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>Everyone
• PLEASE BUMP THE THREAD IF IT REACHES PAGE 10!

>Requesters:
• Provide good, detailed references (pictures are better than verbal descriptions), so the artists know what you're looking for.
• If you have a WIP quote the Anchor Post, and attach the WIP so your Drawfag can find you.
• Do not reply to other deliveries with a request that the artist fill your request next. This is called 'piggybacking'.
• Do not make multiple requests in the same thread and do not serially request multiple characters after a delivery. Suggesting several concepts for artists to choose from counts as making multiple requests.
• If you're unsatisfied with your completed request, please wait at least one week before you re-request. If someone follows this rule, don't waste posts by complaining about it.
• No furries allowed.
• Stay on topic.

>Drawfags and Drawfags-to-be:
• Drop your tumblrs/websites/commission/etc information, but if you're dropping your commission info, please consider filling a request beforehand instead of just advertising.
• Please keep AI deliveries to the /slop/ threads. This is a thread for human-made art.

Drawfags open for commissions:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L-81QSYzme9NDKLk_G3PE4cYXLuOSE66aKhG1ciIN4w/edit#gid=0

Figure Drawing:
https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/random

Beginner's Guide to Drawing:
https://archive.is/GNIq1

The w/ic/i art Guide:
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

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requesting Howling Griffon riding a griffon on the battlefield.
The griffon can have bionic modifications.

or...
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>>96699378
requesting Howling Griffon hunting in the snow with a pack of Gryph-Hounds.
Gryph-hounds can have bionic modifications.
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Requesting paladin on his knees confronts the goddess of light to whom he swore loyalty. The goddess has a blank or furious look (bright blue eyes).
The background could be a battlefield.
With text like:
>"Now I understand... all the times I prayed to you to lend me your power, you didn't help me because you wanted to face evil or defend the innocent... in the end, you only wanted my soul."
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OP forgot the ANCHOR POST
Post your WIPs and finished products here.
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Requesting an imperial scientist cyborg girl that’s going to be a starter boss in a starwars campaign I’m running.

Basically, I’m not too happy with how my style depicts this dork (a little *too* androgynous) and want to see how she would look in someone else’s style.

Feel free to change up her design in anyway, outfit/body wise I’d want something like the uniform in pic related just some darker colors and maybe something like a lab coat. Futuristic fashy mad scientist vibes
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I know this is done already, but I love seeing dwarves and orcs in rivalry contests of strength. Requesting a sequel of this piece.
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>>96699310
Requesting a drawing of an upcoming npc/ antagonist for a pathfinder campaign i am running. Agatha is a dhampir who is leader of a small crime family known as the rat pack in a city similar to/based on New Capenna from mtg. She looks like a tanned half-elf with long white hair and vibrant orange/amber eyes wearing a black suit with a dark coloured shirt. Feel free to do any artistic liberties with her since i know i am not able to draw the idea i had for her.
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I hope non-character art is also allowed, bros. Drew an underground fortress my character visited on his adventures (I play solo). Thought about drawing it from the side (e.g. my character standing on the bridge and looking at the fortress from one of the sides, with a massive black chasm below) but after some thumbnailing decided to go with this one. I know it's not great, I'm a /beg/, but I had fun! Hope someone likes it
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>>96701695
Settings and items are still /tg/ art, you're good man. For critique the most I can think of is maybe angle the head upwards a bit to reflect the perspective of it being that much higher over the horizon. Nice work!
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Requesting a skeletal druid wearing moss covered robes and commanding a swarm of fireflies during the night like a conductor. Can even have a few of the fireflies in their eye sockets to act as pseudo eyes.
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>>96699310
Draw a dwarf and orc sharing a sloppy kiss while an elf violently vomits rainbows in the background. Oh and make it manly, somehow
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Guys, I have decided to draw two very unique fairy creatures for my setting.
The first one has a magical ability to turn any artistic endeavor into a tasteless photobash.
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>>96703476
While the second fairy appears when it's most inconvenient to imbue a normal discussion with the most potent coombait poison
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>>96699310
Requesting a Sphinx, lower body of a lion with bird like talons on the back legs, humanoid torso, decked out on gold and cloth draping accessories and jewellery, with for wings, two replacing the humanoid arms like that of a harpy and two extending from the lion body.

Thank you in advance.
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Requesting Kobold Fighter, trying to relax in a hot spring
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>>96699310
Requesting Anja, a priestess of Sif, Viking goddess of harvest and fertility. She's a warrior priestess, so she's equally capable of compassionately tending to others while handling herself skilfully in a fight.
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>>96703476
>>96703487
Now draw them fucking each other
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Requesting this image with a deathwatch veteran
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>>96701801
Thanks king!
>maybe angle the head upwards a bit to reflect the perspective
Yeah I was too far into the process when I noticed it xd
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>>96704809
That's vile! You wouldn't want them reproducing
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>>96701188
Bump.

>>96703388
Yes!! Make it happen!

>>96703476
>>96703487
You, my friend, know how to make beautiful creatures.
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Requesting a tiny bitty fairy with a giant hammer with the word "Bump!" on it.
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>>96699310
Requesting an boy skeletal mage with nerdy glasses and an winged cape, a magical scepter, with necromancer ability
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>>96703476
>>96708056
>>96712210
I have decided to put another Fairy in my setting! This one tries to attract traders to the village by simulating a marketplace with undead! But since it's a rotten being itself, it forgets that the people can remember their dead cousins (topic) and smell the rot too!
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>>96699310
Requesting Graz'zt doing the sukuna handrubbing pose. Make sure it has the same lighting and background color please!
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>>96699310
Not sure if this is an /a/ or /tg/ request but i flipped a coin so I'm here.
Requesting Beelzamon hiding under a desk, with the terminator being Yami Yugi with a golden D-ark and a copy of AncientSphinxmon. Also the eye symbol on his forehead is replaced by the Digital Hazard symbol. The joke is that Digimon Tamers uses the in-universe card game to empower their digimon, so someone like Yugi would become a monster without rules to hold him back.
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>>96699310
Requesting a reference for this schismatic-psychohazard slat mantis.

He's a nigh all-pervading cosmic horror demon (sorta), that exists only to add needless chaos to ideal causal systems — chaos which only comes about via overcontemplation of the potentiality of said chaos. An unnatural concept introduced by man, which only serves to enslave man.

You wrestle not against flesh and blood, but this asshole and his kin. Kick his ass whenever possible by not dying on nor adding dirt to shallow hills. Otherwise, collectively suffer pointlessly until the end of mankind as a species.
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For this year’s Inktober I’ll be experimenting with hatching in black and white, to perfect my “retro tabletop book” style.
I’m realising that:
1- it’s actually much harder than I expected. Harder than colouring
2- my level really dropped
Pic related is the best result I’ve got so far (yesterday)
But if anyone of you want something in black and white, feel free to let me know. Preferably monsters. I’ll try to have one drawing done per day.
>>96702450
>skeletal druid
Oh that one is cool as fuck and would work great in black and white. I’m starting with this one
>>96703604
>sphinx
Oh, I love sphinxes
I can do this one tomorrow, if you are ok with B&W
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>>96717036
Lovely job Anon, reminds me of those old maze-like games. May I request a Minotaur? Perhaps our brave adventurer should be holding a sword and a ball of thread?
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>>96717061
Minotaurs are cool!
Want anything specific or different about it? I’ll do it third.
Just putting it out there: drawing the background with this technique takes an inordinate amount of time, so if some of you are ok with just a monster on a white background, like pic related, it’s much easier.
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>>96717306
You do whatever the fuck you want, Black and White Anon. Isn't that the point of a drawing? Do what your heart tells you.
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>>96699310
>No furries allowed
sooo... how tf can one make req involving werewolves, orcs, goblins, vampires, or elves, then?? Is OP retarded?
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>>96717854
>goblins, vampires, or elves,
>furry
Yes, he is but so are you for including those in the list.
monstrous humanoids aren't furries.
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>>96717955
Furries are so socially disruptive and retarded that their only shot in acceptance is to bring everyone else down to their level.
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>>96717854
Would you care to explain the thought process that got you to the conclusion that orcs, goblins, vampires, and elves are somehow "furry?"

Now I am of the camp that there is a level of "furry" that is acceptable, because there are many established races that, when you look at them, you could conclude that that race was made for the furry community (Tabaxi, Harengon, Kenku, Tortle, Loxodon, to name a few). But then there is the fat sumo bear pos that plagues these forms, where it's just straight up FURRY, no ifs ands or buts about it.

So maybe the rule needs to be "No blatant furry requests" because, like I said, there are anthropomorphic races that do exist in many books, and I'm fine with them. But more often than not, we can spot the furry trying to get a picture of his character under the guise of "It's totally for a game, trust me bro."

>Pictured. My Vanara warlock, which was drawn here about a year ago. I don't consider him "furry" but I'm sure there are some who do. But compare him to Fat Sumo Bear, and you can probably tell which one is the "furry player" and which is the guy who just wanted to play a unique race.
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>>96718105
The best orcs r hog people, goblins r either batty or froggy, & elves r lemur-coded it's better then knife-eared apes.
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>>96718163
barf
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>>96718067
sounds moreso like groypers &/or MAGAtards, in all honesty
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>>96718193
Get a job, Royce
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>>96718193
you can't change their history of trying to absorb every fucking thing with a talking animal in it to try and normalize themselves despite being the freakiest degens this side of San Fran
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Just got a soft spot for Genestealers, they cool.
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>>96718215
Are jeans really valuable in 40k? Like are pants that hard to come by?
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Requesting humanoid doberman knight fighting against an army of tabaxi barbarians.
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>>96718215
I know this artist he drew goosebumps stuff and that was cool I miss him tho heard he died from jorking it
>>96718226
Denim is probably uncommon enough for thiefs of it to be a serious issue
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>>96718193
Roflmao, now tell us about how it’s Ze Jew’s fault that furries are getting banned on the internet.
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Requesting a genestealer housewife who loves (You)!!!
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>>96699310
Does anyone have any experience in designing assets? I need to update my books borders, dropcaps and other misc stuff to a more professional standard.
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>>96694862
>>96699802
Did this one from the last thread
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>>96703487
>>96703476

xitter/bluesky troon seethed about AI and people not paying them again award.
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>>96718193
>>96718805
samefagging because nobody likes zoophiles. Color me shocked.
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>>96719886
Too high culture for /tg/. Incredible job Anon. The flowing cape is a really nice touch.
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>>96702450
There you go!
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>>96720744
OR here. That’s some pretty fine traditional work with nice attention to detail on the robes. Thank you very much!
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>>96699802
aspsama anchor
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>>96699310
I was the Requester for the drunk jester last thread (pic related) and I got lots of compliments. What are your socials drawanon?
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>>96699310
Requesting a tsundere dwarf lass flustered as she puts her drow crush in a headlock.
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Requesting this but with an ork, AoS kruleboy preferred but any warhammer ork works
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Requesting a masked humanoid wasp (Wasp Monster girl?) warrior sitting and down and resting with her spear and shield beside her.
she has long black hair with two antennae showing, and her build is built like an athletic Greek warrior (yes, this is a very Greek-Roman themed character if you couldn't tell). As for the design of the shield, I liked the one in the image, but if you can make a more wasp-themed shield, I will allow it.
Her face shouldn't be shown, but if you want to show her mouth while she's trying to take a breath, that's okay.
i fixed the reference
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>>96717061
I look foreward to seeing how you draw minotaurs
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>>96703604
There you go!
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>>96726796
thank you it looks awesome!
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>>96699802
Anchoring Pneumomancer
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Can someone quickly sketch this guy out with more bulk on the arms and fix the arm pointing at the viewer.

Just need a quick sketch as a reference to redo him myself. I'm trying to practice.
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How can I improve shadows on this one. I feel the area around the head seems too flat. Any ideas?
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>>96717061
>>96726688
Well it’s not my best, but it’s there
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>>96733616
He is quite handsome! Nicely done!
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>>96733415
Before you start doing shadows you could always try messing around a little bit with different line weights, go back over your lines and make them gradually thicker in the places where there’s supposed to be heavier weight like around the bases of the stalks or the bottom of the lip.
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>>96729879
I'm not very good at foreshadowing either but i find it easier if things are angled slightly instead of straight on.
Also, arms and other appendages can be constructed as simple tubes before building muscle on top of them.
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>>96729879
Not really an artist but I'll echo what the other anon said; foreshortening at such a perspective sucks if you aren't experienced with it, so it's a lot easier if you angle it a bit.
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>>96736044
>Not an artist

Yet you made that with a mouse, clearly a master of your craft
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Have not been here in a looooong while, fa/tg/uys, but I am back to running games and thus come begging for art once more.

Last time I had this thing done, but it was never finished. Idea is a demon riding a giant man, whose limbs were replaced by sharpened bone.

In my hell there is no material other than skin, hair and bone, so the armor and sword of the demon should be bone, while his cape is human skin/leather.
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Redid the wizard. Still not happy with the hands but satisfied with the overall product
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Out of curiosity is are there any artists in here interested in drawing and coloring the absolute most frilliest and holiest of sparkly princess magical girl Mary Sues? I don't have a reference put together this moment and there's definitely no rush I'm just wondering. To be fair though the idea is very loose in my head right now I mostly have a few build ideas and vibe ideas. And one of the biggest vibe ideas comes from this store I only vaguely remember from a mall about 20 years or so ago that was EXTREMELY VIBRANT PINK EVERYWHERE, no idea what it was called though and picrel is the closest I can find (from "A Pink Princess"). Build is basically porting this old prime Mary Sue idea someone posted in a build thread so many years ago mixing a metric fuckton of shit together to create (and I quote) a "magical, psychic, angelic, fae creature from the Plane of Radiance almost literally composed of sunshine, rainbows, stars, and sparkles" and that's JUST the racial stuff and templates. Class features wise I'm going to be rigging up some way to get constant (or near constant) Sanctuary on her to make it hard for her to be attacked and I'm going to build her with as many auras of whatever the fuck I can find making her an absolute beacon of anti-bad-guy without her ever having to actually attack someone. This will be for a 1 on 1 game I'm planning with a buddy to test out weird shit overall that I'm running and she'll be partnered with some sort of dual shield wielding reach ubertank. I plan for her to also have some mode of transport (one class I know gets a literal palanquin to ride for example) so she won't even have to walk. Basically a friggen Magical Girl Saint or some shit. Got some errands to run but I'll be back in a few hours and if anyone wants to fuck around with this dumbass idea let me know I'll slap together something of a reference with a few things I like.
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>>96739338
I can't help with the art side but it sounds like you'll be using some edition of DnD so I recommend the Apostle of Peace and related feats/vows from the 3.5 Book of Exalted Deeds. Even before taking the PrC you'll have innate bonuses that replace needing any items and a 20 foot aura of Everyone Chill. I'm sure there's some way to swing a unicorn mount floating around.
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>>96740274
I'm using PF1e but I'm very familiar with the Book of Exalted Deeds lol, I've made a few interesting builds with it. Like an Inquisitor who specialized in hunting down hidden heretics... thanks to Touch of Golden Ice lmao. As for unicorn mount, iirc there was something like a Healer or something that got a unicorn companion...? I remember in one campaign I was in someone gestalted that with Paladin and the GM told him to fuse the paladin's mount and the unicorn and he basically got a holy eldritch WALL that he could just pokeball.
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>>96740297
Unicorn mount prc is the Beloved of Valarian. Can be a healer but mainly they're a protector of nature type, eventually gaining Holy Smite and Mass Balefull Polymorph. If you're doing PF1e and Leadership is allowed, you can get a unicorn as an 8th level cohort without needing a whole prc.
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>>96740633
Just doublechecked
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseMh/healer.html
The Healer gets a unicorn companion at lv8. Not a mount, but you can probably convince it to be one.
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>>96740633
>>96740946
Strike that I'm dumb and blind today. It IS a mount technically. It's also a celestial unicorn on top of it. I don't know what book it comes from though.
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>>96740953
Healer does get the celestial unicorn earlier, Beloved potentially gets their unicorn earlier or the same but needs to get halfway through the prc to make it celestial. The Healer however is broadly considered a terrible class as it runs right into the reason clerics got spontaneous cure spells; no one wants to be a healbot with literally nothing else to do. It's in the Miniatures Handbook, which does have a few other options worth looking at.
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>>96741137
Yeah, for this particular Mary Sue monstrosity I'm looking around at a LOT of different things though. Not too particularly in need of a unicorn specifically, I'd also be just as fine with a floating disc or something lol, but it is something worth considering.
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>>96699310
Requesting a pale orcifu ninja, she fights using cutting wires and her outfit has a spider theme.
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Popping back into the thread to request this imperial cyborg scientist cretin from a campaign, originally requested her here >>96699906

but instead of being a bumpfag i decided to change her design up and repost

Draw frens feel free to experiment w the outfit/body design if you want, i havent settled on any outfits outside a generic lab-coat and it feels plain. Anyway, I’m fine with a portrait or anything really.Just want to see her in a diff style
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>>96744026
Ninja orc, eh? Got any references for your ideal body type?
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>>96744897
You do you homie, I didn't get that far, just wanted to drop an idea. If you want you can make her a buff amazon or lanky creeper.
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>>96744975
Or slightly chunky?
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>>96703931
Wow Royce, looks like you're actually improving
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>>96745220
Royce here. No that kobold pic was not done by me, but I wish I am that good at drawing armor.

>>96739011
Weirdly reminds me of Black Wolf from Ralph Baski's Wizards. Awsome!

>>96737238
I'm getting Bloodborne and Silent Hill vibes. Incredible!
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>>96745101
Yeah sure, why not
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>>96703931
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>>96745295
Black Wolf was an inspiration for the facial structure so it clearly shines through.
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Alright I want to upgrade from paper to tablet so I can git gud at drawing and easily redo my mistakes.

What should I get? I have been looking at Wacom One 13 as it is easily available, but I don't know if I should just pick a cheaper one without a screen or just a regular Samsung tablet or something like that.

What do you guys recommend?
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>>96746731
I used a Gaomon P2200 at work for a bit, it's decent enough. I wish they'd put shortcuts on it and installing the drivers is annoying but it's a 22 inch screen for something like 400$ and black friday is next month so it'll likzly drop to 300. At home I just have a 100$ XP-Pen, the deco 01 I think, it's fairly large and there's a ton of buttons and a wheel on it.

If you buy a Samsung tablet don't forget to check how many levels of pressure it has, the fancy galaxy pro ones have thousands but most tablets have 4 or 16, it can be annoying to draw on them.
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requesting my ratling (space sniper hobbit) for a 40k wrath and glory campaign
Ref haphazardly on the pic, key points being
>around 50, bit of a veteran look too him
>augmetic eye
>sniper laser rifle, without a scope (as his augmetic eyes does all the work)
>has a camocloak, otherwise fairly standard tacticool gear
>sideburns
>if possible, engraving anywhere on the rifle "May His Light guide my sight
no specific pose wanted, suggestion being him holding, aiming or taking care of his rifle, smuggling food or alcohol under his cloak; i'd be happy with anything else too really
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>>96746714
You are a man of culture.
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>>96703476
Kek, but puckee pays for his photobashed art that he spams which makes him more of a cuck
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>>96746731
As a digital furry artist, I would suggest the Wacom Intuos. I had one since 2014 and it still rocks after all these years. Its not a screen and you can buy it dirt cheap, but they are built to last. Best part, you dont have to pay for a screen replacement.
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>>96748957
You really didn't need to point out the furry part just so you know, considering the vibe around here it's usually better to keep that card close to your chest if at all possible.
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>>96716784
This one is cool as fuck and right up my alley. I’ll try to make it tonight after work
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>>96702450
>>96721686
Oh, by the way, I improved this one a bit.
The light in the background is much better now. You also have a much cleaner picture
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/r/equesting a full body humanization of my Claw expy fighting man.
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Requesting this little dude as a stealth assassin. Friends and I are trying daggerheart, and I went with a Ribbet poisoner assassin whose main wish is to be able to have toxic skin like some of his other frog brethren. He's based off an amazon milk frog. He dual wields swords
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requesting my level 1 orc sorcerer reblor
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>>96716784
Alright, I’m not sure I understood everything correctly, because that prompt really had some weirdly specific details which I really didn’t see how they could fit together, but here’s my best attempt
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>>96753870
That's actually some solid MSPaint work anon, you could probably even do simple fills around here if that's your art.
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>>96754042
hm sure, i guess ill work on this
>>96704857
since it sounds funny
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>>96704857
heres my attempt
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>>96753993
Looks great, thank you very much!
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>>96717036
>>96717306
>>96726796
>>96733616

If you’re up for more would love to see an old timey dinosaur in your style. Your choice of species, or you can even make up your own!
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>>96755767
Oh F yeah old timey dinosaurs! Alright, that will be today’s drawing.
Well, funnily I made this guy two days ago, which is already kind of in this vibe
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>>96754530
Lmfao thanks
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>>96699310
Requesting art of my Shoony Warslinger

>Dog person standing upright. Specific type of dog is a Silken Windhound, so very lanky with big 'ol eyes.
>Themed on Greek style slingers. Leather stone-throwing sling, targe shield, big ass wide brimmed hat.
>Wearing sturdy leather armor.
>Is part of a national army, so should have the nation's emblem on his shield.
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Hi, I'm going to be playing my first game of D&D, and a friend told me I could get some art for my character here. So I hope I'm doing this right.

My character is a Half-Orc rogue called Grimgar the Prowling Fury.

His mother was an Orc shamaness, and his father was a human slave. He has his father's lean build but his mother's green-tinged skin and raw strength. His tribe shunned him as "diluted blood," too human to be a true warrior, but his mother still tried to train him in the shamanic arts of beast-speaking and herbal poisons. But Grimgar's true affinity lay in the shadows—stalking prey like a ghost, striking from ambush with crude bone knives.

Not going to get into too much more about his backstory here, just that there was a coup by a rival Warchief, Grimgar's mother was killed, and Grimgar was blamed. Killing his pursuers, he was now branded a kin-slayer, but he seeks the skills necessary to get revenge for the murder of his mother.

Description: He is lean and green-skinned, with slight tusks (they may get longer as he ages, but they are underdeveloped compared to other full-blooded orcs his same age).
We wears mostly leather hides and furs, as well as handmade jewelry made up of trophies from his kills. As well as a crafted feline mask that covers his upper face, made by his mother to help him appear more intimidating and hide much of his human features.
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>>96762264
>His mother was an Orc shamaness, and his father was a human slave.
Hot
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>>96757090

I would categorize that as more old timey sea serpent - related but distinct
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>>96699310
Requesting my orc dude going full revolver ronin, it doesn't have to be historically accurate, you can go cyberpunk or sci-fantasy if you like.
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>>96762304
Heh, yeah, that is kinda hot. It's part of the unsolved issues that my friend running the game wanted everyone to have. He wanted everyone to have at least two unsolved issues with their character's backstory to resolve potentially in the game. Mine are getting revenge on the rival Warchief, as well as finding out what happened to my father, as he escaped from the camp before the coup.
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>>96755767
There it is. Still WIP, I will do the background tomorrow
>>96762558
Yeah, I know. This was not inspired by the request, it’s just a drawing I did a few days ago. Check the date
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Starting to color and shade my oc, would appreciate any feedback on the shadow color and placement.
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And with some highlighting. I think the shadows in some spots are now too dark though.
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>>96769932
The more saturated scale color suits better.

Also.....daddy dragonborne <3
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>>96769356

That looks awesome so far!
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would someone be willing to draw my mushroom gnomes? apologies for the slop
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Requesting my PC for an upcoming Changeling: the Lost game set in 1890s England.

Martha is a young governess who was taken by a fae Keeper for the crime of "being too good with children in a public park", as this keeper needed a Mother Goose to fit into his storybook realm. After some time there, she was able to escape and came back to the world changed.

Stuck as part maiden, part matron, Martha has the features of a young woman but with grey, nearly white hair and eyes that are tired a bit beyond her years. She is very polite, standing with perfect posture and a non-confrontational demeanor. This is her Mask, which means while unusual features are welcome (such as her hair), there isn't anything blatantly supernatural in her appearance.

Lastly, her style of dress is fairly normal for the period (see the attached image). Nice, but plain clothes fit for a member of the house staff.

Thanks to anyone who considers this!
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>>96770775
Thanks, I think I agree. The yellowish highlights feel off to me, and he looks better without them.
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>>96771147
Tell me what is his class and history?
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>>96774976
He's a wandering vagabond/cook! Traveling the world to eat and learn new cuisines.

In game he's a fighter, though ranger may have fit him well too. Perhaps in another universe.
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Does anyone know a good place to commission or request a picture of a city? I'd like to have one that I can show my players to represent a location that the majority of the campaign will be set in, because I want everyone to be on the same page as to how it looks and functions and a picture is worth a thousand words and all that.

But cityscapes are not something that people generally seem to advertise as a thing they do. It doesn't have to be super details so long as it conveys the essence of the city, I don't need meticuously crafted buildings I just need the general layout to be on point.

Asking here since its an art request related question that I dont think is worth its own thread.
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Shit huntress
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>>96776486
Fighter, Vagabond and cook? Surely explains his fat hearty body. I am really tempted to draw him. Though....I am scared to do so.
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>>96777023
I would be honored, but no pressure either.

Here is lineart of him with camp clothes.
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>>96699310
Bumporino!
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>>96770873
Here’s my take! I hope you like it
>>96769356
>>96770851
Still working on this one, BTW
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>>96784417

Cool! Excited to see it
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>>96784417
Thank you! I love how quirky they look!
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Just curious for everyone else who is looking for art pieces to use as part of the reference image when requesting. Are you also having a harder and harder time finding non-AI-generated images? Pinterest and Google feel like they are 75-80% AI art nowadays.

Also, do any of you artists find it off-putting if people have an AI image as part of their request?
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>>96786597
As a requester, slop is a cancer and makes it hard to find genuine stuff to use as a basis.
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>>96786597
>Are you also having a harder and harder time finding non-AI-generated images?
On DuckDuckGo, at least, you have the option to not show AI generated images. But, yeah, even with that it’s getting harder and harder
>do any of you artists find it off-putting if people have an AI image as part of their request?
I can’t speak for everyone, but it doesn’t bother me. The only issue is that I don’t know how much I can depart from it, how close it is from what you are expecting.
Like the gnomes from yesterday: the AI images were very cartoony, but I didn’t know if that’s what was expected.
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>>96786597
Slop is inimical to me as a drawfag. If you're willing to degrade yourself with that trash, then you're basically just showing how little value you have for my time and effort, and for the human endeavour in general.
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>>96786597
references are cancer in general because you never know what the other guy actually likes about the reference and he's incapable of communicating it 100% of the time
slop is worse because people are coping on top of it
>get commissioned
>guy says he wants X and provides a slop reference he made
>ask him to clarify because the slop reference doesn't have X
>haha well it's ai generated so it's a lil wonky
>I'm supposed to infer what the fuck he expects me to produce
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>>96786597

As an artist I skip any requests with AI images. I find interpreting the request and reference images to be part of the fun, so AI feels like it is taking that fun out of it.

Plus I think fulfilling them will set a bad precedent and lead to references images that are nothing but slop.
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>>96755767
The other one >>96769356 is taking forever, so here’s a quick one
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>>96786597
>off-putting if people have an AI image as part of their request
I don't care if you found it on DA or something but if that's stuff you prompted yourself you might as well just use it, maybe I can edit a few of the extra fingers out but why bother spending four hours drawing something the slop machine did already.
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Requesting your take on an NPC my party is set to rescue.
>The angel's form is like a cloud of radiance, draped in a tunic of the noon sky.
>Eyes and mouth as lightning, she briefly regards you before turning to the threat, her auburn flame of hair flaring down her shoulders >She brandishes her weapon, a haft of bronze topped with an axehead of searing light, while her wings flow like a gale behind her
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>>96790608

Very nice!
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>>96790773
Nta, but probably because the slop machine sucks?
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I wish I knew how to draw.
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Requesting a pic of a upcoming named enemy my Rogue Trader player will run into. A techno-barbarian warlord based on Thulsa Doom leading raiders and cultists on a post-apocalyptic world where humanity bombed itself back into sword & sorcery iron age-ish tech level.
Yes, i may have re-watched the Heavy Metal and old Conan movies recently
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>>96755767
>>96769356
Finally finished!
I had to up my wave game for this one
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>>96796188
Fuck it, I spent too much time on this, you get the HD version.
>>96794992
You know, give it a try honestly. My girlfriend doesn’t have any technique nor training, but there’s an expressivity in her drawings which makes it still enjoyable.
In the AI image era, I think anything human-made gets a bonus point for trying.
Beyond that, getting good is just about trying over and over again.
>>96796126
Ow yeaaaah I’m taking this one!
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>>96794992
Its not too late to learn. Give it a shot.
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>>96796126
rad concept anon, would love to steal the concept for my own game
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>>96794992
As the other Anons said, the worst you'll be at drawing is how good you are right now. You may have days where it feels like you're making no progress and that's okay, no one starts their /fit/ journey by doing 200lb reps when they can't even lift the weights onto the barbell. Start with basic shapes, disproportionate cartoons, or tracing artwork if you have to; if it's a good enough starting point for the filipino/latino artists that charge sweet $15-40 commissions, then there's a good chance you can learn something from the effort.
Pic related, sketched my thief using some old computer game box art as reference. There are no fewer than three details in the face alone that I feel fall short of my imagining of the character, but I got it done with perseverance and a drive to complete something.
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>>96796259
>In the AI image era, I think anything human-made gets a bonus point for trying
Could have been this for sure but society has always treated artists like dogshit. Ai slop wouldn’t even be as issue on regular social media sites it art groups that banned it weren’t also ran by powertripping psychopath mods and full of pearl clutching non-artists who exist entirely to start comment wars and bitch about any horny art that’s even slightly outside their magical realm. It’s really quite sad. AI slop should have been cause to liberate artists to be unapologetically themselves but the absolute dogshit state of society isn’t prepared for that and sloppers capitalize on that to grind authenticity out of society.
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>>96794992
In the eternal words of Jake the Dog,
>sucking at something is the first step at being kinda sorta good at something.

Get a paper pad and a pencil and just fucking fill the page with doodles. Then tomorrow do the same. Then the next day and so on and so forth.
Use references, trace things, try to copy what other people make and then try to mix things together.
If your hands are jittery like mine, use a program that has a stabilizer, like Krita.

Most importantly: manage your expectation of progress. Learning to draw is a process that can take upwards of years before you start making things that look pretty good. Pic Related

You can do it, the only things keeping you from doing it are time and self-doubt.
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>>96800343
dude, those two pics aren't a fair comparion and you know it. The left is intentionally stylized, and even then it already shows a degree of competence even within the confines of the style

practice can make an ok artist into a decent artist, or a good artist into a great one, but it can't fix a lack of talent.
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>>96737238

>>96717036
>>96717306
>>96726796
>>96749776
>>96757090
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>>96796188
I like your style
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>>96796259

Great job!
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>>96800516
My drawing has been a steady progression from the left to the right. I used to do almost exclusively tracing until I figured out how to make the curves do curves correctly.

Here's something from 2022. As you can see, it's pretty in-between for those two images.

Again, the main thing keeping you from self-actualizing Is the belief that you can't do it in the first place.
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>>96797772
>or tracing artwork if you have to
I've thought about doing that in the short term just to get charart half way like I want. I assumed artists would advise against that kind of thing though.
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>>96800516
>but it can't fix a lack of talent.
That seems like a really weird view. To make 'art' requires talent, but to draw what you see can very well be learned in a rote manner. A talentless guy who practices for 10 years is going to be a better depicter of visuals than a very talented person who has only been drawing with serious effort for a week. And ultimately that's what we're talking about here, we're not talking about being creative or being artful, we're talking about learning how to depict forms in a way better than a stick figure.
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>>96802766
It's bad to form a habit of tracing if you want to stand on your own two feet as an artist, but it's okay as a learning tool to 'feel' the way another artist draws things. It's like training wheels.
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>>96802783
https://www.youtube.com/@JourneyoftheArbiterWolf
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Requesting my Half-elf character with tabaxi heritage.
Statwise she's just a regular half-elf but in the DMs homebrew world half-elves are the offspring of any union between an elf and another race, not just humans, and tend to have physical traits from both lineages.
The party just made lvl 6 and she is now a Way of Shadows traditions monk in addition to being a Gloom Stalker ranger.
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>>96800627
Unholy cannoli this is amazing
>>96802766
>I assumed artists would advise against tracing
I never understood the hate boner against tracing, honestly.
Without even bringing up the fact that a lot Renaissance artists used an optical device that allowed them to do just that. Seems to me that, in art just like in war, everything goes. Some artists straight up paint over a photograph while leaving parts of it still visible and, sure, why not? It’s just a different style.
Tracing can be a good assisting tool in the beginning. Just… it can’t do *everything*. And be aware that, like every assisting tool, if you rely too much on it, it can make it harder for you to get over it when you need it.
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>>96802766
As long as you trace from art and images that are in the public domain or have free licenses then no one who matters will give a shit. That said, learning to draw from reference would be far more useful and rewarding as an artist.
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>>96796126
WIP. Let me know if you would like me to push it one direction or another.
The armour is not final
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>>96809193
OR here. That looks really cool so far!
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Requesting the Imperium of Mankind encountering the Yolkians from Jimmy Neutron during the Great Crusade.
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Requesting an upcoming villain for an old school Viking campaign. He's a high priest of Odin and has been corrupted by a dark force from beyond. Basically looking for a portrait of a Viking Saruman.
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>>96699310
Could I please get a drawing of a cyberpunk crime lord with full body cyberplating and a plated head that looks like a red skull
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>>96796126
>>96809193
It took me a little while but I’m really happy with this one
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>>96817817
Fun fact, I posed for the reference photo I used for this drawing.
>>96816208
In this position, specifically? Any other background infos on that character, that could be reflected in the drawing? Is he Sicilian, Russian..?
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>>96817817
OR here. That looks awesome! Thank you.
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Would someone be willing to make a drawing based on an AI image? I have an idea for a half orc style character who is convinced they are full human despite having the green skin and orc tusks and so on. I might use this as a pc idea or a possible romance option pc.
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>>96796259
>You know, give it a try honestly.
I might, I'm just worried about how long it would take to actually get good, or if I could even get good starting so much later in life than most people.
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>>96820480
Who says you need to be good? Even moving past the part where it's a for fun hobby, plenty of greats started later in life, etc etc, there's plenty of objectively terrible artists that I'm really glad are drawing: see MrCulexus. You don't have to be good to be good, y'know?
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>>96820547
>Who says you need to be good?
Well I saw this digital art piece that sort of inspired me to consider picking up the skill so I could draw that well one day, and it was pretty damn good.
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>>96820480
Listen buddy pal, i used to draw a lot as a kid but dropped because I couldn't put what was in my mind on paper.
When I started drawing again for the purpose of making OSR-like art and cartoonish fantasy, this was one of the best I made.
1/2
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>>96820480
>>96820574
>>96820965
Through practice and trying to emulate styles I like, I've managed to create this piece.
>>96739011 and >>96733415 and pic related

I think it's pretty good and more my own style. However I still have to practice doing hands.
But as long as I practice and draw the same thing over and over until I'm satisfied (or at least more satisfied than with the last try), I slowly get better.
2/2
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>>96820991
Dang! This is quality!
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Bumperino
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>>96823609
Thank you, in my newer drawings with the wizard and monster I decided to use a ruler for the shadow lines which gave a much more crisp look.

I then fucked up the lines on the wizard and tried to fix it by just darkening some areas.

Pic related is another one of my favorites; much more cartoony style where I'm experimenting with partial coloring.
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Bumping my question >>96817855
to this request >>96816208

Or if anyone has any requests for something in black and white “old school style”, because I don’t have anything on the todo list at the moment. Monsters, architecture, sci-fi stuff, whatever.
Here’s my drawing of yesterday.
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>>96832574
I think it's always interesting to see other people's takes.
So can you do my monster in your own style?>>96733415
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>>96832574

Might be kind of a weird request but this giant pumpkin sitting in a clearing in a twisted wood
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>>96832574
What subjects work best in that style?

If firearms end up looking okay, I wouldn't mind a man wearing a light-colored suit jacket and newsboy cap coming out of shadows with a revolver in his hand. The characters red headed and has a thick but tidy turn of the century mustache.
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>>96835660
Here's my scribbled attempt.
colors are pretty light on camera, but my hand hurts
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>>96815597
Here's something, hope it's viking enougj
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>>96836901
>>96836793
Coloring with pencil is incredibly based
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>>96836793
Whoa, based scary pumpkin.
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>>96836396
>What subjects work best in that style?
Anything can work, as long as it’s not explicitly supposed to be very colourful.
Firearms are no problems at all in black and white, although personally I’m a total no gun and can’t draw firearms for shit. But I’ll give it a try.
>>96833129
>can you do my monster in your own style?
That’s a funny idea! Yeah, alright
>>96835660
The other anon gave it a go, but I can still do it. Just to be clear, do you just want a pumpkin, or a jack-o-lantern?
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>>96842498

>The other anon gave it a go, but I can still do it. Just to be clear, do you just want a pumpkin, or a jack-o-lantern?


Just like in the reference - a monstrous pumpkins with no eyes
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Requesting a halfling lancer, she wears heavy armor under a bright yellow tabard, rides a deer and wields a lance/shield.
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Anyone want to take a stab at this Cleric?
I'm thinking of something like a quiet moment at rest where he's tending to his gear.
Equipment maintenance is a somewhat religious experience for him, and so he tends to find a serene calmness to the act. He's an adherent of Helm, and having his arms and armor in tip-top shape is a big priority for him.
His current project is trying to restore an enchanted, perpetually rusty saber the party found in a ruin. Even when frustrated by the lack of progress he ought to still have a calm smile on his face as he diligently sets about his work.
Aside from the suggested scene and posing, a basic "armed and at the ready" pose could work just as well. Same demeanor, but with a slightly hardened expression.
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>>96833129
Alright, I’m taking a first pic of the WIP, just in case I ruin it later
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>>96733415
>>96833129
>>96846227
Finished!
>>96846336
Damn this one is great
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>>96846410
Man I love this, while clearly the same creature it has such a different vibe to it. A much more skulking appearance, and great details on the mouth!
>>96846336
New street fighter boss just dropped. I hope to attain this level of skill one day.
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>>96846336
Oh fuck, is red skull!!!
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>>96746679
Nice, very relaxing.
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>>96820473
Have any other details on the character idea?
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Got this guy that’s like a star wars version of Brock Sampson. Big mercenary brawler type, it’d be cool to see him with some body armor like the top right of pic related, also dude wears a droid head from KOTOR like a belt not really necessary to include though.

It would be cool to have that big dude in a tac suit kind of vibe. Anyway Not really picky about the design or any big changes, feel free to do whatever’s fun just would like to see what someone can do with my guy.
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>>96699802
Here she is
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>>96852041
Ooh nice
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>>96778015
I have made a couple of attempts, but I am rather concerned with how its coming out because (1) I forgot you already have a clothing outfit set up, and (2) I made him too....furry (scaley) bara like.
I got cocky when I was on a marker drawing spree as of late.
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>>96769932
I ended up rolling with it, but I do not have much confidence in my marker drawing skills as I did earlier. Feel free to rerequest.
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>>96855531
>>96855844
uggh
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>>96820991
Good stuff, anon. Keep going! Here’s some sketchy ass fanart.
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>>96855531
please make me believe this isn't a fetish thing, I beg of you, please
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>>96856348
Anon you know in your heart that no matter what anyone says, it is a fetish thing.
It is always a fetish thing.
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>>96855531
>>96855844
Get a job, Royce
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>And furries bitched about the new rule.
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>>96848251

Not really, maybe they are a bit Ditzy but otherwise have fun if you are interested.
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>>96856818
>they
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>>96855531
>>96855844
>>96855926
I am sorry.
>>96856348
Not necessarily a fetish thing.
>>96856690
I have one and I am happy with it.
>>96856818
A Ditzy orc? Thats unusual.
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>>96856131
Much obliged.

Looking at your version I felt something was missing...
Then as I looked back at my own creation I realised that I for some reason found it funny to give my bugbear the inclination of a fat fucking cock. I don't know why... Probably fucked something up and thought I could fix it with a bulge

Yours is great without the bulge actually
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>>96835660
>>96844559
There you go!
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These threads are some of the nicest on /tg/. These and the terrain building ones.
I’m wondering if it has something to do with having to actually sit down and make something, to be able to participate.
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>>96860831
Here’s the HD version
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>>96856348
>>96856589
Nope, Royce is a 31 year old, unemployed california blight who only does this fatass furshit (he also draws fucking vore and has the nerve to suggest that he doesn't draw porn) and has never positively contributed to these threads. He is the tg drawthread's Chris Chan and has been rightfully hated here for several years.

This piece of shit has no redeeming qualities and is a blubbery, embarrassingly shameful example of why furries are fucking community ruiners.
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>>96862573
well i think the fox anon has wonderful arts and contributions to the Thread
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>>96862669
>the fox anon
Almost had me there for a second. As if that fat retard didn't stamp his name on fucking everything and wasn't recognizable for lack of talent from a mile away.
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>>96860831
Question. Do you practice the ancient art of 80s b/w DnD illustration?
>>96858841
I agree. It's weird to add in the buldge.
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>>96762264
Im currently at work and very very buisy with stuff. Were you thinking of something like this. (Rough rough sketch with stolen office supplyes, )

If yes i will do it digitally but it might take a good while (i am very buisy with non art stuff)

If you would like to provide some imput i will gladly listen

The black stuff on the mask us supst t b a handprint as an idea on the mask but i can easily scrap that
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>>96858841
Bulge noticed.
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>>96866624
Should have made the elf a twink
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>>96866624
Why does she have two right hands?
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>>96868773
kek clearly AI
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>>96820473
Not the other anon, but i might doodle this one. Any other design notes or outfit references - or ill just edit the outfit as i see fit
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>>96866237
I'm the requester here. This is looking cool. I like your idea of the handprint on the mask. I'll probably have that be his mother's handprint. I can't think of any changes necessary.
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>>96869361

Take some creative liberties with the design since its made with AI anyway. I'm looking forward to what people might create.
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>>96820473
>>96869361
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>>96870773
i wanted to add something to the legs so there isnt so much of a bare area, but couldnt think of anything really
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>>96870773
shaded the big one a bit more for contrast and fixed a fatal blunder
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>>96870773
>>96870811

Holy crap i wasn't expecting a whole ref sheet, but I'm glad it seems you had fun with the idea. Thanks for all your hard work.
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>>96870915
No problem. Also because it wasnt necessarily that clear, the cutouts are arranged so that you can hopefully swap them out without TOO much hassle (even something like ibispaint on mobile should be good enough). Same reason for the majority of the pic being uncolored. Parts are for the sort of showgirl dress i swapped the crotch flap leotard for, but i also included the leotard (and attached the collar to it)
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>>96778015
A second attempt has been made....maybe someone else should do it. Feel free to rerequest.
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>>96870773
>>96870811
My guess for why you got autistic with it is that dresses are gorgeous but so are lady legs, especially with a range of motion. Got an elf with a very similar pear build that I've designed with a long dress skirt that is box-pleated. The idea being that while standing upright the folds will cover the leg slits, which as a nomad that needs the ability to hike up a ledge or sprint from danger are very necessary. Elegance meets practicality. Heckin' cute work too.
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>>96865999
>Do you practice the ancient art of 80s b/w DnD illustration?
That’s…
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>>96832574
>>96817817
>>96757090
What I’m trying to do
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>>96869412
Update on the work.
This is not finished yet.
No need to respond (you can if you want to)

the finished version can take anywhere from 2- 7 days so pop by occasionally and check the anchor post. I unfortunately cannot make a better estimate since the time to completion depends on free time i currently have (got to DM this sunday XD among other things)
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Requesting a loli chaos marauder slaying a morbidly obese furfag since evidently we need to start posting those again
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>>96875439
No. Let the loli trend die and stay dead.
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>>96876288
Agreed. It should be adult women in armor doing so instead.
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>>96875115
Nta but looks cool as hell
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>>96726796
that kicks ass anon
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>>96794992
i learned by breaking down the world mechanically
learning how things fit togeather inside helps with understanding why they look that way on the outside
its easier to remember where a bone slims or when a muscle does, when you know why its doing that.
but even now im learning new stuff.
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>>96877143
one of my pencil drawings vs
one of my paintings
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>>96876496
tfw you are creatively dead and can only post retarded pictures when the displaced liver tumor you call a brain spasms about people..
people full stop, because you cant. you cant be anything
you can only regurgitate what the apes in your homoerotic amger circle tell you it is ok to regurgitate
you are the biological equivelent of a fiscal earnings chart and a waste of oxygen.
good day.
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>>96718198
>>96718205
>>96718805
>>96719959
wow that furry really musta fucked you hard to bing out the "im towtully difrent peepul"
fuck off you genetic reject
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>>96723278
that is a suspicious bulge there my friend
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>>96718163
nah
gobs are muppets
elfs are cannibal hippies
... orcs are an anthropamorphozation of war
a bunch of fools who beligerantly shout down everyone around them because they are special and honorable and going to die like insects for the machinations of an evil bastard who isnt all that bright but has literally 0 moral standards or motivvations beyond pride and indulgence.
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>>96877320
use a spellcheck, redditor fatty
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>>96699802
Anchored

>>96869412
Delivered.
+ some (minor)
Additional goodies for your use in your games should you need to ( a bit rough around the edges).

The goodies are png files(catbox links)
I have removed the background so you should be able to stick it on where ever withouth the need to cut it out manually. They arent perfect . A free program with layers (paint. net) should be enough to copy and paste it over something and blend anything that doesnt quite fit or has been left over .

use a filter (or a drawing program) and adjust or modify to taste.

https://files.catbox.moe/u4k70l.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4j2qte.png
https://files.catbox.moe/18ypj7.png

>>96877014
Also thank you for the compliment.

Addendums:
I prefer to do multiple replyes in the hopes that it keeps the board a bit tidyer, I dont know if it actually works.

I havent drawn in about 2 months, this was fun.
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>>96820480
Whatch a youtube tutorial on how to draw from anyone who has actually made something. For me it was mark crilley

Start drawing.

Read fun with a pencil for some bare bones basics.
Apply lessons (draw some more)

Read the ic sticky and grab a fiew fundies you are lacking in.

Draw some more

Do gesture and figure drawing (detailed anatomy knowledge helps but not strictly neccesery)

Look at artists you like.

Try and copy what they do or have somebody else (yutub) analyse what they are doing.

Draw some more

Post works for critique anywhere where thats done.

Draw some more

Try some weird shit out. Draw some more

When stuck

Look at reality /or other works

Draw some more.

Do those in any order You like

It takes little time to get better then most

Takes a long time to get erry good
Still not there myself

If you plan to embark, i wish you good luck
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Shouldn't of landed on this dumb ass barren planet, bros... I think my character is cooked...
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>>96820480
Bro trust me, it doesn't take that long to 'get good' (e.g. get to the point at which some of your works look good to you and you're really happy with them). I've only been drawing for 3 months, went from not being able to draw a circle and knowing nothing about shapes, shading, perspective, etc, to being able to pull off things like this
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>>96881138
I know this might not look impressive to most folks, but to me it's mind blowing. Back in July I couldn't even imagine I'd be able to draw a somewhat convincing scene, albeit with whacky proportions, perspective and shading (I'm still at the very beginning of my journey, and, as they say, it's a lifelong journey)
Age also doesn't matter at all, the only downside of starting later is that you might have less time to dedicate to drawing. I work a full time job, so I'm only able to draw during my lunch break and after work.
I'm 28 so I'm also 'starting out later in life', but it only takes most people around 2-5 years to get to proficient/intermediate (e.g. 'good') level. After that you're just refining your skills. It's literally just like any other skill, like riding a bike, playing football or any video game.

Remember - the best time to begin your drawing journey was when you were 6. The second best time is now. If you don't start drawing today, in a years' time you'll think to yourself 'fuck, why didn't I start drawing last year? Had I been drawing for a year, I'd probably be good by now.'
Hope I gave you some inspiration, anon. We will make it.
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>>96877151

That’s an awesome piece. Interested in doing something else like that?
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>>96877151
Im seconding this question >>96882171
This particular style would be great for showcasing spells I feel like
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>>96699310
requestion my hedge knight dragonborn, a paladin following the oath of vengance on a quest to vanquish invading soldiers from his homelands with religious fervor and searing hate.

I almost always just look for art that fits my idea, but some people out there is allergic to red dragonborns that look like red dragons
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>>96880011
YES! This turned out great. Thank you so much for drawing this. I can't wait for the guys to see this.



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