Would Nurgle not be considered the most powerful and influential chaos god, due to the nature of finality? No matter how you scheme, fight, or pleasure, all life must eventually die. Every act the chaos gods all eventually return to Nurgle in his promise of the sweet embrace of death and rebirth.
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What effect does this have on playing the game?Please be detailed and specific.
>>96662862The whole concept of the Chaos God's is retarded as fuck, like most things from Warhammer 40k. You people are almost as bad as the DnD 5e posters who can't stay in their designated containment zones.
>>96662862As long time and space exists there can be no finality
>>96662862And if nurgle were a death god you'd be right, but currently thats taken by nagash
>>96662862depends, a bunch of death is caused by war. Nurgle needs more plagues and disease. He was on top during the black death.
>>96662862I think you're forgetting about the all important power of LYING TO YOURSELF!
>>96663040Fantasy came before 40k, newfag.
>>96662862You're missing the point.>>96662955FPBP as usual.
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>>96662862nurlge isn't the god of death, they're a good of disease and stagnation. also you could probably make this point the other gods even if nurgle was deaththe starting tagline about the 40k galaxy is that there's only war, so khorne is obviously the most powerful god then!tzeentch is the god of magic, but doesn't that kinda encompass the entire warp? maybe not slaanesh
As the Warp is fuelled by mortal emotions, it's not the nature of finality that matters, but the desperation and the despair and the fear and the terror that surrounds it. It's only a rare fraction of people who live their entire lives consumed by despair and more often than not, those lives don't last long. Nurgle only becomes the most powerful and influential god in times of great suffering and helplessness, like when a plague is ravaging a world or a blockade has caused a world to succumb to famine. When entire populations are suffering from the fear of imminent death, that's when Nurgle is at his strongest and when cults that beg for his succour are most likely to form.
>>96662862I mean no.GW states in several sources Khorne is the mightiest, then if they say number 2 it's usually Tzeentch, and they state just as often as Khorne number 1 that Slaanesh is the weakest as the youngest.But ya pretty explicitly nurgle is not the strongest
>>96662862nurgle's the most boring and dogshit of all the chaos gods and who the hell would want to assemble and paint ugly puke green and brown deformed and decayed fatasses? they look like ugly disgusting shit even if you paint them right. the guy can't even get followers willingly and has to get them sick with space aids and them force them to worship him with the threat of a painful and miserable death. the other 3 chaos gods don't have to coerce people
>>96664084I've heard that Nurgle fluctuates the most when it comes to relative power.
>>96663040>from Warhammer 40kKys
>>96662862He is god of decay and stagnation, not a god of death. In reality, Slaanesh would actually be the most powerful.
>>96662862Tzeentch is the most powerful because Chaos is change itself, and he is the God of Change. He's also the most powerful in a literal sense, and the other gods had to 3v1 him to make him break his staff and surrender most of his power to even the odds between them. But that was also just another part of Tzeentch's schemes...
>>96662862Would tzeench not be the most powerful because a river is a different river every second and you cannot bathe in it twice?Idk manIdk
>>96663040This whole board is a warhammer containment zone, that is its intended purpose.
>>96665037All rivers flow to the lake of finality that is Nurgle
>>96663705Disease and stagnation merely speed up the natural process of ending peoples lives sooner, and their undead bloated bodies helping spread the fatal diseases elsewhere.
I think the real question is which Chaos God is responsible for you slipping at work and hitting your head?
>>96662862I'd imagine that Malal/Malice is the god of death, and that's well into "Is this guy even canon?" territory.
>>96665093I mean, you're just wrong. Nurgle isn't about finality. Look at any of his servants (and even his daemons). They're about stagnation and denying that finality. They live far beyond their natural end, they outright ignore wounds, disease won't kill them. Putting down a chosen of Nurgle is one of the most difficult things you can fucking do because they refuse the call of the end. They reject it. Hell, the existence of poxwalkers is pretty telling that Nurgle is a perversion of the cycle because they're just literal zombies, a mockery of death.
it's funny that in fantasy Nurgle absolutely hates undeath and zombies and has made Nagash, Necromancers and Vampires his arch enemies yet in 40k he's the originator of the zombie virus
>>96662955No bro you don't understand this poorly written lore that even the game designers can barely be assed to care about and which has been made up by a steady stream of hack nerd writers over 40 years with no unified vision or understanding of the world building in question and as a result there's no coherence or solid concepts to even argue about since everything in the setting boils down to first grader tier story telling where everything just boils down to AS THE PLOT DEMANDS with no sense of realism or logic applied, and which has always just been an excuse to trick midwit autistic nerds into thinking Warhammer is anything but an excuse to sell .003¢ worth of plastic for 10000x its manufacturing cost to manchildren, is super interesting and deep and needs millions of words of discussion about it.
>>96666710RE zombies is just life puppeting life. Necromancy is sterile bones piloted by disembodies magic
>>96662862Chaos Gods are manifestations of emotions, not merely biology or physics.Perception of entropy, life, death, decay and rebirth aren't the all-imporant to sentient creatures.There's far more to life than "just" living. Nurge is the bottom of the barrel, always relevant, never outstanding.>>96666710Nagash is just infringing on the living death territory.And so does the Rat.
>>966628621 - The universe of Warhammer does not end in stillness, it ends in a mass of stirring chaos fighting itself and pushing to be reborn. All life must NOT eventually die.2 - if you knew the hatred Nagash and Nurgle feel for each other, you'd know Nurgle isn't finality, he is that moment of rot that requires life to be there in the first place, that always require birth to generate more rot.
>>96663705>maybe not slaaneshthe god of trannies
>>96665093he's more of a cancer or parasite (as are all of the chaos gods really) eventually they will kill you, but in a world without death there would only be cancer
