>evil dark lord king of evil is evil and thus does bad, immoral, reprehensible things>"WAHHH YOU CANT INCLUDE THEMES LIKE THIS IN YOUR GAME DONT YOU KNOW HOW TRIGGERING THAT IS AND HOW BAD IT IS AND HOW EVIL AND WRONG IT IS NOBODY SHOULD EVER SAY THESE THINGS EVER">this same player gleefully boasted about decapitating 16 goblins and leaving the goblin children to starveWhy are modern TTRPG players like this
>>96712150They're not. You're literally inventing things to be mad at.
>>96712156Nah, I've seen this behavior from people. Doesnt necessarily have to be new players but with ttrpgs becoming more popular, youre just naturally going to get larger quantities of people with certain personalities. We also live in the internet age where things are magnified and blown out of proportion. Personally i think theyre just narcissistic dipshits that operate with a black and white mentality with their moral compass always pointing in their direction.
>>96712156That's basically how it works with 40K though. Especially with players getting triggered over armies painted in certain colors.
>>96712156Every modern RPG pretty much has a "don't be meanie-weanie uwu" diatribe at the beginning of the core book. Every modern corporation has pulled some version of the "X is for everyone CHUD" performative fanbase purge. I know gaslighting is an almost instinctual behaviour for your poofters, but we're long past the point when you can get away with it.
>>96712290At least the "don't be meanie-weanie uwu" diatribe makes sense in the context of being civil with your fellow players. In the case of your character sadistically slaughtering goblin children while accosting the evil villain for being... y'know, the EVIL VILLAIN... These people don't belong here.
>>96712150Not a problem for me because I don't play with softass pussies. If you do, the solution to your problem is in this reply.
>>96712150Moral myopia. The basic idea of dissociation from their own actions being awful is surprisingly common in TTRPGs. I've seen people gleefully deliver brutal death onto their enemies, then get out-of-character squeemish when the shoe is on the other foot and an allied NPC is killed.Admittedly, a lot of it does have to do with each player's internal preferences regarding the various atrocities man imposes upon man. But a lot of people cannot stand the idea that bad shit could happen to their own fantasy characters and fantasy characters they like. The consent forms are a fucking meme, but getting a sense of what your players can handle is a good idea before the campaign, as well as adjusting things midway through. (Please note adjustment can either be changing campaign tone, or chucking out especially contentious players.)
>>96712415In a similar vein: I've seen My players commit wanton murder and destruction while leaving behind tons of evidence, then shit bricks when the authorities catch up to them. But I have to give them credit, they don't pretend that what they were doing was righteous, moral, or good when they get caught.
>>96712150>Why are modern TTRPG players like thisBecause this is the most popular villain in the most popular THING ever created by humanity, and he has a tragic/misunderstood backstory. This is the real answer, anything to the contrary in this thread is wrong. I am right. I exist in a perpetual state of being correct.
>player plays a priest and picks a chosen of god subclass, shadow of the demonlord>worships good god>bitches when I give him 1 (one) corruption when all he does is chase money, always panics and tries to run/leave teammates to die on multiple occaissons, and was going to burgle possessions from the house of people he didn't even know were alive or dead and didn't investigate all the wayHe should be lucky I didn't divine wrath his ass.If you pick a class then fucking play the class you pick, don't get pissy because you want all the benefits of religious classes and none of the drawbacks.
>>96712150What game?
>>96712415>>96712512Often comes from those people who understand it's a game and want to have fun pushing the limits, but then forget that part of the DM's role is to make those limits push back so they keep having shit to do in the game.
>>96712588Pretty much anything that you can assume, by default, includes violence.
>>96712150Yeah you punt the goblin children dead. Got to make them good goblins like their parents now.
>>96712150Did not happen to you, nogames. And on the astronomical chance it did I ain't surprised, you sound like a cunt and probably surround yourself with the like. You just wanna start another shit thread about muh modern games and muh objective morals. Faggot.
>>96712290>don't be meanie-weanie uwuYes, if you are playing with other people you are pretty much expected not to be an assholeYou would know that if you were playing them, dohoho
>>96712156You do this "s-shut up it never happens!!" gaslighting every single thread, go away
>>96712415>But a lot of people cannot stand the idea that bad shit could happen to their own fantasy characters and fantasy characters they like.This isn't a modern occurrence, though, there have been stories about players having a melty about losing PCs and waifus and shit predating the Internet.
>>96712975No I was asking what game you were playing where this excact situation took place as you describe. Sorry if it wasn't obvious.
Goblins and orks and demons and necromancers and shit are evil in my games.Just make them evil in your games too.problems weren't.
>>96713102How many times has this happened then?
>>96712150That's pretty antisemitic of you.
>>96712150They aren't. The idpol death cult does not play TTRPGs per se.
>>96712541Honestly, this twat being a quipshitting bore with Freudian excuses makes me want to see him drowned in a vat of boiling urine more, not less, than if he was an unapologetic monster.
>>96712150The "Please don't start yelling NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER as soon as group assembles" disclaimer is mainly for LGS/Con play, where your party is other randos. Bitching about things that don't concern you (you do have friend group to play with, right?) Is incredibly feminine behavior.
>>96713611Now who said anything about the jews?
>>96712150
>>96712224>I've seen this behavior from peoplWhere and when? Should be easy to tell us if it actually happened, right?
>>96712975wrong
>>96712150Goblins, like communists, aren't people
>>96722063trve
>>96712243Do those colors represent things outside of 40k?
>>96712150>this man wants to shove his hidden rape and dismemberment fetishes and cherry picks things that he knows will bother his players in a core level(like losing a nose, if someone at the table is recovering from a broken nose)Idiots will try to justify anything they do. Learn to be social, OP.
>>96712150No-one who decapitates 16 Goblins would leave Goblin children to starve. That would be immoral and not a Good act. You kill the Goblin offspring too. Leaving them alive is just letting more Evil into the world.
>>96713768Yeah, well, people went squeamish.>What's that? you can't write a story with IMPLIED RAPE in it!But the rapist/s are the bad guy/s>You're triggering meeeeeee!Well fuck, I guess Slaanesh demons just tickle people and feed them too much chocolate pudding.And Dark Eldar?Everything stays above the belt, and they have very strict safe-word rules.Very prudish people those Dark Eldar.Frankly, that's just one side of it; I think really vivid depictions of malicious butchery have been reigned in in literature.Gimme some stuff with real teeth, show me some animalism.>Ecbert's axe whirled in a death-arc, and Fridulf's resisting joints were parted by the overhand murderblow; his splintered shield, and severed forearm falling away like litter; the axe-head wedged itself deep in his brainpan, like breaking the head of a cask, his corpse staggered, and fell, wrenching the axe from Ecbert's hand, as Fridulf's kinsmen leapt forwards; their spearheads flickering with vengeful malice, as they cried out that they would defile his corpse and kinswomen. I just wrote that.That's what I like.Gimme the malice; gimme the FULL FAT version.I am a grownup.
>>96712150You get 0 (zero) sympathy from me. You should only play with friends, and its your responsibility to weed out people that dont fit in your group.
>>96730859>I just wrote that.Then you should go write a book. If your players wanted to hear your descriptions of graphic violence they wouldnt complain
>>96730891>They wouldn't complainThey don't?Because I don't game with faggots.
>>96712290Majority of the RPGs with excessive pearl clutching and virtue signalling nonsense tacked on aren't selling and aren't being played by anyone. But that's also not what OP is fabricating. OP is pretending there are situations where players are also pearl-clutchers and enforcing these safety guidelines against the wishes of everyone else at the table, and then engaging in wanton murderhobo behavior.This is a nonsense scenario that does not happen.
>>96730919>people went squeamishWho are the people then?
>>96730978The people I don't or no longer play with, because they are faggots.Is the concept of social shunning alien to you?If you get "Triggered" at my table, you're getting bounced off the doorstep in short order.
>>96730919>>96713768 here and if you DO have a group to play with there's no problem, as I said. You playing with friends who are all on the same page tone-wise and playing in a pickup game with total strangers are very different situations. The disclaimers are for the latter and it's assumed you'll actually talk with your pick up group to establish the tone.
>>96731044>Playing pickup games with total strangersIf you have to do this, you have my deepest commiserations, but also, this should only be a transitional stage before you find your regulars.However, as an enthusiast of all things edgy, oversexed and ultraviolent, who owns his own kitchen table, I have strangely, never had that problem.I play small-scale skirmish games with minimal investment requirements, and little overhead, and have plenty of spare miniatures for the curious.Having to find total strangers to have fun with, because the rules are too bloated for your friends to learn, and the buy-in cost is prohibitive, is a sign that your hobby is disappearing up it's own arsehole.We don't do Warhammer or D&D in this house.We do everything else.
>>96731043So they complained (got "triggered" as you put it), and then you made decision to kick them out. So why are you lying and saying no one complained? Now im think you are just a nogame that can't keep all the details of your lies straight
>>96731099Nobody complained, because they are nobodiesNobody I played withy complained, because I don't play with them any more.>I can't believe that you used to play with people, whom you later found irritating and censorious, so you jettisoned them like the shit they wereIncredulous little faggot, ain't we?
>>96712150>king is evilHow fucking dare you. Get that filth out of here. The king rules by divine grace and his goodness is both inherent and unquestionable.
>>96713061But making fun of god, babies, and sacrificing babies is just good culture Chud. The same people inserting that message enjoy being transgressive.
>>96713768I have never heard the n word in real life except from black people, but I have heard plenty of anti religion remarks, anti family, child hate, anti natalism, even making fun of women who can’t have kids or lost a baby. No one gets cancelled or banned for slurs, they are banned for traditional arguments or data sets that are inconvenient. It’s all a pretend game same as all these violent criminals claim they said the n word. It’s your magic spell word.
>>96732348>Tell me you're middle class without telling meNothing commendable about a limited vocabulary, chap.>Never sang along to NWA or Eazy-E>Never just had an argument with a black dude that turned mutually racial, but also wasn't a big deal>Never just out and called a nigger out for being a nigger on public transport.I guess it really is just proles and animals that are free.
>>96712150>Why are modern TTRPG players like thisName ten instances or kill yourself.
>>96732323>But making fun of god, babies, and sacrificing babies is just good culture Chud.Tell the player doing that at your table he's being an asshole and to keep it out of the game. Simple as that, learn to communicate.
>>96732988The entire 5e group my old schoolmate set up after he came back from Uni.Infested with 'em.We played curse of Strahd; Strahd appeared on a rooftop twirling his cloak dramatically; in character, my terminally uncouth four-foot tall Gnomish barbarian yelled up "Stop playing with your wee cape, you faggot, come down here and fight us!"The whole table froze as if they'd never heard a swear word before.Absolute melts.Got through Strahd and Chult with those sad fucks, and it was a chore the whole way, but I did it for my mate.I tapped out when he let his actual self-declared Marxist roommate run that god-awful book of micro-adventures though.I made a joke about "Elven grooming gangs" and he spent the rest of the session vetoing me whenever I tried to do anything, and ignoring my turns.So I left, since frankly, I have a better standard of company than merely being "tolerated", and it was getting to the point where I was sizing up Bolshy boy for a body bag; I'd already made him cry from telling him Jo Cox died like a bitch.
>>96712150>>"WAHHH YOU CANT INCLUDE THEMES LIKE THIS IN YOUR GAME DONT YOU KNOW HOW TRIGGERING THAT IS AND HOW BAD IT IS AND HOW EVIL AND WRONG IT IS NOBODY SHOULD EVER SAY THESE THINGS EVER"Uhh yeah how is his happening? You're playing with people like this? Maybe stop.
>>96712150Wizards courted them. Look at official wizards campaign worksheets that include areas for potential triggers that prospective players are supposed to fill out for the DM. This has been in process since the early 2010s anon. You should have seen this coming
>>96712243Nobody likes trannies anons, not even trannies
>>96713688He's pretty, so women forgive him his faults and leave snail trails on theater seats. Ever since, the tragic, sad, misunderstood villain has been more and more common.
>>96735236Especially not trannies.It's why the leading cause of death for trannies is suicide; the nearest tranny to them when they finally snap is always themselves.
>>96712156Bro one of my old dms turned into one of these people. I assure you this is shamefully real.
>>96735227"consent forms" were a thing even back in the 90s, granted, most prominent in the WoD community (i.e. the gayest one)
>>96734097I’d bet if someone kirked Farsge you’d cry like a bitch.
>>96712150It's more that modern villains can kill vast numbers of anonymous, faceless people, but God help you if they're misogynists or they use a racial slur.
