopped making these games
>>96656448> TransformersBad>40kGood
>commander players crashed out when someone pointed out the truth of them being pigs that love slop
>>96654623My LGS has tons of comic book nerds and even they were pretty cold on the set. They said the art was pretty garbage and the thematics weren't great. FF had 30 people at both pre-releases iirc; Spiderman had 10.
>>96656502Interesting, was there any other symbols?
>>96656790Right down to the UI elements and Synchronizing with Towers, they even still call it synchronizing like in AC
>>96656805Magic has been slop since Jace first appeared unironically
>>96656790They did a 10 remake on the PS3?
>>96656694that... that kills the squirrelare we free ?
>>96656803I like X-2 and FFTA, the rest are bloated overrated garbage. All Universe Beyond is shit though.
>>96656508Well FFX sucked too and FFVII was divisive. Even FFVII was overrated.
>>96656841It's the one that included the X-3 storyline where Tidus gets dumped by Yuna and cucked by a shotaNot even exaggerating is the fucked up part
>>96656497Probably a lot of people were going to play MtG instead of Dawntrail tbf.
>>96656860troon hands wrote this post Faggot boomer forcing your woke shit on MY game that I've been playing for YEARS
>>96656864Ah no shit. Seems like every time I turn around there's some new goofy FF I never knew about.
>>96656155Yes, use sleeves
>>96656548A U T I S MV I R G I NF R I E N D L E S S
>>96656165>your all fucking retard tourists invading my game I swear no one actually likes final faggotrySo what you believe is that FF tourists are invading the thread but they don't know anything about FF?
What's the best way to protect Elsha, threefold master? I want to go all-in on pump-spells. There seems to be only 3 one mana instant speed phase out cards, Galadriel's Dismissal, Slip Out the Back, and the blue march. Am I missing something? Should I put a card like pic related in the deck?
>>96656513China numbah 1But honestly some of those 3k cards have shitty flavour precisely because of their being from 3kCapture of Jingzhou is the most egregious one I know of, that doesn't have SHIT to do with extra turns
>>96656863FFVIII was divisive*Fuckin' autocorrect
>>96656841Includes X, X2, and X3 Visual Novel It builds up to the infamous sequel book where Tidus dies from an exploding blitzball trap and is reborn as a dude that talks like Nathan Fielder
Edge of Eternities is single handedly the best set because of this being able to be combined with Phylactery Lich, implying that a lich bound their soul to a block of nutrient paste
>>96656895Ah damn, is this the same one they're selling nowadays? Never knew it had the X-3 stuff.
>>96656884neckbeards will try to convince you that Fleem is more popular than a multi billion dollar franchise
I'm about to pay $86 for a Lumra, Exploration and Traveling Chocobo. Is this fucking retarded or will these cards hold decent value? Am I retarded or not retarded to do this?
>>96656900Yes all the current ports of 10 are based on this collection The X3 stuff is skippable unless you really wanna experience what it's like being a third wheel on a date and the couple starts having a serious fight and breaks up in front of you
>>96656911Two UB cards and one green staple lmao tranny retard No tourists allowed in my game
>>96656911>hold valueJust buy cards if you think they're pretty or want to use them in a deck. I have NEVER sold a card ever.
>>96656938Lumra and Exploration aren't UB, retard.
>>96656911look man if you can afford genuine cards and you want them, buy themIf you're actually concerned about their long-term financial value you shouldn't be spending your money on this
>>96656732>it taking place after the original game already happenedWhat the fuck does that even mean?
>>96656911Exploration will literally always hold value
>>96656732Both of those games are RPGs doe
>>96656972It's Spider-Verse type nonsense it's best not to think about it Letting Nomura take the reigns for FF7 was a mistake he turned it into Kingdom Hearts meets Ubisoft
>>96656911>hold valueWizards roping in gullible tourists, I see their vision now
Today I've realised something. If you make a copy of one of these with Ratadrabik, you can transform the copy, which is then a legendary permanent again, which then can trigger Ratadrabik again to make more tokens, which can be transformed again. I feel enlightened. You can even transform multiple tokens at once to trigger the legend rule to generate tokens. Damn this card might actually be really good in that deck.
>>96656803It is a real post lmao. Youre clearly 21 at most trying way to hard to fit in with the "big boys" very embarrassing give it a rest.
>>96656983No I want an answer. How does a remake of a game take place after the original game. That doesn't hold logically.
>>96656951Bloomburrow is UB just like Neon KamigawaAll of these anime fag sets you tranny boomers forced on us are UB
>>96656984Ngl most of the cards I bought in the last year went up in value
>>96656987... to what end? Double convoke and double persist? They're all 2/2s i think there is much better stuff to copy
>>96656999Convoke is insane when you're starting to produce tokens like crazy and persist basically doubles your token generation. But it's also an easy way to generate more tokens with fewer cards.
>>96656992Bloomburrow isn't an anime set, it's a Redwall knockoff set, retard.
>>96656987Reminder pic related will spike a bit when Lorwyn drops
>>96657017Damn that actually seems like a realistic wincon
>>96656991It's not a real remake it lulls you into thinking it's one, the name FF7 Remake for the first game in the series was a fake out if you're familiar with Rebuild of Evangelion it's pretty much like that. If you want a specific answer then>About 1/5th into Remake retcon ghosts show up trying to "correct" the timeline and they're left vague >Aerith has memories of the original game and has lived through all of it already >Final boss is a full power One Winged Angel Sephiroth from an FF7 spin off>Sephiroth takes Cloud to the FF7 equivalent of The Edge and tells him he's from the Sephiroth from the movie Advent Children and that there's a multiverse out there>wants to team up with Cloud to do BBEG shit but is completely vague >A completely unrelated parallel timeline where Zack lives and a lot of characters that died in the Remake timeline get isekai'd there>Game ends, sequel drops all pretense of a remake
>>96656992If knockoff sets are UB then the game has been almost exclusively UB since fucking 2009
>>96657014>This isn't anime Good to know you're a moron troon
>>96657033>well what about the alt arts that anime artists did huh!?!?!Youre very disingenuous anon. Post actual cards from BLB not special guest alt arts. Doesn't look like anime to me. Cannot wait for internet ID laws so I dont have to put up with larping underage retards
>>96656991>How does a remake of a game take place after the original gameCOME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO JAPAN
>>96657048Hmm still looks like tranny shit to me You will never be a female
>>96657033Impressive.Very nice. Now let's see the standard artwork, or even the normal showcase.
>>96657055Post your ID anon with all information except DOB blacked out please.
>>96657025If I didn't play this game I would say you're making all that up but lmao What was WotC thinking acknowledging the FF7R games
>>96657014>>96657048
>>96657055>Local anon literally can not stop thinking about trannies
>>96657064Nigga stop subscribing to NovelAI plus
>>96657068You're describing the entirety of freemagic
>>96657074>Local anon outs himself as a redditor
>>96657025>call it a remake >it's a meta sequel involving alternate dimensions and multiverse shit I hate Marvel Comics so much for making multiverse elseworld shit popular
>>96657076nigga look around who do you think magic's biggest demographic is why do you think the office secret lair exists
>>96657074>>96657076What the fuck are any of you referencing
>throw together a Garnet deck out of curiosity to see how it could perform>Goldfish a few hands>Manage to assemble a fall of the thran lock 3 times in a rowOops
>>96657068>Local tranny literally cannot stop gang stalking and harassing people until they love their psyop franchise slop
instead of talking about reddit and trannies post decks
>>9665716432 lands ?mulligan queen
If for argument's sake you have a starting hand with 3 lands, birds of paradise, sol ring, and 2 spells with mana value 6+, do you play birds turn 1 or sol ring?
>>96657183it works out somehow
>>96654623Every game I play has at least one person using Final Fantasy commanders but I still to see someone using a Spuderman one
>>96657164Please answer me and I'll post it>>96656887
>>96657184>Land, Sol Ring turn 1>Land, Birds turn 2>Total Mana output on turn 2: 4>Land, Bird turn 1>Land, Sol Ring turn 2>Total Mana output on turn 2: 5Math is hard
>>96656887>>96657191Put in a Mother of Runes and I think you should add Teferi's Veil
I like that they doubled down on mono red, all of the other cards could fit under a Kratos commander.
You don't run combos, right anon? You don't want the game to end on some anticlimax that no one is going to remember past tomorrow, after all.
>>96656714>8 manaOpposite of cool
>>96657209>god of war cards>none of them are from the new dad of war games>>96657214big cards are cool
>>96657209cool, pyrohemia
>>96657209>doubled downHow? Do you know what that means?
>>96657211combos?I just sacrifice my tokens to draw a card and gain 1 life (and sometimes pay 1 life)
>>96657202I'll post it during the day, thanks anon
>>96657094>GarnetI'm so fucking yugioh-brained
So in your LGS how do you handle commander tournaments or something? Are they always 4-free for all?
>>96654838No. I have less than a 33% chance I will be attack by it.
>>96654972>>96654958
>>96656757Actually they explicitly said that while they were using FF7R for aesthetics, the actual things referenced were strictly from the original.
>>96657300Not even remotely true though since there are cards depicting scenes from both FF7R and Advent Children Pic related
>>96657287>$10 entry>$5 automatically goes back to your account in store credit>get put on a signup sheet and the next three players to fill the pod are who you play with>winner gets $15 store credit afterAt the store's old location it used to be random pairings, which I much preferred. It's "nice" being able to avoid miserable players, but there's a lot of cliques as a result.
>>96657300>the actual things referenced were strictly from the original?????
>>96657328Jenova was in the original, anon. That's her remake aesthetic, yes, but she's still a thing from the OG.
>>96657318I'd say that's a bit more lenient because it's a promo/Secret Lair reskin.
>>96657328Listen Jenova was in the original just not a sentient living dude that you fight and it summons aberrations like she is in Remake They knew a normal Jenova from the original would be too boring since mechanically it'd just be Skullclamp
>>96657287>pay $12 to enter>get put in a pod>if you win your pod, you got in a winners pod>you always leave with 2 boosters of your choice>if you win the initial pod, you get another>every person you knock out in the winners pod gets you another boosterThe employees then beg you to take the shitty aetherdrift and manor boosters that have been sitting there for ages. Overall it's a good experience.
>>96657323What if 3 friends just join and bandwagon against you?
>>96657334Jenova in the original is not alive and doesn't fight you or spawn mutants like this This is a FF7R only fight and the cards mechanics are based on her FF7R version, if they wanted a Jenova that would be a creature card from the original and not Remake they would have used Jenova BirthAnd she's only one example of this
>>96657300>>96657334>>96657340Found the WotC shill
FF7 is so popular they're allowed to lie
>>96657351That'd be an awful value proposition. You'd be paying $30 cash for $30 in store credit just to make some guy lose.But it is a system rife for abuse and I fucking hate it. At the start there were some store credit farmers who would win, leave their game (doubly scummy since the idea is to play with the same pod after), and join another. But they've since been excommunicated via bullying.The worse trends I've seen are>bad player who is unpleasant to play with joins his friend who is ALSO bad, thus guaranteeing 2/4 slots are auto-filled by shitters>guy who joins with girlfriend and constantly tells her what to do, brags about his win rate and berates players he joins with>CEDH friends who are always playing Kinnan or some slop and expect you to do the sameWhat you can always do is "wait" and make sure you aren't signing up into someone you dislike. That's what I do, though this has the added drawback of making you sit around for a very long time.
>>96655488The design team hates the idea and concept of trap cards.
Does anyone still play K'rrikI was thinking of a stupid deck idea that's just spending all your life to dump out big demons and such
Local FF6 UBfag here. I've been sitting on this card for a while, I've built Terra and Kefka, Court Mage and I've shoved Purphoros in each of them just to use it, and it's pretty lacking in synergy. Kefka is my man and it will bring me joy to use this efficiently. And so I ask:>how good is he as a commanderEspecially if I want to do it relatively budget>if not as a commander what deck would you most want him in
No more meme decks, no more having fun. You thought it would be funny to play Krenko and Lathril against my Bill Ferny deck?Bring me my Narset, Enlightened Master!
>>96657465Purphoros deletes casuals but loses to interaction.
>>96657094Can you post list or some tech? I'm building her from random crap lying around and could use ideas
Are there any cards in bant that will let me put a card from my hand or field on top of my library?
>>96657465He's the patron saint of goblins. If your commander is Krenko, he's got second seat along with Kreat.
UB should have its own containment thread where all the consoomers can stroke each other off. I think both the mtg and edh threads would venefit from it, and UBpiggies wouldn't have to argue all the time.
>>96657516>UB should have its own containment thread where all the consoomers can stroke each other offTrue
>>96656529Albeit severely addictive, World of Warcraft is the best and funnest video game if played in moderation and if they ever make UB crossover with it I'm going all in.
>click on random edh youtube vid>it's always the same guy rambling about how each of his decks runs 40+ landsare people actually doing this, or is this guy some crazy schizo
>>96657473Mines just built from random bulk I've got lying around from all of the sealed product I've bought so it's nothing special, I removed the fall of the thran lock before uploading to moxfield but the deck kinda just builds itselfhttps://moxfield.com/decks/-Ypsrg6j4UadP73jvS8FJw
>>96657516Oh God yes please
>>96657595 (you)I didn't feel like pulling anything from my binder to put in the deck so I'm not running some of the good/better sagas or protection pieces for it but you could pretty easily slot them in
>>96657589Not all my decks do, but I do honestly think it's better to for the average deck. I'd rather draw a land every turn and cast my commander than draw a nonland every turn and discard to hand size constantly. Obviously it depends on mana curves, but if you're drawing one card a turn and playing one land a turn, drawing a land isn't a terrible thing unless you have nothing in your hand otherwise or in play.
>>96657033>Jumpstart is a UB setlol
>>96657589I tried 40 lands it's bad but I have increased my land count from an average of 34 to 36 and I think my decks are better for it.
>>9665758936-37.
>>96657589If you're running 12 mana rocks, you're more likely to be happier running 8 lands and 4 mana rocks
>>96657607what is "the average deck"? my decks are usually about sticking a bunch of cheap stuff onto the board for various synergies; missing the occasional land drop has been proven to be completely irrelevant for my decks
>>96657669Naturally if your deck has a low curve then you can get away with running fewer lands, but the average commander deck loves big fat cmc cards cuz its a timmy format
>>96657287>buy a pack to participate >that's itMy LGS does it right, commander is supposed to be casual. Adding any sort of prize will only encourage people to become sweaty bracketpushers.
>>96657516You just samefagged twice, nobody actually thinks this because you can't really talk about EDH or Magic in general without UB now. That's literally the supermajority of cards that release now, everyone who plays at an LGS will play against UB cards every time they go.
>>96657287>free to join>make your own groups>first person to win at each table gets a packhelps you quickly figure out who is a massive sweat that pulls out their bracket 4 deck against precons, and who is sporting enough to make sure their deck is on the same level as the rest of the table
>>96657746>>make your own groupsThat sounds stressful especially for new players and probably leads to some groups always only playing with each other.At mine they do a sort of lottery system to determine tables, imo that's better.
>>96657766Yeah I fucking hate the idea of just going to a store and having everyone pre-arranged into groups. Random pods are what I come to game stores for. Otherwise I'd just stay home and play with my retarded friends.
>>96657637Who the fuck runs 12 mana rocks? Why does everything has to be in the extreme? 40 lands12 mana rocksBeyond autistic. Just run 36-38 lands and 8-10 rocks/ramp depending on your deck's mana curve. It's not that difficult to understand.
>>96657766I would prefer some matchmaking from the LCG staff as well, this is probably only feasible because it's a small store (12-18 people each Friday)
>>96657746>make your own groupsI'm having middle school flashbacks.
>>96657604>>96657595Kek honestly this is so similar so what i have in a half built pile, cool to hear that it works pretty well. I took all the 50 cent-ish sagas and ordered them to arrive in a few days. I get what you mean by builds itself. If you want another recent uncommon Haliyah for EoE seems pretty good too
>>96657697>>96657697>>96657697Universes Beyond containment thread
>>96657838only 3 fags will use this and it will be ironic posting
>>96657801You could suggest it to them! The very simple system my store uses is>place a random basic land (or other card type if it's very full) on each table>take enough of each of these basics to appropriately fill every table>shuffle and distribute one of them to every attendant>they sit at the table that has the card matching theirs
>>96657838If you actually want this split then you need to make a no-UB thread, UB is the default of EDH.
>>96657857Unfortunately a lot of retards want to play with the same three people in the end of time. It's part of the reason EDH is full of such awful players. They exit their comfort zone once, get their shit kicked in, then never play vs. pubs again.
>>96657855I was hoping both the people that love UB and those that hate it so much they want to actively yell about it would go there. There's not much of a point in people that love it being here since everyone just tells them to fuck off/ignores them.
>>96657869The thread is for the discussion of universes beyond. I can't make a thread for the discussion of not-universes beyond, that's not a discussion point, especially if it's format agnostic.
>>96657800It's a pretty standard izzet deckbuilder's folly: you're not in great ramp colors so you try to make up for it by doubling down on the ramp you have access to, which is basically exclusively mana rocks.
>>96657882I'm not under the impression that most people here are bothered by talk about UB cards even if they dislike them, it's pretty much just you currently having a meltie.You're not really intelligent enough to astroturf sentiment sadly.
>>96657583WoW truly is the greatest game of all time. Maybe if you joined late I could see someone disagreeing but I've never talked to a single person who had the true (2004-) vanilla experience and doesnt think its the single greatest gaming experience they've had.
>>96657895UB is format agnostic because it's in every format, if you don't want to see discussion of it then you need to make a safe space where it's not allowed.It wouldnt make sense for the default thread to exclude talks of what is now the majority of cards that come out.
>>96657895>>96657882Anon people that love UB are going to just use these threads and ignore those that say to fuck off you can look at the first two posts and see who's going to use it
>>96657800Not twelve but you definitely need a decent handful of <thing> in order to reliably see them in a game. If you dont want that consistency thats fine but then they are just random cards in the deck you'll see once in a blue moon.
>>96657908Vanilla and burning crusade were GOAT but when they started censoring barrens chat and releasing new shitty xpacs the whole thing became lame and gay
>>96657465Holy shit never knew this promo existed. Amano is GOAT, I need this for my purphoros deck
>>96657933I don't think it's a promo, isn't it just one of the bonus sheets you can pull in any FF pack? There's a bunch that use his art.
>>96657947Whatever these alt art variants are called, I need that kefka
>>96657819If you aren't socially awkward, you'll find a game. The groups are mostly the oder in which people walk through the door, an people are generally sensible enough to play at the same power levelYour game store is full of chill people that welcome new players and not clique shit, right?
>>96657637noI want to see my mana rocks every game, that's why they are in the deck. why the fuck would I only put 4 ramp spells in? so I can see them when I want them like 35% of the time? at that point you are better off not putting any.
>>96657958Get it then! For some reason most of these are about the same price as the regular prints
>>96657967Because you're cutting lands - which give you mana - to put in cards which you have to pay for so that you can have the mana which you cut the mana for, you fucking idiot.
>>96657986Not him but that's a worthwhile trade to make depending on the balance of it, you can play a land and a rock on the same turn and be ahead of the curve after all.
>>96657465Purphoros is a great commander and wants to be in or at the helm of any deck which makes a lot of creatures. In mono red this is usually a Goblins deck.
>>96658001It can be, but if you are persistently mana screwed even with rocks then you're just plainly running too few lands.
>>96657986ok then why add rocks at all if you don't have a critical mass of them? if anything you should be advocating for keeping the rocks and the lands in not cutting one for the other
>>96658012Yeah idk how all the "optimized" bracket 4 decks online have like 28-33 lands and maybe a handful of rocks (if even that), that just seems dysfunctional.
>>96658012>ifyeah thats a big if
>>96658025>Yeah idk how...card draw/cantrips
>>96658025they get away with it by having low average cmc, along with free rocks and rituals to quickly get started
>>96658022Because rocks are ramp, but a common novice deckbuilder's flaw is that they will cut so many lands they're missing land drops which negates any ramp one might have done with the rock. >>96658025Very low curve (often in the form of free interaction or spells) + fetches to ensure pips + knowing what the win lines are in the deck
>>96656649nice demoralization tactic. thought you'd sneak one by without me noticing while I was fucking my girl? fuck you!we were having a nice teaparty here like my little sister who used to play with dolls. and just like back then with my sis, all these bullies suddenly came along and brought their own rules while we just wanted to have a teaparty. I stopped those bullies back then and we need someone like me here now just the same. my lil' girl was ever greatful to me and so will all the real players here once we put a stop to this off-topic discussion of not cardboard
>>96658047frankly this reads like you have an axe to grind and aren't actually reading my posts
Not gonna lie the custom card thread should come back.
>>96658117Agreed
>>96657838Cool.Anyway built Kraven, he's pretty fun. Most of the deck is just blowing up big creatures with instants. cowboy-hat Kaervak is an MVP.
>>96654579>TQI own almost every commander that was printed up until about 2016 or so, and anything new is more than twenty bucks. So that's never happened.
>>96658007Yeh I run mine as goblins with some nongoblins like handbags spitfire and war elemental, it's brutal.
>>96658254never more than twenty bucks, even.
>>96658215post deck
>>96657831>HaliyahI was debating on running uncommon Haliya, but she's just a little too expensive to be a 1 card per turn engine Now that I think of it though, rare Haliya actually does work pretty well in this deck, might have to see if my buddy pulled her at prerelease
>>96658263https://archidekt.com/decks/16401227/criminal_kravenI slapped it together recently so it probably has room for improvement, but drawing a bunch of cards while hunting big creatures is fun.
>>96657800I'm running 9 in breya, if you count sol ring. Started with the full suite of talismans and signets and dropped the signets after a while.
What's a good, thematic reanimation target for a dungeon focused deck? I got close to winning a game with friends the other night, but despite having a very big board with some +1/+1 counter accumulation, they weren't getting through big bodies or token spam.
Signet or Talisman?
>>96658474Why not both?
>>96658474Talisman, it gives me control over my colors and it's better at retard proofing my manabase
>>96658486Got stones in your ears? I asked what side you're on, Signet or Talisman!
>>96658486Wasn't a fucking option retardigger
>>96658505Yes that's why I picked TWO mana rocks idiot
Tried out Sophia, felt underwhelming, might got for detective lazav or Eloise instead. Sneaky combat artifacts dimir sounds cool >>96657300Which tbf is based, Barret with the shades was the single best stylistic choice in the whole remake and almost singlehandedly redeems nomura pretending his fanfic sequel is a remake >>96657341Bait or mental retardation?
>>96657516When are you crybabies going to accept the "game you loved" has moved beyond you? We don't actually have 10 years of listening to you fucking whiners wah about images on cards do we? Grow the fuck up or move on.
>>96658474I like talismans, they're more flexible in providing single colored pips of mana for 1 ckc interaction, but I think in a 3 color deck without green you might as well run both.
>>96658474>needs another mana to get mana>needs 1 life to get mana (if you want)easy choice
>>96657516UWH is coming brother, brave the Furby storm.
>>96658604when are you going to accept the "general you loved" has moved beyond you? we are actually having 10 years of whiners wah about images on cards. get a fucking grip
https://archidekt.com/decks/16401360/fire_lord_zuko_mardu_unleashedI need to cut some cards. Thoughts?
>>96658875Sorry, I don't have any cuts but you should have more answers to enchantments. Swap Abrade for Wear//Tear? If Jeska's Will is in your budget its probably an auto include
>>96658910Good picks, thanks
why shouldn't I go to commander's spellbook and then pick the commander with the most numerous and cheapest (usd, mana and requisites) combos?
>>96658933you can, would be generic slop. but you can
>>96658933Because anyone can win comboing off Krenko. Doesn’t make your deck smart, interesting, or well constructed. Are you looking to just go to your game store and win with a smug look on your face, or would you actually like to have a bit of fun? Fuck it man, just play CEDH, proxy huge tits, and only do tournaments
>>96658933Where's the fun in that?
>>96658933my deck had over 60 unique combos, i had to take it apart not because it was too strong but because it wasn't funthe funnest combo decks are the ones that steadily build up to a win using their engines (whether that is infinite or not), the decks that just try to win abruptly out of nowhere are neither fun to play nor play against
>>96658875>all this sorcery speed stuffwhere are you using your firebending mana? especially since you have attack trigger doublers. I can count all your manasinks with one handmost of your instants are white so adding red hardly helpswhy are you blinking?idk man maybe the white outlas creatures. they are quite literally useless because you have like one spell that can put counters on other creatures. and if you are getting rid of the white outlast creatures I'd also cut oketra's monument since you'd only have like 4 other white creatures leftall in all it seems quite a mess and running gamechangers won't be worth it/save you when it puts you up a bracket
>>96658875The entire counter package and a bunch of the single target haste enablers. I'd rather suggest more mass haste enablers. You can also consider Heliod's intervention as a good way to dump a ton of red mana into for good value.Also not sure if To Arms! will do a lot really.
>>96658933Because it wouldn't be that good?
>>96658604Hasbro has, wotc has. Players haven't, this general hasn't. The hardest of core may stay. But mark my words, the popularity of the non UB sets will drop every year as their core fanbase does in fact move on, so there's no one to buy the sest that are was mtg is. Then it will just be UB and engagement will vary wildly between sets, no core fanbase left.Or they can listen to their fanbase qnd just have crossovers be alt arts, still make lots of money (just not quite as much) and retain a loyal fanbase.Personally I have more or less left the game. I just look at what they are doing the following year whenever they announce it and see if I want to engage with any on it. 2026 looks bleak, but Lorwyn might be alright, It'll look at spoilers for that at least.
>>96659093>Personally I have more or less left the gameThen it's no longer your game.
>>96658933So... Teshar?
>>96659104>your gameIt was never mine. I have no control over the decitions wotc or hasbro make. It's not mine nor is it yours or any other players, or even the players as a collective. If hasbro pulls the plug on the game as a whole, what say do you have in that? None, no one does. I used to play Dual Masters when I was younger, they pulled the plug on that outside of Japan, I had no say.
>>96658995>>96659000Thanks, I kneel.
>>96658215who the fuck is this dude and why isn't uncle ben in the set??
>>96659265>I only watched one Spiderman moving growing up and never read a comic what is going on!?!?!
>>96659265he's dead. anon
>>96659274no...
>>96659265He's Kraven the hunter. He was in the cartoon show from the 90s.
>>96658830Based.
>>96659348this but unironically
>>96659348KINO
>>96659348This but unironically, slopper.
>>96659139I don't count combo variants as new combos, at least for the most part. >>96659035how so? wouldnt it net me the most bang for my buck, specially in colors that ofer me a cheap and broadly effective tutor net?>>96658981I was considering that one as a possible commander next to Muldrotha, Alela and Tameshi and Orvar.>>96658980Mostly in creating the index to judge the right balance between ease of deployment, tutor coverage, interaction and inclusion of cheap combos in a cohesive strategy.>>96658954I would like to win, but starting with this systematic approach and then breathing some flavor into it as needed will probably allow me a higher power floor.>>96658942How generic are we talking about? How dissonant will the shit I play be? Is the idea a doomed starting point?
>>96659348yes, and?
>2025>still no creature with Vigilance, Deathtouch, First Strike and Flying
>>96659348Except the UB piggies are nomads, they have not settled anywhere, they are just invading.
I would embrace UB if they at least chose the IP they include in a less retarded manner. Spiderman? Seriously? LotR and WH40K (hell, even AC) made more sense and felt like, in an alternate universe, they could have been just another set of actual Magic: The Gathering.
>>96659460I prefer Atraxa's lifelink desu.
>>96659460Honestly I just want them to print more reasons to play monocolour
>>96659460How about you just be happy about the bird knight with Vigilance, Flying, and Double Strike
>>96659460Does this count?
>>96659463>If I keep saying that UB players literally don't care about the game at all beyond their one IP, it'll be true
>>96659471yeah at least keep it within the original setting
>>96659582Why weren't they playing before hmm?
>>96659631nta but I use and enjoy some UB cards and I've been playing since the 90s
chanses of necroskitter gettin a reprint in the lorwyn -1 counter precon?
>>9665968299%, Necroskitter is BEGGING for a reprint
>>96655663his character was butchered by the trannyslation
