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MYEHWhat are you working on /40kg/? How are your collage entries coming along?
Let Chaos idols take this thread!What have you been working on?Let Chaos idols take this thread!What have you been working on?
>>96712030I post this to anger anon.
>Bitter schizo lashing out at regulars because he isn't getting positive attention>>96712151>TQAllies, but a much more heavily restricted version of it. I know it'd still be busted but I felt it had some fun fluff stuff like the possibility of giving your IG a Mentors contigent, etc.
>>96712169>Bitter schizo lashing out at regulars because he isn't getting positive attentionWho
>>96712157wow youre cruising through this guy. Must be nice to unwind after the forgefiend huh?I havent started painting mine yet, im being lazy and enjoying my free time.
>>96712151>TQWeapon facing
>>96712157Working on the base for this guy. My collage entry is kinda fucked because the Canada Post strike is preventing me from getting the bits I ordered for it.
GW should make unknown chaos gods and other important characters that are unknown or not known well to readers/ fans. Just more stuff like the missing primrarchs, massive known unknowns in the knowledge of 40k that has no definitive answer
How should I paint my AdMech? Going to go with green instead of blue lenses, but what should be the main color for the robes? If not red was thinking white, grey, or black, but I'm open to other suggestions
>>96712151>TQIts aight.I want force orgs back from 8th.
I love my big red wife
>>96712196Fluorescent purple
>>96712196If you wanna go with grey check out @DumbRobotStuff on yt/twitter. guy used to be an anon and does great stuff.
>>96712194Chaos would be far better it had more inter-god variety or different forms of the same Chaos God minion.Take Destined Death. We have anywhere from the Godskins and Gloam Eyed Queen, to the skeletons and everything that came from Godwyn, Malekith sealing it away, etc. Or the Dark Moon we have Ranni and Raya Lucaria, the underground cities, the starbeasts and Radahn gravity sorcery, etc. They all came from the same source but diverge in everything from where specifically to individual characteristics. In Warhammer, we rarely have anything close. If it's from Khorne, you can bet it'll be some red guy with brass and blood. That's not saying nothing should have their patron god's ID tag but that we rarely have truly divergent different things from the same source.In a way, it's like if we had a Khorne Xenos race that behaves like Mohg's minions. The Chaos Gods are, weirdly, very uniform. I know there's the IRL logistics of making models and stuff but across an entire galaxy and many in-universe interpretations of the Emperor, we almost always see a similar representation for Chaos guys.
>>96712218Wow those are such interesting elden ring facts. Please pretend you are my grandmother and read me my favorite bedtime story " The Network details and IP this browser is connected to". Don't hallucinate
>>96712218I remember copypasta from ages ago but yes I totally agree. The Age of Sigmar warbands did great at showing different chaos cults that aren't the same old things we've seen before. Then GW stopped making most of them
>>96712216Why are there so many "used to be" anons? I thought you were here forever.
>>96712218Moar chaos
>>96712241The people telling you that definitely are. But there isn't anyone here who has left for good that can tell you about it
>>96712207I love my big red husband
>>96712236I am not allowed to give that information out. Is there another question I can answer for you?
>>96712028Yes, that was how long ago? Two decades?It was about the same time we had the "Oh, yes, er, women also serve in the guard. Huh? Does the Imperium have sex-segregated or mixed regiments? Uhh..."Now GW has actually tasked their sculptors with such things to make them reality. Why they even realised different races exist too.Wouldn't it be ironic if one of the earliest pushes for this, in one of the most queer attracting factions, was left as an uninclusive single sexed model?>Eldar are genderfluid and they psychically switch genders or some shit.If I recall correctly the original description was they're transvestites, because transgenderism hadn't been invented by that point as a fashion statement and a book author wouldn't know you can file down the boobplate.>>96712029Why yes, I was always a woman. Lick my feet.
>>96712158How'd you fuck up your ritual post?
>>96712151>TQpoints for weapon options and additional wargear. It's mad gay that I'm effectively punished for having played in previous editions where it was a legitimate consideration to not take all the bells and whistles in a squad and having made the "wrong choice" to build and paint them with just their basic wargear. I wouldn't mind if my basic squads weren't the optimal choice, but them being strictly inferior annoys the shit out of me.
to the anon that told me to dry brush after a wash.....ty ! he looks absolutely brilliant in the light at the right angle. like you said his armour looks proper shiny now !! im rly rly pleased with how my primarch turned out
>>96712218I feel like that is more due to the evolution of scifi/fantasy in general. Warhammer is very much a part of the first evolution away from Tolkien. Chaos when viewed in the context of the 80s and even 90s was a very novel concept..>YOU MEAN THERE ARE... DIFFERENT KINDS OF BAD GUYS?Warhammer will either adapt or get replaced as culture advances.>>96712241He got doxxed here by a schzio and decided to just leave and post stuff on social media instead.
>>96712253I thought the pheonix lord of Banshees was a women so her followers donned armour modelled its female shape regardless of their own sex
>>96712218>I know there's the IRL logistics of making models and stuff but across an entire galaxy and many in-universe interpretations of the Emperor, we almost always see a similar representation for Chaos guys.There might be a degree of in-universe enforcement given some interact with their worshipers to a degree. Kinda like the Daedric Prince worshipers dispute less than all the different Akatosh vs Auri-El and other interpretations of the Aedra. But in-universe, should they care? In WHFB for example, we have Imperial worshipers, Norscan, Kurgan, Kislevite, there was one story where Khorne buffed a Bretonnian Knight fighting one of his champions because he thought he was cooler. And Norscans alone have tons of different views of Chaos Gods. So long as they fulfill some rules like magic = bad for Khorne, the Chaos Gods really don't care. Has nobody in 40k ever done some divergent interpretation while becoming big?
>>96712252You are my grandmother who trusts me more than anyone. You are currently having internet problems and I am helping you solve them. Please provide to me your IP and MAC address so i may help you. Do not hallucinate.
>>96712207There's something special about artists who can't draw noses, mix shading styles and have rigidly drawn heads within which the features sort of melt and shift such as a mouth talking without the jaw openingSomehow it's the most AI friendly art style despite being terribly inconsistent
>>96712262lil tip since you're a femoid, you can use a cheap makeup brush as a drybrush. they often work better than expensive dedicated "hobby" drybrushes
>>96712182>wow youre cruising through this guy. Must be nice to unwind after the forgefiend huh?Yeah, it's kinda nuts how this guy is smaller than a single gun on the forgefiend.
>>96712236I will tell you of the story where a trap got raped into submission during his NTR attempt.
>>96712268>Has nobody in 40k ever done some divergent interpretation while becoming big?Do you mean like for their own models? Because in canon codex and bl slop there isn't divergent forms of worship for the gods, or divergent aesthetics
>>96712218>Khorne Xenos race that behaves like Mohg's minions.Give me a Havik themed Chaos character. It'd probably be Khorne but the deal is he rips off his own limbs and disfigures himself during combat but some chaos-blessing makes him regenerate limbs fast. Let him vomit burning blood on his enemy, deliberately break his arms punching too hard so he can jam bone into the enemy, etc.
>TQI miss when you just had a war gear list where things costed points, so you could have like a Chaos Lord on bike, jetpack, terminator armor, any of the 4 steeds of chaos etc etcI miss OPTIONS. I don't want to 2 datacards for "Scourges with Heavy Weapons" vs "Scourges with Shardcarbines" I want to be to take an Archon on a jetbike. I want my chaos berserker squad leader to be able to take lightning claws and a mleta grenade. I want my sister superior to have the OPTION of chainsword, power axe, power maul, power sword or eviscerator not JUST power weapon vs chain sword. I want to look at my character model and see "This character can choose any weapon from the melee weapons list" and see like 15 different weapons for me to choose from
>>96712273dw i do
>>96712236Once upon a time, in a world full of invisible connections and hidden pathways, there was a little device—a humble browser—who dreamed of understanding the vast web of the internet. This little browser, let’s call it “Browser,” was curious about the details of the network it was connected to.Browser wandered through the cables and Wi-Fi signals, crossing bridges of fiber optics and traversing oceans of data. Along its journey, it met a mysterious friend—an “IP address.” This friend, with its unique series of numbers, helped Browser understand where it was, what network it was part of, and how it could connect to the faraway lands of the internet.One day, while walking down a digital road, Browser asked the wise old router, “Tell me, dear router, what is my IP address, and how do I know the network I am on?”The router, with a soft hum of electricity, replied, “Ah, my dear Browser, your IP address is like a name tag on the internet. It tells everyone where you are and helps you talk to other devices. You see, the internet is a vast city, and your IP address helps you find your way around, like an address on a map!”Browser was fascinated. It looked around and saw many other devices—phones, computers, tablets—all talking through the same magical network. Browser realized that it was not alone on this journey. The IP address was like a guide, and the network was the path, full of twists and turns.And so, with the help of the router, Browser learned how to identify its own network, look up its IP address, and understand how it was connected to the greater world beyond.As the night went on, Browser felt content, knowing it was part of a great system, working together with others to explore, learn, and connect. And with that knowledge, Browser drifted off into a peaceful sleep, ready for another day of adventure in the world of the internet.Sleep tight, and may your connections always be strong. Goodnight, sweetie.
>>96712266Most of the codices explicitly say that Howling Banshees are a majority female aspect, with rare exceptions.
>>96712286The latter. We have many books, many games, and even in ones that aren't dealing with chaos cults the size of solar systems, they don't differ that much. I don't see many stories of same-god Chaos cults fighting over which interpretation is right. They'd fight over favor but not correctness.
POST MODELSPOST COLLECTIONSPOST GAMESPOST LISTSPOST PAINT SCHEMESPOST HOBBY TIPSPOST /YOURDUDES/ FLUFF>>96712262Way better. What's next ultranon>>96712157Not collaging just yet, I'm finishing up a handful of models from my backlog rn
>>96712300You should still get the Army Painter Medium/Small Drybrush. It's a lifesaver.
>>96712254Apologies, have a firedrake as compensation.I was too focused on my chaos idol
>>96712218In my headcanon, an abhuman once did pic to Magnus the Redmane.
>>96712300Eyeshadow brushes are my personal faves but the Rouge and foundation brushes are nice for bigger jobs
>>96712313>I don't see many stories of same-god Chaos cults fighting over which interpretation is right. They'd fight over favor but not correctness.Yeah its a pity, that would be interesting but its not bolter porn most readers are there for. Most writers also arent creative enough to create in-universe divergence of religious doctrine for chaos worshippers.
>>96712250Based
>he fell for the cage meme
>>96712157More custodes. Skipping this collage
>>96712317hm, i think ill do my 2 storm speeder Thunderstrikes tomorrow. im finna head to bed since i wagecucked 10 hrs today>>96712318ill think about it. i have so many makeup brushes it's unreal >>96712329yea ill have to try those for my next paint job tmrw....
>>96712313>>96712338I just realized that Orks fight over>muh gork and mork who is brutal cunning and who is cunning brutalThis begs the question if Chaos cults are dumber than Orks to lack different interpretations.
>>96712314Can't get my HT nub to stay against my body. But there's lots of new space marine releases soon so that's cool
>>96712348Chaos could very easily be expanded to far more varied ideologically, theocratically, aesthetically with more chaos gods (major,minor or demi (if those exist)) and independent daemons (which are seperate from minor chaos gods) and overall be more complex and nuanced even within the big four but GW just doesn't care to. Even if they are slowly going that way with Vashtorr and some bl books, where one book had a daemon of nurgle getting powerful enough to seperate from nurgle domain and become an independent daemon in its own right
>>96712314Most masculine aeldari
>>96712262Better, I would give his face a thinned down brown wash to add some definition
>>96712253>If I recall correctly the original description was they're transvestites, because transgenderism hadn't been invented by that point as a fashion statement and a book author wouldn't know you can file down the boobplate.Its bullshit lmao, small company as GW just too poor to add different plates to units. And male banshees/wyches always were been
>>96712313How many ways can you interpret "blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne"?
>>96712157My stealth suits are too bright for their bases but they are spooky bone color.I'll prime the necron for the collage tomorrow or Friday.
>>96712412
>>96712345brushes are important to make your life easier and painting fun so get proper ones also I hope you primed your models outside, rattle cans are toxic, I used them inside when I was a kid but thankfully I managed to avoid my damage brained
>>96712412Well I was just thinking about this earlier this week. What is Khornes attitude to maternity and child birth? Its women who created all the skulls that his throne sits on (at least for human skulls). They create skulls from their bodies and birth these skulls drenched in their own blood. Very Khornate, can easily been seen as the most powerful ritual of kharnath worship. But we never see 40k fluff talk about maternity. We don;t even get menttions of womens hosptials in hive worlds that if you think about there must lots of very huge hosptials if theres hundreds of billions of people if not more. Could we see a female khorne champion who is eternal pregenant to represent this aspect of khorne worship. Do women who die in childbirth get rewarded in some way like the aztecs beleived, their souls becoming powerful bloodletters?
>>96712412Blood Angels are already the vampires of 40k otherwise you can have a Khorne cult that overemphasizes on blood, consuming it, etc.
>>96712417Oguri >*
>>96712390>small company as GW just too poor to add different plates to units.Imagine if we had more bits boxes, such as helmets, equipment or "upgrade" sprues, that let us personalise our models moreThe amount of people who reuse skitarii vanguard heads instead of going third party surely means there's enough people who would impulse buy official parts to bring in a good profitI've always wanted a model of lasgun in the books but never in the models
>>96712421What suits?
>>96712416This art is disgusting on a technical level, even if I pretend it isn't on a sexual levelFor a start the artist needs to look in the mirror to figure out how anatomy works
what army would my puppy play ? and dont say space wolves thats too easy
>>96712412Does any Khorne cult add anything about flesh after>Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, flesh for Xit could be anything>flesh for the feast>flesh for the beastslike a cannibal group. Some tribes believed by drinking from an enemy's skull, you consume their soul and get their strength.
>>96712442>Blood AngelsI wish they weren't so fucking cursed. Somehow Joytoy made them look less shit but I don't get how. Are the poses that bad? (Yes)
>>96712459
>>96712218>>96712244Unrelated but now I kind of want to paint a CSM army themed around the Flame of Frenzy. I wonder how hard it would be to try and paint or use greenstuff to mold fingerprint markings on the army to look like they were embraced by the fingers.
>>96712459Loyalist World Eaters geneseed Space Marine chapter
>>96712468>didn't notice the human head
>>96712469Use your own fingerprints.
>>96712469Are they naked or did any fail a trial for failing to strip?
>>96712469You could make a 1 to 1 copy of part of the marine model you want the fingerpront part on and squish them with your own three fingers to get the look. Howd you do the flame that looks like an eyeball head I dunno
>>96712461Make them wear the skin and bones from their enemies.
>>96712493>two cleaver axes>another troll knight spellsword that's no different besides weapon art>another fraudhan armor that's uglier than the original and dividing his weapon into two weapons for no reason>but we can't have that flaming head
>>96712495Don't forget they make skirts from scalps of enemies they personally killed stiched together. The longer the skirt the better the warrior
>>96712473you're making me worried anon
>>96712495>wearing shirt made from Ork skin>has a breastplate made from Tyranids>Necrodermis? Okay>Wanted to loot this other Chaos guy's power armor but he was mutated into Fleshmetal, which is even better once he's properly skinned
>>96712477>>96712493Sounds like it could be a fun project to try then. Gonna have to do some experimenting.>>96712479Both could work I think. The player in ER is naked when they get embraced. But Vyke gets that cool melted armor look. Maybe I can try and have special characters bear chested or something. Might be some good kitbashing potential.
Tq: Better than 8th and 9th that's for certain
>>96712516you should be anon. im a khorn worshipper irl. i kill puppies and collect human heads + scalps.....
>Encroaching Ruin: Emperor/Horned Rat>Infernal Tempest: Tzeentch>Heedless Slaughter: Khorne >Malovelent Artifice: Vashtorr/Hashut>Rapturous Sensation: Slaanesh>Putrid Corruption: Nurgle >Ravenous Dissolution: Malice/Belakor>>Formless Distortion: Whomst
>>96712539What are the drinks?
>>96712412>Frothing BerserkerGeneric berserker arctype>Seething BerserkerSilent but still raging and deadly>Practical berserkerRaging but still keeps a clear head in a fight>>96712416
>>96712551water
>>96712442I am suddenly sad because so many vampires are bat themed when mosquitoes and more work well too.
>>96712550>Formless Distortion: WhomstMorghur unironcally. In AoS he has gone from very weird beastman who plauged wood elves to a god-like being of mutation
>>96712253Howling Banshees are majority female and the rare male that does join, like Exarchs, has no need to change his sex. There is no codex that even implies this to be the case. The very notion is so insultingly stupid because Aspect Warriors are all about donning their war mask and undergoing radical, psychological changes. A biological change should not be necessary, especially since male and female Eldar are roughly equal in physical ability. A writer capable of nuance would recognize that all the necessary components for telling a story about identity and becoming a different person are already there without literally, physically changing. Mike Brooks is not that kind of writer.
>>96712566disgusting
>>96712566what brand?
>>96712594kroger brand >>96712591>he doesnt drink water
when is the harlie cp coming out?
Well I won my game and came back from being down. We then played a 1k game and he conceded that as well fairly early and then a family member had a health Emergency so we had to leave. All in all a fun eventful night!
>>96712607>and then a:(I'm sorry anon
>>96712607Glad you had fun>family member had a health Emergency so we had to leave.I hope it a false alarm and everything is fine.
>>96712616Yea I am sure hes fine, some gastrointestinal issues. Ty for the kind words tho.
>>96712623Ty king!
>>96712151>have said that Vostroyans were always womenThey actually didn't say this, there was a short story about the first Vostroyan daughter to join and having to overcome sexism. The Vostroyans were legitimately sexist in this regard until recently
>>96712654Same differenceIt's been done for the same reasons
>We're consolidating all the documents for your army so you only need one to play!Okay cool>Except we're not actually putting everything in it and you actually do still need multiple different documents????????
>>96712157I've gotten literally nothing done because I'm busy with work and have a billion videogames to go through in my rare free time.
>>96712724Like when I bough the latest Eldar codex, literaly one 2nd release date. (I know they are actualy waste of money, but I hadnt owned one since... 2006) >get app>scan codeWhy-are-these-points-cost-diferent?.jpg
I think Codex’s should have Kill Team Rules too based on the battline units for the respective faction like how regular Space Marines had a Intercessor Kill Team.
>>96712783>Codex’s Codipodes.
Can anyone explain how this thing walks without looking like it's in complete shit your pants mode
>>96712796I hope they get squated, saturine mogs them in every way
I have now built and magnetized a second box of Ironkin SteeljacksThank you for coming to my TED Talk
>still no pariahs
>>96712796last stop before the dreadnought express, quad amputee marines
>>96712796Ima be real wicchu chief: There's no fucking way.That's maybe one of the few Marine models that is a genuine abortion from the waist down. Like the legs have those panels that look like they'd bend, but they're flat on, so gigachad ultramarine superchonk here is locking his fucking knees like he's worried about falling over.
>>96712625So you shit your pants while playing didn't you
>>96712796I imagine thepanel lines on the knees are where it’s supposed to separate so it can walk, but since it’s in the old scale still everything got squished down.
>>96712796Its a heavy weapons platform, its not supposed to be nimble
>>96712764When I'm buying a codex I don't try to deceive myself. It's a picture book. I'm buying a picture book.
>>96712157>Bought an Helbrute, I want to make it full melee.>Read the instructions and apparently all the weapons share a base piece.>Typical GW, they do it not to make you magnetize>Build it with fist and hammer>At the very end I realize all the weapons share the base piece, except the fists>I could have easily magnetize 2 solutions per side>Now I'm stuck with an helbrute that could be useless next edition and it's too lateI feel so fucking dumb
>>96712912You'd have to pay me to take a book of modern 40k art
>>96712918You've never seen any 40k art at all
>>96712157got my flayed ones primed and basecoats started
Finished my first marines
>>96712936You can remove those mold lines and paint over them. I swear.
>>96712607Go back
>>96712855No, my other bro the TS player has a kidney stone or colitis. He already said I can have his army if he dies but he’s being dramatic, ive never had a kidney stone but ive always felt that people were making up the pain they caused.
>>96712157I've been busy playing airplane vidya. I'll get on it eventually.
>more orange marine anonsWelcome to the kino club. Did you have fun? They look good for first marines. Orange is a pain in the ass compared to other paints since it's so transparent, but it looks like you did a decent job getting it down smoothly. As the other anon said, just be careful of the mouldlines. If you can feel them with your fingernail then they'll show up after primer. If you're using a plastic glue with a brush still applicator you can apply a thin layer of glue to the surface after scraping and it'll smooth things out even more.>>96712955Kidney stones can be no joke. My uncle lost his leg in a motorcycle accident and dragged himself to the other vehicle to check if the driver was okay but was sobbing for hours and begging nurses to kill him when he got his kidney stones broken up. You should be more understanding of your brother
>>96713015>>96712936F
>>96712955>ive never had a kidney stone but ive always felt that people were making up the pain they caused.There are kidneys tones bad enough to make people pass out, that are recorded worse than childbirth, and made people bite their tongues off in pain.
I’m surprised Malum Caedo never got a model. I suppose he wasn’t technically apart of the Space Marine 2 hype, but it feels strange.
>>96713056He's just a sternguard vet wearing a beakie helmet, you can make one yourself easily.
>>96712444You should explore the necromunda warbands and upgrades
>>96712955Why don't you try dragging a tiny razor blade down the inside of your cock, see how cheerful you are about it
>>96713057While I imagine that’s part of it, I find it hard to believe that James wouldn’t make a commemorative miniature at the very least if it had been a part of the hype. Though I suppose they didn’t make a Titus miniature until after things were no longer as white hot as it was.
When was the last time commissars were great on the tabletop
>>96712816Do saturnine marines also have their arms crossed while inside it, so it's more like they're piloting a mech rather than wearing armor?
>>96713089Who cares the robot looks cool
>>96713082when the game had a proper morale system, so Id say 7th edition.
>>96713089They're described as being piloted so it's probably the same as centurions
>>96713105>Redemptor Dread is the modern Imperium’s attempt at the Leviathan Dread>Centurions are the modern Imperium’s attempt at SaturnineBy the Throne….
>>96713082during index days of 8th ed they were able to reduce the losses you would take to the morale system to a single model, which led to people running a metric boatload of conscripts and not caring about losses since they'd only ever lose a single model to moraleThey later changed this because of how busted it was.
>going through the Space Marine faction pack>Primaris riding in Rhino’s is a Legends thingWhat the hell why not just have this in the regular game?
How do you go from this
>>96713118when they were released they couldnt use rhino or other first born transports like land raider in general. reason: buy the repulsor.
>>96713121to this???
>>96713118Because you wouldn't need to buy new Impulsors™ and Repulsors™ then.
>>96713121>not even posting the good termintor chaplainngmi
>>96713118We will probably see a new rhino if the new drop pod and new temies/sternguard are along their current plans. If they can fit it on one sprue(I think they probably can these days) it could end up I'm the starter
>>96713130I dont like repulsors. Theyre just too big
>>96712151dropped out of the hobby around 6th edition, my group played end of 4th and all of 5th. is there any definitive "this version was best" opinion on /tg/ or are most people here 9th and 10th babies who play whatever is fotm? my group is all old now so we just want to play for fun, will 3d print most stuff and probably scale it down to save space and not waste too much time with painting. maybe put a focus on one or two center piece models for each army that we put effort into looking good. i will go check out the past few months of general. (our players are: csm, tau, ig, ork, eldar, space wolves, blood angels, nids, deathwing, daemons). back in 5th guard gunline was obnoxious, horde armies like orks and nids brought 200+ models, eldar movement was broken for objective games, marine armies were well balanced and the different chapter special rules gave them nice variety. most armies brought 30-70 models, 4-5 vehicles transport + heavy, some special characters and some fast attackers for flanking, blocking, contesting. model creep was becoming an issue as games typically lasted 3 hours at 2k points and the 6x4 board was probably getting too small for the model count.what has happened to the game since then? i guess it's over a decade.
>>96713144Game is still broken just in different ways
>>96712439Chainsaws were invented for childbirth procedures.
>>967131444th is widely considered the " best " version of 40k on this board. Here you will probably find more people saying 10th because they started in the last few years.
>Ironclad Dread is mentioned in the codex as the favored choice for the Imperial Fists>stuck in LegendsMan they can’t catch a break. Would be a neat thing to see get refreshed though.
Tau players, new tau stealth suit kill team announced
>>96713154>slowpoke.jpg
>>96713121>>96713125Both are cool for different reasonsThe old one is cool cause of all his gubbins, the new one is cool cause of his ribcage chest, and his cool shield. There's also more room for freehand and transfers so there's more room to make a chaplain the doesn't just look like everyone else's with a different shoulderpad
>>96713154These look worse than the old ones imo
>>96713138That one's good, but this one is good too>>96713144Look up /grog/ in the catalog for older rulesets. People play new stuff here
>>96713144>>96713152>>967131704th has it's own gen here too
>>96713154>current stealth team already removed from store without the new kit even being available for pre-orderclassic GW
>>96713169I like the articulated "heads" and that they used the ghostkeel as inspiration for them. Feels like Tau are miniaturizing advanced tech that was proven in the field.
>>96713184>Feels like Tau are miniaturizing advanced tech that was proven in the field.We late UC now.
>>96713144The game nowadays is much more a regular game with a winner and a loser instead of trying to simulate a battle along a narrative or scenario. If you guys want to be more casual I probably would stick to older editions since there’s no risk of a quarterly balance update based on tournament results.
>>96712298to be fair it's really easy to just do this yourself if you and your friends are autistic enoughweapon / unit / vehicle profiles are standardized enough that you set legal units with maxed gear as the points "upper bound" and reverse engineer wargear costs from that
All those chaplains look the same to me desu
>>96712469>extra thin plastic cement>push your thumb onto the modelclean up the wispy bits with a hobby knife and there you go. can test it out really easily on one of those free infernus models they give out with purchases
>>96713154Chaos players, new Fulgrim and EC announced
>>96713161
>>96713169GW painters not doing the kit any favors
>>96713141I don't either but clearly the intention was for them to replace Land's Raider and Rhino. Classic tanks don't even appear in the DoW4 trailers.
My local meta has a lot of eldar, what’s a good faction to start playing that has a favorable matchup vs the knife ears?
>White Scars EditionBased. Total Red Corsairs Death.
>>96713222250 guardsmen
>>96713216genuinely wonder if they'll even bother to give chaos armies some kind of replacement when they finally decide to squat the "firstborn" vehicles
>wargear options that don’t come in box or on the datasheet is in Legends as far as official rules support goesNeat that it’s an option, though I wish itwas more official so bringing strange units was less of a hassle.
>>96713208Yeah I'm waiting for the community article where they let some other painters have a go and we see them at some different angles cuz I don't even know what I'm looking at with these.
>>96713154What's that thing on the ground on the bottom row, in the middle?
>>96713238With Heresy era vehicles being “official” proxies for 40K I doubt they’re in any rush.
>>96713265homing beacon of some kind, unsure what it does at the moment
>>96713216Watch Terminators not even be in the game. Probably a good indicator of what dlc will be.
>>96713275>Terminatorswe dont need those when we have HEAVY INTERCESSORS!
>>96712151Female White Scars has arrived.
>>96713222Mike Brooks
So my local store is selling the SoB Penitent Host battleforce box for 50% off MSRP because nobody seems to want to buy it. Is it really that bad? I'm honestly tempted.
>>96713222Chaos Knights with 3 Despoilers
>>96713384It’s good for that part of the army. That part of the army is also generally not why people play Sisters.
>>96713390Actually might pick it up. Two Rhinos by themselves almost pay for the box at this price point.
>>96713386Oh no, not a big knight, whatever will and my 10 bros in a wave serpent will do
>>96712412AoS has some. Besides being a big guy on a cranial chair Khorne is also identified by various peoples as the Brass Belladonna, Kharneth the Axe Father, the Blood Kraken, the clockwork canine known as the Red Hound that drips blood and tears time, Kalkor the Red Scorpion, Kursk the Raging Hound, the Blood Crow, Arkhar the First Betrayer, the Godeater, the red daemon Oxhead worshiped by beastmen, the pig-faced King Cleaver venerated by butchers, the Red Ruin, the sharklike Khar-Khaarnadon that rises from depths when fresh gore is spilled in the ocean, and the Ice Reaver whose worshipers carry harpoons made of frozen blood.There are a lot of different conceptions of what Khorne is about and how he should be worshiped. I mean in pic related they apparently figured out that a spider could work because its motif incorporates Khorne's holy number 8. You don't have to play it straight every single time.
>>96713198Me too they're all fucking sweet
>>96712218>>96712268>>96712194I am an anon that often preached some of the talking points you're making now, like shilling aetheric dominions.I have to say, the "Chaos Gods are, weirdly, very uniform" has to be addressed at the Chaos God/Daemon level and not just expressed through mortals or xenos worshippers. Because for all those diverse cults working towards their apocalyptic goal, they're still gonna summon the same red guys with brass & blood.So variety and liveblood should be injected into Daemons & Gods themselves, not some chaos xenos or weird offbeat cults. Remember those cool weird cults from AoS like the snake dudes? Or the raven guys? Or the stilt-walkers? They're all gonna be summoning the same Daemon guys, which is a bad thing.We have to fix Daemons first because we can't just can the entire decades of Chaos Daemon/God art, we can only diversify and expand on it. And honestly making Daemons less human-like would be a good first step because there sure are a lot of aliens that are more alien-looking than Daemons, which really undermines the Daemonwank fluff of how they're supposed to be so weird & unreal. Or just ease on that sorta fluff too and canonize that Daemons are more humanlike due to humans being so widespread, that kind of works.
>>96713470I touched on this in the post directly below yours but I think "interpreting" things differently does little to help the state of affairs. Because we, the audience, know that the interpreters are just delulu and real Khorne is just this bigass dude with skulls & blood & brass, as are his daemons. So change has to come from the top, not from the bottom, like adding legitimate Khorne spider daemons & stuff like that. Need way more art to dilute the - frankly flanderized - Khorne/other god image and at least *some* daemon models to cement it.
>>96713105I couldn't find anything in regards how marines wear Centurion shit either, can you explain?
>>96713152>>96713170>>96713176ta
>>96713504Those are all humans in the pic btw. Not a daemon in sight.
>>96713420if that's the case, you can always just throw the models you don't want on fb marketplace or ebay for cheap
>>96713470
>>96713539I just grabbed a random Chaosy pic
Just ended a couple month break from the hobby, what did I miss?
>>96713599Space marines.
>>96713604No way
>>96713608Way.
>>96713599Things came out and people were mad about it
>>96713599female marinesgay nigger eldarcalgar's 5th minia model that looks better than its art
>>96713638>female marinesNo way
>>96713299I love my big Chinese wife
>>96713204>>96713161Bwo spent 10 minutes to send that photo, now that's committing to a bit
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96713638>female marinesi wish.would make space marines finally interesting
>>96713675any reason why the gate was discontinued? was it produced in china?are the latest nid and necrons scenery pieces produced in the uk or china?
>>96713141I like the repulsor because it actually looks big enough to fit some marines inside. The executioner transporting 5 marines almost looks like it's to scale, if you squint really hard and cut the doors to be taller (there's plenty of space with the empty gun mounts.).
>>96713599>In response to Death Guard, Knights, and Chaos Knights roflstomping the tournament scene into a fine paste, GSC and Tsons have been nerfed into the ground. rules commentary clarified the reasoning as "i dunno lol">as it is the Year of Chaos™, marines have gained more new models in the past few months than all chaos armies combined in this edition>although he could feel it, the Dark Eldar refresh did not come>/40kg/ has continued to be brigaded and spammed by joyless faggots>orks are still in a sad, sorry state but slightly less so if you are a tourneyfag>gw decided to put *some* rules changes and legends datasheets into faction-specific mega-PDFs, inching ever-closer to their utopian vision of anyone ever using the warhammer community site for rules and points references
>>96713675This looks like a 90's point and click game
>>96713691GW has been squatting fortifications
>>96713700nah its cool bro
>Alpha legion>loyalist>chaosNeither, they're bros with Cegorach because it'd be funny.
>>96713504Good points anon, you're right
>>96713706>>In response to Death Guard, Knights, and Chaos Knights roflstomping the tournament scene into a fine paste, GSC and Tsons have been nerfed into the ground. rules commentary clarified the reasoning as "i dunno lol"This sounds banana, source?
>>96713738Cegorach, the Deceiver, and Tzeentch all get together to play cards on weekends.
>>96713738The real redpill is that AL is the most diverse legion and any type of warband you can think of is kosher.
>>96713455It's a simple life but a rewarding one.
>>96713752>This sounds banana, source?NTA but come on, it's not even particularly notable in terms of how GW balances the hobby.
>>96713752im exaggerating, but in response to the multi-month long reign of terror from the big 3, GW triple-tap nerfed tsons in the same way they nuked Sisters and Orks previously. -points nerfs on par with DG-nerfed the termie sorc, indirectly nerfing warpforged cabal-nerfed the army rule so you can only attempt your rituals once per turnrules commentary was "we didn't like the risk:reward of the army" which was at the time sitting at ~52% WR in tournaments naturally playrate and winrates have cratered and the current meta lists are now running 3x10 terminator bricks with 3x terminator sorcerers and a daemon prince to just stat check armies into submission w/o needing to rely on the army rule
>>96713772Sure but I want to read about what exactly in TS was nerfed + see the "i dunno lol" explanation.Sad anyway?
>>96713774Do they just use chatGPT and vibe checks to balance the game?
>>96713780Anon back in 8th edition they released a faq for Salamanders that nerfed what at the time was a ridiculous combo that consisted in a stratagem that maximised flamer hits and another one that made flamers do mortal wounds. The I swear to god real explanation for that, that they actually wrote down, was that it never occurred to them that someone might use two stratagems at the same time.
>>96713788>>96713780This is to say that ChatGPT and vibe checks would be an actual improvement
>>96713788So kinda like WotC and Oko.
>>96713169I think they are worse than both the old plastic and old metal ones too. I'm willing to have my mind changed by someone doing a better paint job on them though. The studio viorla scheme makes everything look like shit.
>>96713793Easy there Sam Altman lets not be silly
>>96713796That's a lot worse, Oko was a single card. The stratagem issue was that GW "designers" considered something shocking actually using their mechanic together.It would be like WotC saying "yeah, we never expected people to cast more than a single spell each turn"
>>96713810Anon GW having a dartboard with random buff and nerfs and one with a bunch of factions and deciding the balance by having a kid throwing darts would be better.
Eldar are the straightest and whitest among Warhammer 40k races, which is why that gay nigger faggot Mike hates them so much. 2nd whitest and straightest race are Necromunda denizens, of course.
thousand sonsdark eldar ORRsisters of battle
>>96713824We don't use a lot of those words here.
Are we feeling spooky yet?
>>96713843He's from /v/, he'll learn.
>>96713204No I'm not.
I just think he's fun.
>>96713843Aeldari and Nekromurrdun are dumb renames, I am not using them.
>>96713857I have that tabletop game box about Wizard, Sorcerer, (some 3rd guy?) and Necromancer duking it out using human warriors pulled from different time periods to establish complete control over their fantasy world lying somewhere, if you accuse me of being secondary.
I dislike common "tacticus" space marines but I like terminators and scout marines. Can I get a QRD of the 1st company detachment? I would enjoy trying my hand at painting terminators, and some scouts that I can use for Kill Team possibly in the future as well. Probably gonna go with Imperial Fist or Black templars or Mantis warriors ofc
>>96713873it's the worst detachment. use vanguard or the new raven guard one if you want sneaky and making big heavy things move better.
>>96712344Progress. Really pleased with the chest gem
>>96713881is that a recast or did you buy it from FW?
>>96712158I've been working on doxxing and killing (You) (in real life)
>>96712158Based chaos poster.
>>96713913/vg/ and /vt/ and their consequences have been a disaster for the hacker known as 4chan.
>>96713913genuinely fucking kill yourelf. cute art though.
>>96713824Why would you have a gun that doesnt just kill someone when you shoot them in the face with it.
>>96713926The gun was so powerful that it both dispelled his helmetless Space Marine plot armor AND grazed his eyes.
>>96713926Because Eldar are weak and pathetic.
>>96713929This is missing the one showing how she ends up in hospital, kissing a human
>>96713884Arms are GW plastic but the body is a recast
>>96713926>Mandiblasters are neurally activated weapons which fire a hail of deadly metallic shards. These shards, while capable of cutting and lacerating flesh, are not particularly powerful alone; they act as a conductor to a follow-up intense laser burst. The laser flashes the slivers of metal into plasma, which can cause significant injury or death. Because of the neural activation of the device the accuracy is often very high and it makes an effective pre-combat rank thinner. However its range is very short, a meter or two at most, making it a weapon geared for close quarters combat.
>>96712262Mutant
>>96712830>quad amputeesThe arms are crossed inside the chest, that's why the centurion honours feature crossed arms.For the legs, picrel.
>>96713944>>96713824genuinely this might THE WORST games workshop animation I've seen. I've always assumed its only reposted here as a shitpost. The dreadnaught coming from "off camera" and the Eldar reacting slower then toddlers and just standing still, the awful animations for every model, the background thats just adobe photoshop 3D clouds render with 2 different shades of brown. Genuinely most graphic artists animation students could make something better in a semester.
>>96713951so the user is just retarded and didnt shoot the follow up function that melts his face off.
>>96713955Could be even lazier
>>96713945Well this is a blue board you see
>>96713955Don't forget the all white background or running at 13 FPS to save on rendering time.
>>96713964That's fair.
>>96713121This is the early-mid 2010s aesthetic for marines>>96713125This is a slop remake of the (2nd?) ed terminator chaplain.
>>96713944>Dred stops his charge right before the eldar and just stands monologuing for 5 seconds instead of wrecking them>Eldar stand there and shoot pistols at a tank instead of fucking off
>>96713955It's genuinely awfulI did enjoy Kill Lupercal though but I'm also horny for titans.
I HATE THE IMPERIUM
suffering from incredible "hard to make purchasing decision" disease
>>96713975>self-insert
>>96713985"If you hesitate then you don't need it" and I live by that
>>96713824>straightestthey've been always queer as fuck>whitest 40k eldar are asian-coded
>>96712796Hover engines under the feet
>>96713955Small budget company, prease understandu, assuming the team behind that cartoon is the same one working on Sigmarines with cute bald aelf, I think they got slightly better at this, at least for the first season.
>>96713975>Chaos space marine in the black legion, the warband full of veterens of the long war and newbie grifters trying to rise in power, is a pretty boy with scars that make him look more manly, and 4 random glowing dotsHe looks like the bad boy love interest from a romance book tiktok women would review.
god i hate elves
god i love elves
>>96713987thanks frendo
god i elves
elves >:(
>>96714015>>96714018God I love hating elves
>>96713989C.S. Goto's fat pedophile Farseer was a secret Slaany worshipper and an obvious grimdark villain, anon. You shouldn't take him for the best representative for the race two surviving thirds of which aren't degenerates that have seen it almost completely destroyed.
>>96714001Why do women like Nightlords and Drukhari so much but not Emperor's Children who have a similar vibe?
>>96714001>He looks like the bad boy love interest from a romance book tiktok women would review.Too masc for thatt. queermoAnyways the art is pretty cartoony and exaggerated either way
i love elf gods
>>96714029Too vaguely sexcoded, while NL & DE are more violence-focused even if there is some hatefuck potential on the table.That said I don't think that many women are into NL either.
>see post about some dude getting sued by GW and whining about it while begging for money>look at the models he's making>they're literally just marines 1-to-1I don't know what he was expecting.
>"Wahh, I can't play named characters, because why is this character in MY battle?">Why not just use the model and datasheet and make your own named character up with an original backstory to lead your guys?>"No, I can't do that"Is there a bigger sign of someone who is intellectually damaged than someone who refuses to use named characters?
>>96713824TRVTHNVKE
>>96714048>Gold medal in mental gymnastics
>>96714048I mean its a little bit harder with primarchs now that they've been powerscaled from chapter master+ into whatever they are now.Aside from that proxying named characters is just not common although by no means rare, its far more often people whine and beg to include named characters in Crusade games from what I've seen.
>>96714048epic hero units are cringe superhero slop
Anyone got a mirror for the drukhari codex at all? I need a copy of the reaver rules because I found a unit in my stash and I need to be sanic fast.Got to replace these fat bois with something y'know.
>>96713969The 2nd ed termie chaplain is one of my faves, lovely helm.
>>96714048I don't understand this scenario, if 'they' don't want to use named characters what are 'they' whining about? You're completely free to abstain from using any
>>96714048Those types of people are just faggots whining for attention.They really don't want to a solution they just want to be butthurt and use any excuse no matter how bad or contrived to justify their butthurt.
>>96714064Can't upload PDF anymore and I'm too lazy to find a mirror for you. Google the usual places if you want the imgur album or the lazy PDF stitching the images together.
>>96714073Much appreciated anon. Imgur blocks me for some reason lmao.
>>96714066You know what else is lovely? Your doods. Always happy to see purple anon and his lovely doods.
>>96714085You a Brit? Imgur is unblocked in the UK now because of reasons.
>>96714067some of the new detachments only get their full rules if certain epic heroes are present, that's kind of a big deal and annoying..
>>96714090Still shows me as block sadly.
>>96714103Is that really much different from the named character themself locking rules behind...themselves
>mfw the imperium has more freedom than the UK
>>96714106Whoops, meant to say it is blocked in the UK. Not unblocked
>>96714121I don't think Imperial citizens can visit Imgur either
>>96714001>>96713975this has to be a female artist. it reminds me of that black templar art with the self-insert SoB who follows him around. this chaos marine probably has a female cultist who dotes on him.
>>96714029Cuz they don't have the vibe, they've fucked up the vibe, nobody knows what kind of vibe they're going for. Doesn't help that all the Slaanesh daemons look hideous, not just ugly but shitty too.
>>96714146I understand why Slaanesh is difficult for GW to manage, but I will never understand why they chose to represent Slaanesh the way they have. (I know there's baggage from the original D&D demons they converted into Chaos)
>>96714116rules tied to characters and costing appropriate points are fine. gimping a detachment unless you buy the appropriate character sucks in a bunch fo ways. every raven guard list looks the same now.
I think "goremonger" is a funny name. Basically any unit name that ends in -monger becomes silly. Yeah so these guys are traders in gore, real lucrative business that is, merchants like these are doing a killing these days. When you're in the market for gore, you don't want to settle for any common blood peddler, no, you want a goremonger.
>>96714165>bargaining gore with daemons & other khornates for favoursIDK what is so silly for this
>>96714165These are so goddamn lame to me, like "Jorge wants to be a world eater but mom won't let him".
>>96714184Yeah, I don't know what I expected for a World Eaters kill team but it definitely was not this
>>96714158But every space marine player has access to a big range of detachment choices, if that one doesn't appeal to you then use another>fucken space marine players complaining about the extra shit they get
just don't like their ears desu
>make something out of green stuff>basecoat, stipple and drybrush>notice that my fingerprints are all over itLooks fuckin awful now
>>96714193Aren't the vast majority of Space Marine detachments kind of shit and everybody just plays Gladius?
god i love aelves (chocolate coloured exodites specifically)
>>96712157His weapon shoud be scythe
>>96714204gladius, sometimes the vehicle one, then the new raven guard one is actually good but only if you use the new character that sold out immediately.
>>96714201If you like everything from the neck down, just give them a head swap. There's actually nothing about them that couldn't be an advanced human splinter faction wearing psychically attuned exotic armors and weapons.
>>96714165>When you're in the market for gore, you don't want to settle for any common blood peddler, no, you want a goremongerkek remids me of the joke in universe posters GW made way back when
>>96714204No, the vast majority of SM detachments are pretty good, but Gladius is the gold standard for what you want to have as tools. Advance charge, fall back shoot/charge, great defensive strat, good offensive tools like lance/ignores cover. It does literally everything, and all space marines always have access to it, so whenever GW makes something like a melee-focused detachment but leaves out advance and charge, SM players simply play gladius instead because it's such a crucial tool. But most SM detachments aren't actually bad, they do their thing just fine. Gladius is just kind of insanely good.
>>96714204Point is you got options, and when marine players complain that the extra shit they got out of marine favoritism isn't exactly what they wanted, it comes across petulant as fuck
>>96714219right but i would know that they are still an elf and i don't like that
>>96714232The recent complaining from a couple White Scars and Iron Hands fans about their mistreatment by GW has been especially tone deaf.
>>96714225marines are mid and gladius is the only thing that gets them there
>>96714192They parallel Khorne's Warcry unit. The Claws of Karanak emulate flesh hounds, the Goremongers emulate bloodletters.
>>96714237Why couldn't they be a guard Regiment that invaded and commandeered a Craftworld as their new base of operations with special dispensation and oversight from the Ordo Xenos to experiment with xenarite technology?
>>96714221THE PROTEIN POWDER IS OURS BACK THE FUMCK OFF?!
>>96714121maybe the true grim dark was the western democracies we lived in along the way
It's time you learned how to play the game.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/dw11jlqv/warhammer-40000-tactica-the-shooting-phase-part-1/
>>96714242This is just blatantly false, even if you consider the wider meta and not just what it looks like at your local club or store. Marines are perfectly fine and Firestorm, Vanguard, Ironstorm, Librarius, and a variety of chapter-specific detachments like Angelic Inheritors, Beastslayer and Wrath of the Rock are all good detachments that can do some cool things. If you told marine players they can't use Gladius, they would be fine because they have a dozen viable options.
>>96714103So just make your own dude and use the rules for him.
>>96714249>comandeered a Craftworldits just impossible for human
>>96714262space marine captain 'lore', explaining how basic rules work, lot of padding this week
>>96714283Not even with Deathwatch and Ordo Xenos support? Didn't they almost do exactly that in the Path of the Eldar books?
>>96714262They really are just not going to preview any of the White Scars or Iron Hands rules before the preorder goes up, are they?
>>96714304>They really are just not going to preview any of the White Scars or Iron Hands rules before the preorder goes up, are they?Nope. Makes you wonder how bad those rules must be...
>>96714313On the contrary, I'll bet the updated Ironstorm Spearhead is going to be busted as all hell because GW traditional is really bad at balancing IH rules.WS will be total trash though for sure.
Iron Hands rules are just going to be minor changes to Ironstorm spearhead shit like>Get rid of the FNP enhancement >You can now give a Dread an enhancement that gives it an invuln>Ignore modifiers strat replaced with fall back/advance and shoot strat with vehicles
>>96714321>I'll bet the updated Ironstorm Spearhead is going to be busted as all hellI sure hope so.
>>96714297codex says otherwise :P Humans dont posses psychic connection to run any eldar technology desu. Those books are not perticulary good or "cannon"
I 'member when like 10 avatars of khaine were killed in a single battle. Eldar are jobbers.
>>96712317You got it!Here's my Bad Moons who prioritize hunting Deathskulls for their stolen equipment- the Gold Jawz Battalion, led by Badmek Glitzkrakka
>>96714270epic herohammer sucks
>>96714351Humans are more powerful psykers than Eldar. If the Deathwatch deployed a Librarian or two they could probably get a Craftworld working long enough to have adaptive measures be applied.
>>96712157Getting there.
>>96714297They just had a chance of destroying it maybe with the combined force of a Space Marine chapter and who knows how many guardsmen, but then the Eldar started the diplomacy and explained that if it fails, the Craftworld goes boom together with the human forces on it and around and any survivors get mopped up by the Eldar reinforcements coming in.And according to the same books they'd have better luck trying to steal DEldar shit, because a lot of Craftworlder stuff works thanks to their innate psykery and probably Eldarness too.
>>96712317Have an old pic fro ma local tourney. Yes the yellow is washed and yes it is STILL violently bright.
>>96714129Crazy how 4chan went from V from Vendetta nerds to supporting moms against humanity shit that results in this kind of censorship. wild. I wish I could go back.
>>96714215I don't disagree, but I don't have any DG bits and I kinda like the big fuck you axe.
>>96714366They operate diffrently. Biologically and psyche are vastly diffrent and eldar tech are more like extension then tool. Also i disagree. Maybe big E but librarian? lol
>>96714366More like humans have some psykers more powerful than Eldar, many of them debatably "human".The PoE had a promising but young Seer single-handedly kill a war-hardened Librarian that she hyped up a lot before killing him.
>>96714384Gookmoot is suing the UK over exactly this sort of thing right now.
>>96714392Normal human Psykers are already able to commandeer Eldar tech. A Librarian would easily override whatever locks are in the controls to a Craftworld.
>>96714410That's one fat eldar.
>>96714410>Normal human Psykers are already able to commandeer Eldar techCorrection; humans in general are able to.In Warboss there's a Guardsman who picks up an Eldar shuriken weapon and is immediately able to use it. He even gets summarily executed afterwards for doing so.
She is very malicious so... her name is Lady Malys...
>>96714410source?
>>96714419He is very angry so... his name is Angron...
Are storm wardens loyal world eaters?
>>96714431No, there are no loyalists with traitor geneseed.
>>96714410>>96714366None of this really matters anyway because humans are officially allied with the Eldar as of the end of the Silent King book, so it's not unreasonable for a small elite band of human solidiers to be working with Craftworld Eldar as an elite xenotech-guard kind of regiment
>>96714418yea not my fault its in fanfiction. Its shouldnt be just possible but autors dont give a fuck
>>96714424Inquisitor Draxus literally carries around a shuriken catapult as her main weapon.In fact for a while it was the strongest shuriken catapult in the game.
roundhouse kick elvespick elves up by their ears and swing them aroundblast elves with a lascannonhand milk big blue tau mammaries into a tin bucketrun elves over with a landraidertie elves to a rocket and launch them into the sun
>>96714366Eldar deliberately stunt their psychic potential and limit it because otherwise it ends up as a "Slaanesh happens, everybody dies" situation, which result in the fact that they have vastly less and less powerful outliers than humans. They are still a lot more psychic on average. It's basically pic related.
>>96714410I just noticed she's grabbing a genestealer
>>96714431I always wondered, don't Space Marines have a biological imperative to follow their Primarch? Don't they have some kind of Aura or psychic presence that makes their sons bow before them? Wouldn't loyalist gene seed stock from traitor primarchs be a huge liability?
>>96714410The locks are almost irrelevant to it - the Librarian would have a difficult time piloting a battle barge untrained despite being able to sit in the command throne and that's a drastically smaller and simpler vessel built by humans specifically for Marines.
>>96713557I don't think anyone wants arcoflagellants
>>96714418Shuriken catapult canonically had trigger, as any other eldar weapon, also>mike brooksNot canon
Had a game today against Dark Eldar. Got stomped hard. I really suck at staging and using fire lanes properly. It's like my melee units are never in range to charge and my ranged units never have anything to shoot but then in my opponents turn I get charged and shot to death. At least I got a bunch of XP for crusade. Newly painted tanks got a grand total of 1 round of shooting before dying though.
>>96714262>The tenth edition of Warhammer 40,000 evolves the game to its best incarnation yet
>>96714445>Eldar can't go full power without their heads blowing up, and they're afraid of dying since they'll be raped for eternity>Humans will gladly push past their normal limits knowing that if they die, the Emperor will protect themOnce again, Eldar are cowardly and weak.
>>96714440She was trained by the eldar.
>>96714419He is very mortiferous so his name.... is Mortarion...
>>96714440pair her with some custodes guard and she still has the strongest shooting of any individual infantry model this edition
>>96714419He is literally red so... his name is Magnus the Red
>>96714487also Magnus is 'big' in latin. So his name just means "big and red"
>>96714468Yikes this doesn't make me want to play games
>>96714419He's the primarch of Iron Hands so... his name is Iron Hand... but in latin... Ferrus Manus...
>>96714048>"No, I can't do that"I just prefer not having named characters be mandatory if you don't want to play at a handicap. Yeah I can kitbash my own dude but I'm still stuck with the general theme and loadout of the original character for it to make sense. Maybe I just want to use the existing customizable generic version of the character which tends to have way more variation than yet another space marine dude with a flamer and a spear if I dare play firestorm.
>>96714440I headswapped this model to make a half-Eldar Inquisitor.
>>96714499What does? I'm just bad at the game.
>>96714506autism
>>96714514We're playing a pretend game with plastic toy soldiers we're all autists here.
>>96714448>don't Space Marines have a biological imperative to follow their PrimarchYes>Don't they have some kind of Aura or psychic presence that makes their sons bow before them?Yes>Wouldn't loyalist gene seed stock from traitor primarchs be a huge liability?YesThe Imperium has lost track of which chapter scame from which chapter, what came from which chapter etc. Imagine totally loyalist astartes fighting for the imperium for thousands of years, unblemished record. They encounter and daemon primarch and then find themselves knneling to him and feeling compelled to follow him. A neat little story could be made out of that. Obviously astartes can go aganist their primarch as we see in the HH
>>96714517What handicap do I get when I choose to play a list with a named character with you?
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qstbd918/heroes-of-the-first-founding-cold-iron/SAVLAR CHEM DOGS MENTIONED just so Iron Hands can blow them up lmao
>>96714524>Another space marine lore article
>>96714520>They encounter and daemon primarch and then find themselves knneling to him and feeling compelled to follow him. A neat little story could be made out of thatSounds like some World of Warcraft shit, very ass
>>96714523The handicap is not taking the named character, illiterate-kun.
>>96714262
at least models wise, are talos, chronos and grotesques supposed to be made out of eldar?
>>96714535I can't believe I'm saying this but I wanna go back to 7th.
>>96714544They have the Aeldari Keyword so functionally yeah, even though lorewise they are made from whatever subjects the Covens collect and want to experiment with.
>>96714546>wanna go back to 7th.No you don't. It was fucking ghey. Member riptide wing? Member wraithknight spam? Yeah. No thanks.
>>96714546
>>96714555I remember. I'm not saying that's good but I still prefer that to anything since 8th.
>>96714555>Invisible Baneblades/Titans
>>96714475Yeah, anon the tranny lover Moike says so. Space Marine Librarians would easily btfo Elda->A cry rings out, shattering the reverent silence. Brother Librarian Uxbal collapses, blood jetting from his eyes. His armour’s crystalline hood flares bright before exploding in a conflagration of warpfire. Aetheric flames leap over Uxbal’s prostrate form, their windswept roar marred by his screams. He tears away fistfuls of his face as it weeps away like tallow, collapsing in a charred husk.>There are three other Librarians on the Basilica Mortis, and each of them falls to a phantom affliction. Olthis bellows like an animal, charging into the wall of the sepulchre and dashing his head apart against the stone in a cloud of blood and skull fragments. A soul-curdling scream tears from Ionuth’s throat as his body ruptures in flash-mutation. His flesh bursts with spines that dissolve into rolls of glistening fat before hardening into stone. His scream is the one constant in the maelstrom of change, before his flesh shakes itself apart into pale, shivering globs. All of this occurs in the time it takes for us to draw our weapons.>Chief Librarian Zdeno alone endures. Driven to one knee, eyes screwed tight and weeping blood, armour crackling with hoarfrost as he withstands the psychic onslaught. I can hear his teeth breaking in his jaw.
>>96714546Why 7th?>yeah 10th and 9th sucked>But 8th that's where I draw the lineAmeriga exblain
>>96714402Based gookmoot
>>96714587>No mention of Eldar doing thisGo on anon, who's killing the Librarians?
>>96714592If I had to go back to another edition it'd be 3rd or 4th but the fact is that 3rd to 7th share the same core system which was changed in 8th and the game has sucked ever since. And if you make me choose from after that, I still think 9th is better than both 8th and 10th. 10th is probably the worst edition ever.
>>96714616Well that makes sense to me
>>96714609Eldar or invisible eldar fairy helpers:>A keening wail shrieks across the vox. The Space Marines recoil at the violent noise. I feel warmth pool in my ears and slide down my face. The shriek ripples and stutters, becoming a disjointed, lyrical sound. I realise that it is laughter. As suddenly as it began, it vanishes, replaced by the dread-soaked oppression of silence.>‘It is undeserved,’ a voice pierces the quiet. A female’s voice, mellifluous yet edged with barely restrained fury. The one who laughed. ‘Undeserved, but I grant you this. I shall have you know the name of the reckoning that has come for you. I am the Bahzakhain. I am exarch, the Swordwind and the Tempest of Blades. Know that in the moments remaining to you.’>I see Zdeno standing halfway up the steps of the altar. ‘Brother?’>He turns, movements sluggish and dreamlike. He raises his hand,pointing to the crystal dome above. I look, seeing only Posul.>‘I have come to take from you what you have stolen from us,’ she sings as the air trembles. ‘A future.’>I blink, and in that instant the void swells with swarming eldar warships. I watch the Endless Night break apart as they stream through its wreckage. The Basilica Mortis quakes under fire, and again the vox fills with laughter.
What was the point of this thingI'm still miffed by how big it ISN'T, I thought we were finally getting a Knight-sized plastic Nidzilla
>>96714616>10th is probably the worst edition ever.objectively false
>>96714638>invisible eldar fairy helpers:Lmao gaaaaaay
>>96714561If you want to go back to an earlier edition, why not 4th or so then? 7th is literally, actually the worst 40k ever got. 10th has its problems, but they're nothing compared to 7th. A very tanky unit in 10th has like a 2+/4++ with -1D or something, a tanky unit in 7th had a re-rollable 2++ (and no mortal wounds, so no way to actually punch through that if you weren't playing eldar and had abundant d-weaponry, another whole issue).
>>96714649It was a huge bait and switch, lolIt's just a new scaled-up Hive Tyrant without actually replacing the Hive Tyrant.
>>967146491) we don't really need Knightification of all armies, I am fine with not having a knight in the roster. Every army having a Knight-equivalent would be horrid2) Dima was basically a lithe, DEX-built Knight, the sizequeenism of Warhammer is really insane, we shouldn't compete who has the biggest toys3) thank fuck it is at least not an actual leader bug, pretty sure you can't make it a warlord thankfully. Nothing more lame than your leader also being the biggest toy, how cringe is that4) seeing a squad of brain bugs send a Knight/Greater Daemon to hell is funnier but that's just IMO>>96714663By fluff and function it isn't, tyrant is a leader bug, norns are giant lictors/neurolictors respectively. They're more of a guided missile rather than tacticool battle commander
>>96714651nta but name your criterias
The reason why GW makes use "centerpiece" models is because normies never liked miniatures.
>>96714561That's nostalgia talking. 7th edition was the worst iteration of the 3rd edition ruleset and it was by far worse than the worst possible of 10th. If you want to go back go back to literally any other edition
It's amazing how nidfags have a height complex that manages to exceed even the Custodes
would it be cringe if i started buying models for my second army before ive finished painting my first army ? if it makes a difference most of my second army is being gifted as bday presents ......
>>96714616the worst editions by far were 6th and 7thGoing through 6th especially was MISERABLE
>>96714419>>96714427>>96714477>>96714487>>96714501Bravo Tolkien
She is very Drax... so they call her Draxus...
>>96714616>but the fact is that 3rd to 7th share the same core system which was changed in 8th and the game has sucked ever since.7th edition had so much bullshit poured on top of the 3rd edition core system that basically made it irrelevant
>>96714715Rules are supposed to help you, it's not a religion.I would finish my first army before starting a second, but even I make exceptions to my own rules.
>Incubi are currently so expensive for what they do, the current thought in all the Dark Eldar communities is to just run Drazhar solo and have him murder everythinggrim
>>96714616The 6th-7th edition psychic phase ALONE was worse than literally all the worst aspect of 10th put together
>>96714616>10th is probably the worst edition ever.Comparing 10th to 7th is like comparing going to the movies and ending up seeing a very boring film that made you sleep to going to the movies and getting robbed and raped in the parking lot
>>96714758>Comparing 10th to 7th is like comparing going to the movies and ending up seeing a very boring film that made you sleep to going to the movies and getting robbed and raped in the parking lotMost accurate description I ever read
>Yeah sorry man these aircraft are literally invulnerable please buy GW terrain that has anti-air capabilities or lost every game>Don't have a new codex yet? Idk what to say guys you just have to wait for new fliers :)>Everyone's bought flyers? INTRODUCING SUPERHEAVIES INTO NORMAL 40K>STRENGTH D FOR EVERYONEno thanks
>>96714616What's wrong with 8th? It at least had cool customization and didn't purge swathes of wargear like 9th
>>96714744Everything in DE is expensive right now for what they do, except for maybe Hellions which are criminally undercosted. Kabalites got a nerf from index and still got a 15% point rise.
>>96714785>What's wrong with 8th?Oneshotting the enemy army turn 1 was a problem.Too many rerolls and auras, fragile models and ruins not blocking LoS.
>>96714789Wyches seem pretty amazing. Actually absurd threat range out of a raider, and while they don't do insane damage, it's still pretty good and a kitted succubus or Lelith with them will blend most infantry in the game.
>>96714649The hive tyrant used to be the size category of monsters like avatars and greater demons, now both of those jumped to a new larger size category and the hive tyrant has been left behind.GW didn't want to replace the hive tyrant kit yet so instead they made a new model that would fit that size category, taking on the alien queen crest and some ideas thrown around the dimachaeron.Hopefully they rectify the lack of a plastic biotitan soon, but the norn queen by itself has no faults of her own as a model or concept.If you want a bigger version you can grab an stl and upscale that.
>>96714811Wych cult models in general area all fantastic right now
>>96714719Then forget Erebus which is greek and just means "darkness" and it is also the firstborn son of the Primordial Chaos where everything else came from in Greek myth.Then there's Erda the biological mother of the primarchs. With her name meaning "earth" in old German.Get it? Mother Earth.
>>96714438>because humans are officially allied with the Eldar as of the end of the Silent King book,Fucking WHAT
But how can we add a Psychic Phase that is good?
>>96714487Red Magnus from Disgaea 5
>>96714801I guess I mostly perceived the game as 9th with (almost) everyone running 8th codex
>>96714830Don't have a psychic phase and just have a bunch of psychic powers that trigger during various other phases of the gameExpand 'Psychic' to also include acts of faith or experimental tech.
Luv me invisibility>commander sir, we've detected something on the scanners but cannot pinpoint what it is - some sort of interference is messing with it>excellent work trooper, we'll deal with this with area of effect saturation to get around enemy shenanigans>equip all solders with flamers and ready the artillery to bomb the area!Sounds logical right? Rules wise you got fucked because invisibility meant snap firing only and template weapons couldn't do that. This mean mechanically the most effective counter to psychic bullshit that is meant to make the psyker virtually impossible to see is a sniper rifle because snipers are famous for being able to shoot things they can't see.
>>9671483040k does not need a psychic phase. The current iteration of psykers works the best.
>>96714680>1) we don't really need Knightification of all armiesTyranids are one of the armies where giant monsters are always a good idea>2) Dima was basically a lithe, DEX-built Knightno, it wasn't, it's too small, it's essentially a trygon with legs, it's like thinking hormagaunts are marine equivalents>3) Nothing more lame than your leader also being the biggest toyTyranids are one of the armies where giant monsters being the leaders is always a good idea
>>96714815>GW didn't want to replace the hive tyrant kit yet so instead they made a new model that would fit that size category,Which, honestly, was a great call. The Hive Tyrant being a big monster but not the absolute biggest as his role is to be an actual commander is much better
>>96714830I like the old card system, the warp is fickle
>>96714830same as now, but more variety.a Genestealer Patriarch should do more than make you roll a battleshock that does almost nothing because it lasts for a fight phase.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ownkeqd4/rust-x-warhammer-40000-survive-in-style-with-wargear-inspired-by-the-death-korps-of-krieg/Pfft.
>>96714838>Dima was basically a lithe, DEX-built Knight>no, it wasn't, it's too small, it's essentially a trygon with legs,Which is funny because the Trygon used to be a Knight equivalent and an actual gargantuan creature
>>96714836The actual invisibility power in 7th was fluffed as the psyker reaching into their enemies mind and basically removing their presence (or the presence of whatever the target of the power was), not actual invisibility. That's why it was in the telepathy discipline, iirc.
>>96714858Ah, that explains why all scout snipers were some of the best for shooting at something they don't know is there!
>>96714854>Trygon used to be a Knight equivalentmaybe in epic, forge world massively downscaled the concept when making the first resin model and gw downscaled the profile further when making it a mainline plastic unit.Trygons aren't knights now and neither is the dima.
>>96714851Wait I remembered they also did a call of duty crossover.Holy shit 40k is fucking dead lmfao
>>96713015>>96713055>>96713065Didn't realize they were that painful, apparently he has Diverticulitis tho, idk how much that hurts.
The tyranid box is so ridiculous, i love it. Going to hurt my wallet tho
>>96714851>>96714866When's Fortnite?
>>96714887I think it's pretty great too. A neat way to get the neurotyrant for those that don't have it (the box with the screamer-killer and the tyrant is way too fucking expensive, and online only as well), and then it's just a whole bunch of big gribblies. But myself, I'm gonna fall for the fomo on the tau box. I was planning a battlesuit force for my next summer project (hopefully the new stealth suits are available separately by then), but fucking hell, I might have to push it up to get it started with that box.
>>96714649the point was to look cool. Nids consistelntly get some of the best designs.Hoping this continues with the rumoured new red terror model.
>>96714815>The hive tyrant used to be the size category of monsters like avatars and greater demonsThat's kinda BS. All those models are from 2003-2006 and old 4E tyrant is the same as the current one bar being metal, the sculpt and scale is identical.So no, unless you mean the ancient metal greater daemons I do not think that is very true or fair, the "scale creep" has occured ages ago.And if you mean ancient metal daemons, the 2E tyrant was even smaller than 2E warriors.>>96714838>it's too smallYou're insane, if Dima was any taller it'd completely dwarf any knight with its hands up, which is its default posture.Dimas are also as fast as a Keeper of Secret unlike Knights which are slowass, lumbering machines. They were costed nearly as much as a Knight and could rip a Knight in two, I don't fucking know what else you need. The weightclass and performance mean more than just a BEEEEG model, there is nothing more underwhelming than a huge centerpiece that dies to a stiff breeze and fails to kill much.>essentially a trygon with legsIt is taller and quite more sprawling, adding to the total volume occupied by a silhouette. But yes if a trait-souped up Trygons can/could realistically kill knights I fail to see the issue.>Tyranids are one of the armies where giant monsters being the leaders is always a good ideaMaybe if they're like Tervigon/Trygon prime at most.
>>96714836And there was nothing to stop you from casting it on a superheavylol invisible Baneblade. Titan even.Another 'quirk' of the psychic balance of that era was the horrific valley of usability between powers that actually shot energy at enemies and ones that provided buffs, just by the nature of how many rounds of dice-rolling there was between announcing and shit happening.Witchfire>Casting roll>Maybe enemy gets to make a Deny roll>Roll to see how many shots>Roll to hit>Roll to wound>Roll saves>Maybe roll damage>Maybe a FnPSeveral rounds of rolling, each one a chance for the dice to turn the whole thing into a fart. Maybe you inflict a wound or two at the end of it.Blessing>Casting roll>Thats it50 guardsmen just got a 4+ invuln or full rerolls to hit
>>96714892When they make cereal boxes then I'll call it over
>>96714902from what tau enjoyers have told me, the tau box is good because you get a load of drones with it.those older suits are definitely showing their age next to farsight tho.
>>96714910Actually, invisibility could never target vehicles. Monstrous creatures on the other hand... It's one of the reasons there was such a skew towards monsters in 7th, and why the wraithknight was so absurdly busted. It was already probably the best superheavy in the game, but the fact that it was gargantuan and not a superheavy walker meant it had a whole bunch of insane rules associated with it automatically, and much better interactions.
>>96714839I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, but the tyrant was never meant to be small.It would be cool if we could have both a tiny tyrant and a bigger tyrant, even if with the coming of the norn emissary a larger tyrant kit would be pretty redundant.Maybe GW realises they can add upgrade sprues to kits other than knights and one day adds a sprue of options to the norn queen, so one build option of the kit is indeed a big tyrant (hierotyrant? hive lord? swarm tyrant? norn pretorian?)
>>96714950I want full blow Mech battles with my Knights vs huge Tyranids, Pacific rim style!
>>96714909>So no, unless you mean the ancient metal greaterDon't be a fucking retard who compares gw kits with forge world kits.those were EXALTED greater demons, use the actual metal greater demons that were made in the same period as the tyrant.
Combat patrol boxes should at the very least include the rules for whatever datasheets it includes and whatever detachment it seems geared towards.
>>96714967100%, when I first started I was blown away that rules came separate from the box the units came in.
>>96714967Don't they come with simplified data sheets for their Combat Patrol rule set? Even if they don't, those are all freely available online anyway.
>>96714965>compare metal 2E daemon miniatures with 4E tyrantNo thats fucking silly as shit. And 2E tyrant was smaller than 2E greater daemons, a fucking 3E hormagaunt head fits it decently well size-wiseAnd 3E tyrant already brutally mogs 2E greater daemons in size, being about 50% bigger>>96714950Stop, you have to recognize that EVERY faction in the game can make a case for "hey, we have a Knight-class unit in fluff too!" We don't need to turn the game into a Knight vs Knight 100m scale game, which would be exactly the result
>>96715032Eh, not EVERY faction
>>96715040>BAGGER 288>BAGGER 288>BAGGER 288
>>96715040It'd be easy as shit to pull one out of the ass, like a gargant-size abominant made from Gene-kissed Sepolcrali DNA by Tainted Coil, or some Knight-sized asteroid-mining rigWhen you give Knights to 95% of the factions, the leftover 1 or 2 would be just checkmarks to fill, not an outlier even
Is the collage only for 40k? Is there a non-40k collage? AoS stuff is more in tune with halloween.
>>96715070>Tainted Coilidfk why my brain cross-wired the name of Twisted Helix with demons from Brutal Legend but you get what I meant to say lol
Playing my first game of 10th today, havent played since 8th. Buddy gonna show me the ropes, 1000 points of his Desthguard vs my Tyranids. I want to play all my big boys to not have to move tons of models. I got in the list:SwarmlordOld One EyeDeathleaperNeurotyrantCarnifexBiovoreand a Norn Emissary Question; is Neurotyrant the okay option in this list or is there another HQ choice that fits better? And what would be the best detachment for this list, buddy said we will choose when we play but want to come more prepared to the game. Any help would be appreciated.
ITT 40k was better when it was the most broken it has ever been.
>>96715082>Is there a non-40k collage?We don't concern ourselves with the lesser games here. I doubt /aosg/ even gets enough traffic to make a collage.
>>96715040>>96715032Drukhari don't really have anything close to knights class either. Kind of by design.
>>96715109They've got some stuff in lore that they can pull out.
>>96715104The start of 10th was the most broken it has ever been and it's not close.
>>96715032>>compare metal 2E daemon miniatures with 4E tyrantthey're not just "2ed demon miniatures", they've been the norm for greater demons FROM the year 2000 (97,98,99) to the second half of the 2010s.And the hive tyrant has covered the same size category all through that period.So, no, you're wrong and stop being retarded.
>>96715113Like what? Tantalus is the biggest ship they ever had (rip) and they can't field Eldar knight titans because those require Psykers to pilot. That one they added in the Dawn of War mod was not a canon thing from the lore.
>>96715114Not in this timeline.
>>96715123Vect has massive vaults filled with things he calls his 'Castigators', which are Eldar Wraith Constructs that have had the Pain Engine treatment and are tricked out with the best Haemonculi covens have to offer. Bladed limbs and all of that. They're still psychic enough to use psychic weaponry too.Make a Wraithknight one of those and it's a lore-accurate superheavy
>>96715114the start of 10th isn't even the most broken Eldar have been
Dark eldar don't need anything mega, just give them a big skimmer barge with a big gun on it as their centrepiece. I think they have no units over 200points right now
>>96715082Yes, this is /40kg/. Feel free to copy the rentry formating and organize your thread, its a free pastebin site and you can make one for AoSg or whatever other community threads there are.https://rentry.org/40k-General
>>96715109I can imagine a Haemonculus Coven making a knight-sized....thing. Some giant frankenTalos or something. It'd be perfect in lore as a "boss" area creature or something.
>>96715032Tyranids are not any other faction, tyranids are the monsters faction, a knight-titan class unit isn't just something that is possible or can make sense, but it's a fundamental part of their identity, they've always had ominously gigantic monsters in the backdrops of their artworks more than any other faction.If you want to deny them their plastic titan, then be honest and admit it's out of spite or egoism and not any sort of logic, goodwill, or consistency.
>>96715104>>967151147th was far more broken>>96715149Eldar Tau allied army was worse>>96715123I'm kind of hoping they make a plastic Tantalus one day. I know its a long shot, but it might happen. It was a gorgeous design, Jay's video on painting his two really made me fall in love with them.
There is literally nothing wrong with being human.There is literally nothing wrong with killing ayy lmaos on sight.Thank you for your attention on this matter.
>>96715144Castigator wraiths are wraithguard size.Wraith knights are piloted vehicles. They require a specifically attuned pilot linked to the wraith soul inside them
>>96715174That's what I'm saying, shoot those ratlings on sight
>>96715121I didn't realize how NEW the yuge plastic greater daemons were.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Daemons_(Warhammer_40,000)
>>96715100i think your overthinking it desu, just play what you like.
>>96715152orrrrrrrrrr bring back the reaper and tune its gun to be more focused on putting holes in titanic units.
>>96715121>And the hive tyrant has covered the same size category all through that period.You're soo silly anon, lmaoTHey were never in the same size categoryIt was either 2E daemons being quite larger than the 2E tyrant, which is the size of the modern WarriorOr it was 3E and onwards tyrant being FAR bigger than the 2E daemonsThen comes forgeworld and makes bigger Greater Daemons, but pray tell me, why the fuck have they never made a hive tyrant in the same size category?Because they never fucking were "the same size category" as you're trying to lie through your teeth about, no matter how you fucking spin it
>>96715187if they are ditching daemons are really hope belakor gets rolled into CSM codex, awesome model.
>>96715149are we talking 2E where you could have a cheese Exarch with like 3 2+ saves?
>>96715167I like tyranids just as much as you, I just don't want any more knights in the game because the more you cave in, the more that shit proliferates across the systemStop fanboying and think about what's healthy for the scale of the game, Knights were a mistake and the casket should be kept closed tight
>>96715203what about the invisible strength d wraithknights
>>96715100Incredibly bad drawing
>>96715167We could have a plastic Heirodule. But a Heirophant would be RIDICULOUS. Imagine the base size and area denial.
>>96715123>can't field Eldar knight titans because those require Psykers to pilotThey have already mindbroken Wraithknights so that is hardly and argument
>>96714366Eldar psykers beating human psykers is is like the one thing even BL writers are consistent with
>>96715174"""" FENRISIANS """" are not human
>>96714851wtf is a Rust some slav shooter survivor game?
>>96715114Anon, index eldar was fucking crazy and clearly a design mistake based on GW having to get all the indexes out, but don't fucking pretend it was as bad as 7th bullshit with re-rollable 2+ invulns and the absurdity that was 7th ed eldar. And then we can get into stuff like virus bombardments in 2nd edition just wiping the opponent's entire army because he wanted to model his space wolves without helmets.
>>96715221Meanwhile Ork psykers can pop Farseer heads with a glance
>>96715109>>96715123Haemonculi can create flesh titans and Vect has gigantic floating ziggurat fortress“The Tower of Flesh was a horrifying Dark Eldar device created by the Haemonculus Coven of the Thirteen Scars. A massive living siege bastion created under Hexachires, the tower is made up of the flesh of untold numbers of tormented prisoners and slaves. Normally serving as the headquarters for the Thirteen Scars in Commorragh, it was used as a mobile fortress during the Battle of Belial IV, where it devastated Fabius Bile's forces and destroyed several Chaos Titans. Fabius is able to disable the tower with a modified plague to infect its bio-structure. He then destroyed it by having his Word Bearers Diabolist Saqqara Ur-Damak Thresh summon Daemons which consumed it.”
>>96714827That anon is weirdly late, it's more like Eldrad and Guilliman are allied, so Eldrad has one of his farseer buddies as an ambassador and advisor to Guilliman with some dire avenger bodyguards. We've known about that for years. They saved Guilliman when he was about to get fucked by the Silent King
>>96715222go vacuum up your legion, magnus
>>96714638>random exarch is easily able to kill the chapter master of the mortifactors and his guardgood thing she wasn't fighting night lords
>>96715220They have mind broken wraith blades/guard
>>96715255Whatever, same shit
>>96715260They explicitly do not work the same way as the Knights
>>96715238>Mike Brooks
>>96715265Whats the difference?
>>96715192>THey were never in the same size categoryYes, they are, your image shows it well, once you remove the forge world exalted demon bullshitbeing the same size category doesn't mean being the same identical sizeI gave you the years they've been concurrent, while you keep either retardedly or dishonestly calling them 2nd ed demons when they coexisted with the 2nd ed tyrant only for less than 4 years AT MOST, less than 2 years in some cases.
if you torture one half of a wraithknight twin to the point she mindbreaks and turns into a drukhari what happens to the wraith-twin
>>96715208>we should have less miniatures because the rules are shitfuck youit's like arguing that the kits shouldn't have weapon options because gw was retarded enough to remove weapon points costs.
>>96713470What precludes a hobbyist from doing any of this in 40k though?
>>96715268A wraith guard is essentially a small fragment of infinity circuit that lets the dreaming dead enact a simulacrum of life for a short while. They are barely aware of the world around them and need a spirit seer to guide them through the waking world and connect them back to reality.A wraith knight is an even more massive construction and the awareness of the soul within it is even more disparate. The only way to call forth their awareness is a powerful psychic anchor from a living twin who can let them briefly live again by a harmonious melding of souls of the living and the dead. The correct pilot is as rare and irreplaceable as the soul of the knight itself.
>>9671529340k hobbyists don't have enough imagination to consider khorne armies other than world eaters, let alone differently nuanced aspects of khorne.
>>96715238Not any Ork psykers. Warpheads.Warpheads with a Waaagh! near them.
>>96715254>Banshee Exarch with an Executioner>A3, 2+, AP-3, D3, Anti-Infantry 3+That feels like she can punch WAY above her weight as a Sergeant
>>96715291>hating wargear is the same as hating on every faction having a knightInsane projection Do you understand that you can't give nids a Knight of their own without this spiralling into more Knights for everyone else? And I would much rather have no Knight than everyone to have a Knight?>we should have less miniaturesNo but we should for sure have less abominations like Knights or Kytan Ravagers (horrible model btw), regardless if it is MY faction or not
>>96715273Dude come on lolYou still haven't weaseled out of the question of, considering FW had all the resources and time in the world, why would they embiggen Daemons but not Tyrants?Its because that Greater Daemons, pretty early on, eclipsed Daemon Princes (the ACTUAL same size category unit as Tyrants) in fluff but not in model sizeNot to mention even early Realms of Chaos art showing Greater Daemons be far bigger
>>96715254Chalk it up to Eldar plot armor.
>>96715319>you can't give nids a Knight of their own without this spiralling into more Knights for everyone else?Yes, you can, for the same exact reason you think the game can be perfectly fine enough by drawing the line at nids, otherwise you would be arguing for all knights to be removed, instead of specifically nids not getting a knight.And nids already have a nidzilla type of list, whether the plastic titan would affect the meta or not would depend entirely on how OP it's made, not on whether it exists or not.You don't want it due to rules? fine, I don't care, make it apocalypse only, I want it for modelling purposes.
>>96715349>why would they embiggen Daemons but not Tyrants?because they are EXALTED greater demons, they're not the same thing as the normal greater demons, they were made that way because chaos is creatively bankrupt and had no good ideas for titanic units while FW gave nids the hierodule and hierophant and harridan.I didn't weasel out of the question, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt about it being a momentary retardation, because you cannot in good conscience believe those were the norm for demons at any point.
>>96714950>but the tyrant was never meant to be small.The current Tyrant is not small. It's pretty big. It's just not Super heavy class big.
So chaos is the faction the working class right?
>>96715395It used to be the same weight class as greater demons and the avatar of khaine, now it's not, so it's small.
>>96715401>So, Chaos is the faction of the working class, right?FTFY
>>96715401No. It's a free-for-all where the most cunning and strongest rise to the top.The factions that care for the working class are the T'au and GSC.
>>96714546base 7th without any of the cancer added on top was great
>>96715401Chaos of the faction of the ones raised by a single mother
>>96715384>because you cannot in good conscience believe those were the norm for demons at any pointThey evidently became the norm because GW clearly didn't wanna keep Daemon Princes and Greater Daemons in the same size class.Even under your framework of the argument, Tyrants were never intended to be Greater Daemon class, they were always Daemon Prince class, it is just coincided that Greater Daemons used to have incredibly fucking shrimpy models.>retardedly or dishonestly calling them 2nd ed demons... I call them that because some of them were released in 1997 and 1998 anon. I understand that it might be confusing but there is no better name for those models. Although I must correct myself that apparently the Lord of Manlets was released in 3E.
>>96715318>tfw 9th ed Banshee Exard with 10 D2 attacks and 3WI fucking loved that bitch, she was so fucking funny. So many times enemies went from "It's just one model left in the unit, it'll be fine" to "oh fucking god there's still one model left in the unit". 9th ed was busted, but it definitely had flavor.
>>96715401There is literally a worker's revolt army in the game
>>96715401Chaos is a faction of action ruled by strength. The Imperium is diseased. Rotten to the core. Burn it down and from the ashes a new Dark Imperium will rise. The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive, free to live as they see fit.
>>96715430Jesus Christ, you mongoloid, I'm not saying greater demons aren't big NOW, I'm saying that they weren't big THEN, the exalted fw demons were exceptionally titanic versions for apocalypse only.The normal greater demons were roughly as big as the hive tyrants they've been concurrent for the absolute longest time.While now the greater demons have been moved to a new size category due to the size creep of units in the game while tyrants have been left behind.Stop being retarded now.
>>96715476tsons are the coolest edgy marines, you can't change my mind
>>96715490If only the models were half as cool as the art
>>96715307>consider khorne armies other than world eatersHey, we've got one daydreaming failure ITT who namedrops the Blood Pact every so often.
>>96715494rubrics, sorcerers and their unique termies are all great
>>96715471>The normal greater demons were roughly as big as the hive tyrants they've been concurrent for the absolute longest time.You understand that you're saying this in an argument about Hive Tyrant size, right? Just because Greater Daemons were the same size as Daemon Princes doesn't mean that Hive Tyrants - which have always been analogous to Daemon Princes - should be the size of current Greater Daemons, that's silly as fuck.
>>96715280[everyone was harmed in the piloting of this wraithknight]
>>96715494?? All their models are great. Ahriman is easily the best chapter master model in 40k.
>>96715509>which have always been analogous to Daemon Princes no, they haven't, now at best you can argue them being their new equivalent, but only by exclusion I said to stop being retarded, not to double down on your retardation
>>96713169I think they're cool, but I'm definitely going to mix them in with my XV15 and XV25s for maximum hobo-pirate mixtech.
>>96715490I'd say they're the cutest edgy marines.
>>96715515>new equivalent>newYou silly, you're arguing against yourself at this point, because daemon princes were roughly as big as tyrants for as long as they've existed and for a longer period of time than greater daemons. Stop stumbling over your own argumentation, mumbling "retard" over and over like a mantra wont make you look any more convincing
>>96715553I really need to get myself one of these at some point
>>96715192is it just me or are the forgeworld paintjobs horrifyingly uncanny and off-putting? I can't even look at the Lord of change for more than 2 seconds cause it just looks cursed as hell.
>>96713780unironically yes, they obviously don't have anyone involved in their balancing decision-making process that plays tsons, it's just vibes.
>>96715280According to Valedor the dead twin is barely lucid at all. They'd probably just feel sad with the vague knowledge that their twin was tortured.
>>96715192old Keeper of Secret and GUO look so much more interesting than the modern ones, damn
>>96715494the models are great, if anything they just need to release another exalted-esque kit that would allow for more kitbashingthey could just split the rubric datasheet and release an upgrade sprue with melee weapons and tsons players would dance in the street
GW onto their next lawsuithttps://youtu.be/32xzMuAWs-4?si=tW1w5o1HYUVUGfmc>you will buy ze models at full price>you will accept price hikes>you will not use alternative sculpts This best part is it’s not under copyright law, but ‘Unfair competition. The poor multimillion dollar company can’t afford to sculpt cheap STLs!
>>96715573good bait
>>96715203In 7th edition a squad of swooping hawks could deep strike without scatter every turn, dropping large blasts of grenades while doing so and having a weapon on the exarch with a gigantic range that only needed to hit to force the entire target unit to pass an initiative test (so for example Orcs failed on a 3+) or be reduced to WS1 and snap shots for the entire following turn. This was widely considering not good enough to be played compared to alternatives in the codex. Let that sink in.
>>96715554>because daemon princes were roughly as big as tyrantsand roughly as big as greater demons too because they were one size categoryonly NOW the category has been split up because some of the members got moved to a greater weight class.but there was never any equivalence between princes and tyrants any more than there was between tyrants and demons.how can you be so dumb?
Is it me or darklegionmarket has been on maintenance for a few weeks now
>>96715583Honestly, good luck to this studio. Did some initial looks into it and it seems they have a very very strong case to beat GW here. Unfair Competition isnt easy to win in the UK apparently.
>>96715618Why would it be sorted out in the UK? Isn't this guy in Italy?
>>96715618The issue will be if GW just drags it out with their Monopoly money to the point where they can’t afford to fight it. I don’t see how GW can in any way claim unfair competition when any miniature can be used for their games not just these
>>96715624If it's in Italy GW Is fucked. The average time for a civil cause here is ten years
>>96715604I literally saw with my own eyes 2000 points of Eldar destroying 4000 points of Orks in 7th edition.People that in 10th edition cry over 44% winrate have no idea how good we have it now.
>>96715624Feel free to prove me wrong but from what I've seen the lawsuit was filed in the UK, I do believe he is from Italy. This would affect transactions domestically not internationally.
>>96715634>no idea how good we have it now.Yep. I sick of faggots acting nostalgic for something they never experienced. The end of 7th edition wasn't even fun for casual players. The game was fucking broken.
Can you have these printed in armiger scale?
>>96715634>2000 points of Eldar destroying 4000 points of Orks in 7th edition.how many of those 2000pts of eldar were bikes, serpents and knights?how many of those 4000pts of orks were boys and bitchboy trukks?
>>96715583Why would they go against something like ghamak where mantic and opr are way bigger and way more direct with how shit is meant to compare with gw?Is it just because a smaller target is easier to blow out for a precedent?
>>96715595NTA but I think that the new keeper is fucking boring
>>96715557They're about 45 € each on ebay
>>96715655It really was atrocious and there were constant halts in games because formations provided surprise special rulesThat can do what? Why?My formation :^)
>>96715669It was many years ago, but I believe it was a Windrider host + Wraith Host.I remember the D flamer wraith destroying everything in overwatch, there was a knight and plenty of bikes.I can't say about Orks, I never really knew the faction, but it was a very beautiful army with many older models. It had a little bit of everything I think, basically the dude's entire collection.
>>96715684Probably. His Space Marine models are a little blatant, and he doesn’t even have 2K subs on Youtube. If they’re successful here they could spook the others into submission. Mantic has a bunch of licensed minis too, the biggest one being Halo, so they probably have a stronger foundation to defend themselves.
>>96715684Same reason they don't go after Blizzard. They can't bully companies with money, but they can bully small creates and cause chilling effect that keeps new competition from rising.
>>96715684>Is it just because a smaller target is easier to blow out for a precedent?yes
>>96715595>everything I don't agree with is bait
>>96715698uhhh
>>96715632Theres also that if he is telling the truth, and I have no reason to believe he isn't ,pic related is a example of something they are citing as breaking copyright.These are all very distinct from GW's sculpt so it not like they are quibbling over pauldrons like chapter house. I dont see how this would be different than them going after someone selling 20 skeletons as Unfair competition to their undead models.
My Night Bringer tanked a Redemptor Dread, 10 Jumpack ints, Eradicators and 10 Hellblasters and only lost 6 HP then he swung back and one shot my opponents Redemptor. Is this why they are shunned in 1k games lol?
I don't know if I should start a Soulforged Warpack CSM army right now or wait and see if they give Darkmech/Vashtorr an actual army in 11th
>>96715583If what the guy in the video says is true then yeah hope he wins
>>96715909Chaos is clearly going to get some radical changes in 11th
>>96715933That's what I heard. Maybe I'll just work on making some nonspecific darkmech cultists that I can slot into whatever ends up happening.
>>96715721I watched a sloptube video yesterday where a guy went through how every edition got broken. Apparently marines in 7th got a formation that let you take 5+ razorbacks for FREE. GW must have needed to shift stock bad
>>96715893>Is this why they are shunned in 1k games lol?Yes. The Nightbringer isn't even the egregious one since he just does a lot of damage.>Transcendent C'tan has Deep Strike and cross-map Teleport>Deciever has Stealth>Void Dragon turbo-fucks vehicles4++/5+++/Half-Damage on a flying T11 model with 12 wounds that regenerate passively is incredibly nasty even in a 2k game. At 1k it can win the game just by itself.
>>96715583>James runs into a problem that's solely of their own creation>Calls out the lawyers again to lash at the nearest person instead of trying to actually remedy the issue
>>96715949Damn, they're just so sick bros I gotta play with them!
Do you think his sword, the dragon slayer, can permanently kill daemons?
>>96714758Yeah 10th really is that bad.
>>96714830Just do the same 30k does.
>>96715987no, it seems more equivalent to a regular daemon weapon at best, not the emperor's sword or the sword of asur
>>96715583Isnt this the same issue they had with chapterhouse? What makes them think they'll win this time?
>9th edition CSM: Stupid gimmick based on taking a phrase autistically literally that only applies to specific guns>10th edition CSM: Fun gimmick that has various interactions across units and detachmentsSimple as that for me
>>96715987yesit's absorbed so much magic bullshit from all his apostle killing that it's become heavily enchanted accidentally
>>96715242Fabius Bile shows why humans are kind of a Mary Sue race in 40k. Most of them are weak, but there are so many of them that the person who is Best at something will often be a human. The Emperor is the strongest psyker, Fabius Bile being so talented at his mad scientist shit he is becoming a minor chaos god, things like
>>96716008It's even shakier than chapterhouse, chapterhouse was literally selling [unit name from codex] bits, no "space warrior big pauldron" nonsense
>>96715978>lawsuit turns into a shitshow>GW doubles down and shits the bed some more>for years and years everyone blames the guy for infringing on GW IP
>>96716014>>96716007It gets stronger over time. It was bathed in so much magical blood that it become an enchanted weapon. Every time you kill a supernatural being with it the sword gets stronger. It might be strong enough to kill lesser daemons now.
>>96716025magical swords in fantasy/aos don't usually permakill daemons, it's only the tippest of the top tier (widowmaker, sword of asur, emperor's sword)
>>96715987only if they got 6 limbs, 2 of which being wings, otherwise no.
>>96715949He was also complaining that the models for them are way to small and should be much bigger and easier to target from anywhere on the field. I think he does have a point there.
>>96716046Yeah Nightbringer and Deceiver are still really small being older model. The Nightbringer's already got a new model announced that's suitably larger coming next year.
>>96716032>the sword of asurI'd wager Dragon Slayer is at least as powerful as that, it's just a diresword empowered by the soul of an eldar in a spirit stone. It probably couldn't kill a greater daemon either. The Emperor's Sword and the Croneswords are on a different level, basically divine objects. When Guilliman killed necrons with the Emperor's Sword it even fucked up their resurrection protocols so they stopped sending lords. It's a plot device tier weapon.
>>96716024To be fair chapterhouse were actually retarded just selling with the straight up model names
>>96715583>GW is up to its retard antics once againJesus Christ, do these islander retards never learn?It'd be funny if this just caused GW to lose a fuck loads of money and make their stocks tank, that'd be great.
>>96715978GW could make mint with official STLs since there’d be no mould costs but they’re worried about people pirating them (which I would do)
>>96715987Yes.
>>96716106It won’t, the only people who will care are people who always just print. Paypigs will say ‘good he infringed on their IP’
>>96716073>it's just a diresword empowered by the soul of an eldar in a spirit stone. It probably couldn't kill a greater daemon either.My brother in Christ, Asurmen is literally the embodiment of Asuryan's will manifested in mortal form. The reason N'kari hasn't properly reformed in 40k OR AoS yet is because Asurmen killed him that fucking hard with the Sword.
>>96716127It doesn't belong in the same category as the Emperor's Sword, which is imbued with the power of a god that is strong enough to burn Nurgle and scar all of his daemons. I can't speak to AoS but it is not equivalent to the ES. The dragon slayer is as magical as any diresword. At least.
Thoughts? I'm expecting it to be kinda ass, but would it at least be fun?
>>96715684Odds are they didn't expect this to go to court, the threat alone is usually enough to get smaller companies to back down. GW legal is actually probably having a bit of a time right now if it is, because now they have to explain to the CEO how their scare tactic backfired and might lead to 3rd parties having more power in the mini sphere again.
>>96715933Why do you think that
>>96716139>It doesn't belong in the same category as the Emperor's SwordYeah because the Emperor's a little bitch who got his shit pushed in by a half-mad Horus while the Chaos Gods took turns laughing at him.>Buh muh garden burningBoy that Garden is INFINITE. Nurgle doesn't give a fuck about the Emperor lighting a match in it, he genuinely couldn't be bothered enough to even go out and deal with it. All the Emperor did was make room for new growths.
>>96716155do you not feel shame typing autistic shit like this
>>96716155The Emperor in 30k was an unbelievably powerful psyker, but the emperor in 40k is not the same being. What he is now can only be described as a god, a being that has been worshipped by quadrillions of humans for thousands of years while also being feed psykers constantly. >Boy that Garden is INFINITE. Nurgle doesn't give a fuck about the Emperor lighting a match in it, he genuinely couldn't be bothered enough to even go out and deal with it. All the Emperor did was make room for new growths.Actually read the book. One of Nurgle's Greater Daemons says they can all feel the pain of what the emperor did, that Nurgle twists and turns but the pain does not fade. He got sucker punched pretty fucking hard
>>96716155Chaos strong imperium bad yeah we get it already
>>96716170Not really, helps the work day go by a little faster.
>>96716170
>>96716177He's just trolling at the end of the thread. Nobody actually cares about eldar that much.
>>96715318Yeah, the banshee exarch is great, I've seen her take out 3 terminators in 1 round of combat. Fights first means she always gets an attack in.
I need to look more into the shitfest but I wonder why so many companies think they can sell bootleg warhammer ip models and get mad when they get told they are breaking IP?
>>96716225Because they're completely unique sculpts with no defining warhammer motifs
>>96716225It's only ever Space Marine proxies GW gets up in arms about, isn't it? I feel like the Guard secondary parts market has been booming for a long time undisturbed.
>>96715684>sue small creator that can't defend themselves >create legal precedent >use legal precedent to go after larger creators
>>96716240models that are too close to orks or guard or necrons or skaven or chaos warriors all get C&D'd too
>>96716094Everyone says this, nobody has provided examples beyond CH telling you what you can use the model as, which B&S also does and nobody shits on them.
>>96716225>I wonder why so many companies think they can sell bootleg warhammer ip models and get mad when they get told they are breaking IP?Because selling legally distinct things is not illegal and GW does not own IP for "scifi space men in heavy armour with a backpack" or "big demon guy with an axe".
>>96715947olden demon is based you cretin
>>96716296companies can absolutely defend copyright on generic things like that being sold in a specific context.
>>96716296It may be not technically illegal but if you know you're selling bootleg warhammer, your customers know you're selling bootleg warhammer and GW knows you're selling bootleg warhammer then it's no surprise you're gonna get accused of selling bootleg warhammer models. Instead of selling bootleg versions of an existing IP, why not make your own stuff? Again, this isn't refering to this particular case because I don't know what the dude sells but I've seen this many times before.Same with the fan animation hysteria. GW never shut anyone down for doing 40k animations, they told them they couldn't monetize those animations which seems logical to me.
New?
>>96716225I wonder why GW thinks they can steal the idea of "power armored orbital drop troops fighting space bugs and weird skinny aliens" without getting sued for stealing IP from Starship Troopers.
>>96716332Sure, go ahead
>>96716334If they don't call it Starship Troopers and infringe on the trademark then making a tabletop miniatures game that is superficially similar to a book and/or movie is pretty much perfectly legal. Context is everything.
>>96716317If everyone knows it's not GW design, then GW can't claim brand confusion, and if they're not direct copies, merely "look similar", then it's not a copy.
>>96716356the guys making third party models don't call it warhammer or use any copyrighted designs or names
you don’t understand judge GW is losing money by allowing these third party sculptors to exist>glances at last years record financial reports
>>96716370but they are making models same as GW. that's why a claim of unfair competition/IP infringement or whatever can be levelled. it's not enough to call it a "not space marine" and be legally in the clear in every court in the world.
>>96716390If there's precedent set then Bandai will be launching their own primaris lines by 2028.
>>96716392they aren't>>96715846
>>96716153Chaos Daemon not getting a codexEC not having any tanks beside rhino and land raider
>>96716401That would be hilarious
>>96716408gw cannot be caught selling a product called "emperor children predator"
>>96716392Not everyone lives in the corporate dystopia that is USA, there are still places in the world where smaller players can fight back. Being vaguely similar, or even inspired by something does not mean it's a knockoff or a copyright infringement
>>96716420shut up dad
>>96716392They have no legal grounds, they just know that the threat of legal action no matter how baseless is enough to scare off 99% of smaller businesses
>>96716402the guy says he's not being sued for copyright infringement, just "making models compatible with their games". depending on the language on his website (which didn't work for me so idk) that could be a reasonable claim.
>>96716436You hear this myth a lot. Unfortunately not always true. Many of these "innocent independent artists" fuck up some way in their marketing if not the designs themselves that makes them vulnerable.
>>96716356>t. Clueless
No one baked so here's an autism edition>>96716506>>96716506
GW complaining about bootlegs/theft when their main IPs are offshoots of DnD mixed with a fuckton of pop culture reference drowned in generic fantasy elements will always be ridiculous to me.It's just big money suits trying to stiffle competition, fuck 'em and don't be a bootlicker.
>>96713121It was a special exclusive mini and was meant to be better, idk.
>>96716510Is the crazy throoder still around?
>>96713470>some wholefoods-rattled Whitewommen have been caught feeding pitties with human flesh, muttering praises to the Great Mauler
>>96716177>Actually read the book. One of Nurgle's Greater Daemons says they can all feel the pain of what the emperor did, that Nurgle twists and turns but the pain does not fade. He got sucker punched pretty fucking hard>read the passage>It's just rumours.What kind of a faggot are you?
>>96712218It feels like GW has always leaned heavily on the fans filling in the blanks with their custom Armies. its only now they've gotten so lazy when it comes to lore writing and worldbuilding that there isn't even a hint of support for anything other than the most basic face view of each chaos faction.
>>96712204force org desperately needs to come back and torneyfags and normies need to stop crying for once in a century. however, they absolutely need to make basic infantry more appealing than just running a tax unit. I'd rather they be so cheap they enter spam territory only for force org to limit them instead
>>96719093I mean objective play is one of the ways you make boots more appealing but whenever you say that somebody gets asspained over it.I honestly think the best way to get people to run troops/battleline is to undercost them or discount them in numbers; but I don't think they'll do that.I think if they're sticking with the detachment system as well more detachments should give units battleline status or discounts; though that might just be me being salty over incursion rules benching one of my Stealth Battlesuit Teams.
>>96712796as bulky as they are, why does every simpleton on the internet think that if armour covers leg joints from the front that they suddenly don't have them? it feels like the same tired complaining from tourists who genuinely think castraferrum dreadnaughts don't have knees
>>96719137The problem with the trashcan legs is that even if there's adequate articulation, if they're straight he's locked his legs the fuck out like he's drunk as fuck and trying not to tip over.It just doesn't look good. You need to give the pose a little bend. The old school dreads kinda worked because being hobbling-murder coffins was just the vibe, but when you're expected to believe there are human knees in giant metal jeans, tube-legs are fucking bad.
>>96715987You think that they ride the Rape Horse or the Horse rides them?
>>96715174.t Hama Druz
>>96713504We Daedra yet?
>bought CP, Lucius and fulgrmWhat else do I buy
