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Exhausted Edition

>Bans
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>News
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>What is EDH?
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>WotC's War Crimes
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>Previously
>>96671235

>TQ
What mechanics do you wish will return?
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>>96674468
>What mechanics do you wish will return?
Really I prefer when instead of bringing old mechanics back, they functionally reprint them but with a new Universes Beyond coating so it's completely disconnected from the rest of MTG.
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>>96674468
Battles obviously.
I was promised Battles this year, but what can you expect from Nosewater's crew?
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>>96674492
Unfortunately they are going to do the opposite. They're going to give Universe Beyond mechanics an in-universe coat of paint. Prepare for Firebending to return as fire ritual.
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>>96674468
>TQ.
Food that doesn't taste good
t. Sus scrofa domesticus
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>>96674535
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[spoilers] there's probably a bunch of jews' who play MTG whose feelings you hurt by calling them pigs.
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>>96674468
>What mechanics do you wish will return?
Does it matter? A lot of recent sets just toss in whatever random keyword will sell the most chase mythics, rather building up to the design by using keywords from the set in an exciting way.
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>>96674551
Ooooh i'm really sorry... Poor fucking pigs that eat whatever turd WotC put on their plates...
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>>96674551
I don't pig is a common jewish slur.
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>>96674551
police, too
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>>96674551
I have plenty of other words I can call them but I've been using the mostly on Nosewater
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>>96674514
Did you like Battles or did you like Sieges? Because I don't think Sieges are coming back, they saw little play in Standard and even less outside of it.
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>>96674468
>tq
mutate so i can play digimon tcg in mtg
then we get digimon UB in 2028

i am an oinkmon and i eat waste data
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>>96674592
I want pic related, i liked pic related.
There are tons of shit mechanics they bring back and for the first time of a mechanic there were several that could be seen even outside of Standard like Gobakhan, Ixalan or Arcavios.
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I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP.
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>>96674646
Based and pigpilled.
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SEND ALL THE SWINE INTO THE OCEAN
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>>96674635
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Where are the Avatar spoilers?
The piggies are getting restless
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>spiderman flopped
Can we dare hope the other marvel sets flop too?
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>>96674698
UB DOES NOT FLOP
UB IS A GOLDEN GOOSE THAT NEVER FLOPS
UB DOES NOT EVER FAIL SHUT UP WE ARE CONTINUING THE UB TRAIN FOREVER NINE SETS A YEAR 2027 INCLUDING 8 UB SETS
UB NEVER FAILS
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>>96674698
i really would love if the whole 2026 UB package flopped as hard as possible.
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>The year the slop flopped
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>tq
So with Evoke being printed again, what other Lorwyn mechanics will we see?
And keep in mind that the set will be designed primarily for Commander.
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>>96674720
But.. but the piggies!
They said they were hangy! What about the piggies though!!
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I'm buying nonUB product to protest the UB slop
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>>96674726
YOU VILL BUY UB PRODUCTS AND BE HAPPY PIGGY
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>>96674683
MY TROUGH IS EMPTY AND NEEDS MORE SLOP.
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>>96674683
It's been like an entire week since we had anything spoiled, I need to see what is the next slop getting thrown into the trough, piggy hungry. I already collected all the spiderman cards and made 3 new spider tribal commander decks so I'm bored, I want my dated kids cartoon set now!!!
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>>96674722
Clash was fun.
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I've still yet to finish my Ultimecia infinite turn loop goonmander deck.
Still need a couple cards.
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Reminder: When you let the Hasbro marketing team bake the threads, they fucking suck. You can tell it is a Hasbro marketing thread because they try to deflect criticism of the game or generate interest in the new set. They also create fake engagement by answering their own TQ within minutes.

Also,

HERE PIGGIE PIGGIE PIGGIE, PIG SUUIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, COME GET YA SLOP PIGGIE
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>>96674468
Bring back banding you cowards
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>grognards in 2011:
>”hurr durr why would I buy standard I play modern and rotation is Jewish”
>grognards in 2025:
>”PIGGIES PIGGIES HOW DARE YOU KEEP THE LIGHTS ON BY BUYING”
if /tg/ werent retarded they would understand how embarrassing they are
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>>96674865
HEEEERE PIGGY PIGGY
SOUUUIEEEEE GOT SOME NEW SLOP FOR YOU PIGGIE PIGGIE
COME GET YER SLOP, PIGGY!
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>>96674698
WE NEED MORE SLOP. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH SLOP.
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>WAAAH STOP CALLING US PIGGIES WE LITCHERALLY KEEP THE LIGHTS ON
exactly, you pig
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let it die so it can be reborn
right now, it is just rotting away
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>>96674468
>tq
day and night
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>>96674468
>TQ
Companion. None of them were strong enough for my commander decks!
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>>96674892
>so it can be reborn
This has literally never happened.
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Just an FYI: I’m saving all of your posts to do a piece in how embarrassing and deluded 4chan is, as well as explain how 4chan is always wrong and has only the worst takes.
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>>96674865
how the slop taste p
How that slop taste, piggy?
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>4chan is always wrong and has the worst takes
usually it's the r*ddit and troonblr tourists trying to own "le chuds" making cancer posts


There aren't even oldfags anymore
they either all fucked off or an hero
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>>96674906
>Pig so mad he will make a whole essay and collab to explain why he isnt a pig and everyone is wrong and being mean to him
Please put this in the collab, i want a good laugh.
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>>96674646
>>96674743
>>96674871
>>96674875
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Why did you guys suddenly start hating on law and order?
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>>96674904
It kinda did with sports cards though, it recovered from its crash pretty well. Took a decade though
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>>96674919
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Universes Beyond is a midwit filter.

>low IQ people
"wow this franchise is so deep and emotional. Spider-Man and Avatar are epic. I love it" *buys a commander precon*

>medium IQ people
"Wtf um ugh this is so cringe. I only want something I can take seriously, man, I'm so above playing cards about superheroes and cartoons. My superior intelligence is too high for such tripe." *goes and watches Tolarian Community College videos and thinks they're high quality analysis*

>high IQ people
"Bahahaha, this is so ridiculously insane! It's a big budget well-crafted fever dream, truly one of a kind! I love it. Yeah! I'll tap my 'Guy in the Chair' to cast: 'Aunt May' *drafts Vintage Cube in his free time afterwards*
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>>96674904
there are 6 versions of the digimon card game
there are 3 versions of the final fantasy card game
dragonball card game? too many to count
yugioh? about 4 versions

with how much money wotc has made from Slop Beyond, they could very well just reset the game
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>>96674880
LETS SLOP EM UP BOYS
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>>96674952
pig hand wrote this shit.
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>>96674934
If this is what recovery looks like, I'm not sure I want it.
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>>96674952
Post hooves (you can)
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>>96674975
sports cards are pure collector slop, not game pieces
hence a more luxury tier pricing
also didn't help when old sportballs card go off for millions

that jewish singer buying the 1/1 for 6 gorillion only did more damage than good for the game
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>>96674975
Wait until you learn of /tg/‘s radical idea to print only a set amount of cards in standard to create hyper-scarcity to drive up the secondary market to artificially increase the price of common staples to further Jew the player base because that’s somehow better than flooding the market with Hank Hill, Propane Wizard.
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>>96674958
The first three are offshoots of a bigger franchise. That's not getting reborn, they never actually died in the first place. I'm not sure what you mean by 4 versions of yugioh, far as I know they just have different formats like Magic does.
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>>96674468
>TQ
Partner. And not the "partners with" bullshit. 3 color partner creatures so I can play a mardu commander with my thrasios and make a 5 color cedh value pile. The precon fags at my LGS haven't suffered enough because they won't play premodern with me, so I torture them with 10 minute turns and easily steal the overcosted promos to immediately sell them back to the store before they tank in price. I made 500 dollars last month because there was this final fantasy city of brass that I was given 300 dollars for, just for slaughtering a bunch of downgraded precons where everyone removes all their interaction for more tribal creatures. Also, oink
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Jannie, if you really exist, please play this wild pig audio in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-UcO_hnApE
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>>96674952
Seth, you can stop smiling. We know you're in pain.
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>>96675009
ygo has
master format
had speed duels
links format which is the digital version of speed duels on the app
and rush duels in japan only

>the first 3 are big franchises
eh
bandai just shits out tcg after tcg
if they can do it, why cant wotc do it?

squeenix i honestly don't know much about
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>>96675045
?????
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>>96674550
>common legendary creature
I know there's no rule against it but something about this just feels wrong. And I don't even mean aesthetically but like. This has to be causing problems in some format or another, surely
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俺は豚
餌を食う
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>>96675095
It's mainly a problem for draft and, unsurprisingly, Spider-Man has possibly the worst draft environment ever.
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>>96675048
So yeah, it has different formats. It's still the same game, nothing got reborn. Modern didn't die and get reborn as Pioneer or some shit like that.
>bandai just shits out tcg after tcg
It does, but you'll notice almost all are based off franchises or even worse UB fortnite slop that what Magic has going on. WotC doesn't have that advantage, if anything pivoting towards UB is them trying to do what Bandai does. Point is, things almost never actually get reborn. If Magic dies, it's staying dead. If by a miracle it does get revived, 99% it comes back in a worse form, because who the fuck would risk their money to revive a failure? They'd try to squeeze as much money out of it as possible.
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>>96675189
Anon, you're talking about a game of which a lot of 40+ year old revolve their entire existence around.
If wotc were to deliberately "kill" the game to reset it, sales wouldn't change.
Instead of "kill" you can use "rebranding", then it might make more sense.

Also speed duel, rush duel and master game are completely different games of yugioh, not actual formats.
Speed duels you could only play with Speed Duels cards and those were cards that had the speed duels printed on them. You could not use non speed duels cards to play even if it was the same card.
Rush Duels cards you cannot play them with other cards than rush duels cards and they can't be used outside of rush duels.

People don't play that game because of the anime, like many retards who know absolutely nothing about the game keep parroting.
MTG is bigger than ygo by a huge margin.
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>>96675253
>People don't play that game because of the anime, like many retards who know absolutely nothing about the game keep parroting.
Literally everybody I know who plays yugioh (tbf not a ton, maybe a dozen) got into it because of the anime.
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>>96675253
Why does Elspeth keep getting flatter
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friends don't let friends play nuMagic
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>>96674788
clash was annoying
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>TQ
how many mechanics still haven't gotten a re-do from future sight? I feel like they had a handful of "yeah we're teasing this idea for the 2009 block" and then everything else was just random shit they threw at the wall and occasionally dust off when they need something to fill out a set skeleton
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>>96675294
Because Loot keeps siphoning away all the tits of the multiverse to open Goyimpaths
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>>96675292
Everybody that got into yugioh has seen the anime, but not everybody who kept playing the game for years did it because of the anime.
I know that a lot of sloptubers and retards keep saying that the game needs a new anime so that the playground timmies will buy product, when it's pointless if the game sucks donkey balls.
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>>96675322
I want to add: Why in the fuck does mtg not give regular sets the border breaking artwork treatment, except for UNsets?
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>>96674698
UBs are legal in all formats so thy will just Modern Horizons the next one and you'll have to play Capeshit the Gathering in all frmats to win
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>>96675330
>5UU Brown 6/13
seems overcosted
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Now that the dust has settled is the planet cycle of any worth?
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>>96675330
They do, I think almost every planeswalker has a border break.
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>>96675319
5
Absorb
Fateseal
Frenzy
Aura Swap
Transfigure
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>>96675347
they're great for cards that want to tap themselves but there aren't a lot of those worth playing
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>>96675330
>7cmc 5/12 green creature
Kinda shit desu
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>>96675350
White Slaver Elspeth
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>>96675347
they are good with kona in standard at that's it
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>>96675350
i mean... yes, but it genuinely sucks that it can barely pass as border breaking.
It's like they are afraid of being more than bland least they actually pay their drawslaves.
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>>96675330
Largely because they want cards (in their most basic form) to be legible and things to look 'professional'. Some minor breaking is allowed (as seen with Planeswalkers and some alt-arts) but unless it's a full treatment they don't really do much border breaking.
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Do your LGSs have a safe space pledge and multiple current thing flags?
I'm not even particularly against like ukraine or gender affirming care but there's something kinda weird about politics in an lgs.
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>>96675330
5UU
6.5/7.5
U
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>>96675510
My LGS has two flags: The American Flag, and the Confederate Stars and Bars.
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>>96675485
>Art goes behind the name text instead of in front of it obscuring things
wow it only took them like 10 years to figure that one out
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>>96675095
Even worse, legend doesn't even mean anything in concept. This "common" card is freaking spiderman, apparently he's as common as bagels and pigeons. I know there's a "peter parker" card but then who is the guy on THIS card?
>He's "spiderman web-slinger"!
>wut?
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PIGGIES NOW THE YUGITUBERS ARE LAUGHING AT US!!! HOW DO WE CONVINCE A JAPANESE COMPANY TO START APPEALING TO OUR MORAL STANDARDS AND MAKING SLOP?
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>>96675552
Forgot pic
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W-where are my endless spoilers... Is the game dying?
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>>96675560
God I wish
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>>96675559
mbt is another clown who doesn't know shit
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lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0fLRtipvgc
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>>96675560
I think so anon haven’t you seen the last three generals? Full of memes and shit?
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>>96675560
mtgspoiler.com
Me? I'm getting tired adapting to endless spoilers
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>>96675592
I'm not saying I made all of them just to remind the Hasbro marketing team that they are SLOP LOVIN PIGGIES, but I did in fact do it to them because PIGGIE PIGGIE PIGGIES EAT THE SLOP, PIG SUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEE! COME GET YA SLOP PIGGIE
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>>96675560
Hold on piggie, some slop is on the way!
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>>96674468
Rebound. I like the value.
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>>96675533
See that's fucking weird too
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Remember when they said that UB was just going to be side-product? Then MH2 was LotR but at least that was "Magic adjacent?" Then they just started printing Fagotten Realms and Spooderman into Standard.
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>>96675719
Money. The answer is it made a lot of it. They go where it is. Also they don't give a shit about playing it safe, if it can possibly make them more money they'll risk it.
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>>96675719
Just got here, newfriend?
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>>96675718
We accept black players, we just don’t accept black players.
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>>96675719
More slop for the piggies.
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>>96675719
>>96675728
LINE
GO
UP
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>>96675719
ITS FOR THE PIG, PIGS EAT THE SLOP
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>>96675719
This game is so fucking over is unreal. Next year World Championship decks will contain cards like Picard, Donatello or She-Hulk, the absolute shitshow will be equally funny, infuriating and disgraceful.
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>>96675719
You heard about your favorite restaurant? That one that usually served your favorite food? Well now is a pig farm and the only food is slop, you have two choices: Become a pig or remain human but eat somewhere else.
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>>96675764
>food analogy
Holy crap, Lois!
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>>96675764
>NOOOOOO HE USED THE P** WORD!!! HE IS DEHUMANIZING A PART OF THE PLAYERS!!!
MARO SAVE MEEEE!!!!
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>>96675764
>you have two choices
>become a pig
>or become a pig somewhere else
I'm tired, Anon.
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>>96675764
HERE PIGGIE PIGGIE PIGGIE, SLOP FOR THE PIGGLIEST LIL PORKA AROUND
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>>96675545
It's meant to be Peter Parker during high school, I think.
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>>96675784
kill piggers, behead piggers, deprive piggers of their UB slop
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MARO MY TROUGH IS ALREADY EMPTY. I AM HUNGRY. MORE SLOP PLEASE.
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SPIDER-PIG
SPIDER-PIG
DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER-PIG DOES
CAN HE SPIN
A SPIDER WEB
NO HE CAN’T
HE’S A PIG
LOOK OUT
HERE COMES THE SPIDER-PIG
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>>96675811
>Magic the Gathering presents The Simpsons presents Magic the Gathering: Spiderman
please boss, I'm tired
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>>96675811
this really is the perfect image for the slop discussion
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>>96674468
I'm just gonna say it, I liked the EOE draft
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>>96675811
>>96675821
>>96675825
firebomb wizards of the coast in the minecraft ub
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Anyway, Battles are much more likely a 'thing' in an upcoming set according to Maro.
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>>96675830
almost as pathetic as the death threats they sent themselves to take over the commander format
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>>96675850
This literally never happened delete your post
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>>96675840
I need Battles and Kindred spells NOW
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>>96675885
I can genuinely see Lorwyn having them as Battle - Eclipses or something, representing the Eclipse areas where Lorwyn and Shadowmoor are fighting each other.
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>>96675840
he keeps saying that but I don't believe him anymore
until battles actually show up again, they're extinct to me
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>>96675885
I mean kindred spells are already confirmed.
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I am not the pig slop guy but I genuinely respect anyone who plays MTG less for playing MTG. Have some self respect. Learn to have standards.
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my mom took a shit and it fucking stinks
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>>96676037
what deck does she play
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>>96676106
idk she talks about liking black alot though
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>>96676123
Wrong thread faggot
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>>96676129
sorry for mixing up the thread for whining about UB slop with the thread for whining about UB slop but multiplayer
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>>96676123
>oink
>oink oink
>oink!
>oink?
>oink! oink! oink! oink! oink!
I don't speak swinese. Where is the pigger translator?
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>>96674468
>TQ
i want a 1/1 with like bushido 10 or some shit
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I will be a piggy just this once for the Avatar set.
Afterwards I will decry any and all UB products
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>entire thread taken over by a literal reddit meme
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>>96676195
it's a twitter meme you fucking chud
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>>96676200
>actually it's... le twitter!
That's worse.
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>noooo the meme is not from epic 4chan
you fags hate fun so much and denounce everything as cringe of course every meme comes from the outside now
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>>96676210
>now
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>>96676210
>now
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ackstually "slop" became mainstream after pol spammed "goyslop" for like half a decade straight so it's actually a 4chin meme (+ anti Maro dogwhistle)
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>>96676217
>>96676220
Yes >now
I've been here far too long
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slop has been around since the 1500s
goyslop is more akin to what everyone refers to when saying slop
so technically, it's a crusade thing + anti 109s war horn
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>>96675622
great another blink elemental now they finally can ban solitude so I can play against this shit
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>>96676283
Read the card, that elemental is shit for blinking.
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>>96676195
Twitter, reddit, 4chan, 9gag
It's all the fucking same today
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>>96676195
>Entire game taken over by a literal reddit meme
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>>96676304
I feel like it's extremely telling that they removed the specialized UB foil stamp
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>>96676304
I haven't played magic in +10 years.
Is this real?
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>>96676288
my bad I was thinking about scam you pay 2 and a 1 mana spell and get a 4/6 that kills something or brings back a creature, but yes seems like their way of saying "g-g-guys look we fixed elementals"
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>>96676314
Sadly, yes.
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Are they still printing the FF sets or it's ended its run? I just got in about two weeks ago and I'm trying to grab what I can afford.
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>>96676314
You better believe in slop tales Miss turner
You're in one
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>>96676314
I have been playing magic since 1999 and I do not want it to be real
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>>96676314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8
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>>96676329
Damn this guy's good!
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>>96676326
>Prowress
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>>96676343
congratulations you passed our test, the Hasbro will contact you within the next 24 hours
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>>96675840
>Kindred
It's TRIBAL
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Bros I am so not hyped for the avatar set, I just want some normal Magic.....
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>>96676463
This is normal magic from now on
Abnormal magic are references to unknown IPs like Lorwyn and Strixhaven
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>>96676362
the one cool thing about this and figure of legend is that they can be downgraded
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>>96676362
after looking up the original I can not possibly explain to you how lame it is that it went from being 6 hybrid mana it was 3 hybrid mana and 3 generic for the ult
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>>96676467
Are those Korean animes?
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>>96676486
If they were Korean animes, they would be made into normal magic anon.
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>>96676362
why would you ever play this outside of a draft ?
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>>96676463
The funniest thing about this slop is my friends going back and rewatching it and going, "hey this show aged really poorly because it's actually just a kids show written for kids and its not as deep as I remembered"
I've been a hater of that show for a long time because of this fact and noone believed me when I bitched about it after it got announced.
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>>96676362
>went from full hybrid to generic+hybrid
lok lok, it's old thing! but we have to powercreep it! look at the old thing and see how the game has changed!
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>>96676526
I wish I had your friends. My “friends” think Korra is a perfect example of gay representation.
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>>96676362
Of all the changes they've made, kindred is one of the few I'm mostly fine with, mainly because the name parallels well with kinship.

>>96676524
Nowadays you probably wouldn't unless you wanted to play a Kithkin tribal deck and all the other Kithkin/Changeling one-drops suck.
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>>96676569
Why are you still friends with them ? Are you a troon ? Only a faggot befriends faggots
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>>96676463
I would have liked it if Korra wasn't such a bad show.
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>>96676569
of course it is a teenage lesbian romance with two absolute smoking hot babes
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>>96676463
I'm thinking about taking a break from standard until they either ban enough shit to allow new cards to breathe or wait for whenever Lorwyn Eclipse comes out. I think it was always their intention for native community interest to drop whenever UB comes around. It seems like they want to just print as many standard sets as possible and strive for the powerlevel to remain basically the same across all of them to ensure standard is playable no matter your play preference. Doesn't really work when they keep printing cards that just make ridiculous amounts of resources for just playing the game normally though!
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>>96676619
ye it is funny i tried to create a whole human deck around "Jackal, Genius Geneticist" in standard on arena, and it is not terrible but the amount of time a dude just cheats in a creature that does basicall everything is insane, also the amount of boardclears available is also nuts
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>>96676619
>>96676724
If I were in charge standard constructed would be the beginner format and standard limited would be what the entire game is based around…
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>>96676599
>Of all the changes they've made, kindred is one of the few I'm mostly fine with, mainly because the name parallels well with kinship.
Just a little reminder this change was made thanks to a Pighead from EDHREC, because he was offended by Tribal.
Consider yourself lucky, he wanted to change it to "Typal"
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>>96676737
This, most don't have an issue with what the name was changed to, we have an issue with why it was changed. The word tribe is not offensive. Like Niggerdesh, the final decision was made by Karens at Sweet Baby inc. who have to justify their existence by going out of their way to find shit they find problematic
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>>96676737
>>96676746
>we have an issue with why it was changed.
Yeah that's fair. It was definitely an unnecessary change, but frankly most of WotC's decisions feel unnecessary to me, so any changes that aren't obnoxious are a win in my book.

>>96676724
The fact that they printed two creatures in the Final Fantasy set that reanimate other things once per turn for free is completely absurd. It's pretty much mandatory to either run one of their archetypes or run Kona just to play reanimator and I hate it.
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>>96674468
I am a pig, and I eat slop.
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>>96676805
Do you really want to dead draw a vanilla 2/2 in commander? I didn’t think so. Bitch.
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>>96676845
I do not want to draw in commander at all.....
The problem right now is that strong cards flood standard right now, the game feels more like a lite version of modern right now
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>>96676845
I don't know what you're trying to say, but I just miss when standard wasn't about getting out a really broken creature and snowballing out of control with it, especially when the cards/archetypes I care about don't get cards like that. I miss the days when you ran a vanilla creature in your tribal deck just to fill out your curve.
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>>96676895
>>96676908
And how much money have you spent on Magic this year to keep WotC’s lights on?

… none?

Then your opinion is fucking irrelevant.
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>>96676619
>It seems like they want to just print as many standard sets as possible and strive for the powerlevel to remain basically the same across all of them to ensure standard is playable no matter your play preference.
I think there's a measure of truth to this.
They're already incentivized to push power creep since stronger sets sell better, embracing power creep also lets new players who only have new cards sniff around older formats without getting instantly destroyed. If you ignore the utter lack of sustainability and power standardization it looks like a means of turning a flaw into a feature.

>>96676845
I miss the days when a vanilla 2/2 for 2 wasn't an unplayable card. Back when things were slower and not every card was designed around making or enabling big plays.
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>>96676949
Standard is supposed to be where new players learn the game and get prepared to rotate out into other formats. Core sets provide common staples useful in all formats and keeps staples inexpensive and easy to acquire. Limited dual-type signposts encourage building sets around evergreen effects with a few more complex mechanics that introduced in each block, which helps new players memorize key terminology and understand basic deck building techniques and interactions. Rotating out after 3 years means new players can enter established formats and provide fresh faces, which Pioneer/Modern/Legacy/Vintage/Pauper being separated only by price point and LGS popularity. There is absolutely ZERO reason to have EVER advertised Standard as anything BUT a beginner format.
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>>96676970
>There is absolutely ZERO reason to have EVER advertised Standard as anything BUT a beginner format.
There is a reason, namely that they want the old guard to be buying the new sets too. If all the real staples for older formats are from older sets, nobody who plays outside standard really has to care about the new sets except for the occasional card that does influence the old metas.
Not saying that they're right to do so, only that it is a reason, and probably a major one they're operating off of.
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>>96676988
I’m really tired so I apologize if this reads like a jumbled mess. I’m just gonna greentext rather than fully articulate.

>standard is advertised for beginners
>standard is the only way to get new cards for every format
>some players stay in standard to fight weak newcomers
>standard profits off of new players and big fish in small ponds
>other formats buy singles of new strong cards
>new cards cause certain old cards to become too strong
>old formats experience ban rotations of old cards
>pauper players rotate to pioneer, pioneer to modern, etc. due to banlists
>going into a more expensive format requires purchasing stronger cards
>wizards finally works out an official partnership with second hand markets
>wizards now profits off of both old cards and new cards
>wizards now profits off of all formats
>wizards now has a reason to ban bullshit cards sooner rather than wait
>game is no longer a dogshit experience
>everyone is happy
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My lgs runs modern fnms with $15 buy-in and it turns everyone into a sweatlord.

Some people bring their whole collection, arrive 30 mins early to see who else plays, and picks a deck and switches out the sideboard accordingly.

I think they are going too far for such small events. Is this normal competitive behavior and I'm the weird one?
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>>96677025
When money is on the line everyone becomes sweaty. The problem with your LGS is that they don’t do the buy in AND force players to post their deck list to the store during registration. Lock out the system two hours before the event, check everyone’s lists before the event starts, and offer a full refund if anyone tries to swap cards/decks during check-in. Your store would tone down that kind of autism right quick.
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>>96677025
pathetic...

I mean I know some sweatlords, but this is kinda embarrasing, also only possible at small events since normally you have to register the day before and submit your decklist

I usually play the decks I like which is mostly aggro and combo, but some guys in our playgroup are complete meta slaves and chase the best decks, which is fine at least they do not borderline cheat to win a local nothingburger event
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>>96675308
>nuMagic
I always think of this whenever anyone says numagic. But like R*sewater instead of the Limp Bizkit man.
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>>96675825
Peter Porker reminds me of MC Bushpig lol. I wonder if we'll get UB: Brutal Horrorcore?
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This game has never been so cooked uh?
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Yeah the game is cooked, but it's also people.
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>>96677546
>This game has never been so cooked uh?
idk, ask Peter Porker
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>>96676801
I like Dr. Who i’m just waiting for the actual real set to come online lol
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(You) are the problem and the reason the game is in its actual state.
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is SBI literally a front for bl*cked? is bl*cked the Federal Reserve System?
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>>96677646
There is no problem, this is literally and honestly exactly what slop troughers deserve and have gotten in regards to Magic the Gathering.
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Lorwyn always harbors dark times. I remember when planeswalkers came out, I fucking hated it and thought the game is going to shit.

Fast forward to now, Lorwyn 2 is coming out, and the game is going to shit.
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Btw anyone know some funky modern decks that are niche but actually pretty good ? i was trying to play a flip a coin deck but that was not very good not enough cards.....
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>>96677807
really depends what you mean by "niche", I faced lantern control the other day and it was brutal
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>>96677807
I got bonked by an Orzhov goodstuff deck the other night. It was refreshing to play against something without blue in it for once.
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>>96677908
I want to play something that you might find on magic top 8 but it would be catigorized as "other"

because I think there are plenty of decent underplayed decks out there it is just that meta slaves braindead copy netlists
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>>96678030
>mfw I maindeck Leyline of the Void and opp scoops turn 1
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>>96675330
Davriel in WAR did this
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https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/print/art-breaks-frame
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>>96677958
I got the same feeling about facing black, as soon as I see a swamp of any land that taps for black i know that thoughtseize is comeing -_-
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got 5 packs of Spiderman for winning FNM.
should I open them? I have no idea what's in the set and no use for any of the cards.
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>>96678187
You should hold onto them, they'll be worth 1000s in the future. Well that depends on whether or not you'll be able to trade them effectively for NewYuan in the coming Chinese superstate after the third world war of 2027 where China manipulated the west to destroy itself.
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>>96678255
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
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3 years from now MaRo will be talking about how Lorwyn and EoE didn't sell as much as the Universes Beyond sets and that it's hard for Wizards to justify the continual printing of Universes Within with numbers like these, and Universes Within sets are going to be canned
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>>96678407
Do not summon him.
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>>96678187
Put them in your trade binder
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>>96678407
It looks like they're trying to take the dark/light plane idea to the extreme, nothing can ever just be comfortable with what it is, the theme has to be cranked to 11.
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>sees the colour pink
>has a social media meltdown
lol zoomer fragility
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At least Lorwyn (the greatest plane of all time) gets one more go before the pigsty stink gets completely unbearable. One last hurrah before the game dies.
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>>96675510
Mine has a rainbow "everyone is safe here" crap. Owner recently apologized publicly because his sense of humor is banter and autty trannies got miffed about it.
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airbending is going to break so many things...
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>>96678731
Such as?
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>>96678365
Sent from the Oracle's cave aka MaRo's ass very true
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>>96678365
He's never going to say that, he's going to say shit like "majority of playerbase prefer UBs" and "only 9% of surveyed players report being overwhelmingly negative about Universes Within being removed altogether"
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>>96674865
Modern was cool in 2011
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>>96675510
My LGS of choice doesn't have any of those. I've noticed a few of the competitive players have the tranny flag on a deckbox or playmats they rotate through even if they are not trannies (no real women whatsoever of course), and at this point I think some of the local competitive teams are including tranny iconography for psyching out opponents.
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>>96678794
Does nothing.
Win.
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>>96674743
Sir your slop has arrived !
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>>96678820
making fun of the game for being slop while using AI "art" is ironic
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>>96678731
blink mechanic where you have to pay to recast the shit unless you get and can keep exile cost reduction on the board, yeah you get to do cast triggers again and get storm count but I dont think thats more broken than just flickering etb cards. It's worse because it requires setup to "break"

I need Avatar cards to be unplayable slop because I cant stand that kids show and I dont want to see it in my card game
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>>96678731
Idk just looks like blink with extra steps at the moment but could be strong in standard anyway, I can just imagine some asshole blinking in discard rats over and over
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>>96678860
that's obviously the joke; everything is slop and piggies want slop so just use slop to feed the pigs more slop
it's meta slopmmentary

And it's not like the piggies even gives a shit about ai art anyway
Just slop some titties and some characters from famous IP normies cream their pants to and you will see them pay google directly to feed them more ai slop
Like man, wotc already tried to push with slop... they will try until no one gives a shit anymore
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>>96678860
Half of the games art is now just touched up AI. Why would a digital artist not just ai it to life then paint over the imperfections. Saves hours of time and wizards doesnt give a fuck as long as they can pay them less than real artists.

Where is this bridge going?
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>>96678922
bothers me more than it should that this land has a legendary naming convention and then isn't legendary
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>>96678922
>why wouldn't artist touch up ai?
because you don't draw
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>>96678922
@Grok make this a cartoon
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Are there any cards in Spiderman that might see play outside of draft?
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>>96678962
>He becomes the sloppiest pig to ever eat slop
Good parenting right there
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>>96675510
I have not noticed any, so
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>>96678977
ey come on
someone needs to keep the lights on!
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>>96678753
>Such as?
The air
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>>96678962
>Taking 10 Tylenol a day.
She's be dead of organ failure before the baby is born. I suppose in a way, the baby would be the best magic player, might need some reanimation spells though.
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>>96676812
Based and pigpilled.
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>>96679034
Or, it survives and it comes out on the very extreme end of the spectrum and she has to feed and change this mutants diapers everyday for years until she finally develops the courage to commit murder suicide
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>>96679054
I'd imagine it would be deformed and screech like a pterodactyl to end it's eternal existential suffering. Although are we not all this baby in the cold dark void of space, upon a meaningless rock in the backwaters of a no-name solar system on the outer arm of an obscure galaxy amongst trillions in an ever expanded universe?
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>>96679097
Weird way to call yourself a retard. This is not a meaningless void, you were created in God's image to consume slop.
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>>96679113
A one-stop shop to consume the slop. You have a fair point, I do have a indefinable, primal urge to consume the next products and not ask any questions about my consumerist habits. I especially look forward to turning on selfie mode, so I may stand, mouth agape, with my 10 crates of UB:Star Trek for my bluesky account.
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>>96679141
I'm sure that will rack up the views and make you a couple bucks to help you consume the next product which, if sky daddy was actually real and answered my prayers, would clearly be The Big Bang Theory. I cant wait for the Bazinga! counterspell. I love countering spells with facts and logic
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>>96679164
I hope so, I just fear that the post-non gender specific person might deliver them to the wrong house. Oh my science, I hope they increase the melanin production on my beloved Data.

Hopefully that's be released as a secret lair drop in a special foil, ready to play commander deck.
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>>96678930
>bothers me more than it should that this land has a legendary naming convention and then isn't legendary
Not the first time.
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Card games?
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not Magic the Gathering
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>>96679287
muslims castrate their slaves
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>>96679333
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>>96679279
I always forget valakut wasn't legendary
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>>96676477
The original was made with the intent of being played for a monocolor deck.
The new was made to be splashed in a green and/or white deck.
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>>96679287
Well they are actually plaing DnD...
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>>96679287
insane how such a minority manages to be overrepresented in every niche and franchise they appear in

this is sexuality slop
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>>96679279
This was outright stupidity from the design team. wah wah we made Legendary suck in the rules so even if we want the cool feeling we can't have it because nobody wants a land dead in their hand. Oh well at least it let Valakut be constructed relevant when it wouldn't have been otherwise.
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>>96679287
Fuck man shouldn’t Magic be about cards and deck building and not about sexual choices?
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>>96678922
>>96679279
>>96679479
Developers not realizing that it is a GOOD THING when particular cards are limited to 1-ofs due to the Legend Rule, as it results in more variety game-by-game, is one of the many crimes against game design WotC has continues to commit.
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>>96679505
it always baffles me when they treat "Legendary" like it's an albatross around their neck (or worse, a mandatory check-off cause of heckin commanderinos) and not a deliberate balancing tool
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>>96679505
Legendary Lands are just usually not a thing nowadays because they play REALLY poorly, unless there's some alt thing to do with them like channel.
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>>96679287
are people even trying to pass anymore at this point ?
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>>96679568
>Legendary Lands are just usually not a thing nowadays because they play REALLY poorly,
Name a single (1) way they play poorly.

>WAHHH I CAN'T HAVE A 4-OF
That is not a bad thing. That has zero (0) negative impact on gameplay.
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>>96679543
>and not a deliberate balancing tool
The things you can do with Legendary are great. It's a huge design space that helps keep plenty of effects in check, and opens up game-by-game variety by breaking decklists out of being nothing but 4-ofs.

The consideration of "How many of X do I include?" for powerful Legendary permanents is healthy for the game and makes deckbuilding more interesting.

Like you said, WotC treating it like an albatross is insane. It's a great design space that opens up a lot of territory and balance options that non-Legendary things simply don't have access to.
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>>96679597
>>96679605
you type like somebody that likes to sniff their own farts so I am going to disagree with you based on that
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>>96679626
> It's a great design space that opens up a lot of territory and balance options
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>>96679706
Am I wrong?
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I stopped playing mtg after all "universes beyond" and i still get reminded how dogshit that game is now.
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>>96679279
why is valakut only 5 mountain to activate its effect and emeria need SEVEN fucking plains?, why the red one is so overly push of this cycle and the rest are utter SHITE?
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not Magic the Gathering
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Magic the Sloppening
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>>96679570
looking like a botched abomination between male and female is their fetish if you havent figured it out yet
there is a reason why everyone says they are mentally ill
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>>96674468
Anyone else slopmaxxing todays epic magic stream?!
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>>96679287
So there is a guy wearing lipstick and a fat dude who put a pink ribbon on his head? I don't get why they have to parade these retards for the whole world to see when 90% of the population think that they are freaks
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>>96679970
there is no way this chat is live or that actual people are posting there
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Instead of fixing this game we have pointless stupid streams. Is really nice to know that the resources and efforts of this company are where they should be
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>>96674468
ZOIDS SECRET LAIR ALERT
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>>96680062
oink oink piggies
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>>96680062
UB should be these. Just art variants.
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>>96680062
This is the kind of shit that gave us UB.
What a disgrace.
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>>96680062
zoids? who the fuck cares about zoids
>I care about zoi-
you know what I mean. how have they already ran out of big IPs this fast? great strategy they got going on
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>>96676801
MORE SLOP FOR THE SLOP GOD.
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>>96680062
SUIEEEEEEEEEEE!
SUIEEEEEEEEEEE!
HERE PIGGY PIGGY PIGGY!
SLOP IS READY!
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>>96680062
that's not zoid, fampai
that horizon zero slop

i played that game because it came with my ps4 back then
absolute fucking garbage
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>>96679287
Troons are some of the most disgusting slop guzzling pigs there are.
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Hey guys, mind if I eat at your restaurant?
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>>96680146
If you are pig you are in the right place!!
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>>96680146
For sure! Our pen is open for everyone!
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TMNT
mutate
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>>96680175
>>96680182
Oh I am only really interested in stuff like Innistrad or Theros. Do you have any of those dishes?
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>>96680100
I know but its funnier if its zoids
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With all this talk of pigs and slop, will we finally get the long awaited UB: Deliverance?
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>>96679605
It was interesting when it was a small percentage of a set, now it's an overcrowded design space focused on commander and sucking the air from every other design space.
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>>96680406
I feel like the focus on cummander is even worse for any attempt to do something creative with legendary creatures than it seems at first blush. when they treat a singleton format as the primary way to play, what does being restricted by only being able to play 1 at a time even do?
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>>96680406
ye it is pretty fucking retarded Urzas Saga had 7 Legendaries in 350 cards and 5 of those are Lands, meanwhile there are 11 legendary version of just spiderman in the new set out of 193 cards
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>>96680406
It was even more interesting when you could kill them with clone.
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>>96680553
>>96680553
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>>96678731
Why would I air bend when I could just use a miriad of cheap flicker spells for value
This is a draft tier mechanic



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