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Why did you deface the OP with "schizoid content" or some shit
>>96665172What's your favourite hilarious historical event?It seems my answer is the sam as yours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIOrqAdS9s
Well, you took your sweet fucking time, what happened? And where's my little "on this day" bedtime story?
>>96665172>What's your favourite hilarious historical event?Uganda sending aid to Britain in the 1970s
>>96665172>What's your favourite hilarious historical event?The end of the war between Aberbaijan and Albaniahttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/PCGAz69x2eoWhen a clown is President...
Can anyone tell me why 1/72 scale infantry figures are always soft plastic, not hard plastic? if companies can make hard plastic 1/72 scale tanks and planes, why not do the same thing for the infantry figures?
>>96670378They're meant to be blown up by firecrackers, nobody expected dork wargaming to become popular
Reminder that pillagefags pay for ai generated rules
>>96670555Rent free
>>96670555Not true.Only some pictures have been made with AI
>>96670378Because with realistic proportions (thin limbs, rifles, bayonets...) hard plastic figures would be a bit too brittle for sustained use.
>40 phalangites assembledJesus take the wheel. Makes me wonder if I have enough willpower and guts to buy more. Nevertheless, even such a small block of pikemen looks impressive, even if unpainted.
>>96670378>>96671537Warlord Epic Scale minis are 13,5mm plastic and Wargames Atlantic makes 10mm hard plastic... but it's true that some are brittle.
Anyone happens to have Warriors of Antiquity by Moongose Publishing? It seems to be lost media, I can't find it anywhere.
The hell is that?
>>96672645A sling
>>96672645It's called "staff sling" (fustibalus).
>>96672645>>96672698>>96672712https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-oZEzHNOw
>>96672555It's funny because that guy was looking for them in 2017https://thetabletopgeneral.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-period-skirmish-rules-where-are.htmlBut It seems that they have been announced but neither been publishedhttps://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/threads/mongoose-news-warriors-of-antiquity-from-victrix.105495/page-2
>>96672698>>96672712>>96672759Wicked
>>96672712well I "didn't know that" (dickhead).
>>96673286kek (laughed)
>>96673286Now you know (retard).
>>96672712A common mistake but fustibalus is the ancestor of football.
>>96673801well I "didn't know that" (dickhead).
I know that campaign-driven skirmish games are more of the alternative wargaming territory but are there any historical wargames that managed to do the "band of your dudes adventuring and progressing in a historical setting" well? Almost every period of the premodern history feels like a great setting for such a system. I'm looking mostly for ancient wargames but I wonder if any historical wargame shines in narrative gameplay.
>>96674069Give me some examples of games you are looking for similar of
>>96674105Mordheim or Xgrave are definitely too complex in their narrative aspect to be copied by a historical system without hurting the historical aspect of the game but I would prefer something more detailed and granular than SAGA or SPQR progression systems. Surprisingly, SPQR Revised narrative bits are quite well developed but missing the punch.
>>96674188Pillage
>>96674069Got you covered, anonhttps://hexhunt.itch.io/sahipkiran2
Dark age irish for saga: Should I go Wargames Atlantic (with maybe some footsore dudes thrown in), or wait for Victrix to release theirs?
>>96676853You already know the answer
>>96672388Also Warlord epic scale don't have natural proportions and are strips of dudes mashed together, with both legs fused together, arms stuck to the body, etc.
New Piano Wargames kickstarterI think I'll back it to get the 33% discount on the other STLs but I don't really care about the Grand Duchy of BadenI wish I could print 28mm but the sad reality is that printing 28mm on a mars 4 ultra fucking sucksWith 18mm I can print about 36-48 figures per plate in 2 hours whereas with 28mm I can only print max 18 per plate and it takes 3.5 hours3d printing is terrible and so I'd rather bang out a whole collection within 2 weeks than spend months printing a 28mm collection
>>96676497I love your work Turk-kun but SPQR system is already much more complex than yours and I'm looking for something with even more meat than SPQR. You get extra points for every warrior receiving experience points and progressing though. >>96676853WGA Irish are decent and you get 10 dogs in a single box which is more than you will ever need. If you want to work on something right now, go for it - there is nothing wrong about that kit.
>>96676965Yeah I think their DA Irish are pretty decent.
>>96676965How about this, then; since you're interested in skirmishes, you can use old school D&D combat rules (moldvay basic D&D if you want a decent one, AD&D 1e if you want all the crunch) coupled with a historical setting from AD&D Historical Sourcebook line?That'd give you a decent combat ruleset, and a well-developed campaign and progress chance.Mind you, then, this would work only the old-school D&Ds, since they're basically wargames with campaign rules.
>>96676960It doesn't matter because you'll be painting much slower than you'll be printing anyway.
>>96677292As much as I would love to try it, there is no way in the world I will talk my wargaming group into something this convoluted. It took me ages to convince local players to try something different than GW slop and slightly less time to talk them into giving historicals a chance. I'm quite proud of assembling a steady Saga group in my area but I know better than trying to discuss and question some of their mental blocks. Basically, if something is not contained within 1-2 books and served in a shiny branded box, their Warhammer-damaged brains won't take it without a fight and I learnt to pick my battles wisely.
>>96677401That's a tough battle and I understand. I've got a warhammer group online, and people are not interested anything beyond GW-products (and only the latest edition). So I feel you...Good luck, anon!
>>96677401This attempt to meme old dnd as a viable set of wargaming rules continues to be retarded.
>>96677491>and only the latest editionGrim. Warhammer was always bloated and poorly designed, even the so-called best editions like 4E suck compared with non-GW games. GW had some bangers like Shadow War Armageddon but they often died because of no proper support and GW hardly teaches their players to put any effort into their hobby. Some of the aspects of specific editions are nicely executed like Crusade rules in the 9th edition but that's enough to make the game a pleasant experience.
>>96674069We're planning something, although more for cold war...Idea is to be somewhere between the Missile Threat mercenary air campaign and Rangers of Shadow Deep - 1-4 players as special forces or insurgents, co-op against flowchart AI, selecting low, medium or high risk missions and trying to survive as long as possible with resupply or extraction uncertain.Aiming for realistic weapon rosters, magazine sizes and weights, some light inventory management, and actual gameplay relatively lightweight but realistic and lethal firearms. Stealth will be key, but sometimes you'll have no choice depending on the missions.Planning to cover the following to start with, will see how we go. Both sides will be playable for each conflict:VietnamBurmaLRDGRhodesiaSoviet-Afghan WarStay Behind in East Germany (cold war gone hot - maybe taking a bit more from Metal Gear Solid with regards the enemies having tanks and helicopters galore)Will start working on this once Ostfront 2nd ed. is finished, which is currently at 89% of army lists complete (covering all of WW2), and playtests are currently going very well.
>>96677731Sounds amazing, but I'm really interested in realistic small fire team tactics. I haven't found a single game that does realistic tactics better than Asymmetric Warfare
Is there a game I can LARP as an Austrian noble trying to save Catholicism from the fat Corsican?I'm not german in any way but I am retarded so I'm half way to an Austrian noble.Barring that, the skirmishes of the Spanish bandits resisting the occupation of Napoleon
Redpill me on Hail Caesar or recommend me a better alternative, please.Warlord's historical rulesets are very hit-or-miss. Bolt Action is mediocre, Black Powder is the worst game I ever played. I didn't even bothered with Pike & Shotte but SPQR revised edition surprised me pleasantly. Is it even worth to give HC a try or are there any obviously superior alternatives?
>>96680050Hail Caesar, Black Powder, and Pike & Shotte are all basically variants of the same game so if you didn't like one you probably won't like the others
>>96680050HC is one of their rare good games. It's worth a try lad.
Has anyone here used "BASIS - Bolt Action Singleplayer Intelligence System" for solo Bolt Action? I don't have anyone to play the game with so I'm curious to know how this works out in practice before dipping my toes in.
>>96680395>>96680495ironic contradiction.
>>96680546Where can I find it to look into it?
>>96680395What other games do people play when they want some good 28mm ancients action?>>96680495What does it do well? What is its selling point?
>>96682264Well if you're a zoomer and think "chat" is a hivemind you have to conform too, yes. Different people, different tastes.>>96683027First, note that the other anon is right: Hail Caesar share the same base structure as Pike & Shot and Black Powder. But in opposition to these two, and especially Black Powder, it captures the flavor of the era and is fun to play.HC is a good mix of crunch, with details such as opening or closing ranks, and fluff, with a referee imagining the worst misheard order for a blunder roll.If you think wargaming is akin to chess you might hate it still. If not, HC offers decent historical battle results while using historical tactics. It comes in a lenghty rulebook but is very clearly summarized in easy to read quick reference sheets so thank God for that.
>>96680050>>96680395>>96680495I'll elaborate. If you like the periods represented in the starters and their minis they are good value and just treat the rules as something to try. Like any basic rules set they can take some hous ruling without breaking. >in Black Powder we adjusted the cavalry to 1:3>we used a 60mm frontage>each turn STARTED with the artillery phaseThat was about that
I got myself 2 sprues of Winter Fallschirmjager and 2 sprues of Winter Infantry, and a sprue of Africa Corps for variety.It gives me 24 bodies with winter gear (not using the AC bodies):>2 Squads of 8 Infantry>Officer with 2 Aides>Scout Squad with 4 men>1 MedicI dont want to buy a full box of either, so i have to wait for some individual sprues to show up on ebay, but i will add one of each winter sprue as well as one sprue of the veteran infantry for more weapon/pose variety, and also the option for flamethrower and MMG teams.Future purchase plans:Warlord Marder 3 (I decided to the the Marder over the Stug, because its open topped, and i like to see the crew)2x Opel MaultierEither Warlord or Rubicon Early Panzer 4Some kind of staff car
>>96683107>If you think wargaming is akin to chess you might hate it stillYeah, that may be the case. I like my rules tight and on point rather than pointless bloat and mumbling Priestley shoves into his rules. He is decent rules writer but a terrible rulebooks writer.Is HC scaling down decently or is it one of those games that folds and breaks whenever you try to use armies smaller than recommended?>>96683149>If you like the periods represented in the starters and their minis they are good value and just treat the rules as something to tryI am this guy >>96672084. I bought a box of Warlord's phalangites mostly for Saga but I actually love their poses and how easy to assemble they turned out to be quite time-consuming still. I just found out LGS has an army box on discount for 80€ so I want to pull the trigger. I hate to buy minis with no specific game in mind so I'm desperately looking for a game that will let me field up to a taxis of Foot Companions, handful of Cavalry Companions and an elephant.I used to play Mortal Gods with my gf quite a lot so I have various Greek minis as well - 12 archers, about 20 slingers, a mix of 60 hoplites (armoured and unarmoured) and handful of peltasts. This should be enough to build two armies in some decent system, right?I'm taking into consideration HC, Basic Impetus and Swordpoint but I have yet to find all the PDFs for it. Has Osprey released any good ancient ruleset that is not a skirmish game perhaps?
>>96682269It should be the first google result
Can I get a qrd on the differences in Bolt Action 2nd vs 3rd? I've heard that 3rd ups the minimum requirement of units, which sounds a bit jewish, but extra info would be super appreciated,
>>96684125Well, it's historical. You can't go wrong. Be it Men of Bronze, Mortem and Gloriam, Hail Caesar, Age of Hannibal, Clash of Spears, Impetus, L'Art de la Guerre, Field of Glory, Swordpoint, To the Strongest, Saga... you're bound to find something to play with your bf.As for your last question the good men behind Men of Bronze released a large scale version of their engine:https://www.wargamevault.com/en/product/319834/heirs-of-empire-wars-of-the-diadochi
>>96685829ADLG 4e was never scanned, wasn't it?Also, is it me or does FoG look extremely... crunchy? It seems to be quite heavy on very detailed rules.
>>96686819FoG is crunchy af but some people like it. I know we have a 3.1 occasional player here.
I've been looking at something new to start (little experience), and I'm down to 4 choices:>Armoured Clash>Black Powder>Bolt Action>Team YankeeI mainly want to paint it and have it look cool. Any preferences?
My first Bolt Action dudes. I really like these models. Mould lines are a bit of a bitch but I'm happy with them.
On the Victrix site I see the figures holding flags or banners like on the Islamic foot and cav figures or the Saxons. But I don't see the flags on the sprue. Am I supposed to just print my own flags on thick paper and glue it to the spears or what? Some of the smaller banners like on the Late Romans have the plastic for it and I can buy LBM decals, but what about the others?
>>96690248>Am I supposed to just print my own flags on thick paper and glue it to the spears or what?Yup. Perry usually puts a leaflet in their boxes with a short infodump on the minis inside and flags/banners printed on the other side. I'm not sure if Victrix does the same since they are not using cardboard boxes but those banners are definitely printed on paper. Personally, I hate this and I find it extremely cheap and bad looking in person, not to mention how easy they are to be damaged. Whenever possible, I prefer to kitbash and model a proper plastic banner by using non-historical bits but I'm lucky enough to focus on periods and armies where complex and detailed flags were not used in the first place.Watch /hwg/ building a stake for me now.
>>96690353Eh if it works...I use cloth samples or really nice origami paper (little bit thicker) and paint simple designs in the latter case I hit the model with a second Testors dullcote. Foil backing also works. Burning the edges of your favourite Abba album cover also good. >>96687742Nice.>>96685829Weirdly Men of Bronze seemed much improved as Wars of the Republic.
>>96690353Hey, I actually like and prefer paper banners, but whatever. Any kind of decently made banner is better than no banner.
>>96690555>origami paper (little bit thicker)Oh, that's a good idea, I'm stealing that.
>>96687742Nice. One day i will get a sprue of all the nations i never bothered with (so everyone besides Soviets and Germans), just to see how their plastic models go together. Pic related are some mid-war winter germans i primed earlier today.
I just want to try replaying some ancient historical battles with a printed map and cardboard markers. The history is the important part for me.Any resources for that?
>>96691876Ohh they look awesome!
>>96692454Lost Battles by Philip Sabin.
Been making force lists for the 1941 Eastern Front in Chain of Command v2. Struggling on what to do with Soviet Tank Desant.It became official doctrine in 1942 to use SMG sections in tank desants, but those came from ad-hoc instances of it happening in 1941. Should I just retain the rule, or adjust it?My idea for adjustments are>Make it cost more chain of command points but let it apply to any section since formal tank riders dont exist yet>Delete it outright>Only allow SMG sections do it, since full platoons didnt exist yet but sections didAny thoughts?
>>96693085Did a bit more research and decided that, for 1941 scenarios, Motorized Riflemen would serve as tank riders. Sorry to take up posting space.
>>96692454>>96693085Lost Battles is available in Rick Roll Trove
I wish there were good WW2 stlsI'd pay $150 AUD for a platoon of good sculpts
>>96693824RKX miniatures and Just Some Miniatures come to my mind.
>>96690248Flags of war and GMB designs might be suitable.
>>96694129I’d second RKX miniatures. Ive bought a few sculpts and they haven’t disappointed.
>>96694129Not really a fan of the style but RKX looks miles better than any sculpts I've seen
Is 16, 24, 32 a pretty common battalion sizing for small, standard and large?What about cavalry?
>>96692454Here's a website where you can get some top-down (or side profile) markers for your cardboard:https://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/figureList/topdowns#83Lost Battles I think is pretty awesome, considering it was written by an Ancients historian that fully realizes the issues with knowing anything about Ancient warfare...By super backlog project is to convert the system so it doesn't use a grid
>>96695027The problem is that they only sell a few sculpts for each of their ranges.
>>96697321You know what, when I first saw this website ages ago I just thought "beeeeuh" but nowaday I'm so burnt I might just print some, glue them on whatever and be done with it.
>>96670378depends on the manufacturer. Zvezda are liked for their plastic. Some of the newer HaT sets as well. Italeri and older Hat use medium soft because it gives some resistance to bending and snapping.
'ate Shako'ate Lasalle'ate Wars of Napoleon'luv me GDA2simple as
Has anyone tried "Heiho" by Helion press? Wargames Atlantic are bundling it with a bunch of 10mm figs, and it's kinda tempting me to try Sengoku-period gaming. (Yeah, 'cause I really needed a new era, system, and scale. Well, tough. I make bad choices.)
>>96701372I have it . My buddies refuse to play with unpainted minis or terrain though so we all have a big collection to paint through before trying it. I will say this, having watched the writer speak about his goals and vision for the game, it's clear he's someone whose down the research and wants to make a game that, while not a perfect simulation, at least tries to model sengoku era warfare. My issue with most samurai wargames is they'll take medieval warfare and slap a coat of samurai paint on it and call it a day. heihos writer indicates hes of the same opinion and that gives me high hopes for the quality of research in the game
>>96701372It's associated with WGA and therefore I will not be supporting it
>>96701603I'm open to suggestions - what's a better way to approach the period? Also, what have WGA done to earn this blacklisting? I'm apparently out of the loop.
>>96665172What is your opiniom on Fake/Custom nations?
>>96701372Never tried but I know they did their homework for sure. Ever it's based on the conclusion of one of the most learned sengoku jidai wargamer there is, either he's the author himself.
>>96701465*she
>>96701626WGA insulted President Trump and the tariffs. Fuck them
I've got 15 more plates to print before stage 1 of my Austrian project is doneI still don't know how to paint these guysI started painting them with just a basic basecoat but stopped because my vallejo black is broken and become glossyIt seems that using a single colour wash, like black, seems to be pretty common to make the details stand out
French VBCI vs Chinese ZBD-05SOVL vs soulless
>played a game of chain of command>soviet player places a section in a wooden church with a senior leader>I deploy an Ig18 infantry gun to root them out>In its second volley I get 3 6's and destabilize the church>the section quickly moves to leave before the turn ends>my light mortar shoots it>kills only his senior leader>he deploy his inferior senior leader to help wrangle the section out of there>my nearby infantry section immediately kills him too>another one of his sections breaks after their junior leader gets stunned>get goes from 9 morale to 2 in like 3 roundsOn one hand I'm proud of myself for successfully taking down an entrenched position like that, but damn were the dice on my side. His T60 kept bombarding a section of mine in a house and never rolled more than 1 6.It was a good game back through, he usually wins so my personal morale is high. Gonna start our battle of Tula campaign soon
>>96701904Glad Hudson is standing up to paedophilia, good for him.
>>96701927https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeMMwDndm3khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rvyokULhcc
>>96704543I'm doing 18mm so I think the painting process is likely differentI have thought about using contrast paints though
>>96702782Why not just print them?
>>96701790Probably Glandeco-Angelinian War, although we're getting into /awg/ territory
>>96706024wutami looking at
>>96701372I came here for the same reason, so I'm glad I didn't have to open the discussion. I have a bunch of 28mm scale Samurai minis and a couple of rulesets for them, and the idea of organizing grand(er) scale samurai battles is tempting. Would really like to recreate the Battles of Kawanakajima.
>>96705398Printing is for faggots
>>96706698Really? Can you explain that?
>>96706066The greatest American outsider artist who ever lived, Henry Darger. A reclusive and deeply religious catholic janitor who was obsessed with little trans girls. He produced a prolific volume of literature about the Vivian Girls and their battles with confederate intelligencia and giant monsters. Painstakingly traced and transfered images from newspapers and magazines in the early 20th century to create his images. His art and writing was only discovered after his death.
>>96707461No one really knows why the Vivian girls have penises. The concept of transexuality didn't exist back then. He might have been gay, but his sexual interests were never mentioned in his extensive autobiographical writings. He certainly was weird.
>>96707481>The concept of transexuality didn't exist back then.The term was coined in the early 20th century and as a concept had existed for much longer. The idea of someone changing their sex or at least appearing as the other sex is ancient.
>>96707612>The idea of someone changing their sex or at least appearing as the other sex is ancient.OK, but is Heiho a good rule?
Base colours are done. I didn't expect to enjoy those minis at all, but now that the fieldgrey and white is blocked in, i really like them
>>96707956Probably too early to tell for sure, unless you just try it yourself. Speaking of, are there any other (good and available) samurai warfare rules to choose from?
>>96707612>The idea of someone changing their sex or at least appearing as the other sex is ancient.Loki's trickery knew no bounds.
>>96707461It is speculated he drew their anatomy this way because he had never seen a woman naked. The usual trans self insert is not required. It's also bizarre to call him the best outsider artist.
>>96708729Christian propagandaThe real pagan loki didn't transform himself into a female horse and then get impregnated by a male horseNor did the real pagans preserve horse cocks and then worship them as a god
>>96708686Looking good homie
>>96710714Uhhh... Nigga .. in the Thrymskviða when Thors hammer is stolen he dresses up as a bride and gets butt fucked by the jötunn Thrym, and this is celebrated in the Poetic Edda as an incredible act of cunning and trickery
>>96711137You can't trust literary sources. Writing is all part of the sorcerous Christian gay agenda to sap and impurify all of our precious viking sagas.
>>96711137>>96713114Okay, assuming at least one of you is a real Scandinavian. Can you explain to me how magic was supposed to work in the Viking age? I remember reading about curses on manhood that required putting a dead horse on a stick or writing the hex on a dressed stone. Is that all there is to it?
>>96713114>you can't trust all the historical sources on the subject, you have to trust... Uhhh... my opinion!!!
>>96714035>you have to trust...Oral traditions.
>>96665172Nobody would happen to have a PDF of Lion Rampant 2e would they? Or at least know what is even different about it from the first edition?
>>96715034>PDF of Lion Rampant 2eMaybe in the Rick Roll Trove...
>>96715034>What's differentUnit names are changed to be more universal, so a Yeoman is now Heavy Infantry or something. Second edition is also packed with extra optionnal rules and scenarios.
>>96715034Speaking of which, which is Dragon Rampant 2 supposed to launch?
>>96716439Soon™
Anons, what are some good options if I'm interested in playing Chain of Command in 15mm?Peter Pig has the perfect range, but the faces are a turn off.Battlefront is expensive, and I don't need whole squads of heavy weapons or vehicles. Also the scale of their minis is on the bigger side afaikPlastic Soldier Company plastics are always out of stock and their 3d miniatures have really sharp detail but don't offer a good range (no AT guns for example)Any other recommendations? I'm EU based btw
>>96717895Personally I use Battlefront because the starter boxes give you everything you need, then I 3d print vehicles. I used the Stalingrad box to start my eastern front forces. It isn't bad to have some duplicates if you ever intend to play Big Chain of Command, which can work on a 6x4 in 15mm.
>>96716439It will launch around the time you finally out yourself as a queer to your already disappointed family, fantasy sissy. This is the HISTORICAL wargaming general bud, we don't play with unicorns and fairies here.
>>96718005Kek based
>>96717895Just play Victrix 12mm
I picked up the Band of Brothers starter set for Bolt Action. It has the third edition rulebook in it. I also have a copy of the second edition rulebook.Which version should I play? Is three mechanically different from two? Any info would be appreciated as I haven't time at the minute to read the books or even build the minis, but I like to go in forewarned and I tend to trust the opinions posted in this general.Sorry if my replies are slow or far apart.Many thanks.
>>96717895I personally use the FoW stuff, just for ease. A platoon box sorts you out for all your infantry, and ebay purchases sort everything else for a decent price.
>>96718216If you have a local group it's probably best to play whatever they are playing. If you don't, I personally would prefer 2nd. They are very similar and the differences are pretty minor, mostly list building shit to make it more Warhammerified with 3rd. 3rd edition really wants needed at all, Warlord is just ran by former GW employees and so they just needed an excuse to resell you a new starter set and rulebook. Old habits and all that
>>96717895There's Forged in Battle
>>96718214>they have 12mm british 8th army>no 12mm afrika corpswhats the point
>>96718214I have these, they're great figures but... I really just find WW2 so boring. Wish someone made dirt cheap but super high quality plastic 12mm moderns. It really is incredible how great the quality is for the size, and that they are so cheap compared to any other metal 6-15mm shit
>>96719223>roll to suicide drone swarm
>>96719378That shit only works with poor 3rd world slavs. Most modern armies have active protection systems on their vehicles that will auto shoot down a drone as it approaches. Most NATO vehicles have systems that can automatically react and shoot down approaching rockets. Slow moving drones are light work
Where is everyone going for a larger selection of Osprey books? The links in the OP aren't as extensive as the old troves were a few years back (and also not as updated, especially for newer titles), so I'm curious.
>>96720151https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/osprey-publishing/
>>96717895I use a mix of BF and Forged in Battle: I prefer metal figures, but BF plastic guns and tanks are great. >>96718214gay>>96719988Bullshit.
>>96708686do you mind posting the colours you have used? i have a few sprues of winter fallschirmjäger, but didnt build any of them
>>96720603fuck off
I want to have a large collection of guard units but idk if I will ever have a chance to use them in a game, weren't they generally kept together in reserve?
>>96721170Its actually fairly simple "slapchop"-slop because i did not think much about the figures initially, i just wanted to have a small german force for some skirmish games like 5 men at kursk and such:As you can see further up in the thread, i primed them black, followed by a white zenithal.Flesh: >Guilliman Flesh (GW Contrast)Fieldgrey: >Landser Grey (Vallejo Xpress)White cloth: >Apothecary White (GW)Brown half boots: >Cygor brown (GW)"black" parts (boots, guns plain helmets): >Occultist cloak (AP speed paint - its a german grey like colour)Wood (and fur at some of their caps): >Hardened LeatherGreen (Grenade tops and gasmask canisters)>Plague Green (vallejo xpress)Pic related is their current state, all are covered by my own "marine juice" universal wash (a mix of brown, black, flesh and green wash with 2/3rds of speed paint medium)The helmets of the two guys right have white stippled onto the dark grey to simulate some worn off white-wash.Ah yes, and i put some gun metal to some parts of the guns and belt buckles. Now only some snow paste to the bases is missing.
>>96722049The Germans had a fur lined version of the field cap? I've seen that ushanka they started issuing but never this. Despite being called ski caps they didn't seem very good for actual warmth.
>>9671998Are you okay buddy? Ukkies have been fighting with NATO supplies for a long ass time now and we don't see what you're describing at all. No one in the West expected drone swarms since we've been toying with expensive and ultra specialized drones since at least the Iraqi illegal occupation amd that's pretty much the role they were confined to. So because we didn't expect it there was no standard counter-measure or doctrine when this shitshow started.
>>96722297There once was an asshole, who invaded three of his neighbors. Nobody likes him, all the NGOs openly wished he would die. One day the IDF or whatever made an excuse to arrest him. The excuse was made up, the man was charged with actual crimes and put to death.The "liberators" fucked up by literally letting an Iran puppet become elected, and backing him. They could've not backed anyone or backed a politician that would bring the nation together.It wasn't really an occupation. We didn't get an oil. We didn't control the nation half as much as Iran or Sunni extremists did.We got all the accusations of imperialism, and none of the rewards.
>>96719988Most Western vehicles aren't fitted with APS because the weight of the electronics and such would be like a few tons at least. Does the Stryker have APS yet?Maybe Bradley and Abrams, maybe.
>>96722284No clue if its legit, but a quick google for "german field cap with fur" brings up this as an example:https://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/1942-german-army-winter-fur-cap.html
Anyone going to Partizan tomorrow?
>>96721749Are you talking about Soviet Guards divisions? They were used in battle plenty
>>96722342>alright gents, stand in a table-wide line and shoot!Napoleonics are such a bore
>>96722334That's what I was talking about when I said Ushanka. I did find this which appears to be a genuine item. Appears to be Luftwaffe.
>>96722318>Amerigolem complaining it got shitted on while Israel got away laughing.It's why I never could get into The Labyrinth by GMT. The so called War On Terror was 100% a plot by the US military warmachine on behalf of Israel and any strategic boardgame feigning to ignore that is misunderstanding its own topic.
>>96722284It seems there was some makeshift/selfmade caps like this, like adding fur to regular field caps to cover the ears, but the Luftwaffe also had their own design.
>>96722368Makes sense i guess, since the heads with those caps are from the Fallschirmjager box. The sprues of "Winter Infantry" did not have this type of caps included. I'm not super autistic about that, given that i converted my Fallshirmjager to regular Heer anyway. I think those diamond pattern padded pants were luftwaffe only as well.
>>96722368They ask for almost 600 for pic related, so its probably real too.
>>96722358What game do you play, anon?
>>96722358>doesn't understand the romance of Napoleon in Egypt or horse and musket warfare or tabletop wargamingTime marked, againStop with the low iq bait and post something coolYou need a welfare check
>>96722447Chain of Command>>96722513I see the appeal of playing Napoleonics at a scale such as Kriegspiel, where most of the actual interesting tactics took place. But on the scale most tabletops represent it's usually just two long lines rolling dice at each other. Perhaps I just haven't seen an example of a good Napoleonic game, but most look pretty dull gameplay wise
>>96721148>I use a mix of BF and Forged in Battle: I prefer metal figuresWoke transgender gayish
>>96721749Old Guard was very rarely engaged before 1812.But Young Guard units saw action much more often.In 1814, most French units were either Guard or conscripts, and there were even Young Guard units that were actually conscripts.
>>96722620>But on the scale most tabletops represent it's usually just two long lines rolling dice at each other.This assertion is so weak.And what are WW2 games? Just some blobs rolling dice at each other?
>>96722775World War 2 contains a higher degree of maneuver compared to Napoleonics as well as the asymmetry between infantry and armor.
>>96722620>WW2*Yawn*
>>96722620Disagree. Grand tactical is great, but the same can be said of ancient and medieval wargaming which is very much about maintaining a coherent battleline and pressuring the enemy so a lot is packed into a tight space and the deployment and terrain is a big factor. I think some people create these autistic categorisation errors. It's ok when it helps you get something done, like when I work on Dark Ages stuff I think about Late Rome and how it encompasses a little bit of the medieval world and ancient, or how I might use them in fantasy games. But when it's "your period is shit at brigade level" one can but shrug.
>>96722747Lot of Middle Guard stationed in the Peninsula.
>>96722874What's a good Napoleonic ruleset that makes two long lines clashing mechanically interesting?
>>96722889That's not even what is happening in the picture you posted.
>>96722905>Line A is deployed and waiting for line B to deploy
>>96722952Who gives a shit, you're only here to make the board suck. If you come here just to argue and mug the other punters because your perspective is busted by agoraphobia, who gives a shit? It's not like you'll start playing General D'Armee in 28mm lol. Rack off you sad little pest
>>96723128Is General D'Armee a ruleset that makes Napoleonic warfare fun to play? What about it achieves this?
>>96722779>World War 2 contains a higher degree of maneuver compared to Napoleonics as well as the asymmetry between infantry and armor.And Cavalry is "symetrical" to Infantry? You think that just because you are an asshole with 4 legs like an ass.>>96722952>Line A is deployed and waiting for line B to deployLearn your history, faggot, Napoleonic period put an end to pure linear tactics with attack column and swarm of skirmishers.
>>96723659Cavalry also exists within WW2Also>Napoleonic warfare wasn't just lines, it also had columns
>>96723730>Cavalry also exists within WW2Yes it exists, but how cavaliers fought?
>>96724287With big'uns.
>>96724287https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Teruel
>>96724380>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_TeruelSo you give an article about a battle in the Spanish Civil War and we can read that it was:"A massive cavalry charge, one of the last in the history of warfare (there were one or two exceptions near the Caspian Sea during World War II)"
>>96724287Can you rewrite your post in English?
>>96724456Thanks for reading it Anon. Now you know when Cavalry stopped fighting as Cavalry.
>>96724456>>96724922Last cavalry charge took place in 1945. Some say there was few more after that but they achieved nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Schoenfeld
>>96724993In 2001 US Special Forces conducted a cavalry charge at Mazar-i-Sharif in Afghanistan.
>>96725229Didn't know that. Thank you for that fine information sir.
>>96725229>In 2001 US Special Forces conducted a cavalry charge at Mazar-i-Sharif in Afghanistan.No they didn't, they provided air support for native fighters who were on horseback.
Hey fellas, Where can I sell a ton of historical minis hassle free? Got a huge collection of opened and unopened stuff and need to get rid of it for more space.
>>96725621Post pics, you can offload to me
>>96725465This lmao, bro is retelling the Hollywood movie version. They rodes horses, yes, but to cover Afghanistans mountain terrain without support. They had guns, why do you think they would do a cavalry "charge"? Lmfao
>>96725656Pics are gonna be arduous But the tldr: 2 sarissa factories Ww2 warlord soviets, americans, Early war GermansLate war GermansGerman vehicles StuartMatildaChar 1 US marines Japanese army boxFrench 1940 full platoon with 2cm AT, at gun, mortar snipers + some tanksManiple of victrix romans with cavalryAbout 100 models of gaulsTons of random terrain 5-6 boxes of medievals This the just the tip of iceberg of this shit I Have to sift through. Maybe $3k worth of stuff if it was brand new
>>96725718How much for the Sarissa Factories? They assembled, painted? Which manufacturer for the medievals? Any pics of the random terrain?
>>96725694I know not of any movie, only government reports:>"a key breakthrough at Mazar-i Sharif was secured by the first American cavalry charge of the 21st century"-Annual Report to the President and the Congress, 2002https://history.defense.gov/Portals/70/Documents/annual_reports/2002_DoD_AR.pdf?ver=2014-06-24-153732-117
>>96725781Yeah it's just embellished. They rode their horses to a position on an overlook above a valley. They coordinated air support while their Afghan partners attacked the objective below
>>96725806
>>96725781>-Annual Report to the President and the Congress, 2002>https://history.defense.gov/Portals/70/Documents/annual_reports/2002_DoD_AR.pdf?ver=2014-06-24-153732-117Source: Donald Rumsfeld... Trust him.By the way, have weapons of mass destruction been found in Iraq?
>>96724456Bolt Action next Spain splatbook confirmed to be all about cavalry charges.
>>96722049thanks man, that helps a lot
I'm bored, anybody have questions about Mesoamerican warfare, weapons, etc?
>>96722049Looks good, slapchop actually works great if you go back and boost a couple of highlights and or shade. It really tells you where to put it
>>96727398i suspect the GOLD and GOLD was played up a lil for the sake of government interest but it is really f cool
>>96718061anon that is a fantastic scenethank you
>>96711137nobody could tuck like Thor
>>96727598I'm not sure I understand the question/statement with the gold there.If you mean "they didn't really use gold on their shields and the jackets/tunics, did they", Yeah, they did, though the gold plates/inlays were aesthetic mostly rather then functional, and obviously only higher status soldiers would have that, the golden jacket/war tunic especially was very limited
>>96721148I checked on Forged In Battle thanks to your post and they have a cool range of Ancients. Thanks anon.But 50+£ for an army is really steep for me though. I wish Warlord Games didn't drop the ball on us with its Epic range (Celt box is twice the price of Roman/Carthaginian and no Greek yet, maybe ever) because the initial pricing was really attractive to me.
>>96727398You should design a quick beer and bretzel "wargame" of ōllamaliztli so you can show it to WGA and see if they're keen to buy it from you and ship a copy with their Aztec Warriors boxes to boost their sell.
I got 20 battalions of Austrians, 2 large and 2 standard battalions of landwehr and 14 guns with crew printedGetting more STLs because they're at a 50% discount with the kickstarter and I feel like printing 16 battalions of grenadiers for the wagram reserve corps just for the sake of it, not because I'd use them
I'm looking for WGR 3,000 BC to 1,250 AD, 6th edition. I have the PDF of 5th and 7th edition but for some reason I can't find the 6th edition one.
>>96725718Hasslefree?Just take pictures of everything, put it on ebay with offer of free shipping, for around 900-1000. (if its really 3000 retail).
>>96730120Greek and Persians are supposed to be coming in the next 1-2 epic releases, or so I've heard. Take that with a grain of salt though, as Warlord does not care about anything except making a quick buck.
>>96727398If you want a random question, there was any kind of perception of "commonality" in Mesoamerican cultures? For example, medieval Europeans all roughly perceived themselves "Christian" in opposition to muslims or pagan remnants, and the rules of warfare changed accordingly. I'm curious of they had a similar concept for "others" bordering them or they were completely culturally scattered.
>>96730129Why would I want to work with libtards?
What colours will go well with black decals? I have a few sheets of pic related so I don't want to buy any of those fancy decals from LBM since they are not available in my country and buying them abroad would cost me an arm and a leg. I was considering painting shields with a mix of red, white and bronze for details and swap them between shields for variety. I'm not sure if black won't end up too dark and blend with red. I was considering purple as well but that one I should reserve for Royal Guard/Silver Shields.
>>96730638Black generally looks really good against a bright red.
>>96730602To get money, fame and women
>>96730638White, off white, yellow, mid-tone red, lighter shades of mot colours, e.g. sky blue.
>>96730638Yellow or a cream white
